HomeMy WebLinkAboutMN-DAC-2014-10-01DISABILITY ADVISORY COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS
CITY OF ITHACA, NEW YORK
Regular Meeting 12:15 p.m. October 1, 2014
PRESENT:
DAC Chair – Roberts
DAC Members:
David McElrath
Amy Scott
Andrew Rappaport
Jody Scriber
Information Management Specialist – Myers
Sidewalk Program Manager - Hathaway
Alderperson/Liaison – Brock
EXCUSED:
DAC Vice Chair - Gizewski
DAC Members: Anderson, Sember-Chase,
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Approval of the June 4 and August 6, 2014 Disability Advisory Council Meeting
Minutes:
There was a consensus among those members present to approve the above minutes
for placement on the website – since there was no quorum.
DISCUSSION:
Preparation for November presentations of survey results to Board of Public
Works City Administration Committee; and the Planning and Development Board;
preparation for presentation to Common Council in December:
Discussion followed on the floor regarding accommodations for people at public
meetings, as expressed in the survey responses. DAC Member Scott asked whether
visually impaired people who attend meetings at City Hall let City staff know ahead of
time; how are materials made available to them? Chair Roberts responded that it is the
public’s responsibility to let City staff know ahead of time. The same is true for people
requiring sign language interpreters. For people who are hard of hearing, it is becoming
more of an expectation that there will be standard listening systems available. For City
meetings, committee members need to make sure to use and speak into the
microphones. Common Council Chambers does not have a listening system, he has
talked with City Clerk Holcomb about this, but the cost is high for that type of system. In
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addition, there are so many different kinds of hearing aids and competitors that having a
standard listening system to hook into is tricky. However, in general there should be a
listening system available at all city meetings - especially as the population ages.
Chair Roberts asked that any additional suggestions to include in the presentations be
forwarded to him by late October. He thinks that, at this point, the DAC is all set; it will
be good is to have actual numbers and statistics from the survey to present to the
committees. He further noted that he does not feel that the DAC is at a point to say
what these recommendations will cost to implement.
Update on Sidewalk Program – Sidewalk Program Manager Hathaway:
Mr. Hathaway explained that he wanted to talk with the DAC regarding some general
issues and newer developments regarding the new sidewalk program.
The first concerns a sidewalk location near the Ithaca Ballet school near the Greater
Ithaca Activities Center (GIAC) and Esty and Plain Streets. The problem is a couple of
sidewalks with joints out of level that are presenting accessibility barriers to pedestrians
and people in wheelchairs. He is trying to think what could be done in these situations,
where it’s just the joint out of level and the rest of the sidewalk is alright. The cost to
replace the entire concrete slab is expensive and it doesn’t make sense to just replace
one slab. He has located a firm that does concrete cutting, and the work complies with
ADA standards. That means that they are able to come in and cut across the joint that
is out of level to level it. The cost is about $20 per linear foot. For example, a sidewalk
with a 1" displacement that is 1' long will cost about $100.00 to repair; whereas, to
replace the entire slab of concrete it would be 3 or 4 times that amount. He is excited
about the prospect of the amount of sidewalk joint repair work that might be able to be
completed in a short amount of time, and at a relatively low cost. He has checked the
contractor’s references, and they have come back very positive.
Alderperson Brock questioned why City crews, who used to just grind these types of
sidewalk problems, couldn’t be utilized in these instances. Mr. Hathaway responded
that the City crews are on such a back log (several months behind) and the fact that the
number of these types of issues in sidewalks are starting to accumulate that he would
rather address the problems sooner rather than later.
Mr. Hathaway stated that the Ithaca Ballet school sidewalk joint problem is so significant
that he is not sure that just grinding would work. In addition, the advantage to cutting
means that the sidewalk is left with a clean surface; grinding can only occur on rainy
days because of the dust, and by cutting the concrete slab the work can be done pretty
efficiently any time.
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Chair Roberts responded that this is something to explore but can't be done with all
problems. Although, as a stop gap solution he would, personally, be thrilled. Some of
these joint deformities are significant and have been in place for at least 20 years.
Alderperson Brock questioned the long term cost benefit as far as spending $100 to
shave off a joint to help it become aligned that would then cause that sidewalk to crack
and need replacement sooner rather than just replacing it to begin with. She also
realizes the need to address the back-log of these types of issues too.
Mr. Hathaway responded that he has read studies from this particular contractor’s work
8-9 years after shaving off the surface to align the joints and the sidewalks have held up
well. They have not had problems with the sidewalk cracking or not holding up. He
stated that the City needs to address the back-log and create safer conditions for
people on sidewalks. This, by no means, will even replace the need to completely
replace sidewalks where needed.
DAC Member Rappaport stated that if this work could improve 50 or so sidewalks rather
than none, it is well worth it. Chair Roberts concurred stating that because there has
been such little attention paid to joints out of level that anything to address the issue is a
big improvement and needs to be done, as in some areas the joint out of alignment is
huge.
Mr. Hathaway stated that there is a limit – any joint more than 2" out of alignment would
not be done and requires replacement. He further stated that is the contractor’s policy
as well. He is also requiring replaced sidewalks to include mesh to help them last
longer. He further stated that, in general, he is looking towards the future and the best
ways to interact with the DAC for input and feedback on the sidewalk program. He
noted that there are certainly different ways to approach the work, and that maybe the
most important sidewalk work schedule should be established in an effort to then help
determine the locations with the highest priority to help the program be more efficient.
Alderperson Brock wondered if there wasn’t a guideline already in place with this
information. Mr. Hathaway responded that the sidewalk program work has historically
been based off of complaints. He would very much like to work closely with and talk to
the DAC to make the sidewalk program work better.
DAC Member Rappaport suggested looking at one sidewalk district at a time. Perhaps
with GIS mapping of each district, that then could be combined with locations of
complaints as an overlay, as well as the council members that belong to that district to
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meet and review district by district. In addition, complaints could be reviewed and
weighed against pedestrian traffic.
Alderperson Brock stated that she feels complaints are kind of misleading, and would
prefer if there were a rule of thumb that could be followed. For example, the proximity
of the sidewalk to bus stop, school, business, park etc. Chair Roberts stated that he
opposes setting priorities; however, if Mr. Hathaway thinks that setting priorities will
drive the sidewalk program and get things done then he would be open to it - especially
in the way described by DAC Member Rappaport.
Chair Roberts stated that he would like to go with Transportation Aid Johnson and Mr.
Hathaway when they traverse city sidewalks in a wheelchair.
DAC Member Scriber stated that it would also be helpful to look at areas that people are
likely to visit in the City such as Family Medicine, Lifelong, the Library, etc. since there is
so much pedestrian movement in those areas, which will only increase in the future as
the population ages.
Mr. Hathaway reported that he is also trying to reach out to other municipalities who
have successful sidewalk programs such as the City of San Francisco to see how they
respond to these various types of sidewalk issues, and in a different climate. The City of
San Francisco has a great sidewalk program; he needs to learn more and follow-up with
them. He noted that when he was speaking to staff in San Francisco they told him that a
group from West Virginia was flying out for training with them on how they repair and
maintain curb ramps. He is also trying to speak with staff from other similar cities that
have gone ahead with various types of sidewalk programs to get ideas, and plans so as
to not recreate the wheel here unnecessarily.
DAC Member Rappaport noted that if the sidewalk program were closer to completion
that he might disagree with the need to set priorities, but considering how far behind it is
they have to be addressed. Alderperson Brock concurred, that the City’s sidewalk
needs are so great, the turn around rate so slow that anything that can be done will
make it better. She further stated that Mr. Hathaway is doing a great job interacting with
people here who have been dealing with the sidewalk issues for years and years. Chair
Roberts stated that whatever will help move the program along and get the work done
he wants to support.
Mr. Hathaway stated that as he goes through this process he would like to share with
the DAC and get feedback because they are a great resource and he values their input.
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He then shared some pictures of a sidewalk curb at the intersection of Wood and Fair
Streets. He is hoping that along with sidewalk work that work can also be done to
address some issues at curb ramps. He is running into a few constraints involving
catch basins and in some cases utility poles. At these types of intersections he would
like to improve the drainage and make upgrades to the ramp that is ADA compliant.
Some of this work is beyond what he can do now, and he is discussing with City crews
what he would like to do at the intersection. The larger issue to study here, after this
construction season, is where is the best place to cross Wood Street because of utility
constraints and no receiving ramp down the block, he is not sure what should be done.
He feels that until he knows that, it would be more efficient and safe to remove the
ramp, replace it with grass, and come back to do the work the right way later on. This
would allow him time to have someone evaluate it and provide recommendations.
Discussion followed on the floor regarding what should be done at this intersection. It
doesn't make sense to have ramps on both sides of the street since one would serve
just as well, and the fact that this is a weird intersection. Chair Roberts stated that he
hates to take away the ramp, but if we're committed to a design solution later, maybe it
would make sense. He does not like the idea of a mid-block crossing either.
Mr. Hathaway stated that he contacted the US Access Board to ask them about the
curb ramp to see if there was one on one side should, by default, there be one on other
side. Their answer was no; the curb ramp is for accessibility to the street not for a
crosswalk.
The DAC expressed their support for Mr. Hathaway’s recommendation, at this
intersection, to remove the ramp and put in grass until a solution is found.
Mr. Hathaway thanked the DAC for their time, and the opportunity for him to share some
concerns and provide information on the sidewalk program to them..
Updates:
Public Meeting – Ithaca Festival 2015:
Chair Roberts reported that there would be a public meeting on October 6, 2014 at 7:00
p.m. at the Tompkins County Library regarding the 2015 Ithaca Festival. He stated that
Ithaca Festival Board members would be available for questions/concerns the public
might have. He noted that it would be nice if a member from the DAC could attend the
meeting particularly related to accessibility concerns and sign language interpreters –
especially for performance venues. He stated that some of the larger local festivals will
need to start building into their budgets accommodations for accessibility for everyone
to participate in the festival.
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Public Service Announcements (PSA)’s:
Chair Roberts asked for suggestions for the next PSA; he thought that one regarding
the fact that vehicles should not park across the sidewalk would be a good one. He
stated that a lot of people identified that as a problem on the survey. He noted that the
standard PSA’s regarding the removal of snow and ice will be used as well. He will talk
with City Clerk Holcomb regarding developing additional PSA’s including the one noted
above.
Suggestion from Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Council (BPAC):
1. Chair Roberts reported that the Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Council e-mailed him a
proposed resolution that they support regarding the intersection at North Aurora and
East Martin Luther Jr./State Street. They would like the DAC to review and discuss it,
and provide their support as well. The resolution recommends that the stop signs in
place there now (as a result of the recent incident at Simeon’s where a tractor trailer lost
control and crashed into Simeons resulting in a fatality) be kept rather than reinstalling
the traffic signal. Chair Roberts noted that there would not be enough time to discuss
this today, and wanted DAC members, if they had an opinion on the proposal, to
provide input to the BPAC regarding what they would support at the intersection.
DAC Member Rappaport responded that he would be interested in Transportation
Engineer Logue’s recommendation for this idea. Chair Roberts stated that he imagines
there will be some time for the DAC to provide either its support or opposition to
proposal, so he will get in touch with Mr. Logue for his input. It was noted that right now
traffic backs up Route 96B because the traffic signal had better timing to keep traffic
moving than the stop signs currently do. Pedestrian safety is a factor as well.
2. BPAC Chair, Daniel Keough, also brought to Chair Roberts attention that CTB on
Aurora Street and Viva Tacqueria on East Martin Luther King, Jr./State Street
continually have their outdoor dining tables and chairs blocking the sidewalk making it
difficult for pedestrians and persons in wheelchairs or with strollers to navigate the
sidewalk. Mr. Keough also has concerns regarding the way the Hilton Garden Inn
entrance way makes navigating the sidewalk difficult as well.
3. DAC Liaison to BPAC – Chair Roberts stated that DAC Member McElrath is no
longer able to continue as the liaison. He asked if any other DAC Member might be
interested in fulfilling this liaison role.
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Request to BPW – Residential Parking Permit – Hardship Appeal:
Chair Roberts reported that at a recent Board of Public Works meeting there was a
discussion of a request to allow someone who was not eligible for a parking permit
because of the zoning of the house they are renting to obtain a residential parking
permit due to a medical condition. The issue that concerns him is that the letter
detailing the medical condition of the applicant was included in the Board’s agenda
packet as well as distributed to the public via the website. Chair Roberts stated that he
wrote to Transportation Engineer Logue regarding the DAC’s opinion that there should
be a policy to protect personal medical information, after he saw this information in the
agenda packet. Chair Roberts further noted that requests of this nature should be able
to be handled administratively in an effort to protect personal privacy.
DAC Survey Presentations – Continued (See Attached Detailed Presentation
Information):
Chair Roberts reported that work is underway in preparation for November
presentations of survey results to the Board of Public Works, the City Administration
Committee, and the Planning and Development Board. A presentation will be made to
Common Council at their December 3, 2014 meeting. Chair Roberts described the
format the presentations will follow, and noted that the materials used at the
presentations will be provided to DAC members prior to these meetings. He further
noted that DAC Member Sember-Chase developed a list of responses that might be
useful to speak to specific committees about. The presentations will highlight and focus
on recommendations from the DAC. Chair Roberts requested that DAC members let he
or DAC Member Sember-Chase know if they see something else that should be brought
to a particular committee’s attention. Chair Roberts will do the presentation at the
Board of Public Works Meeting (11/24/14), DAC Member Sember-Chase will do the
presentation at the City Administration Committee (11/19/14), and DAC Member Scott
will do the presentation at the Planning and Development Board meeting (11/25/14).
Chair Roberts encouraged DAC Members to attend the meetings, if they're able. Chair
Roberts further stated that he will provide a report to Common Council for their
information on the work of the DAC, in general, during the past year. That will not be
part of the presentation.
Alderperson Brock suggested that the background of DAC be explained to Common
Council members that includes information on what the role of the council is, current
members, any vacancies, etc. and then do the presentation. This additional
background information will be helpful to new Common Council members and those
watching the meeting on television. These meetings will also be a great opportunity for
some public relations outreach, as the City Administration and Common Council
meetings will be televised. She further noted that they should explain to public what the
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DAC recommends regarding accessibility needs for the general public (i.e. for
board/committee/council members to speak into their micro-phones, the use of large
print agendas, full access to meetings, how important it is for snow and ice to be
removed consistently from all sidewalks and curb ramps, and perhaps the creation of a
"adopt a ramp" program for the clearing of snow and ice from sidewalks and ramps. In
addition, not everybody understands accessibility terms so explaining what some of the
terms mean would be very helpful to the public.
Chair Roberts stated that the deadline to submit ideas or suggestions to him for the
November presentations would be October 31st.
Adjournment:
The meeting adjourned at 1:40 p.m.
Sarah L. Myers Larry Roberts
Information Management Spec. Chair, DAC
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Which Challenges & Recommendations based on DAC Survey Feedback to
mention to each group:
For BPW (Larry prepares for upcoming BPW meeting):
Challenges for pwd responders cited:
81% cited Broken/missing sidewalks
Nearly 60% cited poor snow and ice removal
14.5% cited no audible cross walk signals.
30% cited cars or other vehicles blocking/parked across sidewalks
Nearly 50% cited trees and bushes obstructing pathways, sidewalks, or
crosswalks.
Trends seen among Open ended comments included:
o crosswalk pedestrian time far too short or that they display “walk” when
drivers still have green light to go.
o manmade obstructions on sidewalks, such as tables and chairs near
street/trees on curbs, providing little walking space between.
Recommendations/Suggestions:
FOCUS ON SNOW AND ICE REMOVAL/MAINTENANCE: City needs to
prioritize this more. One person suggested that City keep a registry of
community members/volunteers who can shovel or who city can hire to do snow
removal, such as for elderly and disabled people.
FIX BROKEN SIDEWALKS AND CURB CUTS: this included fixing other
barriers that exist, but primary emphasis was on sidewalks.
IMPROVE CROSS WALKS: install audible cross walks, more time for
pedestrians, and clear messages to pedestrians and drivers.
INVOLVE PWDS IN PLANNING: A few people emphasized the need for
incorporating accessibility improvements during construction and renovations
and that pwds should be sought out/consulted during the planning and review
phases.
For Planning (Amy prepares, for meeting on September 10th):
Challenges for pwd responders cited:
46% cited doors too heavy to open, or not having automatic door openers
Open ended comments cited lack of accessible parking options and/or
accessible parking spaces being taken by others without disabilities, including
city employees/offices.
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Recommendations:
INSTALL AUTOMATIC DOOR OPENERS: at all public facilities.
INCREASE ACCESSIBLE PARKING OPTIONS: Increase both the number as
well as the location so that closer to building entrances and path of travel.
INVOLVE PWDS IN PLANNING: A few people emphasized the need for
incorporating accessibility improvements during construction and renovations
and that pwds should be sought out/consulted during the planning and review
phases.
For City Administration (Erin prepares for meeting on Sept. 17th):
Challenges for pwd responders cited:
Nearly 60% cited poor snow and ice removal
Nearly 3% said there was need for more effective communication methods to be
provided via city website, while over 10% cited this need to be more present at
city meetings.
30% cited cars or other vehicles blocking/parked across sidewalks
Nearly 50% cited trees and bushes obstructing pathways, sidewalks, or
crosswalks.
Trends seen in open ended comments were:
o lack of accessible parking options and/or accessible parking spaces being
taken by others without disabilities, including city employees/offices.
o Other people, including city employees, lacking awareness, education, or
appropriate attitude toward pwds and their needs.
o More comments re/ manmade obstructions on sidewalks, such as tables
and chairs near street/trees on curbs, providing little walking space
between.
Recommendations:
ENFORCEMENT AND EDUCATION: a majority of responders cited the need for
the City and Police to hold property and business owners responsible (such as
through issuing fines) for keeping their sidewalks clear of obstructions and
snow/ice; ticketing people who violate accessible parking rules; install signage re/
where parking is restricted so as to not block accessible spaces or entrances;
educating TCAT drivers more about driving slower; educating everyone more
about disability issues and needs; and including information on city website about
how to report problems like this as well as how to get a hold of the DAC.
FOCUS ON SNOW AND ICE REMOVAL/MAINTENANCE: City needs to
prioritize this more. One person suggested that City keep a registry of
community members/volunteers who can shovel or who city can hire to do snow
removal, such as for elderly and disabled people.
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FIX BROKEN SIDEWALKS AND CURB CUTS: this included fixing other
barriers that exist, but primary emphasis was on sidewalks.
IMPROVE COMMUNICATION AT CITY MEETINGS: provide priority seating for
people with visual/hearing disabilities; given information in multiple formats, etc.
INVOLVE PWDS IN PLANNING: A few people emphasized the need for
incorporating accessibility improvements during construction and renovations
and that pwds should be sought out/consulted during the planning and review
phases.