HomeMy WebLinkAbout2016-10-26 PAB Final Minutes1
PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD 2
Wednesday, October 26, 2016 3
SCOTT HEYMAN CONFERENCE ROOM 4
125 East Court Street 5
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MEETING MINUTES 7
Members Attending: 8
Name Representation
Martha Robertson P Planning Committee
Monika Roth P Agriculture
Kathy Schlather P Human Services
Rob Steuteville A Built Environment Design
Andy Zepp E Land Pres/Public Land Mgmt
Dooley Kiefer P Associate Member
Others Present
Ed Marx P Commissioner of Planning
Megan McDonald P Senior Planner
Kristin McCarthy P Administrative Assistant
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Call to Order & Changes to the Agenda – Chair David Kay called the meeting to order at 9:07 AM. There 12
were no changes to the agenda. 13
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Approval of Minutes – Approval of the minutes was delayed as not enough voting members had arrived yet 15
to make a quorum. 16
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Housing Needs Assessment & Strategy Discussion 18
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Megan McDonald led a discussion on the Housing Needs Assessment completed by Tompkins County and 20
provided members with a handout summarizing the study’s findings and possible strategies for moving 21
forward. With the Housing Summit coming up in late November, the hope is that the PAB can help identify 22
some possible targets for the Housing Strategy to get feedback on before presenting them to the public. She 23
informed members that the Planning Department has also been having initial discussions with other groups to 24
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Megan went through housing needs first, directing members to reference the summary table at the top of the 27
handout. In particular she emphasized the county’s existing housing deficit, which presumably may continue 28
to build over the next 10 years when factoring in projected job growth in the area. She added, however, that 29
though some housing units fall short in numbers, there is an excess of other types, so figures may adjust in 30
the future. Proximity to jobs and transportation was also a critical factor among those surveyed and will be 31
an important consideration in deciding where those units are located. 32
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Megan also pointed out the model is designed so that figures can be added or changed in the spreadsheet as 34
needed. Given the complexity of the Housing Needs Assessment itself, the discussion was also intricate and 35
members touched on various areas of concern. Below are some of the findings Megan and Ed brought to the 36
board’s attention as well as the questions and comments that arose during the members’ conversation: 37
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•Good response from in-commuters, with more than 50% interested in moving into town if they can39
afford it. However, 90% of those respondents are homeowners and unlikely to move.40
Name Representation
Martha Armstrong P Economic Development
Todd Bittner E Natural Environment
Joe Bowes P Housing
Sue Cosentini E Business
Fernando de Aragón E Transportation
John Gutenberger A Education
Dave Herrick P Facilities/Infrastructure
Ruth Hopkins E At-Large
Rod Howe P Historical/Cultural Resources
David Kay P Local Planning (urban)
Darby Kiley P Local Planning (non-urban)
Gay Nicholson P At-Large
•Survey results indicate that walkability is strongly favored by respondents, but new single family 41
homes are being built in areas not conducive to foot traffic.42
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Lots of demand in Ithaca City for single family homes in the $150,000 - $200,000 price range but no 44
supply. There is also a huge deficit in two-bedroom apartments. 45
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Have to keep in mind that the risk is higher and the profit/margin lower for developers and 47
banks when they take on low-income housing projects. In addition the cost of building is 48
higher than the price of housing most people can afford to buy. One idea is to target 49
construction cost factors that can be potentially lowered to alleviate some of the financial 50
burden on developers. 51
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•Kathy: Breaking things down by different groups and numbers makes it more accessible to53
audience. Help people understand what you can realistically get, say, for $200,000-250,000.54
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•Gay: Explore in-field housing options, such as tiny houses, converted shipping containers, and other56
structures built on existing house plots.57
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•Martha R.: What’s the cost differential between Ithaca & Cortland housing? Why so much harder59
and expensive to build here? David K: What are the implications of these new numbers policywise?60
Is there a feasibile politically acceptable response? Martha R:. We can’t denigrate big developers.61
County can raise the profile & look at what’s the nature of change our community will accept?62
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•Dave: Where are the college & university in partnering with community on housing needs? Is there64
any way to get the schools to improve on-campus housing? Cornell plans to add 500 new beds, but it65
wouldn’t be completed until at least six years out. The administration there recognizes the need but66
feels constrained financially. We as a community, however, can encourage them not to increase67
enrollment without also increasing the number of beds needed for the new students.68
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•Gay: Her sense is that the market will address the needs of students and higher-income70
housing. She would prefer that policymakers focus on growing affordable housing for the71
community’s low-income residents. Ed: Areas such as Dryden, Jacksonville, and Varna72
have the potential to become walkable communities with middle-income housing and access73
to public transport.74
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•David K. – Access to affordable housing and reliable public transportation need to be a package deal.76
Ed: TCAT needs to commit resources, too.77
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•Ed: County hopes to continue monitoring supply and demand going forward. There has been some79
pushback from the Landlords Association, with many members worried about vacancy rates.80
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•Gay: What does Cornell pay into the Tompkins County Housing Development Fund? Who else pays84
into it? What leverage is there for negotiating with Cornell to pay more? Why doesn’t the Tompkins85
County Department of Social Services inspect housing before awarding vouchers? There is no policy86
in place to force improvements to those properties. Kathy – need push to have minimum standards87
statewide. Martha R – it’s not enough $ for landlords. Ed – HUD vouchers have limits but88
municipalities can increase building codes. Martha – housing funds (Cornell pays in $200,000). Not89
enough applicants for housing fund.90
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•Ed: The community needs a diversity of housing options. 95
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•Darby Kiley: Most in-commuters traveling from Seneca County and elsewhere outside Tompkins97
County want to continue to live in rural communities. However, to accommodate an influx of new98
residents, places such as Ulysses will require a huge investment in infrastructure in areas like water99
and sewage.100
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•Rod Howe: Exciting possibilities exist for new construction in South Hill thanks to new form-based102
zoning; he is still waiting to hear about the East Hill area. He asked Ed if he had thoughts on how103
this area could tie into the Housing Strategy or if it is still too amorphous. According to Ed, they will104
be trying to show the potential for 10-year development in these areas: South Hill, East Hill Plaza,105
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Approval of Minutes 110
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With a quorum now present, Martha Robertson moved to approve the minutes from the September 28th 112
meeting, and Martha Armstrong seconded the motion. The board approved the minutes unanimously. 113
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Commissioner’s Report – Ed Marx reported the following: 116
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In regards to the Energy Focus Area study, good progress has been made in looking at the capacity to meet 118
gas and electric needs in areas marked for development. Consultant has been able to quantify 10-year 119
demand projections in these targeted areas and has been working with NYSEG engineers on this study. So 120
far they’ve found all the areas have the capacity for gas and electric except the one around the airport, which 121
as was previously known faces gas constraints. Rectifying that deficit should be the focus of their efforts 122
over the next 10 years. 123
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They’ve received final reports on the NYS Department of Transportation’s willingness to move its site from 125
the waterfront to the airport area. At this point, there is a path but no timeline set for making this happen. 126
However, the new DOT regional director is engaged and willing to work on it. 127
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Work continues with the towns on the South Hill Recreation Way extension project. An open house is 129
tentatively scheduled for November 15 to update the public on the efforts being made to extend the trail to 130
Brooktondale. 131
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The Conservation Reserve Funding, which PAB previously approved, was approved by PDEQ, and will go 133
to Legislature at next meeting. The Legislature approved the resolution supporting the Town of Dryden’s 134
application to extend the East Hill Recreation Way trail out toward Route 13 through Varna. 135
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Ed, Martha A., and Katie Borgella went to the Upstate American Planning Association conference in late 138
September, where they presented on the Energy and Economic Development Task Force Energy Roadmap. 139
Ed found of particular interest the discussions he encountered regarding the challenges in urban re-140
development in Rochester and Buffalo. 141
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Set November/December Meeting Date 143
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Given the difficulty of reconciling everyone’s schedule toward the end of the year, the members 145
unanimously agreed to hold their last board meeting of 2016 on Wednesday, December 7. 146
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•Martha R.: More than 150 people have signed up to attend the Housing Summit without any press150
releases or other publicity being used to reach the public. The event is slated to take place at The151
Space @ Greenstar, but organizers are searching for a venue that could accommodate more152
attendees. People can visit HousingTompkins.com to sign up to attend. Certain groups were targeted153
early on.154
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•Gay: The second “Seal the Cracks” campaign is under way for the Finger Lakes Climate Fund, and156
there is a new mobile-friendly website: www.fingerlakesclimatefund.org.157
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•Martha A.: The Finger Lakes Regional Prosperity Network, formerly known as the TCAD159
Foundation, rolled out its new name and image with a meeting in Watkins Glen. About 80 people160
from area counties (Tompkins, Chemung, Steuben) gathered to discuss how their organizations could161
collaborate regionally on issues facing their communities. A large portion of their talk focused on the162
proposed incubation/development of a regional food processing hub. Another topic of great concern163
was regional transportation, specifically the lack thereof.164
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Adjournment 169
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The meeting adjourned at 10:30 a.m. 171
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