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Village of Cayuga Heights Planning Board
Meeting #103
Monday, May 23, 2022
Marcham Hall – 7:00 pm
Minutes
Present: Planning Board Members Chair F. Cowett, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni, R. Segelken
Code Enforcement Officer B. Cross, Attorney R. Marcus, Clerk J. Walker, Deputy Clerk A.
Jacot, Alternate Member M. Johnston, Mayor Woodard
R. Varn, Starland Builders
Item 1 – Meeting called to order
• Chair F. Cowett opened the meeting at 7:05 pm.
• Chair F. Cowett stated that Board Member J. Leijonhufvud is unable to attend the
meeting, and Alternate M. Johnston is appointed a full voting member of the Board
for this meeting; R. Segelken and M. Johnston are attending the meeting remotely.
Item 2 – April 25, 2022 Minutes
• The Board reviewed the minutes of the April 25, 2022 meeting.
Motion: M. McMurry
Second: R. Segelken
RESOLUTION No. 348
APPROVING MINUTES OF APRIL 25, 2022
RESOLVED, that the written, reviewed and revised minutes of the April 25, 2022
meeting are hereby approved.
Aye votes – Chair F. Cowett, M. Johnston, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni, R. Segelken
Opposed – None
Item 3 – May 10, 2022 Minutes
• The Board reviewed the minutes of the May 10, 2022 meeting.
Motion: M. Johnston
Second: M. McMurry
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RESOLUTION No. 349
APPROVING MINUTES OF MAY 10, 2022
RESOLVED, that the written, reviewed and revised minutes of the May 10, 2022
meeting are hereby approved.
Aye votes – Chair F. Cowett, M. Johnston, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni.
Abstained – R. Segelken
Opposed – None
Item 4 – Public Comment
• No members of the public wished to speak.
Item 5 – Videoconferencing for Conduct of Meetings
• Chair F. Cowett stated that Attorney R. Marcus has advised the Planning Board to
consider a resolution authorizing the use of videoconferencing (i.e. Zoom) to conduct
Board meetings when Governor Hochul ends her executive order allowing for public
meetings to be conducted via videoconferencing; the resolution requires a quorum of
Board members to be physically present at the meeting location, such as Marcham
Hall or the Village firehouse, where members of the public can attend in person; it
also requires that, at meetings where public comment or participation is authorized,
members of the public must be able to participate in the meeting via videoconference
in real time; to permit consideration of this resolution, the Board passed a resolution
at its May 10, 2022 meeting scheduling a public hearing for this meeting to hear
public comments.
• The public hearing commenced at 7:09 pm.
• No members of the public wished to speak.
Motion: M. McMurry
Second: E. Quaroni
RESOLUTION No. 350
TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
RESOLVED, that the public hearing regarding the use of videoconferencing for the conduct
of Planning Board meetings residence be closed.
Aye votes – Chair F. Cowett, M. Johnston, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni, R. Segelken
Opposed – None
• The public hearing closed at 7:10 pm.
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Motion: M. Johnston
Second: M. McMurry
RESOLUTION No. 351
AUTHORIZING THE USE OF VIDEOCONFERENCING FOR THE CONDUCT OF
PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS
WHEREAS, as of April 9, 2022, the previous videoconferencing provisions found in Public
Officers Law § 103(c) were removed, and public bodies wishing to conduct meetings via
videoconference must comply with the new requirements of Public Officers Law § 103‐a;
and
WHEREAS, Public Officers Law § 103‐a(2) authorizes public bodies to conduct meetings
using videoconference technology so long as a quorum of the public body is physically
present at one or more of the locations where the public can also attend in person; and
WHEREAS, in order for public bodies to conduct meetings via videoconferencing, certain
requirements of Public Officers Law § 103‐a(2) must be satisfied; and
WHEREAS, among the requirements of Public Officers Law § 103‐a(2) is that the public
body must adopt a local law or a resolution after a public hearing authorizing the use of
videoconferencing for itself and its committees or subcommittees; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Village of Cayuga Heights desires to authorize the use
of videoconferencing for itself; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board has conducted a public hearing to hear comments on the use
of videoconferencing to conduct public meetings;
NOW, THEREFORE, be it resolved by the Planning Board of the Village of Cayuga Heights
as follows:
1. The Planning Board of the Village of Cayuga Heights is hereby authorized to conduct
meetings via videoconferencing in accordance with the requirements of Public
Officers Law § 103‐a(2), including, but not limited to:
A. A quorum of members of the Planning Board must be physically present at one of
the meeting locations at which the public can attend in person unless the member
is unable to be physically present due to extraordinary circumstances, which
include disability, illness, caregiving responsibilities, or any other significant or
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unexpected factor or event which precludes the member's physical attendance at
such meeting.
B. Except in the case of executive sessions conducted pursuant to Public Officers Law
§ 105, the Planning Board shall ensure that members of the Planning Board can be
heard, seen, and identified while the meeting is being conducted, including but
not limited to any motions, proposals, resolutions, and any other matter formally
discussed or voted upon.
C. The minutes of meetings involving videoconferencing must include which, if any,
members participated remotely and must be made available to the public pursuant
to Public Officers Law § 106.
D. The public notice for the meeting must (i) inform the public (a) that
videoconferencing will be used, (b) where they can view and/or participate in
such meeting, and (c) where required documents and records will be posted or
available, and (ii) identify the physical location(s) where members of the Planning
Board will be participating in the meeting and where the public can attend the
meeting in person.
E. The Planning Board must record each meeting that uses videoconferencing and
such recordings must be posted or linked to on the public body’s website within
five business days of the meeting. The recordings must remain available for a
minimum of five years thereafter, and recordings must be transcribed upon
request.
F. At meetings where public comment or participation is authorized, members of the
public must be able to participate in the proceedings via videoconference in real
time.
G. If the Planning Board broadcasts its meetings or conducts its meetings via
videoconference, it must use technology that permits members of the public with
disabilities to access the video in a manner consistent with the 1990 Americans
with Disabilities Act (ADA).
Aye votes – Chair F. Cowett, M. Johnston, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni, R. Segelken
Opposed – None
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Item 6 – Site Plan Review – 211 North Sunset Drive
• Chair F. Cowett stated that the proposed project is a two story, single family residence
with an attached garage to be constructed on a vacant lot at 211 North Sunset Drive;
the lot was created by subdividing a larger vacant lot into two lots; the subdivision
was approved by the Planning Board in August 2018; in May 2020, the Planning
Board approved construction of a single family residence at the northernmost of the
two lots at 213 North Sunset Drive; the lot at 211 North Sunset Drive was deemed by
the Planning Board in 2018 to be compliant with the Village’s Zoning Law for average
minimum width and depth; the lot is bisected by a private sanitary sewer lateral
which connects via a private easement agreement from a residence at 600 Cayuga
Heights Road to a Village sewer main on North Sunset Drive; a site plan provided by
the applicant shows that the proposed residence will be located on the lot’s northern
portion and will avoid any disturbance of this sewer lateral.
• Chair F. Cowett asked Code Enforcement Officer B. Cross if the proposed project will
be able to connect to public potable water and public wastewater treatment facilities.
• Code Enforcement Officer B. Cross replied that the project will be able to connect to
a public potable water main on North Sunset Drive; the project could connect to the
Village sewer main on North Sunset Drive; however, it would mean less work for
DPW if the project could connect to the private sanitary sewer lateral instead and he
has asked the applicant to explore whether this would be feasible or if it would be
prohibited by the easement agreement.
• R. Varn, Starland Builders, stated that the sewer easement has created problems with
prospective buyers; it limits potential locations for a residence; the site plan shows the
residence, garage, and driveway confined to the front portion of the northern portion
of the lot; the client prefers a straight driveway leading in from North Sunset Drive
which means that the driveway grade will be on the steep side.
• Chair F. Cowett stated that the Village’s Zoning Law generally limits driveway grades
to 10%, but the Planning Board can approve driveways with grades up to 15%; based
on the garage location and topo lines from a previous survey, the driveway grade
appears close to, but less than 15%.
• R. Varn confirmed that the driveway grade will be less than 15% and may wind up
being closer to 10%.
• E. Quaroni stated that in the 2018 subdivision review the option of locating the
residence in the lot’s southern portion was explored; this option included a curving
driveway traversing the sewer easement with a grade of less than 10%.
• M. McMurry asked if the sewer easement prohibits the construction of a driveway
over the private sanitary sewer lateral.
• Attorney R. Marcus replied that he has not seen the terms of the sewer easement, but
such easements generally prohibit construction over them, at least in part due to the
cost of making future repairs to the sewer lateral.
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• M. Johnston asked if the sewer lateral has ever been accessed by Village DPW.
• Attorney R. Marcus replied that it is a private sewer easement and therefore Village
DPW would not have access to the sewer lateral.
• M. Johnston asked how stormwater runoff on the site will be directed to the retention
basin shown in the site plan to the southwest of the residence.
• R. Varn replied that footer drains and gutter drains will direct runoff to the basin via
pipes and swales.
• Code Enforcement Officer B. Cross stated that he will recommend that R. Varn install
a culvert pipe under the driveway which will direct runoff north of the driveway via
a swale within the property to the retention basin.
• Code Enforcement Officer B. Cross further stated that the treatment of stormwater
runoff associated with this project is a schematic concept at this point; R. Varn has
arranged for engineering support to deal more fully with stormwater management
prior to the next Board meeting; this support will include calculations on the quantity
and quality of the runoff; he will review these calculations and advise the Board about
stormwater management on site prior to the next Board meeting.
• M. McMurry asked about possible tree removals.
• R. Varn replied that trees will be removed to excavate and construct the residence,
garage, and driveway; there are no plans to remove trees on the southern side of the
sewer easement other than those that are dead and trees along the northern boundary
line will be preserved to serve as a vegetative buffer with the neighboring property.
• M. McMurry asked if the Board will receive more formal plans prior to its next
meeting.
• R. Varn replied that it will.
• Chair F. Cowett asked about the number of bedrooms in the residence.
• R. Varn replied that there will be four bedrooms and an upstairs TV room; it is a two
story house with a four car garage.
• M. Johnston asked about the energy package for the structure.
• R. Varn replied a decision has not been made whether the residence will employ a
geothermal heat pump or more conventional forced air heating and cooling; he is still
discussing with the client; a decision will be made prior to the Board’s next meeting.
• M. Johnston encouraged R. Varn to educate his client about energy saving options.
• Chair F. Cowett asked if the residence will have a basement.
• R. Varn replied that there will a crawl space, but not a basement.
• Chair F Cowett asked about architectural features and finishes.
• R. Varn replied that the residence will be modern in style with Hardie panel vertical
siding, stone columns, and casement windows with transoms.
• M. McMurry asked about roof materials.
• R. Varn replied that the roof material will be architectural shingles.
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Motion: E. Quaroni
Second: M. McMurry
RESOLUTION No. 352
TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED PROJECT AT 211 NORTH SUNSET DRIVE
FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board accepts the proposed project at 211 North Sunset Drive
for site plan review.
Aye votes – Chair F. Cowett, M. Johnston, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni, R. Segelken
Opposed – None
• The Board discussed the project in relation to the State Environmental Quality
Review Act (SEQRA) and whether to categorize the project as a Type I, Type II, or
Unlisted SEQRA action.
• Chair F. Cowett stated that this project involves the construction of a single-family
residence on an approved lot and includes provision of necessary utility connections;
therefore, under § 617.5.C.11 of New York Codes, Rules and Regulations, the project
shall be categorized as a Type II SEQRA action; the applicant will not need to
complete Part 1 of the SEQRA Short Environmental Assessment Form, nor will the
Planning Board need to complete Parts 2 and 3 of that form, but the Planning Board
will still consider environmental factors in making findings related to site plan
approval or disapproval.
Motion: R. Segelken
Second: M. Johnston
RESOLUTION No. 353
SEQRA REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AT
211 NORTH SUNSET DRIVE
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board declares itself lead agency for SEQRA review of the
project at 211 North Sunset Drive which the Board categorizes as a Type II action.
Aye votes – Chair F. Cowett, M. Johnston, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni, R. Segelken
Opposed – None
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Motion: M. Johnston
Second: E. Quaroni
RESOLUTION No. 354
TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED PROJECT AT
211 NORTH SUNSET DRIVE
RESOLVED, that a public hearing will be held on Monday, June 27, 2022 at 7:05 pm
regarding site plan review for the proposed project at 211 North Sunset Drive.
Aye votes – Chair F. Cowett, M. Johnston, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni, R. Segelken
Opposed – None
Item 7 – New Business
• Chair F. Cowett stated that the Village’s Board of Trustees (BOT) at its May 18th
meeting asked Code Enforcement Officer B. Cross to inform the RaNic golf club that
the Trustees have agreed to consider the creation at RaNic of a Planned Development
Zone (PDZ) which would allow the site to be improved with townhouses and a hotel;
the Trustees also asked Code Enforcement Officer B. Cross to inform the golf club
that the Trustees ha ve concerns about the scale and intensity of these improvements;
the Trustees expect RaNic representatives to attend the BOT’s June 15th meeting to
discuss the project further; in order for more than two Planning Board members to
attend this meeting, whether in person or via Zoom, the Planning Board needs to
consider a resolution scheduling a special joint meeting with the Board of Trustees at
the BOT’s June 15th meeting.
Motion: M. McMurry
Second: M. Johnston
RESOLUTION No. 355
TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE PLANNING BOARD
WITH THE VILLAGE’S BOARD OF TRUSTEES
AT MARCHAM HALL
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board schedule a special joint meeting with the Village’s
Board of Trustees at Marcham Hall on Wednesday June 15, 2022 at 7:05 pm.
Aye votes – Chair F. Cowett, M. Johnston, M. McMurry, E. Quaroni, R. Segelken
Opposed – None
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• Chair F. Cowett asked Planning Board members for their reactions to the presentation
made by the RaNic design team at the May 10th joint meeting with the Board of
Trustees at the golf club.
• M. Johnston asked whether a PDZ is really required for this project; the RaNic design
team stated at the May 10th meeting that they had considered locating the hotel in
the Town of Ithaca portion of the golf club rather than in the Cayuga Heights portion;
if the hotel and all townhouses are located in the Town of Ithaca and not in Cayuga
Heights, there would be no need for the Village to create a PDZ.
• Attorney R. Marcus replied that he would phrase M. Johnston’s last statement
somewhat differently, that there would be no need for the applicant to propose a
PDZ; the applicant needs to propose a PDZ, and the Village then considers whether
to approve the PDZ proposal, amend it, or disapprove it.
• M. Johnston questioned whether the Village should even want to consider approving
a PDZ when proposed by the applicant.
• M. McMurry replied that the Trustees, at their May 18th meeting, expressed interest
in entertaining a PDZ proposal.
• Attorney R. Marcus stated that the Trustees agreed to entertain a PDZ proposal which
would include townhouses and a hotel, but also expressed reservations about the scale
and intensity of these improvements as presented to date.
• M. McMurry stated that an advantage of a PDZ is that it allows flexibility in locating
improvements such as townhouses and a hotel; for example, the Trustees at their May
18th meeting expressed reservations about locating townhouses adjacent to Pleasant
Grove Road.
• M. Johnston stated agreement with not locating townhouses adjacent to Pleasant
Grove Road; an alternate location for the hotel might also be considered.
• E. Quaroni stated that the RaNic design team at the May 10th meeting did not
describe the benefits of the PDZ to the Village; their presentation focused almost
exclusively on the benefits of the PDZ to the golf club; their PDZ proposal should
describe more fully the PDZ’s benefits to the Village.
• M. Johnston agreed with E. Quaroni about the need to clarify the project’s benefits to
the Village; the hotel is of questionable benefit because it is not guaranteed of success,
particularly during the off-season, and could possibly fail; the townhouses might be a
different story; the demand for additional housing is more of a sure thing.
• E. Quaroni stated that price points given for the townhouses at the May 10th meeting
were between $500k and $600k; this is high end pricing and demand may be limited.
• M. Johnston agreed that townhouse price points matter; it would be instructive to
know how a hotel such as La Tourelle copes with the off-season.
• Attorney R. Marcus stated that the Board of Trustees, in considering a PDZ, could
require the applicant to provide a market analysis of the proposed hotel; there are
consultants who specialize in the hotel industry; the Trustees could require that a
study be conducted before proceeding further in this project.
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• M. Johnston stated that a hotel also entails a huge use of resources; the hotel seems
part of a grand vision which the applicant apparently wants to realize all at once; this
seems a risky strategy; phasing the project in stages might make better sense.
• Chair F. Cowett stated concern that the RaNic design team may have not consulted a
professional golf course management firm; such firms specialize in reviving courses in
decline and putting them on more sustainable financial footing; a hotel requires large
capital expenditure up front and then substantial overhead to operate; more emphasis
should instead maybe be given to the quality of the course; if the course doesn’t
measure up, people won’t want to come play it nor stay in the hotel.
• R. Segelken stated that it is not the responsibility of the Planning Board to ponder a
dubious business plan; the Board should instead ask the RaNic design team whether
there is a Plan B if the hotel does not pan out; it may also be that the hotel is a
developer’s bargaining chip, i.e. ask for a lot more and then downsize a bit.
• M. McMurry agreed with R. Segelken regarding the bargaining chip; in her legal
experience representing developers, it is a common strategy for a developer to ask for
more than the developer expects to receive, and then downsize as a concession so as
to obtain what is really wanted; she is also wary of marketing analyses provided by
developers since they are often biased.
• Attorney R. Marcus stated that any marketing analysis would be applicable to Board
of Trustees consideration of a PDZ proposal and not Planning Board site plan review;
if the Trustees approve a PDZ, the Planning Board would then need to judge whether
the project as proposed fits within the PDZ.
• M. McMurry asked whether the Planning Board can disapprove aspects of a PDZ in
site plan review once the PDZ is approved by the Board of Trustees.
• Attorney R. Marcus replied that the Planning Board cannot disapprove the PDZ once
approved by the Trustees, but it can disapprove the project site plan according to the
usual site plan criteria, e.g. parking, traffic, stormwater management, etc.
• Chair F. Cowett stated his concern that the Trustees may approve a PDZ for which
the Planning Board would then be unable to approve a site plan based on site plan
criteria; the RaNic design team so far has not provided sufficient details about the
project for the Trustees to make a well-informed decision about the PDZ.
• M. McMurry stated that the RaNic design team needs to state more specifically the
benefits to the Village associated with the project and the PDZ.
• Attorney R. Marcus stated that from the project’s start the RaNic design team should
have provided the Village with a bullet list of the project’s benefits to the Village; he
expects that, when the PDZ proposal is formally presented to the Village, the RaNic
design team will identify those parts of the Village’s comprehensive plan that they
believe are achieved by the PDZ and the project.
• E. Quaroni asked whether the golf club is on the Village sewer system or a private
septic system; the comment was made at the May 10th meeting that the clubhouse’s
septic system had failed and requires a half million dollars to fix.
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• Code Enforcement Officer B. Cross replied that he believes the comment regarding
the septic system was a slip of the tongue since the golf club is 100% on public water
and sewer; currently, the Village is carefully managing the number of sewage units
available to developers due to capacity issues related to inflow and infiltration (I & I)
at the Village’s wastewater treatment plant; this project will require additional sewage
units; no sewage units are available at this time and the RaNic design team is aware of
this fact; the expectation is that plant capacity will improve as the Village resolves its
I & I issues; as for the half million dollars needed to fix the septic system, he believes
this sum applies to more than sewage problems in the clubhouse.
• M. McMurry asked about expectations for the Board of Trustees’ June 15th meeting.
• Attorney R. Marcus replied that he expects the RaNic design team to present more
specific project plans and ideas, but doubts that it will be a formal PDZ proposal.
• The Board’s next regularly scheduled meeting is Monday, June 27, 2022 at 7:00 pm.
Item 8 – Adjourn
• Meeting adjourned at 8:40 pm.