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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes of the Board Meeting February 16, 2010.pdf 1 Minutes of the Board of Trustees February 16, 2010 Village of Cayuga Heights Meeting of the Board of Trustees Cayuga Heights Fire Station Present: Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Riesman and Szekely, Attorney Marcus, Treasurer Silber, Supt. Cross, Fire Supt. Tamborelle, Clerk Manning Absent: Trustee Andolina and Supron Others: see attached ************************************************************************* The Public Hearing on Local Law #1 of 2010, A Local Law establishing a moratorium on the enforcement of a portion of Section 9 of the Village of Cayuga Heights Zoning Ordinance was opened at 7:05 pm. Attorney Marcus gave a brief overview of this proposed local law. The Clerk stated for the record that 3 memos were received from residents – Richard Staples, Mary and Fred Widding and Diana Nathanielsz. Copies of the memos were available for the public. The Board then heard from the public. E. Mount – spoke for residents whose yards are too small for setbacks as currently set forth in the current zoning laws. Has proposed along with Sally Grubb a fence ordinance similar to that of Town of Ithaca. Mary Tabbachi – insanity rules in the Village of Cayuga Heights. She has never observed this community to be so divided. Property owners should be able to put fences up in their own yards. Opposes fencing ordinance. Rosemarie Parker – asked the question, “If you do support a fence ordinance, how does that affect the proposed local law?” Atty. Marcus answered that the fence ordinance as it stands now is quite simple. The Board has considered the possibility of changing the law and has been approached by a few residents to change the law. There are some non-complying fences in the Village and by passing this proposed law, the Village will hold off on enforcement while the Village looks at the possibility of changing the ordinance. Mark Eisner – has a non-compliant fence which has been on the property for 40-50 years. It is a 4 ft fence with netting above it. He doesn’t want to take it down. Guy Tabbachi – how does the Village define a fence? Sally Grubb – has proposed amendments for the current ordinance. For several years, Supt. Cross has been advised not to make the fence issue a priority. Imposing a moratorium is a temporary fix. The trustees need to agree on the definition of a fence. Katy Stein – when is Privilege of the Floor? Answered that it is after the Public Hearings. The Public Hearing was closed at 7:25 PM. The Public Hearing on Local Law #2 of 2010, A Local Law establishing that a zoning permit be obtained for any fence or wall was opened at 7:25 PM. Attorney Marcus gave a brief overview of this proposed local law stating that the current fence ordinance does not require a permit unless the fence is greater than 4 ft. high. This law change would require every fence get a zoning permit from Supt.Cross. If denied, the applicant would then apply to the ZBA. Anita Watkins – What is in compliance in absence of the law? The moratorium is just on the enforcement of the law, not the law itself. Mark Eisner – LL#2 refers to new fences, not existing. 2 Rosemarie Parker – How can the Village do this when it does not even have a definition of what a fence is? Supt. Cross answered that a requirement of a permit doesn’t change the rules, it doesn’t change the heights or change the setbacks. Trustee Riesman stated that the trustees are looking at fencing and different proposals received, and the Planning Board is now having discussions about fencing. Sally Grubb – Thinks making piecemeal changes to the fence ordinance is a mistake. It will only add to Supt. Cross’s workload. The Village needs to define what a fence is. This was already done with Cross. She urges the Board to start discussions now and move forward as quickly as possible. Guy Tabbachi – The first law makes sense, but the second doesn’t unless you define a fence. Elizabeth Mount – When is the Board going to vote on these local laws? Mark Eisner – Clarification needs to be also made about the repair/replacement of a part of a fence. Mayor Gilmore – One year ago he said the Village shouldn’t address fencing until deer remediation was underway, but now he recognizes that we need to review fencing now. Joe Cowan – New to the area. Scary that this is the first public hearing and the Board seems to be ready to vote on a new law. He would like to follow the current ordinance. Trustee Szekely – The moratorium provides the opportunity to get public comment and discussion. Public Hearing was closed at 7:40 PM. Open public hearing on proposed Local Law 3 of 2010 – A Local Law amending the section of the Village of Cayuga Heights zoning ordinance adding a Fitness Center to the list of permitted uses in the Village’s Commercial District was opened at 7:40 PM. Attorney Marcus presented that the zoning ordinance is sparse on this subject. A fitness center needs to be added to bring the ordinance up to date. Sally Grubb – Supports the change, but it is one more case of tinkering with the Zoning Ordinances – the whole ordinance needs an updated. She reminds the Board that the Planning Board, who will be looking at the Zoning Ordinance, was not elected but appointed. It is important to get the Villagers input on changes. Guy Tabbachi – Agrees with Sally. Thinks Walter Hensley would be in favor. Linda Bors – In the 60’s, there was a shoe store, hardware store, etc. at Community Corners. Having a fitness center is a sign of the times. Elizabeth Mount – Remembers those stores, too. Thinks of Community Corners as a place where we could have people congregate. A fitness center is a splendid idea. Public Hearing was closed at 7:45 PM. There were some comments from the public that the Board should not vote on the Local Laws as it was not stated on the agenda that a vote would take place. Atty. Marcus stated that an agenda is intended to be an outline or a guide. It is generally understood that if a Board conducts a Public Hearing, the Board may take action once the Public Hearing is closed. It is not common to have a separate entry on the agenda for this. The Meeting of the Board of Trustees was opened at 7:45 PM. Mayor Gilmore asked for a motion to approve the minutes of January 19. 3 Motion by Trustee Bors Seconded by Trustee Szekely Move to approve the minutes of January 19, 2010 as amended. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Riesman and Szekely Voted YES. The Mayor opened Privilege of the Floor. Guy Tabacchi – had a number of questions regarding gas drilling which he read. Atty. Marcus answered that the Village discontinued the practice of accepting drillwater right after the current Board found out about it. Allen VanDeMark – Commented on the Route 30 TCAT bus change routing the bus down The Northway. The bus passes Cayuga Heights Elementary School (CHES) 86 times/day. Back in 2007, TCAT said that this change down Northway from E. Upland was based on behalf of the Village’s request. The Board needs to look into it. TCAT’s original recommendation was to keep the route up Triphammer Road, but a change was made at the last minute to route to The Northway. Michelle Kiefer – At the last Mayoral election, TCAT was brought up. Both Jim Gilmore and Diana Riesman said that if the bus went by CHES, they would step in and take care of moving it. She encourages the Board to stand by their statements. Suzanne VanDeMark – Was surprised with the change in the route. There are significant traffic issues and is concerned about the congestion on The Parkway. Thanks to Trustee Szekely for attending the TCAT meeting held earlier in the week. Fred Wolf – Has enjoyed living in the area for the last 15 years and has never spoken to political issues, however public transportation is wanted and needed in VCH. TCAT chose Northway because it has a technical advantage but it does affect his family. Mr. Rassnick – Was involved 2 years ago when 150 letters were written to TCAT. There is an appearance of lack of transparency. TCAT says Supt. Cross agreed to the route two years ago. The Village needs to reply. Mindy Mindlin – This Board knew that TCAT was unresolved. She spoke to Trustee Riesman when the bus shelters were started. Aaron Wagner – The Board should get involved. This is not a good decision. He can’t get out of his driveway (on The Parkway) at peak times. Bus routes tend to be followed by car drivers. Rosemarie Parker – Regarding fencing, she really likes Sally Grubb’s fence proposal. The Village should take a long, hard look at it. Elaine Quaroni – Is the Board considering making a change to the fence law? Law #1 makes sense, Law #2 doesn’t. Supt. Cross said that the Village requires zoning permits for buildings and additions. To have consistency, the Village should regulate all fences. Katy Stein – respects the bus issues but wants to comment on the fencing issue. Allowing residents to erect fences that meet esthetic standards give residents some flexibility. It is far better to have a fence in your yard than to have sharpshooters in your neighborhood. Christine Lacey – Was denied a fence. She played by the rules and was denied. Her quality of life would be much improved by having a fence, but now it is not. Don’t move toward a moratorium, but make fencing rules that add to the quality of life. Look at the requests from residents independently with thoughtfulness. Elizabeth Mount – The ZBA is made up of preconceived notions – fencing is unclear. The purpose of the ZBA is to give variances. Requests need to be looked at in a new light. 4 James LaVeck – Over the last 18 months, both Jim Gilmore and Kate Supron have endorsed policies that restrict fencing which has created a climate of frustration and anger in the Village. Angie Baker – At the last SEQR meeting, the issue of a contingency plan if there was a human accident during deer remediation came up. The Privilege of the Floor was closed at 8:20 PM. Trustee Szekely read a statement (attached to these minutes) which was read by Trustee Supron at a TCAT meeting. Trustee Szekely then reported that she attended a TCAT meeting in February 2009 where she asked a TCAT representative what changes would be made in Cayuga Heights. At that time, bus route #30 was still operating on Triphammer Road. The question was asked, “What is the role of the Village in this?” Trustee Riesman said that TCAT sets the route on Village roads. The Village has no direct impact on their routes. Nancy Oltz said that the city buses go by a number of schools in Tompkins County. The turn onto The Northway is a better turn radius than the turn on Upland Road. Trustee Szekely said that the next TCAT meeting is scheduled for February 23 from 2:30 – 4:00 PM at the TCAT building on Willow Street. It is the Transit Development Meeting. Szekely will attend and will email the Board with a summary of the details of the meeting. Mayor Gilmore asked what is the solution to the issue. He understands the safety concerns of the residents and understands the structural issues of The Northway. Trustee Bors asked for the Police Chief’s additional information that the Chief was going to give the trustees. The Mayor said that he didn’t sense that there was any safety issues with the current bus situation. At this time, Mayor Gilmore introduced Martin Harms, Planning Board (PB) Chairman, who will give an overview of Planning Board activity and will attend meetings monthly to being the Board up to date. Chair Harms thanked the Board for this time and feels that it is useful to give monthly updates when appropriate. The Planning Board is now working thru the process of creating a Comprehensive Plan for the Village – the first ever. He wants to stress the enormous importance of Village input, and urged residents to go to the Planning Board website (a link on the Village website) to offer their input. This endeavor will take about a year to complete. There will be time for the public to give their opinion on issues. The PB is currently working with Prof. George Frantz of the Community and Regional Planning (CRP) class at Cornell. There was a lively fencing discussion at the last PB meeting which ended up being very productive. The CRP students have begun their data gathering which is useful to the students and will be very useful to the Board. The students will be conducting a phone survey during the last 2 weeks of March. Following that will be a public forum on Saturday, April 17 at Kendal from 9am – 4 pm. The public is welcome. There will be open and closing general sessions with breakout groups to look at different topics. Announcements about these activities will be in The Courier and on the Planning Board website. As was previously stated, at the last PB meeting, the PB opened up about the fencing issue. This is no small matter and there are a number of issues. There is a need for a revised ordinance without it taking forever. The topography of the individual lots leaves many complexities. The general agreement is that the Village has a rather unique natural environment. With the special character of the maturity of landscaping, fencing is a litmus test for the vision of the future. Harms urged the Board not to be too quick to generalize with fencing. Any solution will be imperfect and it behooves us to come up with a multi-faceted plan. There will be a special committee to look specifically at the fencing issue. *************************************************************************** 5 Report of the Fire Supt. – Report is on file. A new recruit class will begin on Saturday. The Fire Company yard sale is scheduled for 5/26 and 5/27 with collections the week before. The 2% contract has been signed. The Mayor asked about new assistant chiefs and what position the department would be in if the Chief left. Tamborelle gave an update on the personnel who would be next in line and explained the training that they go through. Though he has no immediate plans for leaving Cayuga Heights, if he did have to leave, he would be leaving the department in capable hands. *************************************************************************** Report of the Supt. of Public Works – Supt. Cross gave overview of an outstanding Change Order from C.O. Falter which is in dispute. Atty. Marcus contacted Falter and they haven’t responded. A bill is still outstanding for approximately $31,000. Cross would like approval to pay $26,600 of it with their regular payment so the disputed balance would be approximately $6000. Atty. Marcus suggests that the payment be sent with a cover letter explaining what amount is being paid and why. Motion by Mayor Gilmore Seconded by Trustee Donner Move to pass Resolution 66119 approving to pay C.O. Falter request #14 in the amount of $44,826.99 which includes an amount of Change Order #9 of $26,662.29. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Riesman and Szekely Voted YES. During the process of approving the last series of Change Orders, Matco Change Order 1-E was approved in the amount of $6,929 but they had never billed us. Now they have added to the amount of the $6582.55. Motion by Mayor Gilmore Seconded by Trustee Szekely Move to pass Resolution 66129 approving to pay Matco the amount of $6582.55 for Change Order 1-E. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Riesman and Szekely Voted YES. Aaron Wagner, who was in the audience, reported on a meeting he had with Brad Grainger, Brent Cross and Trustee Andolina. Mr. Wagner is satisfied that he has taken the necessary action and is working on a legal agreement with the school district that will enable him to keep the sewer pipe legally for an indefinite time. Supt. Cross has had considerable communication with the Town of Lansing to progress with the new Warren Road Sewer District. The Town will be looking for some action on this very soon. Cross suggested that we add to the SEQR meeting scheduled for February 24 an agenda item to discuss and approve the Warren Road Sewer District contract with the Town of Lansing. Treasurer Silber said that the Village should consider some intermediary step for the 6 Warren Road Sewer contract as the Village needs to be looking at a single form contract for all municipalities for sewer agreements. He reminded the Board that 6 months ago, the Village signed an MOU with the Town of Lansing to start this contract process. There was discussion about bringing in architectural review for Marcham Hall hopefully at the March board meeting. *************************************************************************** Report of the Mayor – Mayor Gilmore presented a new draft of the Tompkins County Council of Government Agreement for the Health Care Consortium for Board approval. Because of changes in the agreement previously signed, the Mayor needs to sign this new agreement; therefore, the Board needs to pass a resolution giving the Mayor approval to sign. Trustee Riesman asked to see the sample resolution by TCCOG, and the Mayor stated that he wrote his own. There was much discussion on the Health Care Consortium among the trustees. Treasurer Silber spoke on the financial ramifications of the Village joining the Consortium. Trustee Szekely asked again if the Mayor had the side by side comparisons of the proposed insurance for the Village, as she has been asking for this for at least a year now. The Mayor said that he had seen the ancillaries, but not the side by side report. Trustee Szekely asked if the Mayor was asking the Board to vote at this meeting on changing the retirees over to the Consortium insurance. The Mayor answered that he was asking for a resolution to approve the Village joining the consortium. The Village had already approved this, but since changes were made to the agreements, the Village had to vote again. In the future, the Board would vote to bring in the retirees and other employees into the Consortium. At this time, the Mayor presented his resolution. Motion by Trustee Donner Seconded by Trustee Bors Move to pass Resolution 66139 as follows: The Mayor of the Village of Cayuga Heights is hereby authorized to execute the TCCOG “Municipal Health Consortium Agreement dated 2/8/2010” and sign as finally amended by the Municipal Health Consortium and the New York State Insurance Department, NYSID. Before signing, the final NYSID & Consortium approved agreement will be reviewed and approved by the Village of Cayuga Heights Labor Relations Attorney. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner Voted YES. Trustees Riesman and Szekely Voted NO No action was taken on this vote as a majority of the full Board did not vote YES. Trustees Szekely and Riesman told Mayor Gilmore that they needed to see the current cost of health care for all 3 types of Village employees – Police, Teamsters and Non-Bargaining Unit employees; what cost would be incurred for each group and the side by side coverage for each. 7 They also said that Trustees Andolina and Supron, who were absent from this meeting, needed to be brought up to date on the issue. *************************************************************************** Report of the Attorney - Atty. Marcus followed up on the Public Hearings on the 3 proposed local laws. He stated that the County has no concern with any of the 3 proposal local laws. Local Law #1 and Local Law #2 are exempt from SEQR. The trustees will need to perform the SEQR short form for Local Law #3. Once that is completed, the Board can discuss further and vote. Atty. Marcus and Supt. Cross will begin the short form and bring it to the March Board meeting. The vote on LL #3 will be delayed until SEQR is completed. Motion by Trustee Riesman Seconded by Trustee Szekely Move to pass Resolution 66149 as follows: VILLAGE OF CAYUGA HEIGHTS LOCAL LAW NO. 1 OF THE YEAR 2010 A LOCAL LAW ESTABLISHING A MORATORIUM ON THE ENFORCEMENT OF A PORTION OF SECTION 9 OF THE VILLAGE OF CAYUGA HEIGHTS ZONING ORDINANCE Be it enacted by the Board of Trustees of the Village of Cayuga Heights as follows: SECTION I. PURPOSE AND INTENT. The purpose of this Local Law is to establish a moratorium for a period of ninety (90) days on the Village=s enforcement of violations of the second sentence of Section 9 of the Village of Cayuga Heights Zoning Ordinance. The Village=s Mayor and Board of Trustees recognize that fences have been erected within the Village that are non -compliant with the terms of Zoning Ordinance Section 9, that the number of such fences has been increasing at an accelerating rate in recent years, and that such acceleration is apparently the result of the increase in the population of deer within the Village. The intent of this Local Law is to provide the Village=s Mayor and Trustees the opportunity to analyze and evaluate the Village=s options for amendment of said Zoning Ordinance Section 9 in light of the recent proliferation of non-compliant fences throughout the Village apparently in response to the growth of the population of deer within the Village, which evaluation and analysis the Village desires to perform prior to the erection of any additional non-compliance fences and before the Village undertakes enforcement action in connection with existing non-compliant fences. SECTION II. AUTHORITY. This Local Law is enacted pursuant to the grant of powers to local governments provided for in (i) Section 10 of the Municipal Home Rule Law to adopt and amend local laws not inconsistent with the provisions of the New York State Constitution or not inconsistent with any general law 8 relating to its property, affairs, government or other subjects provided for in said Section 10 of the Municipal Home Rule Law, (ii) Section 10 of the Statute of Local Governments and (iii) Article 5-J of the General Municipal Law. SECTION III. ESTABLISHMENT OF MORATORIUM. A. As of the effective date of this Local Law, and continuing for a period of ninety (90) days from such effective date, the Village of Cayuga Heights will not take or initiate any administrative, judicial or legal action to enforce the requirements set forth in the second sentence in the Village of Cayuga Heights Zoning Ordinance Section 9 which reads AFences over four feet in height are permitted only when set back to the same yard requirements as for buildings.@ This moratorium on the Village=s enforcement of the terms of the second sentence of Section 9 will apply only to fences in existence as of the effective date of this Local Law. B. From the effective date of this Local Law forward until the moratorium established hereby has been terminated or otherwise expires, if the erection or construction of any fence or wall is commenced in violation of the terms of the Village=s Zoning Ordinance, as such Ordinance may be amended, the Village reserves the right to take any enforcement action as the Village deems necessary or appropriate, including but not limited to such enforcement action as may be necessary or appropriate to cause such construction or erection to cease and/or to be removed. SECTION IV. SUPERCEDING EFFECT. All Local Laws, resolutions, rules, regulations and other enactments of the Village of Cayuga Heights in conflict with the provisions of this Local Law are hereby superceded to the extent necessary to give this Local Law full force and effect. SECTION V. VALIDITY. The invalidity of any provision of this Local Law shall not affect the validity of any other provision of this Local Law that can be given effect without such invalid provision. SECTION VI. EFFECTIVE DATE. This Local Law shall be effective as of the date of filing with the New York Secretary of State. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Szekely Voted YES Trustee Riesman Voted NO 9 Motion by Trustee Riesman Seconded by Trustee Szekely Move to pass Resolution 66159 as follows: VILLAGE OF CAYUGA HEIGHTS LOCAL LAW NO. 2 OF THE YEAR 2010 A LOCAL LAW ESTABLISHING A REQUIREMENT THAT A ZONING PERMIT BE OBTAINED FOR ANY FENCE OR WALL Be it enacted by the Board of Trustees of the Village of Cayuga Heights as follows: SECTION I. PURPOSE AND INTENT. The purpose of this Local Law is to amend Section 9 of the Village of Cayuga Heights Zoning Ordinance to establish a requirement that property owners obtain a zoning permit for any fence or wall to be erected in the Village. The Village=s Mayor and Board of Trustees recognize that fences have been erected within the Village that are non -compliant with the terms of Zoning Ordinance Section 9, that the number of such fences has been increasing at an accelerating rate in recent years, and that such acceleration is apparently the result of the increase in the population of deer within the Village. The intent of this Local Law is to provide the Village an opportunity to review proposals for new fences and walls before they are erected in order to insure that said fences and walls comply with the requirements of Section 9 of the Village’s Zoning Ordinance. SECTION II. AUTHORITY. This Local Law is enacted pursuant to the grant of powers to local governments provided for in (i) Section 10 of the Municipal Home Rule Law to adopt and amend local laws not inconsistent with the provisions of the New York State Constitution or not inconsistent with any general law relating to its property, affairs, government or other subjects provided for in said Section 10 of the Municipal Home Rule Law, (ii) Section 10 of the Statute of Local Governments and (iii) Article 5-J of the General Municipal Law. SECTION III. ESTABLISHMENT OF A REQUIREMENT THAT A ZONING PERMIT BE OBTAINED FOR ANY FENCE OR WALL. As of the effective date of this Local Law, Section 9 of the Village of Cayuga Heights Zoning Ordinance is amended to add the following two sentences after the second sentence of said Section 9: Prior to the erection or construction of any fence or wall, regardless of the height of such fence or wall above the natural grade, the property owner must obtain a zoning permit signed by the Code Enforcement Officer of the Village of Cayuga Heights permitting the height and location of such fence or wall. In any event that any applicant for such a zoning permit for a fence or a wall is denied such permit on the basis that the proposed fence or wall is non-compliant with any 10 term of the Village’s Zoning Ordinance, then the applicant for the zoning permit would have the right to appeal the Code Enforcement Officer=s denial and request from the Village=s Zoning Board of Appeals an area variance for the proposed fence or wall. SECTION IV. SUPERCEDING EFFECT. All Local Laws, resolutions, rules, regulations and other enactments of the Village of Cayuga Heights in conflict with the provisions of this Local Law are hereby superceded to the extent necessary to give this Local Law full force and effect. SECTION V. VALIDITY. The invalidity of any provision of this Local Law shall not affect the validity of any other provision of this Local Law that can be given effect without such invalid provision. SECTION VI. EFFECTIVE DATE. This Local Law shall be effective as of the date of filing with the New York Secretary of State. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Reisman and Szekely Voted YES. The effective date of both of these laws is the date that New York State accepts the filing. Trustee Privilege of the Floor – Supt. Cross wished to state that comments had been made by the public stating that if the Village can’t come up with a favorable solutio n to the TCAT issue, can the Village restrict the buses from driving on our roads? Is this true or false? Atty. Marcus will check on this and report back to the Board. Trustee Bors asked Supt. Cross about residents stating that Cross approved the route change from E. Upland to The Northway 2 years ago, and asked if he agreed with that statement. Supt. Cross went into the history of the route change, and his involvement in that change. Trustee Riesman asked what the Village could do to the intersection of The Northway and The Parkway if the bus route stays as is now. Cross said that there are some things that could be done – A 3-way stop sign would have to go through Albany with the Village demonstrating a need for it. Trustee Szekely said that the Principal of Cayuga Heights Elementary School is very safety about the safety of the children. Treasurer Silber said that the Ithaca City School District should use their voice to talk to TCAT. The Mayor asked if the Village can cut into the curb to re-shape E. Upland Rd. if the route goes back to E. Upland? Cross said that would be problematic. Trustee Szekely asked if there were any instructions for her from the Board when she attended the February 23 TCAT meeting. Should the Board take an official position? The Mayor said ‘no’, just reiterate that due process was not followed as said by Trustee Supron. Treasurer Silber wished to touch on the compensation issue for the Trustees. The best time to talk about trustee compensation was before the nomination petitions were submitted to the Board of Elections. The worse time to tackle this issue is in the middle of the year. Silber stated that some sort of nominal payment was suggested and said that a nominal sum is probable and not inappropriate. 11 Motion by Trustee Bors Seconded by Trustee Riesman Move to into Executive Session at 11:13 PM for the purpose of pending litigation. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Riesman and Szekely Voted YES. Motion by Trustee Riesman Seconded by Trustee Bors Move to exit Executive Session at 11:17 PM. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Riesman and Szekely Voted YES. Motion by Trustee Riesman Seconded by Mayor Gilmore Move to adjourn at 11:17 pm. Mayor Gilmore, Trustees Bors, Donner, Riesman and Szekely Voted YES.