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As former mayor of the Village, I am pleased to have this opportunity to remind
the mayor and the trustees that politically inspired initiatives rarely have desired
outcomes.
The Community Party which Mayor Jim Gilmore and three trustees
structured theIr successful cam n primarily on their view of the need to
Village. (l remind you that the Mayor
obligations to the voters in favor "ridding tlhe deer", but ran for the hflls given
the vigorous and vocal oppositi to the program they envisioned.
llage has become seriously divided about
percentage of the poPulation are
supportive of a deer culling
Preventing villager property from thd right to adequately protect their
private property by excluding d has nothing to do with any deer reduction
program and should not be a ive issue= but as we all know, the outcome of
any such program is The Board should NOT also turn proper
issuefencing into a politically/di
irr the Village are not ugly and much to erilhance the beauty of the village by
enabling gardeners to grow, Pr and maintain and for all Villagers to enjoy
thre vistas frorn "outside the f
l\s you all know the Village pe is now fully mature and those who seek
the village are thwarted by fully mature and
green matter that have overtaken the Village,
fristorically grand views through
flourishing trees, bushes, and
inrdependent of fencing. The law will not accomplish that.
It's in everyone's interest (owners, gardeners, village residents) to put a
erect legal and reasonable fencing. Thelaw in place that allows villagers
c;urrent proposal does neither so I urge them not to pass the proposed local
law. Instead, our elected body
owners to protect their proPertY
come up with a law that permits property
that allows everyone to enjoy the gardens.
The proposed temporary won't do it.
Walter R. Lynn
102 lroquois Place
eliminate the deer problem from
succeeded in that campaign by
and two of the trustees on that
What is important is that the
the deer issue, regardless of
Flere we have an issue which is
just don't like the idea of fencing
1 vote majority.) The fact that Mayor Gilmore
lot decided not to continue to fulfill their
med primarily on the grounds that "some folks
By and large the character of fences erected
Tnre temporary fencing law,
proposed by the Board and
meall"s to deny our right to
are going to be shooting d
law requires everyone withi
agreement arnd we need mul
f,ew, rf any, sites where th
owner who objects.
I have worked in mv vard fl
resistant plants, another fall
trees and dozens of bushes
warming, puriSr the air, and
insects, birds and small ani
save heating and air conditi
beauty for us, our neighbors
Even if none of that were th
fence our property. And in
that right was recognized
enforcement upon which w
became involved in a fencin
iss;ue with another neighbor.
Brent had to resolve the ma
eliminate front and side
enforcernent without a singl
I would like to thank Fred
the proposed law is discrim
Gutenberger, who made it cl
Trustees that it would be ille
conducting a complete surv
determine each and every v
begun, woul<l be applied lly to all under the law.
ike the {eer remediation plan
a 500 foot radius of a kill site to be in
ple, changing sites. There will be
will not be at least one property
eighteer,l years, planting deer
ayor, is being pursued only as a
rce our properties. The idea that we
in the Village is a fallacy. N.Y. state
. We have planted more than sixty
plantsf which counter global.rLr yrcruLDi wrrlvu vLrLtrlLgl tsruuar
provide { safe environment for
als. They provide shade and thereby
ning resdurces and they provide
and those who frequent the area.
case, we should still have the rieht to
for the last 15 of those 1B years,
protected by a policy of non-
relied. The only time that Brent Cross
issue was,when one neighbor had an
If they could not work things out,
. Now, the policy will be to
fencing and to have Brent start
complaint.
wett for providing the evidence that
atory on its face, and Kristen
ar to the Mayor and Board of
to begin enforcement before
of all Village properties to
lation so that enforcement. once
I called the people on the Villlage's lisf of potential fencing
violators, ffid learned that the list is afso seriously flawed, but
2^-^^-*^-^a1-- T 1^^--- ^ -l L1- ^t 11- ^ -- ^ ^,^1 ^ ---lr1- ---1- -,-- T -,- -1-more importantly, I learned fhat the people with whom I spoke
were in agreement that a teri,rporary l{rv was unacceptable and any
[aw that limited our freedonl of choicb, our right to privacy, and
our right to protect our kids !r dogs or gardens was wrong and
unacceptable. They had no notice of phis change in policy and
procedure, no notice that thdy were oh a list, and no notice of the
much time has been wasted pn tellin! other people how to use their
property.
The key issues are the effec
nife in this vr{llage, the utter
this action will have on the quality of
of representation for the equally
important needs of all of th residents, the bias of a very few, the
elimination of basic legal ri
and the irrational approach
ts, the destruction of our gardens,
f this temporary law, which only
serves to allow the Mayor d Board to put off, yet again, the
creation of a permanent,ible fencing ordinance.
Finally, as the ZonrngB is the last resort for those of us who
wish to protect our children pets, and gardens, I request the
immediate appointment of
Zontns Board vacancies to
ly Grubb to filI one of the two
ing some small balance to that short-
handed and fiercelv anti-fen ing group.
were in agreement that a terC,rporary l{rv was unacceptable and ar
law that limited our freedonl of choicb, our right to privacy, and
our right to protect our kids !r dogs or gardens was wrong and
unacceptable. They had no notice of phis change in policy and
procedure, no notice that thdy were oh a list, and no notice of the
pending impact upon their li]ves and t{rey feel vulnerable to the
whims of their own Village Board.
Tkrose who could not attend asked thdt I speak on their behalf.
Additionally,I have a letter [to- Erilt Beukenkamp to enter into
the public record of this meqting. No one understands why so
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From: "'Ron Bors" <ronbors{lyahoo.com>
To: "Ron Bors" <ronbors@yahoo.corn>
My narne is,Ronald Bors. I have lived at 121
Village as a Trustee.
Last year, there was a wonderful btock pariy
fine event later this year. The purpose of
best for the entire community.
Thig law that you are conternplating tonight i
that their individualproperty rights should take
lf you allow me to erest a deerfence to
roam through my yard will now be
neighbo/s nightmare, because lhave doubled fornrer problem. lf he erects a similar fence in self
defence, he and I have tripled the problem for third neighbor. In time, this will destroy community spirit.
The people who drafted this law had good However, the consequences of this law will be
worse than the initial problem. \Ah do not fence problern, we have a deer problem. lwill continue ts
be patient while you solve the deer problem.
You mernbers of this Board, who serve
community above your individual rights.
pay, ran for office because you placed the wellfare of the
Pleasd do so for the rest of us, by voting no to this law.
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$4onday, Augtust 9, 2010 5:37 PM
Lane inlthe Mllage for 35 years, and I have served this
at Commlnity Cor:ners, and the plan is to repeat that
is to ffster community spirit, thereby doing what is
to gatFfy the strident minority of villagers who feel
over the wellbeing of the community as a whole.
rd my entire iback and side yards, the deer that used to
in my neighbo/s yard, My solution has become my
lofl 8/9/10 5:44PM
notification from the Village regarding this regent set of cqnsiderations, it certainly appears that
someone may have already decided that marfV or all fencei need to go. Additionally, there is news of
$tOO per day fines and Village crews removilg fences on nty dime. ls there no time line, no grace
period or no manner of appeal? As of this f oment, none of this seems to have been outlined.
As a homeowner in the Village, the position tfre Mayor and that of the Board of Trustees is unusually
biased iin favor of their collective will and attqmpts to ignofe input from the villagers who are to be
governed by these proposed new rules. lf r4re look at other existing rules, do we learn anything about
ourselves as a Village? Dogs are not permitted to run in packs freely throughout the Village; there is a
rule or an Ordinance for this, yet we allow of large hpofed animals to roam unchecked throughout
our area. Based on ttre evidence of deer, ujould I be allowed to introduce free-range
cattle or sheep? How do we reconcile disparities? Perhaps we should introduce limits on what
kinds of plantings we rnay have in our or stricter controls on where our children may play, or
establish a community fund to help pay for dfer-car collisiOn costs. All these are possible but not
Erik J. Eleukenkamp
IL7 E. tlemington Rd.
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I have asked Linda Bors, my
I am a 90 year old widow, livin$ on the modest street of Texas Lane for the
past 55 years. I have watched tlie deer herd go from nothing, in 1955 , to
unmanageable in 2010. And theq'keep incfpasing exponer$ially every ylff,
to the point thrlt they want to eat anything reachable including my trees. I
don't have the means to fence my property .
What will happen when a more generous foncing law is enacted? Fenced
out of other yards the deer and their proge4y will only make the problems of
those without fencing even worsb. Destruction of property and deer ticks
will increase.
Please continue working on the sensibne strategy of culling, NOT fencing.
Sinceerely ,
-
Charlene Miller
205 Texas Lane
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Since I am unable to attend the meeting,
neiglrbor, to read this statement by me.
Hello, I am a village resident for 34 5{ears and I have never seen such discontent in the
village.
Ttre most important issue we might rdsolve tonig$t - is to allow us all to live together
peacefully as neighbors and friends. The deer isdue has indeed been divisive.
I can think of no better way to bring {s together than to allow people who choose to have
fences to do so. Fences accomplish 4 number of things: (1) allow us to keep children
and pets safely with in our own yards, (2) allow up to keep out deer and dogs who might
have slipped their leashes, (3) allow ris privacy, ({) allow those who wish to do so - to
garden and (5) to keep us as friends aird neighborE in a wonderful neighborhood.
I strongly support fencing both temp{wy andperlmanent - but prefer permanent as a
solution to the deer issue - so that wd may move forward with imponant issues in the
vitrlage. These issues are safety of children and the elderly by building sidewalks and
cross walks in nLore neighborhoods, {ocus on speqding again for safety of residents, and
on other importeLnt matter of governqlent. I would like my elected officials to work on
matters of govemment and not be tie{ with the endless and divisive argument concerning
deer.
The real heroes and heroines on the bbard of trustee will surelv helo us to heal as a
community.
I implore you board of trustees to wofk diligently to bring us together as a community for
the sake of all of us.
Sincerely
Mary Tabacchi
705 The Parkway
Clrr, -Fencing Ordinance. Comments from Satty Grubb, 104 Midway Road. YJW@^LM
o I would like to applaud the Trustees for taKing this first step to address the
problems we have with the curlent fencing ordinance. The proposed changes
will go a long way to address tlie needs of many Village Residents. lt is
unfodunate that the changes are only TEMPORARY. I believe time will show that
. Unfortunately the changes do rlot go far enough. There are many issues that
have not been addressed and will continue to provide problems to our
Zoning Office Brent Cross, and to VillagerB who wish to erect compliant fencing.
First there is still no definition of a fence. lt is fine for Brent Cross to have one in
his head but that does not helpj a Villager seeking information from the website.
The proposed changes do not help. will the temporary fencing I have round my
trees in my front yard be in nce or not. lt is well within 25ft of the front
property line, but I am not on
owners.
's list of possible non-compliant property
How willVillagers know their nt fencd is not in compliance? lf it is in
compliance with the tem ordinance willt a permit be required? There are
many properries not identified the FOlLed list provided by Brent that could be
these changes should
yard setback.
considered to have out of
propedies?
After the photos were taken la
fences wer€) and several new
Randy Marcus, the Village I
and not to some properties. H
and that deer fences are no lo
permanenf. You should also reconsider the front
liant fences. What will happen to those
summer and the moratorium imposed many
erected. How will these be identified?
has said the law must be applied to everyone
will this be handled?
that deer remediation has been successful
necessary?
Who will decide which fences re out of compliance and which are alright. Will
permits be required for all fe already erected and how much will the village
charge for tlhese? lf the ord ce continues to be vague how will the ZBA be
expected to handle appeals?
What happerns to the 30% of llage properties whose front yards are two small
to accommodate the 25 ft set for a front fence? 30% is a very high number
to be ignored by the democr
What criteria will be used to
process through the rule of the majority.
When will the Trustees/Planni Committee work on a permanent update to the
fencing ordinance so that Vil may erect attractive effective fences which
they know will not have to down. Will the Trustees appointng an ad-hoc
fencing committee with a mem p which includes at least one Villager in
favor of fenr:es to make ndations on fully updated fencing ordinance?
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jack@youngbros.com
Mcrnday, August 02,2010 4:47 AM
Norma Manning
Proposed Fence Law comments
yards are different, however - deer encountering a fe
predictable consequences. So I do agree with the Pla
Deer fences along side and rea:r lot lines will clearly deer into 4eighboring properties, but we have to hope that
nobody will build a fence against the strong wishes of ir neighbo[s, even where they have the legal right to do so. Front
there will IJe pushed back onto public sidewalks and roads, with
fences need to be retained, both to preserve the open
ing Board's determination that full front yard set-backs for deer
el of the Villhge, but also for health and safety reasons.
I wish to go on record as being supportive of the I the Trustees have received from the Planning Board despite my
long-standing reservations about the impact of deer
Village, as well as learning to live with some reasona
found and accepted on all sides. I think that current
Thanks very much for taking my thoughts into co
JackYoung
cing on our neighborhood. We have to live with each other in this
deer popul4tion, and that means that compromises need to be
posal meetg that standard by a slim, but acceptable, margin.