HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes of the Board Meeting August 9, 2010.pdfMinutes of the Board of Trustees August 9, 2010
Village of Cayuga Heights
Meeting of the Board of Trustees
Present: Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman, and Szekely,
Attorney Marcus, Supt. Cross, Ass’t. Supt. Frisbie, Fire Supt. Tamborelle, Sgt.
Steinmetz, Clerk Manning
Absent: Treasurer Silber, Police Chief Boyce,
Others: Mindy Mindlin, Barbara Lynn, David Donner, Lee Donner, Linda Bors,
Charlene Temple, Curt Ashman, Peter Hirtle, Ann Ashman, Sally Grubb, Michael
Hostetler, Petru Petrina, Joe Cowan, Mary Berkelman, Karen Kaufmann, M. Jackson,
Nishi Rassvick, Richard Kittredge, Ann Gray, Mary Anne & Brian Pitzer, Steve Flash,
Barbara Shulman, Regina Moravek, Elizabeth Edmondson, Sherene Baugher, Martin
Harms, Mary Tabacchi, Guy Tabacchi, David Alelly, Suzanne VanDeMark, Mark Eisner,
Paula Eisner, Patrick Fish, Kirk Sigel, Kathryn Dimiduk, Elizabeth Mount, Pete Bottorff,
Sarah Hatcher, Walter Lynn, Jim Gilmore, Ronald Bors, Anita Watkins, Jean Balliett,
Barbara Eden, Brian Eden, John Martin, Joyce Putnam, Richard Putnam, June Silberman,
Helen Swank, Robert Silberman, R.W. Nesbitt, Christina Lacey, Roseanne Moresco,
Graham Gillespie, Leonard Rosenfield
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Mayor Supron opened the meeting of August 9, 2010 at 7:00 PM and asked for approval
of the minutes of July 19, 2010.
Approval of Minutes
Motion by Trustee Riesman
Seconded by Trustee Crooker
Move to approve the minutes of the joint meeting with Board of Trustees and the
Planning Board on June 21, 2010 as submitted.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karn, Riesman, and Szekely
Voted YES.
Motion by Trustee Szekely
Seconded by Trustee Crooker
Move to approve the minutes of July 19, 2010.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karn, Riesman, and Szekely
Voted YES.
Public Hearing
Mayor Supron then opened the Public Hearing on the proposed Local Law amending
Section 9 of the Village of Cayuga Heights Zoning Ordinance to permit “temporary deer
fences” explaining that everyone will have 2 minutes to speak with Village residents
speaking first, then non-residents,
* P. Bottorff – Fencing will drive deer from fenced property to non-fenced property.
Concerned that the fence ordinance will weaken the overall deer remediation plan.
* W. Lynn – Put a law in place that allows villagers to erect legal and reasonable fencing.
The current proposal does neither. Instead of passing the proposed local law, the Village
elected body should come up with a law that permits property owners to protect their
property and that allows everyone to enjoy the gardens.
* J. Gilmore – thanks to the Board for serving. It has taken 3 Mayors to reach the March
31, 2010 deer plan. Objects to temporary fencing as it detracts from the actual deer plan
to be put into place.
* R. Bors – 35 year resident of VCH. The proposed law will satisfy the minority of
Villagers who feel their needs are more important – deer will go to some one else’s yard
instead of mine. Consequences of the law will be worse than the law itself.
* A.Watkins – speaking for herself and husband, Don Campbell. They are opposed to
taller fences, permanent or temporary. If people fence, deer will be forced to non-deer
areas, including streets which will result in car-deer accidents. Keep eye on deer
remediation.
* M. Mindlin – temporary fencing law is being pursued as a means to deny fences to
people in the Village. Shooting deer will not happen as all neighbors within 500 ft of a
shoot site have to agree. The law on the books has been ignored for the last 15-18 years
and now Brent is going to enforce it.
* L.Bors – letter from Charlene Miller on Texas Lane – 90 year old widow, resident of
VCH for 55 years. Deer have gone from none to un-manageable. Doesn’t have the
means to fence her yard – others doing so will drive deer into her yard.
* C. Ashman – his fence is not only to keep out deer, but to protect his property.
Neighbors have complimented his fence. Doesn’t want to send deer to other yards. We
need to consider other factors other than deer.
* S. Grubb – 20+ resident of VCH. Discussion is the location of the fences. Applauds the
Board for their efforts – too bad it’s only temporary. Need to consider the front yard
setback. No definition of a fence is stated. How will residents know if their fence is in
compliance? Who will decide? What happens to the 35% of residents who don’t have the
front yard setback?
*M. Hostetler – 1 ½ years ago his neighbor put up a fence. Deer population has grown in
his yard over that time. Good luck with the decision.
* K. Kaufman – Commends Board. Supports prospect of peripheral fencing. People
should be able to protect however the front yard fencing needs to be looked at further.
The temporary 5 year provision will allow the PB to work out issues of definition.
Temporary perimeter fencing ordinance will allow us to work more on the deer problem.
*A. Gray – doesn’t have a front yard and is not interested in putting up an 8’ fence but
doesn’t mind if neighbor wants to. Doesn’t agree with logic that temporary fencing will
derail the deer project. Need to deal with the here and now. Doesn’t understand the
fence regulations. Prohibition against fences are medieval.
*B. Pitzer – has a fence cited as possibly in violation. Fence or no fence, get on with the
deer management problem.
*S. Flash – opposed to fencing. It’s not a deer remediation. Kicks the problem down the
road. Is unworkable. Wants to focus on deer remediation plan. Temporary becomes
permanent. Pits neighbor against neighbor and is unsightly.
*M Eisner – has a non-compliant fence. Property was fenced when he bought the
property. Deer jumped the 4 ft fence – put up 2 ft. of mesh on top of 4 ft. fence. Will be
out of compliance with the new ordinance. 2 things – temporary fencing would get in
way with deer remediation and will concentrate deer.
*P. Fish – Step in right direction. Too bad it didn’t happen 10 years ago. 2-step
program. Deer don’t respect boundaries. Look at total expenses.
*K. Siegel – newest ZB member – supports proposed ordinance. Would like to relax front
yard setbacks to make them less than 25 ft.
*E. Mount – listening to number against fencing – we already have a fence ordinance.
Question is where do we put the fences? No longer has a front yard setback.
Uncomfortable with the word “temporary”. Will they actually be temporary? Can go
with temporary as a step in the right direction.
*D. LaCapra – In our minds the fencing issue is connected. Any initiative will be
divisive. We are not a gated community therefore the rules must be flexible on fencing.
Re” deer issue – why do we think professionals are always right? There is a good chance
that an accident will happen. Sterilization if done correctly is as effect as killing the deer.
*M. Tabacchi – not going to put up a fence but those who want to should have the right.
We all should live together. Strongly supports fencing permanent and temporary. Focus
on other important aspects of government.
*B. Shulman – wide variety of property sizes in the Village. Setbacks need to be
addressed. We should work from existing fence ordinance. Can’t be bothered with deer
psychology, only that people with small setbacks be able to fence.
*B.Eden – Has grown vegetables for 40 years. Would like to see our society grow more
food. No fencing proposed will address deer in gardens. Nothing less than 10 ft chain
link fence will be effective. Deer will continue to go in deer and non-deer areas. This is
not a solution.
*M. Eisner – are 4 ft fences legal independent of setbacks? Yes they are.
*C. Temple – does not advocate deer killing but does advocate fencing. Thank you,
Board, for your time and patience.
*S. Baugher – in favor of temporary fence ordinance and would love to see it become
permanent. Town of Ithaca neighbors live peacefully. They have a history of allowing
fencing.
Public Hearing closed at 8:05 PM.
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The Mayor opened the Public Hearing at 8:06 on a proposed Local Law amending
Section 2 of the Village of Cayuga Heights Zoning Ordinance regarding residence district
occupancy regulations.
No one wished to speak at this Public Hearing.
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Privilege of the Floor
S. Vandermark – still very concerned about TCAT Rt. 30. TCAT ignored the Board’s
resolution. Pam Mackesy said that they have spent too much time on this and they have
done their due diligence. Susie passed around a copy of a slide that TCAT said was due
diligence. The Village should now pass a law stronger than your resolution.
A. Wagner – the route is unsafe. Spoke about kids on the Parkway and a near accident he
saw. The Board’s action in the upcoming months will set a precedent in the Village.
R. Duffy Moravic – Not a safe path that TCAT is traveling – relayed a near accident with
TCAT bus.
N. Waznik – pays attention to the speed of the bus as she lives at 106 Northway.
Alarmed with the speed of the buses and is becoming alarmed with the opening of school.
Better speed checks should be in place.
P. Salton – while he was away a resolution was passed sending the busses back to
Upland. Sympathizes with others, but buses happen. We need to have a regulated
approach to where the buses can and can’t go.
F. DeWolf – Thank you Board. TCAT feels it can go anywhere in the Village they want
and when they want. Would residents not on a bus travelled street want a bus on their
street?
D. LaCapra – Have a CH police car posted where the buses are raveling and cite for
reckless endangerment as well as speeding.
Privilege of the Floor closed.
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Report of the Mayor
The Trustees spoke on the proposed Local Law on residency district occupancy.
Trustee Karns – asked if the Village received approval from the County. (Yes, the
County approved the proposed local law.) This small change to the law is a step in the
right direction.
Attorney Marcus – the purpose of this change was to clarify the existing language - solely
to create clarification where there was ambiguity. Enactment of this local law is
categorized as exempt from SEQR under Section 27.
Trustee Riesman – sees the change as a clarification of the language.
Motion by Trustee Riesman
Seconded by Trustee Szekely
Move to pass Resolution 6702 amending Section 2 of the Village of Cayuga Heights
Zoning Ordinance regarding residence district occupancy regulations.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
There was discussion on the proposed temporary deer fence law.
Trustee Szekely – at the September 2009 meeting, she asked if she should recuse herself
from discussion the fence issue and Attorney Marcus said that unless the issue was
specifically about her fence, she didn’t have to.
Trustee Karns – thinks temporary fencing is a good compromise and supports 10 ft.
setback in the front.
Trustee Riesman – in favor of individual rights. The Village currently allows fencing.
She is opposed to high fencing but in the spirit of looking at concerns of residents, she
has moved to side and back fencing at 8 ft. She is opposed to front yard fencing at the
property line. Wishes we could have enforced the law as it stood a long time ago. Can
live with 8 ft. side and back, but 25 ft.setback in front.
Trustee Crooker – intrigued and interested in the comments heard tonight and has not
moved off his position. Is opposed to the change in the ordinance as it’s not correcting
the problem that needs to be addressed. To push this out another 5 years is not the right
answer.
Trustee Szekely – has had a difficult time trying to think thru this issue. Can not
compromise. Given the damage done by deer, we have to allow the residents to fence –
allow anyone to put up a deer fence anywhere they like.
Trustee Andolina – Thought about this issue many times. Can’t predict what is going to
happen in 5 years. Large part of what we are doing is what the fencing will look like in
the Village in the future. The Village’s responsibility is to throw energy on deer
remediation. We’ve got our best guess that the cure is deer remediation. Get the plan in
place and done. Enforce the fence ordinance as it stands now. He does, however, respect
everyone else’s view point.
Mayor Supron – Hears Trustee Andolina’s issues and points. Not a black and white
issue. She hears and respects Trustees Szekely and Karn’s issues also.
Supt. Cross – since the Town of Ithaca passed their law, there weren’t many permits
issued. He thinks it would be less confusing if we either left the front yard setback as it is
now or take it to zero. The deer program is moving forward – nothing is preventing us
from moving forward.
Trustee Karns asked about the second moratorium law. It was noted that due to an
administrative oversight, the law extending the moratorium was filed too late with New
York State.
How would the Village move forward with compliance with the current law if the
proposed law did not pass? A formal study of the fences across the Village would have
to be done, with a comprehensive list compiled. Results will vary greatly. Supt. Cross
doesn’t see it as a long and involved process – taking no longer than 30 days. Mayor
Supron thinks the process of enforcement is going to take a lot of time – it is a
tremendous undertaking.
Trustee Karns is against grandfathering in any fences.
Trustee Crooker said we have to enforce the laws we have or change them. There should
be NO selective enforcement.
Mayor Supron said that there seemed to be a lot of opposition to the temporary nature of
the proposed law.
There was discussion on whether or not to vote. A short SEQR will need to be performed
before the vote is taken. Trustee Crooker said that the Board should vote at this time.
Motion by Trustee Szekely
Seconded by Trustee Crooker
Move to enter Executive Session to discuss possible litigation at 9:15 PM.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
Motion by Trustee Riesman
Seconded by Trustee Karns
Move to exit Executive Session at 9:32 PM.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
Mayor Supron explained that the Board will go thru the SEQR review and then the Board
will vote on the proposed fence law. The short form SEQR was then completed by the
Board.
Motion by Trustee Crooker
Seconded by Trustee Karns
Move to pass Resolution 6703 stating a negative declaration on the short SEQR
form.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
It was also noted at this time that the County planning dept. has responded that they have
no comment on Article 239M General Municipal Law.
Motion by Trustee Karns
Seconded by Trustee Andolina
Move to pass Resolution 6704 proposing Local Law amending Section 9 of the
Village of Cayuga Heights Zoning Ordinance to permit “Temporary Deer Fences”.
Mayor Supron, Trustees, Karns, and Riesman VOTED Yes.
Trustees Andolina, Crooker and Szekely VOTED No.
NO ACTION TAKEN
The Board discussed passing a resolution again to file the local law (which was not filed
on time) on extending the fence moratorium. It was decided that there is no need to
extend the moratorium now since the proposed fence law will not go into effect. The
current fence law will remain and enforcement of that law will begin.
Mayor Supron then spoke about the decision of the consultant to prepare an
Environmental Impact Statement for deer remediation. Five proposals were received and
those 5 were narrowed down to 2 – C.T. Male and Associates with a cost of $35,000 and
Tim Miller Associates with a cost of $24,000. There was some discussion on the
proposals, stating that both firms understand how far the Trustees have come and
appreciate the work that has been done.
Motion by Trustee Andolina
Seconded by Trustee Riesman
Move to pass Resolution 6705 accepting the bid to prepare an Environmental
Impact Statement to Tim Miller Associates at a cost of $24,000.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
The next item up for discussion was the appointment of a ZBA alternate to fill the open
position left vacant by the resignation of Alison Smith.
Motion by Trustee Crooker
Seconded by Trustee Szekely
Move to pass Resolution 6706 approving the appointment of Mark Eisner as ZBA
alternate.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
TCAT – Mayor Supron would like to write a letter to TCAT stating that the Village does
not think that there was any due diligence done before the decision was made to move
bus 30 to the Northway, and both the Village and TCAT should look for some kind of
mediation. She would also like to have a traffic study performed at The Parkway and
Northway.
Trustee Crooker said that TCAT moved the bus at the Mall from in front of Target to the
Sears entrance because they were asked to. He finds that troubling. He keeps thinking of
keeping the public safe and the public trust.
Supt. Cross spoke about the original quote from SRF (transportation study) when the
Village was going to look at traffic control devices in 2007. There is no professional
assessment that there is a safety issue at The Parkway/Northway intersection. The scope
for performing another study should be as comprehensive as possible. Sgt. Steinmetz
offered that the Village should widen the scope to E. Upland/Hanshaw Road where it
goes past CHES so the study is done on all the roads near the school. Atty. Marcus said
we need to need to know the safest outcome. The Village needs to get all of the answers.
Nancy Oltz was present at this meeting. The Mayor asked her what she thought about the
Village asking TCAT to be involved in remediation. Ms. Oltz couldn’t comment – the
decision is at TCAT’s board level.
Motion by Trustee Andolina
Seconded by Trustee Crooker
Move to pass Resolution 6707 approving the funding for a traffic study at a cost not
to exceed $5850 (from contingency) and authorize Supt. Cross to negotiate the scope
of services and the cost.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
Report of the Fire Supt. – Report distributed and on file.
Supt. Tamborelle stated that the bid packets for the fire truck were opened by the Clerk,
given to the Treasurer and will be reported/discussed at the September board meeting.
Report of the Supt. of Public Works – Supt. Cross was recently contacted by the
Village of Groton, which is doing a WWTP improvement project. Since their project
involves working on a digester, they must remove the existing septage to allow the work
to be done. Therefore, they have asked if we will treat the septage for them. This would
be done at our WWTP without special processing or operational changes. The septage
will be added to our digesters and be processed as part of our normal sludge production.
Yaws Environmental, WWTP operator, has spoken to the NYSDEC and received verbal
approval to accept the Groton septage.
Although this activity is on a limited basis in the spirit of Intermunicipal cooperation, we
will receive compensation at the market rate of $0.07/gallon. There is an estimated
quantity of approximately 52,000 gallons.
Since this is a one time arrangement, Cross is asking for a resolution to authorize the
cooperation with the Village of Groton.
Motion by Trustee Andolina
Seconded by Trustee Szekely
RESOLUTION # 6708 - ACCEPT SEPTAGE FROM THE VILLAGE OF
GROTON WWTP TO BE TREATED AT VILLAGE OF CAYUGA HEIGHTS
WWTP
Whereas, the Village of Groton is in the process of upgrading their WWTP and
have approximately 52,000 gallons of septage (liquid sludge) that needs to be
disposed, and
Whereas, the Village of Cayuga Heights WWTP operator has reviewed the chemical
analysis of the Groton septage and deemed it to be acceptable at the Village WWTP,
and
Whereas, the NYSDEC has approved the Village to take the septage from Groton,
and
Whereas, it has been determined that the value of the septage treatment is
$0.07/gallon, and now
Therefore, the Village of Cayuga Heights hereby agrees to accept septage from the
Village of Groton WWTP to be treated at the Village WWTP, and
Therefore, the Village WWTP will accept up to 52,000 gallons of septage to be
charged to the Village of Groton at $0.07/gallon.
Supt. Cross then reported that he has had a request for a Vet Clinic in the Commercial
District. We may need to add a Vet Clinic to our list of allowable uses in the
Commercial District.
Cross also reported that the emergency culvert repair on N. Sunset Rd. is under budget at
this time.
Report of the Ass’t Supt. of Public Works – Report on file. No questions.
Report of the Police Chief – Chief Boyce was absent, Sgt Steinmetz attended in his
absence. Report on file. No questions.
Report of the Clerk – Clerk Manning asked for a resolution allowing Deputy Clerk Neff
to attend the NYCOM Fall Training School September 20-24.
Motion by Trustee Riesman
Seconded by Trustee Andolina
Move to pass Resolution 6709 approving the attendance of Deputy Clerk Mary Jane
Neff at the NYCOM Fall Training School to be held September 20 -25, 2010 at a cost
not to exceed $500.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
Clerk Manning had a request from Mr. Petru Petrina of 906 Triphammer Road for an
address for his apartment at the same address.
Motion by Trustee Andolina
Seconded by Trustee Riesman
Move to pass Resolution 6710 approving the address of 906-B Triphammer Road
for the apartment at 906 Triphammer Road built by Mr. Petru Petrina.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
Report of the Treasurer – Report on file. Treasurer Silber was absent. No questions
from the Board.
Motion by Trustee Riesman
Seconded by Trustee Crooker
Move to pass Resolution 6711 approving the abstract of vouchers dated 8/9/10 in the
amount of $162,080.87 and the supplemental abstract for $25,505.14, and instruct
that the Treasurer make payments thereon.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
Motion by Trustee Crooker
Seconded by Trustee Riesman
Motion to enter Executive Session at 11:00 pm to discuss proposed litigation.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
Motion by Trustee Riesman
Seconded by Trustee Andolina
Motion to exit Executive Session at 11:14 pm.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.
Motion by Trustee Andolina
Seconded by Trustee Riesman
Motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:15 pm.
Mayor Supron, Trustees Andolina, Crooker, Karns, Riesman and Szekely
VOTED Yes.