HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes of the Planning Board Meeting July 16, 2008.pdf
Village of Cayuga Heights Planning Board
July 16, 2008
Planning Board Members Present: Ron Bors, Dave Donner, Diana Riesman, Frank
Collyer, Roy Staley and Chairman Jim Gilmore
Absent: Planning Board Member Antil
Others: Brent Cross, and Atty. Elena Flash, Clerk Manning
Guests: Neil Olver, George Breuhaus, Architect, Robert Keller, Louise Sharon
Abbott (Girodano), Linda Bors, Sarah Hatcher, Carole Schiffman
The Planning Board (PB) meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by PB Chairman Jim
Gilmore who gave a brief overview of the Chemung Canal Trust Bank building project.
The Chemung demolition is complete and the ground breaking ceremony was held.
Chemung is in the process of completing the construction permit. They have received
verbal DEC approval.
The Planning Board received a letter from the Ciaschi family officially asking the Board
to reconsider the “No Left Turn onto Pleasant Grove Road” issue. Chairman Gilmore
said that that subject will go on the agenda at a later date.
Neil Olver was then introduced and the Public Hearing and Site Plan Review was
officially opened. The information session was previously held, and Neil provided a
drawing explaining his plan to the Board and the public.
Comments and Questions –
Drainage – The water will drain towards Triphammer Road at the NW corner of
the site. It will hold there for the Village to extend the stormwater system to that point.
There will be a swale at the backside of the property abutting The Wordpro to hold
retention. Bob Kalter of Wordpro expressed his concern about the drainage issue near
The Wordpro. There was much discussion about the drainage issue.
Parking – A total of 34 total parking spaces will be created (an additional 24 from
what is existing now).
Existing garage – it was undecided if the existing garage is coming down or not.
There was talk about taking the garage down and extending parking. Or the garage can
be relocated to residential space with parking in the commercial space? Parking is now
planned for the commercial space, with the retainage pond in the residential space.
Square footage of the offices? Olver said that there will be no more than 4000 sf
on the first floor – 800-1800 sf on the second floor. Trustee Riesman asked about the
number of employees. Olver said it is too premature to say. He hopes for a financial
tenant, 9-5 pm, Mon-Friday. He has 5-7 employees in his current space. He hopes to
have around 15 in the new building. A point of reference that other municipalities use is
one parking space per 200 sf for parking. Supt. Cross interjected that though Mr. Olver
keeps talking about 4000 sf, His application states 3918 sf. He has to work within the
application number.
Olver has put cones in place to represent the corners of the building as set on the
land. North of the existing driveway, there is a tree that has to come down. Olver was
asked to consider a buffer between residential area and commercial properties at the back
of the parking area. PB member Staley asked how old the trees are…do they go in with
the reforestation plan the board has talked about? Bob Kalter said that the spruces are
over 50 years old. According to Supt. Cross, Mr. Giordano, who was the first residential
owner, was concerned about tree removal. Supt. Cross said that for every tree taken
down, a replacement should be planted. The spruces that are there are in good shape and
are ideal for screening. It is not unusual to request screening between parking and
residential areas, but you need a spot to put snow removal.
Mrs. Giordano is concerned about the swale. The architect, George Breuheus,
said that the swale normally doesn’t hold a lot of water. There will not be a mosquito
issue with standing water. Supt Cross is anticipating adherence to stormwater
regulations.
In reply to Mr. Kalter about the drainage issue, Supt. Cross said that Olver will
need to submit a formal drainage plan which will have to be acceptable. When it comes
time to consider approval of the overall plan, one of the considerations is the acceptable
stormwater plan. Chairman Gilmore offered to have the Village Forester contact Neil
about the existing trees. Neil would like to talk to him about the old oak tree that he was
told would be dead in 5 years.
Landscaping details can be set as a condition. Chairman Gilmore asked about the
tall fence that belongs to the Giordano’s. They were granted a variance by the ZBA to
erect a fence higher than the 4 ft. to separate the commercial property from their
backyard. Mrs. Giordano said that she understands that the trees are on Olver’s property,
but she asked that he be mindful that the area is “nicely treed”.
PB member Riesman said that the number of people coming into the building at
one time may be minimal. Maybe Olver can minimize the number of parking spaces by
one or two to preserve the trees in question. PB memberStaley said that if only a few
trees come down rather than all of them, it may look better. Architect Breuhaus said that
if the Board dictates the number of parking spaces, he can redo the plan keeping the trees
in.
PB member Riesman said that what is distinctive about Cayuga Heights is the amount of
forestation. The Village should try to work things out so we are not cutting down old
healthy trees.
A drawing of the building was then presented with wood instead of brick on the outside
due to the rise in prices. The building will be 1 ½ story. There was discussion about the
front doors being solid vs. glass. Also there was discussion on the height of the peak of
the building. Olver’s proposed building is 26/27 ft, the Warren building is 40 ft.(not the
zoning height).
The color of the building can be a condition of the permit.
Architect Breuhaus stated that no variances would be needed. The building is in full
compliance. He hopes the Board will approve it. Atty. Flash suggested that the Board
close the Public Hearing and move ahead. Chairman Gilmore didn’t want to close it, but
wanted to adjourn it for another time. There was discussion on this point. If the choice is
to extend the Public Hearing to another time, the basis should not be that the public didn’t
have enough time to be aware of the building plan. The village has met all the legal
criteria for publishing the public hearing.
Motion by Planning Board Member Riesman
Seconded by Planning Board Member Staley
Move to close the Public Hearing of the Site Plan Review of the proposed Olver
building and consider discussion among the Planning Board.
Planning Board Members Bors, Collyer, Donner, Riesman and Staley voted YES.
The next step is to perform the SEQR review and pass the resolution stating the Village
of Cayuga Heights as lead agency. PB Bors was concerned that someone was looking
over our shoulder. It was said that only if there was something significant that a member
of the public claimed that this project would have a negative impact if that were declared,
would we be watched. PB Staley said that the SEQR will lead the Board into these
issues.
Motion by Planning Board Member Bors
Seconded by Planning Board Member Riesman
Move to pass Resolution xxxx: SEQR Lead Agency and Classification for proposed
new Building at 412 E. Upland Road.
The Village of Cayuga Heights Planning Board (Planning Board) hereby determines
that there are no other involved or interested agencies and hereby declares itself
lead agency for the purpose of coordinating the State Environmental Quality
Review as part of the Site Plan Review of the proposed new building at 412 E.
Upland Road (hereinafter referred to as the “Project”).
The Planning Board hereby determines that the Project constitutes an Unlisted
Action because the proposed gross floor area is 5,100 sf (3,900 sf footprint), which
exceeds the 4000 sf threshold for type II Actions under 6 NYCRR Part 617.5 (2) 7.
Furthermore, as an Unlisted Action, the Planning Board hereby determines that it
must perform a review of the potential environmental impacts related to the Project
and make a determination of significance before rendering a final decision on the
Site Plan Review.
The Planning Board hereby determines that based on the size of the project
footprint, the Short Form Environmental Assessment Form is adequate to evaluate
the environmental impacts of the Project, and further the Planning Board hereby
directs the applicant to complete and submit such Short Form to the Planning
Board.
Planning Board Member Bors, Collyer, Donner, Riesman and Staley voted YES.
Now that this resolution was passed, the Planning Board needs to come up with a date to
consider the SEQR short form. After that is completed, the PB makes the consideration
of final action. Supt. Cross, Chairman Gilmore and Atty. Flash will work on
recommendations for the next meeting. Then the final recommendation on the project
can be passed.
The Board should discuss among themselves to be able to tell Mr. Olver what kind of
conditions are necessary to move forward. Some of the issues that the Board raised were:
Proper drainage control
Handicap access
Maintain residential zone
Clogged drain by The Wordpro – do not make the matter any worse
Garage “may” be moved
Parking spaces will be looked at
5800 sf – new building, 2000 sf – present building
Spruce trees – every effort will ne made to preserve, otherwise some may be cut
Pipe water off swale – Brent will work with the architect
Plant up to 5 trees
Majority of bricks have been removed from initial design, now design is cement
or vinyl siding (Hardy board)
Supt. Cross will have Mr. Olver come back to the PB with a detailed proposal to see if he
can eliminate some parking spaces, and a detailed landscape plan.
PB member Bors would like to see additional assurances that Olver has considered the
landscaping issue, i.e. planting a tree for every one that gets cut down. Mr. Olver said
that he would do that.
PB member Bors also asked about the 4th elevation. There was discussion about the
visuals when you look at the building from all angles. The PB would like to see a
detailed drawing of the outside of the building with specifically the west elevation. They
would also like to see an interior drawing. PB member Staley asked if the PB is looking
for concept or detail. PB member Riesman isn’t looking for “types” of plantings, just a
general idea of outside aesthetics.
Supt. Cross said that the one item not mentioned was signage. Unless Olver chooses a
variance, he will be limited by square footage sign allowances. Neil said that if he moves
to the front of the new building, he would leave the front sign where it is presently. If he
stays in the present building, he would like to move the front sign to in front of his
present building. Neil and Supt. Cross will discuss further.
PB member Bors wanted to be sure that though Olver was previously talking about a
variance for parking, that is now off the table.
Supt. Cross said that he is ok with the conceptual plan of the drainage issue, but will need
specifics to approve the plan. Another meeting will be held on Tuesday, August 12 from
11:00 am – 12:30 pm.
Motion by Planning Board Member Riesman
Seconded by Planning Board Member Bors
Move to adjourn the Planning Board Meeting at 9:05 pm
Planning Board Member Bors, Collyer, Donner, Riesman and Staley voted YES.
Motion by Trustee Riesman
Seconded by Trustee Donner
Move to open the Meeting of the Board of Trustees at 9:05 pm.
Trustees Bors, Collyer, Donner, Riesman and Staley voted YES.
Motion by Trustee Collyer
Seconded by Trustee Bors
Move to approve payment of outstanding voucher to Beaver Dam Water control
and Construction Company in the amount of $2425.00 for repair work performed
on Marcham Hall and to approve up to $1000 more for additional carpenter ant
remediation/carpentry to repair and replace rotten wood.
Trustees Bors, Collyer, Donner, Riesman and Staley voted YES.
Motion by Trustee Donner
Seconded by Trustee Bors
Move to close the Meeting of the Board of Trustees at 9:10 pm.
Trustees Bors, Collyer, Donner, Riesman and Staley voted YES.