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PLANNING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday, March 6, 2018
Approved: March 20, 2018
Present: Chair David Blake, and board members Rebecca Schneider, and John Wertis and
alternate Benjamin LeWalter; Town Planner Darby Kiley; Town Board Liaison Rich Goldman.
Excused: Jonathan Ferrari
Mr. LeWalter was named a voting member in Mr. Ferrari’s absence.
Public in Attendance: Charles and Mary Tutton, Carl Mazzocone, Jason Demarest, Linda
Liddle, and Ann Filley.
Call to Order: 7 p.m.
Agenda Review; Minutes Review (02/20/18)
Mr. Wertis offered an addition to the agenda regarding Planning Board minutes. The February
20, 2018 minutes were not yet available.
Privilege of the Floor: No one addressed the Board at this time.
Public Hearing on Major Subdivision: Consideration of subdivision approval for a five-lot
subdivision, where three lots have previously been subdivided from the original parcel. The
owners subdivided a 10.53 acre parcel in August 2016, a 10.87 acre parcel in January 2017, and
an approximately 18 acre parcel in June 2017. The current proposal includes approximately 3.93
acres on the northeast corner of Dubois and Glenwood Heights Rds (parcel A); approximately
10.85 acres on the southeast corner of Dubois and Glenwood Heights Rds (parcel B);
approximately 6.55 acres on the south side of Glenwood Heights Rd on the eastern boundary of
the parcel (parcel C); and approximately 26.31 acre flag lot north of the existing farm house
(parcel D). The address for the existing house is 1213 Glenwood Heights Rd, Tax Parcel Number
32.-1-12.2. Charles and Mary Tutton, owners.
As Mr. Blake stated, the Tutton subdivision was discussed at the Planning Board’s February 6,
2018 meeting, a negative determination was made in regard to SEQR at the Board’s February 20,
2018 meeting, and a public notice of the evening’s hearing was published in the Ithaca Journal
on February 26, 2018.
Ms. Schneider MADE the MOTION to open the public hearing, and Mr. Wertis SECONDED
the MOTION. The motion was unanimously carried.
No one offered any comments during the hearing.
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Mr. Wertis MADE the MOTION to close the public hearing, and Ms. Schneider SECONDED
the MOTION. The motion was unanimously carried.
Addressing the Tuttons, Ms. Schneider offered that there may need to be other protections to
prevent forested land from being logged on the largest subdivided Tutton parcel. Currently, an
existing stream limits access, but, as she stated, that is not a guaranteed protection.
Resolution for Subdivision Approval
Mr. Wertis MADE the MOTION to approve the resolution for subdivision, and Ms. Schneider
SECONDED the MOTION as follows:
WHEREAS:
1. The Town of Ulysses adopted zoning regulations in Local Law No. 3 of 2013 include
Article XXI – Land Subdivision Regulations, Section 21.3 establishing criteria for Subdivision
Procedures; and
2. The proposed Subdivision is located east of Dubois Rd, north and south of Glenwood
Heights Rd, Tax Parcel Number 32.-1-12.2, R1 and R2 Districts; Charles and Mary Tutton,
owners; and
3. The lots created by the proposed Subdivision meet the zoning requirements; and
4. This is an Unlisted Action for which the Town of Ulysses Planning Board, on February
20, 2018, has made a negative determination of environmental significance with respect to this
project, after having reviewed and accepted as adequate a Short Environmental Assessment
Form Parts 1, 2 and 3; and
5. The Planning Board, at a Public Hearing on March 6, 2018, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate the maps entitled, “Map of Survey Parcel ‘A’ of Lands of Charles R. and Mary E.
Tutton, Town of Ulysses, Tompkins County, New York,” dated January 15, 2018, “Map of
Survey Parcel ‘B’ of Lands of Charles R. and Mary E. Tutton, Town of Ulysses, Tompkins
County, New York,” dated January 8, 2018, “Map of Survey Parcel ‘C’ of Lands of Charles R.
and Mary E. Tutton, Town of Ulysses, Tompkins County, New York,” dated January 16, 2018,
and “Map of Survey Parcel ‘D’ of Lands of Charles R. and Mary E. Tutton, Town of Ulysses,
Tompkins County, New York,” dated January 25, 2018 by Robert S. Russler Jr, licensed land
surveyor, and other application materials; and
6. Zoning Law Sections 212-142E(1)(a) and 212-142W allow the Planning Board to waive
subdivision requirements, where it finds that, due to special circumstances of a particular plat,
the provision of certain required improvements is not requisite to the interest of the public health,
safety and general welfare or is inappropriate because of lack of connecting facility adjacent or
in proximity to the proposed subdivision; and
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7. The Town of Ulysses Planning Board has given due consideration to all information and
comments in conducting the Subdivision Review;
THEREFORE IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED,
1. That the Town of Ulysses Planning Board hereby waives certain requirements for
Preliminary and Final Subdivision Approval, as shown on the Subdivision Checklist, having
determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in neither a significant
alteration of the purpose of subdivision control nor the policies enunciated or implied by the
Town Board; and
2. That the Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses hereby approves the Subdivision, as
shown on the map entitled, “Map of Survey Parcel ‘A’ of Lands of Charles R. and Mary E.
Tutton, Town of Ulysses, Tompkins County, New York,” dated January 15, 2018, “Map of
Survey Parcel ‘B’ of Lands of Charles R. and Mary E. Tutton, Town of Ulysses, Tompkins
County, New York,” dated January 8, 2018, “Map of Survey Parcel ‘C’ of Lands of Charles R.
and Mary E. Tutton, Town of Ulysses, Tompkins County, New York,” dated January 16, 2018,
and “Map of Survey Parcel ‘D’ of Lands of Charles R. and Mary E. Tutton, Town of Ulysses,
Tompkins County, New York,” dated January 25, 2018 by Robert S. Russler Jr, licensed land
surveyor.
The vote was as follows:
Mr. Blake AYE
Mr. LeWalter AYE
Ms. Schneider AYE
Mr. Wertis AYE
Result: Resolution passes
The Tuttons left the meeting at 7:05 p.m.
Modification to Site Plan: On October 3, 2017, the Planning Board approved the Site Plan for
Inn at Taughannock site development for a level lawn with gardens and patios. The project
included the construction of retaining walls, stone fence walls, grading/filling, reconfiguration of
the patio/stairway on the south side of the Inn, landscaping and a stormwater system. The project
components remain the same but are slightly shifted and modified, and a dumpster enclosure
north of the Inn is proposed.
On October 18, 2016, the Planning Board approved an addition to the north side of the Inn. A
modification proposes the addition of a porch and third floor to ground level egress stairs to the
previously approved walk-in cooler removal, construction of a one-story storage area with full
basement and roof deck. The total gross area of the project is 1,767 +/- square feet.
The property is located at 2030 Gorge Rd, Tax Parcel Number 14.-1-11, B1-Business District.
TFI LANDCO, LLC, owner; Carl Mazzocone, contact for owner; Jason Demarest, architect.
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Mr. Demarest walked through the previously approved site plan before moving on to the final
iteration, which now has several changes from the original plan, including, among others,
retaining half of the existing stone wall, pushing further down the property slope toward route
89, a new structure to the north of the property, and a curb cut onto Gorge Road.
Ms. Schneider said the current plan is much different from what the Planning Board has seen
before, and some members saw this plan only yesterday. She said she needed more time to think
the plan through since it is not clear what the applicant has or has not changed from the
previously approved site plan. Addressing the slope and the retaining wall, Ms. Schneider asked
if the applicant was planning to put in fill to change the grade. Mr. Demarest said yes; Mr.
Mazzocone would like to have a vineyard element between two retaining walls. Do you have a
stormwater plan to take into account the new structure on the property’s northside? Ms.
Schneider asked. Mr. Demarest said the new kitchen and dining area would have a pipe to
convey storm water to the new system. He also said the new kitchen would tie into the existing
footer drains. He noted the gravel drive and natural gravel characteristics of the terrain,
suggesting run-off would naturally infiltrate off the property. But these are two areas of new
impervious surface, Ms. Schneider said. In response, he referenced the new utility structure’s
small footprint and said to disregard the proposed driveway area and utility building if it is
complicating the current proposal. Addressing the patio area, he said existing footers can be used
to tie in the dining room addition to the new stormwater system, and the lawn area can handle a
downspout discharging surface. Mr. Mazzocone said the driveway is the only element he is not
sure about yet. These additional retaining walls are here because we want to have beautiful
landscaping, he said.
Explaining how this latest iteration came before the Planning Board, Mr. Blake said he met with
Ms. Kiley to review the changes. The applicant’s current proposal could have been done in-
house, without a Planning Board meeting, but given the public interest and discourse from
previous meetings, they opted to review this latest proposal at a formal meeting. Ms. Kiley said
all the previously approved October 2016 documents still stand, but she wanted to have the
newly updated site plan review as part of the record.
Mr. LeWalter noted several characteristics that were much different from the previously
approved site plan, namely the driveway area and an additional entryway/exit onto Gorge Road
from the main patio area (referred to subsequently as a “plating area”). He expressed his
appreciation for what the applicant is trying to do, but this latest plan is throwing a wrench into
the process. We did not approve a roadway entryway off the patio, he said. Mr. Mazzocone said
the entryway is intended for food delivery for major events, since food will be made in the
kitchen and will have to be transported by box truck to the patio area. Mr. Demarest said the
substantive changes come down to two new, curvy retaining walls. Ms. Schneider noted the
added plating area, which was not on the previous site plan, and feels the Board is being
pressured to give its stamp of approval on a plan it has not fully reviewed.
Every delay costs us money, Mr. Mazzocone said. Weddings at the Inn are planned for August,
and the Inn intends to open April 1 for Easter. We worked hard to shrink the design by 25
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percent. Mr. Demarest requested the Planning Board address the grass path, and the applicants
will return to address other areas of concern, like the use of stone dust surface.
Resolution for site plan approval
Mr. Wertis MADE the MOTION to approve the site plan for revised development, and Mr.
LeWalter SECONDED the MOTION as follows:
WHEREAS:
1. This action consideration of a modification to the Site Plan approval for the Inn at
Taughannock site development for a level lawn with gardens and patios. The project, approved
on October 3, 2017, includes the construction of retaining walls, stone fence walls,
grading/filling, reconfiguration of the patio/stairway on the south side of the Inn, landscaping
and a stormwater system. The project components remain the same but are slightly shifted and
modified, and a dumpster enclosure north of the Inn is proposed. The property is located at 2030
Gorge Rd, Tax Parcel Number 14.-1-11, B1-Business District. TFI LANDCO, LLC, owner; Carl
Mazzocone, contact for owner; Jason Demarest,
architect; and
2. The previously approved project is an Unlisted Action for which the Planning Board made a
negative determination of environmental significance on October 3, 2017, and no further SEQR
review is required; and
3. The Planning Board, at a public meeting held on March 6, 2018, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate the Site Development sheets titled “Site Plan” (A1.00) by Jason K Demarest
Architecture, dated 02/27/18, “Dumpster Enclosure” (A1.01) by Jason K Demarest Architecture,
dated 02/28/18, in addition to materials referenced in the October 3, 2017 approval, and other
application materials submitted by the applicant;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses hereby waives certain requirements for Site
Plan Approval, having determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in
neither a significant alteration of the purpose of site plan control nor the policies enunciated or
implied by the Town; and
2. That the Town of Ulysses Planning Board approves site plan as shown on the following:
adequate the Site Development sheets titled “Site Plan” (A1.00) by Jason K Demarest
Architecture, dated 02/27/18, “Dumpster Enclosure” (A1.01) by Jason K Demarest Architecture,
dated 02/28/18, in addition to materials and conditions referenced in the October 3, 2017
approval.
The vote was as follows:
Mr. Blake AYE
Mr. LeWalter AYE
Ms. Schneider AYE
Mr. Wertis AYE
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Result: Resolution passes
Resolution for site plan approval
Mr. Blake MADE the MOTION to approve the site plan for the revised kitchen addition, and
Ms. Schneider SECONDED the MOTION as follows:
Resolution for site plan approval
WHEREAS:
1. This action is consideration of a modification to the Site Plan approval for an addition to the
north side of the Inn at Taughannock, located at 2030 Gorge Rd, Town of Ulysses Tax Parcel
Number 14.-4-11, B1-Business District. The proposed project adds a porch and third floor to
ground level egress stairs to the previously approved walk-in cooler removal, construction of a
one-story storage area with full basement and roof deck. The total gross area of the project is
1,767 +/- square feet. TFI LandCo, LLC, Owner; Carl Mazzocone, Contact; Jason Demarest,
Agent for Owner; and
2. The proposed project is a Type II action and not subject to review under SEQR; and
3. The Planning Board previously approved the addition on October 18, 2016 after holding a
public hearing on the project; and
4. The Planning Board, at a public meeting held on March 6, 2018, has reviewed and accepted as
adequate the Inn Renovations sheets titled “Cover Sheet and General Notes” (A0.01), “Kitchen
Addition Floorplans” (A1.11), and “Kitchen Addition Elevations & Sections (A2.10) by Jason K
Demarest Architecture dated 02/21/18, in addition to materials referenced in the October 18,
2016 approval, and other application materials submitted by the applicant;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:
1. That the Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses hereby waives certain requirements for Site
Plan Approval, having determined from the materials presented that such waiver will result in
neither a significant alteration of the purpose of site plan control nor the policies enunciated or
implied by the Town; and
2. That the Town of Ulysses Planning Board approves the revised site plan as shown on the
following: Inn Renovations sheets titled “Cover Sheet and General Notes” (A0.01), “Kitchen
Addition Floorplans” (A1.11), and “Kitchen Addition Elevations & Sections (A2.10) by Jason K
Demarest Architecture dated 02/21/18, in addition to materials referenced in the October 18,
2016 approval.
The vote was as follows:
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Mr. Blake AYE
Mr. LeWalter AYE
Ms. Schneider AYE
Mr. Wertis AYE
Result: Resolution passes
Ms. Schneider addressed the Board and the applicant, saying it was not right how this proposal
arrived before the full Planning Board. It arrived on Thursday; the office was closed on Friday
due to weather, which gave the Board just one day to review it. It was insufficient time, and the
Board felt pressured to make a decision. If this is done again, she said she will vote no. The
applicant has changed or revised plans numerous times, whereas proposals are usually clearly
defined. To say the Planning Board needs to approve this tonight is unfair and does not show
respect to the Board, which, she added, is made up of volunteers. Mr. Blake added both he and
Ms. Kiley spent time considering whether the current proposal warranted a full Planning Board
review.
Mr. Demarest circulated information pertaining to Inn signs.
He and Mr. Mazzocone left the meeting at 8:09 p.m.
Draft zoning discussion
A brief discussion ensued on the happenings from the last meeting of the Zoning Updates
Steering Committee. Mr. Wertis felt the Planning Board’s recommendation to gather sufficient
data to help inform the zoning process did not gain traction among ZUSC.
Planning Board minutes discussion
Mr. Wertis suggested that, considering the arrival of a new member, the Planning Board should
review Robert’s Rules concerning the approval of minutes. At the last ZUSC meeting, which Mr.
Wertis attended, certain changes were offered to the minutes by some ZUSC members.
Specifically, one member asked that a line be removed from the minutes. All the suggested
changes were then lumped together and voted on instead of addressing each change. Mr. Wertis
did not feel this was right. He circulated a document and asked the Planning Board to review the
overall rules for approving minutes and perhaps be prepared at the next meeting to make a
motion to incorporate additional language to Board policy.
Town Board Liaison Report
Mr. Goldman addressed the Moore property and a recent Town Board public hearing in which
several neighbors spoke in opposition to the proposed change in the Development District. He
felt it might have been better if the Planning Board had heard the public hearing. However, as
some Planning Board members expressed, there was no indication of public controversy
regarding the Moore property and seemingly no pressing need to hold a public hearing.
Summarizing the sentiment of concerned neighbors, Mr. Goldman said the public felt the Town
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was rewarding Moore’s 25 years of non-compliance by rewriting the zoning. Originally, they
were allowed to store five boats. Now, it is more like 100. That is a drastic violation of current
zoning, he said.
On March 20, the Town Board and Planning Board will hold a joint meeting to review the issue.
Mr. Goldman said the Town Board seeks to hand the Moore application back to the Planning
Board for further review. He acknowledged the larger issue of precedence for dealing with
zoning violations. For instance, if the Town grants the Moores new zoning, how will another
resident respond if he/she receives a zoning violation for a broken window? The public will see it
as the Town rewriting zoning around the non-compliance.
Ms. Kiley said there is no mechanism in place to alert the Town to agenda items, and emailing
neighbors and alerting them to specific agenda items is not realistic.
Further specifics of the Moore property were discussed.
Mr. Wertis MADE the MOTION to adjourn the meeting, and Ms. Schneider SECONDED the
MOTION.
Meeting adjourned at 8:29 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by Louis A. DiPietro II on March 16, 2018.