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February 21, 2024
Board of Zoning Appeals
Zoom Hybrid Meeting
Meeting Minutes
February 21, 2024
Approved: May 15, 2024
Board Members Present: Chair Stephen Morreale, Cheryl Thompson, David Tyler, Karen Meador
Board Members Absent: Andrew Hillman, Robert Howarth
Quorum Present
Applicants Present: Andrew Sciarabba, Corey Elmore, Hilary Elmore
Town Board Members Present: Rich Goldman
Town Staff Present: Niels Tygesen, Mollie Duell
Proceedings
Chair Morreale called the meeting to order at 7:03 PM at Town Hall.
Motion: Tyler motioned to appoint Meador as a voting member for the duration of the meeting;
Thompson seconded.
Vote: Thompson, aye; Tyler, aye; Chair Morreale, aye.
Motion Carried.
Approval of Past Meeting Minutes
Motion: Tyler motioned to approve the February 15, 2023 meeting minutes; Thompson seconded.
Vote: Thompson, aye; Tyler, aye; Chair Morreale, aye, Meador, abstain.
Motion Carried.
Motion: Tyler motioned to approve the September 6, 2023 meeting minutes; Thompson seconded.
Vote: Thompson, aye; Tyler, aye; Chair Morreale, aye; Meador, abstain.
Motion Carried.
Motion: Tyler motioned to approve the December 20, 2023 meeting minutes; Thompson seconded.
Vote: Thompson, aye; Tyler, aye; Chair Morreale, aye; Meador, abstain.
Motion Carried.
Privilege of the Floor
No members of the public addressed the Board pertaining to items not on the agenda.
New Business Items
A. VAR2401-01, Forevergreen Housing LLC Area Variance
The applicant and property owner, Forevergreen Housing LLC, has requested an area variance upon
appeal to fill a portion of a locally designated wetland. Under the Code of the Town of Ulysses (CTU)
212-124.B.5, soil disturbance by grading, stripping, mining or removal of soil, sand and gravel, and filling
or dumping is prohibited in wetland setback areas. Per CTU 212-29.N, wetlands in the A/R zone are
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required to a have a protective setback as defined in CTU 212- 124, and per CTU 212-124.B.3, the buffer
for locally designated wetlands in the A/R zone is 50 feet.
Chair Morreale confirmed that Tompkins County has verified that the locally designated wetland in
question was originally constructed as a stormwater pond. There is still a pond liner in place. To be a
wetland, this area should have characteristic wetland soils, wetland vegetation, and most of the
vegetation living in water. Due to the presence of the liner, the soils are not really wetland soils,
although there are cattails growing around the edge. Because the three criteria for a wetland are not
met, Chair Morreale expressed doubt that the wetland classification is correct.
Tygesen noted that the local wetland classification was made using aerial imagery only and offered to
share county emails regarding the stormwater features with the BZA. Tygesen explained that the local
wetland map should be a living document with adjustments made as new information is discovered. The
239 comment letter from Tompkins County Department of Planning and Sustainability stated that they
determined the action will have no significant county-wide or inter-community impact. In contrast, the
County’s 239 comment letter for the recent Jacksonville Park variance application strongly
recommended preservation of a buffer setback.
Tygesen also spoke about the US Army Corps of Engineers manual for wetland delineations, which
recommends that if hydrophytic vegetation were to no longer exist in human-made wetlands should
human-induced hydrology no longer exist, the area shouldn’t be considered a wetland. The existing
swale remains from the closed mini golf center, which was required to create a stormwater prevention
plan during site plan development. The locally designated wetland in question is not a state or federally
designated wetland.
Chair Morreale asked if the BZA should go by the county’s recommendation, noting that the BZA has the
authority to be more stringent if they believe that this is necessary.
Tyler asked what would happen in the case that the BZA decides the area is a wetland and the driveway
needs to be deconstructed. Chair Morreale explained that in scenarios when a variance was denied for
an existing construction, applicants were required to remove what was constructed.
Tygesen suggested tying consequences into a variance decision in such a scenario, adding that if a
variance is not approved for something that has already been constructed, an enforcement letter with
timelines would be sent to the property owner, followed by a remediation proposal sent to the Town
Board, who would decide the next steps.
Andy Sciarabba reviewed the history of the development of the stormwater pond and explained that he
worked on the development district proposal while he was previously working with TG Miller. The site
plan included the construction of the stormwater pond, mini golf course, and house. Sciarabba stated
that he still conducts annual inspections that are required to maintain the pond; maintenance includes
removing sediment and making repairs as needed. Sciarabba was unsure of what the guidelines were for
designating the area a local wetland.
Hillary Elmore stated that she was not involved with the planning of the site and had purchased the
property after completion; the site includes the mini golf course and remaining 15 acres where there is
now a nursery school. An additional 4.86 acres were also purchased and subdivided from the previous
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owners. The field behind the site and the newly constructed pole barn, which the driveway in question
leads to, are also Elmore’s property.
Sciarabba stated that the whole site drains to the highway after discharging from the swale.
Chair Morreale asked why there is increased runoff. Sciarabba explained that the addition of buildings
and gravel areas have increased the runoff, but the main reason is the general slope of the parcel, which
brings water toward Trumansburg Road.
Meador suggested that it sounds like there is more information supporting the area not being a wetland
and asked what the highest authority would be for this case. Chair Morreale explained that the BZA and
town may be more stringent than the county, but they cannot be less stringent.
Meador suggested that it would be unfairly punitive to designate the area as a wetland when it wasn’t
originally one, and the county saying it’s not a wetland after being the entity to originally make the
designation supports the removal of the local wetland classification.
Chair Morreale stated that he was familiar with the methodology used for the county wetland map,
which solely used aerial imagery.
Sciarabba noted that the stormwater area was a requirement in 2008 when the mini golf center was
built, and these regulations have become stricter over time.
Corey Elmore explained the layout of the site and why the location of the driveway is the only feasible
route. There is a septic system below the golf course. The field behind the pole barn will be farmed, but
this is the only way to access the field. Elmore noted that the field is being farmed to provide relief from
rising property taxes.
The BZA confirmed that they have reviewed the property during a previous subdivision proposal.
Thompson stated that she is leaning toward the area not being a wetland but has concerns about the
drainage system being compromised.
Sciarabba stated that he would have someone from TG Miller survey how much volume has been filled
and decide if the area should be expanded to accommodate increased rainfall.
Chair Morreale noted that it is beyond the jurisdiction of the BZA to verify if the stormwater retention
pond is still adequate.
Thompson asked if this would need to go to the Planning Board. Tygesen explained that the
modification would not be a site plan amendment, so Planning Board review would not be required.
Sciarabba stated that he believes the impact to the stormwater pond is not major, and corrective
adjustments can be made easily if needed. In an annual inspection a modification such as this might take
place.
Thompson asked who notified the Elmores of the issue. Tygesen stated that he had reached out to the
Elmores, who confirmed that they had been notified in an email. Chair Morreale explained that any
locally designated wetland requires a 50-foot buffer as stated by 212-124.B. If the BZA determines that
the area is not a wetland, no variance would be required and there would not be a code violation.
Tyler stated that he is comfortable with agreeing that this area is not a wetland.
Chair Morreale agreed that the area does not meet the criteria for being a wetland but stressed that if
he did disagree with the statement from the county, he would be stringent in upholding the