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February 20, 2024
Planning Board
Zoom Hybrid Meeting
Meeting Minutes
February 20, 2024
Approved: March 5, 2024
Board Members Present: Mo Klein, Linda Liddle, Bart Gragg, Karl Klankowski
Absent Board Members: Chair Pete Angie, Rebecca Schneider
Quorum Present
Applicants Present: Michael Hamilton, Rebecca Hamilton, Steve Terwilliger
Town Staff Present: Niels Tygesen, Mollie Duell
Proceedings
Vice Chair Linda Liddle called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM at Town Hall.
Motion: Gragg motioned to appoint Klankowski as a voting member for the duration of the meeting;
Klein seconded.
Vote: Gragg, aye; Liddle, aye; Klein, aye.
Motion Carried.
Approval of Agenda
Klein stated that the Kearl site plan review would be removed from the agenda at the request of the
applicant.
Motion: Klein motioned to approve the amended agenda; Gragg seconded.
Vote: Liddle, aye; Gragg, aye; Klein, aye; Klankowski, aye.
Motion Carried.
Approval of Past Minutes
Motion: Gragg motioned to approve the February 6 Planning Board meeting minutes as written; Klein
seconded.
Vote: Liddle, aye; Gragg, aye; Klein, aye; Klankowski, aye.
Motion Carried.
Privilege of the Floor
No members of the public addressed the Board pertaining to items not on the agenda.
New Business Items
MGSUB2401-01: Hamilton 2 Lot Land Division, Sketch Plat Review
The applicant and property owner, Michael & Rebecca Hamilton, applied for a two-lot cluster
subdivision for the subject site to subdivide the existing 18.67-acre lot into 2 lots. The A/R zone requires
a minimum lot area of 2 acres, 200 feet of lot depth, and 400 feet of lot width at the front lot line per
the Code of the Town of Ulysses (CTU) 212-29. The current parcel has approximately 654 feet in lot
width and one of the proposed lots will have 250 feet of lot width. CTU 212-142.4.D.7.f grants authority
to the Planning Board to deviate from the dimensional standards of CTU 212-29, including minimum lot
width, provided there is adequate lot area for the siting of on-site wells and on-site wastewater
treatment systems.
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February 20, 2024
Liddle asked the Planning Board to consider what further documentation will be needed for review,
noting the cluster subdivision process is novel.
Michael Hamilton explained that the preservation of the hay field is the reason that a cluster subdivision
is sought. Creating a flag would result in the only buildable area of the parcel being in the middle of
what is currently a hay field.
Klankowski suggested changing the setbacks from 12 to 15 feet, explaining that most zones in the town
have 15-foot property line setbacks. Hamilton replied that this could be changed easily.
Klein spoke about the extended requirements for the cluster subdivision application process and asked
why this is the best option, since typically cluster subdivisions are used for denser developments with
multiple new homes. Hamilton explained that the preservation of the hay field is the only reason for
pursuing a cluster subdivision.
Klein continued to read the four steps of developing a resource analysis as described in CTU 212-
142.4.D.
Liddle acknowledged that the goal of conserving the hay field justifies the cluster subdivision proposal
and fits with the comp plan. Liddle suggested having a soil analysis done for the farmland as part of the
resource analysis. Steve Terwilliger stated that the soil contains a high amount of clay. Klein explained
that a plat map should have more details, with labeling and measurements of all conservation areas, as
well as existing and future building locations.
The Planning Board agreed that the application is feasible, but more detail is needed.
Klankowski stated that he had driven by to view the parcel and could see that there appear to be
wetlands and a stream; Hamilton replied that this is accurate.
Liddle suggested including the woods as a conservation piece. Terwilliger stated that keeping the woods
is part of the plan.
Klein asked if it would be beneficial to go to the BZA for a variance. Tygesen referenced a past minor
subdivision on Dubois Rd that presented a similar issue and received approved variances. Tygesen
explained that applying for variances is a lengthier and costlier process for the applicants. Klankowski
noted that the BZA has rejected proposals that do not meet 30 foot setbacks, and a cluster subdivision
allows the Planning Board to decide what these regulations should be.
Hamilton noted that in addition to the hay fields there are some open pastures behind this area for
horses. There is also no intention to impact the woods, which is used for hunting.
Terwilliger asked if there would be any review by the county. Tygesen stated that there will be a 239
review.
Liddle asked if a septic system or well would be shared with the existing home; Hamilton responded no.
Klankowski asked if the driveway will be shared; Hamilton responded yes.
Klein noted that driveway, septic, and well details should also be on the map.
Klankowski noted that the lots do not have the width to meet code requirements, but they have plenty
of depth, which could be a reason for approval.
Discussion ensued over the upcoming meeting timeline.
Tygesen explained that there is an additional public hearing required for the cluster subdivision, while a
minor subdivision application usually requires only 1 hearing. There is a 3-step process for the cluster
application which entails the sketch plat submission, a preliminary submission, and then the final
submission. Notice in the mail and newspapers is also required. Normally more civil work is needed for
the cluster subdivision process, and while this will not be required for this proposal, code requirements
will still extend the timeline beyond the typical minor subdivision process. Another public hearing would
be required for any variance application.