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June 14, 2023
Comprehensive Plan Steering Committee
Zoom Hybrid Meeting
Meeting Minutes
June 14, 2023
Approved: July 5, 2023
Committee Members Present: Chair Ann DiPetta, Roxanne Marino, Elizabeth Weatherby, Rebecca
Schneider, Mo Klein, Alison Weaver, Rosemarie Hanson
Committee Members Absent: Diane Cohen, Katelin Olson, Tai Basilius
Other Town Staff Present: Town Planner Niels Tygesen, Mollie Duell
Members of the Public Present: Tim Fallon
Proceedings
Chair DiPetta called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm.
Approval of Agenda
Motion: Schneider made a motion to approve the agenda; Klein seconded.
Vote: Marino, aye; Weatherby, aye; Klein, aye; Schneider, aye; Weaver, aye; Chair DiPetta, aye.
Motion Carried.
Approval of Past Minutes
Motion: Schneider made a motion to approve the May 10th meeting minutes; Klein seconded.
Vote: Klein aye; Marino aye; Weatherby aye; Schneider, aye; Weaver, aye; Chair DiPetta aye.
Motion Carried.
Privilege of the Floor
Tim Fallon read a letter to the Committee sharing opinions about weaknesses from the previous plan’s
development process:
Ulysses Town Comprehensive Plan Committee,
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on your Committee work. First, thank you for your
willingness to serve. My thoughts are largely based on the previous Town Comprehensive Plan and
the turmoil felt by many residents. The "PLAN" seemingly became the focus for much of the Town
Board activity, a be all and end all unto itself, and seemingly full of personal agendas and
preferences. I would ask that you proceed with some sense of restraint so to speak. It is quite
amazing that a relatively small group can direct and assert so much direction.
Some issues with the previous Comprehensive Plan were surveys that were interpreted quite
differently than I, as a responder, could have imagined. For example, I recall a question 'Are you in
favor of zoning?' I answered YES because our experience was that the zoning process was
reasonable and flexible enough to work for the residents. I believe the Comp Plan Committee took a
YES to mean we wanted MORE zoning which was NOT the case. There were some real basic
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misunderstandings with the survey. Please phrase your surveys carefully, and please try to not let
agendas or biases form your decision making.
A particular water front group claimed to represent and speak for the majority of waterfront
residents. That was simply not the situation. When conversation with their leadership occurred,
early in the process, that expressed disagreement with that waterfront-group's position, the
arrogant reply was 'Well too bad, you better get on board because this (their agenda) is happening.'
The initial zoning that was proposed, based on the first Comprehensive Plan, was frustrating for
both the Town Board and the Residents. To hear that that plan provided a good foundation feels like
here we go again. I so hope we don't have to do that again. I know your task is huge, and again
thank you for your time and thoughtful deliberations.
Old Business Items
A. Work Plan
I. DEC Climate Smart Communities Grant
Tygesen updated the Committee on the status of the DEC Climate Smart Communities Grant, stating no
finalized information is available yet, but a revised work plan with changes will be determined.
Comments and recommendations will be gathered to present to the Town Board at a meeting in late
July.
II. Continued Committee Membership Outreach
Tygesen noted that there is 1 membership slot left, and lake shore representation is desired by the Town
Board, preferably a resident homeowner on the waterfront rather than a business owner. The
Committee will continue seeking an additional member.
New Business Items
A. Comprehensive Plans Elements, Goals, and Policies Comparisons
In preparation for this evening’s meeting, Tygesen collected comments from Committee members to
facilitate the beginning stages of plan development. The Committee was asked to read through
comprehensive plans from other municipalities. Members noted what they thought could be added or
improved, what is already strong, and what should be omitted or reduced in preparation for the
meeting.
To be Improved:
Schneider mentioned multiple CPSC Members agreed that action items were laid out better in other
plans, and organization throughout the Ulysses plan has room for improvement. Weatherby mentioned
recent comprehensive plans are more illustrative, using graphs, charts, and diagrams to visualize
information, while the 2009 Plan is very heavy in text. Chair DiPetta agreed with Schneider and
Weatherby, expressing a need for a clear timeline regarding action items, which Brockport’s plan
provides a good example of. Chair DiPetta also expressed interest in including interactive elements as
seen in other plans. Klein agreed, noting that technology improvements since 2009 should allow for new
features to be implemented, and some plans have included videos to present information.
Schneider liked the economic analysis in Corning’s plan, and noted Ulysses needs to branch out from
land use, which was a primary topic in the 2009 plan. Weatherby agreed that key focuses have changed
as new issues have emerged, and global issues have also expanded. Economics, housing, environment,
sustainability, and climate issues have grown considerably in the last decade. Weaver agreed that
business needs a greater focus, and the Town should consider what types of businesses are coming and
going, as well as what kind of business the Town wants to draw. Residents must travel into Ithaca or
Watkins for certain services that are missing or less accessible in Ulysses.
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Marino echoed Fallon’s earlier statement that wording must be considered carefully when developing
surveys and interpreting responses. Zoning is desired by many residents, but not necessarily an increase
rather than an adjustment. Maintaining a rural environment and open space is known to be highly
valued by current residents, but what exactly is being desired within this concept could be developed
further.
Schneider noted that Ulysses’ 2009 plan contains a significant amount of discussion regarding the
environment and compared the ecotourism challenges of Ulysses to Southampton while reviewing their
plan. Southampton thoroughly confronts the challenges of balancing the environment with the tourism
economy and understands the importance of maintaining natural resources while using them
sustainably. Southampton has also experienced similar zoning and variance situations as Ulysses.
Schneider stated the problems surrounding lack of affordable housing need to be improved while
considering how to preserve the environment.
Rose Hanson arrived at 6:22 pm. Hanson introduced herself as a new committee member whose role is
to act a liaison to the Village of Trumansburg. Hanson mentioned the County’s comprehensive plan and
expressed that coordination could be better between the Village of Trumansburg and Town of Ulysses.
Hanson noted she thought that development should happen where it already is taking place, but water
and sewer services are missing from areas such as Jacksonville. Hanson added that farming should be
preserved where it already is, and growth should be limited to areas that already have higher density.
Hanson continued to speak about the village and the goal of making the area more self-sustaining by
improving local services. While developing the plan’s structure, Hanson advised fellow Committee
members to think of the plan as a web, where many topics, such as sustainability, will coincide with each
other and be discussed repeatedly.
Marino stated that transportation options are an issue to be addressed. Alternate energy was not
discussed in depth previously, an issue that has also expanded significantly since 2009. Schneider noted
community identity is imperative, and mentioned different formats seen in other plans, like word clouds
and the “Aunt Sally postcard”, are a more creative format of sourcing data that could initiate more
participation.
Strengths in the Existing Plan:
Weatherby noted land use was previously covered well; Hanson mentioned that there has been
opposition to the preservation of land. Some famers have been dissatisfied with attempts to limit
development, since selling off land has been a common retirement plan in the farming community.
Marino expressed that finding the balance between what direction different residents would like to see
the Town take has been a long and continuous struggle. Marino mentioned the discussion of nodes in
the 2009 plan; Jacksonville and the Village of Trumansburg are nodes of development and the Town has
ideally wanted no extensive development taking place between these nodes. Recognizing youth and
recreation were strong in the previous plan and helped with strengthening community identity. History
was thoroughly discussed in the previous plan, but this section could be restructured.
Areas to Delete or Reduce:
Tygesen asked about elements that are problematic or should be omitted. Schneider noted history is
important to the town and should be part of the plan, but history sections should be reorganized to not
take up excessive valuable space. With technology improvements, linking to information online with
visuals, videos, and information would be better than having everything in the plan. Committee
members agreed that the history section is too dense.
Hanson stated that she was not a fan of the identity piece at the end of the plan and thought this section
seemed confused. Weatherby agreed, noting that there are too many photos. Klein mentioned his
experience in previously developing a plan in another state and suggested limiting reexamination of the
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2009 plan too much; so many things have changed and this could become tedious. Weaver noted she
likes the idea of starting over.
Other Elements to Add to the Plan:
Weatherby noted that Dryden’s plan thoroughly discussed viability of the agricultural community and
focused on the people while Ulysses focuses too much on land; the new plan should mention the human
component of farming and address various issues that farmers are facing, such as the rise in invasive
species, increased property taxes making land unaffordable to keep, and other complications farmers are
facing due to climate change. Hanson noted the average age of farmers is older now, around 58, and
keeping the practice of farming in the town is as big of an issue as preserving the land. Weatherby
shared concerns from citizens that the Town has shown appreciation for a “farm feel” more than farmers
and farming. Klein mentioned most people do not understand the full scope of what farmers are facing.
Hanson also mentioned that Potsdam’s plan had concerns listed along with thorough explanations of
what exactly is at stake if these issues aren’t solved. Marino agreed that the scope of each challenge
could be better explained in the new plan.
The Committee discussed the concept of buying land to preserve it; Southampton has a small tax for a
land acquisition fund. Marino noted that NYS allows this but the process needs to be looked into.
Klein mentioned various considerations in future planning such as cluster homes developments and
figuring out where to focus business developments. Route 96 is the main way to Ithaca and there are
businesses along the road, but whenever something is added to this route, traffic risks increase. Another
consideration of a busier main road is an increased need for services from the police and fire
departments, which could develop into further financial strains. Klein floated the idea of an industrial
park to organize business developments.
Chair DiPetta expressed uncertainty with how many surveys would be needed and what the community
should be asked. Tygesen noted many surveys can initiate burnout, and an attempt should be made to
make the format more appealing. Discussion ensued on survey methods to be developed. Chair DiPetta
suggested that asking for feedback from the youth could be fun. Klein suggested using QR codes in local
papers. Hanson suggested developing a better newsletter and list of emails.
Marino reminded the Committee that a portion of the town is not in the Trumansburg School District,
and the Committee must consider how to make everyone feel included. The Committee continued to
discuss places where community engagement could happen, including the Racker Center, Ulysses Library,
and the Farmer’s Market. Klein noted that feedback tends to be most active when it is already too late
and people are dissatisfied. Hanson suggested figuring out a system to provide periodic updates, and
Chair DiPetta added that communication is easier in 2023 than 2009.
Weatherby mentioned the Ag Committee is reforming, and specific issues should be discussed with
directly affected communities individually, rather than facing all problems all at once in a disorganized
meeting. Klein agreed that each group could be separately heard to pinpoint objectives and direct the
focus of discussions. Weaver noted that meeting attendance could improve when each community is
addressed individually.
Chair DiPetta asked about a social media plan; Weatherby noted that a Social Media policy is under
review by the Town Board.
B. Meeting Schedule
The Committee discussed member availability and tentative meeting dates. Future meeting dates were
scheduled for July 5 and August 2. The Committee may continue to follow a schedule of meeting on the
first Wednesday of each month.