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Home My WebLink About1991-1993 • • . I le .. 1 . ._ . , 1 ..., , ,_ , MICROFILMED • ... . .. . . Von for „o°�� :" ` I�0�, Thteiprises Qy i m . ! a Gva:u -. 7 9 S s Rdminittrarive Offuu•6838 Industrial Tarf,Rpat•Wath,7�jyw9'ork, 14810 Pi? or' (607)776.4146•fat(607)776.9366•Detnard9.Bums,7 ccutive9irector i • t i N. N. von for .,v- SzMi °C ,. • e is% 1,3. AWC E aterpases . -.,..,: ., , • , n , 9'°13 su�� Administrative Offices•68381ndustnafTarkRpad*Bask,�w%nrk14810 (607)776^4146*fax(607)776.9366*Bernard).!turns,Executive Director . RFESCRIPTION • L ,.... own ç Ulysses ,.. . • • • . . • .. . . . , , • . _If . ... •. 1.73b0446 .i. :. LI .. (c) ROLL NO . . , , .. DATE . - . HqC • MONTH/DAY/YEAR . SUPERVISOR: �• .. _ �. . ! a . t ,1, r CAMERA OPERATOR: lakthili ^.? Y' . . • • Inventory Worksheet . • r For Local Government Records • NOTE See accamoanyrng insmrctions before filling out this form t'f=' t.a n Gavemwnt Y I b. /, I e.Unit ': , 6^� I 12.a. Cpnta�person m A-A I ' :.y26 1 ' �. Record Genes Tula �yy"�,,,,, : " t•it B�i� Afrit. t 4, Varying Record Sanes Title I . S. Location a. Building 1 p.F1ooj I corn I d. Capin. or Shad i a Drawer or Boz a ,u /•.3, . 1 ar e. Date Span Arrangement ❑ Alohaoatrral 0 Numa"n" c"a��l11 ,rChronoiogical 1 From To I1 ❑ Alohanumenc 0 OthertSoecrty) J s/ t 3. Format f�,a. Bound Votums ❑ e. Plans and Drawing: Q Corrauter Cutout • •. 1 b. Fowlers or Loose Paaar Seedy: I Q I. Maps 1 rt c. Caro File 0 g. Comnutenzed Reams ❑I. ttieal Disk O Q j.Other d. Microform Specify: SoeG9y: -- I _. ! 9. CtherFormat? , 1 Yes p No 110. Other Copies? [f Yes &a it Total Quantity r7 : iWhat Format? IC.Ei Held by: cu. .;eat •_,.d i 12. Pecorc Still Being Create:0 es [1 No 113.Annual Aumulation 114. R MO Frecuenc/ , cu,feet 15. Taal or Essential? 1�4 Yes 0 No 116. Arcnrval? },6ys QNo I 1 T. Poor C onion?Eves No ' 11� ' ! le. Restrc:ea or Confident ialTQYes o I Source cr regulation: • / .l' 19. Zescnotian el Record Sanas A. 610Ce A-les 4,711#;(4, -------/ _ . .‘ , , mee-A# ditsfeilitowt.., 4 Ain „..ratel9 • :20. Pumose of Record / 121. Appraisal or any recomrnenaatian with comments: i t.22. SARA Scneoute hem No.or oesatptwn / L- 7 23. Record retention �f,f V%M k 12 =cal Copy/ , es QNo a. Total Retenuor��i�"'^ na e. In Office c. In Storage fr_.,e--- $ I25.Sample copy of record anacned? QYee Na 26a. Name of person donq inventory ` 4 . ap 28O.Date New York State Art:niws and Records Aamtnistratlon Local Government Raceme Bureau LGR&9(N1) r' t , . .,'.• .' .. �•t • rHE STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT File Information for ;. State Archives and Records Administration LocalCuverninentRecordServices Microfilming Paper Records -Albany, New York 12230 : r.Fe SCOPE: The information on this form, combined with the applicable Microfilm Production Guidelines, .•`• „- constitutes a technical specification for producing high quality microfilm. Local governments contracting with • .:,.;: a microfilm service bureau should attach whatever additional contracting documents your local government requires. A typical bid offering will, therefore, consist of at least four (41 items: 1. this File Information Form ".° 2. the Microfilm Production Guidelines 3. a SARA Microfilm Agreement 4. locally-required contracting materials Instructions for completing this form are on a separate sheet, titled Instructions for Completing File Information Form. I. NAME OF•LOCAL COVERN&Mt4 •-� 1. 7a-en 0 2. PREPAR Y IPnnt name! . L ! TELEPHONE NUMBER(Include Area Code) ..^'z..• � t� /• erg. 4,07 387 .� 16 . . 3. NAME OF R /�I� L S t .G Years 4 The retention schedule for these records is: S. fJActive Inactive 4 Is this record series ACTIVE or INACTIVE? 6. Order of Filming: The records in this series will be microfilmed in this existing order: .. A. Alphabetically 0 by personal name (last name first) ❑ by corporate name(business name) ❑ by another alphabetical order, (describe B. Numerically [0 by parcel number 0 by case number Q by personal identification number . ❑ by another numerical order, (describe . c. Chronologically 0 by year/month/day(yyyy/mm/dd) O by month/day/year(mMddlyy) 0 by another chronological order, (describes '1 tend — . By..0 Fenn a. by a COMBINATION of the above, or other factors. Describe the hierarchy of the records: E. in RANDOM order, requiring a separate index for document retrieval; this !ndex is usually computer•based ("Computer-Assisted Retrieval. CAR"). Describe the desired indexing system: 7. e' 4 Total number of DOCUMENTS % PERCENTAGE of documents that have information on both sides of the sheet B. (P,2 4 Total number of IMAGES • • • 8a. 4 Total number of ROLLS • (6mm miaotilm—office documents(divide total images by 2500) • 35mm microfilm—bound documents(divide total images by (000) •35mm microfilm—drawings(divide total images by 500) q 0 Number of images by which this record series INCREASES by each year 10. Condition of Documents: is. Size ....1.'74 • Length Width 4 LARGEST Document•6 / D, / • • Leng width 4 SMALLEST Document e. Age/Brittleness/Fasteners Years 4 AGE of paper(oldest) • E Yes ,J No 4 Edges of paper are FLAKING /A 0 oho 4 Percentage of the documents which have FASTENERS (staples,paper clips, etc.) e. Enclosure j Yes )No 4 Are documents in folders? M Yes No 4 Are documents bound? If Yn. pi Yes No 4 Can the books be disbound AiaS' • Type of bindImp 0 sewn (only) gla sewn and glued El drill post 0 comb 0 glued (only) ❑ring Qciamp °off ' • • twin re nal4 U. Lay of the paper lOfres % 4 Percentage of the documents which are FLAT . 4 Percentage of the documents which are ROLLED .• off.,..._........ % 4 Percentage of the documents which are FOLDED C. Color of the paper /fre % 4 Percentage of documents on WHITE PAPER % 4 Percentage of the documents on paper .._..._. % 4 Percentage of the documents on _ paper 0MIOCJI•COMM *r ._...._ % 4 Percentage of the documents on paper _'onxi„cowa, __ — % 4 Percentage of the documents on. paper . ,M{'L.C)la, 2. ._, __.._.__ % 4 Percentage of the documents on... _..... paper an cow, ___ _ % 4 Percentage of documents that are BLUEPRINT or PHOTOSTAT • i F. Imprint (More than one entry may be checked) - _,J handwritten only eJ printed/typed only a handwritten and printed J ink ��pencil :.1 carbon paper C. Color of imprint �� i 11. Document Preparation for Microfilming A. �( the Local Government 4 FILE ORGANIZATION shall be performed by(check one) J the microfilming vendor B. the Local Govemment . 4 PURGING shall be performed by (check one) J the microfilming vendor c }(.1 the Local Government « PREPPING the documents shall be performed by (check one) . J the microfilming vendor 12. Records Usage • ti • `� 4 Estimated ANNUAL number of people who use this record series B. '— 4 4 Monthly number of'look-ups" (reference or retrieval)C. From the date of document creation, most retrievals occur within J one week ❑ one month ,C1 one year J 2 -6 years a continued steady usage '•' o. The persons who physically handle the documents are: gii employees only • . 0 this department only tw! several departments 0 general public • .:_:- ..1%....;:c.“: . .. :.. : . w_ 0 other-Mesa/be) .•;a..:.%e. :r-. , .. -nth•vt»tso,•r::.r,,:,:c.. swwe 1• npleid • r '• ^1,+•'•'• .- .. ..I.. 1•i • Y'..: !ter . .. . .. .. „• e. The persons who make use or the documents are: employees only -- .J this department only a several departments • ..� general public J other (describe) ..„ , F. ./D "'"ma 4 How much time is normally necessary to retrieve a document? a. e. minutes 4 no,more than H. Does retrieving d ments entail any special problems? (If Yes, describe) J Yes ZJ No 4 Does one document have to be compared to another? If Yes, are the two documents •'•■•: L. j from the SAME record series? • J from DIFFERENT record series? I. 41 Yes _j No 4 Are the documents PHOTOCOPIED? K. cP5e _... 4 Approximately how many photocopies are produced on a monthly basis? 13. Microfilm Format A. The first-generation silver-gelatin (camera) film shall be (check one?'. $I 16mm roll microfilm J 35mm roll microfilm Warning: First generation silver-gelatin microfilm(camera film)shall not be jacketed 8. gj Yes J No 4 Is a second-generation silver gelation negative required? c• II Yes P No 4 Is a second-generation diazo(duplicate) required? If Yes, the duplicate shall be: Ya 16mm or 35mm roll microfilm • 2 4 Number of duplicates required • J loaded into 105mm x 148mm microfiche jackets 4 Number of duplicates required • loaded' into 105mm x 148mm microfiche jackets AND duplicated to unitized microfiche • • 4 Number of duplicates required • . - 14. Delivery Date: All paper records and completed microfilm shall be returned to the contracting local government not later than Additional Information: • —' DATE THIS FORM COMPLETED: . _L • • . . . . . . . TOWN OF ULYSSES ;:. 10 Elm Street P.O. Box 721 11 7}umansburg, New York 14886 607-387.5767 ARC ENTERPRISES 6338 INDUSTRIAL PARK ROAD BATH, NEW YORK 14810 REDUCTION RATIO: 321 ; FILM MANUFACTURER: Plod TYPE: 16 mm 100 ft - POYESTER EXPIRATION DATE: JUNE 1996 -, MICROFILM NEGATIVE BATCH NUMBER: 285-26 • WIWI°an °OmmX30.ff�m(10Ott i; JJN199s $7.a PET-125 ;[ i RWOOMIL HR 21 , 285-26 :i: . ' •i DECLARATION BY CAMERA OPERATOR Roll Number: 4,0 Series Title : c 1 \ l f,Are_a5 Agency : k Ou)n V. isSoS Subdivision : \ 1�L� L `s C cictce_ Starting point of series filmed on this roll : N101 .14-3 ( n 1C1-1 ( Ending point of series filmed on this roll : /5-41k—' eel of this series • Original microform: OPEN ROLL Reduction ratio: 32X Image Orientation: COMIC MODE These records have been filmed in the regular course of business. /' /J Signature of Camera Operator Date VAT.PRTR AT.ANWVMSRIP ._.._ Typed Name _ a. 2a_ a- t o- or Title • ., Declaration By Records Custodian Local Government Agency: TOWN OF ULYSSES • Records Series Title: IC•1 &X_ R \ In�,l_ _ r r.A5 Record Series Arrangement: \ ni, — l 993 Beginning Document: .Tha-r1 - (J • Rq • Access Restrictions: C' (pct GEV\ C,3 • This Is to certify that the microphotographs appearing on this roll of microfilm are accurate reproductions of the above-named records series , and were filmed from the best available documents, in the course of regular operations, following established New York State Archives and Records ministration microfilming guidelines. iwi4 �l•ar //— /-9+6 Signature of Rec ds C stodlan Date MARSHA L. GEORGIA Typed Name TOWN CLERK/RMO • Records Custodian Title I I S 0 • :•.• '• • • • • 4 • • • • • • - • . • .• • , • ,.„ .• , • . . • • • • , • • n. IMAGE EVALUATION 7. �� TEST TARGET (MT-3) //,O � • % �\ 0 4c• OHO 4,, co 4 - L. a.z �— � �2.2 :71; �d 11-18 I tilt "ill • -I.' IIIIII� III 1 1.25 11 1.4 I11° 150mm H 6" H , ea4.1). 0. 4 ilt+ % — irLE ci\ w 5 • • Methylene Blue Analysis 1 QN 1. x119 ''' Customer _Steuhen ARC _ . 6838 Industrial Park Road Address Bath. New York 14810 Contact Jacques Begin _ mow---L ^c c, j • Monlh�� ; . Telephone p (607 ) 776-4146 Year \C\C' • Your sample film strip has boon tested for archivr:! quality (residual thlosulfate concentration). Concentration of loss than(<)1Aug(micrograms)indicates archival quality,and greater than(>)1.4ug Indicates non-archival quality. 'e • Actual lest readings are provided below, as well as "pass/hall" check marks. Actual Meets ANSI Standard Does not meet ANSI Standard • - Concentration (<) 1.4ug (>) 1.4ug Lab Comments: • • • Dale _.l ' c ' Lab Manage a :0.. mow ARC ENTERPRISES "' *. Nicrograohics Work Order Farm Customer: TOWN OF ULYSSES Date: _ Billing Address: 10 °L.N ST, , P.O. BOX 7/1 TPT1AMANSBUl/G MY 14185 Department Suoervisor: MARSHA L. GEORGIA Dept. Code: Phone Number: 507-387-5757 20 =. : Delivery/ , Shipping Address: 10 ELM ST. , TRUMANSBURG, NY 1 885 ***.**fl**************WWWW.xe.**wt .x.w.a***** *** *****n************ * Records: • f� • Files subject to filming: �� iii ■ �', .' a0X Number of file bcxes: ,%��' � 1� 'v.. 0/e"'"'/ 1IAJu$t 3oxes 1abe1 ed: /ant' SStS — Ogee�,�I aili 7C/ j,rIcs Jol.1-�� Size of documents: One sided: ' Two sided: • • ` :'`1 �8 Filming Sequence: Alphabetical ; Numerical /a -0" Books subject to filming: le ,ts r '•tgS�'7 i sed7 � �� Number of••''books: %t Order of filming: - to ("3 �yb Size: S'4X i & ound;t/ 'Ma Unbound l — Computer fonts sub ' o fil • 4. Number o" nts (b' rs) : Unbursted: r of • ming: Document preparation required: _ Yes; ✓ No rs Special instructions: t ' 4 d i d a G a/ • . LAtet Sganizt) _ . Transport of records: k ARC; Customer. Disposal of records: ✓_ Return to customer Hand shred and dispose upon verification _ Hand shred and recycle upon verification • Micrographics Work Order Form, continued -2- Film Format: Planetary Camera Reduction ratio: 24X 25X 30X 32X ; 34x '' Rotary Camera Reduction ratio: 24X __ 48X _ Check orioinal and duplicate. Original Open roll OupTicate open roll ^_ Original M Cartridge Duplicate M Cartridge Jacketed Microfiche Oiazo duplicate white indexing color coded • •- _• titling required, example: Soecifyexactly how you would like your labels typed. INDEX • FRONT LABEL • • • . • • • INDEX TOP LABEL • • CATE OEFM. + moot Ho. ''Film to be used for duplicates: Oiazo —; Silver halide.__ Provided for your information are the State Archives and Record . Administration regulations for storing of mictofilmm.` Prd'per'storage is particularly critical for archival or permanent micrbfilm.. Steuben. is not responsible for improperly stored microfilm. • . r Customer S gnature 'bate M-17 •- PAE/,Jk 8-5-91, 1-92 SMM/jk • r ORIGINAL aa��.E�aa3a�E� .. . ....:' . • '4,sif,,,,e00. . . . . is • •. . , , , . 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(THESE PAGES MAY HAVE PRE-PRINTED NUMBERS BUT THEY ARE NOT USED) • B ;'1 , , , TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING January 8, 1991 9 Present: William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz, Carolyn Duddleston, Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby, :• Councilpeople; James Meeker, Highway Superintendent; Alex Rachun, Bldg. /Zoning; Paula Mount, Deputy Clerk. Others Present: Glen Chase, Jerry Perkins, Pete Meskill, Carl . Mann, Arles Robinson, David Auble, Dick Durling, Jim Seafuse, Steve Proctor-FreePress, Jim Mason, Linda Smith, Jim & Rita Brown. Mr. Hogan, Supervisor, called the Regular Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8:00PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United ;.: States of America . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes of the Regular Board Meeting of 12/11/90, moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mrs. Stover. Mr. Reitz indicated two revisions. . .pg. 3 para. 5 - eliminate Mr. Hogan and replace with 'the fact we' , and also on pg. 10 - under Board Members 'Mr. Hogan stated that the Town' . . .revised to read 'the Personnel Policy Committee of the Town had a meeting' . Hearing no further comments, the minutes were unanimously approved with these changes. Report - Trumansburo Fire Department S Richard Durling reported for the month of December 1990 (see report attached) . Report - Representative James Mason Mr. Mason stated that he had been reelected as Chairman of the County Board of Representatives for another year. Have - challenges ahead; State budget figures are starting to filter down and looks like we will have significant impacts on several different program areas ranging from highway to Medicaid. Could easily exceed one million dollars. Although the State says they won't raise taxes, when it reaches us, have no choice but to raise taxes . About every hundred thousand dollars increased expenditures translates to about 1% in property tax increases. Will be meeting with Joe Gerossi from the Office of Rural • Affairs; one thing want to talk with him about are State mandates . In process of establishing committee assignments for 1991 . . .biggest change will be that a Standing Committee on Solid Waste Management is to be established. Discussed closing of the landfill in 1991, cost of shipping recyclibles, and bailing station. Mr. Reitz asked about Sheriff coverage in Ulysses. Mr. Mason said he felt that the County had taken some exceptional effort in the past couple of years to improve coverage on the west side of the lake and explained some ways in which this had been done. What has happened are the number of large cases that require deputies to be pulled off road patrol and be on duty in the Court House to provide security. Would suggest that Mr. Reitz speak to Sheriff Guest. Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims *530-551 in the • Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting January 8, 1991 ;r amount of 036, 235. 53 for the month of December 1990 and Claims M1-24 in the amount of 015, 134. 52 for January 1991, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye ?' Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr. Reitz stated that he would request a year-end report when the yearly audit is conducted prior to January 20th . Supervisor's Financial Report Haven't received statements as yet, so no report. Hearing of Delegations and Individuals David Auble, co-developer with William Auble, distributed a hand- • out to the Board members. Made a plea to the Board regarding the passage of the annexation request by the Town. There is a need to go forward with this project in terms of trying to increase the tax base and improve. the revenue sources in the Town. By passage of the annexation request, we would be in a position to discuss obtaining the water and sewer from the Village and the passage of the annexation does not give a go-ahead on a project. . .project plans would have to be reviewed, all the controls would have to be in place before a final plan would be approved. Think this would be a step forward that would be a progressive move by the Town. Mr. Hogan asked if anyone had questions for Mr. Auble. . .Mr. Reitz suggested this should be brought up under Old Business 9D. Mr. Jerry Perkins stated that he would like to follow up on what David said. Is a member of the Village of Trumansburg Planning Board and believe the consensus of that board is that this would be a viable project. With State cut-backs, need help with revenues . Believe with the sub-division regulations that the Village has in place now, there is no way that it couldn't be done as a viable project; between David and Bill, they would do a nice project. When you have a person who is willing to come into the community, with the economy as it is now. . .and spend money, think it definitely deserves close scrutiny. Not only as a Planning Board member, but a resident of the community for over thirty years, need something here to help the tax base; would be good for the community, would create jobs, will stimulate the area, the more people shopping in the area will help the downtown area. . . just think it's a viable project all around and believe the Town Board should take the bull by the horns and do something about it. Mrs . Robinson asked if the Board was going to stay on this subject or do as Tom suggested? Mr . Hogan said she was able to address the Board at either and Mrs. Robinson asked Mr. Perkins . . . if the Planning Board for the Village was in favor of this annexation, then what happened. . .don't they [Village Trustees] listen to the Planning Board? Mr. Perkins said that's about it. Mrs . Robinson said the Village has already voted No, and if you people [Town Board] say Yes, then what happens? Mr. Meskill [Village Trustee] said to answer your question, if one • Board approves it and the other Board denies it, then it leaves the possibility for the Board that approved it, and/or the developer, to take the Board that denied it to Court. •1• J• • Town of Ulysses 3 • Regular Town Board Meeting January 0, 1991 w Mr. Perkins said why not go back to the Board that denied it and renegotiate it and save ourselves thousands of dollars in legal fees by going to Court . That won 't benefit anybody. • Mrs . Robinson asked why the Village is ao adamant about not letting anybody have any of their water and sewer? Mr. Perkins said that is THE question. . .don 't know why. Mr. Hogan said we have material regarding the procedures involved in annexation, and what is done. Believe it goes to arbitration. • OLD BUSINESS • i Water Survey - No report. Spruce Row • Mr. Reitz stated that he had contact Harry Weber, owner of Spruce Row Campsite. He was committed until January 15th. He is interested in meeting with the Board. Mrs . Robinson said it seems as if the Town Board is letting Mr. Weber jerk them around; • he's in violation of the Zoning Ordinance and can't understand what the problem is . Mr. Hogan said that on the advice of our Attorney, we have a couple of ways to go. Basically can't do anything until we get a map and received feed-back. Trying to resolve it in a manner that will be suitable for everyone concerned. Mrs. Robinson said there is a mobile home in the Town that should never have been there because the previous Town Board said they ; didn't want to make waves and that mobile home is there in violation of the Zoning Ordinance and how many times have we let things go in the Town that are in absolute violation and then the • Town Board sits back and says they don't want to make waves, don't want to spend any money. Mr. Hogan said they won't let this die, they are following up on it, and it will be straightened out one way or the other. Have too much money invested to drop. Auble Annexation Mr. Hogan said that he had met with William Auble and David Auble and they brought in a new set of plans. Asked if everyone had seen them and posted them on the wall . Basically they have done away with light industrial; pointed out small business buildings . Mr. Seafuse asked what the relevancy of the plans. . .thought the discussion was annexation not what is going on the property. Mr. David Auble agreed, but stated that there has been a concern about what is going to be done on that property and has been a negative factor in terms of going forward with the annexation; so even though the issues have to be treated separately, they do affect each other. Mr. Hogan said that when we received the packet requesting annexation, included in that packet was a document that said they would develop as follows, and a list of things that would be done there. . .that now has changed and feel that the Board should be aware of that change. Obviously the question is still one of annexation, and what happens there is a separate issue. Mr. Seafuse said that everything regarding plans is an irrelevant situation as to what you are voting on tonight, because all this will be answered at another time whether it is annexed or not. . .Mr. Meskill said if it is annexed this would all he answered by the Village Planning Board. Mr. Seafuse said that the plans don't have any relevancy to the annexation situation at tonight's meeting . . .Mr. Reitz said in the same concept, the Village's denial of the annexation indicated the possibility of a hog farm or agricultural use in the Village; they couldn't say -,. . C.: .. ... . . . I � ...:Ciil f�:, :. ..k 1 4 • Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting • January 8, 1991 that either. • Mr. Auble said they referred to the plans too, it is impossible to divorce these two concepts, but at the same time they have to be voted on separately. Mr. Hogan stated that he has spent a lot of time speaking to people in the community of all walks of life, about how they felt about this project. Tried to put those thoughts down and came up with a resolution as follows : _ y WHEREAS : the Town of Ulysses finds that the petition for annexation submitted by Mr. William J. Auble for the property situation in the Town of Ulysses, Tompkins County, New York and described as parcel 11-2-7. 1 and consisting of 38.56 acres of land, does comply with the technical provisions set forth in Article 17 of the General Municipal Law, and WHEREAS: after holding a public hearing on the issue and after careful review and deliberation by the Town Board, it is found that the annexation of the land is in the best interest of the - public for the following reasons: 1 . An increase in the tax base without a substantial investment by the municipality would help ease the tax burden for Village and Town residents. 2. The parcel proposed for annexation is adjacent to the Village of Trumansburg boundary providing a natural extension of the Village. 3. The commercial buildings proposed would provide services to the public as well as create many new jobs in the community. r.. 4. A long sought for solution to the problem of medium income housing for senior citizens could be realized with this development. . 5 . Water and sewer requirements for the development should not have an overwhelming impact on existing Village facilities. 6 . The provision of additional services in the area could help create more customers for business 's already in operation in the Village. • After reading the proposed resolution Mr. Hogan stated that he had asked people to write letters, talked to affluent people who I felt weren't too concerned about their taxes and they didn't rant things to change in the area; talked to folks who are working for a living in the area, the construction guys, truck drivers, etc. who are trying to make a living here. . .they said this tax thing is getting tough, it wouldn't h to have something that would help the tax base, it wouldn't hurt to create a few more jobs in the community; as far as killing downtown Trumansburg [Mrs . Robinson commented that it's already dead] , you aren't going to hurt Camels or the Rongo, the bank will stay there, and the Gem Shoppe. . .don't see a destruction of downtown Trumansburg. Only thing I can see is if you close the P&C will make it harder for the senior citizens, but if there is a need for another grocery store downtown, one will open up. In any case, those are my thoughts . Mrs. Robinson said that as far as taxes go, it isn't just the working people who are having a hard time, retired people are having a horrible time and we need something. We have so much property in the Town of Ulysses that is tax exempt. . .Taughannock Park, churches, the schools. Mr. Perkins said the elderly people, retirees are having a terrible time with taxes . . .don't know what they are going to do. Reached the point now, it's a shame when someone has lived in the community for forty or fifty years, they retire And this is where . .. Anna , .ar/ Town of Ulysses 5 r Regular Town Board Meeting January 8, 1991 they are going to spend their golden years and they can't live in their own home. . .that's sad, it's a sad situation. Mr. Reitz said that he assumes that Mr. Hogan will move this • resolution. . .Mr. Hogan said yes . . .Mr. Reitz said he will second the resolution. Mr. Reitz said that the P&C has been mentioned. . .think that in talking with the real estate manager for P&C from Syracuse, that by 1993, they intend that this store will not auffice. . .they have great intentions to move some place. Heard last night [Village Board Meeting) that the need for sewer services for sewer revenues by additional users would be beneficial to the Village. Can see a lot of positive things with the annexation of this . property. • Mrs . Robinson said she hasn't changed her mind about annexation, . but for now, in this time and place, annexation is the only •+ solution to this . Firmly believe that we can't go on (this is 'spot zoning' too, in a sense) and we have to come up with some . plan to bring all of these places . . .these little islands . . .into some kind of proximity with something. Mr. Hcgan said that at the last meeting several people who had applied for a Planning Board position were asked to serve on a sub-committee of the Planning Board to put together a Master Plan. They will be meeting soon. Mrs . Robinson said it has to go with the Village too, can't just be the Town. . .has to be a joint venture to make it work. - ® Mr. Hogan asked for further discussion, hearing none Mr. Hogan asked for a roll call vote. Mr. Weatherby Nay 1 Mrs . Stover Aye ?: Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Hogan Aye .. Adopted. Mr. Hogan announced that today he had received a call from Judge James E. Rice, who tendered his resignation. He turned 85, has had the flu and decided that it was time to resign. . .effective January 1, 1991 . Mr. Auble thanked the Board for their progressive resolution. Smoking Policy Mr. Hogan mentioned that after complaints regarding smoking in the building, the Board had put a 90 day freeze on smoking. Notv in the process of revising the Personnel Policy so need to determine a smoking policy for the Town. Mr. Reitz stated that he thought the Smoking Policy along with other policies of the Personnel Policy Committee would be presented to the Town Board as a package. Last time a vacation schedule was presented, this time a smoking policy. . .was hoping that the Committee would come with everything in place. Mr. Hogan said that he felt this was a sensitive issue and should be discussed by the Board. Mr. Reitz agreed that it is a sensitive issue, but think it is premature when there may be changes in the next couple of months. . .to send people out on the . sidewalk. . .would like to see something in writing. Mrs . Mount stated that since the Town Board had originally said no smoking • in the building that the Personnel Policy Committee thought that Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting ' January B, 1991 the Town Board should state what thoughts they had . Mr. Reitz moved to table this discussion until the Personnel Policy Committee establishes something in writing regarding a smoking policy, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Hogan said that committee is comprised of many smokers so you know what is going to happen. . .Mr. Reitz said then it will be discussed at that time. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Nay • Mr. Weatherby Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Approved. Reinvesting Reserve Funds Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Meeker if he anticipated anything major coming up in highway reserve and Mr. Meeker said a loader. Nothing for three months and would be about *75,000. Will reinvest until needed. Other reserve accounts will know about when the bank statements arrive. r'. Mr. Reitz asked if the decision regarding reserve accounts and reinvesting will be done on January 19 at the Year-End Audit. . .adjourn the meeting until that time. • New Building Permit Fees Mr. Rachun said that the Zoning Fee was meant to be included in the Building Permit fees. A 015.00 fee will be charged for Zoning for any items not included in the other areas Cie: satellite dish antennae) . Would like to have this become effective February 1, 1991 . Mr. Reitz moved the fee schedule as submitted including the amendment of Zoning Fees of $15.00 as stated above, as being the fee schedule for the Town of Ulysses, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Adopted. • Judicial System As mentioned earlier, Justice James E. Rice retired effective • January 1, 1991 . Mr. Weatherby asked when a second justice would • be hired. Mr. Reitz said it should be immediate, as soon as the Town Clerk notifies Audit/Control and others, then we should advertise the position. The next opportunity for Justice school and the examination will be in New York City at the Assoc. of Town's Annual meeting in February. Mr. Hogan said he has the resignation in writing as of today. Mr. Reitz suggested advertising this vacancy immediately, requesting letters of intent/interest by February 1, 1991 and then the Board have a Special Meeting on February 2, 1991 . Mr. Hogan also stated that there will be a joint meeting with the Village on January 16th and at that time will meet with Roger Rector and Christine Springer regarding their benefits, etc. This meeting will start at 6:45PM. • 4 i .l. •1� Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board Meeting January 8, 1991 • Mr . Reitz moved a Resolution of Appreciation for James Rice for his years of service and hopefully he has a long and happy retirement from the Ulysses Town Board, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted. Secretary Planning Board/ZBA Mr. Hogan mentioned there are five application for the Planning Board/ZBA secretary . Asked when the Board would like to interview and Mrs. Duddleston pointed out that the Board seta the salaries but the Planning Board and ZBA chairmen should do the interviewing and make a recommendation to the Town Board to appoint. Mr. Hogan said the going rate at the County level for this type of position is $6. 50 an hour. Mr. Reitz said that should be the minimum salary we set. . .could increase with experience. Mrs. Stover asked if this secretary could be used by the Master Plan Committee and was determined, Yes, since that is a sub-committee of the Planning Board. Mr. Hogan will contact the chairmen and make arrangements for them to interview. NEW BUSINESS Appointments Mr. Hogan said that the Supervisor's Appointments are as follows: Bookkeeper: Jeanne Vanderbilt; Town Historian: Ester Northrup; Deputy Supervisor: Carolyn Duddleston; Chair. Highway Committee: Bob Weatherby; Chair. Bldg. /Maintenance: William Hogan; Liaison Ulysses Library: Tom Reitz; Liaison from Town to Village Board: Tom Reitz; Chair. Recycling Committee: Catherine Stover. Mr. Hogan stated that the Planning Board Chair is vacant and also a member of that Board. Mr. Reitz asked how these vacancies should be handled. . .advertise all vacancies? Mrs. Duddleston said she felt that to advertise all at one time. Mr. Reitz said there is also going to be a vacant seat on ZBA. Discussion took place regarding filling vacancies . Mr. Reitz moved that the Town Board appoint David Tyler as Chairman of the Planning Board, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion as follows: Resolved that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint the following: Zoning Officer: Alex Rachun; Deputy Zoning Officer: John- Fahs; Bldg. Inspector: Alex Rachun; Fire Inspector: Doug Austic; Chair. Planning Board: David Tyler; Chair. ZBA: Vacant & one seat vacant; Rep. Env. Mngt. Council : Roxanne Marino; Rep. Human Ser. Coalition: Aileen Beers; Rep. Assess. Review Bd. : Pat Stevenson & one vacancy; Election Custodians: Keith Northrup & Robert Bennett; Town Cleaner: Kim Fitchpatriok; Rep. United Way: Donald Shardlow; Rep. Co. Plan. Bd. : Tom Reitz; Rep. Co. Youth Bd. : 1r Town of Ulysses 8 :,�.. Regular Town Board Meeting January 8, 1991 • Vacant; Rep. Ulysses Youth: Vacant; Rep. Cable TV: Vacant; Liaison SPCA: Carolyn Duddleston; Liaison Town/Village Youth: Tom Reitz; Town Attorney: Vacant. Moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Discussion ensued regarding advertising the vacant positions . Decided that all would be advertised at one time. . .an advertisement for Town Attorney will be separate. Hearing no further discussion, Mr. Hogan asked for the vote. t,. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Salaries/Wages Mr. Hogan entertained the following: RESOLVED: that the Senior Justice assume major responsibility for the Town of Ulysses Court and that Justice to be Roger Rector and receive $7,000. per year for those duties; and that the appointed Justice is to cover for the Senior Justice and handle other responsibilities as needed and receive 84,000. per year and that Justice to be appointed with a term expiring 12/31/91 . Moved by Mrs. Duddleaton, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleaton Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr. Hogan entertained the following: • RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approve salaries and wages as follows: 1 . ELECTED TOWN OFFICIALS (yearly salary) a. Supervisor $5, 622.85 b. Councilpeople 82,530 .75 each (4) c. Justices: Senior $7, 000.00 Appointed $4,000.00 d. Town Clerk $21,773.43 e. High. Super. $29,506 . 32 f. Rec. of Taxes $3, 000.00 2. APPOINTED OFFICIALS (as stated) a. Deputy Town Clerk $8. 03/hr. b. Deputy Supervisor 5 .89/hr. c. Zoning Officer 88, 586.75/yr. d. Deputy Zon. Officer 8 .03/hr. e. Bldg. Inspector 88, 586.75/yr. f. Bldg. Insp. Clk. $841 .02/yr g. Bookkeeper $6, 010.51/yr. h. Historian $350. /yr. i. Justice Clerk 8.03/hr. Deputy Just. Clk. $6.42/hr. j . Fire Inspector $10.70/hr. k. Cleaner 85. 90/hr. 1 . Office Assist. 86. 50/hr. m. Recycling Drop-off Super. $6 .00/hr. Moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. i .. r jr• 7,; .. 01.A tt. .t Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Town Board Meeting January 0, 1991 c iy Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mra. Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye •:r:; Approved . \ 1' Meeting Schedules Mr. Hogan entertained the following, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded • by Mrs . Duddleston: RESOLVED: that the Regular Meetings of the Ulysses Town Board shall be held on the second Tuesday of each month. All meetings shall commence at B:00PM at Ulysses Town Hall, 10 Elm St. , le Trumanaburg, NY: review of claims shall start at 7:45PM and shall be open to the public. FURTHER RESOLVED: that all local news media be notified of the foregoing schedule and the same shall be posted in accordance with the open meetings law. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Authorizations Mr . Hogan entertained the following, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston: RESOLVED, that a mileage rate of 6 .27.5 per mile be paid to Town officials and Employees conducting official Town Business when driving their private vehicles . RESOLVED, that the Highway Superintendent be authorized to incur expenses not exceeding $3,000. for repairs and maintenance of highway equipment. RESOLVED, that the Chairman of Building and Maintenance be authorized to incur expenses not exceeding $1,000. for emergency maintenance and repairs. RESOLVED, that undertaking for Town officials are hereby approved as follows : a . Clerk $5000. b. Justice 4000. c. Deputy Clerk/ Justice Clerk 4000. d. Receiver of Taxes 1032507. • e. Supervisor/Depty. 50000. f. Zoning/Bldg. Insp. 4000. g. Fire Inapt. 4000. h. Highway Super. 4000. RESOLVED, that in lieu of the report required by Town Law Sec. 29 ( 10) , the Supervisor be and he hereby is authorized to submit to the Town Clerk a copy of his annual report to the State Comptroller and that the Town Clerk shall cause a summary thereof to be published in accordance with law. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mra . Duddleston Aye • n Town of Ulysses 10 Regular Town Board Meeting January 8, 1991 Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved . Designations Mr. Hogan entertained the following, moved by Mrs. Duddleston, • seconded by Mr. Weatherby: RESOLVED, that the Ithaca Journal and the Trumansburg Free Press be and they are hereby designated as the Official Town Publications. RESOLVED, that the Tompkins County Trust Company is designated as the depository in which the Supervisor, Clerk, Receiver of Taxes, Justices and Inspectors by virtue of their offices, shall deposit all money coming into their hands. FURTHER RESOLVED, that Town investments can be made at other banks as outlined in the Town Investment Policy. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Ays - Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • . Approved. Resolutions - Assoc. of Towns Meeting Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston that Roger Rector be appointed the delegate from the Town of Ulysses at the Annual Meeting of the Association of Towns in NYC, and the Town agrees to pay any reasonable expenses incurred. Also that the Town Board table voting on the Resolutions for the Assoc. of Towns Meeting until the February 12th Town Board Meeting. Mr. Hogan Aye • Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Reports Town Clerk - Mrs . Mount reported that for the month of December 1990 the total monthly fees collected were $732.25 of which $579. 33 was turned over to the Supervisor. Highway Superintendent - Mr. Meeker reported that they had plowed and salted as needed. Finished the shoulder project on Colegrove and Rabbit Run Roads; bridge project is all done except for the guardrails. The bridge is open and usable. Dug out dirt at the recycling site at the Fairgrounds and filled in the area with stone. Working on trucks for inspections. Mr. Mann commended Mr. Meeker on the fine condition the roads in the Town of Ulysses are, even following a large snow storm. Mrs . Stover asked if anything had been heard regarding lighting on RT 96. . .Mr. Meeker said Fred Grout is waiting to hear from the State; should be anytime now. Zoning/Building Inspector - Mr. Rachun gave a preliminary year- end report. Had 21 single family residences, total construction • $2, 395, 000. , up per unit 8114,000. Had 22 additions and alterations. Had 17 misc. permits issued for garages, etc. Issued more permits in 1990 than any year since he started and . ;} .:., ? .: r.r: :,•..:, , "; . .. , '•' . •. ,. »'fr.. . :,+ ;-. , _.ri. ,;r 19 . r Town of Ulysses 11 6 'i Regular Town Board Meeting January 8, 1991 that was 64 permits, total construction costs 02,814,000. Mr. . Rachun compared figures to other years. (see report on file) For the month of January had one start, about 065, 000. Board Members Mr. Reitz mentioned that a Village property that may be built •;• includes the Town owned bridge at the bottom of Gregg Street. Should be aware that the Joint Meeting on January 16th. . .Village Police Chief will be making a request regarding coverage. We are in a difficult position because of location. Discussion took • place regarding coverage, expense, etc. • Mrs . Stover mentioned that the Recycling Center has been very successful. Also, Master Plan Committee will be meeting Thursday • • January 10, 1991 at Glen Applebee's home. Mrs . Duddleston mentioned the letter from Kathy West regarding ' the tax collector. Felt it was unnecessary and that a response should be sent. Mr. Hogan said he will call Kathy West. Only . thing that he was uncomfortable was the part about the hours. . .has had complaints from people that they can't pay their taxes during normal office hours . Something should be done about that. Mr. Reitz said that as a Board we should consider putting it on a public referendum this November. Mr. Hogan asked who would like to research getting a referendum together. Mr. Reitz said that has to be done through an attorney I and suggested waiting until we have our attorney. Could be done effective at the end of the current tax collector's elected term. Correspondence 4 ;-- Mr. Hogan mentioned that he had correspondence from the following: Kathy West/Budget & Finance (already discussed) ; Tompkins County Planning Board; DOT regarding CHIPS money; letter of resignation from Judge Rice. . 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N a) r• 1 a r r N r O N a N r r N 10 O� N `' O a7 •O C C G ca C d Ye E E 2 `-° co O aa)) w 0 =a,i r t v • Q > c 2 Q W a aci 2 = 0 - 0 c Q u '= S N } u) Q a e c e T c . 2 of i3 m gZ 7 LL c [L cc Lu a = O 0 C H C a cc N 4.. a) L 0 , 4 Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg Joint Meeting January 16, 1991 Present : Mayor .Tom Bennett, Village Trustees: Peter Meskill, Susan Perkins, Karl Zylich; William Hogan, Supervisor; Town Board Members: Catherine Stover, Tom Reitz , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby. Citizens: Carl Mann, Glenn Chase, Jerry Perkins, Alex Rechun, Dave Auble, Chris Springer, Court Clerk; Judge Roger Rector, Chief Thomas Ferretti, Steve Proctor, Free Press; Mr. Hogan opened the meeting at 6:53 PM Court System: Mr. Hogan stated that Roger Rector wanted to be present regarding space for the court system. Some of the items • discussed at the last Joint meeting were: leasing, terms, equipment, furniture and budget assistance. Mr. Hogan asked the Village Board if they had talked about leasing and space available. Mayor Bennett said some ideas were: leaving where • they are now, renovate court room, enclose porch-way in front • dooh, add on to end of building. Mayor Bennett asked Judge Rector what his feelings were. Judge Rector stated it would be more effective if they were together as one separate unit or area. Regarding building on an • addition, Judge Rector said if the Village were to build an addition, the Town could also build an addition and leasing would not be a problem. He stated the space now is not sufficient for both courts, he would like to see a decision soon. Mr. Reitz asked Judge Rector about using the room upstairs (conference room) regarding handicap accessibility. Judge Rector didn' t think this would be a problem, they have never had anyone physically handicapped. Mr. Reitz asked if this room (conference) was used often. Mayor Bennett stated the commissioner use this room (tree commission, planning board) . Trustee Meskill would like to see this room not use because of accessibility and noise overhead from the Clerk's office. Mr. Hogan felt this was the best way, without additional cost. Mr. Reitz stated the west wing would be isolated away from the rest of it and be advantageous. Trustee Meskill he reviewed remodeling the space in the court room; remove the two bathrooms and remodel and install a single bathroom where the Janitor' s closet area is now at a cost of in the area of $5,000. 00 plus floor covering. Adding an addition (24x30' , 24x32' ) to the present room would cost around $35,000; the present bathroom would be used, and the entrance would not change. • V Zl There was discussion regarding handicap accessibility. Carl Mann stated that the laws regarding accessibility can not be ignored. Mr. Reitz suggested the clerk be downstairs and Judge upstairs. Judge Rector would prefer hewing the offices together. • The upstairs would be an ideal situation square footage wise for both offices. Discussion ensued regarding the space upstairs and whether it was handicapped accessible. A suggestion was that the Judge could meet downstairs if a person was handicapped. Chief Ferretti stated in fifteen years he has not had that many handicapped people. Agrees that the Judge could come downstairs. • Mayor Bennett asked if the Village offered space to the • court system, would the Town have room for our fire code inspectors and building inspectors? Mr. Hogan said yes, but he wasn' t sure Just where they would be. Judge Rector again stated the hallway, office and conference room is what he would prefer. Chris Springer, Court Clerk, stated she doesn' t have a • preference, but likes the suggestion of the court room area- removing the bathrooms etc. She feels there would be more wall space and floor area. Mr. Reitz suggested sectioning off the court room. Trustee Meskill stated space would be taken from the meeting room (court room) ; and it wouldn' t be secure from the public. Mr. Reitz asked about sick time and vacation time that Chris Springer may have. Chris stated she has used her vacation time, and will be using any sick time she has. Mayor Bennett suggested he could move downstairs, but there would be a problem giving up the conference room which is used by committees for meetings. It was suggested the Village could meet at the Town Office if necessary. • Chris was asked how many people come in to her office; she stated some days 7-8 people may come in. After further discussion it was decided to meet on January 31st at the Village Office at 6:45 PM to discuss and resolve the court room space. Recycling: Catherine Stover reported that the hours should not be shorten up. Marian is taking in between 150-160 people every week. Mayor Bennett reported 65 tons of recycle has been handled. Additional gravel has been token care of. It needs to be raked off . Dumpsters need to be a little closer. The county does not have a back up person; it is up to us to have a back up person. • It was suggested that Marian be asked if she knows of a backup person. The Town will take care of finding a back up person. V t • • Mrs. Stover stated they have one " time sign" and but she trying to get the county to put another sign on the Pence. Mr. Hogan reported that he has spoken to the Cooperative Extension regarding a composting demonstration. They were talking about using the fairgrounds or the Cayuga Nature Center. Mr. Reitz suggested a Town/Village composting project at the fairgrounds. Mayor Bennett suggested that something be put in writing and he would present it to the fair board. Shur-Save: Mr. Hogan reported Jim Meeker had discussed with Fred Grout, NYS Department of Transportation regarding additional lighting, traffic speed, and passing lane. A report has not been presented, it is still pending. • Police Protection Outside Village: Mr. Hogan spoke with Jim Mason regarding the Sheriff Department ; The county is suppose to providing protection for people outside the village. The protection is very slim. Could some kind of compensation plan be worked out for the village police? Mr. Mason stated they had • discussed this before but nothing came of it. The Sheriff Department has asked Chief Ferretti to go outside the village but the county assumes all liability for any instance. Mr. Reitz asked Chief Ferretti to elaborate on his proposal. Chief Ferretti stated he has serving the town for 14-15 years but he would like permission to give a ticket and write up a report. Example of this is if a minor accident happens outside the village, it could turn into a serious accident by the time the sheriff department shows up. The area outside the village is growing and he would like permission if something does come up and his department is available. Right now if he is asked by the Sheriff Department to • go out on a call he does all the work; the Sheriff Department shows up and takes over. Ms. Perkins asked if he is generally speaking of the commercial areas just outside the village limits; Seneca Line and Halseyville area. Chief Ferretti stated yes. Mr. Hogan felt that the Town is paying to have the Sheriff Department do their job therefore they (Sheriff Department) should be responding to calls. After some discussion Mr. Reitz stated that we have a new County Sheriff , and these needs should be made to him and invite him to come to a meeting. Ms. Perkins asked the Chief how many calls he gets outside the village limits. The Chief estimated between 12-20 a month. • • s '• ,• Mr. Reitz stated he supports the proposal but would like to table for six months; talk more with the Sheriff Department . Mayor Bennett stated it is legal he had talked with the attorney; all that is needed is to pass a resolution and let the Sheriff Department and State Police know of the decision. Mr. Hogan stated he would like to talk to the town attorney and Sheriff Department and table for six months. Mr. Reitz presented a MOTION, seconded by Mr. Weatherby to table proposal until July 1, 1991. Vote: Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Hogan nay Mrs. Duddleston nay Auble Annexation: Mr. Hogan stated the Town of Ulysses had a decision of 4-1 in favor of annexation. The town attorney has written a detailed letter of what the next step would be for the town. The town will meeting Saturday morning at 8:00 to see what they will be doing. Mr. Hogan stated the village needs to file an official order, otherwise the annexation is automatic. The papers must be certified and filed by January 27, 1991. Mr. Reitz stated that in tle attorney' s letter, if the village voted not to annex, and the town voted to annex, and nothing further happened then the annexation would not take place; the law does provide that the board that does favor annexation can begin a lawsuit called Article 78 proceeding asking the Appellate Division of the State Supreme Court to determine if the annexation is in the overall public interest, the cost be borne by the entity which brought the lawsuit. • Trustee Meskill asked if the town has 30 days from their decision to take the village to court. Mr. Reitz answered yes. Mr. Reitz stated that the proceedings could be discussed further at the January 31st meeting. Mr. Reitz asked if the village was interested in pursuing this without a lawsuit, if the village is interested in offering some ligating features; the village would consider a single user water district. Trustee Zylich asked it we could have a copy of their resolution regarding the decision of Article 78. Mr. Hogan stated they will file a copy in the village office and the county clerk's office. "• Mr. Reitz mentioned that the town planning board has several openings; and selected one for the vacancy ; the other applicants have formed a sub-committee of the planning board to look at master planning for the town. He suggested a member of the village planning board serve on this committee. Trustees Meskill suggested asking the chairman of the village planning board. Mayor Bennett asked Carl Mann if the Special Children Center builds a project in the village in which a house would be torn down and removed from the tax roll, is there anything the village • needs to do. Mr. Mann stated the Center will do what they want anyway, but they need. to file the necessary applications and forms. ' The Center is talking about the McGee property, which would house 15 disabled people. Hearing no further business, Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mayor Bennett to adjourn the meeting. Unanimously Approved. Meeting adjourned at 8:15 PM. Respectfully submitted, Sharon Housworth, Acting Clerk-Treasurer Village of Trumansburg • • • • it ill t; '.r . r. 1 TOWN OF ULYSSES ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING January 19, 1991 Present: William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk . Others Present: David Auble Mr. Hogan called the Adjourned Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8:30 AM. Auble Annexation . Mr. Hogan stated he had talked with Elizabeth Bixler regarding cost of filing an Article 78 . She told him she would have to travel to Albany, have nine copies printed and bound (containing all information regarding annexation request) . . .cost for this . would be approximately 32, 500. Mr. Hogan asked the Board if they wished to go ahead with filing an Article 78 . Mr. Reitz asked if the Village had filed their respective copies with the Town and County. Mrs . Georgia said the Village has - until January 27th to do so. If the Village doesn't file, it 's a mute issue. Mrs. Stover asked if we had filed and Mrs . Georgia said not as yet. We have 30 days to file the Article 78 based on January 27th or the date the Village files with us. Mr. Reitz added that as of the date it is filed the thirty day clock starts . ticking and we can then make a decision at that point to decide r if we wish to pursue this . . .otherwise it is premature. Mr. Reitz asked if the developer or the Board files the Article 78 and would like a second opinion. At times the Village and Town law differs . Mr . Reitz asked Mr. Auble what his attorney's opinion is regarding this issue. Mr. Auble said his attorney disagrees with Ms. Bixler on the issue of whether the developer can bring the Article 78. Mr. Reitz suggested the two attornies speak on this issue. Mr. Hogan said that there won't be another meeting before January 27th and Mr. Reitz reminded him that there is the Regular Board Meeting in February. . .within our 30 day period. Mr. Hogan asked the Board's pleasure . Mr. Reitz suggested waiting until the Village files, then we have 30 days to make our decision as to whether we want to file or not [Article 78] , then , meet and decide. Mrs. Duddleston suggested starting negotiations at the next Joint meeting with the Village on the 31st. Mrs. Georgia asked if they [Village] can change their vote after they file. Mr . Hogan said he didn't think they could change their vote, but could negotiate that the Village make water and sewer available to the project and that the annexation be dropped. Mr. Reitz said the Village can change their vote prior 1 to filing . Stated that he feels that the Board should go forward with the Article 78. Mrs . Duddleston agreed. Mr. Hogan said he doesn't agree. . .not in best interest of everybody for the Town to sue the Village. . .for the Town to incur legal expenses; create bad feelings with the Village. Mr. Reitz asked Mr. Hogan if he had considered that when submitting the resolution for annexation. Mr . Hogan said he had; wanted to send a message. Mrs . Duddleston asked if the Board could ask the petitioner to help with the funding. . . if it goes to court. . .and would the TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 ADJOURNED BOARD MEETING January 19, 1991 petitioner be willing to help? Mr. Auble stated that he thinks the Town, in the process of approval, could request developer fees . Taxpayers shouldn't have to bear the burden. From our perspective, look at it as a justified expense. Mr. Reitz added that if the Board drops this now, the developer can come back with a new petition. . .we start all over again, advertise, hold public hearings, etc. and those costs will add - up. Mr. Auble said that if you look at the trade-off of some legal expense vs new tax revenue. . .Mr. Hogan responded that is if you win the case. • ACC Mr. Hogan said that there had been a request from Mr. Len Walden, Aubles Trailer Park, asking the Board to negotiate with ACC for a 10% senior citizen discount. It is currently available in the City of Ithaca. Mr. Hogan will talk with ACC and also request a map of the proposed lines. Spruce Row Mr. Reitz stated that he had not had a chance to talk with Harry Weber. Mr. Hogan said we need to get this resolved. Mr. Reitz will send Mr. Weber a letter and ask him to attend the Adjourned Town Board Meeting on Saturday, February 2, 1991 to discuss this matter. Court System Short discussion ensued regarding the interviewing, hiring process and schooling of a Town Justice. Will interview on February 2, 1991 . Discussed equipment needs of the Court with Mrs. Springer. If additional hours are needed for the deputy court clerk during the transition period, request should be made to the Board. Mrs . Springer discussed time of service benefits and health insurance coverage. Decided that she will carry nuMbr of years of service into the Town position and that the Town will pay 100% of insurance. Library Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston a resolution to approve *5,500. for 1991 to the Ulysses Philomathic Library. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Hearing no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 11 :50AM to reconvene on Saturday, February 2, 1991 at 8:30AM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha Georgia pm it Of TOWN OF ULYSSES . ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING February 2, 1991 ti. Present: William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz, Catherine - Stover, Carolyn Duddloaton, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present: Steve Proctor - FreePress >;. Mr. Hogan opened the Adjourned Town Board Meeting of the Town of ; Ulysses at 8: 30AM. Mr. Hogan stated that there are a couple of things to discuss between 8 : 30AM and 9:30AM. Have five people for interviews ` today . John Ward and Terry Harvey aren't able to be here today. Mr . Reitz asked when a decision will be made for a new �'. Justice. . .Regular February Board meeting? Mr. Hogan said yes . The Board decided to meet with the two candidates unable to be = interviewed today on Thursday, February 7 at 6 : 30PM. Population Chart Mr. Hogan said the Population Chart is quite interesting . The Town of Ulysses increased by 240 people and the Village decreased '., by 100 people. Mr. Reitz said these Village figures were double checked. What has happened is the decrease in size of families in the homes. Towns increase is based on new housing starts . SPCA Mr. Hogan spoke with a representative from the SPCA. She indicated the Board was not happy that the Town of Ulysses would not go along with a 10% increase; that we would only give them a I 7% increase. Mr. Hogan said it isn't a great deal of money, only about $270. , perhaps we can split the difference with them. Mr. Reitz said we have already split the difference once with them, we said 5%. . .they asked for 10%. . .and we settled at 7%. Haven't seen any increase in services we receive. We put it in our budget. . .where will we take it from? Mrs. Stover asked what the alternative is and Mr. Hogan said he would have to ask. Mr. Reitz said that only four or five towns contract with the SPCA. . .others have gone with a private individual . Spruce Row Mr. Reitz spoke with the Webers and invited Harry to this meeting. . .he was going to be out of town. Mrs . Weber indicated that Harry is interested in meeting with the Board so reminded her of the next Town Board Meeting February 12, to see if he could try and make it then. Mr. Hogan said it seems like Mr. Weber is avoiding the Town . . .this is a pretty important issue. Perhaps should have our . attorney speak with Weber's attorney . Mr. Weber has to decide if he wants to take care of this . . . if not drop it and we can go ahead and cite him . I Mr. Reitz said if Mr. Weber doesn' t come on the 12th February. . .can decide on another course of action . Mr . Hogan said might be a good idea to have Ed Hooks follow up on this . Mr. Reitz stated that is a question . . . what do we want to do with the new Town Attorney we contract with; what will we do with pending situations? Mr . Hogan said rather than pay another 141 4 TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING February 2, 1991 attorney for time to familiarize himself with those cases, would continue to use the ones involved et this time; have new attorney pick up new cases that come along . General consensus was to keep Ed Hooks and Elizabeth Bixler on a contract basis to follow through to the end the cases they are involved with. Retirement Mr. Reitz stated that he would like to have some kind of retirement celebration for Jim Rice. . .couple suggestions have been an Open House, a dinner. Asked for input and suggestions . . .aiming for mid-March. Has a photo that he will have framed. . .also a resolution that could perhaps be engraved as a gift. Will continue this discussion as plans are formed. Auble Annexation Mr. Hogan stated that he had a phone call from Guy Krough. . .Guy and William Auble would like to meet with the Board. They want to talk to the Town as to whether or not the Town would be interested in negotiating with the Village, etc. Mr. Hogan said that he told Krough that he would speak to the Board and get back to him. Mr. Hogan continued, the Town has thirty days from the time the Village filed [January 22) . Mr. David Auble said that if the Town would go ahead and make the decision to file the Article 78, with the condition that the Town Attorney and our attorney discuss the financial ramifications, -• and then have your Town Attorney give his opinion on the financial aspects. . .sure that is a major consideration. . .and then the next step would be predicated on the attorney's opinion on what the financial impact would be (ie: if you have a small investment to file the Article 78 and a big dividend in terms of • tax revenues, then it's a worthwhile situation) . Mr. Hogan said we have 20 more days before we filo. Talked with Ms . Bixler and the approximate cost would be 62, 500. We have to decide if it is in the beat interest of everyone in the Town, for the Town to be filing suit against the Village. Mr. Reitz stated that the overriding issue is that we filed a resolution to approve this; do we want to continue with this whether it's against the Village or any other municipality. Mr. Hogan said they are two separate issucs . . . we decided that annexation was best for the community. That process is behind us . Our next step is we have to decide if an Article 78 initiated by the Town is in the best interest of everyone involved. Even if we do file the Article 78, and take the Village to court, that doesn 't mean that the Village has to zone that so the development can go ahead. It 's saying that the annexation is in the best interest of the people of the community; but the Village can still say they don't want it and zone it so that it can't happen. First of all its going to cost .. us $2, 500 . . . . ! am of the opinion that it is not a good idea for the Village to be sued by the Town. Mr. Reitz asked if anyone had indication from the Village that they are willing to amend their water and sewer policy? Mr. Hogan said No, too bad that we didn't discuss that the other night at our meeting . Mr. Reitz said even if we did file, wonder if there isn' t an opportunity to withdraw the action? Mr. Hogan said it costs a lot to file it. . .need nine copies of everything. Mrs . Duddleston stated that she felt the Town should go ahead and file. • 1 TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING February 2, 1991 Discussion of recouping financial investment was discussed. Mr. Auble said that even if they aren't successful, then will come into the Town and request a PUD, then you could recover in the form of fees . Mrs . Duddleston said what if the annexation is ® approved, what about reimbursement of fees . Mr. Auble said if the project goes forward then the tax base would be higher. Mrs. Stover asked Mr. Hogan if he could go to Ms. Bixler and find out in more detail what we can and can't do in terms of filing procedures and getting out of it? Mr. Hogan said he could, but doesn' t know if that is the right way to go. . .holding a lawsuit over your neighbors head . Don't know if I 'm in favor of doing that; but can ask Ms . Bixler. . . is that what you are talking about? Mr. Reitz said he would support Mrs. Stovers suggestion, that we go to Ms. Bixler and ask to have a better understanding of what the Article 78 proceedings are like; think it's a very fair question to ask our attorney. If we do file, is it possible for us to withdraw? Not saying we will withdraw, but is it possible. N' Mr. Hogan said he would check on this. Think there are two issues here. . .one, is it the right thing to do and two, what will be the reimbursement. Mr. Hogan went on to say that the Village has many problems right now, several law suits, bookkeeping problems, etc. , don't think they need another law suit. Could send them a message saying that. . .we told you this time that we don't agree with you; we are not going to take you to court this time, but next time we will. Think we have to decide whether it is in the best interest of everybody in the Town of Ulysses and the Village for us to file suit. Mrs . Duddleston said if we didn't feel that way to begin with why did we vote for the annexation? I understood that we would take it the whole way and go ahead and support the whole project. Mrs . Duddleston said that the Board should ask the Village to meet with them and discuss just this item. Mr. Reitz asked if it was possible to consider meeting on Thursday night. . .they are interviewing, perhaps meet with them after. Mr. Weatherby asked the purpose of meeting . . .see if they (Village] will change their minds? Mr. Reitz said, yes, that or see if they would amend their water & sewer policy. . . if we don 't file the Article 78, the case drops . . .if they would allow water and sewer outside the Village then the project could go on. At least get a sense from the Village. Mr. Hogan said he would try to set up a meeting with the Village. Judicial System Mr. Hogan said we should make sure we have everything down as to the needs and requests in detail, from Roger and Christine, for the final negotiations . Mr. Reitz said he would be happy to work on this . Discussed some aspects of the set-up of the Justice Office. Mr. Hogan mentioned that Mr. Rachun had an opinion from the Association of Towns regarding local law revising building permit rates. Way our law is written we can go ahead and revise them without a public hearing. Hearing no further business, Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 9:30 AM. Respectfully submitted, TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING February 7 , 1991 • Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Carolyn Duddleston, Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. • Others Present : Steve Prootor-FreePress, Guy !trough, David Auble, William Auble, Richard Thaler. Mr. Hogan opened the Special Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses at 7 :00PM and turned the meeting over to David Auble. Mr. Auble stated that Mr. Thaler had discussed with him some of the ideas discussed at last Saturday's meeting. Mr. Thaler said that based on what has happened since the Town has agreed to the III annexation and the Village has not , it would seem to me that the Town could, if they wanted to, do one of two things and that is they can go to the Village and say look, we can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way. The easy way would be for us to create a water and sewer district in the Town and the Village • • would agree to give services at a rate and a half . This would help the Village with their budget deficit and would be of no cost to you because we [Town] would stand the expense of it [and of course that is part of the developers expense] . Something that the Town has to undertake, the developer dons that for you. All the Village has to do is say, we voted not to annex the property but we will give you the services. . . that is the easy way. The hard way would be for the Town to say, if you don' t want to do that, then we are going to file an Article 78; will go directly to the Appellate Division because we are a governmental agency and take the decision that you [Village] acted capriciously and without justification; we were the ones that had something to lose, you had everything to gain, and therefore we feel that what you [Village] did is unreasonable. Mr. Thaler continued that he talked with David Auble and William Auble and said that it would make sense that instead of the Town having to undergo the coat; if the Town is successful William would benefit from it, then we would do the legal work, submit it to your attorney for approval and then you could submit it with very little cost as far as the Town taxpayers are concerned. Feel that the Village has everything to lose both ways if they don't do it . . . one is they don' t get the extra revenue if they don't collect one and a halt times for water and sewer and secondly, if they want to fight they are going to have to undergo the cost. Don't know if that makes any tense, but think they are the two alternatives . Mrs. Stover said the Village would charge the rate and a half anyway, correct? Mr. Hogan said that is the standard procedure. Mr. Thaler said that he understands that anyone who is outside the Village would be charged a rate and a half, but the fact that they don't have that now, it would be additional income to them. To have the water district there, would seem that they have the ability to spread their costs . Mr. Reitz•.said the whole issue here is the Village's policy adopted not too many years ago, that they would not provide water outside the Village except under XYZ reasons. William Auble said they voted not too long ago to provide water to the addition at the Golf Course. . . is that XYZ or humanitarian? Mr. Reitz said they felt that under Village policy they would extend the lines. Town of Ulysses 2 Special Town Board Meeting February 7 , 1991 Mr. Thaler added that one of the things regarding a water extension. . . the Village already has water to Mr. Auble's trailer park. It isn' t something that is creating a new policy for them [Village] , what this amounts to is legalizing that which has been in effect for years. . . and that is the water district would encompass not only the trailer park but also this commercial endeavor. Mr. Reitz said as he understands it, the Village policy is anyone within 500 ' of a "main" can hook up to it with Village approval . Anyone within the Village has to still be approved, but inside or outside, the Village makes that policy statement every time an application for water hook-up comes before them. Mr. Thaler said what has been done in Lansing, being the Town Attorney there and working with Bolton Point, can tell you that a person who is next to a water district , in and of himself , get water unless it is an extension of the district . Seems to me that it makes sense that we finally formalize that which you have been doing on a contract basis with the Village, and encompass the whole property. I do this sort of thing all the time for the Town of Lansing, see no reason why I can't put one together for the Town of Ulysses as well . Mr. Reitz said you raised an interesting idea. . .we have never had a contract with the Village to provide water for outside the • Village users, to my knowledge, except for Alpha House. Mr. Thaler said you should have. Contracts provide the basis upon which you know from one time to the next exactly what the terms are going to be. Mr. Reitz said that part of the issue here is that the Village's argument will be that the line going to the trailer park is not a main. Mr. Thaler said then go the other way. . . if it isn't a main, then it should be, and the only way it can be is to have a water district . Because the water district would own the main. If you have a municipality that is involved • in the distribution of water, it shouldn't be private, it should be a public main and it should serve the whole district, not just one user. This is the philosophy used in Lansing and we have put together seven water districts and eight extensions in the last three years . . .all very successful and all with the approval of the Dept . of Audit and Control and all of them, right now, are paying their freight . We had a problem. . .had people without water, whose wells had sulfur, iron, etc. and we have negotiated with the Village of Lansing on the basis that it is one municipality contracting with another, to extend services for the benefit of the population. Think that is where you want to come from. Mr. Hogan said he felt that it was indeed the common sense approach, however, doesn' t feel there is much of a chance in changing the Village Trustee's minds . Mr. Thaler said that the hard way will cost the Village monies • that are not in their budget and may very well be what brings • them around to changing their minds. . .and with no assurance that they are going to win, think the Town has a very good chance of convincing the Appellate Division that they [Village] didn' t act within the law. Mrs. Stover asked that with an Article 78, it is to force the Village to accept the property into the Village? Mr. Thaler said correct. You [Town] are going to lose something and the Town has already said we want to do this because it is to the benefit of the whole community. The Village's position is they don' t want it and have no proof that it's not for the benefit of the entire community. • 1 .. t'. • ,.r ' Y” •1: Pl••L ,,4 !'R •9 fl! ..i ,.�. 1 E. . ' Y,..' r':1..\':. .1A. •, tg Town of Ulysses 3 ` Special Town Board Meeting February 7 , 1991 Mr . Hogan asked what happens if we go to the Village with this -.. proposition and they say No, and the Town Board decides they don' t want to go forward with an Article 78 and sue the Village? Mr . Thaler said there are two alternatives : one, the issue is dead; or the other issue is that Mr. Auble can decide he wants to • bring action himself . Think we are at a point we are as clone as we are going to be without actually being there, and think that if rational , reasonable people can sit down and look at this thing. . .doesn't make sense to me, on behalf of the Village that they want to spend money to try to defend their position and not know that they are going to win. They have to talk to their ® attorney, if their attorney tells them that they will have to spend five to seven thousand dollars and throwing it down the tube and not coming home winners, some of the, taxpayers ought to be up in arms. .. Mr. Reitz said there are two other scenarios that haven' t been addressed. If, as Mr. Hogan suggested, the Village says No, and the Town Board says we aren' t going to file the Article 78, petitioners can come back to the municipalities and ask for acceptance of the annexation and start back over again; or, a petitioner can come to the Town alone and ask for a PUD. Mr. Thaler said that is true, but with a PUD you still need utilities and you still have to be able to contract with the Village or develops your own source. Puts you back in. the same • position you are in right now, why do that and spend all that time and money to get in the same position you are in now. Agree with you that there is another alternative and that you start all over again. Mr. Reitz said one of the time processes you will • have is that the Village will have two new trustees when the process starts back over again. : ill Mr. Thaler said that another thing that can be done if the Village refuses to accept , you can go ahead and file and then you have three months and can always withdraw your petition if the situation changes . • a Mr. Hogan said he had talked with Tom Bennett, Mayor of Trumansburg, and he mentioned that they would discuss at their • meeting the possibility of putting this annexation matter on the ballot as a non-binding referendum. Mr. Thaler said that anything they can do to be of assistance regarding this matter, stand ready to help. • Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Thaler to repeat his offer. Mr. Thaler said the offer is this : let us set up a water and sewer district and you [Town] contract with the Village to have service to this , • district at a rate and a half . Again, the cost of preparing the • water district, sewer district and contract will be the developers cost . I will prepare the documents, submit them to your attorney, they can review and approve them. The second offer is that if they [Village] refuse that, what we would do on ® behalf of Mr. Auble, we would prepare the petition, necessary documents for the Article 78 and submit it to your attorney, and all you have to do is file it. You could then either proceed with it or you could hold until such time there are elections. The first alternative makes the most sense. You finally get into a position that you regularize the relationship between the Village and the Town in water and sewer. And you are doing it on the basis that makes sense. Mrs. Stover said if there is an Article 78 and it is successful . . .what then? Mr. Thaler said the Village is forced to accept this property into the Village and at that point it has Town of Ulysses 4 Special Town Board Meeting February 7, 1991 ' the right to water and sewer. Hrs. Stover asked if then they are assured of development. . .Mr. Thaler said he thinks so, because of the fact that you make application under the Village's zoning and that is zoned in the right way.. Mr. Krough said basically the issue of the annexation is to go in on a split residential/commercial zone. If the court tells them you have to approve it on this basis because this plan is in the public interest, think they would be in serious trouble if they brought it in low-density residential . Mr. Reitz said he feels that David Ruble has not had an . opportunity to address the new plans to the Village trustees. Mr. Thaler said there has not been an opportunity to discuss the water district either. When asked about the thirty days. . .petition must be filed by February 22nd. They have 45 days to respond and then you have to get on the calendar, so could be in, June. Hearing no further questions, the meeting was closed at 7 : 30PM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia . . pm 11/ r . TOWN OF ULYSSES VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG JOINT MEETING February 7, 1991 Present: Karl Zylich, Susan Perkins, Thomas Reitz, Thomas Bennett, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, William • Hogan, Sam Demas, Catherine Stover, Marsha Georgia . Others Present: Ozzie Heila • Mr. Hogan, Ulysses Supervisor told those attending what transpired at the meeting earlier this evening with Mr. Thaler, Mr. David Auble, Mr. William Auble and Mr. Krough, regarding the annexation. The Ulysses Board felt they should talk to the Village Trustees one more time before making a decision regarding the Article 78. Mr. Hogan continued that Mr. Thaler, Auble's attorney, proposed a couple of different things and quoted Mr. Thaler as follows : "the easy way to do it would be for the Town to negotiate with the Village a water district in the area concerned. The Town would create a water district and the Town would retain the • property. " Mr. Hogan asked the Trustees if they would Consider this . Mr. Zylich said the Trustees would have to talk about it prior to the Town making a decision. Mr . Demas said that obviously from the Village's point of view, what would happen is that the commercial development that we are trying to prohibit would happen and we wouldn't get any tax base out of it. Mr. Hogan • said the benefit to the Village that Mr. Thaler mentioned is the fact that you could sell the water at a rate and a half, because it is outside the Village and the Auble's attorney would take care of setting up the water district. It would be a source of income. Mr. Demas said and you [Town] would zone it commercial? Mr. Hogan said that Auble could file for a PUD [Planned Unit • Development] , the Town Board would look at the proposal and turn it over to the Town Planning Board. We would deal directly with them. Mr. Demas said then we would have a commercial zone on each end of the Village. Mr. Hogan said yes . Mrs . Duddleston said you have that now, there is commercial at that end of the Village. Mr. Demas said in the Town of Covert. Mrs . Duddleston • said it is also in the Town of Ulysses . Mrs. Perkins said that is non-conforming. Mrs . Duddleston said but it is still there. Mrs . Perkins said this would increase it dramatically. Mr. Dames asked what the other options would be . Mr. Hogan said the other option is to file the Article 78 with the Appellate Court. Mrs . Perkins asked if the Town has other options . Mr. Hogan said we have to vote on this . . .the other option is to not file the Article 78 . Mr. Hogan said he talked with Mr. Bennett over the week-end and you indicated that there might be a possibility of putting this on the ballot in the form of a non-binding referendum . Mr . Bennett said yes, but found it can 't be done. If you put a proposition on the ballot it has to be Yes or No and binding. Mrs . Duddleston asked why the Village wouldn ' t want it binding? Why go to the trouble if you aren't going to do what the majority of the people ask? Mr. Bennett said that what he is seeing is that the present Board of Trustees is afraid of what the Village residents would vote. . . 1 think they would vote it in. Mrs. Duddleston said that would be the majority of people speaking out. Mr . Bennett said he knows . . .everybody he has talked to ask . . 9 .... �. F. IF Town of Ulysnes/Village of Trumansburg 2 Joint Meeting February 7, 1991 why not do it, everyone Sam sees says why not do it, everyone Karl sees nays why not do it. Mr. Demas said wait a minute, the people I see don't say that. • The people I see say you voted the right way, what's the matter with the Town. . .that's what I 'm hearing all up and down the street. Mr. Hogan said he has talked to a lot of people and that's not what he has heard. The other alternative is to vote. . .we have thirty days to file the Article 78. Mrs. Duddleston said it has • to be filed on the twenty-second of February . Mr. Demas said there is now a commercial zone which has several • . commercial enterprises, including a grocery store that was in the center of town, and there is room for more. My guess is that in your Master Plan you have identified that as an area for increased commercial development. What is the thinking behind establishing another commercial development in the Town. . .have another grocery store and room for more retail . Do you really want to have two, one on each side of the Village? You think that is in the best interest in the long term. . . is that the thinking behind it? - Mr. Hogan said Yes, the people I 've talked with have said if you can put thousands of dollars worth of good, solid buildings there, and create some jobs, certainly can't hurt • anything. . .would only help the tax base, give people a place to work, plus the residential aspect and proposed "senior citizens housing" . If properly done, with trees, etc. , don't see it as a detriment to the community. Mr . Demas asked if Mr. Hogan had heard any concerns expressed about eroding downtown, competing with businesses and having empty store fronts downtown? Mr. Hogan said Yes, have talked with a lot of people, and they have said, OK, let's take a look at downtown. . . you have Camels, that will be there as long as they give you a great meal at a reasonable price, you have the Rongo, which will be there regardless of what happens at the other end of town, there is the Gem Shop, the telephone company, a bank, attorney's offices. . . I don't see that any development at the end of town will hurt these businesses . The only one that might be in jeopardy would be the drug store. If there is competition, it is good for business people, and businesses . Don't think competition is going to come out of office buildings; and a super market and a couple of other retail stores, don't think they will have a drastic effect on downtown Trumansburg. . . I really don't. Do you? What stores do you think they will hurt? Mr . Demas said he does think it will hurt downtown. . .the drug store obviously. . .would probably end up being a video at one end or the other and would effect that one, I think a coffee shop would spring up. . .wherever you have a shopping center, you have a coffee shop. Maybe we can sustain another coffee shop in town, I don't know . I think office space, you might tend to get people renting office space who might have rented downtown. Mr. Hogan said a couple of people came into the Town office and • submitted a request for a PUD for office space in Jacksonville, these things are going to happen . We are actively looking at a Master Plan. Mr . Demas said I think we have the makings of a perfectly good, productive commercial district already, at the other end. Mr. Hogan said they are limited in size. Mr. Demas said it's a lot bigger that this 52 acres . . . Mrs . Perkins said it could go on either side. Mrs . Duddleston said there isn't that much across 41 Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 3 Joint Meeting February 7, 1991 from the ShurSave, where Bill Auble owns property. Mrs . Perkins said it would be large enough for a P&C . One of my areas of concern is that we saw a dramatic drop in pedestrian traffic when a. the ShurSave moved, and think we will see a considerable drop in just the number of people who are present in the downtown if the P&C moves out to the other end. Mr. Reitz asked "don't you think that the P&C will move anyway?" Their lease expires in 1993, the stores of the future do not �.., conform or will they fit on the site they occupy now. • Mrs . Perkins said she has heard for ten years that the P&C is moving out and it's still there. They have a good spot, have loyal clientele, they know that, they aren't going to jeopardize that. If we give them a strong message that by staying in the Village they contribute more to the positive climate of this community than by moving out, I don't think they would move. • Mrs . Duddleston said they don't have the space to expand, don't have a choice. Mrs . Perkins said I think that they see there is an opportunity to move and get everything they want without having to give very much back and maybe I just feel that we have more bargaining position than maybe you (Town] do. Could be as wrong or right as anybody, but what I heard at the public hearing from P&C rep. is that they want to make the community happy, and if the community sends a message that this is what they want, and let them build a store of the 21st century, great then they can make a lot more money, but if we send the message that we want consideration about centering the commercial district, about responding to what we already have here as a culture and climate, - then I think they would do it; don't think we have tried very hard to ask them what they would be giving up in turn. Just been arguing over whether or not we want to let Bill Auble have what he wants . • Mr. Demas said we want a grocery store downtown, want to have a shopping center downtown. Mr. Hogan said if there is a market for a grocery story downtown that market will be filled by an enterprising individual. Mrs . Perkins said, not if there is one at each end. Mr. Hogan said, in time, if there is a need for a convenience market, it will open downtown. Mr. Demas said what will happen, you have a wonderful grocery store on one end, if we put a great big grocery story from the 21st century on the other end, the need for one downtown will be diminished to a convenience store, that's all we' ll ever get. As Susan said, I think our best bet is to retain what is a need in the Village for a downtown grocery store and talk to the P&C about it. Mr. Reitz said beside the grocery store, are there any visions of what the downtown Village should be or will be in the year 2000, never really heard about anything except to know what has been there for the last fifty years . I Mr. Demas said they are applying for a NYS Council of Arts Grant now to in fact do what is long overdue, and that is a design study for Main Street. To really look at and question what kind of commercial businesses would be viable down there, what kind of parking configurations might work, to attract more businesses and • revitalize the downtown. It's really Main Street from one end of the Village to the next, looking at, the question of commercial potential, and actually drawings of what we would like it to look like. This wold be part of the Master Plan, and rather than react, as we always have been to proposals that come up, we can say, this is what our vision is and invite people to come in and _ build to meet that. Afraid that isn't specific, but I would r Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 4 Joint Meeting • February 7, 1991 really like to see a new grocery store on the existing lot. Know it couldn't be as big as the one the P&C could build, but we aren't convinced that how much the P&C makes is the biggest priority in the Village. Mr. Hogan said that in any case this is what we wanted to talk to you about, give you an opportunity to think it over. Mrs . Perkins said she has one other thing. . .doesn't look at the Village in isolation from the Town. . .that we interact and people live in this community, and really it's more the Town almost, • than it is the Village, because we have become a smaller piece of the total picture, and I would hope that you would take that very seriously in consideration when you vote, because I think that ,". whatever happens to one municipality happens to the other. We are too closely tied, for it not to. Mr. Demas said, what I hear people saying, going back to that question, is 'do you mean to tell me that as a Town taxpayer I am going to be paying to sue myself as a Village taxpayer? ' 'Would those people really do that? ' I say, I don't think so. Mr. Hogan said by the same token a lot of people have said to us, 'this thing has gone on for ten years, Bill Auble is going to sue you anyway. ' If we keep having public hearings that cost a thousand dollars and keep doing this three or four times a year, you are going to end up spending a lot of money anyway. Mr. Bennett said if it goes to court, thinks Auble will win. Mrs. Perkins said I don't think we go to court just because we think Bill Auble is going to win. Mr. Demas said I think you would have to prove that the Village is arbitrary and capricious in trying to protect its downtowc commercial district and there is nothing arbitrary or capricious about trying to retain a grocery store downtown, and retain a vital downtown. Mr. Hogan said we obviously aren 't going to get all that resolved tonight, the courts would have to resolve that. Mrs . Perkins said you have until the 22nd of February, do you have a deadline that you have to make that docioion. Mr. Hogan said we haven 't set one as yet, should. Mr. Reitz said the Town has a Regular Board Meeting on February 12, the problem is that the attorney has to prepare the documents and be in Albany filing it on the 22nd. We may make the decision at the meeting on the 12th. Mrs. Duddleston said something else to look at is that we have four months, maybe longer, to withdraw that, once it is filed . We could sit and negotiate, talk it over; in order to meet the deadline we may have to file it, but can withdraw it down the road some place. Mr . Demas asked Mrs . Duddleston why would you file it only to withdraw it? Mr . Reitz said if the Village gives indication that they want to negotiate water and sewer . Mrs . Duddleston said we would file it because we feel strongly that is the thing to do, we would withdraw as Tom just said, that you are willing to negotiate. Mrs . Perkins said that with the first option, we [Village] stand very little to gain . If we were interested in expanding the water district then we would naturally want to annex the land. That would be the way for the Village to benefit . Mr . Hogan suggested to the Village Trustees that they talk it over and let the Town know their decision and we will do the best we can with our:.; . • Mr . Hogan asked if there was anything else to discuss . Mr. Bennett said he had called Fred Witmore. Was told that fence was i Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 5 • • Joint Meeting February 7, 1991 in wrong plane and would cost 9150. to change it. Feels he is entitled to 8150. Told him would discuss it tonight and make a decision. He had a drawing where the fence was to go. Mr. Demas asked for a copy of the drawing. Mr. Hogan said the Town has a copy and Mr. Dames suggested sending Mr. Witmore a copy of the drawing and saying we won't pay the bill . A letter will be written and both Mr. Bennett and Mr. Hogan will sign it. Mr. Hogan said he had talked with Roger Rector regarding where Judicial system would be housed. Didn't feel some suggestions • would be handy, not accessible to Court Clerk. Mr. Bennett suggested an intercom system. , . Hearing no further discussion Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn at 9t15PM, seconded by Mr. Zylich. Unanimously approved, the • meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, - Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk . • pm HIH • 'f'...,1 !,1.: Ytt ]lI ��. ..ry, :� .k:, 3y.. ��.�t•. . . .. . ••r ..�...t.:(;.^:y, .. ,i let • TOWN OF ULYSSES y.. PLANNING BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 1 1 , 1991 'r 7 :30 P .M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Ri,:hard Garner , Geraldine } ei l , Budd Stover ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp .- Al e;; Rachun . Others Present : Harry Weber . • Chairman David Tyler called the meeting to order at 7 :35 p .m . The purpose of this meeting was to go through the Site Flan Approval • material . Mr . Tyler announced that he had received a call from the Board of • Repre>entative=- that the Tompkins County Advisory Board on Affordable • Housing has created a vacancy for a seat to he allocated for Planning Boards . If anyone from the Planning Board is interested , he would be pleased to have our Town represented . The Planning Board has been asked to review the Site Flan and make recommendation to the Town Board . If accepted , there would be a public hearing on it , it would be adopted as a local law into our new Zoning Ordinance . Mr. Weber asked if there would be any public input • into this plan . Mr . Tyler explained that there is a preliminary draft that has been on the table for a couple of years and we would review it and present something to the Town Board . It would then go to the public for review . Mr . Weber had heard that this plan was just • against businesses . Mr . Tyler said that was not necessarily true , but that is one of the issues that will be addressed as to who this ordinance will apply to . A copy of Ulysses Land Use and Development Code , taken from the • proposed Zoning Ordinance , was handed out to members . Mr . Tyler asked Mr . Rachun where this document was to apply . Mr . Rachun indicated that this is suppose to apply for all projects other than residential and agricultural . It does pertain to commercial and multi-units . Several questions were asked to just how much control or power the Flanning Board really has in regards to setting up this document . Mr . Rachun will pose these questions at the Town Board Meeting tomorrow night , (Tuesday , February 12) . Mr . Stover asked at what point the Site Flan review would go into • effect - when someone applies for a building permit? Mr . Rachun indicated that it would , or it may start earlier if it was a PUD . • There was much discussion over whether the Ulysses Land Use and Development Code draft of February 9 , 1989 should be used as our • • model . It was agreed that it was a pretty good model of a Site Plan , • but that certain sections should be better defined such as Section • 310 .2 on Applicability . Mr . Garner proposed that certain geographic areas should be required to go through Site Flan Review , such as lake property , land adjoining state parks , etc . There are certain residential areas that should be considered in this plan as well . Mr . Rachun feels this is basically covered in Master Plan . Mr . Tyler felt we should focus our efforts on Route 96 . This discussion was tabled for now . Mr . Tyler explained that it is very important to have a Site Flan . He • used several examples of areas that had no Site Flan in effect , and thinos grew out of proportion such as the Village of Lansing . He didn ' t want to see that happen in our area . Mr. Rachun felt we would run into major problems getting anything done if we start putting restrictions on single dwelling residences . No one should have excessive restrictions on their properties . • ..•r......`....-..` .. .: :� . . .�..:. qi•i �.is .: .. .r• 'r ., :nf,....1... ._a . Mil'...(.: • : earl • .. i'. There was some general review of certain areas of the proposed Site Plan . Mr . Tyler asked Mr . Rachun , before the next meeting , to go back • through all the Code references in the Site Plan proposal to make sure they go back to the existing articles . Mr .Garner suggested that we call in experts to help write up this proposal . Mr . Tyler feels our plan seems pretty straight forward and simple ; just need to clarify certain areas . Mr . Garner requested that we contact other municipalities that already have a Site Plan in use just to review . Mr . Tyler suggests the Planning Board get a draft together , submit it to the Town Board , and then to an attorney for review . Mr . Rachun felt that if we use this document as a guideline set by the State , work within the framework of this document , that we would have a document that we could present to the Town Board . The Town can ' t afford to have an attorney sit and review the whole document . It was agreed that the Planning Board would draw up the proposal , have it reviewed by an attorney before it is turned over to the Town Board . The next meeting will be Monday , February 18th at 7 :30 p .m. Mr . Rachun will contact' the Association of Towns to get some site plans in use , and will check all the references in the site plan draft before the next meeting • Mr . Stover motioned that the meeting by adjourned ; seconded by Mr . Garner . Meeting adjourned at 9 :20 p .m . • • • 't TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING February 12, 1991 Present: William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeopla; James Meeker, Highway Superintendent; .,: Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk; Alex Rachun, Zoning/Bldg . ; James Mason, County Board of Reps . Others Present: Dorothy Sellers, Elsie Vann, Winnie Baker, David Auble, Carl Mann, Jerry Perkins, Peter Meskill, Beach Stover, Ann Stover, D. Burke, P. Sterns, Pill Parker, Jim Brown, Glenn Applebee, Linda Smith, Steve Proctor, Mr. Lounsbery, Jim Seafuse, Mr. Petrovic, Roger Meier, Mr. & Mrs . Gunn, Boy Scouts -Organ, Overbaugh, Meier, Harry Weber, Ruth & Peter Kahn, Lou Poley, George Patte, Mr. & Mrs. Demas, D. Peitz, Alan Vogel, Bob Brown, T.R. Forbes, David Tyler, Andy & Ruth Scott. Mr. Hogan, Supervisor, called the Regular Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8:00PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. • Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting January 8, 1991 and the Adjourned Board Meeting January 19, 1991, moved by Mrs. Duddleston, seconded by Mr. Reitz. Unanimously approved. Report - Trumansburq Fire Department Mr. Hogan read the report submitted by the Trumansburq Fire Department (see attached) . Report - Representative James Mason Mr. Mason reported that they are going to Syracuse tomorrow to • meet with the DEC on landfill closure order. Have been ordered to close the landfill by December 31, 1991 . Lot of conditions that have to be agreed upon. Working through the consent order and hope to iron out most of the details in the near future. Piece of bad news received this past week is that the Court of Appeals has agreed to hear the Town of Drydens suit against the County which has already been through the Appellate Court; was a unanimous five judge decision that upheld the County's position. Will probably be another year by the time wo got through this process of one suit after another. Would be nice if some of the other municipalities would give us some help in letting the Town of Dryden know that this continued litigation serves no one, and is only prolonging the inevitable . This past tax warrant was the first where people had the option of paying in installments . Interesting to see how many people took advantage of it. . .surprisingly few. In the Town of Ulysses with 2,223 tax parcels only 116 took advantage of installment payment and that accounted for about 6% of the total warrant for the Town of Ulysses . Had thought more people would take advantage of this . Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #26-75 for the total amount of 4165, 652. 27, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved . Mr. Reitz stated that one point of information, one bill for Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting = February 12, 1991 insurance alone was for $40,000 .00 . Supervisor's Financial Report Mr. Hogan said that the Tax Collector hasn't turned over any • money to the Town as yet. That money isn't reflected in this report. Mr. Hogan read the rest of the report. Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Bill Parker - Senior Citizens - In the past the Town of Ulysses has matched State funds for our recreation fund . Was wondering if the Town will continue to pay what they have in the past, for the rest of the year, or even increase it if possible. Mr. Hogan responded that there are many State cuts, would find out what the Town can do and will let Mr. Parker know. OLD BUSINESS Spruce Row Campsite Discussion took place regarding a map for Spruce Row. This map is a State requirement and will show population density, watershed, structural landmarks, etc. The cost last year was $800 . and probably wouldn't go over 61000. this year. Was suggested that Mr. Weber and the Town equally share the cost. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to precede along the lines of providing an adequate map; with Mr. Harry Weber to share in half of the cost, not to exceed a total of 61,000.00, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover. • Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Nay ° Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted . RT 96 Lighting ‘" Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Meeker if he had heard anything from State. Mr. Meeker had not heard as yet. Auble Annexation Mr. Hogan stated that we have a resolution passed by the Village at their meeting last night, which addresses their view of the Auble Annexation, and which Mr. Hogan read (see Auble file in Town Clerk's office) . Mr. Hogan said that obviously the Town has worked long and hard on the Auble Annexation, talked with a lot of people to get their opinion, etc . Have met with the Village several times, they have their reasons and are entitled to their opinion, so tonight we have to decide what course of action we have to take. There are three things we can do: we can ask the Village if they will entertain forming a sewer and water district and selling this for a rate and a half to the Auble project; two, could issue an Article 78 and ask the Appellate Court to decide what is in the best interest of the community; or three, we can just do nothing, and let it go. Last week, when we met with the Village, they were not interested in forming a water and sewer district and of course they are not t ..Yti I.�f.. ss �..J:.. -4't•.t. •.y . .ft rrMt �•. .. • . . r. � . . . . �. ..1.i • '� �.•. • - •\.•'�• a .�i • ♦ � �i'1 iii • • �\•�>♦M.i•I•.\1. . . '4.4' ' 3 ® Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting February 12, 1991 interested in having us issue an Article 78. Mr. Hogan asked the pleasure of the Board. Mr. Hogan said he would have to go on record as saying he does feel that for the overall benefit of the majority of the people in the community, additional tax base is important and is needed. Getting too expensive for the average person, working or retired on a fixed income, to live in this bedroom community without any commercial or industrial base. Something has to be done. The way the annexation law reads, the Village had to file an official notice w.,4,th the Town and County Clerks that they had voted down an annexation request. The Town has thirty days from that date, which was the 23rd of January, in which to take action. That gives the Town until the 22nd of February. . .and have to decide before that to give our attorney time to prepare the paperwork and get it to Albany. Several people in attendance made comments regarding the Auble Annexation. . .they were again reminded that the public hearing had been held and they had their chance to address this issue then. Mr. Mogan entertained a motion, moved by Mrs. Duddleston, seconded by Mr. Reitz the following: RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses proceed with the filing of the Article 78. FURTHER RESOLVED: that the Town be prepared to withdraw • the Article 78 proceedings at any time there is an indication that the Village Trustees are ® willing to talk to the developers. Mr. Hogan said that he still feels that it is not a good idea for the Town to sue the Village. The people in the Village are paying Town taxes. . .not a good idea to sue our neighbors . Mr. Reitz said an Article 78 is a challenge of proceedings . . .think the Village Trustees were premature in their decision and perhaps didn't have all the facts; didn't wait for the transcript for people to review. Think our position is annexation is appropriate. Hearing no further discussion, Mr. Hogan asked for a roll call vote. Mr. Weatherby Nay Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Hogan Nay Adopted Judicial System Mr. Reitz stated that there are plans to have a Joint Village/Town meeting on February 19th at 7: 00PM. Will be meeting with Mr. Zylich to address the judicial needs . Mrs . Duddleston asked when salaries, hours, etc. would be discussed and Mr. Hogan said sometime in March. Appointment/Planning Board Secretary Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover to appoint Rita Brown as secretary to the Planning Board and Zoning Board of Appeals at a rate of 07.00 per hour. Mr. Hogan Aye Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting February 12, 1991 Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted Appointment/Town Justice II Mr. Hogan said there were four good candidates for the Town Justice position. Mr. Reitz moved the name of John Ward as the Town Justice to fill the term this year, to expire December 31, 1991 , and to start immediately. Seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted Appointment/Town Attorney Mrs . Duddleston moved that Bruce Wilson be appointed as Town Attorney for one year, expiring December 31, 1991, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted NEW BUSINESS PUD Request/Pleasant Grove Assoc. Mr. T.R. Forbes stated that he is one of the partners in Pleasant Grove Assoc. . Have nine acres in Jacksonville which they would like to develop; build professional buildings . Have submitted plans for one building, detailed map, environmental assessment forms . Idea in mind is for professional, commercial office space. Four buildings proposed, to be constructed as rented. Would eventually have a total of eight buildings. Mr. Hogan asked if all the Board members had looked over the request and Mr. Weatherby had not had a chance. Looked at the map provided, only four buildings shown. Mr. Rachun said that if eight buildings are going to be built, then eight buildings should be shown on the map. Otherwise everything else seems to be in order. Mr. Forbes said they would like to have one entrance; have like a meadowlands. . .flowers, pasture. Is the kind of development that would fit the landscape and environment. Mr. Hogan requested that Mr. Forbes add the other buildings to the map; submit and then it will be passed on to the Planning Board. Mr. Reitz said you have indicated that your water supply is five gallons a minute; a private well I presume. Mr. Forbes said that is the well that has been there at the house. Plan to dig other wells for each building and also put in other septic fr SS. v'. Town of. Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting February 12, 1991 • systems . . .whatever the County requires . Mr. Hogan said this request will be tabled until the other four buildings are added to the map. Mr. Reitz asked if the existing �` house would be in the PUD or left as residential . Mr. Forbes said that will become a bed and breakfast in another week and - doesn't see any problem having it included in the PUD. ACC/Senior Citizens Discount Mr. Hogan stated that he contacted ACC regarding seniors receiving a discount. Barbara Lukins said they would allow senior citizens/low income discount for this area. The Town • would have to take care of helping people with their request. ACC will provide the discount but we would handle the eligibility . Will send a packet of information and income limits that are being used by the City of Ithaca. Also a map indicating areas where there is cable TV now. Mr. Hogan suggested tabling this item until all the information is received. Association of Towns Resolutions Mr. Hogan stated that he would like to have a vote on the eleven resolutions so that Roger Rector, Town of Ulysses delegate, can register our vote. Resolution Number 1 : Solid Waste - Reitz, Nay; 4 Others, Aye: Agreed • Resolution Number 2 : Recycling Markets - Unanimously Agreed Resolution Number 3: Revenue Sharing - Unanimously Agreed Resolution Number 4: Wicks & Chips Bidding Mandates - Unanimously Agreed Resolution Number 5: Municipal Ethics - Unanimously Agreed Resolution Number 6 : Impact Fees - Unanimously Agreed Resolution Number 7: Government Finance Initiatives - Unanimously against this resolution, leave up to delegate to decide after hearing discussion at meeting. Resolution Number 8 : Primary Polling Places - Unanimously Agreed Resolution Number 9: Sales Tax - Unanimously Agreed Resolution Number 10 : Condominium Assessment - Unanimously Agreed Resolution Number 11 : Assessment Revaluation - Unanimously Agreed Park And Ride Mr. Reitz stated that Cornell has a proposal called Transportation Demand which they now offer free parking to employees in periphery lots. The intention is to remove at least one o= these lots and charge up to $200. to park in the lot. Central campus would go up to $400 . a year for parking. Cornell is also offering free bus passes to anybody turning in their parking permits on campus. The impact on the Town would be that people would drive their cars to a Park And Ride lot, pick up the TomTran bus for free and go to work. Think it is time to look at - our Park And Ride lots in the Town of Ulysses . Have talked to County Planning Board and they would appreciate any input on possible Town locations . • ''. Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting February 12, 1991 • Mr. Hogan asked David Tyler, Planning Board Chair, if this was something his committee would look at. Mr. Reitz said that locations they are looking at would be cross- roads and either RT 96 or RT 89 corridors . Prefer western side of either of these routes . Cornell is talking of implementing this by July 1 , 1991 and guaranteeing five years of free transportation on the bus service. Resolution/Planning Board Sub-Committee Mr. Hogan said the Town has received a suggested resolution (see attached) from the newly appointed Town Planning Board Sub- , Committee. . .the people who are working on a Master Plan for the Town. Mr. Applebee said that one of the first things the sub-committee decided they needed was a charge, other than a verbal charge, to draw up a master plan. Looked into master planning, and that is r what this resolution does . A master plan is essentially a guide to physical development of a community, a scheme which describes how, why, when and where to build, rebuild, or preserve the community; it is long range. . .five years plus . We would hope for approval of this resolution so we can proceed with the planning work. Mr. Reitz asked if the charge should also come from the Planning Board since the Master Plan Committee is a sub-committee of that Board . Mr. Tyler said the Town Board created the sub-committee and the Planning Board is willing to work with them. Mr. Hogan asked if the resolution should be amended to read 'the Master Plan Committee will be given a clear charge from the Ulysses Town Board and Town Planning Board' ? Mr. Reitz said Yes, he agreed. • Mr. Hogan said that under Item #5 (monetary amount allocated) the suggested amount was '$500. from the Town's Master Plan Reserve Fund to pay for various resources to be utilized in preparation of the plan, copies, maps, phone calls, etc. ' . Mr. Hogan said that we have some money set aside for master planning so lets put in $500. Secretarial services are an additional expense. Mr. Reitz stated that a good point had been raised, that Rita Brown, secretary to Planning Board/ZBA could be utilized by the • sub-committee when needed. Mr. Hogan said that it is also contemplated that the sub-committee will tape their meetings; if there is something that involves an important decision then you can have that transcribed. Mr. Hogan address Item #6 . . .publicize when meetings are as news, rather than a paid advertisement. Item #7 'Planning Board and • the Board of Zoning Appeals are hereby directed to each appoint one from their membership to become members of the Master Plan • Committee; further, that person is hereby appointed by the Town Board as its member of the Master Plan Committee' . Mr. Hogan asked if anyone on the Town Board would like to volunteer for that job. Mrs . Stover said she would be willing to do that. Mr. Reitz asked if the Planning Board had made a recommendation for a member? Mr. Tyler said they just had their first meeting, so someone will attend. Also under Item #8 ' in order to coordinate planning with our friends and fellow Town citizens in the Village of Trumansburg, the Village is hereby invited to appoint one of its citizens to be a member of the Ulysses Master Plan Committee' . . .Mr. Meskill asked that a copy of the resolution be sent to the Village and they will act on that. Hearing no further questions or comments, Mr. Hogan entertained a 3 if Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board Meeting • February 12, 1991 motion to adopt the resolution as amended, moved by Mr. Reitz, • seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye • Adopted Loader Mr. Meeker, Highway Superintendent, explained that he can buy a new 644E John Deere Loader under NYS bid, which is good through March, for 975, 216. Asking Town Board to accept the State bid contract price, have money in Highway Equipment Reserve. Can't trade in the old loader when going State bid so will have to sell that outright and can probably get about 98,000. Mr. Reitz moved to approve the voucher for State bid contract to John Deere Industrial Co. for $75,216 . for a 644E Loader, money to be used from Highway Reserve Fund, and be subject to permissive referendum as required by law, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston and Mr. Weatherby. • Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted Elderly Exemption/Real Property Tax Mr. Hogan said Mrs . Georgia had received information regarding raising the income level for senior citizens to become eligible for a tax exemption. The County has passed increasing the limit from $12, 000. to $15,000. and under certain conditions that limit can go to $18, 600. Mr. Reitz said that this has not been increased since 1983 in the Town of Ulysses. Mr. Reitz moved to increase the income range for senior citizens as per the State and County guidelines as presented, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • Adopted REPORTS Town Clerk - Mrs. Georgia reported that for the month of January the total fees collected were $6,217.85 of which 93,753.42 was turned over to the Supervisor. This included In Lieu of Taxes, the money we get from the properties that are Tompkins County Development which was $2,798. about 25% up from last year because of the new assessment. Also received $32 . 53 from the American Legion for Bell Jar. Received Auble's Trailer Park license. '�r wt Y..:. ^i , .:.4s +t' .°T.: r I' -+..- .. .1 .4 l., r. � .�. ..'I ..,,_ .. ✓, r mot' .i Town of Ulysses 8 Regular Town Board Renting February 12, 1991 Mrs . Georgia mentioned the problem with the computer while the tax collector was working. . .had Mark Schrager in to work to check out the Tax Collectors back-up and he left a letter for the Board. Mark does not recommend putting the Town Clerk's package on the computer until it is straightened out. Computing Center came in on Monday since the new hard-drive is relatively new. Mr. Hogan said that the bookkeeper will talk with the Computing Center. Mrs . Georgia said that she wouldn't recommend putting !1®� any more money into the present computer to upgrade, etc. , would look into a new computer and keep the old one for just word perfect use. The current one is 4-5 years old. Mr. Reitz said he agrees with what Mark Schrager recommends, the computer is perhaps reaching the end of its useful lifetime. Mark has made a very good recommendation regarding a new computer; good price and very fast. Highway Superintendent Mr. Meeker reported that the loader warranty is for twelve months, 100% parts and labor additional 48 months engine power transmission. Plowed and salted as needed. Working on guiderail project down on Maplewood bridge. Have a recall on the 1989 Mack. Zoning/Building Inspector Mr. Rachun reported that it was a slow January; two permits for miscellaneous construction, total cost $12,000. , total fees received $60. Planning Board met to discuss Site Plan Review, came up with some questions and I will present them to you for review. One of the first questions on the Site Plan Review process is where does the ultimate responsibility lie. . .with the Planning Board or the Town Board? Mr. Rachun said that in Town Law, Site Plan Review generally ends up with the Planning Board, but with Planned Unit Developments the Town Board ultimately votes on whether it goes or not. Mr. Rachun said he thinks it should stay with the Planning Board. Mr. Hogan said he would go along with Alex's • recommendations, leave it up to the Planning Board. Mr. Rachun said the Town Board should talk it over with the Planning Board. Mr. Hogan said he could talk with them if the Town Board feels it should be a responsibility of the Planning Board . Mrs . Stover would like to think about it. Mr. Reitz and Mrs . Duddleston would like to review it before making a decision. Mr. Rachun said another issue. . . the Town Board is going to be responsible as the lead agency for SEAR in Planned Unit Developments and in annexation and things of that sort. The question is would you like the Planning Board to do the SEAR leg work for you and then you (Town Board] would review it. . .or would you like to do that entirely on your own? Seems that if the • Planning Board is doing the requirements for a PUD the SEAR could be done coincidentally and the Town Board could review it. Mr. Reitz said he has no problem with the Planning Board doing the leg work for SEAR . Mr. Rachun said the other item is the Pleasant Grove Assoc. . .got from them that they were not planning on eight units, will go with four. . .question is if there has to be another Town Board meeting or can they submit with a letter? They are aware that if they intend to add another four later on they would have to start over. Mr. Hogan said then this should be tabled until will receive the SEAR map? Mr. Rachun said Yes. Also urged the Town Board to ..• .. . . '.T .'�'. �. . . .. .... •.fir.' �•: .f! • Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Town Board Meeting February 12, 1991 6 contact Glenn Applebee on the Master Plan Committee and find out if anyone from that committee would also serve on the Planning ' Board. Decided to advertise the openings on ZBA and Planning Board one more time and ask for letter of intent. Mr. Hogan said he has • one applicant for Planning Board so far. Also has a letter from Tompkins Community Hospital requesting a person to sit on the Tompkins County Hospital Corp. for a two year term. Aileen Beers is going to contact Mr. Hogan with a nominee. • Board Members Mr. Reitz said he was prepared tonight for the Board to look over SEOR actions. Distributed information regarding SEOR. • Correspondence Mr. Hogan stated he had received correspondence as follows : Martin Luster regarding reduction in revenue sharing; Sheriff's • Dept. regarding arrests of people dumping garbage and need of truck; letter of intent from Christopher Gunn for Planning Board; State Comptroller's Office/scheduled us for review; Agenda County • Planning Board; letter from Ruth Kahn re Auble Annexation; Dept. of Planning; NYS DEC/report on Jacksonville water; census figures; Tompkins County Health Dept. re public water system which will be forwarded to Gail Zabawsky. Mr. Reitz mentioned re this Pleasant Grove Assoc. . . .they will be creating jobs. . .maybe we can get a Community Block Grant of some type to bring water to a location like that. Will explore possibility. Mr. Hogan continued. . .also received correspondence on State Aid to Local Government; Association of Towns brochure; letter about the computer; invitation from Board of Directors of EOC for a retreat; energy audit from NYSEG which has to be reviewed. Mr. Weatherby asked if anything has been determined about a retirement function for James Rice. Mr. Reitz said nothing has been decided as yet. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 10: 50PM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk • pm t. „t. 1 ' In i r C) C V. 0 • a) c • _ o of c r r M r CI O N N W O r Cr QN CO N n• .• 0 c) G - 9 C 'O Cl o N •O m rc C a) y a7 .. V N a = ? c m '' � cCa CC a0 p� a yyQ « > = U2 �' 9LL •`� m = is y fn c V m Q c '� ' $ C •`.�• y m c o V ° 7 ii C c h a LL C V C 0 2 C V 1- y w 3 AD 2 v- - C) ,_ NrN NN )!f r ^ CI N CI ye M lT W 1 0) . 6 ... m 0 ~ O i s u) a) .- r a) m Y 0) 5 — •C V a)0. N ' Ol c. W E O Q I C '� t'j C ul m a a ° IQ m UJ j e ? :co t N C V c) a ' C co m C . a U E 0 U S Iz a) 2 � � g o i- c 0 a) .. E Q v f- F u. . E `o y e '. 2 N E N N r o , co ° h r N m V.2 � SL ` m .ieamo v 2mw > a0 E ` X8yi.) « t t C m e y Z e Ta a E > z 8 0 a "C 0 a t ¢ e 9 I°- = L. a 1- a ILI cc c F E ¢ en o B- C.) l TOWN OF IJLYSSE0 CASH FLOIJ STATEMENT CHECKING Balance 12/31/90 25599. 14 Receipts & Transfers 55406. 60 Disbursements & Transfers 80985. 91 Balance 01/31/91 18. 83 SUPER :SAVINGS ACCOUNT . (Balance 12/31/90 84741. 48 Receipts & Transfers Disbursements & Transfers 16900. 00 Interest 390. '.32 Balance 01/31/91 58232. 40 Tax Collector 5-7 Account 2500. 00 Tax Collector Petty Cash 100. 00 CAPITAL RESERVE ACCOUNTS INCLUDING INTEREST • Highway ,Reserve 874227. 15 1 General Reserve 7390. 0.1 Part Town Reserve 7039. 62 Reserve for Unemployment Insurance 618. 07 Highway Reserve C. D. General Reserve C. D. 6025. 06 Part Town Reserve C. D. 10400. 99 Reserve for Unemployment Insurance C. D. 6100. 10 Petty Cash 150. 00 TOTAL TOWN FUNDS 196002. 23 THE . ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS c. OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK 146 Swt Stmt O./MUM NAM Albay.N.Y.11207 A.KEVIN CRAW FORD Iris Swan Case, • Za11A a uTNi Dins Ana C�TM sk • December 31.1990 . Deer Town Clerk: PLEASE READ AT FIRST 1991 TOWN BOARD MEETING ' Contains Dated Material to be Returned ••- Tho 1991 Annual Meeting of this Association will be held at the New York Hilton Hotel, New York r. city, February 17-20, 1991. ThIs Is a training session for town officials. The following Is a brief outline of events: INFORMATIONAL FEARING from 3:00 to 5:00 p.m.Sunday Afternoon,February 17,In the Beekman • Ballroom. See over page. . GENERAL OPENING SESSION for all town officers,9.•00 am.Monday Morning,February 18,Grand • Ballroom. GROUP SESSIONS for the various categories of town officers and special programs follow the Opening Session as will be set forth in the printed program: . t. Town Board Members Generally Fiscal Officers Urban Towns Building Officials Assessors' Planning &Zoning Officers • Highway Superintendents Town Justices Generally Town Clerics Town Justices (Advanced, Town Court Clerics Accredlted)• Tat Collecting Officers Town Attorneys HNctorians Police &Constables • _ BREAICFAST WITH THE ASSOCIATION 8.•00 am., Tuesday Morning, February 19. • • ANNUAL BUSINESS SESSION (Official al Delegates) 9:00 am.,Wednesday Morning, February 20. SPECIAL PROGRAMS In the areas of Planning&Zoning, Solid Waste Managerent, Ethics, GIS, Recycling and Records Management and other important and timely subjects will be available. ,. ,.�7 .:�,,; .. - ' Cerific lion Courses ity.Y� \p • Programs conducted by Off os d Court Administration dl" \ v . b • , ,1 \k'\p' A ;if , ... • r . . . .. .. . . • • r r The Constitution of the Association provides: 'On all questions arising at meetings of the Association,each member town In good standing shall be entitled to one vote.Such tote shall be cast by a person designated by the town board of such member • town, registered and present at the meeting at which the irate Is offered. The town board may designate an alternate to cast the rote of such town In the absence of the person so designated. No person shall be designated as a representatwe of a town or alternate unless he shall be an elector of the town so designated.• Any town which has paid Its dues for the year 1991 BEFORE the Annual Meeting Is a member in good standing.A CERTIFICATE OF DESIGNATION OF THE VOTING DELEGATE for your Town is enclosed. The CERTIFICATE MUST BE EXECUTED AND RETURNED TO THE ASSOCIATION,146 State Street,Albany, New York 12287-1871,NO LATER THAN FEBRUARY 8 for the Credentials Committee to review and establish eligibility. Official voting delegates designated In such Certificate of Designation,Including those who have pre- . registered, mist report to the Headquarters office, Clinton Suite. (AU other officers attending the Annual Meeting report or register in the Promenade Area on the Mezzanine Floor) A copy of the preliminary 1991 Legislative Program developed at a Joint meeting of the Executive Committee and the Resolutions Committee is attached. The Resolutions Committee will present the Legislative Program to the Delegates at the 1991 Business Session.RESOLUTIONS SUBMITTED AT LEAST 15 DAYS BEFORE TFE 1991 ANNUAL MEETING will also be received and considered for recommendation • at the Business Session. So that delegates win have an understanding of proposed resolutions prior to the Business Session on Wednesday, an Informational Hearing on the resolutions will be held by the Executive and Resolutions Committees Sunday Afternoon,February 17, in the Beekman Ballroom from 3:00- ' 5:00 p.m. . The registration fee wit include 'Breakfast with the Association' an Tuesday Morning. This fee together wMh other actual and necessary expenses of town officers and employees authorized by town boards to attend, w a lapel town charge tinder 77-b of the Goa Municipal Law. Registration receipts will be Sued. They should be retained by each town officer or employee attending and should be attached to claim vouchers presented to town boards for reimbursement of • attendance expenses.The official Annual Meeting Bulge must be displayed for admission to all sessions. • • • • • 1991 Resolutions Reported by the Resolutions Committee of the Association of Towns of the State of New York RESOLUTION NUMBER 1: SOLID WASTE The crisis in solid waste management remains a primary concern of town government throughout New York State. The voters' rejection of the 21st Century Environmental Bond Act only served to magnify the immediate need to identify and commit a dedicated, reoccurring stream of State revenue to support local efforts to address this problem. • As a first step, the packaging tax enacted in the 1990 Legislative Session and intended to help retire the debt from the Environmental Bond Act — should be dedicated to funding solid waste efforts at the local level. Also, it is imperative that $162 million in State matching funds be appropriated to leverage the$874 million Federal wastewater treatment funding which will otherwise be forfeited. In view of the absence of any meaningful fiscal support from the State to date, the Association calls for the suspension of enforcement of landfill closure orders wherever grant monies from DEC are not available; and for the rollback of any other related solid waste mandates until such time as State funding is in place. RESOLUTION NUMBER 2: RECYCLING MARKETS New and expanding markets for recycled goods must continue to be developed if the mandatory recycling programs of town government are to be successful and cost effective. Expansion of those markets and dissemination of information about their availability must be given the highest priority by State agencies such as DED and DEC rep RESOLUTION NUMBER 3: REVENUE SHARING h` The shift of tax burden from the progressive State income tax to regressive local real property taxes is not a fair or responsible policy for New York State. While we recognize that the Federal Government has in recent years, increased the burden on States and local governments, ouritate's rest should not be a similar transfer down to the local level. The Revenue Sharing Program must be protected, its funding preserved. Having received no increase since 1986, it has not contributed to the State's current deficit problem. Thus, it should not be subject to reduction. Similarly, the integrity of the CHIPS program must - • be maintained,especially if the State's goals represented by the 1988 Transportation Bond Act initiative are to be realized :7. • • I: i RESOLUTION NUMBER 4: WICKS AND CHIPS BIDDING MANDATES • Especially in this time of fiscal crises, cost cutting and State aid reductions, the Legislature and Governor must act to repeal the 60-year old burden of Wicks and the arbitrary outside bidding mandate of the CHIPS program. These mandates waste millions annually, more • now than ever before with the continued growth in town populations necessitating ever _ increasing—capital building and highway project outlays. _ 11 RESOLUTION NUMBER 5: MUNICIPAL ETHICS - . Our Association supports a code of ethics which prohibits conflicts of interest and protects our taxpayers. We support amendments to current standards which will result in a code of conduct which is clear, unambiguous and reasonable and which will continue to permit the adoption of even more restrictive local standards by each town board. The Association of Towns remains opposed to revisions to the municipal ethics standards of the General Municipal Law which would mandate an intrusive annual financial disclosure filing by all town officers or employees. rto RESOLUTION NUMBER 6: IMPACT FEES• In order to more equitably spread the burden of cost now borne almost exclusively by the regressive real property tax, the Association of Towns calls upon the Legislature and Governor to approve enabling legislation which would give local governments the option to impose and collect an impact fee on new development which adversely impacts the capital , infrastructure and service provision capacity of local government.,l�,,, 1, _ RESOLUTION NUMBER 7: GOVERNMENT FINANCE INITIATIVES With the erosion of fiscal support from the Federal and State levels, and in consideration of the current State budget deficit, local governments need added flexibility in financing essential local projects. •.., : . . The Association supports amendments to General Municipal Law, §109-b provbions to permit the option of the financing of real property capital projects through the use of the installment purchase mechanisms. •Also, the Association supports repeal of the Constitutional mandate referred to as the "50% Rule" which requires equal payments of - principal throughout the entire term of any debt issue,and again requests the same enabling authority now enjoyed by cities and villages for the option to impose a gross receipts tax on utilities. e 2 • . - • • • RESOLUTION NUMBER 8: PRIMARY POLLING PLACES The Association of Towns supports Election Law legislative amendments which would allow • for the consolidation of polling places in a primary election. This would result in an easing of the financial burden on many town governments which have to conduct primary elections. The November 1990 elections again highlighted the many, many examples of wasted resources which could have easily been saved without any loss of access to the voting booth by the public. Y„Qi/ RESOLUTION /NUMBER 9: SALES TAX The Association of Towns supports legislation which would require counties to share at least 50%of the proceeds of a county sales tax with the general purpose local governments within • the county. Town government is a primary provider of services to the business community that generates the sales tax. As preliminary results from the 1990 Census indicate, population in towns throughout our State continues to grow. The amount of sales tax revenue generated in towns continues to increase; in many if not most instances, the great majority of sales tax generated in a county comes from businesses located in town areas. Town government deserves equitable treatment in the distribution of this important source of revenue. RESOLUTION NUMBER 10: CONDOMINIUMASSESSMENT The State Division of Equalization and Assessment has reported a tax shift of more than $38 million annually as a consequence of Section 339-y of the Real Property Law. That section calls for assessing condominiums artificially as if they were rental property rather than individually based on their market value. The Association of Towns again calls for legislation which would amend the Real Property Law to eliminate the preferential aspects of condominium assessment. �„ -„ , o RESOLUTION NUMBER 11: ASSESSMENT REVALUATION The Association requests consideration of legislative or rulemaking changes which would assure that use of equalization rates in determining special franchise assessments will not cause an inequitable shift in tax burden onto residential properties when municipalities undertake a revaluation program. 3 Cessessar ■ ;1 TOWN OF ULYSSES • PLANNING BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 18 , 1991 7 :20 P .M . • • PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Richard Garner , Geraldine Keil , Seville Reulein , Roland Reynolds , Budd Stover ; Secretary Rita Brown : Zoning/Building Insp .- Ale:: Rachun . Others Present : Thomas Reitz , John Czamanske . Chairman , David Tyler called the meeting to order . A memorandum from the Tompkins County Planning Department was passed around that announced that the Southern Tier East Regional Planning Board would be sponsoring some workshops on Local Planning and Zoning if any members were interested in attending . • The Master Flan Committee was given a charge by the Town Board to draw up a Master Flan for the Town of Ulysses . Mr . Tyler asked if anyone • from the Planning Board was interested is representing the Planning Board at this Committee . It was agreed that Mr . Tyler would be our representative . In the event that he could not make the meeting , Mr . Garner would sit in for him . Mr . Reitz announced that Catherine Stover would be attending to represent the Town Board . • Mr . Tyler handed out an excerpt taken from the Town Law which spells • out clearly what the Planning Board can and cannot do . • The Planning Board started going through the "Project Approval " section of the "Ulysses Land Use and Development Code" which was e:itracted from the new Zoning Ordinance . It was agreed by the Planning Board that this would be called "The Site Plan Review" . • Section 310 . 1 - The question came up regarding the definition of • "approve . " It was agreed that there must be a majority of the • Planning Board to approve or disapprove . Since there is no Planning Board Permit as such , it was agreed to change " . . .specified activities , by issuance of Planning Board Permits (Zoning Permits issued by the Zoning Officer on the direction of the Planning Board) . " to read " . . .specified activites by resolution , which shall constitute the Board 's decision . " • Section 310 .2 - Applicability . It was agreed that wherever Planning Board Permit appeared , it would be changed to read "Site Plan Review . " There was more discussion as to whether residential should be included in the Site Plan Review . Mr . Rachun suggested that rather than include residential in Site Plan Review , we could use SEORE which allows the Town to designate certain areas as environmentally critical • areas . It was agreed by the Board that we go through this document • with the commercial aspect in mind , and then possibly review it at the end in regards to certain residential concerns . When we submit our final Site Flan to the Town Board , we can make recommendation then to • designate certain areas to be covered by SEORE or that it be f considered by the Master Flan Committee . Mr . Garner had a sample of a Site Flan Review from another township . ® • The Planning Board decided to use this Applicability Section . This section reads as follows with the Planning Board 's recommendations : "All new land use activities within the town shall require site plan review and approval before being undertaken ,' except the following : • 1 . Construction of one- or two-family dwelling and ordinary accessory structure , and related land use activities . (Approved as is by the Planning Board) . • • • . y; Jt • I•L ' $111 • • • 2 . Landscaping or grading which its not intended to be used in connection with a land use reviewable under the provisions of this local law . (Delete completely) 3 . Ordinary repair or maintenance or interior alterations to existing structures or uses . (Approved as is . ) 4 . Exterior alterations or additions to existing structures • which would not increase the square footage of the existing structure by more than 25% ; and having a cost value of less than t5 ,000 . (Delete "and having a cost value of less than $5 ,000 . " Planning Board to reconsider percentage . ) • 5. Nonstructural agricultural or gardening uses not involving substantial timber cutting . • 6 . Signs under 10 square feet . (Delete completely as the • Town of Ulysses has a sign ordinance in place . ) • 7 . The sale of agricultural produce and temporary • structures related to sale of agricultural produce . • - B. Garage , lawn and 'porch sales not exceeding three days. ". If such sales take place more often than three (3) times in any • calender year , site plan approval will be required . (Delete. ) More discussion of this will be continued at next meeting on Monday , February 25. • • • • .) • • • -t . . .h. :t' . . . . . :.• . �( i :lA! !. f•.. .t !• ,1 r•s,rl a•i'l1 4; ' '1.v�-�'y 1:'� q JOINT MEETING TOWN OF ULYSSES VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG February 19, 1991 Present : William Hogan, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Susan Perkins , Peter Meskill , Catherine Stover , Thomas Reitz, Karl Zylich, Marsha Georgia. • Others Present : Christine Springer, Carl Mann, Bill Griswold. Mr. Hogan opened the Joint Meeting of the Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg at 7 : 40PM. Mr. Hogan asked how the situation had been resolved regarding the fencing company that put up the fence at the recycling center. 4` Ms . Perkins stated that she thought that Mr. Hogan and Mr. Bennett were drafting a letter to be sent . Has not been done as yet . Recycling • Composting was discussed. Mr. Reitz will set up a meeting with Tom Richardson from Solid Waste, to attend a Joint Meeting and talk about composting. Justice System Mr. Hogan asked for an up-date on the court system. Mrs . • Springer provided a list of equipment being utilized at the present at both the Village and Town. She also presented a 'wish' list . Mr. Reitz said that he and Mr. Zylich had not had an opportunity to meet to discuss the details . Mr. Hogan said we have discussed space, lease, etc . and need to get going on this . Mr. Zylich said they haven ' t come up with a formal lease at this point . Mr . Hogan said only have a few weeks before this takes place. . .hoping to get some of these questions answered. Mr. Zylich asked if Mr . Hogan had any suggestions for a formal Iease. . .have we discussed this enough to write one up? Mr . Hogan said obviously have to agree upon space; then hammer out details of lease. Mr. Reitz said that is what Karl is asking. . . is it heating, lighting? Mr. Hogan said everything that is included in a standard lease. Do you want to work out some of the details right now? Mr. Meskill said I don't know if the Village has discussed the lease and/or come to a final agreement on exact space requirements and where it 's going to be and I really think the Village Board has to do that before we go wasting a lot of your's or our time. Mr. Hogan asked, didn' t we all agree on space the last time around? Mr. Meskill said he didn' t know what meeting that was and Ms . Perkins said she didn' t recall voting on it . Mr . Meskill stated that in reading over past minutes and seeing Sam's comments , I 'm not interested in getting into a ten year lease until we know how things will work out , one; and number two, not one hundred percent sure why the Village should lease space at a dollar a year if we are going to spend tens of thousands of dollars to protect ourselves from a law suit from the Town. That ' s something that is weighing on everyone's mind, so might as well bring it out . Mr. Hogan said you are talking two different things , Peter. They are two totally separate issues . Mr. Meskill said they are, but is ,, ,.L;. •1. _,•.. . .11j: •,1l..iri\ i .. . u« :. ',t.p��: : 5. .•.f• l.V'1. ..1:.;;i '. . , .. f r.t, 4' Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 2 Joint Meeting February 19, 1991 ,r- they speak of the same thing. Mr. Hogan asked "Do they, do they c really speak of the same thing?" ,r' Ms . Perkins said that people's feelings are clashing over. . .Mr. Hogan said we have been negotiating for some time about our receiving the court system. Pretty much have had verbal • agreement all along that this is going to be the best for • everyone in the community; the consolidation of the two court systems . It 's going to cost the Town more money however, the taxpayer, over the long run, should come out ahead in this proposition. We all believed that and have been working toward . : that end. Has been verbal agreement all along that the best spot for the court is in the Village Hall and there is space available for it . Now you are saying that because of what happened the other night , that all of a sudden it isn' t the best place for the court system and it 's not the best deal for the taxpayers of the c . community. Mr. Meskill said he doesn' t believe he ever said that it was necessarily the best space . Lease it for a dollar a year when it is costing us money , or we can use that space for our building/zoning/planning. . .have no space for them now and they are crying for space. To me the issues do all intertwine. . .we • have a problem where we need to provide space for code enforcement , fire inspection, zoning and/or planning board, and we have nothing for them right now. • Mrs . Duddleston said that space was offered in the Town Hall for those people in exchange for the court space at the Village. Mr . Meskill said he is wondering if it shouldn' t be just the opposite . Easier in my mind to justify one dollar a year lease in that circumstance, because we in fact are duplicating the same services and even have the same personnel in most instances . Mr. Reitz said the personnel also includes the police department , which is a great advantage of having the court next to the Village Police, and the space there is more advantageous for the court system. • Ms . Perkins referred to the joint meeting of January 31 , 1991 . . Feels that the arrangements talked about then would work out the best . Think we could go ahead with that . Mr. Hogan said that had been agreed upon. . .gentlemen 's agreement . • Mr . Meskill said that he feels the Village needs to discuss __ this . . . they will be cutting themselves short for zoning, -. planning . Ms . Perkins said then we need to discuss how we are going to provide that , either here [Town] or there [Village] . Mr. Hogan said that the code enforcement people aren' t in the office that much time anyway. . .have one desk for the different positions , people could share. Mr . Rachun said two desks . • Mr. Meskill said that the zoning, planning, fire. . . people serve both Village and Town. . .have an easier time stomaching, number • one because the same people are doing the same job and number two, it would be giving the Village space that they need, that we don ' t have for that purpose and that would alleviate some space •' you have allocated in this building for that purpose, consequently you could move the justice over here. Mrs . Georgia stated that there are times that the court room _ wouldn' t be large enough to accommodate the case load that the Village will be bringing to the Town. Mr. Meskill said he is • only talking about the court office, not the court room. Mrs . • Georgia said you have to have accessibility to the files at all times ; can' t have your office here and be in the court over 4° F•4 1 f 21•.4 4+*1 ,.,!.:..;/t.'1., t. . . .,t! :.1).1,, 1 N.+t:� J� t S _ . .. .' .. •; Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg At 3 Joint Meeting r:. February 19 , 1991 4. there . Mr . Reitz asked if the lease that he and Mr . Zylich should be . . working on include the building/fire inspector . . . or offices? It was agreed that it should be separate from the court system. Mr . Hogan addressed Mr . Meskill . . .We have been talking about this -• thing for months and this stuff has never come up. . .we have been moving along with this . Mr. Meskill said the problem is that the • past couple of months there has been a cry from people in those departments for space . Ms . Perkins suggested drawing a draft lease up , for the court; maybe some of these other ideas can be ; 1 incorporated as optional plans that we can look at. Mr . Zylich said his thought would be to move the court directly by the court room, it 's a tight space presently, would be t.t. efficient way , Mrs . Georgia reminded Mr . Zylich that you need to consider two judges and two clerks , not one of each. Mr. Hogan said he thought all of this had been resolved; thought this is what we had been doing the last couple of meetings . . . that we had agreed that the office that Christine uses now would be a good place for the clerk to stay and the judges in the office off ; • the court room. . . thought we had that all resolved. . .now we are going to reinvent the wheel . . -- Ms. Perkins said she knows Tom is still in favor of this , he talked to her the other night and was concerned that we don' t get off-track about it . . .don' t know what Sam's feelings are. Hate to see it drag on. Mr. Hogan said we have to make some decisions • pretty quickly, don't have time to let it dragon. We were perfectly happy with the space that was discussed at the last meeting, and everybody pretty much agreed upon it . If you folks as a Board don' t want to.:go along with it, guess then you better let us know. Ms . Perkins said they are going to meet on Thursday and discuss this and finalize their ideas and vote officially . Mr. Hogan said he wished he had known that , could have saved this • meeting tonight . Mr. Reitz said he feels the Town's offer is still a viable offer, • • that the Village's zoning, building, fire inspector is still • valid from the Town here in this building . Mr. Meskill said they would run into the same problem. . . everything they need typed and filed has to be done at the Clerk 's office, so they run into the same problem of running back and forth. Mrs . Georgia said that when this started the Village had a lot of • space and the Town needed additional space and that was one of • the ways to free up that office for additional space and help with our storage problem. The Village said we will do away with • our judicial system, but we have lots of space and will be glad to give you the space . Mr. Reitz said regarding need for . . clerical services , would discuss with the Town Board that need for the Village's code enforcers . Ms . Perkins said perhaps should table this item until the other is ironed. out . One ' question. . .what is your system of personnel supervision; how will . that issue . be :.dealt with. . . for Christine. and Irene? ' .Mr. Reitz said the senior judicial member ; Roger Rector is their supervisor or department . head. Ms . Perkins said she is asking because she is anticipating if there is . a question about performance, because the Village residents complain to the Village. Clerk or the - . • Village - Clerk observes whatever; where. are .the lines of • responsibility. If some aspect of :the Village witnesses or experiences a problem, who do .they go to? Mr. Hogan said they Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 4 Joint Meeting February 19 , 1991 would go to the senior judge. Mr . Hogan asked what else needs to be discussed as far as a lease is concerned. Hours of court was one item, . .Mr . Meskill • suggested that hours be incorporated in the lease for use of court room. . . and to go with length of term the judge is elected. Mr . Hogan disagreed . The list of needs was discussed and Mr . Hogan said he will get the Village a list together before they meet on Thursday . Mr . Meskill asked if the Village will be reimbursed for the equipment that the Village owns and the judicial system wishes to continue to use, or is the Town going to buy new equipment? Mr. Hogan • said we have talked about this a number of times , that the filing • cabinets , etc . would need to be utilized. Mr . Meskill said he didn' t think the Village had talked about it and Ms . Perkins .• said she thinks Peter is asking what kind of monetary value should be attached to the equipment and don' t think we have • discussed that before. • Mr . Hogan said if you are going to have a meeting and you don' t • want us to use some of this equipment why don' t you just make a list of what you don' t want us to use and then we will make arrangements . All of the discussions we have had to date is that we would go ahead and use the office and furniture that is there; but if you want to change that just let us know. • • Mr. Reitz asked if anyone had checked on the liability insurance. Mrs . Duddleston said the agent is out of town and will be checked • on later. Mr. Hogan said he would urge the Village in their deliberations as to what you are going to let us use and not use, to consider the fact that all of this is going to be paid for by the taxpayers . Telling us we can' t use some equipment and telling us to go and get new is not hurting anybody but the taxpayers . . . I would urge you to keep that in mind. Ms . Perkins said she will listen to the concerns as they come out but thinks it can be • worked with. Mr. Mann asked Mr. Hogan if he had used the same thoughts about this law suit you guys have filed against the Village? Mr. Hogan • said that is a separate issue. Mr. Mann said he can' t see the Village writing you a sweetheart deal on the court . Mr . Hogan said wait a minute. . .don' t get me started on that . . .we have been talking about this thing for a long time, have come over a lot a bridges , got a lot of things resolved and this is to the benefit of the taxpayers . Let 's not , because of one issue, some people are thinking one way, throw this down the tube . The only thing you are doing is throwing good money after bad, in my opinion. This is an agreement that is just about finalized, let 's not screw this up for another issue, let 's leave this alone and do it the intelligent , efficient way for the taxpayer . Mr . Mann said he would say the same thing about the annexation, do it for the taxpayer. You are using my taxes to sue me and I 'm using my taxes to defend myself . Mr. Hogan said this isn' t defending yourself , this is being petty. Mrs . Georgia asked if someone would explain to her the legal expenses the Village will incur regarding the Article 78 . Ms . Perkins said the Village will have to defend the argument being sent to the Court of Appeals . Mrs . Georgia said she understood that what has been filed with the County Clerk is what is reviewed and a decision based upon, . .not able to add information. Ms . Perkins said they don ' t know what is involved at this time. Mr. Hogan said that both attorneys need to put together an argument . ' Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 5 Joint Meeting February 19 , 1991 Ms . Perkins said we need to schedule another time when we can get together and sign the lease. Mrs . Duddleston mentioned also inviting a representative from Solid Waste. Mr. Reitz said another group that would like to give a presentation before the joint boards would be County Environmental Management Council/County Planning Board [unique and natural areas within your municipalities] . . . involves master planning and Village and Town zoning and planning boards . Ms . Perkins said a draft of the lease will be sent to the Town of Ulysses so you can respond and get back to the Village. Mr. Hogan said a lease shouldn' t be all that complicated. Mr. Reitz •. suggested a meeting in early March. He and Mr. Zylich will also • meet . Mr. Hogan asked if March 5th would be good for the next meeting at 7 :00PM. Hearing no further business the meeting was adjourned at 8 :55PM. • Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia • • Town Clerk pm AIL ':t i;,. ..i:nf .:i :!s�:TL ! ri.;}.:_.ir.-.:r.s _. 1_n4:. ..L7...,"" .!,�,: T`->.___?,- :.1•,. .�� TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 25 , 1991 7 :30 P .M . • PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Geraldine Veil , Seville Reuiein Roland Reynolds , Budd Stover ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Incp .-- Ale,: h'achun . :r Chairman , David Tyler called the meeting to order . The minutes were • • corrected and approved . Copies of the SEOR application and Full Environment Assessment Form for the Pleasant Grove Assoc . project were handed out . Planning Board members were asked to review Part II ' (Project Impact and Their Magnitudes) for next week 's meeting . The committee then went back to reviewing the Site Plan Review . It ' was agreed that the following changes would be made under the . • Applicability section : • 4) Exterior alterations or additions to existing structures which would not increase the square footage of the existing structure by more than 25% ; (delete "and having a cost value ' • of less than $5 ,000) ADD : "and not increase the square footage of the structure by more than 2 ,999 square feet and not to exceed the height of the existing structure . " 5) Nonstructural agricultural or gardening uses . (delete "not - involving substantial timber cutting . " 6) delete completely ' ® 7) 04:: as is B) delete completely . Leave in final paragraph of this section to read : "Any person - uncertain of the applicability of this local law to a given land use activity may apply (delete " in writing") to the zoning officer (changed from the planning board) for a written jurisdictional determination . It was also agreed to leave in final paragraph of original 310 .2 section to read : "In all of these cases the review and • approval on the proposed action is the responsibility of the Planning Board , with the administrative assistance of the Zoning Officer . " The Planning Board Committee was in agreement that sections 310 .3 , _, 310 .5 and 319 .6 were acceptable as is . There was much discussion on section 310 .4 as to the time limit being put on the Zoning Officer . The Committee will come back to this section for review . Sections 311 and 312 are pretty straight forward . Number 16 under Section 312 requires more discussion by the committee in regards to "all buffer areas , including existing vegetative cover" . The meeting was adjourned at 9 :30 p .m . . • t;± e • i TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE FEBRUARY 27 , 1991 7 :30 P .M . • PRESENT : Chairman Glenn Applebee ; Master Plan Committee Members - Andrew Rice , Judy Cone , Catherine 1. Stover , John Czamanske , David Tyler , Gary Myers ; • Secretary Rita Brown . ;;. Chairman , Glenn Applebee called the meeting to order at 7 :30 p .m . The general purpose of this meeting was to try to put together some topic areas to include in a "situation statement" of what exists now in the Town of Ulysses . The Master Plan Committee reviewed several areas of the Senecayuga Planning Assoc . Questionnaire Results . Some of • the keywords that came up through this discussion were : people , jobs , income , housing , shopping , recreation , industry , landuse , schools , parks & recreation , • conservation , transportation and agriculture . • • John Czamanske drafted an outline to be used as a guideline for setting up a Master Plan . It was decided that each member should write up a narrative or outline for each of the categories in the Inventory Elements to give us a starting point showing what exists now for each area . It was divided up as follows : Glenn Applebee - Conservation & Open Space David Tyler - Historical ; How Ulysses fits into picture with county & village Judy Cone - Agriculture & Related Industry • Gary Myers - Transportation ; residential land use • John Czamanske - Populations/households • • Dates were set for our neut, meetings : March 20 - 7 :30 p .m . April 3 - 7 :30 p .m . • April 17 - 7:30 p .m . • May 1 - 7 :30 p .m . The meeting was adjourned at 9 :20 p .m . 1 • A• SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING March 2 , 1991 PRESENT: William P . Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby (absent) ;. Councilmembers ; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. • Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 8 : 40 r..m. • • Fostpone.nt ( for 6wks) of Article 78 Mr . Hogan stated that Mayor Thomas Bennett had called him and asked if it were possible to postpone the proceedings of the Article 78 for a time because with new trustees coming on the Village Board they may be for annexation and maybe something could be discussed and negotiated. The Board discussed this possibility. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston the following • resolution; •; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses agrees to delay the process of the Article 78 procedures until April • 15th, 1991. • • FURTHER RESOLVED, - that the Town Board would open a window of- opportunity to the Village Trustees and the • Developer to convene meetings to discuss details of the need and wants of the community. Mr . Hogan aye . Mrs . .Duddleston aye. . Mr. Reitz aye • Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby was absent but he had put in writing and presented it to Mr. Hogan that he was in favor of a delay. Adopted . Spruce Row_ Map The Board discussed the ordering of the map for Spruce Row PUD that was previously discussed. It was discussed as to whether to ask Mr. Weber to. put his intentions of sharing equally the cost of this map in writing to the Board. Mr. Reitz stated that there is a letter requesting a $200 deposit • • before Mr . Ocello would commence work on the map. • • Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover to approve the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approve a voucher in the amount of $200 for a deposit payment to Michael A. Ocello to proceed with map. • FURTHER RESOLVED, that this expense to allocated from the Planning Board contractual . Mr. Hogan . aye . Mr. Reitz, aye. Mrs . Duddleston aye Mrs. Stover aye • r• Special Board Meeting 4'1 2 3/2/91 Adopted Appointment of Representative a) Tompkins Comm. Hospital Board - the hospital has asked the Town to furnish them with a name of someone to represent the Town on the hospital board. Aileen Beers has recommended that John • Golder be recommended for this appointment . (Aileen has contacted Mr . Golder and he has agreed) Mr . Hogan Moved to recommend John Golder as representative to the Tompkins Community Hospital Board as representative from the Town of Ulysses . Seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Unanimously approved. b) County Youth Representative - Mr . Reitz stated that Kate Springer has indicated that she would be interested in being our representative. c) Ulysses Joint Youth Committee - Mr . Reitz advised the Board that Marsha Georgia would represent the community. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston to recommend to the County that Kate Springer be the representative to the County Youth Board and that Marsha Georgia be recommended to the Youth Committee be the representative for the community. Unanimously • approved. ACC Senior Citizens Discount The Board discussed and reviewed the forms giving the senior citizens a 10% discount on their ACC bill . Acc and the T .C. Senior Citizens had sent applications forms that would have to be filled out and than reviewed to see who would qualify for this discount and only those names that qualify would be sent to ACC. The Board decided to table this until it could be presented to • the Village due to the fact that the Village has a separate contract with ACC. The Board felt that it would be confusing to residents to have this only available to Town residents . The Town will urge the Village to pass this available discount for Village senior residents also. Town Repairs • Mr. Hogan stated that there are several places that are in need of repair --floor tile, the ceiling and the removal of the insulation above the drop ceiling . Mr . Reitz stated that some changes will have to take place seeing that most likely the court system will end up over in the Town Hall . He suggested that Mr . Rachun and Mr . Hogan share an office and bring Ms Vanderbuilt up to the front office for a couple of reasons . One Ms vanderbuilt shares the use of the computer with the clerk and this would save the moving it from office to • office. Second Mr . Rachun has many customers that come in to conduct business on building and zoning and it gets very congested with his customers and the clerks customers . Also the back office could be used for a jury deliberation area and a place where attorneys could meet with there clients if needed. Mr. Reitz stated that a window should be put into this back office . Mr. Hogan commented on the floor tiles and the ceiling and with all the budget cuts we will not be able to do this new. Mr. ; Reitz stated that at some point we are going to have to do what was done years ago -- hands on experience and I am willing to volunteer my Saturdays and Sundays or evenings to work on these things . Putting in a window is no big deal . Mr. Hogan stated that we had the moisture problem last year and we need to get Herb Austic to cut some vents in the roof so that the moisture '.i T Special Board Meeting 3 3/2/91 can get out of or inbetween the roof and the fake ceilings and find the vent for the bathrooms . Mrs . Georgia asked if there would be any way to provide sometype of storage overhead? Mr. Reitz stated that we have to take a good look at some long range plans for this building either expansion on the back or possible selling the building and going elsewhere. Mrs . Duddleston stated that we have to do something about the building soon. Mr. Hogan stated that we will not have the bucks to redo anything on a major basis and what we might do is get someone in here on a weekend and take up some of the tiles in the entry way and use that tile to patch places where it is broken and put some new tile in that front entrance. Get someone to fix up that ceiling and maybe take that insulation that is up above the ceiling tiles 1.: down. Have a work bee within the Town to do this . Maybe paint the ceiling tiles while they are down. Mrs . Duddleston stated she would help do this . Mr. Reitz stated that the condition of the building reflects on the Town. Mr. Hogan asked the Board to be thinking about this before the next meeting. Hearing no further business the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia AminseSIIMMINalIMIIMNImisitionwommi■mal i r,. TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH 4 , 1991 •+ 7 :30 F .M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Geraldine Keil , Seville Reulein , Roland Reynolds , . Budd Stover ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building insp .- Alex Rachun . OTHERS PRESENT : Mr . James Gulledge and Mr . Forbes Pleasant Grove Associates The meeting was called to order at 8 :00 p .m . The purpose of this . meeting was to review the proposal put forth by Pleasant Grove Associates . Mr . Gulledge and Mr . Forbes were there to present their plan . They plan to build only one building to start with , even though the PUD • a asks for four buildings . This building would be the building shown ;' closest to the road . The existing driveway would be used until other buildings and parking lots are built . They would like to start construction this summer . They were unsure of the exact use of the buildings. They would like to use part of the building for their own business , but didn't have - any definite plans for the rest of the buildings. The Planning Board asked if they really wanted to keep the house and • barn included in the PUD. If it is left in , if any plans were made to • alter these structures , it would have to come before the Planning Board for approval . Mr . Gulledge decided they would like to keep the house and barn separate fom the PUD . The Planning Board then went through the PUD application . It was decided that before the Planning Board could give approval for this . • PUD , we would like more information . The Planning Board asked that . the boundaries be reestablished to show the house and barn to be excluded from the plan (in reference to #3 .) The Planning Board also asked that they re-write the proposed usage , and exclude "certain outside usuage . " They were also asked to spell out the exact location of the building and give more information as to exact height of _ building . In #16 , it was mentioned that they would like to put a buffer of trees around thu house . The Planning Board asked that this ._ be shown on the plan . The Planning Board also asked for more ' • information regarding location and type of outdoor lighting . The Planning Board asked that the above issues be addressed and presented to the Planning Board on Monday , March 18 , 1991 at 7 :30 p .m . • - The Planning Board will meet again next week , Monday , March 11 to work - •- on Site Plan Review. • • The meeting was adjourned at 10 :00 p .m . :. I • . . . :- 1 •l.: . 1 •1 i °)' `� , , :i.� ..•_�:�t•yf,l i�...'C� .. :.r.:.. =1e:...a N ..14i.`.' 1 �. � V. " .1, • r i® ' is' .,r. TOWN OF ULYSSES/VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG JOINT MEETING March 5 , 1991 Present : William Hogan, Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn i.,- Duddleston, Peter Meskill , Karl Zylich, Sam Demas , Susan Perkins , Marsha Georgia. • Others Present: Bill Griswold, Carl Mann, Bob Brown/Zoning, Roger Rector, Christine Springer. •,, Mr. Hogan opened the Joint Meeting of the Town of Ulysses/Village Iof Trumansburg at 7 : 30PM. Whitmore Fence Mr. Hogan read a letter he had written to Whitmore Fence dated March 1, 1991 , as agreed upon at the last Joint Meeting . The Village members said they discussed this at their last meeting and agreed to pay their half ($75 .00 ) . Mr . Hogan said it was agreed that we didn' t owe the $150 . and wouldn' t pay. Discussion ensued. Village members apologized to the Town for not getting • back prior to the letter being sent . Town members decided to . • discuss this further at their next Regular Town Board Meeting. Mr . Reitz met with Marian and Catherine re moving the dumpsters • closer to the gate; asked if . agreeable with the Village . . . to be just during the muddy season. Everyone agreed. Judicial System Mr. Hogan asked the Village members what they had decided about space . Mrs . Perkins said that the following resolution was • adopted by the Village Trustees : A RESOLUTION was presented by Trustee Meskill , seconded by Trustee Demas to lease the Town of Ulysses court space in the present consultation room, judges bench area and the storage closet area for a lease of three years for a fee of $1.00 a year, subject to final drafting and approval of lease to commence April 1, 1991 . -' Mrs . Perkins said this was approved on February 1, 1991. Mr. Reitz asked if the existing .furniture would be included. Mr. Meskill said that would be negotiated. Mr. Hogan said then the original agreement that we made the meeting before last for the space where the Court Clerk is at present and having the judges - in the little room off the court room, that agreement that we had reached, you have scratched that? Mrs . Perkins said that was an informal agreement, this is the � •.. formal position. Mr. Hogan said it was an agreement . . .Mrs . Perkins said it was the consensus at that time, but this is the formal decision. Mr. Demas said it sounded like the best idea at that time. Mr. Hogan said he was just trying to find out what happened to the agreement we .had at one time; it was an . agreement . . .Mr . Reitz said it ..was a gentlemen's agreement . Mr. • Hogan said he was disappointed that it has fallen through, if you give someone an agreement , it 's an agreement . Disappointed that it didn' t hold water. . Mr. Hogan asked Judge Rector if he is familiar with the space being discussed tonight . Judge Rector said that what is presently being offered is not acceptable to the court. Mr. Hogan said that obviously you can' t get four people in that little room off the court room; desks on the platform certainly wouldn' t be private. If we can' t come up with space that is acceptable we will probably decide to bring everything over here 4' t,. V � i .; �. r. p ''. Vi'. °+' '�n..�.a''•-,t. , `'^' :F : •r ) ,ti.n .i: Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 2 Joint Meeting March 5 , 1991 • [Town Hall ] . This is your final offer? Mr . Demas said yes . The important thing to us [Village] is to have the front office which is currently occupied by the justice operation, available for Planning/Zoning/Code Enforcement , that kind of thing. If you can think of another space to add to what we have offered; perhaps a small space upstairs . =' Mr. Hogan asked how often the planning people sit down at a desk during the week? Mr . Demas said he couldn' t give a good answer. Right now Alex works here [Town Hall ] . Mr. Hogan said Alex works here about two hours a day and a couple hours on Saturday, so as far as a whole lot of desk space, it isn' t required. The Fire Inspector doesn' t spend a half hour a week here and Zoning spends one hour a month. . . those positions are not going to involve a lot of people in the office. Looked the other day at what is available; realize that upstairs is not handicapped accessible. What about the large room upstairs; put in desks and leave the rest of the room for you folks to use as a conference room and have the Mayor and code enforcement people share the office where ";. the court people are now? Little room off the court room could have a desk and be utilized for handicapped accessible visits . Mr. Demas said that given the discussion the Village had, that would be an acceptable plan. What you have is our best thinking on it , with the possibility of a storage room upstairs that could •. be converted into an office for the judges . Mr. Meskill said he would prefer that the storage area upstairs be used for storage -., and not office space. J . Mr. Reitz stated that he feels the Village offer to be unacceptable, not only the space but the three year lease. . . talked about a ten year lease. . . this resolution is 5 , - unacceptable to me. Mrs . Duddleston said that she agrees with Mr. Reitz . Mr. Weatherby said we are hurting for space. . . don't know what our alternatives are. Mr. Hogan said he will take a motion and get this resolved. ` Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston the following: RESOLVED: that the Town of Ulysses rejects the resolution of February 21st from the Village of Trumansburg and the offer of court space, and FURTHER RESOLVED: that the Town of Ulysses holds , for the immediate future, the judicial proceedings in the Town of Ulysses Town Hall . Mr. Reitz said he used the wording ' for the immediate future' . If the Village, knowing our needs and problems , wishes to amend their resolution in the future , we are amenable to a reconsideration of that . • Mr. Hogan said he very disappointed in the Village board members . . . thought we had their word on something and seemed like a fine idea and all of a sudden it isn' t . . .been trying to foster a spirit of cooperation between the Town and Village, but doesn' t seem to be working out too well , which is unfortunate for • • everyone involved, especially the taxpayers . We are picking up a budget item that is around $25 ,000 . , what seemed to be a good idea isn' t any longer . Mr. Demas said that even though the space part of it didn' t work out as well as we all might have wished, do believe that the merging of the court systems will save the taxpayers money in the end . Shouldn ' t loose sight of the major fact when talking about one of the minor details . Don ' t want to understate the importance of space, but it isn ' t the major issue. y I • Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 3 Joint Meeting March 5 , 1991 Mr . Hogan said it might be minor to you Sam, but it 's not minor • to ua . I£ you will recall we were the one's that initiated the discussion regarding the merger of the court system to create • efficiency for both the Town and Village . In any case, we still feel that it is a good idea, and the taxpayers will benefit in the long run. Hearing no further discussion, Mr. Hogan called for a vote on the • •• motion. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • Adopted. =1 Mr. Hogan asked the thoughts on equipment . Mr. Meskill said that • if you need it we were willing to provide the vast majority of the equipment that is in the court office now. Mr . Demas said that given the changed plans concerning space, take a look at • what space you have available, what equipment on the list you might need and would fit over here, and let us know. We are • agreeable to providing equipment to support this operation. The Board's feeling is that we made an agreement to provide equipment , heat and lights and we-stand .by that . -You: can take • the equipment over here at no charge. There are a couple of items we want to keep, but it 's a very small part . . . scanner and • the storage cabinet on the: wall . 7 Mr. Hogan suggested the Village go through the list and mark off • what they want to keep. Mr. Demas said it 's easier to say that you can have everything on the list except this - thing - called a regency scanner/pager .and- a custom-made storage cabinet . : . Mr. Demas said they will cross off those: items . : :Mrs . Springer said there isn' t a pager, just a scanner. Mr: -Demas said the list stands except for the two .items . : ::The plan has changed, . you . aren' t going to take us up on: the -offer of space, ttheat .and lights , so maybe you don.' t need all the equipment . . . is it worth • looking at it? Mr. Reitz said the Town will review with the Court what their needs are and let the Village know. Mrs . Duddleston suggested putting that : in the- form of- a legal document. . .Mr. Meskill said they: will : : . - tesolution of March 2 , 1991 Discussion ensued regarding the following resolution passed by the Town Board on March 2 , 1991 . RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses agrees to delay the process of the Article 78 procedures until April 15 , 1991 . FURTHER RESOLVED: that the Town Board would open a window of opportunity to the Village Trustees and the Developer to convene meetings to discuss details of the need and wants of the community . • Mr. Hogan asked if the developer was in fact denied the opportunity to discuss the project with the Village and Mr. Demas • said Yes . • Mr. Demas stated that what is in the best interest of the developer is to withdraw the petition; since he doesn' t have the good sense to do it , the Town should do it for him by withdrawing the lawsuit ; then it all goes back to square one and starts over. Hopefully everyone has learned something in the process , • .A 40 Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 4 '` , Joint Meeting March 5 , 1991 • especially the developer . • One of the things to do would be for the developer , prior to submitting plans or filing a petition, to sit down with the municipality and discuss the needs and desires of the community . . . that ' s what we would all learn. . . then you go back as the developer and draw up the petition and submit it . That is the basic lesson that Mr. Auble hasn' t learned and you [Town] are keeping him from learning that lesson by prolonging and keeping alive this flawed, faulty, stinking petition. Mrs . Duddleston asked why Mr. Demas was against having the Article 78 delayed until April 15th. . . this gives y p you time to sit down and talk to us . . .both boards and the developer . Mr. Demas said the original resolution was better . . . it said that if we agreed to talk to the developer you' ll drop the suit . The Town Board said that still holds . Mr . Demas said what we will do is agree to sit down to a series of meetings with the developer beginning the day after this lawsuit is dropped. Mr . Reitz said that once the lawsuit was dropped then there is no really obvious mandate for the developer and Town and Village to sit down and talk. The whole problem with the annexation question, the • municipalities cannot start the annexation proceedings , the property owner can. We have no right to say we are going to take Smith Woods , Fairgrounds , Halsey Farms and annex it to the • Village, only the property owner can do that . Mr . Meskill asked if Mr. Reitz was sure about that and Mr. Reitz said he is 90% • plus sure of that . Mr . Meskill said he finds it strange that the Town is chastising • the Village for not talking to the developer, yet when people came and talked about it at a meeting you told them that a public • hearing had taken place, and they couldn' t talk about it again. You keep saying to us that we aren' t willing to talk to the developer and yet when constituents come in here to discuss the annexation Board members from your Board bring up the fact that • it is not a public hearing . Mr . Reitz asked what he was referring to and Mr. Meskill said the night you voted for the annexation to sue the Village there were many residents here who wanted to discuss it . Mr. Meskill said it is clearly recorded in your minutes that it was brought up by a Board member that it was not a public hearing. That was true, it wasn' t, however it was a normal , open Board Meeting of the municipality and seems like an issue like that , the taxpayers should have a say in what is going _ on . Mr . Hogan said we had 90 days to talk to our constituents and for them to talk to us; we had a public hearing and I -- • personally talked to a lot of people and the majority of people I talked to felt that a good development , properly done, would certainly help . It ' s not as though people didn' t have a chance to discuss this . Quite a few people did speak at that meeting, had a lot of other business to take care of that night and did not want to go to midnight on that one issue. We asked through the Free Press for people to write to us and give us their opinion, so people have had a chance to talk to us about it . Mr . Meskill said there were two separate issues; the people had a chance to talk about annexation and then the step to sue the Village is one step farther in that process . Mr . Demas stated that he thinks the Town realizes that it is a very unpopular step • and one that there will be no winner . . .make the whole process even more nasty . Finding the right development for that land will be harder , more costly and take longer if you go this route • than it is if you kill this annexation petition and start over again . Mr . David Auble arrived and Mr . Reitz reiterated to him the Village 's proposal . Mr . Reitz told David Auble that Mr . Demas • Town of. Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 5 Joint Meeting March 5 , 1991 has suggested that the Town drops the Article 78 proceedings, that the developer can start back over at square one discussing the project with the Village and the Town. Mr . Demas added that basically he feels that there won' t be any winners in this process , that no matter who wins this Article 78, we are all •, going to end up looking kind of foolish, spending a lot of taxpayers money, spending a lot of time, and if the Town should "win this" , basically you have to come to us and get the property zoned and get the project approved. Having been through this ••• legal process , we may not be in the most positive frame of mind . So what really should happen, and I wish I had thought to mention this , Bill on February 12th did list , it seems like, these are the options we have, and the one that he forgot to mention is i. that the developer could withdraw the petition, and that I think is what should probably happen, that the developer should withdraw the petition and then either implicitly or explicitly in so doing; it was a flawed petition to begin with, it wasn' t well • thought out , the process that led up to presenting it was not in . sort of the best developer style, it wasn' t designed to get the best results and so having withdrawn that petition, then you will what you have every right to do, and what we fully expect you to • do, and that ' s come back and start talking again, but do it in a • way that Dave Auble would do it , rather than in a way that Bill Auble has done it twice now. Ms . Perkins said four times . Mr. Demas said well right , many times , but this time he has the good sense to let you in but too late . Mr . Auble said that he definitely wasn' t involved in the original petition. Mr. Hogan said Dave, one other comment . . .before we were talking about what has happened with this whole process , and I mentioned that we had a person come in tonight who was asking to be considered for the I II Planning Board who happened to be involved in economic development and he said that he thinks it is really important for the municipality to sit down with the developers and tell them what they would like to see happen in a community . Market the piece of land; obviously you didn' t have an opportunity to do that . Mr . Demas said the essential point here is that should happen before the petition for annexation is filed. Mr . Auble .. said he asked about that and doesn' t recall the precise answer, but it seems that there was some problem with attempting to have a discussion before the petition. . . I don' t know. Mr . Meskill said the petition was served on us on a Friday afternoon and over .. here on a Saturday, I believe. Mrs . Georgia said that Bill Auble • and his attorneys had come months prior and discussed with our Planning Board and Town Board. David Auble said I 'm not an attorney and 'm operating with about half the information. . . seems like we are in a particular situation here that people of good sense could sit down and say, here is a given and what can we do with it to go forward. Don' t know if your suggestion is the right route to go. Guess my feeling is that I would like to sit down as the developer and discuss the situation in depth with the Village and Town, either as separate entities or jointly and just sort of lay out the various priorities of where are we. . .what do we need to accomplish here. . .maybe there is a good reason not to have development and maybe there is a good reason to have development and a good reason to have certain types , a certain mix of product up there to help the community in general and still make it economically feasible for the land owner. We just have never had that discussion. While we are considering your suggestion, Sam, I think it shouldn' t prohibit • us from at least having that kind of discussion at the same time, because regardless of whether it takes place, you are sort of asking us to erase everything and go back to square one and sit • down and discuss . . . . I say we sit down and discuss it with you now, while we are considering withdrawing the petition and going back to square one. Maybe some new input and ideas . . . if nothing else this Article 78 is sort of forcing people to give a lot more serious thought to the potential of development and what should . . ... ,r . ni'.�...� .1 .. r yr yr.• .♦ ,.:,L .. 1/4:' ,I.'::-.,. ..(.! . .. '1 i:,.: •:r_:. Y : +:4 /✓•y.7.:;'+ Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 6 • Joint Meeting March 5 , 1991 actually be there . Mr . Demas said he doesn ' t think it is carrying the process • • forward, think it is holding it back and thinks it is giving weight and seriousness to what I feel is a flawed petition for annexation and really think we have been consistent in saying that the time for us to have an in depth discussion with the • • developer was before the petition was submitted and it would be quite a reversal on our part , now that this thing has been taken even further in what we think is an unproductive direction, for us to begin those discussions . If my suggestion isn' t taken, and you the developer would withdraw, or the Town withdraw this suit , then we will have no choice but to fight it aggressively and we ; feel fairly confident that we will win, and feel fairly confident that we will then be faced with you across the table with that , history behind us on top of everything that went before plus the • expense to the taxpayers and the inevitable damage in relations "` between the two municipalities that I find very distressing and the citizens of both municipalities find it very distressing. • ' Mr . Reitz stated that he doesn ' t think David can speak on behalf of Bill Auble or the attorneys . Feels that the Article 78 is at • least putting pressure so that the Village at least considers this kind of scenario , and again my friendly amendment to the • February 12th meeting was to proceed on this kind of path. Would .. suggest that Dave talk with Bill Auble and attorneys . We have, by Board resolution, agreed to a time delay, guess you indicated • [Village] that Marty Shapiro has said March 25th, we said April 15th. Think this whole process can proceed. ' Mr . Demas said go back to the original resolution that says if • the Village indicates a willingness to talk to the developer that the Town will drop the suit . I say drop the suit , and then we will be willing to talk. Mr . Hogan said you are willing to talk _ to the developer? Mr. Demas said after the suit is dropped. Ms . Perkins said you didn' t get that information? Mr . Hogan said No. Ms . Perkins said we made a formal decision on this again, on • Thursday night at the same meeting , that we would agree to your resolution. Mr. Reitz said maybe you can focus upon that . Ms . Perkins continued. . . to tell you that on Thursday night , February • 28th, we did formally make a decision that we agreed to meet with the developer, once the Article 78 petition was dropped. Mr. • Reitz said we never heard that . Mrs . Duddleston said our resolution of March 2nd was brought about because Mayor Bennett had talked to Mr. Hogan and indicated that perhaps when the two newly elected Trustees come on board April 1st , that they would have different thoughts about this annexation. . . so that is why we • postponed the procedure until April 15th . Mr . Hogan asked for this information in writing . Ms . Perkins said she would make sure that it gets to us . Mr. Reitz said that _ if that had come to us , perhaps our resolution of March 2nd would have possibly been different . Mr . Hogan said we have a Regular Board Meting next week, why don' t you [Village] get us something in writing, in the form of a resolution. Mr. Meskill said he didn' t think it was done in the form of a resolution and Mr . Demas agreed. Ms . Perkins said she would get the minutes of the - meeting, will talk to the Village Clerk tomorrow. Mrs . Georgia I said that if it isn' t in the form of a resolution it is just heresy, it is the same as the discussion about court space, it ' s just heresy discussion. Ms . Perkins agreed and said she appreciates the cautiousness . Mr . Meskill said he doesn' t think they had a formal motion. Mr . Demas said we can get it to the Town after the Village meeting Monday night . Mr . Hogan said we meet on Tuesday night at 8 : 00PM, you get us something in writing, signed by the Mayor, yourselves , whomever, in the form of a IIIIIRSIISIIIIIIMMINIIIISIMININSMINLEIMIMIllilialillifair • is _ <, �. . , ,•�...... .,:e' •1.: i." r . Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 7 Joint Meeting • March 5 , 1991 resolution. Ms . Perkins asked if she understood that the Town had instructed or asked the Town Attorney request an adjournment . ,f., of this until April 15th? Mr. Hogan said Yes . Mr. Reitz said ' after that it takes months to go through the judicial . . process . . . just so you understand that the Town's case is very strong also, but again, in the sense of cooperation, we are truly willing to look at this . . Hearing no further discussion Mr. Hogan said we will expect to see communication from the Village before Tuesday night . Added that minutes would not be sufficient , based on experience. Joint Youth Commission Ms . Perkins said Sharon is finalizing a claim to the County for $5,245 . , half of that will be reimbursed to the Village and then half of that will come to the Town ($1, 311. 25) . This is for special projects that UYU had contracted to provide, on a one- time basis , summer youth employment, special youth activities for the summer and fall , developing a youth advisory council . It was approved in late April and extends to December 30th. These were 1990 expenditures . .. Mrs . Duddleston announced that the Chamber of Commerce breakfast, - to discuss the Halseyville Bridge with DOT, will be at Barry's ..._ Family Restaurant at 7 : 30AM. The next Joint Meeting will be April 11, 1991 at 7 : 30PM at the Village Hall . Hearing no further business , Mr . Meskill moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Unanimously approved, the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk pm . i • Trion VSLLAQS U �, • 4141v YORK 140g0 •-e A RESOLUTION was presented by Trustee Meskill, seconded by Trustee Demas to lease the Town of Ulysses court space in the present consultation room, judges bench area and the storage closet area for a lease of three years for a fee of $1.00 a year, subject to final drafting and approval of lease to commence April 1, 1991. Vote: Trustee Meskill Aye Trustee Demas Aye Trustee Zylich Aye Mayor Bennett Aye Trustee Perkins Nay I hereby certify the above resolution was approved by the Village • Board, Village of Trumansburg at the Adjourned Meeting on February 21, 1991. Witness my hand and the seal of said Village this fifth day of March, Nineteen Hundred and Ninety—one. ovawo-t. . Sharon Housworth Village Clerk Village of Trumansburg • Tela hone 607) 387-6501 56 East Main Street, P.O, Box 718, Trumanaburg, NY 14656 p TOWN OF ULYSSES • PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH 11 , 1991 7 :30 P .M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Geraldine 1','eil , Budd Stover ; Secretary Rita Brown . The meeting was called to order at 7 :40 p .m . to continue work on the Site Plan Review . The first section discussed was Section 310 .4 . Rewrite as follows.: "After receipt of the Planning Board 's decision , the Zoning Officer shall take the action directed by the Board . Those actions are to issue , issue with modifications , or deny a Site Plan Approval . Actual occupancy may not take place until a Certificate of Occupancy has been issued by the Zoning Officer complying with conditions specified by the Planning Board . " Section 312 - #21 - There was much discussion about adding some • statement about "balance between developed and undeveloped space . " We • will come back to this to discuss when everyone is present . Section 313 - Leave as is . Dave Tyler reminded everyone that on March 14 the Tompkins County Planning Department would be holding a seminar on Zoning Ordinances . On Aprii 11 they will be holding a seminar on SEAR that we might find •• helpful . Section 314 . Change last paragraph , last sentence to read : " If a public hearing is considered desirable by the Planning Board the public hearing shall be conducted with 45 days of the receipt of the preliminary proposal and shall be advertised in the official newspaper at least 5 days before the public hearing . • ' Section 315 . Change first sentence to read : "Within 45 days of the hearing , (or of the receipt of a preliminary site plan and occupancy proposal , if no hearing is held) the Planning Board shall act on it . " Section 316 . Approved as is . • Section 317 . 1 - Approved as is . SecLiori 317.2 - Approved as is . Section 317 .3 - Approved as is . • • Section 317 .4 - Approved as is . Section 317 .5 - Approved as is . Section 318 - Approved as is . Section 319 - Reserved for later use . Section 320 - Flood Hazard Overlay Zone - we will need to refer to • Alex Rachun about this . Dave Tyler asked Rita Brown to type up the revised copy of the Site Plan Review to hand out at the next meeting , March 18th . The meeting was adjourned at 9 :20 p .m . . TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING March 12 , 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine , • Stover , Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; James Meeker , Highway Superintendent ; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present : Richard Durling, David Auble, Guy Krough, Steve Proctor/Free Press , Chris Delaney , Pam Stonebreaker/SPCA, and others . • Mr . Hogan called the Regular Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8 : 00PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes as follows : Adjourned Board Mtg. 2/2/91 ; Special Board Mtg. 2/7/91 ; Joint , • Village/Town 2/7/91; Regular Town Board Mtg. 2/12/91; Joint • Village/Town 2/19/91; Special Board Mtg. 3/2/91 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved. Trumansburq Fire Department .• Mr . Durling submitted his report on number of calls (see attached) . Had a drill on Waterburg Road, burned down the Loan house. . . excellent experience/training session. Representative James Mason • Absent • Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve claims #76-110 in the total amount of $33 ,079 . 83 , moved by Mr. Weatherby , seconded by Mr . Reitz . Unanimously approved. Supervisor's Financial Report Not available. Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Pam Stonebreaker, Director SPCA, introduced other SPCA - representatives and stated that they were here to discuss the SPCA contract. In the Fall we requested a 20% increase or $6, 879 . 00 for the 1991 year . We were led to believe that a 10% increase was what the Town was actually looking at . The SPCA was in agreement with that and later in January, Mr . Hogan contacted us with a 7% increase which would be' $6134 . 00 . We are here to discuss the reasons why we feel that the 10% increase is warranted. Because of the services now provided, it could be translated into $9800 . per year. Feeling that much of an increase would be difficult for any Town to handle, have come up with graduated increases; thus the 20% this year. Ms . Stonebreaker reviewed services, etc. for the Town Board. The difference between the 7% and 10% will be . 15 per licensed dog . for a total of $114 . 74. We are disturbed that the 10% increase - was lowered to 7%. There are a few options; could bill you for • every call in the Town of Ulysses . . .would amount to more than the 10% increase; could also stop providing dog control services for the Town. Whatever agreement is reached tonight, the SPCA Board has authorized me to stop all dog control services seven working days from tonight if an agreement isn' t reached. If you wish to discuss it further, we can give you until 5 :00PM tomorrow night . • • i, .....c :: r,,,• .', 14,s. . 't' r .w:. ^'y' .,. . .. :' , . 14. . ; .i" W. n (4 '•i :. :• i c:, Town of Ulysses 0 2 Regular Town Board Meeting March 12 , 1991 Mrs . Georgia said there has been a very good working relationship • with the SPCA, however in the past year, we rarely see an officer more than once a month and usually because I ' ve called them to •. pick up the list to send out reminders . Some of the items you • have listed , the community would receive those services whether •;r we have a contract or not . . . surrender dogs , and such. Ms . Stonebreaker said that perhaps the officers aren ' t aware of • the clerk' s hours , and can certainly go over that with them. ' Couple of things to do also, to help with revenue. . . have another enumeration (Town is very good about this in the past) and also work with the SPCA to get people to claim their dogs when • impounded. • Mr . Hogan said that he doesn' t recall a promise of a 10% • increase , believe we said we would consider it at the time . We • understand that the SPCA is in a bind, we are facing some severe cuts also . . . our revenue sharing is being eliminated, which is • about $32 ,000 . per year; our highway funds , which were $34 ,000 . • will be cut by $20 , 400 . We have to decide tonight what we have to do and would suggest that we pay the additional $114 . and continuing with the SPCA but seriously taking a look at the . service for next year 's budget to see whether or not we can afford this type of a program. Mr . Reitz said he agrees , but wouldn' t like to get into a situation where we are being • threatened that the Town has to do this by 5PM tomorrow or we will loose our contract . Mr . Weatherby said it doesn' t do the SPCA any good to start loosing all their contracts because they will be in worse shape than they are now. -- Mr . Reitz asked for the figures . Ms . Stonebreaker said the contract amount the SPCA is requesting for 1991 is $6369 . 96 . Mr . Reitz said we had budgeted $6256 .00 , the difference being • $114 . 76 . Mr. Reitz asked where the added monies will come from and Mr . Hogan Said the Board will have to work on that . Hearing • no further discussion Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to increase the SPCA contract by $114 .76 or a total of $6, 369 . 96 for the year • 1991, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Mr . Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye ._ Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Mr . David Auble mentioned that Guy Krough, SPCA attorney, is also • representing William Auble and if there are any questions regarding the Article 78 , perhaps he can help. Mr . Hogan asked the Board if there were any questions about the Article 78 procedure. Mr . Reitz asked if Ms . Bixler should consider working with other attorneys to prepare for the hearing . Mr. Krough said if Elizabeth is amenable to having someone work with her , that is . fine . . . think she is extremely competent and one of the best choices the Town could have made. Second issue is , we had • originally come to you and addressed this matter several weeks • ago and you indicated there were a number of possible scenarios . . . one of which allowed Bill and Dave , as the proposed .. developers , to join in. We currently have a motion to join in on . that behalf , we will also be petitioners with you. . .so we will be working in conjunction with Elizabeth, but at the developers expense , as we said we would, to try to keep your costs down. We • have as much an interest as the Town and what we are really hoping is that we have some leverage to work out something with the Village that is just fair to everybody. My current understanding is that the matter has been put on a two week adjournment pending the Village election and seeing what the new Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting March 12 , 1991 • flavor of the Village board will be . • Mr . Reitz asked for elaboration of the specific date. . . that was 4 confusing . Mr . Krough said his understanding from conversations with both Marty Shapiro [Village] and Elizabeth, is that the new date is March 25 , but there is a general feeling that since the Appellate Division Clerk will only adjourn two weeks at a time, that there might be another adjournment to allow the two new Village board members acclimate themselves to the situation and make a determination as to how they would go. Not sure how firm the 25th is ; four days after the petition was filed our motion to intervene as a party of interest was with the clerk . Mr . Reitz asked if the petitioner can still withdraw his petition at this time with an Article 78 proceedings in the works? Mr . Krough said he believes you have the opportunity to withdraw the petition prior to issue being joined, issue would become joined • by the Village submitting a response; issue could also become joined by us intervening and maintaining and requiring the Village to respond; or issue could be joined by the Court ordering. . . the question really is , what is in the public interest . The public interest standard gives the court extremely broad latitude to do what they think is just . At this point it is very likely you could withdraw it if you chose to do so, but • believe that we were looking to keep costs down and use the process as a way to obtain a water district or some other fair solution so that everyone can work together. Am here, one to answer questions you may have about the Article 78 , but also advise you that my prospective may be slightly • biased; and two to tell you that while we are going through the two week adjournment process , and until the Village makes a decision that they are going to fight or stay, keep your iron in the fire; on the inside Marty Shapiro and I 'm sure some of you may know this , the Village is looking at not only bringing in someone in case they go to the Appellate Division, but they are also looking at how they can settle it without having to go to __. the Appellate Division . Marty' s suggestion to me was to let the new board take a position on the matter and then we will discuss what steps can and cannot legally be done to get the problem solved without having the court come in and having referees • digging around. Think the Village is in a similar position, they want to keep costs down; don' t think they want to go full bore and hire outside council , think they want consulting. Mr. Reitz asked if there was an assurance that the March 25th date can be postponed for an additional two weeks . Mr . Krough said he doesn' t think there are any assurances that it will . No • one is objecting to it , my feeling is that it will be adjourned for another two weeks . Mr. Hogan said we passed a resolution stating we were postponing it until April 15th. . .we are the ones who filed the Article 78 . Mr . Reitz said we aren' t able to do that , according to Guy Krough; have to adjourn it two weeks at a time. OLD BUSINESS Spruce Row Campsite Mr . Hogan asked if Mr. Reitz had heard anything from the map maker . Mr . Reitz said No. Will call and see how he is doing . • Mr. Hogan said the deposit check had been sent and also asked Mr . Reitz to ask him to put in a shaded area for the camping areas . If we have that shaded in we can determine what percentage of the total campsite is for camping specifically. • . ' 1. ' ! '.1a �.r,. `. _ \ 1 !•`,'. .. I. 5, 3 . •r;.{�, ,e'1.• ?r ',r �,i . lI .. ':11t. Y1 ' .1 '�. r. Town of Ulysses 0 4 Regular Town Board Meeting March 12 , 1991 Boute 96 LkWitiag. Mr. Meeker said that reduction of the speed limit has been • denied. As far as lighting, the State won' t put up lights , if the Town wants to they would have to assume the cost . The State at this time does not recommend anything to be done in that area. -1; The State will tell you where to put lights , etc. , but Town has to request that information. Mr. Hogan asked if it would be appropriate to ask Fred Grout for a written report . Mr . Meeker said he had requested one already. Mr . Hogan said he would recommend that this matter be tabled until we receive that report . Mr . Durling said that he would like to go on record as the Fire Chief , if there are any other proceedings regarding this , would be happy to write a letter , help in any way. Judicial System Mr . Hogan said that the judicial system will be housed in the Ulysses Town Hall . Need to meet in an executive session with the judicial department and talk about judges salaries , orders , and details of the clerk's benefits , etc. . Mr. Reitz moved to have an executive session on Tuesday, March 19 , 1991 at 7 :00PM to discuss judicial personnel matters , • seconded by Mr. Weatherby . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Appointment/Planning Board Mr . Hogan stated that another application had been received, • Jerry Perkins . Had talked to David Tyler, Chair, Planning Board, who is anxious to have someone appointed. . .have a lot of work to do. Have interviewed three people; also Bob Bauchle may be interested in retaining his position on the Planning Board. Some discussion ensued re those applicants already interviewed. Mrs . Stover said need to set a time to interview Jerry Perkins . Mr . Hogan suggested adjourning this matter until next Tuesday, March 19th. . .call an Adjourned Board Meeting at 6: 45PM and interview Jerry then. Mrs . Stover said she is concerned about keeping the board in balance . Appointment/Zoning Board of Appeals Mr . Hogan said there were two applicants; Carl Mann, who would like to continue on this Board and we interviewed one other - candidate , Linda Smith. Discussion ensued. Mrs . Stover moved that Carl Mann be reappointed to serve a five year term on the Zoning Board of Appeals , seconded by Mr. Reitz . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye • Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Water Study • Mr . Hogan said he spoke with James Mason. . . fact that this PUD is .t. It* Town of Ulysses 5 • Regular Town Board Meeting March 12 , 1091 r. being considered on the Andree property might help in obtaining funding for water . Had talked with Jim Hansen and said maybe can come up with a reason to get funding for water . Will set up a meeting to discuss this and will notify me and perhaps get someone from the Water Committee to attend also . Also talked • with Cliff Northrup who was instrumental in obtaining water back in 1968 , for the Village . He suggested meeting with the Village and setting up a water district; have that water district help solve some problems . It ' s a good point . They need another pump, another tank . Mr . Hogan asked if anyone had heard from the Water Committee. Mr . Reitz said we should see where they are regarding compiling the results of the survey/at least get an up-date . Auble Annexation s Mr. Hogan stated that he got the impression at the last Joint Meeting with the Village that we said that if they gave us something in writing we would consider dropping the Article 78; something in writing to the effect that they would talk with the developer . The minutes from that meeting on March 5 , 1991 are not yet available. If we gave them our word on that then we should follow through on it . Mr . Reitz said they gave us their word two other times , November -. 26, 1990 and January 31, 1991; both times they reneged on their " word. I don' t agree that we made an agreement with them to do that , we may have considered that they are going to do it ; heard earlier tonight from Guy Krough what the considerations are and a. we said we will wait until the new Village Trustees come on; • don' t think we should do anything about it right now. 1 Mr. Weatherby asked if Mr . Reitz wasn' t the one who had made that ' friendly amendment ' that if they would consider starting conversation with the developers , the Article 78 would be • dropped. - Mrs . Stover read from the March 2nd meeting minutes : 'Resolved, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses agrees to delay the • process of the Article 78 procedures until April 15 , 1991; • Further Resolved that the Town Board will open a window of opportunity to the Village Trustees and the developer to convene meetings to discuss details of the need and wants of the community . ' - Mr . Weatherby asked about the original resolution on the -: annexation. . .don' t remember the date . Mr . Reitz said they haven' t agreed to do that . If we agree to drop the Article 78 proceedings the Village can come right back and say we changed our minds and we aren' t going to do anything. . .we will be right back to where we started from. Mr. Hogan said don' t think, just because they don' t keep their word that we should lower ourselves to their level . . . if we give our word to do this , should keep it . Mr. Reitz said he doesn' t remember taking a motion or a second on it or mating. Il . Mrs . Georgia said that at the meeting of March 5 , the Town didn' t make any of those statements . . . can listen to the tape. . .but Sam Demas keeps saying this is the resolution we passed. If you drop the Article 78 , then we [Village] will talk with the developers . Mrs . Georgia continued. . .what the Town said at that time , the intention was to talk to the developer before the Article 78 is dropped. You [Mr . Hogan] said that Mayor Bennett had talked to you and that he felt that the two new people coming on may have a different opinion and that if you would stop the process until . — - .. , • Ammo" Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting March 12 , 1991 you could talk with them, you might get a different feeling . . .so • I thought that would be the history behind that is not to talk to the Trustees on board now, because you know how they feel , but to wait until the two new ones start . Mr . Hogan said they could listen to the tape . . . asked Mrs . Georgia to get the appropriate tape so they could see if they actually made an agreement or not . • Mr . Reitz said that if we are at an impasse between the two municipalities , I just want the Board to consider this petition • that I put together as a possible solution. Mr. Reitz read the following : Whereas , a petition to annex property to the Village of Trumansburg was received and, Whereas , this petition was reviewed, debated, public hearings held, information solicited from the general public and, Whereas , each respective municipality reached opposing decisions in the question of annexation and, Whereas , to break an impasse of these decisions and possibly avoid a complete Article 78 proceeding from occurring • Therefore, be it resolved that a Special Committee be formed of one representative from the Town of Ulysses , one representative from the Village of Trumansburg, one representative from the property owner, one representative from the Trumansburg Area • Chamber of Commerce and one representative from the Trumansburg Downtown Businessman' s Association and Further be it resolved, this Committee meet as soon as possible after April 1, 1991 with a charge to actively discuss "in good faith" the petition in question including the proposal for development for this property and report their progress back to each municipality by May 1 , 1991 . • Mr . Hogan asked how a committee like this would be selected. Mr . Reitz said each group would select a representative. Discussion of this concept took place. Not moving this as a resolution, just offering it for consideration. Something to fall back on if we do have an impasse with the Village. The other option is that after April 1 , the new Trustees might amend the resolution their • predecessors made . Mr . Reitz said perhaps we should learn from this ; if we make a gentleman' s agreement we do it in the form of a motion, second it and vote. So, March 25th is the tentative court date as of now, you [Mr . Hogan] will contact Elizabeth to ask her to delay it for another two weeks? Mr. Hogan said Yes , he will talk to her . Whitmore Fence Mrs . Stover said she was very unhappy with the fact that the Village went ahead and paid half of the additional $150 . Whitmore was asking for moving the fence. Mr . Hogan said he was also . Mr . Reitz agreed. The letter was sent and the Village went • ahead and paid $75 . ! Mr. Weatherby suggested waiting; if Whitmore wants the other $75 . let him contact the Town. NEW BUSINESS Environmental Management Council • Mr . Reitz said there was a consideration to have a person from the Environmental Management Council come and talk. Have all received a copy of the letter from Roxanne Marino about the unique, natural areas . We are having a joint meeting with the Village on April 11th, perhaps have Roxanne and David Winestein attend that meeting and give their twenty minute presentation. - Also invite the Town Planning Board members . Mr . Hogan will �'' rv' �•� .. .. .:' . 1. .. •'�. •,�� ,. .p •.}::.,T\ . F ',i'C Y_.• .} 404. 0 Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board Meeting �, ; March 12 , 1991 contact the appropriate people. Meeting is scheduled for 7 : 30PM. ACC Senior Citizens Rate Mr. Reitz passed along to the Village information the Town had received regarding the discount offered to senior citizens . The Village will study the information and get back to us . Think we should hold off taking action until we hear. Mr. Hogan will call " ACC with some questions concerning eligibility and if it will affect franchise fees . REPORTS Town Clerk : Mrs . Georgia reported that total fees for the month 7 of February was $2 ,071 . 50 of which $1 ,897 . 69 was turned over to the Supervisor and that included $1, 4909. 59 ACC Franchise. . Highway Superintendent : Mr. Meeker reported that they plowed and • salted as needed. Installed concrete anchors on guardrail project . Did brush cutting, picked up limbs and branches from ice storm. Hauling stone for summer projects and patching roads . Will receive new loader hopefully by end of the month. Zoning/Building: Mr. Rachun on vacation. Town Board Members : Mr. Reitz announced that March 13th, • Tompkins County Planning Board meets . Also on Youth Commission, .,. found $1, 300 . in revenue that will be coming back to the Town, this will be coming from County Youth Commission. correspondence Mr. Hogan mentioned receiving correspondence as follows : Letters from Scott Sutcliff , Paul Pavenelli , TC Planning Dept . , letter from Glenn Applebee, NYS Retirement/Tiers 3 & 4 , Remediation Review. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to .. adjourn the meeting until Tuesday, March 19, 1991 at 6: 45PM, moved by Mr. Weatherby, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia . • -. r , 17II.Tatiis case • . �,..__ Clerk-Treasurer Mayor f ""�`"—"'-'' ` Dolores Chase Thomas D. Bennett g===Trustee Deputy Clerk • Susan Perkins s s Sharon Housworth • Samuel Demasty 14896 • Attorney Peter Meskill Martin Shapiro Karl Zylich • 11 March 1991 William Hogan, Town Supervisor and Ulysses Town Council -01 gi_.1,1 (� �" L �,• ' ' Town of Ulysses 10 Elm Street LI 42,1991 Trumansburg, N.Y. 14886 TCi'AU OF _•.. Dear Mr. Hogan, - "�• •_ ' Pursuant to the resolution of the Ulysses Town Council of February 12, 1991 re Auble annexation petition: we accept your offer to withdraw the Article 78 proceeding upon indication that the Village Trustees are willing to talk to the developers. We hereby formally communicate to the Town Council the willingness of the • Trumansburg Village Board to talk with Mr. Auble, after the Article 78 proceeding is withdrawn, concerning the needs and wants of the community and his development ideas. We agree with the sense of the resolution that proceeding with discussions among the principals in this matter is a more constructive approach than pressing the Article 78 legal appeal. Since a y, Thomas Bennett Mayor, Village of Trumansburg cc: Village Attorney Village Board Village of Trumansburg Planning Board / 55 East Main Street, P.O. Box 718, Trumansburg, NY 14886 • Telephone (607) 8874501 . G OT) C • C' • ) • w co r. rht0 coo) .- to0000 to co co .- n• •.. co in � dy � o •• Qv cgvoa` o m n en cu a) .. `a m u 0 CO N > U ..0. Y U L Q LL. Q ,7 > U 0 CD ~ Q w 0 0 O W y O 0 C • v W 'O r Y O N •N 'C O E 92 Q C N 7 o C m 'O o c Q o g F— y } 0 • UN 7 o C O 8 C a Q C ~ i) = LL m F• o E 0 m c O () V 1- y w O t • C d o M e c E T r l0 N N N 10 N N co N .. O r O ! ig ! 2 m Y C .0 U L Q '7 I C m = O N U w v� YY a, _f L Q sa. co° aS t 4 �O os : a yy m CL CO o 4> > W o V Z LL S p I= al 0 U9 CCCD E o en y a r E • C) N M .- O) r e•• O0 Q.! to y as m co j„ •. 'O C 'O 2 0 0 9 8 cm co Q. > > U = ~ b W N W t ID 0 �p 71 c a . a Q ` C _ C 0 •y Z a a } Z r 01 V vi G. cc CC ,rL V_ 1O LL a CD • / Nana '.ee; .. . Y..i e:e .. ; % {'.. ;. i i!.. '.ri' p.i;7 ft 4 , ' : r ., r` '. b' TOWN or ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING • • MARCH 18 , 1991 7 :30 F' .M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - `'1� Geraldine Ken , Seville Reulein , Roland Reynolds , ., Budd Stover ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp .- Alex Rachun . • • OTHERS PRESENT : Mr . James Gulledge , Mr. Forbes and Mr . Burke Pleasant Grove Associates The meeting was called to order at 7 :30 p .m . Copies of the Revised Site Plan Review were handed out for the committee to review. David • Tyler asked that the committee read it over and make any revisions as needed . The Planning Board Committee will meet again next week to work on this Site Plan . The Committee spent a few minutes reviewing the Site Plan Review . It was agreed that Section 312 , #21 should read : "Other elements integral to the proposed development as • considered necessary by the Planning Board , including but not limited to a balance between ,developed and undeveloped space , and •- identification of any federal , state , or county permits required for the project 's execution . " The Committee will work on finalizing this Site Plan next week . c. The meeting was then directed toward the Pleasant Grove Associate 's . • PUU . Mr . Gulledge handed out revisions to the Pleasant Grove PUC' . - The committee reviewed Lhis . • Item #3 , regarding the boundaries , was approved . • Item #6 , in regard to the height of the buildings , was approved . Under allowed uses in #6 , it was agreed to change 7) to read : • . "mobile home sales and parks ." The recommendation was made to amend the numbers on . the original January 7 proposed application . Number 6 begins in #5 "The location of the initial . . . " Every number moves up from there . Change #6-G to read "Mobile • home sales and parks . " • ' • Change #9 to read : "No outdoor storage except trash recepticles which .- will be housed in appropriate shelters . " The committee discussed #10 . It was recommended that they be more - . specific as to the design of their buildings as the public will want to know what these buildings will look like . • #15 (regarding signs) reads fine however a statement should be added to read : "No more than two general road signs for the business complex . " #16 , 17 , 18 approved as is . Mr . Tyler stated that because the Pleasant Grove project will be 500 I feet of a state highway , the County Planning Department has to look at this and comment . It is our responsibility to submit this to the County for review . In going through the SEOR application , Alex Rachun explained that The • Town Board will act as the lead agency and that the County Planning Board and the Health Department are involved agencies . Copies of all of this must be submitted to all of these agencies . • Changes that need to be made in the SEOR application : . Part I A #2 - Change acreage • %'�" .. . . _ ` :in�;l....:. ".al .. • . R ., .. I. .r.:.`.s :�.� " '.,. . ' '' .. . i . r. _ . .. r'.i: • A #3b - submit total acreage A #4a - add depth of bedrock - 12 feet . B #1b - correct acreage (read .5 acres & 7 acres) B #1d - fill in length of project • • D ffli - change height , width , length B #1j •- give frontage of project B #3 - change to N/A • • B #3b - should read yes B 04 - as is B Required approvals : change City , County Health Dept . to Yes • Other local agencies - Yes - (County Planning Bd . ) C #11 - change to Yes in regard to community provided services . Fart II #1 Impact on Land - change to Yes (because construction will take more than 1 year) • (Small to Moderate Impact) #18 Impact on Growth & Character - change to Yes Cause change in density of land use - Small to Moderate Impact Development will create a demand for additional community services (e .g . schools , police & fire , etc . ) - Small to • Moderate Impact Proposed Action will create or eliminate employment - Small to Moderate Impact . Mr . Forbes will redo the SEAR application (he now has the original ) and his proposal to be inclusive of all changes or corrections . He will contact Rita Brown to meet to make the appropriate copies as needed to submit to the County Planning Board and Health Department . • • • The meeting was adjourned at 9 :25 p .m . • • • MMEMMUMUMMk .(h. i•, ,. .,.itp� , 'i.e�. � .,,, t'. .�� : . :..i:. tte' :. , :'.�,.0}:::: ...V.li{f; :F TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MARCH 20 , 1991 7 :30 P .M . PRESENT : Chairman Glenn Applebee ; Master Plan Committee Members - Andrew Rice , David Tyler ; Secretary Rita Grown . • OTHERS PRESENT : Carl Mann , representing the Zoning Boand of Appeals . The meeting was called to order at 7:40 p .m. Minutes of the last meeting were passed out . A correction was made to these minutes - Andy Rice should have been included on the • list as doing the write up on Utilities . • Rita Brown informed the committee that after April 1 the Village Court would be held in the Town Court Room , so the Master Plan Committee would either need to change their meeting nights or find another location . Rita would look into the Master Plan Committee meeting in the Village space for our next scheduled meeting on April 3 . The following drafts were presented to the Committee far discussion : Open Space Considerations , by Glenn Applebee ; Ulysses in Perspective , The Past and the Future , by David • Tyler; and Utilities Available in the Town of Ulysses , by Andy Rice . The group briefly discussed these drafts . Glenn asked that copies be mailed out to the members who were not present tonight so that the Committee can review these in more detail at the next meeting . Glenn had spoken to John DeLaney regarding the schools . He will put together a draft of the school system to present at the next meeting . Glenn asked Carl Mann to try to get information on the village to be incorporated in our plan . We hope to have a representative of the village present at our Master Plan Committee meetings in the near future . Glenn also indicated that he would get copies of the survey for the members for the next meeting . Our next meeting will be April 3 , 7 :30 p .m . The meeting was adjourned at 9 :30 p .m . t. r • '{1', '. . !. LS "ti: ' . °i •y'. . ..i! ;tc r 3• 4 i • • TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH :5 , 1991 7 :30 P .M . • PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Roland Reynolds , Budd Stover ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp .- Alex Rachun . • The meeting was called to order at 7 :40 p .m . The Committee reviewed the revised Site Plan Review which was handed out last week . The following changes were agreed upon : 310. 1 - Change " . . .approve with modifications , . . . " to read " . . . approve with modifications and/or conditions , . . . . " . 310 .2 - #2 ^- Add : Occupancy classification changes as per New York: State Building Code , 701 . 1 are not exempt . 310 .2 -• #3 - Break down into a , b , and c to make more clear. • Paragraph should read : . "Exterior alterations or additions to existing structures which would : a) not increase the square footage of the existing structure by more than 252 , . b) not increase the square footage of the structure by more than 2 ,000 square feet and c) not to exceed the height of the existing structure . " 310 .2 - #4 - Delete "Nonstructural agricultural or gardening uses." . Add : "Farms , and the related farm structures as defined in Article I , • Section 5 of Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance . " '' 310.2 - #5 - Add : "Temporary shall be defined as in placement for less than 6 months per calendar year . " 310 .2 - Change : " In all of these cases the review and approval . . . " to ti - read " In all cases where this local law shall apply the review and approval . . . " 310 .3 - Change " . . .approve with modifications , . . . " to read " . . .approve with modifications and/or conditions , . . . " . .....t 310 .4 - Second sentence should read : "After receipt of the Planning Board 's decision , the Zoning Officer shall take the action :irected by .• the Board . Those actions are to issue , issue with modifications and/or conditions or deny a Site Plan Approval . " Delete last sentence . . . . "Actual occupancy may not take place _ 310 .5 - Change to read : "Any person aggrieved by any decision of the Planning Board under this local law may apply for review by a proceeding under Article.? 78 of the New York Civil Practice Law and Rules . Such proceedings must be instituted within 30 days after the filing of the Planning Board ' s decision in the Office of the Town Clerk . " 1 311 . - Paragraph under b) should read : "The Planning Board shall make a determination under SEER (see Environmental Conservation Law) whether the proposal is an Unlisted Action requiring a Short Form EAF or a Type I Action requiring a Full EAF . " 312 - #21 - Should read : "Other elements integral to the proposed development as considered necessary by the Planning Board , including but not limited to a balance between developed and undeveloped space , and identification of any federal , state , or county permits required for the project 's execution . " 313 •- 1 ) Change " . . .to be prepared in accordance with Article 5 . " to read " . . . to be prepared in accordance with the New York State Environment Conservation Law . " 314 . There was much discussion on engaging private consultants and who should pay for such consultant . It was decided we would come back to this , but some limitations need to be made on this . 314 - 3rd paragraph . Should read : " . . .within 45 days of the receipt of the complete preliminary proposal and shall be advertised in the • official newspaper at least 5 days before the date of the public hearing . " 315 - First sentence should read : "Within 45 days of the conclusion of the hearing (or of receipt of the complete preliminary site plan . . . ) . Last sentence : Add "modifications and/or conditions . " 315 - Second paragraph . Change "Board's statement will contain" to read " . . .Board 's statement will state the reason (s) for such findings . " 317 .2 - a) - Include "and related supporting documents" after occupancy proposal . 317 .2 - b) - Change Zoning Permit to read "Building Permit" . 320 . 1 - Insert "Town of " in front of Ulysses . 321 - Alex will get references for d) and e) . Add : 322 .2 and following - Reserved . Rita will type up another draft of the Site Flan Review with all of the above changes . The next meeting of the Planning Board will be in two weeks , April 8 at 7 :30 . The meeting was adjourned at 9 :30 p .m . • 1 ..ee.y q, .e .r. a i( a e,, 'ei!+.ati., e: y.;:�,:: e. i`.• e }%• . .1:.:• .1 , . 70 • TOWN OF ULYSSES ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APRIL 1 , 1991 • PRESENT : Chairman Gail Zabawsky; Board Members Ken el Christianson , James Hickey , and George Tselekis ; Zoning Officer Alex Rar_hun ; Secretary Rita Brown . OTHERS PRESENT : Chairman Gail Zabawsky called the meeting to order at 7 :39 f p .m . This meeting was called to hear a variance for tar map parcel 12 . 1 .6 owned by Allen and Marilyn Vogel , Connie O'Brien and Andy Boem . They are applying for a variance under Article S Section IA for the property which is known •. as 120 South Street to subdivide the property . It currently does not meet the zoning requirements for subdividing a parcel of land because the lots so shaped must form a circle of a minimum of 200 feet diameter to be inscribed entirely within the confines of the usable area and the lot area requires 43 ,560 square feet . Submitted was as copy of a tax • parcel map drawn out with the two proposed areas . Mr . Vogel explained that they purchased the house two years ago and remodeled the house and rented it out . He indicated •. that when he originally purchased the house , the deed called ' for two parcels . The house had been rented until this winter, and they have now decided they would like to sell . the house . They went to a surveyor , Mr . Schlieder , and had him draw a proposed line to divide the property and came to realize that in order to sell the house they also needed a variance to do that . Mr. Vogel explained that there originally was a house and a well on the upper parcel . Mr . Christianson asked what would be the acreage for each lot . Mr . Vogel pointed out the parcels on a map . The lot that has the house on it would be .75 acres . The other lot • would be 1 .2 acres . Ms . Zabawsky asked for any comments from the public . Jim • and June Dunn , neighbors , indicated that they had no • problems with this . Ms . Zabawsky asked if the Board had any • questions . Mr . Hickey asked to see the deed and the mortgage . He questioned Mr. Vogel as to his understanding . . of the purchase of the two parcels . Alen Rachun indicated that there may be some question as to the usable area in the northern most lot . The concern is the 200 ft . diameter circle that is eluded to that particular area is in a flood • zone in the lower corner and may not be able to be included - in the 200 ft . usable area . Ms . Zabawsky asked if the - - . Board had any other questions or comments . . Mr. Tselekis felt that the way they have the lot proposed for division has been done in a sufficient way . He felt that keeping the parcel as one long lot with the house in _ the one corner doesn 't really make much sense . Mr . Tselekis moved the following : ® WHEREAS : the variance is not a substantial variation in relation to the zoning requirements , , parcel 1 is over the requirement for area and . very close to the requirement for the circle , parcel 2 is close to the requirement for the area and although it is well short of the requirement for the 200 ft . circle and the . house is already there , changing the dimensions will not improve the parcel and • parcel 2 also has plenty of frontage in its own riyht . • ., C il• �(. i �'. ' t 'iJ • .. . .I..a'. .i (..r 51 . try •lr r .r• Y i4' 1' • f,• WHEREAS : there is no detracting effect, on population density or any problem with available governmental facilities , fire , water , refuse • disposal . ( WHEREAS : there is no substantial change in the character of the neighborhood , both lots are still good size . WHEREAS : it appears the difficulty can not be obviated by some other method feasible for the applicant to pursue other than a variance and in view of the manner in which the difficulty arose and considering all of the above factors the interests of justice will be served by allowing the variance . WHEREAS : the proposed subdivision is shown on the map presented as an exhibit entitled "Survey for Connie O'Brien , Alan Vogel and Marilyn Vogel , Andy Boehm , Town of Ulysses - County of Tompkins , State of New York , Tax Parcel No . • 12-1-6 , Deed - L .485/p . 1029" and copy thereof with subdivision line superimposed which documents an exhibit to this application for a variance. BE IT RESOLVED : that the Town of Ulysses Zoning Board of Appeals grants approval of this variance for subdivision on tax parcel #12 . 1 .6 . Motion seconded by Mr . Christianson . • • Ms . Zabawsky called for a vote as follows Mr . Christianson aye Ms . Zabawsky aye Mr . Tseleski aye Mr . Hickey aye Variance granted . Ms . Zabawsky indicated that we needed to pass the minutes of the November 5 , 1990 meeting . After reviewing the minutes Mr. Hickey moved , seconded by Mr . Christianson to aprove the minutes of the November 5 , 1990 meeting . Mr. Christianson aye Mr . Hickey aye Ms . Zabawsky aye Mr . Tseleski abstained (absent from meeting) Hearing no further business , Ms . Zabawsky moved to adjourn the meeting , seconded by Mr . Tseleski . Meeting adjourned at 8: 10 p .m . The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 10 p .m . • +i tea,:;;f•� ,. ••:.'�•1. .. .. :•i` .,.; ,' .� y . •+. .}it: .'.y't: .,�::�: r..i 1. ._ t>t.,:.,a.' . .t.: • 7li' • Joint Village/Town Board Meeting April 1, 1991 • The Joint Village of Trumensburg and Town of Ulysses Boards met on Monday, April 1, 1991 in the Main Meeting Room, 56 E. Main Street , Trumensburg, New York • Present : Village of Trumansburg: Mayor Thomas Bennett, Trustees: Peter Meskill , Bill Griswold, John Rogers, Karl Zylich. Town of Ulysses: Councilpersons: Tom Reitz , Carolyn Duddleston, Catherine Stover. Developer: Dave Auble Recording minutes: Sharon Housworth, Clerk, Village of Trumensburg Trustee Meskill presented a MOTION, seconded by Trustee - Zylich to open the joint meeting at 8:23 p. m. Unanimously Approved. Trustee Meskill stated we are here to discuss with the • developer in front of the town members to see if solutions/compromises can be worked out regarding the Auble Annexation; what the village is trying to accomplish and whet the developer is trying to accomplish. Trustee Zylich asked Dave if he had anything new to bring the new board members up to speed as far as what you are after as • • far as annexation. • Dave Auble stated before he answered he asked if any of the board members received a flyer "New York Land Institute" which deals with municipalities, economical issues and real estate development projects; Dave would like to explore this with both boards; and at some point get our major priorities or issues on the table. Trustee Zylich asked if the suit has been dropped at this point. Trustee Meskill stated our resolution last Saturday was to meet with the developer and two or three representatives of the town board to schedule at least two meetings. Tom Reitz read the resolution (on file) , which states in part that two meetings be scheduled with the developer and two or three representatives of the town to discuss the needs and wants of the community and ideas of the developer in relation to the Auble Annexation; additional meeting may be scheduled contingent upon withdrawal • of the Article 78 proceeding. Trustee Zylich stated we should stick to the need and wants of the community and developer. Dave stated that' s the concept ; if the needs and wants of the community can be meshed with the desires of the developer. • • Tom Reitz stated that Trustee Zylich had an interesting • question in bringing the new board member up to what your latest proposal was that you brought to the town board in November or December. Dave stated what he had discussed with the town board was a revision of the plan that was brought in with the petition; what ' he would cell as Phase I ; which was a full coverage plan; Dave • stated it was very likely not a market for what was laid out on that plan; on a plan like that people think it will be dropped in place, where a plan of that size could take 20 years. The modified version (Phase I) showed a building that could house a supermarket and approximately apace for five other businesses in • that same complex ; a total square footage of 50, 000 of building; he' s not even sure there is a market for that at this point. • • • II And a portion showing some residential pointed toward senior, or low to middle income housing; this is what he (Dave) would call a full coverage site plan and very ambitious at this point. Trustee Meskill asked if this was the old plan; Dave stated he believe this is similar to what was submitted with the petition. Discussion continue about re-submitting the petition; village not inviting input from the developer. It was decided to go forward and get some ideas and try to work together. Dave stated a modest and possibly reasonable, within market {; demands, retail on the site and segment of residential toward elderly senior oriented for sale or rental housing. Trustee Griswold asked if like condo' s; Dave stated could be apartments, town homes or single family, mix, depending on demand. Trustee Zylich asked it he was still talking about 50, 000 sq. ft . of • commercial . Trustee Griswold stated he would like Dave to go through the whole thing and then address concerns that anyone • might have. Dave asked if they have the opportunity to utilize the property they see the market demand. Those are the two primary demands he see for the market of small retail. Trustee Griswold • asked if someone has a concern as to how much commercial space and the size ; and if this is a concern of the village, is this • something we can negotiate; this is why we are here; we may not end up all coming to terms but if someone has a concern can it be direct ; Dave stated there is definitely room to negotiate and room for input. Dave commented he saw some of Trustee Rogers ideas regarding a farmer' s market and he is interested in that concept also, but whether it is economically advisable for the site ; whether is would work with a commercial/retail ; or make sense to the community ; he is open to that kind of thinking. I 21 Trustee Griswold asked Dave if the annexation was forced on • us; can the village set criteria. For example if you could only have 10,000 sq. ft. of commercial/retail ; is that the way it happens. Dave stated the discussion of whether it should be annexed at all . . Trustee Meskill stated: that is the classic example; if it should be annexed at all ; that is what any annexation petition is about . Dave: what are the alternatives if it is not annexed. Jim Seafuse moved from Main St. down to 96 (south) and built his store. This can be done at this end of the village (north) too. And that may be the alternative; the other alternative may be the property is going to be efficiently developed and designed in a way that is healthy for the community ; possibly a water sewer district is an option. So you have the option of annexing, of us • going ahead with septic and wells, selling water/sewer; and possibly annexing in the future if it makes sense as the village - goes along. Getting back to the question; if it is annexed and • how it is annexed is probably the next question. Trustee Griswold stated the question is should you annex or not depends on how the village sees the property being used. Tom Reitz said your question is whether zoning laws are in effect at the time of annexation. It was asked how the property is zoned now; it is zoned as agricultural/residential. Dave continued: He recommends the alternative now is to go parallel processing since this has been a long drawn out process and may continue to be that way ; for us to go forward; rezone it with the town; since the town seems to be in agreement that this is an opportunity to broaden the tax base; and they see the positive aspects of this; and continue to talk with the village about the alternative of annexation; the town may want to come to • the village ask for a water/sewer district . l(!'l.ill•.J.' Y 4 • * •.. n .l.l ti,1• ( i. } l I .I.0 .j•• '1• .. .t, <.. �J' ..4. F.: ,r,r`'i`i�,f.(Yt'� F .l�'. ,} ..:i. .'!i;-•'�,. . . . :n",nil • ..v'•!f i• • ' • 1 Trustee Griswold stated if the landowner's had it annexed but not annexed in such o way they could do it with what they have planned. Dave stated it could be a possibly. Tom Reitz asked what is the time table of the village' s zoning ordinance, updates, including planned unit development . • Trustee Meskill stated subdivision and definitions are done and review of the SEOR (Article 5) , which was handed to us tonight ; we need to get the that information to the CAC and Planning Board and have a public hearing. Section 2 & 3 needs reviewing by the Board ; go back to planning board for changes. Trustee Rogers asked if all of the 50, 000 sq. ft was commercial . Dave said no, about 1/3 of it would be commercial with parking included. Trustee Griswold asked how much housing. Dave stated about 20 acres of residential. Trustee Meskill ti stated he thought there was a newer version which shows less housing. Dave stated there is not enough demand for a full coverage plan. Trustee Rogers stated he was questioning the capacity of the sewer and water demand. Dave stated he thought the village had a capacity of 200 units; new plan shows • approximately 40 - maximum of 50 residential units. Mayor Bennett asked if there are 40 residents, could people buy them; Dave said yes they could be for sale; it would be a mix. Dave stated that he sees that the town sees an economic need for this type of activity; one municipality sees this and the other does not ; he would like to see a meshing of these understanding; Trustee Zylich asked about the impact on schools; if it is elderly housing it won' t be an impact. Dave stated the major market in the U. S. is elderly housing and he has interview people in the community. Trustee Meskill stated as he understands it , it won' t be like a Juniper Manor. Dave stated correct ; they • would he looking at potential subsidized segments of the project; they could have a range of income levels; there could be some • subsidize if it is available and they looking in to that, but are • • going without that ; Trustee Griswold stated the village can' t • control subsidy housing or regular housing; Trustee Meskill said correct, the only thing the village can control is density based on zoning. Trustee Griswold stated basically we are talking about how much is residential and how much commercial. Dave stated his thinking is for integrated neighborhood that provide services that related to each other. If you have senior oriented housing you have some services related to that ; an optician is interested in moving into the area; possibly where seniors could walk to these services as well as retail business; the general public could do the same; it would be a mix of concepts. Trustee Griswold asked what percentage would be residential and percentage of commercial. Dave said right now there are 13 ' acres in the village and 38 acres in the town; what has been • planned in the past ; the amount . . in the town would be a mix of commercial ; and the part in the village would be residential. Trustee Meskill asked Dave, what you are saying, is 38 acres of commercial/industrial in the town and 13 acres of residential in the village. Dave stated to be liable on a long term basis, for • instance if you were to get some high tech software company who wanted to come in here ; you have to know you have enough space to do a logical configuration for . them to be able to do that ; for the amount of residential demand that we see in the village, 13 acres is more than adequate; it might be the owner might come back in a two years and say we . need to expand over into commercial depending on changing conditions. There is definitely not enough market to build 38 acres of commercial ; and not enough market to build 13 acres of residential. Tom Reitz stated that the P&C is interested in doing something by 1993; he asked Dave if this would be his first ,'4. ;' �; -, Y.�r�x 4�•vr.i• ~'y.. • I ntr•tr ..•.l ' l `l,It ;�,'�. uL}'l;.r „ t, t }yi•�� a�t., cr:•:Y' .,.rr, N ., "Art. . t y°..'r \+{. .r y primary consideration. Dave answered yes, in spite of the fact that many don' t want to see the P&C move. They are going to F•. whether they move to this property or another property. Truster Meskill asked if this would be the cornerstone of the r' development . Dave said it would be one of the major components of the development . • Trustee Meskill said he understood the P&C was in the village office to get a building permit for remodeling and changino storage around and taking over where Ferretti' s • Laundromat was. Dove understood they were going to upgrade end it would be healthy for the community ; it would be much more appealing if someone comes in to replace them. Trustee Meskill questioned why P&C would put this kind of money into a building, with cheaper rental and then move to the development which would be more expensive. Dave stated he can' t predict or control corporate decisions. Trustee Rogers stated he rides his bike to the P&C now; it is dangerous to ride to Shur Save; he would like to see it stay . Dave stated the municipalities would have to work together and build sidewalks. Trustee Meskill said it would be expensive for the village to build; Dave stated you could do like the state parks and have walkways with crushed limestone materials that packs down; there are ways to do this; and still make it within bicycling and walking distance for a certain segment of the community. Dave stated some economics of the program; municipalities are in a budget crunch; state is promoting seminars and encouraging development ; people feel developments would cost more than what it would bring in revenues. Dave feels and he thinks the town is in agreement, the financial benefits far out weight • the costs, plus it would bring in services and create Jobs. Trustee Griswold asked what are the problems of the development. Trustee Meskill stated you would be taking a grocery store out of the middle to town; what effect does 50, 000 sq. ft. of commercial space on the northern edge of town - how does that effect the center of town. The other problem is the village does not have zoning 2 and 3 plans implemented. If the • village were to annex today and give them 38 acres commercial and • 13 acres residential, they could come in and fill out a building permit and the village would have no control over site plan review. • Trustee Griswold asked it the town would have a problem if the village were to make a concerted effort to get the appropriate zoning in place before the annexation is looked at ; it seems like we are under the gun; I' m for planned development but I don' t think we should do it today; it' s not appropriate to the village citizens because we don' t have the planning and zoning in place. Trustee Griswold asked how long would it take the village to get the zoning it place. Andy Scott , Chairman of the Planning Board stated it would take three to four months. Dave stated there are two options: (1 ) table everything until the zoning is in effect (2) look at alternatives. We need to look at parallel steps economically; municipalities will see the difference in dollars in revenues, especially with state cuts ; sewer rates will be increasing; our basic approach is to keep going forward and work in harmony with the village. Trustee Meskill asked Dave what he meant by going forward. Dave answered: They have to attempt to start the project in this building season which may mean going ahead with septic and wells; the other alternative would be for the town to come to the village to purchase water and sewer and pay the rate and a half . . 1.•t. "r .a y: if`r .t.o 'i)'w .1 � {1. l;f�i/: .r td rl rSy :. 7 v ': Trustee Rogers stated this is o big change and we don' t hove our planning in force ; we need to decide whet Trumensburg needs in the future ; we do have some needs for jobs and light: industry ; non-polluting; some residential ; another thing we have to worry about is building another school to accommoaate new housing. Do • we want a larger community ; the village has to decide this Dave answered the town is growing; the town and village is one community ; the town is the commercial center; the school serves the town and village. • 4 Trustee Griswold asked if there would be under 50 families. Dave stated if they go for the market they are looking for it would mean 50 families without children; if they bring in a software company that hires 20 people and 10 of them happen to be families with two or three children, it would have an effect on schools ; but if that high tech outfit builds south of the village or Enfield it still will effect the schools; • Dave stated his understanding of the evolution of a village • basically encompasses the entire community; if that means widening is boundaries and providing services in order to maintain the economic health of community. Trustee Meskill said as long as it doesn' t cost the people that already exist more money to have that done and doesn' t impact the quality of lite. Dave agreed; now its a question of how; we are taking steps forward and doing something progressively. Trustee Meskill asked the town: they indicated there are going to run on a parallel regardless of how the annexation process goes and how long it takes a panel of judges to decide. Question to Dave: you intend to approach the town for planned unit development for that land, prior to being annex . Dave said he feels that is what he should recommend. Trustee Meskill said it makes it that much more difficult for the village to deal with because they are forcing us in not letting us come forth in good • faith discussions; while we are coming forth with discussions, You are proceeding forward, with what you want whether the village wants it or not ; to me it doesn' t show good faith on your part. Dave stated you sit and do nothing or take positive action in terms of planning. To get this on the tax rolls the town has supported this concept in good faith; they are going to want to see some revenues coming from this site. Our interest in that department are being pursued and trying to get into forcing your decision making process. Trustee Meskill asked the town board members if they feel that its in the best interest of this annexation question, to have the developer move forward; we are here now to come up with something that will work for everyone. Catherine Stover stated one thing that would bother her is to have to them move out of the county ; there would he sales tax from the P&C. Trustee Griswold said we have people who went to keep the P&C downtown; but if the P&C doesn' t want to stay there, they are not going to stay. Catherine Stover stated she didn' t think the P&C would care what county they are in. Tom Reitz stated that we all know what the options are that the developer has; he can leave it agricultural he can also come to the town and ask for a planned unit development or a business district ; the whole point is probably nothing will hempen; unless the discussions break down to no place; it the town drops the Article 78 they have two options and let the developer come to the town alone and we make the sole decision; or we can put the Article 78 through and probably feel we have a reasonably good chance of forcing the annexation on the village, but the village would be in a position to zone it or control or to allow water r'r .i: �:!: Li{ .at. r.". .I. ..a. ,' .la'. ti:F.•. . ar e" {.�: � '. � .4j ' ... .. .. 'St`i%^. '.Ipy7, S,'.::,Y/'- ,. r:�. 1� ` • and sewer. Trustee Meskill asked if the judge decides, does he • tell the village what to do with the land; does he base it on the planned unit development that was proposed with the petition or allow the village to re-zone as they see fit . Dave stated they • would be ruling on the petition. Trustee Griswold asked Dave how he would feel if the village annexed and zoned the land 70% residential and 30% commercial with guidelines on how used. Dave said he can' t speak for the landowner, but he would consider it. Carolyn asked the village board, if the town drops the Article 78, what guarantee does the town have that the village will continue with their planning and zoning; two years ago they asked the village to adopt it ; it has been dropped; they ought to have some kind of guarantee that it will continue. Trustee Meskill agreed that the village should have some sort of time line to have the zoning in place. Discussion continued that the zoning has been worked on by previous boards but has never been • finalized. It could take 3-6 months to finalized the zoning rules and regulations. • Mayor Bennett stated it could throw a monkey-wrench in this building season. Dave stated that is why you need to work on a • parallel course; it doesn' t make sense for us to go through this • whole exercise and come out the other end. . . Trustee Griswold stated if you already have the building there and we annex it, you have a problem. Trustee Meskill stated the village would have more of a problem; why would they want to be annex at that point. Trustee Griswold said if push comes to shove and you had • a building there; then its not going to be residential at that point if it get annex into the village. Dave stated it doesn' t make sense to go into the village as all residential ; Trustee Griswold asked Dave what is your main • objective. Dave said they already have 13 acres of residential land in the village with water and sewer, we could start building. Trustee Griswold asked if the village came back and • said their intent is to have it mostly residential, and you are willing to go along now and pursue your own sewer and water what do you want from the village that you' re not going to get without it. Dave answered, that a good question; we could start the residential now; 13 acres is a lot more than the demand for the market, it would take some time to build out 13 acres of residential. To efficiently plan the site it should be done up front that the utilities are provided to the site. If you go • with a"mash-mash" of starting out with septic and well , it effects where you place your buildings, how you design the site. Trustee Griswold said if we have good faith and work on our zoning and so forth and we get it done in 3-6 months; 6 months is the end of the building season. Dave stated you need a parallel process; you need to get your zoning in effect . • • Trustee Meskill stated if the village is working herd and in good faith to look at a combination that will work; and save the taxpayer the money it will cost for a lawsuit plus not impact what we already have in the village in a negative fashion; then • for you or the town to engage with you to run parallel at the same time; when we are acting in good faith, it is a constant push; I ' m asking the town if they are willing to do that . Catherine asked if the village has any plans in changing the zoning to commercial . Trustee Meskill said you would have to go the BZA. Tom Reitz asked how different is the town and village planned unit development differ. Trustee Meskill said he can' t answer that . Trustee Griswold stated if we go though all this and the planning board and recommends it is 80-90% residential, where are we. Dave said the landowner has the last vote of the annexation; i' :.a °�.,ii;:iii r. t i .R:,i,, .h .. -,f ., .t.•. , { t Trustee Meskill said in a normal process; if a piece of land of 30 acres has already been zone 30 acres commercial and 20 acres residential ; when you are bringing your plans to a planning board if you proceed while we are working on our zoning and still initiating discussions; if you proceed with the town to do 1. planned unit development , the town' s zoning is definitely • different from the village; you are going to have an entirely 1., • different concept than what the village may want or allow. Dave said that is why it would be good to go with a Phase I or II. If we did the Phase I commercial and did the residential in the • village we would be working with the village regulations, and '',:, if/when there was on annexation of this portion of the property that would be a building that came with that particular property; it would be grandfathered in. A town member asked Dave if he would be asking for a couple of acres; Dave stated a business district . Trustee Meskill stated again if the village is working in good faith to look at some form of annexation as a combination of commercial, residential, industry and working hard to put our laws together, he would ask the town in good faith that they look at what we are putting together before they approve any planned •• unit development ; otherwise, all the work we have done, all the cooperation and discussions between the boards and developer is a waste of our time. Trustee Griswold tasked Dave if the village annex it and the • village has some say as to the use of it and feeling is from the • planning board that most of it will be residential, do you still want it annex. Dave answered we would have to go to the drawing board and see what the portions are and it would have to be very specific before an agreement can be made. Trustee Griswold asked if it is appropriate if we set some guidelines and time frames tonight ; we owe that much to the discussion. Discussion ensued; it was suggested the town and village compare their planned unit development with one another. • Dave stated he would like to make this a two phase step; give the town the opportunity to help plan the property similar to the way the village would want. Dave stated residential property takes more in services, costs and generally in revenue. The economic side if you want to have a low cost to the community, you gear toward the commercial side because you are not using up your resources. Those are the economic area from our stand point. Trustee Meskill stated the negative from that stand point is how it impacts the rest of the community to bring in more commercial. Trustee Griswold asked where we go from here. It was stated the two boards will be meeting again on the April 11th, and the town board members at this meeting should talk with the remainder of the board members. Trustee Griswold asked the town what their reaction is of tonight ' s meeting. Catherine stated she thought it has been an • excellent discussion, Carolyn agreed. Carolyn said if we all think about what was said tonight and come back and talk again, we may come up with something. • Trustee Meskill asked the town it there was anything more they wanted to discuss with the village or had any questions. Catherine stated what Dave has to go is give some thought on what he wants, which way he wants to go; we can' t give PUD unless applied for and have certain criteria before it comes to us. Trustee Zylich asked Dave if we could have the updated version of his plans. He will bring them Thursday (11th) t. Trustee Griswold presented a motion seoonded by Trustee Meskill to adjourn meeting until April 8, 1991 for the Village Board Regular Meeting and April 11, 1991 for a village/town Joint • meeting at 7:30 PM at the Village Meeting Room. Meeting adjourned at 10: 10 PM. • Unanimously approved • Respectfully submitted, Sharon Housworth /s . • • • • , , • `" .n'.,. f t't'�i'. iiq `,�.i , �,•. ' Ir. .. �•int,•A t.� it .'� /'.4 6'. i�: ' ' . �, TOWN OF ULYSSES ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING April 2 , 1991 Present : Carolyn Duddleston, Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Absent : William Hogan, Robert Weatherby . Others Present : David Auble, Jerry Perkins , Roger Rector, Christine Springer . .• Carolyn Duddleston opened the Adjourned Town Board Meeting at • 7 : 25PM. Board members spoke with David Auble and reviewed the Joint Village/Town meeting held the previous night . The next Joint Meeting will be April 11th. Mr . Reitz said that the Village keeps bringing up the Article 78 , Mrs . Duddleston said that they want a commitment from the Town without actually committing themselves . Mr . Auble asked if it sounded if they [Village] would be open to a proposal from the landowner and maybe the Town? Mr . Reitz said he felt there was a lot of ignorance last night on the Village Board. . .would have probably been appropriate • to have what you [Mr . Auble] presented to the Town . Mrs . Duddleston said that hopefully the Village will come to the meeting on the eleventh somewhat more prepared. Mrs . Duddleston said that she doesn ' t think the Town is out of line in asking for a commitment on a tentative time-frame . Mr . Auble said that he was thinking, in order to get some forward movement , of coming with a proposal that would enable us to come to the Town and request a start of project review, which would • include rezoning, review of the project and possible Phase I approval . Anxious to get something going. . . interest rates are down and housing market is growing . What are we hampered by here . . .don't see where the law suit is connected. In an economic hardship situation because of the Village' s lack of responsibility. They • have fumbled along with this zoning process for a long time and • keep using it to extend out any approvals . . . they already have zoning. How would it hurt the situation to start . . .Mr. Reitz • said he thinks housing would be ideal . . .but think if you come to the Town just to say I want to put a road in there, that the Town, without going through major PUD' s , etc . , don' t see that as • a problem. Mr . Auble said he feels it is asking a lot of him to wait a year until anything is built . Can' t see how it would affect the Article 78 and would be interesting to ask. . .what if we asked to • go forward with Phase I of the commercial . . . ask the attorney . Mr . Reitz said that is different because you are asking to build in the Town. Mr. Auble said that could be Phase II then. • Mrs . Duddleston said this is something new. . .Village is still not sure of what took place before and this is a new idea. Mr. Auble said that one of his thoughts is to ask the Town to ask the Village for a water/sewer district . For Phase I [whatever we deem as Phase I of the project] and that they [Village] can give us that with some limitation [for instance Alpha House/limited to 6,000 gallons per day] . . . then, if that agreement is reached, that would allow us to get our project started while the Village is forming their new zoning/master plan, even if it takes a year . When that ' s in place, perhaps we can put some kind of agreement together that would we automatically reapply for annexation or that ' s something the Town Board would have to let me know what you want . . . if you want to keep it in Town, etc. r, . Town of Ulysses 2 Adjourned Board Meeting April 2 , 1991 Mr . Reitz said he doesn' t think the water/sewer district outside of Town will be approved, the rest voiced the same opinion. Mrs . Duddleston said that she feels Mr. Auble should return to the meeting on April 11th with some of these ideas . Mr . Reitz said • that would give the Town time to evaluate what transpired at the • Joint Meeting last night . Hearing no further discussion, the Board adjourned to an Executive Session regarding the Judicial System. The Board reconvened to adjourn the meeting until April 9, 1991 at 7 : 00PM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha Georgia pm • • 1 ...}t°::: '.l 1``:.0;..{_.... ....-t •..1.. , '•y :{;• CJ. A'' :♦'.' •:i•: .L. is.r .. . "�ai1. .,y J. '" •':°�. 'l1'lr'•�', '.1..�'j j: :4.. 1 . 3':. �f{. ,..f . ,.. ' .�. •' � . ., . ..'' .. � .. . '. • too J. • . r TOWN OF ULYSSES •l•• PLANNING BOARD MEETING APRIL 8 , 1991 7 :30 P .M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Roland Reynolds , Budd Stover , Geraldine Keil Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp .- Alex Rachun . • OTHERS PRESENT : Tom Reitz 1 . The meeting was called to order at 7 :35 p .m . Minutes of the March 11 , • March 10 , and March 25th Planning Board meetings were read and approved . David Tyler announced that there would be another seminar • • offered by the Tompkins County Planning Department on April 11 regarding SEOR . He asked for someone to volunteer to attend as he would be out of town . Geraldine Keil volunteered . There will also be a joint meeting with the Village and Town Boards on April 11th . There will be a guest speaker there from the Environmental Management • Council . Budd Stover will try to attend . The committee continued discussion on the Revised Site Flan Review . • Section 314 : regarding private consultants . Roland Reynolds expressed concern about this being abused by the Planning Board requesting information that is beyond what is actually required . Geraldine Keil pointed out that there are several agencies where free • assistance could be obtained sucn as the Health Department . But when • some big proposal is in and the developer hasn ' t met all the • requirements that the Planning Board has requested to clarify something , it may be necessary to engage a private consultant . By ® putting in the statement "In the event applicant pays the private consultant fee and the specific site plan application as to which the consultant was engaged is thereafter disapproved by the Planning Board , the Town shall reimburse the applicant for this cost upon the disapproval . " , the town would be aware that if the planning board turned the PUD down , the town would be paying for this private • consultant . Budd Stover felt the 5 days was not long enough if the developer wanted to turn in alternate plans instead of hiring private consultants . It was agreed to change this to "5 business days" . It was also agreed to add to this statement , " In the event applicant pays private consultants fee engaged at the Planning Board 's behest and the Change #4 in Section 310 .2 to read "as defined in Article I , Section of the Town Zoning Ordinance . " On page 4 , change h ) of Section 313 to read , " In the case of a recreational camping facility , an apartment complex or other multiple • dwelling , adequacy of usable open space for play areas and informal • recreation ; " Alex Rachun will contact the Health Department to sec if there is any code regarding open space for multi-units or campgrounds . On page 2 , Section 311 - "The Planning Board shall make a determination under SEAR (see New York Environmental Conservation Law, Section 8-0113) . . . " On page 3 , #21 - correct to read " . . . including but not limited to balance between developed . . . " On page 4 , Section 314 - first sentence - change building inspector to read "zoning officer" . David Tyler asked Tom Reitz if a new member had been appointed yet to the Planning Board . Tom Reitz said that they hoped that one would be appointed tomorrow night at the Board meeting . On page B , Section 321 , d) and e) - "will meet the criteria in governing state and federal statutes and regulations applicable . " • .. 113 Roland Reynolds made the motion to approve the proposed Site Plan Review and Approval by the Planning Beard and submit it to the Town Board for their review and approval ; seconded by Geraldine Keil . • Geraldine Keil - Aye Roland Reynolds - Aye • Budd Stover - Nay David Tyler recommended we have another meeting with the entire • Planning Board to discuss this further . David Tyler asked Rita Brown to make sure that Richard Garner and Seville Reulein have all the back minutes and the final revised copy of the Site Plan Review . Our next meeting will be Monday , April 22 . • The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 15 p .m . I • • • • • • • • • TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING • • April 9, 1991 • Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine • Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby , •• Councilpeople; James Meeker , Highway Superintendent ; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. • • Others Present : Richard Durling, Gene Moore. Mr. Hogan, Supervisor, called the Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order. at 8 : 00PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of 3/12/91 and the Joint Village/Town Meeting of 3/5/91 , moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover . • One correction on 3/5/91 . . .Mr. Weatherby was present . Unanimously approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department • Mr. Durling reported on the activities of the Fire Department (see attached) . Had elections of officers, Mr . Durling remains Chief , Robert • Snedeker, Asst . Chief . Annual banquet will be held April 20th, 6: 30PM cocktails, 7 : 30PM dinner. Invited a town representative. Mr . Reitz and Mrs . Stover will represent the Town. Report : Rep. James Mason Absent . Mr. Hogan said he had talked with Mr. Mason who said he will be meeting with a large delegation of lake front property owners . Claims • Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #112-144 in the amount of $8 ,185 .70 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Unanimously approved. • Superintendent 's Financial Report Mr . Hogan read the report (see attached) . Budget stats were reviewed, seem to be on line for the quarter . Hearing of Delegations/Individuals Mr. Moore presented plans to the Board for the old Poyer Farm. . . to reopen it as an outboard motor repair shop. Mr . Hogan said that in speaking with Mr . Rachun that these plans seem to be very complete. Mr . Hogan read the following statement of purpose : Business hours will be from 8 : 30AM-5 :OOPM, Monday- Friday; 8 : 30AM-3 : OOPM .on Saturday; 9: OOAM-noon on Sundays . All power repairs will be done during weekdays and anything after 5 : 00PM will be done inside. Our season runs from March through October. We are very slow in the winter months . Customer parking will be in the front of the building, up to six cars . . .don' t expect more than six at one time. Parking lot area is 40 ' x50 ' . Storage .is .15-20 boats parked on north side of the building waiting to be worked on or picked up . Inside storage in the winter for 10-15 boats , may be 4-5 outside winter storage, maximum. Plan to install stockade fence on north side of the building along .boundary .line. Improvements to building and Town of Ulysses 2 • • Regular Board Meeting April 9 , 1991 grounds , painting roof and all wood trim, clean up area around building, adding fill on south side, gutters on both sides of building, draining out back of building . • Mr . Reitz asked Mr . Moore what condition he was seeking. . . zoned business , a PUD? Mr . Moore said a PUD. He is in the process of buying the property. Mr . Hogan said that the Board will make sure the application is complete and forward it on to the Planning Board. OLD BUSINESS Spruce Row Campsite, Mr . Reitz stated that he hadn' t heard from the map maker. Has • started work on it . The County has hired an airplane to photograph the entire county. . .will try to get copies of those maps , which will aid him in the process . Mr. Reitz said he will be happy to contact him and get a progress report . RT 96 Lighting • Mr . Hogan asked if anything had been heard regarding RT 96 lighting? Mr . Meeker said No. State has closed the Ithaca DOT • office. Will contact them and see what progress has been made. Appointment/Planning Board Member Discussion took place regarding the Planning Board applicants . Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz to appoint Jerry Perkins to the Planning Board. • Mr. Hogan Abstained Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Abstained Approved. Mr. Hogan will contact Mr. Perkins and the other candidates . Mr. Hogan stated that he had received quite a bit of correspondence regarding economic development/seminars, etc. Perhaps we should have an economic development committee. . .Christopher Gunn is a specialist in this area. . .perhaps have a sub-committee . Think about the concept . Mr. Reitz commented that it is a good idea for the Planning Committee to become involved in economic development , but perhaps wait until the Master Plan Committee completes their assignment . Suggested inviting Mike Stamm from TC Area Development to a Regular Town Board Meeting . Mr. Hogan thought that was a good idea. Water Study Mr . Hogan said there was no report on the Water Study . Auble Annexation Will be a Joint meeting at the Village Hall on April 11 at 7 : 30PM. Mr. Hogan said he had seen Tom Bennett who stated that Marty Shapiro needs another extension of the postponement until April 29th. Mr. Hogan said he felt that was reasonable so called the Town Attorney . Mr. Reitz went over the Joint meeting with the Village on April 1 . . 1 .. Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Meeting April 9 , 1991 Pleasant Grove PUD Discussed Pleasant Grove PUD. . .Mr . Reitz asked if there was a hold up from the Planning Board on their recommendation to the • Town Board? Mr. Rachun is sending it to TC Planning in reference • to SEQR. NEW BUSINESS Meeting Rules Mr . Reitz stated that he would like to put together a rough draft o`_ rules that might pertain to committees , submit it to the Chairs of the committees for comment . Mr . Hogan said he will let folks know that the Board is considering some form of attendance requirements . Posting of Meetings • Mr . Reitz said there is concern from some residents , because of the number of meetings , of not being informed as to when they are held. The Village is going to post their special meetings , etc. at the Village Office, Post Office and bank. . .will advertise that in the FreePress . The Town, at this time, just posts special meetings on the bulletin board. . .wondered if we shouldn' t post it at the Post Office? • Mr . Hogan said this office is centrally located, people can call , or stop in to ask about meetings . Feels what we are doing is • sufficient . Town Board members agreed. Resolution Mr . Reitz stated that he has a resolution Urging Opposition to Cuts in Aid to Localities and Youth Services and Support for Article 19A Section 420 of New York State Executive Law, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston as follows : WHEREAS, the Governor's 1991-92 State Budget includes drastic reductions in aid to localities that affect the Town' s ability to continue valued services for municipal residents and WHEREAS, the Governor has also recommended an additional 55% reduction in the amount of local assistance available to the Town for youth services , and WHEREAS, the Town is currently engaged in planning and providing • new and expanded services for children and youth that will rely on the availability of continued state aid from the Division for Youth and WHEREAS, the NYS Executive Law Article 19A Section 420 which provides per capita aid to localities for youth services has been the foundation of the State 's successful youth service system for more than 45 years , WHEREAS, the Governor's proposal to allowDFY funded programs to charge fees will not generate enough alternative revenues to offset the .proposed cuts in services for families least able to pay fees , now therefore be it RESOLVED, upon recommendation of the Trumansburg Ulysses Youth III Committee that the Town of Ulysses opposes all proposed cuts in aid to localities and especially those for youth services and further RESOLVED, that the Town urges our Senate and Assembly representatives and the leadership of the Legislature to oppose cuts in state aid and further RESOLVED, that the Town urges continued support for Executive Law Article 19A SEction 420 , and opposes any attempts to eliminate or weaken the State's youth service system and further • • • Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Board Meeting April 9, 1991 RESOLVED, that this resolution be transmitted to: Governor Cuomo, the leaders of the Senate and Assembly, the leadership of • the legislative committees responsible for recommending state aid for youth services and to our local representatives , Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye ., Adopted. REPORTS Town Clerk: Mrs . Georgia reported that for the month of March, total fees collected was $1 , 048 . 41 of which $745 . 43 was turned over to the Supervisor . Of that $15 . was Zoning and $185 . in building fees for Mr. Rachun. Mrs . Georgia said she had talked with Mr . Hubble, Town of Enfield, regarding renaming County Line Rd/Townline Rd. to 'Buck Hill Road' . Other municipalities have passed a resolution to change the name. . .Mrs. Georgia said she feels there is more to it than just a resolution, perhaps a public hearing, will check on legalities . • Hiohwav : Mr. Meeker, Superintendent , reported that the crew had patched roads, cleaned up stone and dirt by Yacht Club. Hauling stone. Expect new loader any day . Would like the Board to declare the old loader as surplus , can advertise it for the May 18 auction. . .want a minimum bid of $5,000 . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to declare the loader as surplus , moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mrs . Stover . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Mr . Meeker stated that he has the forms to go for State bid on salt purchases . Should be cheaper; have to guarantee that I will take at least 75% of what I order, and have to have the order in by the end of this month. Don' t see any problem. Will also be delivered. With a larger salt shed, will be able to store more. Mr. Hogan stated that some of the money for the salt shed may have to go to cover the new court costs . Also, in discussion tonight about court , didn' t talk about revenues . Mr . Meeker said that is a problem with the State budget , don' t know how much will be cut from CHIPS . . .now you say you may take salt shed money; where do I start with my summer projects . . .say I have to wait? Other places you can take the money other than the salt shed. Mentioned to you a while ago. . .doing more salting each year . . .what about the payroll for snow removal? Haven' t even used half of that . Mr. Reitz said that according to the bookkeeper can' t take the money from one account to another . Mr . Meeker said still have 55 percent of payroll left for snow removal from Town and 61 percent from County. . . won' t be using that kind of money this year . Mr . Reitz said you were talking about using your manpower to build the salt shed and if that ' s the case, then yes , that money could be used for the payroll for the men. Materials have to come from elsewhere. 9' V • Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Board Meeting April 9 , 1991 $4r. Hogan said he would like to say go ahead and build the salt shed but if we don' t have the money. . .Mr . Meeker asked if he should go along with the State contract for salt? Have to have �. that in by end of April . If we put up a shed can cut my salt in half . Mr . Hogan suggested that Mr. Meeker put together an estimate of what materials will cost for the salt shed, and perhaps there are other areas we can squeeze money out to buy a portion of those materials . Perhaps can at least start it this • year . Board Members Mr . Reitz said that windows are broken in the Jacksonville homes owned by Mobil . He and Alex are working on it . Mrs . Stover stated that 240 people used the recycling center. Marian would like to meet with the Board regarding small businesses . Mr . Meeker said that the OSHA inspector stopped, had six violations . In 1992 the fuel tanks at the Town Barns will have to be inspected, this will be the last time . They are over 25 yrs . old and will need to come up with money for new tanks and • removal of old ones . Also been in contact with the County about dumping brush behind the Town Barns . Will submit a letter to TC Highway Dept . and see .what happens . Correspondence • Mr. Hogan stated that he received the following correspondence: list from Court re equipment; TC Area Development & seminar; NYS Assembly/Mandates; Assemblyman Luster/bills passed; ACC; NYSEG; • 1991-92 Fiscal Overview from State; TC Youth Bureau; Annual Report/Southern Tier. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mr. Weatherby to adjourn to Executive Session on Saturday, April 13 at 8 : 00 AM. Unanimously approved. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk • pm 1 4 • in M T c Gr, . N N in co C O O N 0 O •.- G'1 N n b �' t0 to t d C •• i6 V g :D Q 40 d ,0 0 ` co tr. iii Q _ a o 0 i_ a a- 0 c O .. a`- ` w V co Y 7 co C .o. 2 a C d 7 o = d .N 6'C y e a A 2 2 � y r o al CL C.) v w m w 7 U .. a7 o C = y s ._ a e r .a u. d .@... O 0 0 CL c - U U F- w c o _ •0 r N r O tt r M N M E r N N M 6. L T M •• CD in . a p : 0) S it; o d is `o LT; v m 00 o `a m •o u tu L3 y i ay i = > V = bo. 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Z0 CAPITAL RESERWE 4CCCUNTS ::NCLUDINS INTER'EST Highwa., Reserve (.:enrol Reserve ;,ort rowel Aeserve • r;:e5erve ;or Cnemelo,,ment tnsuranc* ,f1:77. a0 F4...:m .trenase .-spreement 7.0st000-12U ler&Nt :;:eser,ee 0or :-Zeser,,P ,4e5rve t:r3r cr*m.) , tent ..7r..tr,i,nc: Petty :fl.T40$ 1 • l •1• " 1 ' .\ / • Yl' • Joint Village/Town Board Meeting April 11 , 1991 • The Joint Village of Trumansburg and Town of Ulysses Boards met on Thursday. April 11 , 1991 in the Main Meeting Room, 56 E. Main Street , Trumansburg, New York Present : Village of Trumansburg: Mayor Thomas Bennett, Trustees : Peter Meskill , Bill Griswold, John Rogers, Karl Zylich. Town of Ulysses: Supervisor Bill Hogan, Councilnersons : Tom Reitz , Carolyn Duddleston, Catherine Stover ;F I Citizens : David Weinstein, Representative for Environmental .,, Management- Council (EMC) , Roxanne Marino, Town of Ulysses Representative to the EMC, Andy Scott , Ruth Scott , Alex Rachun, • Guy Krough, Attorney, Richard Thaler, Attorney, Glen & Lisa Chase, Budd Stover, Bill Auble, Dave Auble, Susan Perkins, Steve Proctor (Free Press) , Lu Poley, Mr. & Mrs. Christopher Gunn, Joel • Podkaminer, Kenneth Christianson, severol unknown citizens. "' Recording Minutes : Sharon Housworth, Village of Trumansburg Clerk. • Mayor Bennett open the meeting at 7:30 PM. Mayor Bennett introduced David Weinstein and Roxanne Marino of the Environment Management Council (EMC) to give a • presentation. • David Weinstein presented a book to the Town Board and the Village Board demonstrating the results of a project identifying unique natural areas in Tompkins County. Mr. Weinstein also . ' passed out written materials to both boards which included a list . of sites in the Town that are designated as unique natural areas •. . (Hart ' s Woods, Frontenace Creek Glen, Smith' s Woods, LVRR Right- of-way, Ulysses Limestone Quarry, Willow Creek Glen, Diatreme, •• Taughannock Gorge, Glenwood Gorge and Maplewood Glen) Mr. Weinstein stated he will present some general comments as to what the survey is about . The inventory was an attempt to identify all the sites in the county that have unique, natural properties. The book compiles information on 184 sites in the • county. There was an earlier study done in the 70' s that listed ' . less than 100 sites; they have added 107 new sites, with a total . of 184 sites in the county. Mr. Weinstein explained how the survey can be used: help alert landowners to their valuable • ' environment resources, help developers avoid projects in sensitive area, help communities with comprehensive planning for habitat protection. The potential sites were identified from . ' former inventory, state parks and wetland which were already identified by the state and field surveyors. Some of criteria that was used to select unique sites were: rare or scarce plant species, rare or scarce animal species, rare plant or animal communities - old forest , bird nesting; The future outlook will be an on-going process. It took two years, and they will adding - more as time permits and information is made available. Mr. Weinstein explained each book has a packet in the back • which shows a map of the county designating all the unique areas. • Each site is then broken down on a data form which show specific information - location, types of vegetation, general site description, rare or scarce species present, conservation information and a summery of special features, Bill Hogan asked what does protective ownership mean. Mr. Weinstein explained that the State has designated or owns it , it does not have anything to do with the individual. . Tom Reitz asked if this could be used by planning boards and SEAR. Mr. Weinstein stated it doesn' t afford ahy legal status, it only provides information. 4• Joint Village/Town Board Meeting April 11 , 1991 It would be up to the town if they want to go through the process of designating a site as a critical environmental stn. tun ; then It • would be subject to 5EaR. Roxanne commented that if there is a Type I ar,tion and a SEOR has to be done, the survey could be used as a resource. Mr. Weinstein asked if there were any further questions. No further question asked, Mayor Bennett and board members thanked Mr. Weinstein and Roxanne Marino for their presentation. • Mayor Bennett stated the joint village/town meeting would continue regarding the Auble Annexation. Dave Auble stated he had invited representatives of the law firm to answer any questions. Dave introduced Guy Krough and • Dick Thaler. Dave continued that we are trying to go forward from the • last meeting; start to create a sense of cooperative atmosphere for the proposal of the development of Bill ' s (Bill Auble) property he has petitioned to have annexed into the village and • • develop as pert residential and part commercial . • Dick Thaler stated we are trying to come to a peaceful resolution of the problem rather than letting someone from the outside take testimony after the 29th of April. There are two or three aspect of the situation that both municipalities should address and cooperatively resolve : ( 1) rather or not the property in question should be taken or whether the municipality put into the other (2) if the property is not moved from one municipality to the other, whether or not an inter-municipal agreement can be reached between the two municipality (3) two municipalities working together since it is a parcel that lies in the village and has a boundary as a county line (4) recognizing that the development of the property for a tax base for reel estate purposes and sales tax would impact the two municipalities ; Dick continued that the Town and Village of Lansing have • entered into several municipal agreements to solve some of their problem that they had with water; Dick stated he would answer any questions; essentially the questions are: does the property stay where it is; does it stay part of the town; does it get annexed into the village ; if it • gets annexed into the village what basis does it get annexed ; if - it stays in the town, how do the utilities services become available to it ; again it will take cooperation between the two municipalities. Tom Reitz asked Dick if he was suggesting a common water/ sewer district . Dick stated its not just a common water/sewer district because one of the things you have to look at is the road systems, sidewalks, the integration between these two parcels; it may well be its not just water/sewer; you might went to have interaction of road maintenance/sidewalks etc ; these are the types of things that will require the cooperation between the two municipalities. Trustee Griswold asked the town members for their reactions from the last meeting and also the village passed a resolution setting some goals for our zoning; also if for some reason the village did not annex the property and the project were to go through, how the town would see that lend being used; just as it was proposed or do you have a different vision of it . 4/ Joint Village/Town Board Meeting April 11 , 1991 Mr. Hogan stated if the development stayed in the town, if can' t go without sewer and water ; the town would enter into to :! municipal agreement for sewer and water. Our initial resolution, our six step resolution is that the development is in the . public' s best interest ; we would go along with the development as indicated. Dick Thaler stated 48 acres would be in the commercial zone ; it would be developed as the zoning is set now; Tom Reitz answered Trustees Griswold' s question - the town' s ~ reaction from the last meeting: Tom stated he was encouraged that the village is talking with the developer and the village' s ideas, consideration and needs; and the developers needs; its a starting point ; however, the village needs to recognize that if the Article 78 is dropped, the developer can easily come back to the town and ask for a commercial zone or a planned unit development ; if it is granted the village will lose all control • of what happens. _ Discussion continued as to the size of the development ; it had been reduced down since the original petition was filed in September; Mr. Hogan stated the development would be based on • market demand. Mr. Thaler stated the use of the land is going to . effect both municipalities; the two municipalities need to reach an agreement whether the property it annexed or not ; utilities . will have to be worked out so both entities benefit The village stated they have not seen any changes or plans different from the original plan that was submitted with the • petition. Dave showed a map showing elderly housing and some • commercial ; depending on market and approval . Dick stated the developer is taking the input he received at the public hearing; and do it in steps or phases to see what the ' needs are. The first phase would be the phase, for the sake of II • argument, that you would do away with the annexation problem; would go into a development cooperative situation between the two municipalities; the developer would then have to come back if he ... . wanted to go into step two and he would have to come to both municipalities because the enlargement of the development would require change in the municipal agreement, which both parties would have to agree to; therefore you would have some interface and have some say what you are willing to do and the town would - do the same. Again in forces the developer to come to both municipalities in order to get what he wants. As he understands • it, that is what both municipalities want. Trustee Griswold asked what happens it the land is not zoned as the developer desires. Dick Thaler stated it would be a problem; what you are getting to is a problem with any negotiated thing between a municipality and developer; it happen all the time; his understanding is that the town was satisfied that this was in the public interest ; the village did not feel it was; if there is a reversal of role, then there has to be recognition of whatever terms you make, you have to set your criteria and that will either be acceptable to the town and developer or not . Trustee Griswold asked Dick if what he was saying is if the village is willing to annex , it would be annex with conditions. Dick answered it would be a way to start your negotiations between to the two municipalities. Dick stated that the village • has the ability to do it locally until the 29th. Trustee Meskill stated the village passed a resolution to • talk with the town representatives and developer to discuss this, if the town felt we were moving along in a favorable fashion, the lawsuit would be dropped. • Joint Village/Town Board Meeting • April 11, 1991 The village also passed a resolution stating we would have our entire zoning package in place by September 15th. Toni Reitz stated the town would be meeting on Saturday and he was sure this would be brought up. Listening to Dick Thaler talk about inter-municipal agreement is a new concept . What would happen if we went to some kind of agreement by which both planning boards would meet jointly and make the decision what possible will happen. • Trustee Griswold stated if the two boards are meeting and based on the town' s resolution, it is not appropriate that we 1 keep getting adjournments as long as we are making good progress ; get our planning boards together. Discussion continued regarding how many more adjournments would be allowed, no was too sure, but adjournments can' t go on. Zoning was discussed by the village board, if they did not have their zoning in place, the village had no protection. Dave stated the developer would work with the town since they • have their zoning if place. Dick Thaler asked the village board if there was a problem of leaving the property where it is which is subject to the zoning, and work on a inter-municipal agreement for water/sewer and all the utilities and putting in some criteria that the village has; then pass the zoning ordinance which would then give the direction for what you want for the rest of the land. Trustee Meskill stated the village would be giving out what • the developer wants most which is water/sewer and not having the tax base for it . Dick said you wouldn' t be giving it away, you would have an agreement ; you would have a joint voice in what would happen. The one thing you would be giving up is the tax base. • • Dick Thaler stated both municipalities are going to be effective ; whether it is in the village of town, you need to work Jointly and have input from both municipalities. Dick continued that the diagram (map) shows the road going through both • municipalities; who is going to maintain the road. Trustee Griswold asked the town if their planning board had reviewed the plans; the town stated it had not . Tom Reitz stated the planning board is only advisory. Trustee Griswold stated to the town that they expect the village to accept this when the town has not presented the plans to their planning board for their opinion. Bill Hogan stated if it is annexed, it is no longer their land. Trustee Griswold stated maybe this ought to be turned over to planning boards and set a time frame to come back with their recommendations. • Dick Thaler stated the town is in a state of quandary because of the fact, if the annexation takes place, then their input has to come from you (village) . The village has taken the position, if the annexation does not take place, then its the town problem. There hasn' t been a lot of decision made because of the fact nobody knows what the answer is going to be - is it going to be annexed or isn' t it going to annexed. Maybe the solution would be, as it was suggested, a joint planning board meeting or advisory or however the town makes their decision concerning land use and the village does the same thing. Once • that becomes finalized, then the two boards can say they have a project that has been approved by both the planning and village/town boards. Then you can decide if it will be annexed or leave in the town and have inter-municipal agreement . • 1r 1 • Joint Village/Town Board Meeting April 11 , 1991 Trustee Griswold stated he thought it makes a lot of sense to get the planning boards and town/village boards together. Trustee Rogers wanted it clarified on how someone can force annexation on the village. Discussion ensued as to if the village • zoned the property to be annex all residential, would the town want it annex . How would the judges annex the property; would they decide the zoning question. Dick Thaler stated the judges would decide the whole issue; that why a decision should be made here, before it is taken from the local people ; Bill Hogan stated he goes along with Trustee Griswold suggestion that both planning boards and maybe some help from the county planning board. It was discussed that both boards should meet individually • and then meet jointly and set a time table. The village board asked if the town is considering dropping the suit . Tom Reitz stated what happen if the town drops the suit and the village doesn' t continue on. Trustee Meskill stated if that happens; he also talked to Marty Shapiro, if the village doesn' t continue on, the developer can place another law suit, • and the village will spent more money ; the decision would probably be the same; then we would not have the opportunity to have these meeting and it will go to court. What would the sense be to have the village board prolong it. Trustee Meskill stated he wants to put this together and compromise, if it doesn' t have a negative impact on the village, specifically, the downtown area. Trustee Griswold stated he if we can come to some kind of understanding to work through this he will do his part to make sure we meet the agreement we have; this is an important first step. Trustee Meskill stated the village has already made a • commitment to do the zoning and are here in good faith. Bill Hogan stated he would be glad to drop the suit ; he wasn' t for it ; Mayor Bennett opened the meeting to the floor: Chris Gunn stated that Trustees Meskill and Griswold had said earlier there would be no annexation until the zoning is • place and now they have done a complete turn around. Trustee Griswold stated this is part of the process, just because we will have a meeting is May does not mean we are going to annex the property ; it is not reasonable to sit here, in the situation we are in, and not do anything until September 15th. Trustee Griswold asked Chris Gunn what is his proposal . Chris answered that the village proceed as you have committed yourself to do, to get zoning in place. Mayor Bennett asked if anyone else had any questions. Joel Podkaminer stated he would like to applaud the village board for their willingness to seek out the planning board and get their zoning in place before making a decision. He asked the town board if from what he heard, they voted for the annexation without consulting the planning board. The town stated yes. Bill Hogan stated they were looking at a concept ; they talked with as many people as possible; here is what the developer wanted to do with this particular area; they had to decide if it was in the public' s best interest ; as far as specifics are concerned, when the annexation took place; let the town planning work with the village planning board. • ad • Joint Village/Town Board Meeting April 11, 1991 This is a just a concept at this point ; none of these indications on the plans are concrete. • Trustee Griswold stated going back to what Chris Gunn said that he doesn' t want annexation to take place until the zoning is in place, but feels this is a big step in the right direction. • It was discussed that both planning boards would meet separately with the developer and meet again among themselves and v'' then meet jointly to discuss what theY have come up with. The chairman from each planning board would meet with the Joint village/town meeting on May 16th. • With no further questions from the public or boards, Mayor Bennett presented a MOTION, seconded by Trustee Griswold to adjourn to a joint meeting on May 16, 1991 at 7:30 PM at the village office. Unanimously approved. Respectfully submitted, s. Sharon Housworth, Clerk Village of Trumansburg • •r, • I • • • • • • • • M ge TOWN OF ULYSSES ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING April 13 , 1991 • • Present : William Hogan, Supervisor ; Thomas Reitz , Catherine • 1 Stover , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, • Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk . • Others Present : David Auble, Steve Proctor/Free Press . • Mr . Hogan called the Adjourned Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 10 : 00 AM. ;'. Mr . Hogan said one order of business is that we need a resolution changing Townline Road to Buck Hill Road and contact the two • people on the road that are in the town and let them know the name has been changed. Mrs . Georgia said those residents are in • • favor of a name change that is consistent in all three townships • the town crosses . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to officially change the name of that portion of Townline Road located in the • Town of Ulysses , to Buck Hill Road North, in conformity with the Towns of Hector and Enfield, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. • • Mr. Hogan Aye • Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted. Mr. Reitz said that in February, the board agreed to discuss that if the Village Board made some indication that they would talk • • about the Auble Annexation question, we would consider taking action about withdrawing the Article 78 . Then we further confirmed that at the March meeting, to delay any action until April 15 . Think our deadline is coming up, and should either • take action or get a sense from the board as to where they want to go . Mr. Hogan asked if Mr. .Reitz wants to drop the Article • 78 . Mr. Reitz said some action should be taken; should discuss if the Village Board is acting in good faith, if by dropping the Article 78 , what will happen. Mrs . Duddleston said if we drop it • • altogether, do they guarantee they will continue in good faith. Mr . Hogan said that Pete Meskill. made the statement the other night that if we drop the Article 78 and the Village does • nothing, the developer comes back in and the process starts all over . That is not the answer. . Mrs . Duddleston said it ' s nice to • have the Article 78 there as leverage. Mr . Reitz said Mrs . Duddleston asked what assurances we have that the Village will continue. . . one thing I think is they are in a position that they have to do something otherwise the developer could come back with another proposal . Also, according to Mr. Thaler ' s comments , if this goes to. the panel of judges , they could come back with a possible Yes for annexation but also the use of the land. Think it 's a strong argument to keep it locally if possible. Mr . Hogan said he thinks Mr. Thaler made a good strong plea for negotiations and agreements between the two municipalities; for the need for the two to work together . Mr . Reitz said he thinks it ' s clear for the developer to start moving on this , the process that they would have to go through would be similar in the future. . . for instance presenting Phase I to the planning boards for consideration and input . If we drop the Article 78 , the annexation proceedings are terminated, the land stays in the town. At that point the developer could come back to the town asking for a .commercial zone. • lr Town of Ulysses 2 Adjourned Town Board Meeting April 13, 1991 • Mrs . Duddleston asked if we know at this point how much longer we can keep the Article 78 on hold. Mr . Hogan said Mr . Thaler was going to look into that . Mr. Auble said the real question is • what is the town' s goal and how can that best be achieved. Get the impression that you are concerned with raising tax revenues, creating jobs and creating services . What the Article 78 is doing is forcing a faster solution of that revenue problem. Not hearing any concern from the Village about that and maybe their economic future is brighter than the Town 's . Mr . Hogan said he thinks we have given the Village a strong message that we feel development is a good idea, within reason. We told them we wanted a good faith effort on their part to at • least consider this , talk about it , talk to the developer, have their planning board look at it . . . which they have agreed to do. When Tom' s motion was made he said that if we felt the Village was showing good faith, that we would consider dropping the Article 78, so I think we should consider doing that now as a • good faith gesture; and at the same time telling them that if this thing comes up again, then we will have to go with an Article 78 and we won' t drop it . . .will drop it this time because • • you are showing good faith, but if you don' t follow through with sc • good faith effort then we won' t be in a position to drop it the next time. Mrs . Duddleston asked what harm there would be in keeping it on • hold as a good faith gesture . . .keeping it where it is and still having it there as leverage. Mr. Reitz said it 's relationship as • well as at some point the court will say you have to show up on a „• • certain date, once you do that it 's out of our hands . We did say • in February and later in other subsequent resolutions that if the Village showed that indication that we would. . . did put together a c. resolution and moved as follows : WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses on their initiation of the Article 78 proceedings on February 12 , 1991 against the Village of Trumansburg regarding annexation of property owned by William Auble, requested the Village to enter into discussions with the • petitioner and • WHERE, the Town of Ulysses subsequently requested a delay in the proceedings until April 15 to allow the Village of Trumansburg an opportunity to review plans for the Auble property proposal and WHEREAS, the Village of Trumansburg has agreed to meet and has • - met on April 1 , 1991 and on April 11 , 1391 and discussed in "Good Faith" with the developer and Town of Ulysses of their concerns and needs of the community and, • THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, the Town of Ulysses by action of the • • Board does hereby withdraw the Article 78 proceedings against the Village of Trumansburg regarding the petition of William Auble as dated on or about September 15 , 1990 , and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, the Article 78 proceedings of the Town of Ulysses is terminated, the Village of Trumansburg is expected to - continue to meet in an expeditious manner with the petitioners and discuss the proposed request as outlined in the recent plans submitted by the petitioner . Mrs . Stover seconded the motion. Mr . Auble said that you are making a statement there that if they continue to meet in good faith. . . there ' s a lot of ' ifs ' and a lot of good faith. They could easily go through the motions of meeting and use up our time and yours . . . if you really want to establish a source of revenue to solve your budget problems, this is an easy out and can cause a delay with the Village. I don' t see where you can say there has been total good faith effort in these discussions, because the bulk of the discussion has been on • Town of Ulysses 3 Adjourned Town Board Meeting • April 13 , 1991 drop the Article 78 as opposed to what kinds of things can be done to make this go forward. Instead of solving the problem they have been focusing on just their side of eliminating an irritation to them. Haven' t seen an indication of total good faith at this point . They have been forced to sit down with us twice . . . they didn' t invite me to the meeting until the day of the meeting . They aren' t really into this in the manner that the Town indicated they should be. . . think there should be at least another month of discussion before any kind of pressure is '\ ® relieved here otherwise think just will be relieved going through the ” motion. We are looking at a possible two year delay before we can do anything on this project just because they are saying they need until September to get their zoning . in place. Mr . Hogan said this thing has been going on for ten years , this • is the first ray of hope . . .how do you foster cooperation. . . can • you get more cooperation suing them, or say drop the suit and let ' s cooperate . If you don' t then we will have to do something else . Mr . Reitz said he would like to address what is considered good • faith. . . think we have seen a tremendous turn-around of the Village Trustees , maybe not in the direction you [Auble] want to see it happen. • Mr . Auble said this resolution is to drop the Article 78 . . . think you have spent a lot of time and money. . .Mrs . Duddleston asked what we have to guarantee they will continue, once we drop the Article 78 , that ' s it . Mr. Reitz said there are no guarantees . • Mr. Auble asked if it wouldn' t be better to ask for a schedule of meetings from them. Would like to see this kind of a motion, to • table the one until the village comes back with their indications . • Mr . Reitz said how many meetings is it going to take. . . the Planning Boards are coming back to the town and village boards on May 16 with recommendations to their boards . . . that is firm. Mr. Hogan asked where we are on this motion. . .Mr . Reitz said you • can make friendly amendments to the resolution, you could table the resolution for further consideration, you can pass or defeat the resolution. Mrs . Duddleston asked how we can pass a resolution that the village will do something? Mr . Reitz said because to terminate the Article _78 .proceedings . . .Mrs . Duddleston asked, how can you give the village . an order in this resolution and know they will do it? Mr . Hogan said maybe you can word it ' expected to continue. . . ' . Mrs . Duddleston said .she would rather put the Article 78 on hold until they do it ! Mr. Reitz said you want a • written agreement from the village that they will *continue to meet? Mrs . Duddleston said how else do we know they will . . . we can ' t tell them they have to meet by passing a town resolution. Mr . Reitz said he was assuming, ..that their previous resolutions do say that . Mr . Reitz . read a communication from the village dated March 11, 1991 . _ . Mr. Hogan said if we initiated the Article 78 and Auble intervened, it 's our Article 78 . and if we cancel it the whole thing is cancelled. Mr . Reitz suggested Mr . Hogan contact the town attorney and get her opinion. Mrs . Duddleston moved. to table the. resolution. No second was heard . Mr . Hogan asked if there was any further discussion on the motion still on the floor . Mr . Reitz asked for a roll call vote. Mr. • • {At Fy.. .L�l.�. �. '� v w.�/ 4 t;$ r iY'i!: iii. i,i'.'e.%i'�r ..,r:n.'>..,1 w'i,'`(..��ii . :J. `IS1. ..i E,1.•:.l.t. 4. •'t'�'- 'j`'1 11% _ 1 `e ai74 c:off,. ..V. .�•.'1•. .•I�i:•{... •a. �ry .. �:k`1-.; _ •f1F.. . ' i . .•*t 4>^s . �l` . ' � i Town of Ulysses 4 Adjourned Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1991 Weatherby asked what the vote was on and Mr . Hogan said it is on the motion to Tom' s resolution to drop the Article 78 with the hope that the village will continue in good faith to negotiate, their planning board and village board, with the developer. Mr . Weatherby said he was against the Article 78 from the start , but since it did go through, the money has been spent , since we have until April 29 , what is wrong with trying to get the village to • sure up their plans . . . as long as the Article 78 did a little bit of what it was meant to do - force them to start meeting . . . what could we do to make sure they will continue to do this? Mrs . Stover asked Mrs . Georgia if she knew how much had been expended so far . Last bill from the lawyer was over $500 . 00 . Mr . Hogan said if you think you can get more cooperation from the village by leaving the ARticle 78 in there, which is holding the law suit over their heads , or if you think there would be more • cooperation saying we told you where we stand, now you told us you are going to talk to the developer and give this thing some serious thought . . . so we will drop the Article 78 . Think the Article 78 has done it 's job. Mr. Hogan asked if someone would offer a friendly amendment to the fourth paragraph of the resolution, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mr . Weatherby [as • • already typed in the foregoing resolution] . Roll Call Vote: Mr. Weatherby Aye Mrs . Duddleston Nay Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye • Mr. Hogan Aye Mr . Hogan said the Article 78 is officially dropped. • • Mr. Auble and the Board discussed the concept of an • Intermunicipal Agreement . Mr . Hogan stated that another item to be considered would be water/part of the agreement . What we want • to do is do some research on an Intermunicipal Agreement before our next meeting . . . get facts together. At our next joint meeting with the village talk to them about this . Mr. Reitz said a good idea that Mrs . Stover brought up earlier is in continuing on with • this proposed development is a charge to our Planning Board with what we are expecting them to review when Mr . Auble goes to them. • Mr . Hogan said what he heard from a couple of village trustees is that they want to know the percentage of what will be residential and what will be commercial . . . that is the main issue. Mr . Auble said the planning board issue is going to be more of what is going to be the actual design and think that is premature because we are really in a planning process . Mr . Hogan said that can be explained to them when meeting . . . that this is very preliminary. Mrs . Stover said that a planning board member was very concerned that the town board lay down some kind of date that they meet and come back to the joint boa.rds . . . this is a whole different concept and they need a charge of what we want . Mr . Hogan suggested putting together a charge for the planning board. Mr . Reitz suggested wording it "the Charge is to review the concept plan with David Auble of Auble' s property" . . .Mrs . Stover suggested stating that there was an agreement between the town and village boards for the planning boards to look at this and jointly meet . . .Mr . Reitz said the minutes from the last Joint Town/Village meeting should reflect this . Mr . Hogan stated that he will write something up . . . that at a joint meeting that certain things were agreed upon. Want them [Town Planning Board] to look at the concept and give us their opinion of the impact on the town; look at the request for the .� '�" .. �. :'.r, ....•.;>�,1�' '�• 1, a...f i'..y. .t:. rtit:' f peF.'1 i r' '. _ ?' .1' I�.j('i. 4, Town of Ulysses 5 Adjourned Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1991 lj following : a) should land be developed; b) percentage of • residential vs commercial ; c) should land be annexed or not ; d) explore elements of an intermunicipal agreement (should one be • considered?) - consider water, sewer, roads , police. Mr . Reitz stated that he thought there was a timetable of mid- April on County Youth dollars . . .we delayed any action in December on how the money would be spent . These are County dollars only, • that we are eligible for . The Joint Youth Commission has some recommendations , and would like the Town Board to consider allowing the expenditures for $1,080 . for the DARE program, $5 , 245 . for UYU, $3, 800 . to the library, and the summer jobs program $1 , 000 . That totals $10 , 325 . 00 . These are just some ideas we are asking the town to consider . . . the town has budgeted something over $6,000 . Will be looking for matching funds and other grant monies . • • Mr. Reitz asked for a motion to approve the concept and advise the County Youth Board that this is the Town of Ulysses general intent, moved by Mr . Hogan, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Hogan asked for discussion. Mrs . Stover said she would like to have explained the difference between the $6,000 . and $10,000 . Mr. Reitz explained. . . the County says we have $10, 000 . eligible; • of the $10,000 . , the Town says we will take $6, 144 . ; of the difference between the two figures , individual groups have extra grant monies that they get . . .we aren' t spending any more than we have budgeted. Hearing no further discussion, Mr. Hogan asked • • for a vote. . .unanimously approved. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved and seconded by Mr . Weatherby. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at • 11 :00 AM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L . Georgia • Town Clerk pm • • • • • lee TOWN OF ULYSSES EXECUTIVE SESSION April 15, 1991 • • Present: Supervisor William P. Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston and Robert Weatherby Others Present: Christine Springer, Court Clerk and Judge Roger Rector. The Town Board met and Mrs . Duddleston moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz to go into executive session to discuss personnel matters . Unanimously approved. The Village of Trumansburg has abolished their court system and it will be turned over to the Town of Ulysses to handle. Discussion took place in regards to the work load and cases. The Board discussed this at length. Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Robert Weatherby the following; -• RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses set the salary for the Court Clerk, Christine Springer (a full time position at 40 hours per week) at $17,680 per year. This new pay structure be begin April 1, 1991. FURTHER RESOLVED, that this position also include full family health care benefits effective April 1, 1991 to be paid by the Town of Ulysses . FURTHER RESOLVED, the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses set the salary of Justice Roger Rector at $8,850 per year to become effective April 1, 1991 and which would also include individual health care coverage paid by the Town of Ulysses. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mrs. Duddleston aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. I hereby certify that the foregoing resolution was adopted by the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses at an Executive Session held April 15, 1991. Witness my hand and seal of said Town this Fifteenth Day of April Nineteen Hundred and Ninety-one. Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk G , . .t* 'r 1r4 .r' '�• t .rc}lt�t ..b %'i r 'rl.'F. ;t'��{.. .i'n ir! ^1 r t ... ' ,. '.�lrr`A.�ir`. �aZ't':.•.Y+.r 'ir:.t TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING , • APRIL 221 1991 • • 7 :30 P .M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Rol and Reynolds , Budd Stover , Geraldine Keil ; Gerald Perkins , Seville Reulein ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp .- Alex Rachun . OTHERS PRESENT : Tom Reitz Chairman , David Tyler , called the meeting to order at 7 :35 p .m . Minutes of the April 8th Planning Board Meeting were handed out and read . A correction was to be made in regards to the motion to approve .c the proposed Site Plan Review and Approval . David Tyler voted "Aye" . Geraldine Keil made the motion that the minutes be approved with the correction ; seconded by Roland Reynolds . Motion approved by all . Richard Garner had contacted Dave Tyler and indicated that he had some • questions regarding the Site Plan Review but was unable to attend this meeting . Mondays were not good for him . After general discussion it was decided that Mondays and Tuesdays were the best nights for everyone . The group will meet again next Monday , April 29 . A new PUD was presented to the Planning Board by Alex Rachun regarding Eugene Moore's Outboard Center to be located on Dubois Road at the old Marion Property . • The Planning Board received a letter from William Hogan regarding the • Auble Annexation . It was decided at a joint meeting of the Town and Village Boards on April 11 that their planning boards meet with the developer to discuss the Auble Annexation question , review the request and hold a meeting with both planning boards to discuss the project . The joint meeting will be May 16th . • Tom Reitz announced that the Tompkins County Planning Board is working on a comprehensive Park and Ride proposal . There will be a request coming forth to the Town Planning Board addressing the Park and Ride locations and possible sites in the Town of Ulysses . • Discussion was directed to the Moore PUD . Alex Rachun gave a little • • history as to why this is before the Planning Board . Marion 's was a lawn mower , chain saw repair and sales business . In 1974 a special • permit was given to Marions to have this business . One of the • stipulations in that permit was that when the Marions sold that property it would revert back to a residential use . Alex explained that the County Planning needs to be involved agency because it is on • a county road . Other interested parties would be County Planning , Town of Ulysses , EOC , EMC , and the Town of Ithaca . Some questions and concerns that came up that need to be addressed to •• Mr . Moore are : a) What will be the use of the center area in the building? b) Bring neighbors to comment , c) Bulk waste storage and disposal ; d) 38 inaccurate representation of property line ; e) Water disposal from testing tanks ; f ) unique natural area - Diatrene - ' critical environmental area ; g ) existing drainage in building ; h) period of time on existing lease ; i ) location of outdoor parking of • boats ; and j ) why the drilled well questions . It was decided that the Planning Board Committee would meet next week , Monday , April 29 at the location of this PULL on Dubois Rd . at 7 :00 pm . Alex will present a list of our concerns to Eugene Moore . David Tyler asked Tom Reitz how we , the Planning Board Committee , would get background/summary on the Auble Annexation proposal . Tom Reitz volunteered to give us an overview on the Auble based on the facts . The meeting wan adjourned at 9 :20 p .m . • . • •• • ., 5 i5 f y J' �. Fbf:f. o••E�t k.,)Fn .i ii.,y . :V., ',�C' 4 ,.if .'.... n ,? L'" .o'i. 4 . .. , .��.. r ,. • .y • TOWN OF ULYSSES r, PLANNING HOARD MEETING APRIL 29 , 1991 7 :00 F .M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Member:, - Budd Stover , Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins , Seville Reulein , Richard Garner ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/building Insp .- Alex Rachun . OTHERS PRESENT : Tom Reitz , William Hogan , William Auble , Eugene Moore • and wife , Elvin West . e . The Planning Board Committee met at 7 :00 p .m , at the Eugene Moore RUD site on Dubois Road . The Committee walked the boundaries and investigated the proximity of the unique natural area - the Diatrene . The Planning Board Committee then resumed the meeting at 7 :50 p .m . at the Town Hall . Tom Reitz presented the Committee with a history of the Auble property . William Auble presented the Committee with a map of the property . The section outlined in red , is the section to be rezoned commercial . In 1980 , Auble requested to the. Town of Ulysses to rezone the 38 acres to Commercial ; it was denied . In 1981 , there was a petition submitted to annex the property , 38 .5 acres , to the Village . On January 25 , 1982 , there was a public hearing held on that request . On April 13 , 1982 , the Town denied that request for the following reasons : "lack of details , concern for commercial next to gas and propane tanks , concerns from opposition of those most effected and trailer park incompletion . " The Committee asked for the results of the survey which was sent out to all residents in the Town of Ulysses in 1982 . 360 responses were returned . The question presented was " I am in favor of annexation to the Village . " " I am not in favor of annexation . " Results : 191 (81 village) in favor of annexation ; 153 (66 village) not in favor . The second question on the survey was " I am in favor of unrestricted use of this area . " " I am in favor of restricted use of this area and I am not in favor of using this area for commercial development . " Results : 211 (51 village) in favor of unrestricted and (35 village) for restricted use ; 128 (58 village) not in favor for any commercial development . " June 22 , 1988 another proposal was submitted to annex the property . The purpose of the annex is to join the 38 .5 acres to the adjoining • parcel situated in the Village of Trumansburg consisting of 13 .8 acres , making it all a parcel of 52 .04 acres . " It is proposed that once annexation is complete that the entire 52 .04 acreas will be developed as a EUD which will consist of retail establishments , light commercial , office buildings , community buildings , multi-dwelling units , and single family homes . " On August 22 , 1988 a public hearing was held . On November 21 , 1988 the Village and Town met . Each of the Boards denied the annexation by a 3-2 vote . On July 6 , 1989 the Town received a letter from Thaler and Thaler indicating the continued interest for the development . On August 2 , 1989 Willian. Auble met with the Town Planning Board to discuss the possibilities for a business district . Nothing transpired until September 13 , when a new petition was submitted to annex the property and to establish the PUD . The public hearing was held on October 26 , 1990 . On December 10 , 1990 the village denied the request for annexation . A short time after that (around the 15th) revised plans were submitted to the Town . The revised plan included : 1 ) retail /commercial sales ; 2) light industry ; 3) office buildings ; 4) community buildings , and 5) all single family residences (no multi-family dwellings) . With the basic plan and further discussions with the developer and the property owners and the attorneys , the Town Board did approve on • January 8 , 1991 the annexation request . It has now been turned over to both Planning Boards of the Village and the Town to make recommendations on land use . Alex Rachun indicated he had received some correspondence from the health department regarding the Pleasant Grove Associates . The '1 'r •. 2i ., LjtM ,i,i':�,'r•'q• �*+,A.:'.IP uy.2 . 9 +{r .R; rl ..' �Yf� �•r. x.. . it •fll'� t .. 2i'I l� 15..1' 4 t4` ... 1® :. r reso ontae was that the Health Department was an involved agency because • they need to issue sewage permit plan approval and water system plan approval . NYS Environmental Conservation is also an involved agency . They hive scheduled A meeting with Mr . Gulledge for May 1 to begin to •_lather this information . Ale:' also announced that another POD request will be submitted to the Town Board at the next meeting regarding a piece of property that is adjacent to the State Park and across the street from Taughannock Falls and they want to put in a log home manufactory office . • • The committee then went back to the Moore POD proposal . It was decided to asl:: County Planning to rnmment on the unique natural area ( the Diatrene) as we don ' t have enough information on that . One concern is the location of the property line near the house . The committee recommends they may consult with the owners of the house regarding straightening out the property line between the house and • the shop . The center part of the building will be used for boat storage . The neighbor to the shop , Elvin West , was present . He had no problem with the business being next to him . Mr . Moore explained that the oil is skimmed off the test tank and put in a storage tank . A truck comes and pumps the oil tank and the oil is hauled away every couple of years . The test tank itself is never drained . Concern was expressed about the drainage in the building . Mr . Moore indicated he • didn ' t need any drains , he would just seal off the existing drains . There will be no fuel , or pumps on property . It was noted that the • tank on the property near the house has been removed . Mr . Moore may • • add a bathroom later , he will have to have a septic system at that • point . Mr . Moore's lease runs out August 1st in the city . David Tyler asked about the number of boats to be stored outside . Mr . Moore explained that there wopuld be 6-10 boats waiting for repair . He would get them out of there fast - normally within a week 's Lime • period . A fence will be put up on the north side as a buffer . Mr . 1 Moore will be drilling a well because right now the water comes from the house . He wants his own water . Flans to put in a septic system later . Alex Rachun recommended including the Health Department as an involved agency . Concern was expressed about the noise level . Mr . Moore explained that • the inboard motors are quieter than a car . Outboards are noisier , but he will be working on them inside the building . Mr . Moore indicated he had no intentions to expand with more buildings . He explained his father started the business in 1974 . Eugene Moore took the business over in 1988 . He wants to keep it a small business . David Tyler would like an amendment to be made regarding the • boundaries . Alex Rachun recommends we tentatively put in the new property lines so we can no ahead and present this to the appropriate agencies . Mr . Moore was questioned regarding lighting . He intends to have low profile flood lights directly over the building on the north and south sides . The only sign will be on the front of the building . It will he a 3' x 5' plastic faced sign . The outside storage will be boats . There will be one storage tank inside for the oils . There will be minimal garbage . • David Tyler recommended that Mr . Moore speak with the neighbors across the street before the public hearing . The only construction he plans to do is paint it up and add gutters . Major work to be done inside . Ten pine trees are to be planted on south side boundary line . It was suggested that maybe a fence or shrubs be placed between the parking area and the south boundary to help form a buffer for neighbors across the street . it was recommended to change the first sentence of Moore's proposal to read : "Small marine engine repair shop for Outboard Motors and Boat Storage . . . " Our next meeting will be Tuesday , May 7 , 1991 at 7 :30 p .m . The agenda will be to go through the SEOR form for the Moore PIM , Site Flan Review , and the Auble Annexation . The meeting was adjourned at 9 :45 p .m . • I . :f TOWN OF ULYSSES ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MAY 6, 1991 PRESENT. Chairman Gail Zabawsky; Board Members Ken Christianson , James Hickey , Carl Mann and George Tselelcisl Zoning Officer Alex Rachun ; Secretary Rita Brown . OTHERS PRESENT : Chairman Gail Zabawsky called the meeting to order at 7:30 p .m. The first hearing is James DelSignore for property located at 1379 Taughannock Blvd . Mr . DelSignore purchased the property prior to 1977 so he is required to have 150 feet of frontage , which is lake frontage in his case . His property is not that . He is currently wanting to build a house on his property . Mark Bristol was attended this meeting to represent Mr. • DelSignore . He explained that there is currently a cottage on the property which has been there from the 1930's or early 40's . He would like to take that cottage down and put up a new structure approximately the same size and same use . • • • The existing cottage is approximately 800-1000 square feet . • The new structure will be approximately 1200 square feet . The septic has been approved by the County Health Department . Alex Rachun stated that concern was raised by some of the neighbors that did call on this project . One of the major concerns was drainage . Thomas Parziale , neighbor to the north of this property, was there to comment on this . • "Once it hits the cliff the property goes on an angle to the lake , so if the drainage from this house comes straight off • ® of where it is now it is likely to go down my bank onto my property down at the lake." He would like to see the drainage pass directly over the DelSignore's property which is 30-40' over from where the house is being built . There is no existing drainage now . "But now, depending on how you grade the land , you could put a lot of water on both neighbors property . The bank is so steep there that all the stones erode." Gail Zabawsky asked if there were any • proposals in the drawings to take care of the drainage off • • of the building itself . Mr. Bristol indicated that there • • were "not any specifically but they could tailor it to make the neighbors to happy . " Alex Rachun indicated that he had • questioned the architect on the project and he said that there was a designation for footer drains per say and that it wouldn 't be of concern . • Mr. Hickey moved the following : WHEREAS : the variation involved in this particular project is not substantial in relation to the requirement especially in view of the fact • that it is a lake property and in view of the fact that there is an existing residence there in any event . WHEREAS: there would be no increased population as result of this proposed project . WHEREAS : there would not be any significant change in the character of the neighborhood as result of this project . WHEREAS : there is no apparent alternative means of obviating this particular difficulty which surrounds the desire to build a new and improved home other than the project that is sought by the variance . BE IT RESOLVED : that the Town of Ulysses Zoning Board :l � ! r =1 .� '•.n. ev\,. .!�'.'l. �l. ;r ' .i: 1r . 0 M1 °�•: .4' ". ..fir 'q:., , of Appeals grant approval specifically contingent upon statement from the architec- tural firm employed by the applicant certify- ing that there will not be a problem relative to drainage seeping off onto adjacent properties and drainage will be confined to the subject property alone . To the best of • • their professional opinion such certification be presented to the Zoning Officer. It being made clear that the drainage that we refer to is the drainage from the placement and development of the project . Motion seconded by Mr . Christianson . Ms . Zabawsky called for a vote as follows : Mr. Christianson aye Mr . Mann aye Mr. Tselekis aye Mr . Hickey aye Ms. Zabawsky aye Variance approved as the motion was stated . • At 7 :48 p .m. the Board began the second hearing for the night with Edward and Marlene Wolf , of 1691 Taughannock • Blvd . , requesting a variance which was denied based on Article V Section 1 in that a principal dwelling must be 50 • feet from a highway right of way and this new dwelling is • proposed to be 40 feet from the right of way. Mr . Wolf explained that the house will sit on part of the existing foundation . They are not replacing it with a larger house but it will sit closer to the right of way than the existing house. No neighbors were present but neighbors had called • Alex Rachun in support of this proposal . Mr . Hickey moved the following : • WHEREAS: the variation requested is deemed insub- stantial in view of the fact that it is no greater than the existing variation and that the replacement would not further vary from the requirement than the existing building . WHEREAS: there will be not increased population as result of this project . WHEREAS: there will be no substantial change to the character of the neighborhood as result of the project and no detriment to adjoining properties. WHEREAS: there is no alternative method for achieving this particular object which is the building of a new structure to upgrade the property other than the project for which the variance is required . BE IT RESOLVED : noting that nobody has spoken in opposition the Town of Ulysses Zoning Board of Appeals grants approval of this variance. Motion seconded by Mr. Christianson . Ms . Zabawsky called for a vote as follows : Mr . Christianson aye Mr. Mann aye Mr . Tselekis aye Mr. Hickey aye Ms . Zabawsky aye 1 ' 4 . • Variance granted . 1• At 7 :52 p .m. the committee began the hearing for James Zifchock property on 1691 Trumansburg Road . This application to build a commercial structure and operating a retail business was denied based on Article V Section 1 .d •• which says a commercial property purchased prior to August 1977 must have 43 ,560 square feet of usable space for non ' residential use . • • Mr. Zifchock explained that he had a business associate that would like to operate a used auto sales which requires a small structure . There is only 14 ,000 square feet in this lot . The size of the structure would be 20'x30' (5% of the • lot) . There is nothing on the property now and is located south of the County Home , almost acroe from Mery Hammond . Kenneth McMillen , 1694 Trumansburg Road - opposite the location in question is strongly opposed to this. Mr. McMillen felt that this is a rural section , there is more of a commercial section up further near the Perry City Rd . area . His major concern was too much traffic ; Hammond 's • expanded and his business has generated much more traffic to • the area. • Julie Hovencamp of 1690 Trumansburg Road is also opposed to it . They do not want increased traffic . Don and Karen 7 are in the process of purchasing the Argetsinger property at 1685 Trumansburg Rd . Their concern was if Mr . Zifchock was planning to remove the trees that separates their properties . He doesn't plan to take all of them down . IIIMr. Hickey asked how much of an inventory they planned to keep there. Mr. Zifchock indicated between ten and fifteen cars . Mr . Hickey asked if it would be similar in scope to Automotive Designs . Mr. Zifchock said no , his business would be strictly sales, no service . • Alex Rachun explained that he has a lot that requires a one acre lot to carry on this business . This parcel of land must be one acre to enable it to be a legal conforming lot • for this business district . If no variance is granted , it cannot be used commercially. • Mr. Zifchock indicated that he would maintain ownership of the lot and it was a business associate who wants to run the business . Mr . Mann commented that in the five questions that the Board must consider in granting or not granting a variance that question 1 . "How substantial the variation is in relation to the requirement ." seems to be the main one. "But if we're talking 14 ,000 square feet in a lot versus the required 44 ,000 square feet , it would be difficult to say • how that is not a substantial variance . " Mr . Hickey asked if Mr . Zifchock would be able to purchase more land north of his property to enable him to make it a conforming lot . It was suggested to Mr. Zifchock that he come back to the Board with some other alternatives that might not pose these problems . Mr . Mann made a motion that we table this at this time until the next meeting , June 3rd at 7 :30 p .m. The motion was seconded by George Tselekis . Ms Zabawsky called for a vote as follows : Mr. Christianson aye Mr . Mann aye Mr. Tselekis aye Mr. Hickey aye Ms. Zabawsky aye it Motion approved . Mr. Hickey moved that the minutes of the April 1 , 1991 meeting be approved . Mr . Tselekis seconded . Mr . Christianson aye Mr . Mann abstained Mr. Tselekis aye Mr. Hickey aye Ms. Zabawsky aye Hearing no further business , Ms . Zabawsky moved to adjourn the meeting , seconded by Mr. Tselekis . Meeting adjourned at 8 :30 p .m . • 1 1 „ Sr :r . t:1 , , . . ,_ .: , ., .r .A' eri ,t.. lit . !r :- . .. ;C.;: b,. ! ,-..% . let ,,' TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING MAY 7 , 1991 7 :30 P.M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - • • % Budd Stover , Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins , Seville 4. Reulein , Richard Garner ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp .- Alex Rachun . OTHERS PRESENT: Mr & Mrs . Eugene Moor ? , Dave Auble , Mr . & Mrs . Andrew Scott . The meeting was called to order at 7:40 p .m. The minutes of the April . 22 and April 29 meetings were read. Budd Stover made the motion that . the minutes of April 22 be approved; seconded by Seville Reulein ; all • approved . Corrections to be made to the minutes of April 29 meeting are as follows: 1 ) the first sentence of Moore's proposal to read, "Small marine engine repair shop , franchised for sales of marine ' motors, parts and accessories. ” 2) fourth paragraph from the end in • regards to the boundaries in the Moore proposal - change to read "The Board recommends an adjustment in the boundaries. " Gerald Perkins made the motion to approve the minutes of April 2? with the above mentioned corrections; seconded by Geraldine Keil . All approved. . The Planning Board Committee then worked through the SEAR application • for the Moore proposal . The Board will make an addendum to County Planning regarding the Diatrene . Special note was made on #20 regarding the abandoned cars and drums. Note to read: "Downhill part of property has been utilized as depository of abandoned automobiles , , empty drums, and miscellaneous discarded items. " When looking at the • dimensions of the property, it was discovered that the lot next to this parcel that has the house on it is a non-conforming lot as it doesn' t have enough frontage . David Tyler asked Alex Rachun to write • a letter to Attorney David Gersh with a copy to Attorney John Albanese who represents Elvin West , addressing this problem. After completely reviewing the SEAR form, the Committee felt this was a negative declaration . Rita Brown will re-type this SEAR form and get it back • to Alex so that he could get it to County Planning by Friday. Since Roland Reynolds was absent from the meeting, it was decided to hold off discussion on Site Plan until the next meeting. It was decided that the Village and Town Planning Boards will meet Monday, May 13th to discuss the Auble proposal Jointly to make our recommendations to the Town Boards for their Joint meeting, Thursday, , May 16th . • . At 9130 p .m. the meeting was turned over to discussion on the Auble . proposal . Dave Tyler gave input from the Master Plan Committee . One • motion was that the decision on the proposed Auble development be deferred until the Master Plan is in place (about one year) . Another motion put forth was that the Auble parcel be designated for residential exclusively - mixed views . Discussion was aimed at the four questions asked by the Board. 1 ) Should the land be developed. After much discussion it was felt that this land will inevitably be developed. The question is how and when . 2) Percentage of residential vs. commercial ? Richard Garner expressed concern that the Town already has commercial land which is undeveloped, i .e . , land across from Shur-Save , business district down Route 96 where Stover's Lumber yard is, Halseyville area now pretty much commercial . " Should we keep our commercial areas closer together or do you think we should spread them out?" Seville Reulein asked what the situa- tion was with water in the Village . Andy Scott felt that if they .1 r • .YI a. . • '�. �)'' ' '• .. •ter... .. . '/• 1r/� • n .ter 1u S. �. •..l 'i j®q annex , Auble will get water and sewer : if they don' t annex , he felt they would still be able to get water as there is a water main running within 500 ft . of the site . • Dave Auble commented that as far as economics to the Village , " as • commercial is developed on the site , it would be an even greater tax revenue with a more modest cost to the community than residential would be . . . . " "Residential costs more to maintain and provide services for because it Increases the load on the school system and you have higher usage of water and sewer . " Getting back to the question of residential vs. commercial , • the consensus of the committee felt it should be a mixture of residential and commercial , but no percentage could be put on it at this point without having more input from the public . 3) Should land be annexed or not? Annexation resolves the intermunicipal agreements. If annexed it would be under one jurisdiction . Taxes are the way to spread the cost . Scott indicated that the Village Planning Board is working on their master plan and that they were proposing that there be some commercial near Lamoreaux and Quinn on Rt . 96. With both the Village and Town Planning Boards working on master plans, even though they are not done , they should be considered. 4) Should an intermunicipal agreement be considered? What would be included? David Tyler felt that intermunicipal agreements may be necessary • but should be used only as a last resort as they can be very difficulty to work out . Municipalities would need to decide • who would govern what . The meeting was adjourned at 10 :20 p .m. • TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANE I'. . TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING May 14 , 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby , Councilpeople; James Meeker , Highway Superintendent . Others Present : Alex Rachun, Bldg/Zoning; David Auble, Beach Stover , Mr . & Mrs . Gunn, Antonia Demas , Barbara & Christian Boissonnas , Carl Mann, Marty Murtaugh. Mr . Hogan, Supervisor , called the meeting of the Town Board to order at 8 : 00PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . • Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mr . Reitz to approve minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of April 9, 1991, Adjourned Board Meeting April 2 , 1991 , Adjourned Board Meeting of April 13 , 1991 . Unanimously approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department Absent Report : Representative James Mason Absent Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #145-186 • (holding out #165) in the amount of $19, 638 . 81, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mr. Weatherby . Unanimously approved. Mrs . Duddleston moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz to adjourn to an Executive Session to discuss voucher #165 . Unanimously approved. Supervisor ' s Financial Report Not available . Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Mrs . Demas , Cayuga Street , voiced her concern over the appointment to the Planning Board of Mr . Perkins . Asked the Board why they chose Mr . Perkins when there were five who applied, and one who is a professional planner. Mr . Perkins is on the Village Planning Board as well . Would like to hear from the Board why and how that decision was made, what process you went through in appointing him. Mr . Hogan said that all the candidates were interviewed, reviewed their qualifications and availability, etc. At the last Regular Town Board meeting had a brief discussion regarding the candidates , a motion was made to appoint Mr. Perkins , seconded and voted upon. Mrs . Demas asked what it was based on, why people felt Mr. Perkins was more qualified than the other candidates . . . those who voted for him. Mrs . Duddleston said he had experience, coming from another planning board. . .Mrs . Demas said you don' t see that as a conflict? Mrs'. Duddleston said No . Mrs . Demas continued along the same line of questioning regarding Mr . Perkins qualifications. Expressed her concerns with paid, elected officials putting people on boards when she feels there is a conflict of interest . Requested copies of letters that all candidates submitted. '.t • .. ..: . . . - ., a . . ., . ... .. . ,. .,. . , .. . ': ' � . . Town of Ulysses Regular Board Meeting 5/14/91 Mr . Reitz reiterated Mrs . Duddleston 's comments . Ulysses 's Planning Board is dealing with several PUD' s in other areas of the Town rather than just one project alone. Mr . Gunn said that much of the attention of the community is focused on that one project . I was a candidate for the Planning Board and didn ' t expect to be chosen because I am a vocal opponent of the project . By the same token, Jerry Perkins has always been a vocal proponent of the project . . . and would think 4 that the same logic would apply . Given the sensitivity of the project I would think Mr . Perkins and I would have been the last ones considered for the Planning Board . • David Auble stated that he felt that these people were totally off-base with their accusations , totally fabricated and totally out of place . From my observations Jerry Perkins has been totally neutral on these Boards ; has the interest of the community in mind. . . in my observation, with some of you folks , hasn ' t been the case . Mr . Hogan called for order and stated that if these folks wanted to debate the Auble project , should choose another forum. Asked if there were other comments about Mr . Perkins ' appointment . Mrs . Demas asked if Mr . Perkins applied on his own or was asked. No one on the Board had any knowledge of Mr . Perkins being asked to apply for the position. ;t Mr. Hogan asked if there were other delegations or individuals to be heard . Don Christian said he had a proposal to purchase four acres from Jim Scott to use as a building site for handcrafted log homes . Have logs delivered, build the homes and they are purchased and removed to other areas . Not a high volume project . . . about four or five a year . Understands that he has to have zoning changed from residential/agricultural to a PUD. Presented pictures , map, etc. to the Board. Mr . Rachun has indicated that the proposal is ;• complete, and is now asking for approval . Mr. Hogan accepted the proposal . . .Mr. Rachun said only thing missing is a survey map because of the contingency on the property. Clear cut amount of land that will be abstracted out . Set back is designated. Part one of SEQR has been done . No structures except for the home being built , which will be removed upon. completion. Access is from Park Road. Will employ three to four people. No electricity , will use generators . Jim Spear, Taughannock Blvd. addressed the Board. Stated he was present to hear Mr . Reitz ' s proposal because he lives on RT 89 and is concerned about truck traffic when construction on the K'P 96 bridges is taking place . Will be increased traffic on any roads when the detour takes effect . Real issue on my mind are the people who are unfamiliar to the area and trucks being the major concern. . . if there are going to be that many heavy trucks don' t think Jacksonville Road would be acceptable either . . . other • alternative is to use other major roads . Mr . Hogan said this has been discussed to some degree. Our highway superintendent , Jim Meeker is concerned about heavy trucks on back roads and ruining them and the Town having a big repair bill . Trying to have those heavy trucks routed onto a State highway that can handle that type of traffic . Asked if we had made a recommendation to DOT? Mr . Meeker said not yet . Mr . Reitz said that is what his resolution deals with. Mr. Spear read a letter from Ted Sheeny who opposes using RT 89 as a detour . OLD BUSINESS 1 I Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Meeting 5/14/91 Spruce Row Campsite Mr . Reitz indicated that he had submitted a memo to the Town r1 ' Board stating that the map maker had difficulties getting the initial maps . Had 1988 maps from the County fly-over , and then . H get a zoned aerial fly-over of the specific location . RT 96 Lighting Mr . Meeker said he hadn' t heard from DOT, other than they don' t feel lighting will help . They do have a new man. . . State DOT is out of Cortland now . . .he came and looked the situation over and said he would review correspondence . . . thought possibly there might be a chance of putting turn lanes in that area. Mr . Hogan . offered to write a letter to Mr . Richard Bachelor, Cortland DOT. Water Study Mr . Hogan stated he had talked with Jim Seafuse and he will try to get together with Jeanne Henderson and Gail Zabasky . A woman who lives in Jacksonville just had surgery for a brain tumor and she knows two other people in that area who had brain • cancer. . . she is very concerned about the water situation and wondered what happened with the water survey. Mrs . Stover said that the Master Plan Committee was to receive a report from the - Water Committee at their meeting tomorrow night. Auble Annexation ••� Both the joint Village and Town Planning Boards met April 13th C and are preparing their statements for the May 16th Joint Town/Village Meeting . Mr . Reitz said we need to recognize, that depending upon what the Planning Boards recommend, where do we go from here? Will we discuss further this intermunicipal agreement concept . . . think at some point need to get a sense from the . ' Trustees what they are willing to consider . Mr. Hogan said they don' t have all their zoning ordinances in place yet and won ' t until September, that certainly is a consideration. Mr. Reitz wondered if the Village has been so delayed with their zoning regulations that part of this consideration will be the PUD section of the zoning regulations , perhaps we should ask them to give attention to that regulation instead of an overall regulation acceptance before they do anything. Mr. Rachun said "' they [Village] seem to be incorporating their new zoning ordinance article by article; think their agenda is to deal with the PUD rather than get the whole zoning in place . . Mr. Reitz suggested the Town Board explore the intermunicipal agreement concept . . . already have intermunicipal agreements at present, for example Alpha House water . . NEW BUSINESS • Taughannock Garden Club Mr . Hogan said there was a request by the Garden Club to do 1 plantings by the welcome signs located at Smith Woods . Mrs . Georgia said that the Garden Club had received permission to . plant flowers by the other two welcome signs . . .Mrs . Duddleston stated that the welcome sign by Smith Woods is on Duddleston property and they should be contacted. Mrs . Georgia will notify • the Garden Club to contact Duddleston regarding this request . Mr . Reitz said he has a resolution regarding RT 96 and moved the following for the Board' s consideration : . .Y i•, .. fn. ..y Cd.1y 1 >' .1.i . �. r• ``i. : � n' S ...'•�( ..j'•}: . . 1'� ,i' 1�, F�, �..� .. { ` . • 0 10 Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Board Meeting 5/14/91 WHEREAS , the New York State Dept . of Transportation (DOT) has • • submitted a proposal to replace the Route 96 Bridges over Taughannock Creek and Jenny Creek in the Town of Ulysses and WHEREAS, each bridge in the proposal is in a serious deteriorating condition and does need replacement , and WHEREAS, each bridge has Alternative proposals , and WHEREAS, the DOT has in their proposal outlines Detour routes • with alternatives to avoid the construction area, and WHEREAS , the primary detour route suggested by DOT would bypass some of our businesses in the town creating economic difficulty and force all traffic through our residential areas , and THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, the Ulysses Town Board supports the following recommendations : • 1 . For the bridge over Taughannock Creek, Alternative #2 be selected as this will improve the overall road conditions for a longer period of time . 2 . If Alternative #2 is selected for the Taughannock Creek bridge replacement , the detour route with alternative #1 (Route • 96, Park Rd . , Jacksonville Rd. ) be selected as long as possible with consideration of the construction activity on site . • 3 . For the bridge over Jenny Creek, Alternative #2 be selected and where possible take extra considerations to preserve the trees and plants especially North and East of the Agar Rd. 4 . Install a traffic controlled signal light at the Route 96 and Jacksonville Rd. intersection. 5 . All northbound Route 96 large truck traffic `.•e diverted to Route 89 at the "Octopus" bridge and suggest through traffic reentry to Route 96 north of the Village of Trumansburg and vice - versa for southbound traffic. 6 . The roads used for the detour be restored to before construction conditions or better, after the project is complete. • 7 . Establish a uniform Speed limit ( 40MPH) and assist in the speed limit enforcement on the detour route. 8 . Minimize all possible damage to the bed of Taughannock Creek since both upstream and downstream are popular swimming and fishing areas . 9 . Allow sign-boards posted at the detour warnings advising of businesses on Route 96 between Jacksonville Rd. and Cemetery Rd. The Board discussed items #1-#9 . Mrs . Boissonnas asked why some of the detoured traffic couldn' t be routed down Cold Springs Road. After continued discussion, changes were made and no second was offered on the original resolution. Mr. Weatherby moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston the amended resolution as follows : WHEREAS, the New York State Dept . of Transportation (D.O.T) has submitted a proposal to replace the Route 96 Bridges over • • Taughannock Creek and Jenny Creek in the Town of Ulysses and WHEREAS, each bridge in the proposal is in a serious deteriorating condition and does need replacement , and WHEREAS, each bridge has Alternative proposals , and WHEREAS, the primary detour route suggested by D.O.T. would • bypass some of our businesses in the town creating economic difficulty and force all traffic through our residential areas , THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, the Ulysses Town Board supports the following recommendations ; 1 . For the bridge over Taughannock Creek, Alternative #1 be selected. . 2 . If Alternative #2 is selected for Taughannock Creek bridge replacement , the detour route with Alternative #1 (Route 96, Taughannock Park Rd. , Jacksonville Rd. ) be selected as long as possible with consideration of the construction activity on site . 3 . For the bridge over Jenny Creek, Alternative #1 be selected and where possible take extra consideration to preserve the trees 9111 Town of Ulysses 5 . Regular Board Meeting 5/14/ 91. and plants especially North and East of the Agar Rd. .. 4 . Install a traffic controlled signal light at the Route 96 and Jacksonville Rd . intersection . 5 . All northbound Route 96 large truck traffic be diverted to Route 89 at the "Octopus" bridge and suggest through traffic reentry to Route 96 north of the Village of Trumansburg at • Cayuga St . , Interlaken, NY and vice verse for southbound traffic. .L•'; . 6 . The roads used for the detour be restored to before construction conditions or better , after the project is complete . 7 . Establish a uniform Speed limit ( 40MPH) and assist in the speed limit enforcement on the detour route. 8 . Minimize all possible damage to the bed of Taughannock Creek since both upstream & downstream are popular swimming and fishing areas , 9. Allow sign-boards posted at the detour warnings advising of businesses on Route 96 and between Jacksonville Rd. and Cemetery Rd. •; Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Nay Mrs . Stover Aye • Mrs . Duddleston Aye • Mr. Weatherby Aye • Adopted. Copies to be sent to Harry Carlson, Regional Director NYS DOT, Syracuse . REPORTS • "z Town Clerk Mrs . Georgia, Town Clerk, reported that total fees collected for the month of April were $2, 337 . 52 of which $1, 513 . 02 was turned over to the Supervisor. . Williamson Law has installed the new Town Clerk' s package. Has put in an order to NYS Ag & Markets for the dog listings . Highway • • Mr . Meeker, Highway Superintendent , reported that they had • • cleaned up the Glenwood Bridge project, cleaned ditch on Cold Springs Rd. and installed pipe there and on Iradell . Patched ' roads, cleaned trucks , cleaned salt boxes . New loader arrived, • old loader has been cleaned and taken to Palmyra for auction. OSHA projects have been taken care of [plastic shields , ground '• • • wire on refrigerator . . . ] . Going to look at a salt shed. . .same company that made pipe for bridge project . State bid prices for salt aren' t out yet . Mr. Meeker requested an Executive Session to discuss a personnel • matter. Having already moved for an Executive Session, this matter will be added to that agenda. • Zoning/Building • I Mr . Rachun reported seven permits, two new starts . . . $135, 000 . reflecting modulars and double wides going in. Four additions and remodeling at $65 ,700 . and two swimming pools at $10 , 000 . Total fees received $574 . . • The ZBA heard three appeals , two were approved on area variances on lake parcels and the third wasn' t denied, but not approved. . . they asked the developer to come back. Planning Board is currently hearing two PUD's [Pleasant Grove Assoc . , Moores Outboard Sales & Service] . _ . . • • .,t Town of Ulysses 90 6 Regular Board Meeting 5/14/91 Mr . Rachun reported that the Fire Inspector did one chimney permit Board Members • Mr . Reitz stated that a Joint Youth Meeting will be May 15th . Working hard on needs assessment . The Village has decreased one of their line items by $2 , 835 . which will crimp the Village allocation to this group . Will be looking at the impact of that . • Mr . Reitz said the only other comment he has is that presently the Town has three or four PUD' s in the works . . .where does it fit into the overall Master Plan of the Town? Mrs . Stover mentioned that the Recycling Coordinator would like to put together a list of plastics for a handout . Was wondering if she puts together a list if the Board would be willing to type and duplicate? Mr . Hogan suggested putting together a list and sending it to the County . . . they are paying the salary . Decided • to send the County a copy and state that we are using this until we get one from them. Mr . Hogan said that he got Steve Moracco to do the ceilings . All ceilings , except for the back hallway, have been replace with new tiles. Work has been completed except for painting the back hallway . Need to think about ventilating the building. . . there is ' 4 an old vent . . .would cool building down and take care of moisture • problem. Also have checked with Keith Mueller who will check to see if the bathrooms have been vented. CORRESPONDENCE Mr . Hogan received the following correspondence: NYS Environmental Conservation; County Planning Board Agenda; Association of Towns . • Mr . Hogan entertained to adjourn to executive session, Mr. Reitz • • moved to do so at 10 : 30pm. EXECUTIVE SESSION • Highway Superintendent, James Meeker requested that his newest man David Reynolds hourly rate be increased to $10 . 49 to put him in line with the other workers . David has been with the Town for 2 1/2 years . • Mrs . Duddleston moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz to increase David Reynolds hourly rate by $. 54 to bring him up to $10 . 49 per hour . • Mr . Hogan aye • Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye • Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted Mrs . Stover pointed out to the Board that she was not appointed in January to be the local representative to the Assessment Review and that they were meeting on May 16, 1991 . If the Board would like her to do this she would be happy to. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston to appoint Catherine Stover as the Town of Ulysses representative to the "Local Assessment Review Board" . Mr . Hogan aye • Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Board Meeting 5/14/91 Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover abstained Mrs . Duddleston aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted The Board discussed the voucher presented by Roger Rector for the reimbursement of his health insurance on the advise of Jeanne Vanderbuilt , Town Bookkeeper/Payroll Clerk. Mr . Hogan will speak to Jeanne Vanderbuilt , Bookkeeper and Judge Rector and the Board will discuss this prior to the Joint Meeting on Thursday May 16th, 1991 . Hearing no further discussion Mrs . Duddleston moved for adjournment, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned 10 : 45p.m. vr7 :A. TOWN OF ULYSSES/VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG JOINT MEETING May 16, 1991 Present : Tom Bennett , Mayor; Carl Zylich, William Oriswald, Peter Meskill , Village Trustees; William Hogan, Town Supervisor; Tom Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Ulysses Town Board; Paula Mount , Deputy Town Clerk. Others Present : Alex Rachun, Bill Auble, Gary Chase, Jackie Merwin, Seville Reulein, Beach & Budd Stover, Ruth & Andy Scott, John Czamanske, John O'Leary, Jerry Perkins , David Auble, Don Ellis , Geri Keil , Kim Jacobs, • Gilbert & Myrtle Lee, Alan Vogel , Lou Poley, Steve Proctor [FreePress] , Guy Krough, Ozzie Heila, Antonia Demas , Christopher Gunn, Rob Schofele, and other unidentified. Mr. Hogan and Mr. Bennett called the meeting to order at 7 : 30PM. Mr. Bennett asked for input from the Town and Village Planning Boards . Geri Keil representing the Town of Ulysses [Mr. Tyler unable to attend] was asked by Mr. Hogan to bring those present up-to-date on number of meetings , discussion and resolution of those meetings . . • Mrs . Keil stated she didn' t have a formal presentation; we discussed these questions presented to us at one Town Planning Board meeting and then had a Joint Town/Village Planning Board meeting. . .we have come to several conclusions on our own. . .pretty • much what we were feeling was that we really couldn' t answer the questions . . . Mr. Hogan stated that the Town Board came up with four areas : should the land be developed; what percentage of the land should be residential vs commercial ; should the land be annexed or not annexed; should an intermunicipal agreement be considered and what should be included in that agreement . Mrs . Keil said that the Town Planning Board felt that they couldn' t speak for the Village Planning Board and the only way to . • address these questions was to meet together and discuss them. We came up with these answers: 1 . Should the land be developed. . . it was the general consensus that eventually it is going to be developed, the question was how and when. One of the feelings about the area is that it is a growing area of Trumansburg, an attractive area, and people are going to want to move into the area, developers are . going to want to develope this area and this is something that is coming. _. 2 . Percentage of residential vs commercial . . .was a consensus that percentages could not be set at this time, without more input from the public. That input is key before any final • decisions could be made. Residential development would be the • preferred development in that area; a small area of the parcel that the Village felt should be commercial . Others felt that until we had more significant or concrete input as to what that commercial development -was , and it was appropriate to the site, that what would be designated as commercial and how much of it, , couldn' t be determined at this time. - • 3 . As to annexation or not . . .what we determined is that if that land is to be developed it would make the most sense for it • to be in one place or another; in other words should either be all in the Village or all in the Town. We aren' t saying it should be annexed, just that it should all be in one place or the other . Lot of variables about who should annex it or if it should be annexed. Other people who have better information, and - ion Joint Town/Village Meeting 2 May 16 , 1991 • we couldn ' t speak to those particular issues . . .such as water and sewer . Mr. Hogan said then the answer is that the land should be • annexed, correct? Mrs . Keil said we discussed that it should be under one municipality or the other. Mr. Hogan said, you didn' t indicate which one? Mrs . Keil said maybe others did, but • personally didn' t recall . 4 . Should there be an intermunicipal agreement . . . the • Planning Boards are throwing this back into the Boards laps . . . feel you know whether or not you can have this type of agreement and if it would work. Some have said that is a very difficult way to do it . Mr . Reitz asked if there was any consideration to an intermunicipal agreement prior to annexation? Mrs . Keil said if • the zoning wasn' t changed, there is no reason why it couldn' t be developed residential right now, as it stands . Mr. Reitz said an intermunicipal agreement would deal with water, sewer, roads , etc . Mrs . Keil said then you would have to determine if you have • the facilities to provide that . . .we can' t determine that . Mrs . Keil said the Town has other areas that are presently zoned commercial and are not in the Village. . . doesn' t make sense to designate another area commercial on some tentative, nebulous future plan to develop it . If there is to be development perhaps it should take place in the current commercial district . The other feeling most of us had was that more input from the Master Plan Committees [Village & Town] , and more coordination of those committees , so that maybe they could look at the Village and the Town as one growing community and where does it make sense to have a commercial zone. Rather than take this one particular piece of land, just because it is before us , and designate some of it commercial and some as residential . Mr . Reitz said this is the only potential commercial zoned area ,. continuous to the Village boundary. Mrs . Keil said we don ' t know if that is really desirable . Mr . Reitz asked if the developer • • had an opportunity to present the proposal to the Planning • Boards . Mrs . Keil said Yes , but the proposal is not very clear . • The developer is asking for a higher percentage of commercial than most of the Planning Boards felt was warranted. Mr . Reulein [Ulysses Planning Board member] stated that he disagreed with that statement . We didn' t make a decision on that . That is Mrs . Keil ' s personal opinion. • Mr. Ellis , Village Planning Board, said that he didn' t feel there was anything near a consensus , but good discussion. Having the two Boards meet was a good thing and should probably happen more • often. On the four questions : • 1 . Should the land be developed. . . should or not is a vague question; eventually it will get developed. . . should or not is vague . . . of course that land will change. 2 . Percentage of residential vs commercial . . . think the Village Planning Board is in a good position to make a clear statement because we have in fact considered all the land that is involved in this annexation in our master plan process , which has " just about been completed. In our Master Plan, we came to the conclusion that that whole region should be primarily residential . In order for it to be residential there would have to be a series of streets that don ' t exist at this time. One of those streets would logically connect to Main Street somewhere along the area where the Auble parcel connects to Main Street . So if we have this connector street coming up to Main Street that • creates an intersection on a State highway which is a very logical place to have some commercial development , and we have come to the conclusion that a three to four acre parcel at that • - : . _ - . :::::.L: ;•�..: ":�.i•'tJ',_L...rVe. ._, 'J •tai. nt ;�. 1. tf:' .•jt�: +' .. .. .t. .�' • . - ' ' it q n Joint Town/Village Meeting 3 May 16 , 1991 point , as a commercially developed area made a lot of sense and was a good place for it . The area will become busier and busier •• and wouldn' t make sense to have the residential area out to the street . Don' t have a precise answer, because haven' t had the time to work it out , but it clearly goes heavily towards something under 10% commercial . • Mr . Perkins [Village b Town Planning] stated that he didn' t remember a vote being taken on that percentage . 3 . Should the land be annexed or not . . .don' t feel there was :. a consensus or useful discussion of the subject until someone • said, get public input . Village Planning Board members did say, regarding that , Village is not prepared for annexation at this time. • 4 . Intermunicipal agreement . . . an agreement implies some sort of give and take, some kind of sharing . Obviously the Village has water and sewer to give. Not sure what the agreement would be about . . .what could be worked out with the Town. Didn' t really know where to go with this question. Intermunicipal agreements , in my opinion, would be an excellent thing to do. Mr. Meskill asked, regarding whether the land should be annexed or not , specifically by that , do you mean once the Village has finished their . zoning and its Master Plan, then that type of item should be considered? .Mr. Ellis said the position of the Planning Board in developing a Master Plan has been that the Village needs to improve. its tax base and that one way of doing that is to encourage development of . the land. . The amount of land available in the Village is a small amount and a. lot of it is A ' tied up in such a way that it wouldn' t be available to develope. If growth is the preferred route, development of land is preferred, then . annexation is probably the. only way to go. Mr. Meskill said you indicated that the Village isn' t ready. . . is it because of the fact that the Master Plan isn' t completed and the zoning isn' t completed? Mr. Ellis said that is exactly it . The • Master Planning process is a very deliberate one, that provides a good forum for the public to be involved. Lots of talk about what should and shouldn' t take. place, most of which is vague and not useful to municipal boards . Think what. happens is when we • present the proposed Master Plan, at least we will have a place to focus. then, so there can be . useful , directed discussion about what the citizens of- the.Village and Town consider high. priorities and alternatives for us . . { Mr. Hogan said the Village's Master Plan Committee has included • this acreage in their study; and mostly to use as residential and a few acres for commercial? Mr. Ellis said yes , the . plan shows an undefined ' red dot ' at where an intersection is almost certain, that is labeled commercial . We have not gone so far as to say how many acres that should be; my reading of that is that dot is less than ten acres . We have talked about the kind of commercial we thought would be successful there and the kind we talked about is what we are calling 'destination shopping ' , the kind of place that attracts people not just from the Village but from the region. . .good . examples here in Trumansburg. is Frontenac Designs , not really servicing, the community as much as they are servicing a region, . so those kinds of businesses , and community services as well could locate there; definitely not something on • the scale of a grocery store or, something of that type. Mr . Hogan asked why not a grocery store? Mr. Ellis said the opinion was there is so much paving, so much traffic, would cause other problems that it ' s an inappropriate use in an area that is clearly residential . Mr. Perkins said that he would like to give his personal opinions regarding these four questions : • S i' Joint Town/Village Meeting 4 May 16, 1991 1 . Should land be developed. . . yes . 2 . What percentage of residential vs commercial . . . 50% . 3 , Should land be annexed. . . yes . The Town cf Ulysses wants • water , let them run it ; good area for light , small industry, a grocery store, some housing . Regarding the other commercial areas between Trumansburg and Ithaca, they won ' t be developed because of lack of water and sewer . No reason to be against development if done with control and in a proper manner . Am in favor of development , if it is done right . Mrs . Demas started questioning Mr . Perkins about his interests in the development and holding seats on both Planning Boards . Mr . + Perkins reiterated his position [as he has done on several '!t occasions at various meetings] . Mr . Gunn asked both boards to consider and perhaps give an answer at a future meeting as to why this individual [Mr . Perkins] is on both Planning Boards, is it legal , is it a wise choice to have one person serving on two boards? Think one or both of you have made an error in judgment and you should think about how you will resolve it . Don' t think any individual should be serving on two boards . • Mr . Scott said a couple of folks had done a survey of the Village for the Master Plan Committee, which showed there had not been any development, but an actual decline in the Village . Feel development should be in or around the Village rather than down a corridor on RT 96 . In favor of development in the Village or on either side of the Village . Kim Jacobs asked if any research of the need of residential and commercial had been done; how seriously have you considered the option of a water and sewer district , Does present a benefit to the Village, as a higher rate can be charged. Mr . Hogan said that if a developer is going to invest his money he will have done the research to see if there is a market for • his development . . . if there is a market for some commercial development , senior housing, some residential development . Many of us feel that type of development is a better deal for the area - rather than a lot of residential . . . with a large residential development it will overload the school system. Small commercial district, housing for seniors , you have the benefit of additional • tax base without overloading the school district . Regarding a water and sewer district , we have said to the Village that we • [Town] would be willing to negotiate with them for a water and sewer district . They could charge a rate and a half which would help them financially . Certainly willing to consider it . As far • as the unofficial cost to the Village, the developer would be providing the facilities , the infrastructure, within the development . Mr . Ellis agreed with the response, all residential would not be the ideal . Residential doesn' t do much for the tax base, but it 's not going to do what we want to see done to the tax • base. . . it 's the second generation that counts . . . if a lot of • houses are built a lot of people will live here, they will need services . If we can get it together that those services are provided in this community rather than another community, then in that second generation of activity, the commercial development, we get sales tax . Sales tax really counts for something. Discussion took place regarding the percentages of sales tax that is returned to the Village and Town. - Mr . Bennett asked how people would feel about having a vote on • one proposition. . . to annex or not to annex. . . only hearing from a Joint Town/Village Meeting 5 May 16 , 1991 small number of people. y Ms . Merwin stated that the meeting held at the high school . . .many people spoke against . Would be in favor of having a public vote if worded correctly. Mrs . Demas questioned the amount of money being spent on the meetings , public hearings , etc . regarding this project . Mr . Ellis said he feels that the Village should be aggressively • developing a program to encourage the kind of development they want . . . discover what kind of development that is . Then should have several development proposals each year coming in here . Should be handled through the mechanism that is set up to do it, . -. '. the precedent of going public over these could drive us all mad and may not get us the results at all . • F Mr. Meskill said he has a problem with presenting a proposition for vote. . .have a planning board for the purpose of working with planning and master planning for the Village and secondly the ultimate annexation question rests on the Board after input from the planning board and a public hearing. Mr. Bennett stated that this has been dragging on for years . Mr. Vogel said it seems that the developers have been told no . repeatedly and still persist . . . their right to do so, but how many times do we need to say no? Perhaps if they are persistent a no . may be turned into a yes. Ms . Jacobs supports having a referendum. Development is inevitable. The question is to what degree. Mr. Bennett said he would feel more comfortable having the public input from a vote. Mr. Gunn stated that he has no strong feelings against a referendum, can be used effectively at time . Don' t want to count • the number of meetings that will be needed to figure out the wording of this referendum! What I am more concerned about at the moment is to hear the Mayor trivialize the governments process of the Village and the Town. There is a mechanism by which these issues get aired, there is a planning process both in terms of immediate and long range plans in both the Village and the Town. To sit there and say we keep disputing this , can' t seem to reach an agreement , when both your planning boards, I think, have come to a fairly closely agreement on this issue, means that the work they have done is trashed and the incentive - you provide for other citizens to take part in the governments • process, all goes up in smoke. Mr . Griswald said he agrees with Mr. Gunn, but has not heard a consensus tonight , about anything . Mr. Hogan said some of the answers are pretty vague. . .Mr . Gunn said some of the questions were pretty vague. Mr. Perkins said he thought the annexation issue was dead at this point . Mr . Reitz said it is until it is only until the annexation issue comes up again by the petitioners to go through rn the process again. Mrs . Keil said the problem, as she sees it, is not only did these questions seem vague to the planning board, but the proposal before us is also very vague. We don' t really know what is going -• to go on up there . Don' t necessarily need more commercial , have • commercial already . Mr. Reulein said that is Mrs . Keil ' s . personal opinion, not that of the planning board. Mr. Hogan asked if the developer had met with the planning board and explained what they want to do . Mrs . Keil said yes , but he had Ili •.'.cl' «: u1y�l . i I r . l .a ..«.✓s•.• 9 .4 i' ,,.1 is .:. •.5! �. ., , .t. S:. •5..., rr 'i • "p Joint Town/Village Meeting 6 May 16, 1991 explained it once before and it was entirely different . That ' s • the developers option, but in terms of the planning board, if we • would identify needs in the community and then look at where these needs can be met , and then say what could be commercial and what residential , might make more sense . Mr . David Auble stated that Mrs . Keil keeps mentioning the • vagueness , I first of all don' t feel that I was given much opportunity to present our ideas , and got very little impact or feed-back from any of the planning boards . Realize it is difficult of a development of this type to be brought to a planning board and expect a major amount of feed-back . Have seen several other proposals that have been to the planning board and must say, unless they are a specific business , it ' s a fairly loose process . One proposal for four commercial retail buildings on RT 96 [Pleasant Grove Assoc . ] , thought that was fairly vague; • relatively speaking it wasn' t different from our proposal . Mrs . • • Keil said the scope of it is different . Mr . Auble said the • activities are vague . Don' t think some of the concerns expressed • are such that they should negate our going through the process, by right , and what we conceive to be a need in the community, and I think we need to prove . Mr . Rachun said Pleasant Grove Assoc . is a Development District and is quite specific . Do know what this gentleman wants to do • there, also know what he will not do [had to list that] . There is very accurate site plan, plantings, entrance and exit . . . everything is going to be complete when this thing is approved. The process is, the developer meets with me, goes through the whole process with the developer . . . once the developer • • realizes what he has to do to come to the Town Board and present what he wants to do. The Supervisor takes the information; if ` information is complete it is then turned over to the planning board. After everything is done by the planning board that is necessary, we come back into the Town and make sure that everything fits our zoning. Have a broad outline on Development Districts , what can and cannot be done. When this is wrapped up it is sent to the Town Board with the planning board' s recommendations to approve, disapprove, or approve with • • modifications . Mr. Auble could come to me tomorrow with all this information and do the same thing. • Mrs . Poley spoke to the fact that the Village Planning Board has been working over the past several years on various Land Use and Development Codes and things keep getting stalled. Regarding Mr . William Auble' s request to annex . . . if it is annexed with certain • commercial zoning they can walk out of there tomorrow, have made their money, and someone else can come in and do something different . They have showed us many drawings , but there isn' t any commitment that they are going to do anything as they say . Would like to see Land Use and Development Codes , Master Plan, etc . all in place; then say what do we need or want up there, then entertain proposals for development . Mrs . Poley went on to say that the planning board has had to listen to him [David Auble] when he's had no right to speak, have had him be rude to us , make fun of us , twist our words , tape our meetings without permission. . . that gets people' s backs up . • Mr. Meskill said we are getting away from what the Boards originally wanted or hoped we were going to get . . . think putting the Master Plan together will tell you what you want up there. Think we need to get that as soon as we can . • Mr . Hogan asked if the Master Plan will tell you specifically what you are going to put in specific areas? Mr . Meskill said doesn' t think you can do that . . . think you have to decide, like Don said, a connector road with three or four acres; now if its three or four or ten acres, that ' s what your Master Plan process • . 1 Joint Town/Village Meeting 7 May 16 , 1991 will give you, approximately how many acres or percentage of that land will be commercial and how much residential . To determine what will be in there, No . You can list light industrial , commercial , etc . , but beyond that , don' t think you can tell someone he can put in a drug store but not a grocery . Mr. Ellis said it is really a negotiating process . Mr . William Auble said what is going on now is a good illustration of what is happening. Someone said there are • commercial zones that aren' t being used and that ' s what : ' happened . . , thirty years ago these zones were decided. . . someone built a shop, couldn' t sell the land so started building houses in a commercial zone . Then people in those houses start complaining ! If there had been some pre-planning over the years the zones would be established now. Could probably come in here ten years from now to do something and find out the zoning is 3. wrong; and the same thing happens as is happening now. Why haven' t these things been done? The people sitting and making the zones and determining what is going to happen. . . you can' t look around and see them sitting here tonight . . .can' t find their names in the phone book. . . they have left and I 'm still here paying taxes . Discussion between Mr . Auble and Mr . Vogel took place regarding the types of stores in an area. Mr. Vogel felt need to know exactly what would be there, that the zoning wouldn' t be changed . and Mr. Auble would sell his land and make money on it . . .Mr . Auble said you can say you will have certain types but in a year those may move on and new ones fill the storefronts . Mr. Auble said he would be happy to sign a statement saying he would be happy to give Mr. Vogel the same guarantee [that Mr . Vogel will give Mr. Auble] ; that he [Mr . Auble] will be here in ten years . Just want everyone else to sign it that they won' t , sell their houses and make any money, you don' t want me to make any money, then you shouldn' t make money . I ' ll sign a statement • a.. that I ' ll develope that land and will be here ten years from now and I want you to be here ten years from now. ,, Mr. Reulein stated that if the water situation was different perhaps expansion would be in a different pattern. Would like to see an extensive water district that is connected with Ithaca and _ Trumansburg . More homes will be built , commercial areas will be built . 4 John Czamanske [Ulysses Master Plan Committee] spoke about Jeanne - Henderson' s presentation of the water survey done two years ago. Two-thirds of the people responding to the survey indicated they would be interested in public water . Cost of putting in public water might be prohibitive. Further short discussion ensued regarding the cost of water and . water districts in general . r Mr . Hogan read Mr . Tyler 's letter which reiterated Mrs . Keil 's •_ report of the joint meeting of the planning boards . This was a consensus of the two boards . Mr. Meskill said the two boards have agreed to annexation but not at this time, and with more rn planning? Mrs . Keil said either the land should all be annexed into the Village or all into the Town. Also, not sure as to the percentage of residential vs commercial . - Mr. Meskill asked Mr . Scott how close his committee was to having the Master Plan ready . Mr . Scott said would be finished in about thirty days . Mr. Vogal asked why it would be bad to have all residential and Mr . Bennett said it would impact on the schools . Mr . Griswald said if you put that many homes in the Village you will need more stores . Joint Town/Village Meeting 8 May 16 , 1991 Attorney Krough stated that when you start getting that specific about telling someone how to use that land you are violating the Constitution. If you are going to go that far and tell people how to use the land to that extent , you might as well purchase it . There is no way to guarantee who will have a store and sell what prior to building . . . putting the cart before the horse . If you are going to limit it that much you are actually going beyond zoning . Regarding comments heard tonight . . . what about vacant buildings downtown . . .noone is renting them because they are old, not useful . Most important thing said tonight is that there hasn' t been significant development since 1908 when there were 121 businesses in town. • Mr . Gunn said the gentleman who just spoke outlined perfectly why we need planning and building in place . Once in place a developer responds to it . Without those regulations in place anything can happen. The idea of 121 stores in Trumansburg . . . the world has changed. . . try having an independent drug store competing against Fays . What you have in mind here is the process of taking of putting a new commercial pole on the north end of town so you draw traffic up there effectively diminishing the now shaky viability of downtown, which everyone recognizes . You think there will be shoe stores , and everything we all like to do. . . .we are a Village with a limited population. You aren' t getting a Pyramid Mall and if you do get some of that stuff you will kill off what is already here. Mr. William Auble said ten years ago, talked, had a hearing and • here we are again. . .noone has done anything new. . .heard this the first time and the second time and now hearing the very same thing. . . "our stuff isn' t in order". How many years does it take to get your stuff in order? Mr . Meskill suggested reconvening in thirty days . By then the Village's Master Plan will be ready to be presented, which will include the area being discussed. Mr . Hogan said the big question is the percentage of residential vs commercial . Perhaps public input would be the best thing to have. Mr. Griswald suggested having a public hearing in mid-July. The Village decided to have a public hearing to have public input on the Village's proposed Master Plan on July 18th at 7 : 30pm. The next Joint Town/Village Meeting will be held at Village Hall on Wednesday, July 24th. A motion was made to adjourn the meeting„ seconded by Mr. Griswald. Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 9 : 30pm. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount Ulysses Deputy Clerk I r Igoe TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING • June 11, 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; James Meeker, Highway Superintendent; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present: Elsie Vann, Winnie Baker, James Mason, Mr. Collins, NYSEO, Ruth Kahn, Olen Chase, Carl Mann, Peter Meskill , Steve Proctor, Mrs. Crass, David Auble, George Patte, Harry Weber, Lou Poley, Alex Rachun, Government Class students. Mr. Hogan, Supervisor, called the meeting of the Town Board, Town of Ulysses to order at 8:00 PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of 5/14/91 and the Joint Village/Town Meeting of 5/16/91, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. Unanimously approved. Report: Trumansbura Fire Department Absent Report: Representative James Mason Mr. Mason reported that on May 28 a meeting was held in the City of Ithaca to discuss the State Open-Space Conservation Plan. . .brought about by an amendment to the Conservation Law last year. Intent is to preserve open space in the State by having the State, in many cases, acquire properties that have unique characteristics. There area couple areas of interest in the Town of Ulysses. . .they have identified all lands abutting Taughannock State Park as areas that should be considered for acquisition. Also identified abandoned railroad right-of-way that runs through Ulysses from Taughannock to Buttermilk State Park. If there are any concerns or questions would suggest you contact either Jim Hansen or Stewart Stein. The County is broke. . .have tried for years to maintain a general fund reserve and up until just recently had about three million dollars set aside as a buffer. . .that money is gone. The State has not made payments to various agencies; departments that depend on State payments, and ao the County has done payrolls and tried to keep things operating. Don't know what the impact of the State budget is going to be on the County at this time. Obviously the reserve fund will be replenished when the State dollars arrive, but have lost interest. TC3 has been hit hard by the State budget . Also moving ahead with the landfill project. Still hope to keep the landfill open for a few months beyond the closing date set. Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #187-222 in the amount of $5,526.99, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved. Supervisor's Financial Report Distributed to the Board and reviewed by Mr. Hogan. • 1 It-f Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting June 11, 1991 Mr. Reitz commented that in March we had $81,000. in the highway reserve fund, saved over years, and bought a new loader for $75,000 . Also sold the old loader for more than we thought we would and got $11,000 . Hearing of Deleaations and Individuals Mr. Dan Collins - NYSEG - spoke regarding the construction project at Milliken Station. Introduced Melanie Chappel , Environmental Licensing Specialist. Mr. Collins stated that the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 has caused many businesses and industries to take a hard look at what they will have to do to meet the requirements of these laws in the next few years. NYSEG is no exception. Started last August to take a look at what we will have to do to comply with the reduction of sulfur dioxide and hydrogenoxide from our flue gas at Milliken Station and other stations. Looked at 200 options, narrowed them to 20 and by end of summer will be down to 6. In looking at these laws an opportunity presented itself. . . the Federal Government has grant money through the Dept . of Energy for a demonstration grant of clean coal technology. . .and we want to take advantage of any monies we can bring in from the Federal Govt. which would lower the coat of this project. Mr. Collins continued that Milliken is our second most efficient power plant and also one of the most efficient in the US. Mr. Collins. explained the process of flue gases to deaulfurization. One of the by-products of this process is gypsum, which would be sold. The other by-product is calcium chloride. . .there is nothing left to landfill . Not only do we reduce sulfur dioxide by 90-95%, we have markets for the calcium chloride and gypsum. Biggest impact on this side of the lake will be the smokestack. . .the two that are there now are 250' each. . . they will be removed and replace with one stack of 375' . Showed pictures. The white plume will be more visible, but cleaner. • The total cost of the project is $158 million. We are asking DOE to fund about $65 million. During construction will be 200 construction jobs and after construction will be an additional 25 NYSEG jobs. OLD BUSINESS Spruce Row Campsite Mr. Hogan stated that the Town has been trying to have a map drawn of the Spruce Row Campsite. Mike O'Cello has been working on that map and will tell us what is included on the map. Mr. O'Cello said that hopefully the map has been completed. Showed map, which has campsite roads, and everything that is there. The scale is 1" to 100' . Mr. Hogan said the map includes all of the property owned by Mr. Weber and the portion of the property that is included in the PUD. Mr. Reitz stated that the new boundaries as proposed by the Town Planning Board are not included on this map. . .we were instructed to give us , the existing PUD density, location, to an accurate scale. Mr. Reitz asked how Mr. O'Cello came up with the means to make the map? Mr. O'Cello said it was done by several means; lot of it was done with aerial photography; some surveying of some roads; some of the property information came from a map by Mr. Schlepp. Also had the computer run the areas on the PUD and the non-PUD, just to see if it came out to what it should and it did. .i' 1 Town of Ulysses 3 ° Regular Town Board Meeting June 11 , 1991 • Mr . Hogan asked if Mr . O'Cello had the numbers as to how many acres were in the PUD and how many weren' t? Hr. O'Cello said approaching 40 acres being used. This is from the old •_ one. . .almost 84 acres for PUD. Hr, Reitz asked about density. . .approximately out of the 84 acres what did you estimate as the active use area now? Hr. O'Cello said when he calculated the area being used he was a bit generous and came up with almost • 40 acres that is being used. Mr. Patte asked for the total number of sites. . .Hr. O'Cello said 180+, the sites are numbered. Hr. Patte asked if the location of each site is shown on the map. . .Mr. O'Cello said the approximate location of each site; the sites are marked with numbers on trees, etc. , sure they were done for 'convenience. Mrs. Crass • . asked if Hr. O'Cello didn't see campsites numbered up to 210 as shown on one of the maps that has been used in the past meetings. Mr. O'Cello said the numbering did go up to 210. . . there are a number of numbering omissions, he basically counted the number of • ' sites. • Mr. Patte asked if there was any attempt made to approximate square footage for each site or the total of sites. Hr. O'Cello said that would be difficult, wouldn't know where to begin. The • sites are not each a rectangular shape. . .wouldn' t begin to know how to come up with an average per site; unless someone wnuld lay all that out. It would be very costly and I couldn't do it because of the licensing. - To give you an example: an average lot being surveyed would be from $200.-300. for a small' city lot. Here you are talking 182 lots times perhaps $200. -300. Mrs . Crass asked who's responsibility would it fall to make that kind of appraisal? Mr. Reitz said the responsibility of the map ,1 as an entire unit is the responsibility of the Town Board. We require in our Zoning Ordinance an accurate, to scale map. You are asking if whether there is the 1500 or 2500 square feet per site and think that term is a generalization by State regulations. If you took all 182 sites divided by 40 acres, he obviously has more square footage than is necessary for each • site. Mr. Patte asked what the round circles indicated and Mr. O'Cello said that is a conceptual area of- trees. .Mr. Patte asked if the water source and lighting shown? Mr. O'Cello indicated Willow ' Creek, the pool , pond, storage tanks, bathrooms, recreational ; lighting is not shown, nor is the dumping station. Mr. Rachun said that he feels this is a fine map of what exists - now and can be worked with in terms of zoning, down the line. Asked if Mr. - O'Cello is going to do an overlay of what is presented by the Planning Board in terms of the new, because when the request comes in for the amended development district, we will need that overlay. . .including the pond, the dumping station, the house. Mr. Reitz said that isn't included in the contract • with Mr. O'Cello to do that. .Mr. Patte stated that in December of 1989 . the Planning Board .asked•: for .23 separate items to be either shown or put in writing with respect to all aspects of the proposed PUD. Things like construction design, drains, ;.culverts, define number of campsites and location, landscaping plan. Mr. 1 Reitz said you are talking about the conceptual Site Plan Review which has never been passed by the Town Board. That is a tool • to be used by the Planning Board for information basis , only. No requirement that it be utilized. Mr. Patte said the resolution refers specifically to your Zoning Law, Article 4, Section 5, paragraph B. Mr. Hogan said what we are trying to do is resolve this matter to • Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting June 11, 1991 everyone's satisfaction. Didn't see the need to spend $15,000. for a map. We made an agreement with Mr. Weber to share the cost of the map and were able to get this completed for $1,000 . , half to paid by Mr. Weber and half by the Town. The Building/Zoning • Officer seems to feel it is adequate for SBQR and meet our needs. Mr. Rachun said he feels it is adequate to present to the involved agencies on the SBQR review. The Town Board is going to be acting lead agency on this project, this map is a map that can go. Mr. Reitz asked Mr. Weber if he had any comments on the map. Mr. Weber said he would like to look it over. Mr. O'Cello said there is the original and one copy and Mr. Reitz said he would get other copies made. Mr. Patte asked for a copy, and asked if he could clarify one thing procedurally. . .this was submitted for what purpose? How is it going to be used from here with respect !' to any changes in the PUD. . . I 'm unclear. Mr. Hogan said we were unclear as to how much of the original PUD was actually developed today, and how much was available for growth. After we have a chance to look this over and determine what density remains there, we are going to sit down again and try to come up with a maximum number of campsites and recommend what will be included in this PUD. Mr. Reitz indicated that it will have to go to County Planning Board and wondered if there would then have to be another public hearing; and then Board action. Mr. Patte said he is unclear as to what proposal is before the Board at this time. . . for approval or disapproval , or modification or whatever the Board choices to do, what is it you are being asked to do? Mr. Hogan said we were trying to agree on the volume of campsites that were going to be acceptable there and did not come up with any agreement; so we wanted an updated map; now we know what in there and discuss what is reasonable for the area. Mrs. Crass asked if the Town Planning Board will be involved in this procedure. Mr. Hogan said No, the Planning Board already gave their recommendation. • • Mr. Reitz said he recalls the Planning Board and some Town • residents being concerned about a few incidental items. We had basically agreed upon most items regarding the PUD. Mr. Patte said that originally Mr. Weber came to the Town with a proposal for certain things, and don't know if that has been withdrawn or not, and not sure if the Town Board on its own is saying, we are in fact choosing to review this PUD and redefining this PUD on our own, which you would have the right to do, and we are making new rules for this PUD, irrespective of whatever it started out as. Sounds like that is what you are really doing here, going back to the PUD, and would expect you to do things like the buffer zone and all those things the Planning Board already talked about . Mr. Reitz said and the Town Board agreed or disagreed upon, so therefore we are at a stage right now where we should review the last minutes of those changes that we made and show you where we are going to go from here. Mr. Patte said if that is the procedure, seems that there should be a public hearing. Mr. Weber stated that we shouldn' t lose sight of the fact that this is a reduction in the existing zoning density permitted. . .permitted zoning as it stands would allow over 2000 campsites . Whatever is decided will be a reduction in that number. Mr. Patte said he would take issue with that, don't think there has been approval for 2000 sites. Mr. Hogan said he feels the Board needs to sit down and study the map and come up with a reasonable density, discuss it with Mr. Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting June 11, 1991 Weber, and reach a decision. When that decision is reached, will have a public hearing. Mr. Reitz moved that the Town Board accept the map as produces by Mike O'Cello as an accurate scale map of the Spruce Row Campsite PUP, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. • Discussion ensued and was decided that all present , Mr. Weber, Mr. Patte and local residents, and the Town Board needed time to look over this map. Mr. Patte said if you are talking about expansion, that same kind of map ought to be produced for whatever expansion you are talking about , so it 's on paper. Mr. • Reitz said copies will be made available. Mr. Patte said he • isn' t talking about this map, but a map showing any proposed density that you are discussing, on paper, a new map showing the • -• outcome of what you are proposing, so that map is there for the • Town record. You are talking about 182 sites that are apparently there now, you are talking about expansion on top of that; those expanded sites are shown. . .where will they be. . .all the questions - that arise as to an accurate map as to any new expansion. . . the new numbers of campsites. That is what the zoning law requires, so would think that has to be produced before a public hearing so people can see what you are talking about . • Mr. Hogan said there is a motion on the floor, any further discussion. . .Mr. Reitz said in the interest of time, I will move that we table action on this motion, at this time, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. • Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • Approved. Auble Annexation. • Mr. Hogan said the Town has received a petition from Mr. Auble to rezone the 38+ acres that he owns in the Town of Ulysses to commercial . Mr. Reitz moved that the Town of Ulysses accepted the petition from William J. Auble for an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance as of June 11, 1991, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr. Hogan stated that this document has been given to the Town Attorney as of June 10, 1991 for review. Mr. Hogan asked David Auble to reiterate his discussion with Mr. Rachun. Mr. Auble said he met with Mr. Rachun to discuss the concept and get his input. Discussed the pros and cons of a development district vs a business district. Still studying which alternative and would like to continue with the petition until we TWISSMEIr . ;'1 ;, .• ,i11' ,r i. r .. ...� 1. t . .. •`4.' •'f:�. :,' } ': rq. . . v!:% .. .. . . .n'. Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting June 11 , 1991 determine what exactly to ask for. Couple of questions. . .why are it we asking for the entire 38 acres as a business district . . .basically the way I interpret the zoning regulations, a business district allows for residential also, so it gives us flexibility of both residential and business. Not saying that we are developing the 38 acres as business, don't think there is a demand for that now or in the near future, since we are doing • development in the Town vs what we originally proposed in the • Village, don't have access to water and sewer so it really _'• creates a situation that we will need more land for each business • or home that goes on the property because of the requirements of septic and wells . Obviously it would be a much less dense plan. Haven' t had a chance to work with Mr. Rachun on a plan, and don' t know who would actually want a business there so, when you are designing for a business you have to conform to what the tenant • wants . . . that will be a big factor in the final site plan that we present. If there is a way that the development district can be designed with that kind of flexibility, we would certainly • consider that alternative as opposed to a business district. Have completed our topographical survey and done conceptual site plans and are prepared to the SEQR requirements. . .plan to continue the normal procedures for rezoning as required by the • Town of Ulysses regulations between now and a public hearing and • hope to have the public hearing as soon as possible. Basically motivated to continue this by the support the Town has shown for our plan that we have presented in the past several meetings with the Town and the Village. Feel at this time we should start the project without the Village water and sewer and • hope that the Village will see the benefits that are generated. Mr. Meskill asked the Board if they have an approximate time table as far as SEQR review, public hearing? Mr. Reitz said that • as far as SEQR, we have accepted this document, within 20 days we have to determine who will be lead agent and within 30 days or after, determine what type of environmental action. The Town Board can tonight determine that we are the lead agent and • determine the type of action. Believe it will be a Type 1 action since it is over 25 acres. Mr . Rachun said there are a number of thresholds that would make it a Type 1 action; the first would be taking land out of an agricultural district . Mr. Hogan asked the period of time involved. Mr. Rachun said that he is not well advised in terms of changing a district , has looked and can't find information in any of the law books, or zoning books . . .when a request is made to change a district who handles it , that is why I suggested you seek council . If it does become a function of the Town Board to • be lead agency for SEQR it is going to be a Type 1 action and probably will be a draft DIS; that's a big chunk of land to ask for rezoning, and if that's the case then we are look at some time, certainly 90 days wouldn't be out of the question. Mr. Reitz said think I am correct that 20 days after this the Town Board has to determine who will be lead agent in the proposal . Asked who we are looking for this advice on lead agency. Mr. Rachun said think you are ok with SEQR, my question with town law is in district changing, amending the zoning ordinance, the function is not clear in changing from one use to another use. Mr. Reitz suggested that it be strongly recommended to the Town Attorney to try to get back to the Board within ten days from tonight on issues raised by Mr. Rachun. Mr. Rachun said he can't find anything in our Town Law or zoning who is responsible for overseeing this . . .Mrs . Georgia asked, 'because it is over 25 acres?' . . . 'or at any time. ' Mr. Rachun 4 1 . f l..i •1{ : :f: I , , Town of Ulysses Y Regular Town Board Meeting June 11, 1991 said, at any time. Mrs . Georgia said it has been done in the past , so we aren' t going to follow the same procedure? Mr. Rachun said he is aware of that. . . just raising a point, that it isn' t spelled out anywhere. .. Mr . Hogan said have to do this correctly, regardless of what has :' happened in the past . Mr. Auble asked if BEAR would be done now ,; as in the past . . .Mr. Reitz said pretty much, except this exceeds • the threshold, which it did not exceed before, the 25 acres . The previous business district was six acres . This is the first time we are stepping over the threshold. Mr. Hogan said we will . discuss this with the Town Attorney and ask for his direction. Water Study • Mr . Hogan announced that there would be a meeting tomorrow, June 12 , at the Biggs Building at noon with the County Planning Dept . and the Water Survey Committee. Will have further information at the next meeting of the Town Board. Mr. Reitz said this meeting might help us find sources of grant monies to bring water to parts of the Town where needed. Mr. Mason said that there is County money available to assist municipalities in planning water districts . Qenior Citizens Cable TV Discount • Mr. Hogan reported that he had talked with Ms Lukens at ACC and the senior citizen discount has been approved for the Village if they wish to pursue it. Mr. Meskill said it amounts to about one dollar a month and the paperwork is substantial and we are pretty overloaded in the Village Clerk's office right now. If we are • going to get only a couple, three requests, not a big deal . The . Village has not made a decision as yet. Mr. Reitz urged the 1 Trustees to discuss it and let the Town know their decision. Makes sense if both municipalities agree upon what to do, will avoid confusion. Mrs . Georgia will call Kathy West to see how many aged exemptions exist now. Mrs . Georgia said another matter for Mr. Meskill . . . the Village and Town Boards passed a resolution regarding the Youth Commission. . . that all the paperwork, etc. would be done in the Village Office. At the last Youth meeting, the Village Clerk was not amenable to this . . .the reason it was arranged this way was that the Village Clerk, who does payroll , etc. was more accessible than is the Town bookkeeper. I have committed the Town bookkeeper to do the payroll and feel it needs to be resolved between the two municipalities . Mr. Meskill expressed confusion between the UYU and the Youth Commission. Mrs. Georgia tried to explain the difference and how the reimbursement system works . Jacksonville Water Mr. Reitz reported that he had received a response concerning the groundwater monitoring being done in Jacksonville. The overall plume has shrunk substantially. Three of the homes on the outside perimeter of the plume are showing in the monitoring wells, absolutely clean. Mr. Rachun said he had checked the empty homes on the request of Mr. Reitz , and that they had definitely been vandalized. Contacted Mobil Oil Corp. , was told that an engineering firm had been retained to deal with the problem. . .and they have put together a list of recommendations for Mobil Oil . Our concern is that we don't want to have Mobil Oil come in and board these homes up and make it look like a ghost town. . .they have come up with a pretty good plan. Basically, whatever you can see from Town of Ulysses 8 Regular Town Board Meeting June 11, 1991 the road, they are going to repair and keep as is; what you can' t see they will board up [broken windows behind the homes] . They have retained services to trim hedges, do lawns, and try to make these houses look a part of what remains usable. Mr . Reits said there is still a substantial amount of contamination around the homes between what was O'Neil 's and Hughes. . . outside of that is showing clean. Mr. Reitz will contact Mobil Oil concerning testing of wells and number of months that they need to remain clean prior to Mobil selling. HEW BUSINESS Personnel Policy Mr. Hogan distributed the rough draft of the revised personnel policy to the Board members and suggested that they review it . Mrs . Duddlenton suggested a Special Board Meeting. Mr. Hogan pointed out the change to take effect July 1, 1991 regarding the health insurance. . .that insurance to a newly hired person after that date will be single coverage only and they can pay the difference between the single coverage and dependant coverage. Mr. Reits said that he appreciates the time the Personnel Policy Committee has spent on this document and agreed that it should be reviewed at a Special Board Meeting. • REPORTS Town Clerk - Mrs. Georgia reported that for the month of May fees collected were $1, 451. 50 of which $821.50 was turned over to the Supervisor. Used Town Clerk's new software package for the month and printed out reports and balanced. Also, have contacted Don Franklin about the new house numbers. Will go to the County to make these changes, just a matter of finding the time and having my Deputy put in extra hours. Except for a few roads at the lake, all others are complete. Mrs. Georgia reported that Anna Wood, Tax Collector has turned over to the Town Bookkeeper $12,740 .25 . . . the breakdown of that is: $2,500. original start up for Super 7; $4, 952. 77 in interest on Super 7 account; $4, 263.04 in penalties/charges . There was $2,500 . anticipated revenue from tax penalties/interest. . .getting far more than that . . .if at all possible with this additional revenue if we could do some up-dating on the computer. Doing taxes and house numbering and etc. it is extremely slow. It is five years old and need to do something. Highway - Mr . Meeker reported they helped the Town of Ithaca haul hot mix; mowed roadsides, attended Highway School for two and a half days, helped Village, did ditch work, starting to trim and spray around guardrails, etc. . The new loader is here; sold the other for more than anticipated. Zoning/Building - Mr. Rachun reported two new starts for the month, seven for the year. Total of starts $165,000.00. Total of six permits issued, construction costs $260,000 .00, total fees received $594.00. Planning Board has been busy putting together some of the development district requests. Are to vote on Site Plan Review tonight. . .and will probably be passing that onto the Town Board. i t `1.q4' •k:. . ,i iY ...��.• :Y:u. .' V ' ... ix... :'si. i�.(y_.t ry.'.. Nlf R ,=.. _ Is , Town of Ulysses 9 "° Regular Town Board Meeting June 11, 1991 Master Plan Committee are to meet tomorrow night. Board Reinhart Mr. Reitz up-dated the Board on the retirement reception being planned for Jim Rice. Will be held Monday, June 24 from 7-9PM at the Town Hall . A plaque has been ordered, invitations sent. Correspondence Mr. Hogan received the following correspondence: Town of Washington, Tompkins County Youth [summer hire] , Dept. of Planning [re: Open Space] , Village Police, T-burg Central School [re: using space for public hearings] , TC Planning Board agenda, Assoc. of Towns, Cornell Cooperative Extension, Mrs. Crass [re: RT 89] , Elizabeth Dialer [re: wrap-up on withdrawal of Article 78] , Board of Equalization & Assessment, Chamber of Commerce [funding for Fireworks] , DOT [response to Hogan's letter re: Shursave] , Human Services Coalition, ACC, TC Econ. Advisory Board. There was also a letter from Chris Gunn, board received copies. . .Mr. Reitz said regarding that letter; we comply with at least three out of the five items recommended. . .one that perhaps is a good idea is to set a date that applications will be received. Have a real problem with Item C. . . letters of application should be posted in public space. . .think we should check into legal ramifications of that. Mrs. Georgia said she had talked with Hugh Hurlbut, County Personnel , who will not put his opinion in writing. Intend to get an opinion from the Assoc. of Towns on letters of intent and resumes/when they come in for appointed positions/or copies given out. Basically the interviewing process does not have to be open to the public. Mr. Reitz said apparently Village Govt . is different. Mr. Hogan said a firm deadline for applications. . .don't see a need for that . . .never put a deadline on it because we have always had trouble getting people interested in various positions ! Mr. Hogan will reply to Mr. Gunn's letter. Hearing no further discussion, Mrs. Duddleston moved to an Executive Session to discuss a personnel matter, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Unanimously approved, the meeting of the Town Board was closed at 11: 10PM and moved to Executive Session. The Executive Session was adjourned at 11 : 25PM and the Town Board meeting was reconvened. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston to adjourn the Regular Town Board Meeting to Tuesday, June 25th, 1991 at 5:00pm. Unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned until June 25th, 1991. Respectfully sukmitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm 1 • :/ �.�.1 i.1 i Y :.�t.i •' 1 1l I:I �4-:�tF:w l �,La ( �. • �4.tev: 1 • t, y. .to tI° Y. TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING • JUNE 11 , 1991 7 :30 P.M. PRESENT: Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Budd Stover , Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins, Seville Reulein ; Secretary Rita Brown ; The Planning Board Committee met at 7:30 p .m. at the Taughannock • Handcrafted Log & Timber Construction PUD site on Park Road to view the location of this proposed business. The Planning Board Committee then resumed the meeting at 8:05 p .m. at the Village Office . Discussion was directed toward the Moore PUD. Dave Tyler announced that he had received , the results from County Planning and the Health Department . The Hearth Department wrote back indicating their only concern was " that the drainage from the interior floor drain pipe needs to be controlled. Oil , grease , antifreeze and degreasers should be collected _ in a. separate, .disposal . " This had already been made part 61 the -application ; id those concerns have been met . In the memo from the County Planning Department , items included • in their comments were : Part A 05 - Indicated that the slope seems too high . Part A, 011 - Does protect site contain any species of plant or animal life that is identified as threatened or endangered? • It was discussed that we don' t have any endangered species on the site . We are looking at Just the reuse of an abandoned building . The County Planning Department also commented on 'the location of the • Diatrene . It is located approximately 1900' East North East of the store . Given the fact that the Diatrene is not located at the project area, its location is not considered to be a threat to the Diatrene . A motion was made by Seville Reulein to approve the application as submitted with the following modifications : 1 ) the line of the PUD, north of the shop , shall not be the property line as shown on the sketch 3A in the application but shall be realigned to be parallel with the north wall of the former Poyer Shop , at least 20 feet there from and to be approximately 30-33 ft . distant from the south wall of the residence , north of the shop . 2) description of activities to be performed per stipulation with applicant during May 7th hearing. "Small marine engine repair shop , franchise for sales of marine motors, parts and accessories. " The motion was seconded by Gerald Perkins. Dave Tyler called for a vote as follows: Budd Stover aye Gerald Perkins aye • Geraldine Keil aye Seville Reulein aye David Tyler an Reasons for the approval : 1 ) appropriate use of existing commercially oriented structure ; very similar to prior use as lawn mower repair shop and orchard sales. 2) no different impact on neighborhood from prior use which existed by special permit . 3) close proximity to lake . 4) no objections from neighbors and support of prospective neighbor . • • • Reasons for modifications , ! 1 ) change of description per stipulation with applicant . 2) change of north line arose out of the committee's concern for a proper buffer and separation between the residential • and commercial uses, 3) survey of record of the residential parcel shows 4 .6 ft . distance between southwest corner of house and existing south property line . • We hereby refer this application to the Town Board as lead agency. Dave Tyler announced that the Planning Board Committee will be the supervisors for the Master Plan Committee . When the master plan gets further along, the Planning Board needs to get involved with the discussions. The next meeting will be Tuesday, June 18th . The meeting was adJourned at 9x15 p .m. . 1 .14. , 71.1 o inn tr, I n7 nr. r.o: • • • • • • .. . i . . s •. • • • • 1 ..l'•i..:, i(� tr, 'u• b: r: :' . Iv .I:'�'• .•re� :-i.:'': . .i%:?, `'I: -1' i 0 e r•. TOWN OF ULYSSES ,\ PLANNING BOARD MEETING JUNE 18, 1991 7 :30 P.M. PRESENT: Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Budd Stover , Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins , Seville Reulein , Richard Garner ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp . - Alex Rachun . The meeting was called to order at 7:40 p .m. Minutes of the Jun: 11th meeting were read. Geraldine Keil made the motion to approve the minutes ; seconded by Seville Reulein . All approved with the exception • of Richard Garner who abstained as he was not present at that meeting. Discussion was directed towards the Site Plan Review. In review, the Site Plan was voted on April 8th . As there was one negative vote and • not all members were present , the Site Plan was tabled for further discussion . Dave Tyler reminded the Committee of what elements may be included in a Site Plan as taken from the Town Law, 274-a - "Planning board approval of site plans and certain uses . " "Such elements may Include parking, means of access, screening, signs, landscaping, architectural features, location and dimensions of buildings, impact of the proposed use on adjacent land uses, and such other elements as may reasonably be related to the health , safety and general welfare of the community. " The committee had covered all of the above areas. • The committee had not specified any other elements that needed to be touched on at the time , and left space for items to be added as needed. Richard Garner asked a question regarding Section 315. It reads "Within 45 days of the conclusion of the hearing, the Planning Board shall act on it . If no decision is made within 45 day period, the • preliminary proposal shall be considered approved. " He asked if the Planning Board had the option to ask for longer than 45 days should • there be some things the Committee is restling with . Dave Tyler explained that the statute states that we have to act within 45 days and that's why it is stated "of the conclusion of the hearing. " When the file is complete in our hands, we have 45 days from there and this time is quite generous. Richard Garner also brought up for discussion multi -phase projects. The concern he had with approving multiple phases, that may be over four or five years, by granting approval to do that , you are locking • other possible developers out of the community, as they have to sit back and see if that protect is ever going to happen . It was decided that that could be controlled when approving a PUD . The Committee might be reluctant to give approval for projects that go on that long and may only approve for maybe the first phase and then have them come back before the Board for further approval of the other phases . Another concern brought up for discussion was who looks into whether there is financial approval to complete a project , how do you determine if a project will be a success, in looking out for the community. It was discussed that that is not up to the Planning Board, but it is something that could be asked by the public at the public hearing. Another thing that could be done is put a time limit on the approval . The majority of projects that fail because of financial difficulty , usually another developer will come along and pick up on that project . Being no futher discussion , Richard Garner made a motion that the Site Plan Review be approved by the Planning Board as stated in the April 8, 1991 Draft . Seconded by Geraldine Keil . Further discussion - Gerald Perkins asked if this was geared Just towards commercial . Dave Tyler indicated that this excludes residential and agriculture as per stated in section 310 . 2 of the Site Plan Review. Dave Tyler explained that It Is geared towards new projects , like multi -unit dwellings , business, educational , Institutional - anything that Isn ' t covered In a PUD. It is focused r •�t • �... at a type of project , not towards a particular type of investor , Dave Tyler also pointed out that Section 318 (Short procedure for certain Site Plan Reviews) is a provision to make it easier than PUD' s, gives us the ability to act quickly and protects the little guy. Being no further discussion the committee voted on the Site Plan Review. Geraldine Kell aye Seville Reulein aye • Gerald Perkins nay ri Budd Stover nay Richard Garner aye Dave Tyler aye . It should be noted that Roland Reynolds moved and voted In favor of the Site Plan Review at the April 8, 1991 meeting. The Site Plan Review will be turned over to the Town Board for action . Copies of the Master Plan were given out to the Planning Board ' members. Dave Tyler asked the Planning Board to read over the Draft • of the Master Plan , make comments and get them to Glen Applebee' by • Friday to be included in the next Draft . Discussion was then turned to the Pleasant Grove PUD. Dave Tyler indicated that we had received a letter from County Planning. County Planning stated "The proposal as submitted will have no significant deleterious impact on intercommunity, county, or state interests. As such , no additional recommendation is indicated by the Tompkins County Planning Department , and you are free to act without prejudice . Please submit a copy of your decision so that we can make it a part of the record. " Other comments made by County Planning were : "The two curb cuts onto New York State Route 96 will reduce the carrying capacity of the State highway and create traffic problems at closely spaced ingress and egress points. One access point is sufficient but it must have a reasonably wide entrance and exit lanes to allow for safe traffic flow if one line is blocked. The access point must have good distance and signage to allow for safe entry onto high speed traffic . " After discussion it was decided that the Planning Board needs to ask Mr . Gulledge to come to the next Planning Board meeting to discuss these comments. The next Planning Board meeting will be Monday, June 24th at the Village Conference Room to discuss the Pleasant Grove PUD and the • TaughannocK Log Home PUD. The Planning Board meeting was adjourned at 9: 15 p .m. • . . . 6 • TOWN OF ULYSSES ' PLANNING BOARD MEETING JUNE 24 , 1991 7 :30 F .M . PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - • Budd Stover , Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins , Seville Reulein ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp . - Alex Rachun . C. OTHERS PRESENT : Don Christian , John Graves . The meeting was called to order at 7 :40 p .m . Minutes of the June 18th meeting were read . One correction to the minutes - " It should be noted that Roland Reynolds , who was absent this date , moved and voted in favor of the Site Plan Review at the April 8 , 1991 meeting . " Geraldine Keil made the motion to approve the minutes with correction ; seconded by Gerald Perkins. No further discussion ; all approved . . Monday, July 1 at 7:30 p .m. was set for the next meeting . Discussion was directed toward the Taughannock Handcrafted Log & • Timber Construction , Inc . PUD . Mr . Christian and Mr . Graves were -. present to answer questions . The first concern expressed was the fact that Taughannock Park borders the property on two sides and it is normally not wise to put commercial next to preservation (park lands) , Mr . Christian indicated that this is a unique business , not a high intensive business . They are working on a small home now, but the previous eight months were spent building one house . He also indicated that this is also educational . They have people from • elementary schools come to visit . He doesn' t feel that his business • is much different than a farming operation , he is building a house that will last many years , and making good use of our resources . Mr . Christian indicated that he had spoken with Don Oliver of the State Parks and that they have a very good working relationship with the DEC as they go through the DEC to obtain their logs . He explained that once they determine how many logs they will need to build a structure , they hire a logger in the Adirondacks . They also meet with the DEC members for advice. Mr. Christian indicated that they had had no negative feedback from the State Parks . Alex Rachun expressed that the park did have some concerns and they would be forwarding them on to us . Their main concerns were noise and the trucks in regard to the number and the weight . ' The second concern is heavy trucking and what routes would be used . Mr . Christian indicated that the truckers make the decision what main . routes they take , he can only give local directions . ..% Mr . Christian gave us a run down on what kinds of equipment he would have on the site . He will have 1 10-ton National truck with a crane . • It has a 60' boom which folds up on the bed of the truck . It runs off gasoline . There would be no other heavy equipment . He has been in business for 10-11 years . The Committee was concerned with spillage of chemicals which are used to preserve the logs and asked what kind of chemicals were used . Mr . Christian indicated that they use a preservative that is made of tree and vegetable resins and has no chemicals in it . They paint one coat on the logs once the house is assembled . The homeowners then paint two more coats on it (with the same stuff purchased from Mr . Christian) when the house is up . Dave Tyler asked that they bring a . label from one of the cans to next weeks meeting . The only other residues are bark and sawdust and that they will sell or give away . They indicated that they assemble 3 - 5 homes per year . It averages two trucks per month . "What do you anticipate the noise level to be?" One of the things that was attractive was the fact that there is no one around and the location sits down in the gravel pit . They will have to re-grade the area in order to get the trucks in there and make a flat area to build . . . the houses on . Dave Tyler asked that they sketch out what they anticipate the site to look like to be presented to the Town Board . • They indicated that they do have a building , but they are not applying • for that now. They don 't have money for that right now, maybe in 2-3 years . The building that they have is 60' x 120' . It was suggested • that they may want to get approval for that now, so they won 't have to come before the Board when they want to put that building up . They do • not need water and have their own generator for electricity . 4 Reasons given for "Why this site is appealing to you . " : 1 . Its land that they can afford . 2 . There is no one within hearing distance . 3. Their name is "Taughannock Handcrafted Long & Timber • Construction Inc . " seems appropriate for this area. R. Has a good draining surface , won 't have to work in mud . Will keep the site clean . This is not a seasonal activity . They work year round . They will work normal work days and hours . They are a partnership of three people and then they hire 3-5 people to peel logs . They have no plans for bathroom or port-a-potty on site . It was decided that next week we would meet at the site on Park Road and test the noise level of the • chain saws . There was some questions as to who owns the section of land that is 31 .8 acres ; it is believed that it is owned by the park now . • The Committee began preliminary work on the SEAR form and completed Part 1 . Next Monday , the Committee will meet at the site of this PUD • on Park Road and then meet to complete the SEAR application . The ,meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p .m. S . • • y 1 .:.C :. r - ',: •4 Y. :f TOWN OF ULYSSES ADJOURNED BOARD MEETING . Juno 25 , 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine • • ., Stover , Carolyn Duddleston, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present : Alex Rachun, David Auble. • Mr . Hogan, Supervisor, opened the meeting at 5 : 20 PM. The topics of discussion are as follows : Auble project , Bruce Wilson's legal opinion regarding the Auble project , Personnel Policy , • Moore PUD [set date for public hearing] , recommendations from Planning Board re: Site Plan Review [set public hearing] , map for Spruce Row Campsite. Auble Proiect . Mr . Hogan stated that Attorney Wilson told the Town that there is no particular time-frame to act on this request , we don' t have to give it to the Planning Board if we don' t want to/but can if we decide to . Mrs . Duddleston asked if the Planning Board had -' received copies of the petition. Mr . Rachun said they were aware of it but didn' t know if they had copies . Mr . Hogan said we have to decide what step to take next . Mrs . - Stover asked a couple of questions about Mr. Wilson's letter. Mr. Reitz asked David Auble if it was William Auble's intention . to continue on with the petition to make that a commercial . district . . .know you have talked with Mr. Rachun about the possible proposal of a PUD. ` David Auble said looking at the flexibility of the business section. . .what I like about business district is that it allows residential as well as commercial . Since we don' t have water and • • • sewer; the actual site plan is going to have to be designed on the basis of wells and septic systems . That means spreading 1 everything out more. First step is to get rezoning; to go to the level of designing the PUD. . .priur to doing test wells would be • an expensive exercise. First step is to rezone, then we can do • • test wells and that would more define the plan. Mr . Reitz said he feel we have to invoke SEQR, and by going over the threshold of 25 acres, if you go into a zoning change, we have to have to determine the lead agent and type of action . If. you [Auble] had thought about reducing the amount of land to under 25 acres , it might change the Board's consideration. David Auble asked what differences if only 24 acres. . .no SEQR? • Mr. Reitz said there is still SEQR, but the length of SEQR form is determined by type of action. Mr. Rachun said the threshold you would be crossing is the 25 acres is also land that would be • extracted out of an agriculture district; you would be going through the long form for SEQR. He explained SEQR and environmental impact statement. Tf the Town Board is lead agent , and looks like they will be, they will have to determine whether this is required [draft environmental impact statement] or not . David Auble said he has no problem with less than 25 acres . . .say 24 . . .will need room to spread out . . .don' t know water situation • . there. Mr. Reitz asked if this could be used as a future I negotiating point with the Village to get water and sewer , . . that you would develop less than the 38 acres; less than 24 acres? Mr . Auble said he wouldn't even mind if you want to put some kind of condition with the Town, that if the Village agrees to water and sewer, we will go back from the 38 to an agreeable number. .. Town of Ulysses 2 Adjourned Board Meeting June 25 , 1991 • • There was a question as to this land being in an agricultural • district . Mr . Rachun said that parcel of land is in a State mandated ag district . David Auble pointed out for the record that they are very willing to go through SEQR process . . .Mr . Rachun said there has to be a reason to do an EIS. Mr . Reitz said we can determine that the Town Board will act as lead agent in a SEQR review process . Mr . Reitz asked Mr . Hogan if he wanted a motion to designate the lead agent in the SEQR review process? Mc . Hogan asked Mr. Ruble if it is his intention to change the petition to less acres? Mr . Auble said at this time will leave it as it is , if a point comes that it needs to be modified, will consider that . Mr . Reitz said that Mr . Rachun pointed out , the question about the ag district, threshold limit can be one acre out of an ag district requires a type 1 action or • procedure . That ' s why we have to find out for sure about the ag district question, otherwise there might be other thresholds that would imply what type of an action. First thing is lead agency and the second question is time period of what action there might be . • Mr . Hogan said Mr. Rachun is the chief advisor on SEQR. . .Mr. Reitz said that is correct and asked if a motion was needed to have the Town Board act as lead agent . . .Mr. Hogan said he wanted to think about that . Mr . Reitz said that under SEQR, Section 6. 7 . 6 . . . .A1 . . ' if the agency has received an application for funding or approval of the action it shall determine the significance of the action within twenty calendar days of its receipt of the application, and EAF and any additional • information reasonably necessary to make that determination. ' Mr . Rachun suggested finding out all the involved agencies , and then the agency that has the most at stake would be the lead agency . Once the lead agency is determined, they could determine the action. • Mr. Rachun said you have to remember that the only thing you are looking at is a change in zoning and you have to keep clear in your mind that an involved agency is an agency that 's going to • have some vested stake and has to make a decision and say yes you can do this or no you can' t do this . The Town of Covert and Seneca County may be interested agencies , parties that you may want to make aware of what is going on, but they can in no way • say this land can or cannot be turned commercial . Mr. Hogan asked who can, besides us? Mr. Rachun said that is the question you have to ask; I would say the only discretionary action at • • this point is being taken by you. . .whether you want that responsibility down the line, is your business . A change in • • zoning, like a PUD, rant he handled by an Article 78 . Can advise, as Mr . Reitz suggested, other interested parties . - - Mr . Reitz moved to have the Town Board, Town of Ulysses, designated as lead agency for SEQR review for the Auble proposed rezoning petition, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr . Hogan said then basically we are saying that we have accepted the petition for the 38 acres and we want to designate ourselves as lead agency and at some point and time have to decide if we want the Planning Board to take at look at this , and then also set this up for a public hearing. Mrs . Duddleston asked if the type of action is on hold. . .Mr . Rachun said that is a key question. Mr . Hogan said if that is the case then the developer would be well advised to change the size of the area . Mr. Rachun said he will try to get the information regarding type of action • Town of Ulysses 3 Adjourned Board Meeting . June 25 , 1991 , and will also look up ag districts . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye ' ,..: Mrs . Duddleston Aye Approved . Mr . Reitz said that when Mr . Rachun finds out what type of a district this is then can determine what type of action it falls under . Mr . Rachun said he will try to figure that out tomorrow and get the information back to the Board; pretty sure it will be . a type 1 action unless the developer is willing to reduce the number of acres . Mr . Auble said he has no problem going through the SEQR process . . . looking at the benefits the larger parcel . • offers vs the smaller . Mrs . Duddleston said we can then turn this over to the Planning Board. Mr. Hogan said there are people • concerned about the size of the development . . .personally feel that a lot of people would accept it if it were smaller than 38 • acres . If it is going to make the process a lot more acceptable • to people in the community and save you time and money, then in . the best interest of all , you should consider reducing the size of this commercial district . Mr . Reitz said that to reduce the -. • size would mean withdrawing this petition and starting all over , • again. That point should be clarified. , David Auble asked if there was some point at which the public . hearing could be set , some way to get a time-frame to work with from our standpoint? Mr. Reitz felt this to be a reasonable , request . Need to give our Planning Board and others we are sending it to some guidelines as to when we expect it back, rather than sitting on it for months . Mr . Rachun said the normal �j process is to allow 30 days . Mr. Reitz said he would suggest hearing back within 30 days of receipt , which would be about July 30th. Scheduling of a public hearing was discussed. . . legal time- frame, etc. • Mr. Auble said our interest is in trying to capture as much of • the building season as possible. , Mr . Rachun said he would strongly urge the Board that Site Plan Review be set up for a public hearing before the Auble hearing, . because the simple matter is that without Site Plan Review there wouldn' t be a three-step process, there would only be a one step process , 38 acres of commercial with no zoning review. • Mrs . Stover said everyone should be aware that the Planning Board is divided on Site Plan Review and we should go over it very , . closely. Mr . Rachun said it passed 4-2 . Mr. Reitz suggested that the Planning Board be instructed to • report back to the Town Board no more than 30 days after they receive the material on Auble's petition, and earlier if possible. This will give the Planning Board and interested agencies a maximum of 30 days, less if possible. . .at that time we will set a date for the public hearing. Mr. Hogan said we could set a tentative date for public hearing now. Suggested Thursday, IAugust 1 , 1991 . Mr . Hogan said he would think it a good idea for the Town Board to sit down with our Planning Board and our Master Plan Committee and get their opinions on this thing. David Auble said if he -- could make a brief presentation at that type of meeting it would be helpful . Mr. Reitz agreed this type of meeting would be good and suggested Mr . Hogan set that up. Iq3 Town of Ulysses 4 , • Adjourned Board Meeting June 25 , 1991 Moore PUD Mr . Rachun said the Planning Board has been meeting on two requests and one is an approval that the secretary just brought it . Think it was unanimous on the Moore PUD. The Town Board is lead agency in SEQR, there are involved agencies and we have heard back from them and they have said to proceed as lead agency and make your decision . I felt as technician that it would be a negative declaration, no environmental impact statement , this is a low impact business going in and there was a light business there before; they are requesting that the Board set a public . hearing date and also forwarded with that Site Plan Review. . . they have forwarded the vote on Site Plan Review showing that it was a r, 4-2 vote and a request to set a public hearing for that also. ';r:• Was decided to have the public hearing for the Moore PUD on July 16, 1991 at 7 :00 PM. Mrs , Georgia will advertise. The Board •' . will read through the Site Plan Review before the next Town Board • Meeting on Tuesday, July 9, 1991 . At that time a date will be set for a public hearing. Spruce Row Map Mr . Hogan asked if we accept the map as presented by Mr. O'Cello. Mr. Rachun stated that he was very comfortable with the map. Mr. -• Hogan entertained a motion to approve the map as the official map of Spruce Row Campsite and to approve payment to Mr . O'Cello for his work. Moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Mrs . Stover asked how this will be paid and Mr. Hogan said that we will pay Mr. O'Cello and bill Mr. Weber for $500 .00 , half of the cost . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Approved. Mr. Reitz asked what would be done next regarding Spruce Row. Mr . Rachun asked when the Board wanted to start this process for Spruce Row. . . a SEQR long form will have to be done by the Town. . . the Town Board is making the request for the change, and the Town Board has to review the request . . .unique situation. Weber has now withdrawn all requests . . . the Board kept on and continued with it , the Board became the developer. It should be a quick process, do part 1, do part 2 , file a negative . . declaration, set the public hearing and go with it . The only thing that would stop it right now, as I see it, would be Mr . ' Weber himself . • Much discussion took place at various times during the meeting regarding ag districts and maps . Mr. Hogan said we still have to determine density [number of campsites allowed] winter storage, buffers and such. Mrs . Stover 1 gave her formula for determining the total number of campsites . Personnel Policy Mr. Reitz suggested including a statement of Affirmative Action or Equal Opportunity . Also sexual harassment , military leave. There is also something called Fair Labor Standards. . . if you are putting together a document , these items should be included. Mr. Hogan suggested putting in a statement that says we comply with all State and Federal standards . Mr. Reitz pointed out that Town of Ulysses / {411 5 Adjourned Board Meeting June 25 , 1991 people don ' t know what those standards are. Mrs . Georgia said • that items such as military leave were discussed by the committee, but sometimes people get wrapped up in who is working at the present time and fail to think in the future as to who may come on board. Mr . REitz said there isn' t anything about • vacancies . . .what is the procedure on that . Mr. Hogan felt that was more management policy . Mr. Reitz felt an employee has the right to know how vacancies are filled. . .advancement within . Mr . Reitz said he can made copies of some single page items from the Cornell personnel policy manual . Mr . Hogan said he feels that a simple statement would suffice. . .doesn' t want to clutter up the policy . Mr . Reitz said he will get the documents and let the Board make a determination. Another alternative is to post certain rules/regulations . • Mr . Hogan said perhaps we should contact County Personnel and find out what documents should be posted. Discussion ensued regarding the proposed Personnel Policy with changes as follows : Page 1 . . .WORK WEEK, second paragraph. . .Class "B" employees are to receive benefits prorated at 50% for regularly scheduled work tnurs with a minimum of twenty (20) hours per work week. **REWRITE! ! Third paragraph. . . change in last sentence 'delivered' to 'made available' . Page 2 . . . SICK LEAVE, first paragraph. . . re, how does Jeanne calculate sick time. . .say a person gets sick at noon or two hours to go to the dentist . . .how is that determined. Mr . Reitz suggested accumulating sick days by the hour rather than by day. Would be easier to keep books if you do this by pay period. . . if you earn eight hours per month then you would accumulate four hours per pay period. Will check with Jeanne. . .Mrs . Georgia said she didn' t know if Jeanne kept this on the computer or not . Second paragraph. . .Mr. Reitz said he has a problem with wording ' shall submit to the department head' . . . recommends using instead of 'shall ' , 'may be requested to submit ' [also delete Supervisor' s office] . Also, in the first sentence. . . ' (5) or more days ' , change to read ' (5) or more consecutive working days ' . Also, last sentence of same paragraph, change 'shall ' to 'may be requested to' . Last paragraph, first sentence. . . 'When an employee goes on an unpaid leave for any reason, he' ; change 'he' to ' that employee' . Page 3 . . .HEALTH INSURANCE, first paragraph, add. . . 'added family plan coverage is available at the employees own expense' . Second paragraph. . . add the same statement to cover Class B employees . Mr . Reitz asked if this applies to new employees to be hired after the effective date of this policy? Mr . Hogan said Yes . Mr. Hogan said it wouldn' t be fair to take away benefits from the existing employees . When this document is adopted it will replace the one adopted 12/84. Do have to discuss the judge and court clerk and zoning enforcement office because this was a condition of their salaries. • Mrs . Duddleston questioned giving 50% health benefits to permanent part time employees . Mr. Hogan said if they work 20 hours a week or more, we are giving them half benefits for everything else, should also give health benefits . Looked at the • . Town of Ulysses 6 Adjourned Board Meeting June 25 , 1991 hospital personnel policy. . .anyone who works 20 hours or more is classified as a permanent part time employee, you are entitled to half benefits ; if the normal work week is 40 hours and you work 30 hours then you get 75% of the benefits . . . they are prorated based on the number of hours you work. Q. Mr . Hogan said at this time we only have one permanent part time 1 employee working 20 hours or more. Mrs . Georgia said that Mr. Meeker requested something regarding hours of work. . .not sure where to fit it in. . . Page 1 under Work Week; this is what he does now that isn' t in here, from the County; ' those highway department employees called in on an emergency will be compensated to a maximum of one half hour to ■ • travel to work' . What is being done now. . . if the men are called - at 3 o' clock and can get there by 3 : 30 they are paid from 3 o' clock. . .used as an incentive. Mrs. Georgia read from County policy ' employees in the highway department who are called in to • work outside their regular work shift will be guaranteed a minimum of four hours ' He does not do that now but the County and Town of Ithaca does have this policy and Meeker is asking the Board's thoughts on this . The last item is for on- call people. According to County Personnel . . . if Meeker says to one of his men you are on-call and can' t leave your house, not - free to go anywhere. . . that is on-call . Mrs . Georgia said that most places to pay if you are called in, you get paid for four hours of work. Meeker said that if they are called in they usually don' t work less than four hours but still would like the Board's thoughts . The one he does do now that he would like to include in the policy. . . the half hour travel time when called in on an emergency. Mr. Hogan said he doesn' t see the need of the four hour call-in pay. . . if it happens only rarely, really doesn' t apply. The half hour, yes, have him write it up and will be included in policy. The men he has on board now, no problem. . .but Meeker won't be superintendent forever, and the same men won' t be there forever, so really should have the policies spelled out for the future. Was decided to include the following: Town of Ulysses employees called in on an emergency will be compensated, to a maximum of one-ha: hour, to travel to work. The Board decided to meet at 7 :00PM on Tuesday, July 9, 1991 prior to the Regular Town Board Meeting to discuss the remainder of the Personnel Policy and Site Plan Review. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved the meeting was adjourned at 8 : 15PM. • Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia pm . 1 alma . .:�d 'f . •:.: l: .•.t .1 . " V .i•11 '.I,1♦ t : ).. \� h a : I �. ,` ..Stt:\ r O $ ; t : ' TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING ` JULY 1 , 1991 A 7 :30 P .M . • PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Budd Stover , Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins , Seville • Reulein ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp . - • Alex Rachun . • OTHERS PRESENT : Don Christian , Frank Anderson of Taughannock • Handcrafted Log & Timber Construction , Inc . and Sue '. Poelvaorde of the NYS Office of Parks . The Planning Board Committee met at 7 :30 p .m . at the site of the Taughannock Handcrafted Log & Timber , Inc . PUD on Park. Road . The committee then moved to surrounding locations to test the noise level _ of the chain saw in the gravel pit . David Tyler went to Rice Road , Seville Reulein , Geraldine Keil and Sue Poelvoorde went to the park overlook area . The noise from the chain saw could not be heard at these locations . • The Committee then resumed the meeting at the Town Office at 8 :00 p .m. The minutes of the June 24th meeting were reviewed . Geraldine Keil r, made the motion to approve the minutes ; seconded by Seville Reulein . • - No further discussion ; unanimously approved . Mr . Christian presented the Committee with information on the preservative that will be used . This preservative is "no more hazardous than nutmeg or caffein" ; there . is little odor , fills the wood pores ; mandatory in the state of • California . He also presented the committee with a sketch . He had • decided that they would like to include their building in this PUD . The building will be 60' x 120' , 25' high , open on all sides . They 1 intend to build under this structure . Because adding this building changes the original PUD request , Alex Rachun stated that Mr . Christian needs to submit a written request to the Planning Board to incorporate the building with the plans . He recommended that the , sketch be drawn to scale ; it must show to scale exactly where the building will be located . They must come up with a legal description of the boundaries as shown by a survey . Mr . Christian also indicated • • that a port-a-potty would be put on the site . A list of concerns and questions were submitted by the NYS Office of Parks . The first question addressed was What happens to the pieces of log that are cut out? The log chunks will be removed from the . site . They either take them away themselves for fire wood or give them away . The preservatives come in 5 gallon recyclable containers . They will be removed from the property and recycled . Another concern , , expressed was the expectations the owner and employees might have to get assistance from park personnel . Mr . Christian indicated that they • would not rely on the support from the State Parks personnel . The other big concern is in regard to traffic . The largest house that was built was 5,000 square feet and that required six truck loads of logs . The average number of trucks per month is two . Sue Poelvoorde indicated that the Park Road was not build to accommodate heavy trucks and there was some concern as to how heavy the loaded trucks would be . She indicated that right now there is no weight limit on the road , but they could institute a weight limit if they felt it would be a problem. She explained that the road is maintained by the State . Mr . Christian will call the DEC and find out the average weight of the trucks loaded with logs . Mr . Christian explained they they use New York State red pines all taken from the State Forest in the Adirondacks . The Committee felt that the biggest concern in regards to community services is that there may be a problem with vandelism . To summarize , Dave Tyler stated that we need to have a survey showing the boundaries of the State Park land , and then they could make a sketch drawn to scale . The next meeting will be Monday , July 8 at .. 7 :30 p .m . The meeting was adjourned at 9 :25 p .m . • • twit •, TOWN OF ULYSSES • PLANNING BOARD MEETING • JULY 8, 1991 7 :30 P .M . • PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Dudd Stover , Richard Garner , Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins , Seville Reulein ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp . ' ® Alex Rachun . •ti OTHERS PRESENT : Don Christian , John Graves of Taughannock • Handcrafted Log & Timber Construction , Inc . , Jim and Laura Scott , Bill Housworth ; Andrew Mazzella and Sue Poelvoorde of the NYS Office of Parks . The meeting was called to order at 7 :40 p .m . Minutes of the July 1 , • 1991 meeting were read . One correction made was that Sue Poelvoorde went to Rice Road with Dave Tyler to test noise level , not the overlook . Alex Rachun also went with Seville Reulin and Geraldine Keil to the overlook . Seville Reulein made a motion to approve the minutes with corrections ; seconded by Gerald Perkins . No further discussion ; unanimously approved . Dave Tyler announced that he would be out of town for two weeks . If the Planning Board needs to meet , he asked Seville Reulein to chair the meeting in his absence . If Seville is unable to do this , Budd Stover will chair the meeting . A sample of the preservative to be used on the logs was presented to the Board . Don Christian also presented the committee with • information on the weight load of the trucks . He received the information from the senior forester of the DEC . He was informed that a 18" in diameter , 45' long green red pine tree weighs about 1 ,025 lbs . They put an average of 20 logs on a truck , therefore , the load • on the truck is approx . 20 ,500 lbs . The truck itself weighs 32,000-33,000 lbs . The total loaded weight is approx . 55,000 lbs . The legal road limit is 80 ,000 lbs . Also presented to the committee , was a revised aerial view map designating the boundaries . Don Christian went out with Jim Scott and they located the survey pin . There was no survey map available. This map was a 1964 aerial survey map from the ASCS office . Dave Tyler asked Andrew Mazzella if the Parks Office had existing surveys. Mr . Mazzella would check . John Graves submitted a plan of the building that will be included in the PUD. Geraldine Keil asked Andrew Mazzella as representative of the park how they feel about this project . He indicated that they have no major objections to the project as presented . He felt that all of their questions had been answered . They have some concern with future expansion that may change the character of the operation . Alex explained that the Town Board requires that the applicant come in and • submit again whenever any kind of change is going to be made and that • the Parks people would be notified . Mr . Mazzella indicated that the Park Road was not constructed for heavy duty use , but given the number of vehicles that would be going in and out of there , the State Park engineer did not see this as a problem . The Board then went through and completed the Environmental Assessment Form . Seville Reulein made a motion that the Planning Board accept the proposal of the Taughannock Handcrafted Log & Timber Construction , Inc . PUCI as submitted , subject to the following conditions , to the Town Board : 1 ) The legal description to be provided by a survey to be performed by a licensed surveyor shall become incorporated in the application . 2) A "portable potty" shall be put on the site . . • . . . • • q • 3) The type of wood treatment to be used shall be limited to that presented to the Board by the applicant . 4) There shall be an area within the parcel of 50 ft . of trees along the park line as a buffer . 5) There shall be no solid waste or liquid waste disposal on site . • 6) There shall be proper storage of petroleum fuels on site not • to exceed 275 gallons at any one time . • 7) There shall be no night time operations and weekend operations shall be only on occasional bas s . 8) The building shall be set back from park boundary 100 feet , • and other three boundaries at least 50 feet . 9) The elevation of building shall be as depicted in the application below the level of surrounding terrain . 10) The building shall be completed within five years . The motion was seconded by Budd Stover . Being no further discussion , Dave Tyler called for a vote as follows : Geraldine Keil Nay Gerald Perkins Aye • • Seville Reulein Aye Budd Stover Aye Richard Garner Nay David Tyler Aye • Reasons for the approval : • 1 ) We have had input from the Finger Lakes Park Commission and as stated by Andrew Mazzella : " It is a low impact commercial activity that will not have an adverse affect on the State Park as presented ." • 2) The existing gravel pit is harboring activities that are not of best interest to community , i .e . garbage being dumped , jeeps and 4-wheelers racing around , inviting for parties, etc . 3) This particular commercial use linked very closely to an agricultural process . Reasons against : 1 ) Buffer area to state park lands as being considered by the Master Plan Committee . 2) May have a negative influence on future surrounding land use development . • 3) Future impact on community expansion . 4) Juxtaposition of a commercial use with park land which has been called a "unique-natural area" . We hereby refer this application to the Town Board as lead agency. The meeting was adjourned at 9 :55 p .m. • TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING July 9, 1991 • Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Thomas Reitz , Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Paula Mount , Deputy Clerk . Others Present : Jeanne Vanderbilt , Alex Rachun, David Auble, Jim ' & Rita Brown, Barbara Page, Marty Murtaugh, Dick Durling, Olen Chase, Carl Mann, Steve Proctor, Antonia . ' Demas , Ruth & Peter Kahn, Marian Boratynaki , Chris Gunn, Larry Thompson, Town Attorney Bruce Wilson, David . Tyler, Budd Stover, Ed Moseley, Larry Reverby, Liz & . Hop Raymond. • Mr. Hogan, Supervisor, called the Regular Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8 :07 PM and led those assembled in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes of the Regular • Town Board Meeting of 6/11/91 and the Adjourned Board Meeting of 6/25/91 , moved by Mrs. Stover, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Reitz asked that the Auble Annexation be referred to as the Auble Project since the annexation has been dropped. • Hearing no further corrections, Mr. Hogan asked for the vote. • Mr. Hogan Aye • • Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddloston . Aye . Mr. Weatherby . . Aye Approved. . . . .. . Report: Trumansburg Fire Department I Dick Durling . reported on the monthly activities for the Trumansburg Fire Department (see report attached) . Report: Representative James Mason Absent . Claims . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #223-257 in the amount of $8372 . 62 , moved . by.Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . • Duddleston. . Mr. Hogan. Aye • Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye • Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Supervisor's Financial Report . Distributed to the Board. Mrs. Vanderbilt reviewed the State cuts with the Board. The Town will receive 39% less than • received last year. . .divided up in different funds . The State has restored some "CHIPS" money to us . This money cannot be shifted . to .other accounts . Hearing of Delegations & Individuals Mrs . Demas asked if the Board would be discussing the appointment • • • TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 • REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 9, 1991 • of Jerry Perkins . Mr . Hogan said that could be addressed under Old Business/Personnel Policy. OLD BUSINESS • • Spruce Row Campsite • Mr . Hogan said the density issue needs to be discussed and decided and a date set for a public hearing. Entertained II discussion from the Board. Mr. Reitz reiterated history of Spruce Row. There are 40 acres left to develop; the density is around five or six, which far exceeds State mandates . Need to • review map, determine maximum number of sites and if we want to include, as recommended by our Planning Board, the pond, house, whole lower area and extend and include that area in our legal • description of boundaries . Hearing no further input Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to table this item until the next Regular Town Board meeting, Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover who added that Mr. Weber should be asked to attend. Mr . Reitz said the Board members should consider two things; • first of all the SEQR action that we have to take on this and second, come up with a formula for density so that we can move and act on this issue. Mr. Rachun stated that if the Board takes into account the • Planning Board recommendation of adding the pond and house to the development district , that is land extracted out of an ag district , which would mean that it is a Type 1 action and as such, under SEQR, County Planning would be involved and possibly the Health Department . . .especially if you are adding to the density. My concern would be that if we keep tabling this issue, and don' t get focused on SEQR, this will drag on forever. Mr. Reitz said it is clear that the Town Board would be lead agent . . .Mr. Rachun concurred. Mr. Reitz asked if a motion had ever been presented to that effect . . .Mr. Rachun said that is for • the Board to decide. . .you are the lead agency because all other agencies have only partial concerns . Mr. Weatherby asked what it would take to get this going. Mr. Rachun said Mr. Weber has to fill out Part 1 of SEQR and he should be advised of that , which I will do. If you include the land the Planning Board says should be included, and I think Mr. Weber wants included, then you will have a Type 1 action. . .we know that now; so from this point on as lead agency, we are going to have to coordinate with County, get SEQR [at least Part 1] done; tentatively get Part 2 done and get • it out to the County and Health Dept . for input so that you • • • [Board] can make a decision on it . • Mr . Reitz asked Mr. Rachun if [per request at last Board Meeting] he had started the action on this . Mr. Rachun said he has Part 2 • filled out but Mr. Weber has to do Part 1 . . . as developer. Mr. Reitz asked if the Town or Mr. Weber was the developer. . . think we are the developer, as previously determined. . . so we are to fill out Part 1 and 2 . Mr. Rachun will work on this . Mr. Reitz withdrew his motion to table [if agreeable with the second/Mrs . Stover agreed] so we can at least move on lead agency and start SEQR action. Mr. Reitz moved that the Town of Ulysses , under the Spruce Row Campsite be the lead agent under SEQR review, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr . Hogan asked if the density issue had to be determined. . .Mr. Rachun said it makes it very difficult to do SEQR, Part 1 until density is determined. Mr. Reitz said his motion is to take up lead agency. • ria TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 9 , 1991 Mr . Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Approved . Mr . Reitz said that now that the Town has become lead agent , perhaps we should instruct our SEQR technician to start filling out Parts 1 & 2 . Mr . Hogan suggested a meeting prior to the next Regular Board Meeting and sit down with Mr. Weber and get this density issue resolved. Mr. Hogan will contact Mr. Weber and see when he is available. Mr . Reitz reminded Mr. Hogan that there is a meeting with the Village on July 24th, also a tentative date of August 1st for public hearing on Auble Rezoning. Mr. Hogan said he will try to set this up for Tuesday, July 16th following the public hearing on Moore PUD. Site Plan Review Mr. Hogan asked if the Board had a chance to review the Planning Board's recommendations on Site Plan Review; introduced Mr . David Tyler, Chairman of Planning Board. Mr. Tyler said the Planning Board was charged by the Town Board to look at the issue of Site Plan Review in December 1990 . Had many meetings and came up with document before the Board, with our recommendation for approval . Doesn' t apply to one or two family dwellings, accessory structures, ordinary repair/maintenance of existing structures . . . etc. [See Site Plan Review document in Town Office] . Mr. Tyler stated that this is basically to ensure that a parcel is developed in harmony with its surroundings, and get community input into that process; thus there might be something the • developer hasn' t thought of . . . and that type of input would go into this process . What Site Plan is , it is not a substitute for zoning; it 's not zoning at all . It takes a parcel that is designated for a certain use, and says OK this parcel is zoned for this , a person is going to build, say a ten unit apartment building, how is that building going to set on the site, what are the amenities going to be for parking, walking, traffic flow off �. main highway, etc. , and that is what this Site Plan Review does, it gives community input into that particular project before the building permit is issued. Most of the municipalities in Tompkins that have a building ordinance do have Site Plan Review. One is not the substitute for the other, but they work well together. This vehicle allows for the intelligent development of a permitted use on a particular parcel of land. Mr . Hogan said one of the reasons we asked the Planning Board to work on Site Plan Review was because of the ShurSave. . . if we had Site Plan Review in place. . . the lighting is a problem, access to the store is a problem. . . if we had had Site Plan Review at the time perhaps those things would have been taken care of, rather _• ® than trying to take care of them now, after the fact . Mr . Tyler continued. . , if , in this review process , the Planning Board feels it doesn' t have the expertise, we will [the Planning Board] hire, at the developers expense, a consultant on the particular issue. If the Planning Board requests the developer to hire a consultant so the PLanning Board has more information to make its decision, and if , as a result of that consultant the Board gained information and then turned the applicant down, in all fairness , the Town should take the responsibility of paying • ... F•` .. . - 'mil'. Yip. Y .. 1 .r•I I. .• • I•. r. ')l :'�.• I _I. .. I• • . .. 1 ') TOWN OF ULYSSES 4 REGULAR BOARD MEETING • July 9, 1991 • the bill for the consultant . This would be a fair balance. . . the • Planning Board would have to keep in mind that if there was a negative result , it would financially impact on the Town. We remain a volunteer Board and do not expect compensation and will continue acting as in the past . Changes suggested by Town Board as follows : • pg . 1 . . . Item 310 . 2 . . . 1. In all circumstances, construction and repair/alterations of one or two-family dwellings and ordinary accessory structures, and related land use activities. • pg. 3 . . . (top of page) b. . . Information drawn from the following Preliminary Site Plan Proposal checklist to the extent that it is • available and applicable: pg. 5. . . second paragraph. . . change 5 days to 15 days before the date of the public hearing . Mr. Tyler concurred with these changes. Hearing no further comments Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Site Plan Review. Mr. Reitz moved to approve Site Plan Review as amended and to schedule a public hearing to receive comments; seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Nay Mrs . Duddleston Aye • Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted The Town Board scheduled a public hearing for Monday, July 29, 1991 at 7 : 30 PM in the Town Hall . This will be advertised immediately in the Ithaca Journal and Trumansburg Free Press . Auble Protect Mr . Hogan stated that activity, such as grading the land, has •.. been taking place on Mr. Auble's property and asked Attorney Wilson if this presented any problem. Mr . Wilson stated that • what he is doing right now, grading the land, does not require • permits . He is not in violation at this time. Mr. Reitz asked about top soil resale, perhaps we should make him aware of Section 3, page 7 of the zoning ordinance. Mr. Wilson stated that he is not aware that is happening. Mr . Rachun said that Mr. Auble is not violating any zoning ordinance. Mr. Wilson said that if full excavation occurs then would need permits . If resale is occurring, to let him know. Mr. Hogan asked what the next step should be. Mr. Wilson said you have to fill me in on the facts . . . is he still doing what he was doing out there? Depends on what you are asking. . . if you are seeking an injunction and at this point he isn' t doing anything, there is nothing to enjoin. If you wish to pursue it as a violation of extraction of natural products , and you can establish proof of it . . . at this point I don' t see as an injunctive relief , don' t see what you would get from it . Mr . Gunn said that the acreage has been stripped. Mr. Hogan stated that it is zoned agricultural . . .we can' t order the activity to stop unless we prove there is a violation. Mrs . Raymond stated that she had photographs of the removal of dirt . . . trucks hauling dirt . Mrs . Kahn asked if this evidence could be passed on. .. � .f. . '.'WI ;pi le, TOWN OF ULYSSES S REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 9 , 1991 Mr . Reverby said the question is whether or not he has done it , . and there is evidence that has been accumulated by people outside • the Board, think it would be appropriate for the Board to adopt • in some formal way to see that evidence , evaluate what is being done. . .perhaps have Mr . Wilson evaluate it also; then if the • evidence is presented in a formal way, it 's been evaluated and people disagree. . . at this point you have Mr. Wilson saying that nothing is happening and Mrs . Raymond is saying she has evidence .' • there is . Mr . Wilson said the Zoning Enforcement Officer would be the one to take evidence and decide if a permit is required or not in this procedure. If any evidence is there it should be turned over to the Enforcement Officer. I am not aware of what is or ' isn' t going on there, I don' t stand outside the site, but if you • can establish it is violating that section you can get an . injunction. Again, it comes down to what he is doing. ° Mr. Reverby asked if the Zoning Officer receives this evidence • . what is the procedure for deciding whether there should be an injunction at that point . . . does the Zoning Officer then ask the • Town Attorney or the Board to call for an injunction; or does the • Zoning Officer himself issue the injunction? Mr. Wilson said he „ would report it to the Town Board, and they would authorize whatever court action would be needed and refer it to Council . Mr. Rachun said the Board of Zoning Appeals is the body that has the authority to issue special permits , not the Town Board. The problem is in reviewing this, I in no way consider myself an expect in handling matters of evidence as far as what is going on there. . . there is a dump truck full of sod. . . and you have a picture of that or in some way show evidence that that truck is physically moving from the site. . . I would have no idea weather that is permissible in court or not . Mr. Wilson said that first-hand knowledge of someone who is willing to testify is admissable in court , but you would have to establish what is being removed, when it was removed, how much. . . etc . Basically you would be going to court to stop the • removal , if it violates that section, because they don' t have a special permit from BZA. Mr . Weatherby stated that DEC will allow removal of up to 1000 tons without a mining permit . Mr . Hogan said then you are suggesting, if there is evidence, - then it should be turned over? Mr. Wilson said if it is good evidence, then yes , it should be turned over to Mr . Rachun to '' compile it , look at it and then report back to the Town Board . You have to have substantial evidence, prove by a preponderance, get an injunction. Mr. Reverby said if the Zoning Officer , Attorney and Town Board decide this is not sufficient evidence, would suggest that the reasons why be stated explicitly so that people who are interested can then go back and keep their eyes open and get sufficient evidence, if such exists . Mr. Hogan said if there is evidence, then it should be presented I to Mr. Rachun. That takes care of what is going on now, what we need to talk about is the petition presented to the Town Board to rezone that area. Talked to Mr . Rachun that what is going on up there changes the picture a little bit as far as SEQR is concerned. Mr. Wilson said you have a petition before you for • rezoning. . .stand by my letter of June 17 th in response to your questions . Have investigated a bit more as to what more will be required. There is no deadline that this Town Board needs to act on the rezoning request . If you do act on the petition you do it or of 2 TOWN OF ULYSSES 6 REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 9, 1991 like any other amendment to the Ordinance, have a public hearing, etc . ; and in this case , since it borders on the Village, County , you would notify the appropriate agencies . Because it is a • zoning change and in excess of 25 acres , it is a Type 1 action, • it ' s a presumptive significance as a matter of law regarding an • • Environmental Impact Statement . Mr. Reitz said that 25 acres is under SEQR review for Type 1 • action ; is that what the threshold level is? Mr . Wilson said II t there are several rules/regulations that cover it , one is Title 6 New York Codes , Rules & Regulations Section 617 . 12 subdivision B2 , that deals with any zoning change that involves in excess of 25 acres as a Type 1 action is presumptively requiring an Environmental Impact Statement . The petition clearly states that it ' s 38 . 5 acres and is intended for a zoning change. You would also have to refer to County Planning because of your requirements under the general municipal law regarding L&M. Mr. Hogan asked which comes first , the SEQR process or the public hearing. Mr . Wilson said the public hearing would come after the • SEQR which has to be considered by the lead agency which would be - the Town Board. You would have to refer it to County Planning for input and you have a time limit in which they get it back to you. You would have the input from County Planning and can set up the public hearing, but you also as lead agency simultaneously request either developer or yourself at least put in a long form, in my opinion, Environmental Assessment Form. When asking that of the petitioner, when he returns with that, if it involves more than 25 acres , then it falls under Title 1 and you would ask for a full Environmental Impact Statement . Mrs . Page asked if letters shouldn' t be sent to the Village, County to ask if they want to be an involved agency. Mr . Rachun • said an involved agency has to be an agency that is making a critical decision, or discretionary decision; if they want to be an active interested party, this is something that is normally done . Hopefully Environmental Management Council , County level and CAC on the Village level and the Village of Trumansburg would be advised of what is going on, they wouldn' t be involved agencies though because they aren' t making a discretionary action, they don' t have any authority to make a discretionary action. Mr . Wilson said that because this is a legislative action, a zoning question that changes the statute , the Board really has a lot of description how they are going to treat it . He is just petitioning, he has no vested rights . Mr. Reitz said we can then change conditions of the request? Mr . Wilson said Yes , you can - rezone what you want , less than what he is asking for , it ' s a legislative function, not the same process as a BZA or Planning Board function or special permit process . If you decide to entertain the request for rezoning then you have to go through - these variety of things . Mr . Hogan said Dave Auble and his engineer asked for a meeting with Mr . Rachun and myself to discuss the Auble Project . This was the overall concept plan. Mr. Hogan recapped for the Board. . . as part of the SEQR process , Auble said they would come up with an overall concept plan for this site and would agree to stick to that plan in principal if that would help the SEQR process . As I [Mr. Hogan] understands it , we cannot do that as a II T condition to SEQR. Mr . Rachun said the request was made by the Auble engineer to condition a negative declaration on a concept plan or small site plan; the request was basically made stating that we would be more restrictive than what would normally be for a commercial district for the Town of Ulysses . In reviewing this process , conferring with lawyers , found this is not something that would hold a lot of water in terms of testing it out in a �, . eV TOWN OF ULYSSES 7 :'.44 REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 9 , 1991 court process . If you had a conditional negative declaration and avoided an Environmental Impact Statement , and you conditioned your negative declaration on a site plan presented by George Schlek and Dave Auble, they can, if they chose to ignore the site plan, once the commercial designation was granted, the Town may have a very difficult time holding the developer to that site plan, because it is more restrictive than what we are offering now in our present Zoning Ordinance . Mr . Auble said that he is proceeding with the long form. Sounds as though Site Plan Review will be enacted on the 29th. . .so think that makes this question a moot point . Further comments and discussion ensued regarding the same line of questioning and opinion. Mr . Hogan said a tentative date has been set for a public hearing on this issue, but we can' t have the public hearing until SEQR is done. Mr. Rachun stated that he feels this is a Type 1 action. . . ten acres have already been altered, has already taken place. The August 1st date for public hearing may be too soon; haven' t received Part 1 . Mr. Rachun stated that for a SEQR process, we are using a ten acre designation. . . they call it a Type 1 action. . . and we should be able to use the same designation to do something about what he is doing up there. Mr . Wilson said the public hearing can be anytime. Mr . Hogan said we then need to hear back from the agencies , receive Part 1 from Mr. Auble. . .Mr. Rachun said if we get that information, I can get Part 2 done and then figure 30 days from that point to set a public hearing . Mr. Rachun asked Mr. Auble when Part 1 would be in and Mr. Auble said any day now. Mr. Rachun said he would let the Town Board know when he receives Part 1 and they can then meet . Water Study Mrs . Duddleston said that she spoke with Gail Zabawsky , who was unable to attend this meeting. . . thought there would be another • representative. Mr . Hogan stated that he and Mr . Reitz had attended a meeting with Jim Hensen and Bob Augenstern. . .who both indicated that monies are available. They talked with us about County funding and other funding available for water studies and construction projects; they agreed to write the grant request for us . Mr. Reitz said there are strings attached; it has to be used for economic development only, there is a cap of $150 ,000 . and application must be done by August 19, 1991; and you must have a source of water to come from before you can make this application. Mr. Reitz continued. . . if you get member initiative or other monies , the amount is taken away from the grant awarded. The monies can be used for infrastructure and some studies . Mr. Hogan said we can worry about what we use it for if we get it . Mrs . Duddleston said but we need to apply for it . . .Mr. Hogan said they are doing all that . . . they are taking care of that for us . Mr . Weatherby said you are applying for it? Mr. Reitz said No, they need more information from the Town such as where is water coming from, etc. Perhaps I misunderstood, but thought they would write for the grant if this information was provided. Mrs . Duddleston asked if the Water Committee had been involved in this at all . Mr . Reitz said they were invited to the meeting but no one attended . Mrs . Duddleston said that Committee would have most of the information needed for the application; they should certainly be involved. Discussion ensued. Mr . Hogan said that water survey , those people were suppose to compile the information on a map and get St TOWN OF ULYSSES 8 REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 9 , 1991 back to us , Mr . Reitz said that in previous minutes it was noted that Mr . Hogan was going to contact Ms . Zabawsky. Mrs . Stover stated that Jeanne Henderson had given a report to the Master Plan Committee . Was decided that Mr . Hogan would contact Gail Zabawsky . • Moore PUD There will be a public hearing on Tuesday , July 16 , 1991 at 7 :00 PM in the Town Hall . Pe.rsunnel _ Polici Mr . Hogan said that the Personnel Policy has been tabled to another meeting . Mrs . Demas asked if we would discuss the appointment of Jerry Perkins . She has called a couple of times and expressed concern that. Jerry Perkins is on both Planning • Boards and that she feels there is a conflict of interest . Mr. Reitz announced that Andy Scott resigned from the Village Planning Board, so there is now an opening on that Board. Mr . Hogan stated that Mr . Rachun has researched to see if it was illegal to have the same person on two Planning Boards . Mr . Rachun said it is not illegal . Mr . Hogan said if in fact then it is legal for him to serve both Planning Boards are there any comments from Board members regarding their feelings that this is a conflict of. interest? Mrs . Duddleston said she doesn' t feel it • is any more of a conflict for Mr . Perkins to serve two Boards than it is for Mr. Rachun to be serving both municipalities . Mr. • Reitz said he doesn' t have any problem with conflict of • interest . . .his concern would be time involvement and doesn' t seem • to be a problem. Mr . Hogan stated that he doesn' t have a problem with Mr . Perkins serving both Boards. • Pleasant Grove PUD Mr . Rachun said Mr. Gullidge has not contacted us as to where he stands . . .has been requested to do so. Tompkins County Planning has responded and stated that it is up to the Board to make the decision. Taughannock Log Homes PUD Mr . Rachun said SEQR has been done by the Planning Board, representatives from Finger Lakes Park have attended a couple of meetings . . . their fears have been allayed . Have run a chain saw and couldn' t hear it at all . Alex gave directions to the site. Minimal impact . The Parks will send a letter for the file. Would say you can set the date for the public hearing within the next thirty days . Mr. Reitz suggested waiting until the letter goes to County Planning. Mrs . Duddleston said there is a meeting • next Tuesday and can discuss a date at that time . Mr . Rachun concurred. ACC Discount Notification has been received that ACC will be putting a message on their bills regarding a 10% Sr. Citizen discount . This will involve very few people. Clerk ' s office hasn' t received any forms from ACC to apply for this discount . Mr. Hogan said we haven ' t made a determination on this . Mrs . Stover said that Marsha was going to look into the number of elderly exemptions that we might have dealt with. . .Mr . Reitz said Marsha told him approximately 50 . That means elderly exemptions , but not necessarily do they live in an area where there is cable TV. Mr . Hogan asked if we want to offer this discount or not . Mr . Reitz .• 'A; f . $ . - q e j'l • TOWN OF ULYSSES 9 REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 9 , 1991 asked if it impacted the franchise; Mr. Hogan said ACC is picking • • up the fee , will not impact on the franchise fees . We are really • talking very little dollar-wise. • Mr . Reitz moved to approve the ACC Senior Citizen Discount in the Town of Ulysses , seconded by Mrs . Stover . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Approved NEW BUSINESS • • • Bower. Cemetery Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve the request for an Eagle Scout project , proposed by Bill Overbaugh from Troop 13 , to fix Bower Cemetery, seconded by Mrs. Stover. Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Approved Mr . Hogan will contact Bill Overbaugh and let him know this has been approved. • Special Events Discussion took place regarding the ' event' taking place at the Fairgrounds . Police protection from the Village will not be • provided. Mr. Hogan will call the Sheriff ' s Department and ask for their attention during this event . Mr . Reitz expressed concern that the Town was not made aware in a • timely fashion of the scheduled concerts and suggested that in future the Fair Association notify respective agencies and municipalities of large gatherings . Mr. Hogan will write a letter to the Fair Board regarding this situation. Mr. Reitz also mentioned consideration of a Special Events Permit [based on number of people] . . .general consensus was no one is ever really sure of the numbers that will attend, many factors to consider; ie: weather. No further discussion took place. Firemen' s Parade • Mr. Reitz asked if anyone was interested in participating in the parade to be held August 23. Decided that anyone interested will contact Mr. Reitz . REPORTS Mrss .. Mount ,Truk t , Deputy Town Clerk, reported that for the month of June $1 ,189 . 50 was received of which $682 . 43 was turned over to the Supervisor. Received a thank you note from Judge Rice for the retirement reception. Highway Superintendent Absent '4 TOWN OF ULYSSES 10 REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 9 , 1991 ZQn.in9Tuildina Insp ctector Mr . Rachun reported that five permits have been issued in June. • Two new starts . co messondenae Mr . Hogan reviewed correspondence received as follows : Tompkins • County Solid Waste, Tompkins County Planning, Planned Parenthood, monthly reports from Justice Department . One other thing, understand John Ward has not been available for arraignments and will speak to him. Hearing no further business Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 11 : 30PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J . Mount Deputy Clerk 1 ti . TRUMANSBURG FIRE COMPANY SUMMARY OF RESPONSES FOR JUNE 1991 FIRE CALLS FOR JUNE 1991 Village Ulysses Covert Hector Mutual Aid 6 8 4 1 Total Fire Calls 19 Manhours in service 16 7.5 • AMBULANCE CALLS FOR JUNE 1991 • Village Ulysses Covert Hector Mutual Aid 10 8 2 1 5 (Interlaken) Total Ambulance Calls 2 6 Manhours in service 15 3.5 TOTAL CALLS 4 5 TOTAL MANHOURS IN SERVICE 3 21 TRAINING HOURS FOR JUNE 1991 MY/hours TOTAL CALLS FOR 1991 112 TOTAL MANHOURS IN SERVICE FOR 1991 1035 .75 TOTAL TRAINING HOURS FOR 1991 l �� • TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING July 9, 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Thomas Reitz , Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Paula Mount , Deputy Clerk. Others Present : Alex Rachun, Jeanne Vanderbilt , Jim & Rita Brown. Mr. Hogan, Supervisor called the Special Board Meeting of the • Town Board, Town of Ulysses to order at 7 :00 PM. Mr. Hogan indicated that the order of business is to continue review/revision of the proposed Personnel Policy. Was decided by the Board to reword, under WORK WEEK, page one, paragraph two, as follows : Class "B" employees are to receive benefits prorated at 50%. Much discussion ensued regarding different work week levels, job descriptions, and required statements that need to be included in the policy, ie: sexual harassment, EEOE statement. These statements will be considered at a future meeting. Jeanne Vanderbilt, bookkeeper, said that she can keep computations of sick, vacation and personal time earned and used. This will be accrued based on years of service, etc. , and will be submitted to the bookkeeper by the department heads . Mr. Reitz moved to table further discussion, seconded by Mrs . • • Duddleston. Unanimously approved, the Special Board Meeting adjourned at 8 :00 PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount Deputy Clerk 1 • 114, TOWN OF ULYSSES PUBLIC HEARING July 16, 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor ; Catherine Stover, Thomas Reitz , Carolyn Duddleaton, Robert Weatherby, _, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present : Alex Rachun, Budd Stover, David Auble, Harry 3 Weber . ' PURPOSE: To hear public comment on the Proposed Moore PUD. Mr . Hogan opened the public hearing at 7 :05PM. Mr . Moore was not present and had not been advised of the public hearing. Mr . Hogan asked Mr. Rachun to proceed. Mr . Rachun stated that Mr. Moore had approached the Town to ask if he could use the old • ' Foyer sales and service building for a sales and service center 4: for outboard motors . Mr. Rachun stated that all questions had • been answered, SEQR long form was used. Advised Mr. Moore to make a negative declaration since there would be no impact ' greater than before. Tompkins County Planning and Health Dept . are both involved agencies. The Town Board is lead agent . The Planning Board has submitted a packet of information along with a . description of the property and passed in onto the Town Board. ii0. Mr. Hogan asked if everything has been received that we need and Mr. Rachun said, Yes. Mr. Reitz asked if the Health Dept . had approved the septic system and Mr . Rachun said it hasn't been applied for as yet. Mr. Reitz asked if we could make that . contingent, that he has an approved permit for a septic. No problem if he hires people and then has to have bathroom .. facilities . . .Mr. Rachun said the key issues the Planning Board dealt with was waste oil and water and the fact that there are floor drains . . .has core fill floor drains . There is a receiver who periodically comes in and picks up by-products along with the • water. Mr. Reitz asked if there was a legal description of the PUD? After much discussion it was determined that there was no legal description of the PUD and will have to ask for one. In reviewing the map, determined that the PUD requested is under three acres; need three acres for a PUD. Decided to ask for a legal description and a statement that the request is for three acres . Shouldn' t have any problem since there is plenty of land; . • need about 100 more feet . Mr. Hogan asked if there was public comment . • Mr. M. Budd Stover commented in favor of this PUD. Mr. Weber reiterated Mr. Stover's comments. a Mr. Rachun will call Mr. Moore this evening to clear up the question of the legal description and the PUD not being three acres . . Hearing no further comments Mr. Hogan closed the public hearing at 7 : 45 pm. . • Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm 161 TOWN OP ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING July 16, 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; + • Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present : David Auble, Alex Rachun, Harry Weber, Elsie • Vann, Winnie Baker, Budd Stover, George Patte. PURPOSE: Spruce Row Campgrounds. Mr. Hogan opened the Special Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses at 7 : 45pm. Need to resolve the density issue, how many campsites are a reasonable number, before we start the SEQR process . ® Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Weber what number he would like to see exist there and Mr. Weber commented what is there now. . . the existing zoning which allows for a maximum, under State requirements, of 2500 campsites . Mr. Hogan asked if that was reasonable and Mr. Weber said it has been that zoning since 1970 . I didn't want to see it reduced, no reason for it. • Mr. Hogan asked the Board what they felt was a reasonable number of sites . . .Mr. Weber asked Mr. Hogan the number he felt, why do you feel it should be reduced. . .the Town started this thing. Mr. Hogan said he put himself in the position of a neighbor down • there. . .have a nice operation, 182 sites, the traffic isn' t bad now. . .if I was a neighbor there I wouldn' t be too concerned if the number doubled; but if someone told me they were going to put in a thousand or more campsites, then I would be concerned. Mr. Weber commented that he hasn't said that. Don' t have any plans . Have talked with my immediate neighbors and none of them have any • concerns . Mr. Hogan said he wants to get this resolved, have spent a lot of time and money on this . . . just need to set density. Mr. Reitz asked if Mr. Hogan wanted a number or a formula. Mr. Hogan said believe you will need a number in order to issue SEQR documents. Mr. Weber said that Mr. Reitz had made calculations at one time and came up with 619 sites. Mr. Reitz asked Mr. Rachun for his opinion. Mr. Rachun said need a threshold somewhere. Guess don' t understand the formula concept . Mr. Reitz said a formula can also include things such as swimming pool , store (things that won' t be duplicated) . Mr. Rachun said you can create a formula and then come up with a number which is what the lead agency should do. Mr. Weber asked why it has to go to SEQR. Mr. Rachun said the main issue is the area not in the PUD presently. Including the pond and house changes the description of the PUD. If the Town doesn't go through SEQR would have a problem. It is required. Mr. Hogan said we are trying to straighten out problems that should have been resolved long ago; trying to rewrite the PUD to meet what is happening there, so that it is clearly defined. Mr . Weber said he would like to get this resolved, has been two and a half years. Don't have very fond feeling for this Town as it stands now, due to the fact of what has been going on and think the sentiment of a lot of other business people, expressed to me, mirrors that . Not doing anybody any good, just want -to get it IIIover with. Mr. Rachun said in fairness to the Town, don't think I ever met you prior to this . . . the response to any zoning issue down there MSS .. r Town of Ulysses ' 2 Special Board Meeting July 16 , 1991 was on a complaint basis , you are faulting the Town for that . We have to be fair to everyone in Town, if people feel they are being grieved, we have to answer that , and once we started reading through this development district, it was very poorly put together. Mr. Hogan said the final issue is density. All other issues have been resolved. Mr. Weber said he isn' t happy with some of the other issues you say have been resolved. Mr. Hogan asked if Mr. Weber would like the whole thing to be dropped and just site him for the violations? Mr. Weber said he wants it resolved. If you wanted to site me for violations could have done that three years ago. Mr. Hogan said we are trying to be reasonable. Mr. Weber said what you think is reasonable and what I think is reasonable are two different things . . .want this resolved, that 's why I 'm here . I don' t plan on doing a lot of expansion. . . told you that up front ; but I resent the fact that the Town comes in and makes these changes . What I would like to do is come to some kind of agreement with the Board and put it to a public hearing and decide it once and for all . Mr. Hogan said we basically went through the Planning Board recommendations . There were eleven areas and we discussed each of those items and the only one we couldn't resolve was the density issue. Mr. Weber asked if Mr. Hogan was referring to the list of 5/90? Thought the list was going to be retyped and would go over that tonight . Mr. Hogan said this is the document we worked on, 5/90, and only issue left was density, Item 3 . Mr. - Weber said he knew that all these items had been discussed but didn't realize that they had been resolved. Mr. Hogan asked which items Mr. Weber questioned. Mr. Weber said he doesn't want to plant more trees, another item is the park model issue. Mr. Hogan said we have already voted on III that; Mr. Reitz said we have reached a general consensus that can be presented to the public, haven' t voted. Mr. Reitz continued. . .then Harry your first concern is Item 11A & B? Mr. Weber said it is duplicated from Item 4B & C. One hedgerow they are talking about already has trees . I agreed to put evergreens up in the front of the property. After discussion and reviewing the map of Spruce Row the following changes were made to the PUD Spruce Row Campgrounds document : Item #4 - Specifications for Campsites - delete (a) entirely because sites are not defined. Changes in (b) delete "From the current driveway, east, " through "by 12/1/90" . Delete in (c) "This hedgerow is to be interplanted. . . through 12/1/90" . Item #11 - Buffers - Change (a) delete "10 ft north of the boundaries of the existing miniature golf", ADD "approximately 40 ' from the centerline of the road in line with the current tree line" . Rest to remain the same. Delete "This is to be. . .by • 12/1/90" . Change (b) delete "to be accomplished by 12/1/90" . Mr . Patte, regarding Item 4a - does seem reasonable for the new sites that might be developed there, whatever number is agreed upon, there ought to be a minimum distance. Mr. Hogan said the State regulations say 2500 ' are required. Mr. Patte added, going back to what the Planning Board did, and the intent of this 4a was to have a buffer; 2500 sq. ft. is something like 50x50 ; believe it was the Planning Boards intent was to have r .... . . . r t ` e Town of Ulysses 3 Special Board Meeting July 16 , 1991 a buffer between that 50x50 space, so there is 50 ' from one boundary to the start of the next one; and should be set forth, • that each of those 50x50 sites, as near as reasonable, with a • buffer between them. You are talking another 30 or 40 acres there, you can have another 900 sites in there. The number is • astronomical . Think the Planning Board was indeed thinking about what is reasonable; for the campers , usage, the neighborhood, traffic and everything that goes with it . They were trying to • say you can't designate what 50' you are talking about . Mr . Weber said the Planning Board did not address that at all , that wording is exactly what has been there. Mr. Hogan said the problem is that we are trying to create a document that the Zoning Officer can enforce. . .Mr. Patte said perhaps if you draw out sites with a 50/50 area, so you know what you have. Mr. Hogan said we hope to come up with a number. Mr. Patte said if you do that it will be inconsistent with what you • have now; 2500 sq. ft . is a minimum, are you suggesting that • • somewhere else you are going to say the maximum number is X. Mr. Reitz said we haven't done that yet. Mr. Weber said he has indicated at previous meetings that he would limit it to 550 total , and still feels that way. Mr . Reitz, using his formula (and derived from the Planning. Board recommendations) came up with an additional 191 sites for a total of 372 sites. Mr. Hogan said need to compromise between the 372 and 550 . Discussion took place regarding number of campsites. Mr. Hogan said that between 400-425 sounded reasonable to him. Mr. Reitz agreed. Mr. Hogan said this would allow the number of sites to more than double. Mr. Weber asked if the Board and the neighbors would rather see him go with the existing. . .have tried to make it a family campground, seasonal campers , etc. , I could have easily marketed it as an overnight campsite like a lot of large campgrounds . . .not doing that . That is why I feel 550 is a reasonable number. Mr. Hogan said no one is questioning that you run a good operation, • just saying that if I were a neighbor, I would have concerns about the number of campsites . Mrs. Baker said that they know Mr. Weber runs a good campsite, it's just the number of people in the area we are concerned about. Mr. Hogan said the Planning Board has recommended 372 , • you, Mr. Weber are saying you'd be happy with 550, how about 425 as a compromise? Mr. Patte stated that we don't know the impact of doubling the number will be, the noise, etc. , why not setting a reasonable limit for the next year, two years, five years and leaving it that way. Harry by his own admission is not talking about doubling it in the foreseeable future and understand why he wouldn' t want to come back; but what is wrong with a periodic every five years. . . .doesn't provide a definite answer or maximum but it doesn' t tie you into looking foolish and "Oh my God, why did we do that back in 1991". • Ill Mr. Hogan said we need a number for SEQR. Mrs . Crass asked what is wrong with the Planning Board recommendation. Mr. Hogan said we are trying to compromise. . .have a lot of other business to attend to and have spent more than enough time on this issue. Mr. Reitz moved that the Town Board consider 425 as the maximum • number of sites at Spruce Row Campsite, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Weatherby asked, this number is just to present to the public Town of Ulysses 1 4 Special Board Meeting July 16, 1991 hearing. . .Mr. Hogan agreed, the final vote on this does not occur until after the public hearing. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Change: Item #3 - Area and Density of District - second paragraph .. under Density: The number of campsites in the district is to be the same density as the developed campground is developed today with 425 sites. Mr. Rachun cautioned. . . it is beneficial to make these changes as minimal as possible, and come up with anything you need to now, this is submitted to the County and they make a judgment. Mr. Weber asked time schedule here. . .Mr. Reitz said we will set a public hearing at our next Regular Town Board Meeting. Mr. Rachun said we need thirty days for County . . .although the last one only took ten days . Will work on this and get Part 1 done and get it out on Monday . Hearing no further business the Special Board meeting was adjourned at 9:35pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Pm - TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING • July 16, 1991 . PRESENT: William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine • Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. • Others Present: Alex Rachun, Zoning/Building Insp. ; David Auble, 1 Gene Moore and wife. . • • PURPOSE: Moore PUD Request Mr. Hogan opened the Special Board meeting at 9: 40pm. . Mr. Hogan stated that Mr. David Auble was here to request a • Public Hearing on the request submitted to the Town Board for re- ,, zoning the William Auble property. • Mr. David Auble stated that he had finished part I of SEQR and would present that to Mr. Rachun tho following day. The Town Board discussed having the Planning Board review this •. SEQR form along with the Town Board and Mr. Rachun. Mr. Rachun will be doing part iI of this form. • A Joint Meeting was scheduled for July 30th at 6:30 pm at the Town Hall 10 Elm Street , Trumansburg, Ny to review the • application for re-zoning and the part I of SEQR. The Town Clerk will send out the notices and provide the necessary copies for • the members of the Planning Board and the Town Board. Discussion followed to who part I would go to for review. Mr. Moore arrived. The Board discussed with Mr. Moore the need of a legal description and the fact that the sketch of the map that he previously provided was not 3 acres. Mr. Reitz moved that the Town Board declare a negative . , ill declaration under SEQR on the Moore request for a PUD on Dubois Road, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mrs. Duddleston aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted • • Mr. Reitz moved that the Moore PUD, as presented to the Town Board by the Planning Board, be approved conditional upon a legal description of the property, including a minimum of three acres . No second was offered. Mrs. Georgia asked for clarification on what the Planning Board • Shad presented, so that she had something to publish and post. • After much discussion of how the PUD should read and how the legal description should be published, seeing that there was no real defined measurements, it was decided to table the issue and . _ . . .^•� : �L'.. . � ,`' :. a . . . is , Town of Ulysses 1 2 Special Board Meeting 7/16/91 Alex would help Mr. Moore come up with good defined boundaries of the PUD and Mr. Hogan would review the minutes of the Planning Board to extract the guidelines that the Planning Board turned over to the Town Board. The Special Board Meeting was adjourned until Thursday July 18th, 1991, at 5 : 30 pm. • Mr. Reitz asked Mr. Hogan to contact Town Attorney Bruce Wilson •- for an opinion of the wording in the Zoning Ordinance on boundaries and what legally they should be requesting from PUD applicants. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn this meeting until July 18th at 5 : 30pm. Moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Stover. - Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye ' Mrs. Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Mr. Weatherby aye , Adopted Meeting adjourned at 10:35pm.. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk Mg r • x .J. le 7 TOWN OF ULYSSES • •• ADJOURNED SPECIAL BOARD MEETING July 18, 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, • Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. • Others Present : Alex Rachun, Zoning/Building Insp. ; Gene Moore •• and wife. PURPOSE: Moore PUD Request/Development District #19 Mr. Hogan opened the Adjourned Special Board meeting at 5 :30pm, and stated that we are meeting to act on the Moore PUD. Questions we had at the last meeting was an accurate description of the property and the written specifications for the project . ® We now have that in front of us . Spoke with Town Attorney today concerning Section 5, Item G1 . Was told it was better to have the degree from a survey map, but if you don' t have that if you • have a good starting point, you are all right. Alex felt that we had a good starting point on this one, and we are OK. Mr. Reitz said I have penciled in to change 250 ' southerly, parallel to DuBois Rd . was changed to 309' , is that correct? Mr. Rachun said yes , 309' is correct . Also went from 542' to 600 ' back; that gave you enough? Mr. Rachun said yes . Mr. Hogan said it is 3.14+ or minus acres. Mr. Rachun said it is a bit more than that . Mr. Reitz asked about the well and septic. . .have you considered [re: well ] requesting a hook-up to the Town of Ithaca? Mr. Moore said he hadn't. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover to approve the Moore PUD/Development District #19 as • presented as follows: The Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses , adopted April 8, 1978 , is hereby amended to create Development District ' Ill No. 19. 1. This district shall be known as Development District 19. 2 . The purpose of which said district may be used is : Sales • and service of small marine motors and accessories . 3 . Area of district: Beginning at an iron pin set near the easterly road line of Dubois Road 30 feet north of center line of creek culvert which defines •the southwest border of tax parcel 32-2-8 . 2 and continuing northerly 184 feet along the center line of Dubois Road to an iron pin along the easterly road line of Dubois Road; then continuing 200 feet easterly and perpendicular to Dubois Road to an iron pin; then continuing 125 feet northerly and parallel to Dubois Road to an iron pin; running thence 380 feet easterly and perpendicular to Dubois Road to an iron pin; then continuing • 309 feet southerly and parallel to Dubois Road to an iron pin; and thence returning 600 feet westerly and perpendicular to Dubois Road to the iron pin marking the point in place of beginning; conveying 3/14+/- acres. 4 . Specifications of said district: Ill A.Existing building to be used for business. No new buildings. Well and septic to be installed according to Tompkins County Health Department requirements . B.Business hours from 8: 30a.m. to 5:30p.m. Monday through Friday, 8 : 30a.m. to 3:00p.m. Saturdays, and 9:00a.m. to noon on Sundays . Most repairs will be done during weekdays, repairs after 5:00p.m. will be done ,. •y i ,•. ... n . ... Ic ' ) , .. } .. r... `t.� r,,.,err :.i . ... I' .. ."F � . 4 Town of Ulysses 0' 2 • Adjourned Special Board Meeting July 18, 1991 • inside building. C.Customer parking will be in front of building, up to six cars . Parking lot area to be 40' deep by 50 ' wide centered in front of building. D. Storage - 15-20 boats parked on north side of building for purpose of waiting to be picked up or • worked on. Inside storage 10-15 boats. Winter storage outside for 5 boats maximum. E. Stockade fence (up to 6' high) to be installed on north side of building along boundary line of development district . F. Improvements to building and grounds : roof to be painted, trim to be painted, area around building to be • kept clean" with no outside storage other than boats " - • with/without motors and trailers . G.Signs: One lighted sign on front of building, 3' x 5' • plastic face. \; H.Lighting: One pair of floodlights on each side of building. Lighting to be cast in a downward direction so as not to constitute a hazard to drivers and • annoyance to neighbors. • I .Landscaping: Ten pine trees to be planted on South side boundary line of development district . J.All existing floor drains within the building to be core filled with appropriate concrete material . All existing drains exiting building shall be removed. K.Used gear lube and motor oil will be stored in a 250 gallon tank. Tank to be pump when filled by an authorized handler of petroleum waste material . There • shall be no liquid or solid waste disposal on property other than that authorized by the Tompkins County Health Department . L.Without further amendment of the zoning ordinance, no other structures other than the existing structure shall be allowed. 5 . This amendment shall be in effect upon adoption and publication as provided by law. • Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye • Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan stated that a date for a public hearing for Taughannock Log Homes needs to be set. Tuesday, August 6 at 6: 30p.m. was agreed upon. SEQR has been done, and Mr. Rachun said we are ready to go. Will notify area owners . • Hearing no further business, Mr. Hogan moved to adjourn the • meeting, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. Unanimously approved the • meeting adjourned at 6:10p.m. Respectfully submitted, Marsha Georgia Town Clerk Pm • Town of Ulysseu 2 ' Adjourned Special Board Meeting July 18, 1991 inside building. C.customer parking will be in front of building, up to six cars . Parking lot area to be 40 ' deep by 50 ' wide • centered in front of building. D. Storage - 15-20 boats parked on north side of building for purpose of waiting to be picked up or • worked on. Inside storage 10-15 boats. Winter storage outside for 5 boats maximum. • E.Stockado fence (up to 6' high) to be installed on north side of building along boundary line of development district . F. Improvements to building and grounds: roof to be painted, trim to be painted, area around building to be • kept clean with no outside storage other than boats with/without motors and trailers. G.Signs: One lighted sign on front of building, 3' x 5 ' plastic face. H.Lighting: One pair of floodlights on each side of • • building. Lighting to be cast in a downward direction so as not to constitute a hazard to drivers and • annoyance to neighbors. I .Landscaping: Ten pine trees to be planted on South side boundary line of development district. J,All existing floor drains within the building to be core filled with appropriate concrete material . All • _ existing drains exiting building shall be removed. K.Used gear lube and motor oil will be stored in a 250 ' gallon tank. Tank to be pump when filled by an authorized handler of petroleum waste material . There shall be no liquid or solid waste disposal on property • other than that authorized by the Tompkins County Health Department. - • L.Without further amendment of the zoning ordinance, no other structures other than the existing structure shall be allowed. 5 . This amendment shall be in effect upon adoption and publication as provided by law. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye . Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan stated that a date for a public hearing for Taughannock Log Humes needs to be set . Tuesday, August 6 at 6: 30p.m. was agreed upon. SEQR has been done, and Mr. Rachun said we are . ready to go. Will notify area owners . Hearing no further business, Mr. Hogan moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 6: 10p.m. Respectfully submitted, • Marsha Georgia Town Clerk pm }... :'t �, �'..,,•.SF, .L :a...j rr, �.r,<'i• n .+ ice '+. u,�.... '..,. �' .. ? ! ' i:'. f.'. Sid' Joint Village/Town Board Meeting July 24, 1991 'r The Village of Trumansburg and Town of Ulysses Boards met: Jointly on Wednesday, July 24, 1991 at the Village Meeting Room, 56 E. Main St . , Trumansburg, New York Present : Mayor Thomas Bennett , Village Trustees: Bill Griswold, • Peter Meskill , Karl Zylich, John Rogers, Police Chief Tom Ferretti . Town Councilpersons: Tom Reitz and Catherine Stover Citizens: Lawrence ReverbY Recording Minutes: Sharon Housworth, Village Clerk ", The Village Board of Trustees met at 6:45 PM. Mayor Bennett presented a MOTION seconded by Trustee Griswold to enter into executive session to discuss a personnel matter at 6: 50 PM. No action taken. Trustee Meskill presented a MOTION ._t seconded by Trustee Griswold to enter into the joint village/town board meeting at 7 :40 PM Mayor Bennett asked Councilperson Tom Reitz to update the • • Village regarding the Auble Property. Councilperson Reitz stated that Bill Auble has filed a petition to have 38. 5 acres rezoned as business in the town. Mr. • ` Auble has applied for the State Environment Quality Review ' (SEOR) , Part I and Part II action. The Town tentatively plans to hold a public hearing the first week of September on this action. The excavation work on the Auble property is deemed by the • town' s attorney as being within the premise of use; as long as he . .• is not selling the soil, he is within the regulations. Trustee • Meskill stated he thought he was selling topsoil . Councilperson 11 Reitz stated Mr. Auble has asked for a special permit to sell topsoil from the zoning officer. Councilperson Reitz continued: the town board and planning board have a joint meeting on July 30th to discuss the rezoning - issue. One of the interesting facts that came out at the last town meeting with the town attorney was, we (town) are able to restrict or reduce the amount of acreage he has requested for a business district. Trustee Meskill asked if the Town' s Master Plan was finished. Councilperson Stover stated if would take about 18 months; it was started in February. Trustee Meskill stated he would like the Town to wait on any decision to rezone the Auble property until the village has their rezoning regulations completed. Councilperson Reitz stated the SEOR action requires a 20 year plan; Auble has to decide what will happen in a 20 years time plan. Trustee Meskill stated that a Planned Unit Development (PUD) is the only way to go with the Auble development. This was requested of the village when the annexation petition was filed. tThis takes in the land inside end outside of the village. There would be control as to what goes on that parcel ; be it business, residential or commercial. Trustee Griswold asked what the Town will do now; Councilperson Reitz stated the Town will meet with the Planning Board on July 30th. Because of the requirement of SEOR, they have to wait 30 days for County Planning Board, County Health Dept . and other involved agencies to have input into the system. After that time they will have a public hearing. I . . . �i. i•. .. ire..'.' .dL�� ✓.. .. '.". . 'f'..t. +rai'. .yA ... `' .t:..,. y.•%r4 r' .. ...':w. ':.n�•y ( 79 Joint Village/Town Board Meeting July 24 , 1991 Discussion continued with Councilperson Stover regarding the . Town' s Master Plan which they are still working on. She asked if •. the village has finished their master plan; Trustee Meskill • stated the Village has not received a copy of the Village' s . . Master Plan. Discussion continued regarding the village and town working together and properties that may be affected. • Trustee Meskill asked Councilperson Reitz to report back to the Village on August 12th regarding the Town Board and Planning Board Meeting on July 30th. Councilperson Reitz asked to see a copy of the Village' s Site Plan Review. Item 2: Village/Town Police Protection Trustee Meskill stated the village police are not allowed to go onto the fairground unless requested by the Sheriff Department . Trustee Meskill stated Chief Ferretti had previously asked . permission from the Village and Town to patrol just outside the . village limits at the north and south ends. Councilperson Reitz stated that the whole town would have to • be covered not just part of the town. . Trustee Griswold stated the village incurred additional expenses because of the Festival and probably will with the Fair and Woodcutters Show. The village benefits from this but also this is additional expense for property located outside the village. .. Councilperson Reitz stated that the Town and Village both have annual events. There is a breakdown in communication for the special events regarding parking, traffic controls etc. Perhaps a special event permit could be instituted with no cost . Discussion continued regarding police protection for events just outside the village namely the fairground. A written contract could be set up on a trial basis. It would be the Town' s decision what kind of protection and amount of protection. Trustee Meskill suggested the Town Board discuss this at their regular meeting August 13th; and get a feeling from the Board members regarding police protection; a written contract • between the Town and Village. This would not allow them (police) on the fairground; only if they are requested by the Sheriff Dept. ; they would patrol outside; streets etc. It was suggested the Town and Village could set up a joint special event committee. Item 3 (zoning/planning update) was discussed previously. Item 4 : Recycle Center Mayor Bennett stated that people are bringing their garbage 0 (non recyclable items) at the recycle and leaving it there. Councilperson Reitz stated several residents complained that the ground is uneven. It was suggested to put down gravel and grade it off . Mayor Bennett stated the dumpster will be removed during fair week and different dumpster will be put in. Tt was stated the dumpster will be removed August 24th and September 7th. I 7I' Joint Villn' e/Town Board Meeting •. July 24, 1991 • Councilperson Stover suggested o sign he put up to notify residents of the closing. Item 5: UYU Summer Recreation Program Trustee Meskill stated that the Town and Village will meet in September with the Joint Youth Commission and summer . recreation program to review the programs and hopefully have an • understanding of how the programs are run. • Councilperson Reitz stated the Town has a budget for summer recreation program of $5, 000 and Joint Youth Commission is $12, 144. Trustee Meskill suggested the Village could possibly budget for the summer recreation program and the Town budget for the a• JYC; it would be separate programs and less confusing when distributing monies. Councilperson Reitz stated that the Town had two request for PUD which were granted. One was on DuBoise Rd. (previously . Poyer' s Orchard) - Moore' s Outboard Motors which was located in the City of Ithaca on Willow Ave. The other was for Taughannock Log Homes off Jacksonville Rd and Pork Road (gravel pit) . They will assemble log homes. Trustee Meskill asked Councilperson Reitz if anything has been done for a PUD request at the old Andree property just south of Jacksonville. Councilperson Reitz stated it is on hold; certain documents have not been filed with the Town. Trustee Meskill asked how much land was there. It was reported 11 acres. Trustee Meskill stated he hopes people are not using the 4 Town' s PUD as spot zoning and create a strip effect . Councilperson Reitz stated this is happening. Trustee Meskill suggested the Town increase the amount of acreage for a PUD. The Boards set a joint village/town meeting for September 18, 1991 at the Village meeting room at 7 :30 PM. Tom Reitz • stated he would notify Marsha Georgia (Town Clerk) to take • minutes. A MOTION was presented by Trustee Meskill seconded by • Trustee Zylich to adjourn meeting. Unanimously carried. Meeting adjourned at 9:25 PM. Respectfully submitted, Sharon Housworth ' Village Clerk P .. ... .1.. .y,Cad ' 'aT{Y:�},' :.l.. �.a•. {�•• ,i•i:}'c•; "t.l '+t'.1 •?': r. r.yt',-., .... '.�..{. .i , •1.: 1, : , M�.. e . . .. ,. Lh l,'... . • 0 ;.' : ,y1:. r A • • .�j..d 1 ? 1 TOWN OF ULYSSES • PUBLIC HEARING SITE PLAN REVIEW July 29 , 1991 • Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk; Paula Mount , Deputy Clerk; Alex Rachun, Zoning/Building; David Tyler, Chair . Planning Board. Others Present : See attached signatures . Purpose: To hear public comment on Site Plan Review. Mr . Hogan, Town of Ulysses Supervisor, opened the public hearing at 7 : 30 pm. Mrs. Georgia read the legal notice as published in the Ithaca Journal and Trumansburg FreePress . Mrs . Georgia read letters from the following, in favor of Site Plan Review: Marion Boratynski , Christopher Gunn, Hazel Dayton Gunn, Madeline Lutz , Alfred Kahn. Mrs . Georgia read a letter from GunBlack, Inc. President Frank Kempf Jr. who opposed Site Plan Review. David Tyler, Ulysses Planning Board Chairman was introduced and asked to give an overview of Site Plan Review . David Tyler: Distributed copies of Section 274A of Town Law which provides for authorization of Site Plan Review. Read excerpts from a chapter on Site Plan Review, prepared by the NYS Planning Federation, which may help those of you who are not familiar with what Site Plan is, because some of the petitions i have seen around I sense there is a lot of fear. It is not intended to be hostile, or anti-growth or anti-business, it is suppose to help us do it in an orderly fashion. That is the whole purpose of the thing. I will read this and these are the words of the professionals who work in planning in Albany. . .might be helpful , give everyone a picture of what it is . Mr. Tyler read as follows : We have all had the experience at one time or another , the drive-in window at the bank or restaurant is busy and a line of cars extends to the end of the driveway and then down the street; or the exit from the shopping center is located so it is difficult to see approaching traffic, or the design of a new fast food franchise is a jarring note in a neighborhood in which it is located. Site Plan approval is a particularly effective way to insure that new development occurs and will not adversely effect important municipal planning and development goals . It is a flexible regulatory technique that can greatly improve the quality of development . Certain kinds of uses , although they are allowed by zoning in a particular district, can cause major problems if attention is not paid to how or where they are situated on the parcel of land. Site Plan Review is not zoning . . . take a parcel that is zoned commercial , for instance, and someone comes in and applies to put a building there, it reviews how all that is going to fit in with the neighborhood. Such problems , for example, include the lack of screening or vegetation of a type to sufficiently protect adjacent properties • from the effects of the new use. Or location of drive up windows • for traffic to and from that causes a safety problem for pedestrians , parked cars or other traffic. Or the placement of a sign so that it could block views for traffic leaving a site. - Often Site Plan approval is used to insure that new development will be in harmony with the character of the area in which it is located, or that important resources will be protected. For example, if a community planning objectives call for protecting the small scale rural character of the community, but also calls for encouraging retail commercial uses, Site Plan approval can • Town of Ulysses 119 2 1 Public Hearing/site Plan Review July 29 , 1991 address such factors as exterior design, sign size, requiring • parking be at the rear of a structure, and so forth. Or it may be used to protect views or significant site features such as • trees , ravines or historic areas . • Mr . Tyler said he thinks that is one of the concerns in this community and we want to see it evolve in such a way that it A, doesn' t clash. . . so that it is a place that we all enjoy living and so forth. Finally, Site Plan approval is not a substitute for zoning and is not zoning. I think it is fair to say that the Planning Board, as we were working on this , wanted to have • something that would work quickly. . . I think that I heard some concern from people that this would be a long involved process . and that is not the intent at all . The intent is to have it be able to occur quickly so that a person who wants to do something can get on with it . That was the intent that we had as we looked it over. Heard someone say that the 45 day period sounded • excessive, and really the Planning Board's intent is not to use that 45 days , that is just for very complex type of application , that would be the maximum. That period of time may sound excessive, but the intent is not to use the 45 days , that is just a maximum in case of a very complex type of application. Think this gives you a little bit of an overview of what site Plan Review is . Are there any questions before we continue on? . Thank you. hr. Hogan - If you wish to comment, we ask that you give your name . Will now start with public comment . Paula Horrigan - In favor. Dennis Rodabaugh - Against . • Larry Thompson —Against . • Beach Stover - Strongly opposed. Harry Weber - Against . • Christopher Gunn - In favor. Chris Wohlever - In favor. Dan Hotelling - Against. Russell Hamilton - Against. Al Rand - Against . • Stan Koskinen - Against . Larry Reverby - In favor. Lou Jansen - Against. Lou Foley - In favor. Dan Smith - Against . Olive Marvin - Against . Charles Harrington - Against . Ed Wolfe - In favor. Budd Stover - Strongly opposed. Dorothy Sellers - In favor. Town of Ulysses 3 Public Hearing/Site Plan Review July 29, 1991 William Smith - Strongly opposed. Jim Heroux - Opposed. David Kline - Opposed. Jerry Perkins - Opposed. Peter Kahn - Strongly in favor. William Smith - On record that served on Town Board for 12 years . Steve Marvin - Opposed. Ellen Huith - In favor. Rosalie Crass - In favor. Alison Pritts - In favor. Lillian Parker - Opposed. • Julie Holmes - Against. Jim Scott - Strongly opposed. Larry Thompson handed in petitions to the Town Board with 241 signatures in opposition to Site Plan. Al Capista - In favor of concept . Hearing no further public comment , Mr. Hogan closed the public hearing at 8:55 pm. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount Deputy clerk • TOWN OF ULYSSES ' • JOINT TOWN BOARD/PLANNING BOARD July 30 , 1991 • PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Town Board Members , Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Robert. Weatherby ; Chairmen PH David Tyler;Planning Board Members , Gerald Perkins , Geraldine Keil , Seville Reulein, M. Budd Stover ; • Zoning/Building Inspector, Alex Rachun; Town Clerk , • Marsha Georgia. Others Present : Carla Pelkie, Bill Auble, Frank Auble , Glen • Chase, David Auble, George Schleoht , Larry Reverby , Andrew Scott , Planning Board of the Village . Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 pm. Carla Pelkie asked the Board to allow her to present a change in a PUD at 1608 Trumansburg Road, Ithaca, NY. Former use of the • John Deere Dealership. Ms. Pelkie would like to change the use of that PUD to her business which is Sleeping Bears Futon, There • would be no changes to the building or the size of the PUD . It would be for retail of futons and light manufacturing of futons . • Mr . Hogan asked Alex if he felt if everything was in order to be presented to the Planning Board for review. Alex stated that it would be an amendment to the existing PUD only to revise the activity and felt that the boundaries of the existing PUD could • be used and just change the activity. • Mr. Reitz stated for the record - "point of order that this • meeting was a Joint Town Board and Planning Board meeting to discuss Auble rezoning application and the SEQR part I review" . Alex felt that a presentation of a PUD change could be done at • • any meeting of the Town Board. Mr . Reitz disagreed and stated that this is a joint meeting to discuss other issues - the PUD request has to be presented at a regular Town Board Meeting, the next one being August 13 , 1991 . Mr. Hogan accepted the PUD request to be held for the Regular Town Board Meeting. Mr. Hogan stated that tonight is to talk about where we are with the request for rezoning of Auble property. We have asked the Planning Board to give us some thought and meet here with us . Mr . Hogan turned the meeting over to Mr. David Auble. Mr. D. Auble started off with stating that they would basically like to have both boards review the EAF for the rezoning. We know that the planning board/town board has been acquainted with the proposed project - we know that it is difficult to kept the • , two issues separate and essentially impossible to kept them separate, therefore I get the impression that it 's a little difficult to process the EAF on strictly rezoning basis so that is something that has to be dealt with here. Mr . Hogan asked if that was true. • Mr . D. Auble stated that in addition to that we know this is part of the SEQR process , we feel that we have more than adequately prepared for the requirements of SEQR and have gone beyond in some extent . We have been working pretty thoroughly on a traffic study and other requirements that go along with Site Plan Review and we been working with the County and we intend to continue • • TOkt1 OF ULYSSES , 2 Joint Town Board/Planning 7/30/91 • working with the County on issues that are of concern. We of course would like to have the Board set a time for a Public • Hearing. Mr . Schlecht added that as we start to go through part 1 of EAF you will appreciate the dilemma that we all face. The form is set up to fit a particle project . It fits very nicely if you have a project , subdivision, apartment house, etc . The form does not work very well with the case at hand which is rezoning request because it asks specific type questions which are very difficult to answer unless you have a specific type project . So • what we've tried to do was to answer those questions, projecting as you will into the future what you might or could be expected over a twenty year time in a business zone and we drew up some site concept plans to see what would fit in there reasonably or the projections for a reasonable twenty year growth. Than we tried answering the questions on the EAF more specifically and positive. You can feel free to disagree with that philosophy. There is no mandated right way to do this fortunately. It really is a process that goes on between the board and in this case, the applicant . That was what the EAF was based on. We've worked with Alex on this and the County on it as well . We expect to make changes so both the Town and the County is going to be happy in a process that really does not have any strict rules/recipe. it is a tough situation for all of us to be in because again the zoning request , type request does not fit nicely into the process . Mr . Rachun stated that there are two ways of looking at this, one is strictly a zoning change and at a later date if there is a discretionary action to be taken as a site plan or a project etc. Segmenting the SEQR request - the SEQR overview- segmenting it into two different areas . The first being strictly a zoning change and looking at it as such. You can do it possibly with a concept plan, but a concept plan is not in granite. These guys have to go out and find tenants and they have to come back and • look at what they've got . It is not a site plan we are looking at but a zoning change. Alex stated that his personal preference would be to look at it as a zoning change and strictly do what ever limited amount on SEQR we can do on a zoning change and at a later date, with site plan in place look at it as the project goes along, because after talking with EMC, the County, the Town Attorney, the Association of Towns etc. for hours I am back to this area -- no one -- this is a difficult application--SEQR was not intended for this kind of thing. Mr . Tyler, Chairman Planning asked if you do it as strictly as a zoning change it would be fairly straight forward. • Mr. Rachun said yes it is very straight forward as a zoning change --basically as a zoning change. Mr. Tyler - they would have to do SEQR a second time if there was • site plan in place. Mr. Reitz asked if site plan review is never passed when does SEQR fit into the action of the zoning change. Mr. Tyler - it doesn' t . Mr. Rachun - after the zoning change, after the negative declaration, if that' s the case on the zoning change, then that is it . The Town is no longer involved in the process/project in any way other than issuing a building permit when the request comes in. Mr. Hogan asked that in his opinion would this be a negative declaration. • TOWN OF ULYSSES I7 " 3 Joint Town Board/Planning 7/30/91 Mr . Rachun - my opinion as a zoning change that would be the only way to look at it . Mr . Reitz - asked for him to clarify that - - in part he would . disagree -- it is a major potential renovation in the area . Mr . Rachun stated that he agrees one hundred percent , but we do not have any thing to base that on. Mr . Hogan - if it is strictly a zoning change you don' t have any of those. Mr. Rachun - without a site plan, without something concrete, we' ve been discussing this -- it is very hard -- you can' t request of them to have something that 's here it is because they don' t know and won' t know until they get a zoning change and go out and find tenants . My feeling is that this application is very difficult . As Mr . Auble has said many times you phase the project -- phase one is the zoning change, phase two is go out and get the tenants etc. , phase three come back and go over the . whole thing and that would be great but phase one getting the zoning change, phase three may never happen. Mr. Reitz - so essentially you don' t know to what impact it could have up there. Mr. Schlecht - the zoning has certain requirements as to parking and essentially limits how many buildings you can put in there. there is a certain limit . What we did - based on meeting the •• zoning requirements how many buildings can you logically fit in • that space and really tried to be conservative. Put more buildings in there than I can see happen in twenty years . Zoning - limits how much you can put in there. . I Mr. Reitz - in 38 acres how many square feet of building space can you put in with the required permissible parking area. Mr. Schlecht - we had a total of 170 ,00 square feet of commercial space - with the provision for 589 parking spaces . That is total retail . The office complex is a total of 31 ,000 square feet - different parking requirements. Mr. Tyler -- what 's the total square footage projected for the • total site. Mr. Schlecht - in terms of commercial space - the total of the two. Mr. Tyler - is that the sum total - you have housing units as well . • Mr. Schlecht - housing units would be the portion of the project adjacent to the residential area - so actually we projected that into the total of the 38 acres only using 23 acres for commercial development . Mr. Tyler asked - what if at a public hearing you run into a real buzz saw in terms of people being concerned about this whole project - would you be willing - you've applied now for 38 acres ® for commercial - would you be willing to tailor this request back to the 23 acres . Mr. D. Auble - if the Town approves the site plan it would lock the two in basically. Mr. Tyler - if there were site plan - if site plan came to be. '.i ? ^I•• � ... 5 r. .. l .. .. . ( e.. . ;r: ... ' . +'L j TOWN OF ULYSSES 4 Joint Town Board/Planning • 7/30/91 Mr. D. Auble - we proposed a site plan and if site plan is a part of this process . • Mr . Tyler - I understand from Alex that we can not do that . Mr . Schlecht - I think this loops back in to some of my opening comments - what we offered -- what we suggested to Alex was that one of the -- let me back up a little -- SEQR envisions that once you've identified certain concerns, environmental concerns , the applicant can then suggest ways to mitigate or lesson those concerns . What we suggested was that one of the mitigating measures we would offer , voluntarily , would be to do site plan, which would than form the basis for further approvals other than building permits , etc . etc . If this site plan imposed voluntarily by the developer upon themselves would then be one of the mitigating measures and I think realistically what I have been hearing it really is . One of the overwhelming concerns is that everyone expressed publicly has been that they don' t know what is going to happen out there. We are willing to offer site plan, of which then would alleviate those concerns . Now without getting into details, one of the difficulties is of course that there has to be some flexibility or a lot of flexibility in that site plan because what you don' t know is who's coming in, who your tenants will be so your building configurations have to be treated flexibly, have to be allowed to change it some how and has to be addressed but at least be treated flexible . Has to be a process to do that , but at least you have then a guide, some standard to hold up what is being requested and what is being approved. A ten story building would not be on the site plan, a 200 ,000 square foot building that was not on site plan. Mr. Tyler - what I heard Alex saying is that once the zoning • • change is approved the Town can only enforce the zoning, the Town really does not have a way to have a handle on it . Mr. Rachun - George and I have talked about this - basically there is a precedence that , in court , this has been shown not to hold up. If the developer said listen, this site plan I gave you is a restrictive tool that is not part of your town law. If you wanted to condition SEQR on this site plan. A concept plan, then that maybe something for you to look at and make you feel better or feel more at ease to make your zoning change but it may not be a legal document that you can -- Mr . Tyler - so in other words it may not have any binding effect • • Mr . Rachun -it may not have any binding effect - that was what the Town Attorney said Mr . Schlecht - to conclude that I think that is an area where we • have a little disagreement - I 'm not convinced that ' s so, in fact I just today got the latest supplements to the States Env. cases • and they still talk about conditions . This is an area that we are exploring and this is an area that may offer some potential . Mr . Reitz - you've had some conversations apparently - is there any kind of mapping or an idea of what you' re planning - what section of the 38 acres you' re planning in a map of some type. Mr. Schlecht presented the concept plan on which we based our answers to SEQR. (displayed concept map on wall ) • The Board members reviewed this concept as Mr. Schlecht explained the lay out and the twenty year plan. Discussion pursued in reference to the residential area. Mr . Hogan asked Mr . Rachun to explain again what the attorney TOWN OF ULYSSES 1111 5 Joint Town Board/Planning • 7/30/91 • said about this concept as a condition to SEQR. Mr . Rachun - he was inclined to believe that if the town uses this concept plan, down the line, as a guide, it may not necessarily hold up as a guide. Mr . Hogan - did he say if it was legal to attach the concept to SEQR request . • Mr . Racuhn - you can condition SEQR, if that is what you are • asking , but whether the conditions you place on it will hold up or not , may be a totally different story. Mr . Schlecht - I think that there is a distinction to be made here -one. . .you can certainly consider the concept plan as well • as any other document that comes before you in determining whether or not the rezoning request is going to have a • significant impact on the environment and in judging whether or not the numbers we put down are reasonable. So that certainly could be stapled right on the SEQR, no problem at all - I think everyone is in agreement to that - now the question is two things , one is -- it is reasonable -- is that a reasonable project to what might happen in twenty years , which is a judgement you have to make -- secondly, which is another issue, can you condition the negative finding on the developer living to that plan or get a far more detailed plan. Can we make a negative finding conditioned on the fact that it is a concept . Mr. Tyler asked Andrew Scott where the Village stands with their master plan at this point . • Andrew Scott - long discussions have taken place - we are still working on it - in the last meeting we had we concluded that if this Village is going to be viable, there is nothing in this Village that is going attract business because the buildings we • have are just not economically feasible to remodel or purchase for any business . We have come to the conclusion that if this Village is ever going to be viable and kept as a Village we are • • going to need something around the perimeter of the Village. • Like Agway, Shur Save. To me and most of the majority of the planning board feels that we need development around the Village. Mr . Tyler - the first map showed no place for commercial expansion in the Village Mr. Scott - there is no place in the Village for any commercial • expansion and if the Village is going to remain a Village and be • a hub of the Town they are going to have to have something around and close to the outside of the Village. We feel that growth of commercial needs to be very close to the Village to keep it • viable. It is financially prohibitive to bring one of the Village buildings up to code and that what has to be done when occupancy changes . He felt that basically the Village Planning Board and the Master Plan Committee felt the same that there has • to be development outside the Village and close by and the logical place would be on route 96 either side of Village. Mr. Hogan stated that a lot of people in the area are concerned about 38 acres of commercial development . I think with this plan of 22 . 5 acres of commercial plus the remaining 16 acres be residential would be a lot more palatable for a lot of people, but the concept plan is only a concept and as such obviously not cast in concrete, but if we could come up with a way to lay it out and limit the thing. That would probably be a lot easier • battle if it was 22 . 5 acres . As far as SEQR process is concerned and in a public hearing. Mr. Hogan asked the other board members if they have any other opinions . TOWN OF *ULYSSES 11/ 6 Joint Town Board/Planning 7/30/91 Mrs . Keil - I am confused as to why we are changing this huge big property over to commercial without consulting our own master plan committee about how they feel . I personally wonder whether or not we need all this commercial space. Stated her feelings on the Village. Mr . Tyler - the master plan committee feels this came sooner . Mrs . Keil - why rush - wait awhile . Mr . Hogan - we haven' t really rushed. Crowd laughed - 10 years is not really rushing . Mr . Bill Auble responded to Master Plan and all of the business that have been done in the last 10 years were not ever mentioned in any plans . Mr . Tyler - never a master plan. Mr . Hogan - zoning but no master plan. Mr . Scott - sounds like a logical place to put commercial is where Mr . Auble wants to develope. This plan will not be over night it will be a matter of years . Down town Village is dead. Mr . Tyler - key issue that the master plan is looking at is how will the community develope. One way is in a line or row just along route 96 as far down to the hospital . The other is what we are talking about keeping it around the Village - the core or center and then maybe having Jacksonville as another satellite. Having the concentration in those two areas rather than spread along 96. Mr . Scott - I have heard that people want every thing on the south end of the Town because you they don' t want people driving through the Village - the way people talk is really illogical . Mr . Perkins - the way some people talk is that they want to forget about this end of town. Mr . Reitz - he thinks the idea about 23 acres would be better - I don ' t have a real problem with it - further development or request for annexation may come for that corner of the town. The EAF form makes more sense to me with 23 acres than 38 . Residential housing was an issue years ago because of the impact to the schools . Mr . Bill Auble - that is why we went to commercial because of that last hearing years ago. Mr . Reitz - asked if in the 16 acres if they could consider senior housing . Mr . Bill Auble - last time you guys and the Village did not want to see housing . Mr . Reitz - I 'm suggesting a mix - the conceptional plan is focusing on business only. Mr. Dave Auble - It is still our intent; but for us to do housing design at this point , prior to getting access to sewer and water is premature. We know that we can put one grocery store up there without sewer and water . . . that is all we know at this point . Have already devoted a lot of money to site plan design with residential which could be overlaid on this . . . to me that is the strongest market. . . is senior housing. All demographics point to the majority of demands for housing in the future is senior I TOWN OF ULYSSES 7 Joint Town Board/Planning 7/30/91 oriented . Have two factors that influence our thinking, one is the approval by the Village on their portion of it and the other is the water/sewer access . Don' t think we should incorporate a final design at this point , when we have already presented residential information; would be happy to bring those plans back to the table. :1 Mr . Schlecht - Let me try to focus back on what the action was , which is rezoning from essential residential to commercial . The • concept plan in part focused on that fact that the change was going to have. . . could have drawn a map showing you, what by rights , he could put in a couple hundred units of housing and say there is a by rights project , he doesn' t have to ask permission for and here is the impact . We didn ' t do that and [referring to the map] can look at that white area as 'by rights ' ; by rights he can put in residential . To come back and say show us what you are going to do for residential . . . then we are getting into site plan. • Mr . Tyler - Not getting into it from that point of view, but from the point of view that initially, would you scale it back to 22 acres to something that would look like lower impact . . . to answer Jerry' s question about master plan committee. . .we haven' t gotten to the point where. . . this week we are going to start mapping things out a little bit in a very rough sort of way, cne of the things that came to us when we looked at the Village's proposal was that the Village needs to remain kind of a viable center. If that is the case we need to pull things toward the Village. . . from that perspective, given what the Village people have worked on, there didn' t seem to be a whole lot to be done within the Village limits from their perspective. • Mrs . Keil - But we could be pulling things out of the Village by • doing something like this ; not that we are just not bringing new things in. Mr . Tyler - That is true, but in the long run there is going to have to be some area for expansion of commercial uses and the question is where. . . it can be down around RT 96 near the hospital or you can try to concentrate it around the Village. Mrs . Keil - Yes , and they are asking us to rezone the Town; we could ask them to rezone the Village. • Mr . Rachun - One of the problems we had early on is that when the Village presented their master plan, they took the liberty of going outside the Village and they said no commercial ; what I saw there was an invite strip zone all the Town. . . the Village was saying we don' t want it here, you take it out there. I feel Trumansburg is a nucleus . . . you are talking about outside the Village but if you didn' t what the boundary lines were. . . - Mr . Schlecht - This isn' t unique. . .Dryden is going through the same things . Have finally realized that commercial growth is so important . . . just look at the Village budget and Town budget . . .when you are factoring school budgets. . . take that overview; commercial development is so necessary to help the school budget , because they pay the school taxes but they don' t send many kids to school . Mrs . Keil - I didn' t see a tax break from Seafuse' s development . Mr. Hogan - It 's there. Commercial development is the best kind • of tax base, because it doesn' t overload your school system. Mr. Scott - To Alex. . . regarding our [Village] master plan, it is only the first draft . . .so don ' t keep coming back to it . . . and housing. . .didn' t realize this meeting was about what kind of LI•'1 -•� . -.p. i 1 /'.: } �•.. . 1 1 1•x:1. l •j_ Ii. C 1 .3(:F.1 . '/ 1 dair TOWN OF ULYSSES 8 • Joint Town Board/Planning • 7/30/91 housing they were going to put up. . . I thought it was discussion about changing it to commercial . . .don' t think housing should oven • play a part in this issue. • • Mr . Reitz - I brought it up because the EAF addresses all 38 acres . • • • Mr . Hogan - Don' t see why they can' t amend their application. Mr . Rachun - Have to remember the application is for a zoning change; and we aren ' t talking about 22 acres here and 16 acres here for this and that . . . It is a zoning change for all 38 acres . • Mr . Hogan - Wouldn ' t houses fall into subdivision requirements . • • Mr . Schlecht - Almost certainly . Mr . Tyler - If your application is amended to rezone 22 acres into commercial and leave the rest as it is, because it is already residential . . . seems to me that is a more logical way to do it because that is what you are thinking about and I would feel more comfortable with that ; in fact , if we had site plan in • place I would feel comfortable because I would know that we could look at this zoning change and know when you are ready to make things more concrete that the Town would have another chance to take a look at it . Mr . Hogan - Agree with Mr . Tyler , feel comfortable with the 22 1/2 acres and address the remainder on subdivision basis . • • • Mr . Reverby - Read and quoted from minutes of August 5 , 1980 Town of Ulysses Planning Board. Said that the action taken then sounds • as though it would be controlling this application/much of this • • was under consideration in 1980 . Asked where we are in terms of II this . Mr . Tyler - It sounds like an invitation by the Planning Board • for the Town to do a master plan, which just started recently. Mr . D. Auble - Isn' t the Planning Board an agency that recommends to the Town Board . . . recommends , doesn' t have jurisdiction? Mr . Reitz - The Town Board rejected the zoning request . Mr . Reverby - If it was rejected in 1980 , and based upon a master • plan requirement, it is possible that would still be a requirement . Mr . Hogan - The Planning Board is an advisory committee to the Town Board; their findings are not binding. Much has changed in the last ten years and believe the process starts over again . . .don' t think this Board is governed by what happened ten years ago. Mr . Tyler - Thinks Mr. Reverby's point is well taken. The master plan work is not far enough along to give a real opinion, except _, there is a feeling that this may be not inconsistent with what • the master plan is coming to at this point . The key thing of the master plan is coming to the idea that the Village needs to be viable as a unit rather than encourage strip development along RT 96 from here to the hospital ; if that 's the case something like this will work better than say down where the County Home is and having a shopping plaza there. Auble has come up for discussion in the master plan committee deliberations . Mr . Reverby - Seems like we are reaching a point where Mr. Auble ' s frustration with what to do with this land, which we all • .;. .. ,« _ t r.. TOWN OF ULYSSES 9 • Joint Town Board/Planning if 10 7/30/91 know has gone on for fifteen years , is getting to a point where the discussion is "let ' s do something, what can we do" . Would suggest , given all this ambiguity and frustration , which is understandable . . . if I owned it and not making any income from it and it ' s in a prime location. . . think it would be very helpful if everybody did coordinate this with some kind of plan that everybody was concerned with and not just let it fly. Does • • affect everybody in great measure, and should not be left up to the wind . Mr . William Auble - Happy with the talk, at least everyone is discussing it . Mr . Perkins - Agree with Auble, this has been going on for ten years . Not trying to slap something together. Mr . Hogan - Tonight have good representation here, trying to tie • all this together, not just flipping a coin. Mr. Reverby - Think that is appropriate. One thing I would have difficulty with if I owned this property, would be people shouting at me for ten to fifteen years . . .do this . . .don' t do that . . .Now you have a lot of planning mechanisms , people that recognize that something is going to have to happen. . .seems Mr. • Auble has spent a lot of time coming up with ideas that haven' t floated. . . seem to think there are a lot of people to input into • this and maybe the problems would be solved to everyone's benefit . • Mr. Schlecht - As far as planning goes , we have been working with the County, site plan, and trying to coordinate our efforts with the Village; for the year I have been involved with this project , I haven' t gotten anywhere with any communication with the Village and glad to hear that maybe there is some change there. We have made that effort and there is still an open door. Mr . Hogan - At the joint meeting with the Town/Village about three months ago there was concern from the Village that 38 acres was too large, wanted to see less , but didn' t know a number . Think the 22 1/2 commercial and other 16 1/2 to be handled by • subdivision is a very reasonable approach. Mr . Reitz - Agrees , but caution the use of subdivision. . . it is residential now. • Mr. Schlecht - One way to fit that in with the context of the process is to say, we have reviewed the EAF and we find if it. were reduced to 22 . 3 acres , then it would not have a significant impact on the environment . That would then give us a place to • go. That is certainly an outcome within the procedures that ' s contemplated by SEQR. Mr. Tyler - Won' t go so far as to say I don' t see any problems , I think that is the logical way to proceed, the problem is that I wish we had site plan in effect . If we had site plan, then think I would feel comfortable with the whole procedure. Mr. David Auble - We are producing all the materials that will be used for site plan review. Mr. Tyler - But that is not a condition; have heard Alex and Town Attorney say we are only talking rezoning. Let 's hypothetically say that the Board approves the rezoning of 22 acres , which then occurs . . .site plan is then defeated. . . then basically that is the last the Town will have dealing with this project , except in terms of issuing building permits . Mr. Bill Auble - We have been gladly producing everything you ask • TOWN OF ULYSSES 1 10 Joint Town Board/Planning • 7/30/91 • for . . . have been doing that . Mr . Tyler - It 's not your fault , it 's the Town 's fault not having • the mechanism in place , • Mr . Schlecht - You are right in appraising the problem, and the • Board has to decide on the rules you have set up now, that the 22 . 8 acres , if rezoned won' t have a significant impact on the environment and you would rely on a concept plan; you have to satisfy yourselves that it might not look like that , but we know it isn' t going to be any more dense than that . Mr . Tyler - If site plan doesn' t go through, the developer can go back to the zoning ordinance and do whatever that says he can do with commercial property . Mrs . Stover - Would it be advisable to go through this form and look at other things in it before we say 22 1/2 acres , or whatever? Would it have a negative impact if we changed it? Mr. Hogan - Specifically, what areas? • Mrs . Stover - Can' t say I disagree with anything; have a few questions . Mr . Hogan - If we are of the opinion that this should be changed to 22 1/2 acres , then this whole form would have to be changed anyway. Mr . David Auble - But this applies in either case. Mr . Tyler - Asked Alex if EAF has to be completed before a public hearing takes place. Mr. Rachun - The EAF should he completed before a decision is made. . .would caution. . . it should be completed because there may be some input out there from one of the involved agencies . Mr . Tyler - Wouldn ' t the Town Board be in a better position to • make an intelligent review of the whole thing after the hearing process . . . before they vote. Mr. Reitz - We are voting on what action? Mr . Tyler - You are voting on the rezoning of these 22 acres . Mr . Reitz - That is • • part of the SEQR action to have that before we make our determination. Mr . Tyler - But which comes first . . .getting the communities input by the hearing, or having you complete this . Might have input from the public which would impact and help you. Mr. Reitz - The Town has already acted that the Town Board would • .be lead agency; the next action by the Town Board would be to determine what type of action it would be and that would be after Part 1 is done . . . and we already gave it in front of us . Mr . Rachun - Tentative assumption has been made that it is a Type 1 action. . . otherwise they would be filling out a short form. There request was for rezoning of 38 acres which kicked it into a long form. If this was for 22 acres , strictly on a change of basis , it could be a short form. Only on a change of zoning basis , without a concept plan, site plan, all the other things that would create an impact . Or can go through the long form and then at the end, make your decision that it is going to be a change of zoning to 22 acres . Can use this as your tool to come up with that decision. Mr . Schlecht - Think that is what I was saying, the data is there, you can make a determination of significance. Mr. Tyler suggested having input from the public . Mr. Schlecht stated that aim• .. .. ... ... �i t� .n �`i 1'1' .. .. i t. •�n.'a iP .. fv t. :'F 1 , .ut• �.' ,� „ S'."., 'i d";: . fir/, TOWN OF ULYSSES I 7 'ii Joint Town Board/Planning 7/30/91 !' it is confusing enough here talking; do it at a public h.earing . . . let ' s get it settled first and then have the public hearing . Mr . Rachun - If you do Part II to the best of your ability; this long form is a request for 38 acres , you are considering it a Type I action and your decision may not be 38 acres , it may be something less . . . think the Town Board should sit down and go over • Part II . Part I has gone out to County Planning . Mr . Schlecht - Reviewed Part II . . .has questions regarding impact ; can say that this could have a potentially large impact . . . can it be mitigated by a project change. . .Yes . . .How. . . go to 22 acres . . . so I think if the press is contemplating exactly this type of change, and if you change, you don' t have to go back to • , the beginning . . . you say, look Bill Auble, can it be mitigated by project change. . .Yes . . .what are those changes . . .make it smaller. . . so that is how the process goes . It 's not meant to go . . . submit a new application for 23 acres and go back to square one. . . and that 's not the way it should work. Mr. Reitz - So a suggestion tonight would be that the Town Board should he considering Part II in it ' s deliberation process , Alex 4. has filled this out . If we agree to all parts of this , we the • Board should sign off on it and forward that to the involved interested agencies . Mr . Rachun - Indicated that he had done Part II for zoning change only. Did not have this in mind when it was created and unfortunately this is the tool we have to use. Mrs . Duddleston • asked if Part II was all filled out . Mr. Rachun said it is _ there, but basically reviewing it as a zoning change, no impact can be designated because there is nothing in front of us that designates an impact . This is called a contingent SEQR process , where one part is contingent on the second. You do the first 4. part of the zoning change, and then when the development starts , the second part may be more entailed. As alluded to earlier, without site plan review you don' t do a second part because we aren' t involved any more. The Town is not making any discretionary action and the developments on its own. Mr. Reitz - This is part of the problem we have because if this goes through we have no other impact on the proposed project without site plan. But , since Part I was filled out , with the conceptual plan, why shouldn' t we consider Part II with the conceptual plan also. Mr. Rachun - You may . . .my only word of caution if you condition SEQR on that concept plan, that concept plan, as George said • earlier, would need an immense amount of flexibility to be able to do what they have to do. It may be exactly like it is or completely different . Mr . Reitz - Would assume George, that this is a worst case -• scenario, or the best for your part . . .but environmentally. . . this is the most high density, populated project that you would like . to see conceptually in twenty years . Mr. Schlecht - Might also be an ideal . You are looking now at an environmental point of view, you are looking at how it will impact on the community, what it 's going to do for the community in terms of drawing people, etc . , it 's a lot of things . Mr . Weatherby - Is this concept based on not having the municipal sewer and water, as it stands now? Mr. Schlecht - That is a good question. That is why there is a TOWN Of ULYSSES 12 Joint Town Board/Planning 7/30/91 • white apace and there are a couple of reasons why and that is , in part , to allow for the contingency to allow for private septic systems . We anticipate that there will be municipal sewer/water • available . . .but if it doesn' t come down that way, what you see before you would certainly allow private septic systems . Mr. Weatherby - The concept in front of us now, even if there was • municipal water/sewer eventually, you relate to the maximum, because of parking. So what we see there may be what is the max • of that area anyway? Mr . Schlecht - That is correct . Mr . Hogan - What you are saying is if you don' t work out sewer/water with the Village, the septic systems are going to be outside the 22 1/2 acres . Mr. Schlecht - Yes . More significantly, not so much what the septic system would be for commercial , but it would then make it very difficult to think about any kind of residential subdivision, with private septic systems. 1 Mr . Reitz - Asked if there had been any environmental analysis, as far as water table, how ground water flows . Mr. Schlecht - No. Haven' t done anything like that. Mr . Reitz - The Board has to review Part II action, make some determination on its impact; want to set up a public hearing next? • Mr. Hogan - We can do that . We are going to want this back, going to want this 30 day process to complete before the public • hearing , correct? • Mr . Reitz - Correct , after we make a determination on Part II it goes out to the agencies . Mr. Rachun - I have sent out Part I already to the only involved agency, County Planning. Now the advisory agencies don' t need a 30 day period. They have until the 22nd of August . They are the only involved agency. Mr. Schlecht - An "involved agency" is very specifically defined. It is an agency who has discretionary approval of a project . The Health Dept . would not be an involved agency in a rezoning action, it may not even be an involved agency to a building permit in a commercial zone that already has sewer and water, because they have no discretionary permit to issue. The County is a little of a question mark because they have this review pursuant to State law, they are struggling with if that means they are an involved or interested party. An "interested party" is anyone around who is an interest . Mr. Reverby - Getting the impression that the Town is making the decision to look at this as a zoning question, not too many other people would have involvement and with the zoning examination we • have some informal understanding that this concept plan is what is intended to be done because it is part of the application, even though you don' t have the amended application. You are going to maybe passing this , and meanwhile there is no site plan review or master plan, once the is done and the 21 acres are passed, then there isn' t any control . Mr. Reitz - Except for State building codes and other zoning requirements within a business district . County Health, DOT would come into place after zoning approval . • . � "1:, �'J. : .. �<`�,. ..1 i, . . •.4v:'..L.- '..�. .-4 i.;•,�.,'F u .. .. li ''�' v 1�':f S. �• !, .'.1�J i . L 141 , . TOWN OF ULYSSES 13 Joint Town Board/Planning • 7/30/91 Mr . Reverby - On August 13 you are going to have a vote on site • plan review. If you stated that simply, you are scuttling the possibility of reviewing what comes in if you don' t have a review after . Mr . Reitz - Interesting point . You are suggesting that because the application is grandfathered in, it would not have to go through site plan review any way. Mr . Reverby - We don ' t know if site plan review is going to pass . You are three weeks away from finally coordinating this after • { fifteen years of difficulty; seems to me that the Town Board and Planning Board are setting themselves up for a lot of hostility and anger , or just not doing their job. Take a thing of this impact and make this change without allowing for review, which they have almost in place. . . . • There was discussion on when the public hearings and vote on site plan, etc. would take place. a Mr. Rachun - You are changing zoning, you are not changing the zoning based on the concept , you are not conditioning the change in zoning based on this concept . . . there is no grandfather, nothing to grandfather in. When the building permit comes in, if site plan is in place, then there is a review process . If site plan is not in place then there is no review. Site plan is a tool to guide people, can' t condition this zoning change on a concept plan which is not a site plan and you can' t condition it on a site plan because it 's not a development district request and we don' t have site plan review in place. Because of that , all we are doing is saying, Mr. Auble, you've got your change in • • zoning, it 's 38 acres , 22 acres , whatever you are going to do, or you don' t . One way or the other the Town is going to vote on that . But they aren' t going to vote on it and say you've got 22 acre change in zoning, and that 's your site pian. . .you can' t do that . Mr. Reverby - Isn' t it very hard to try to figure out whether or • not this should be zoned commercial if we don' t know what is going in there? Mr . Rachun - It is called segmented SEQR. You are putting SEQR • in place in segments . . . the first is the change of ; the second segment is they go out with that change in zoning and come back with tenants and a project plan, if site plan review is in place, the Town review it ; if site plan review isn' t in place the Town doesn' t review it . Mr . Schlecht - Want to go on record. . . agree with what Alex has said; but would caution the word ' segmenting SEQR' , because segmenting SEQR is a no-no. Means a special thing when you go to regulations . It is true, rather than segmenting, we are looking at an on-going process maybe. When we filled out Part I , it wasn' t segmented in the sense that we ignored projections of what we expect the environmental impact to be. . . that ' s the reason the concept plan was drawn was to show you what the ultimate build- _ out would be eventually, based on a twenty year plan. . .and to that extent it is not segmented. Segmenting is something that is criticized. . .because you say this action has no impact , rezoning by itself is only an action involving paper changing, that has no impact . We are not segmenting, we have addressed the expected effects of the rezoning action as specifically as we can. Mr . Rachun - Use it in that context because if this is treated as a zoning change, and if there is nothing in place later on, for you to come back with, then I think it has to be looked at as segmented SEQR. If the Town Board is going to entertain this concept plan as a condition of SEQR, which I still feel won ' t .`4'- .7 r. .. r.. ..IM': S•• , '1 ' {• ..t.;. . . . I r • t��r , F f ., '. ` y', . 4.: • 4 . .\f;i. ':, TOWN OF ULYSSES {e. 14 • Joint Town Board/Planning ' v 7/30/91 • hold up in court , if they are going to entertain that as conditional on your negative declaration, then they have a lot of work on this particular application. They are going to have to entertain County Health, DOT and every other involved agency based on that . So if you aren' t going to involve them and you are going to treat it as a change, think this is the way it , -, should go. Agree with you that segmented SEAR is a no-no. Mrs . Keil - Would like to go back again to master plan committee , • • which I know I keep relying on, but as a planning board member feel it is a long time coming and would, now that we have the • committee, have their thoughts . Now that we have come to this idea that there would be 22 . 27 acres , that may be rezoned commercial , based on a conceptual plan that may or may not happen as it is . . .what I think is something that should be taken into consideration is what do we need if this came out the space that we want to make commercial . . . is this enough space for what we want or is it too much space and is that 22 acres a good figure. Pr Mr . Schlecht - This is a twenty year projection. , Mr. Reitz - Also the commercial districts , business district to ' other parts of the Town. • r Mrs . Keil - And the Village! One of the things we have to • mention is that we want to keep the Village viable, and do we want to do this thing and suck it all out . . .is it really healthy. These are the kinds of things that the master plan committee is addressing and they are the people we should be going to for that kind of input . • • , Mr. Tyler - All planning board members are invited to the master plan meeting tomorrow night . Mr . Hogan - Basically, when the Town Board had to vote on annexation, the majority of the Town Board at the time felt that the annexation was a good idea. There was a list of several reasons why we felt that way. Felt the added tax base would be good, the added services to the area, etc. and felt that _ annexation was a good idea. So think the Town Board has already • gone on record to say that they feel commercial development is a reasonable idea up there. The exact size. . . I don' t know. . . you could talk from now until we are 150 on exactly how many acres is • the right idea, but the market dictates that . It could be one store for a long time; if the Octopus opens up. . . then it could . change. . .but, basically you are here with a concept . Mr. Rachun - One of the things Andy Scott alluded to earlier in • this meeting is the fact that people are constrained in the center of the Village here because of the NYS building code and I have to attest to that . The fact remains that when you change • the occupancy classification of a building that building has to ' be brought up to code 100% and it ' s virtually impossible, and we have been very liberal with our interpretation about what occupancy change means in the Village. Have tried to accommodate it , but there are still about 20 requests, that people in the Village have requested to put something in and they can' t because . of the building code and they can' t meet the code because of the nature of their building. Do have very real constraints along with all the others that have been argued. . .parking, etc. , etc . Mr. Hogan asked about the 22 acres . . .Mrs . Stover and Mr. Perkins felt it was OK. Mrs . Duddleston asked if they want this settled tonight or do we take the whole concept for the entire acreage to the public hearing. Mr. Hogan stated that the acreage needs to be settled so Part II can be done and then set this up for public hearing. • • • '.tai f ., n. .h,. .,t.: k. ! .••W r,:yh .j),• p .� .. .../t .A. 1 ti .t J. 1 (. TOWN OF ULYSSES 15 Joint Town Board/Planning 7/30/93. Mr . Rachun - Will need to amend each of these. . . explain why. Mr . Hogan - Master plan meets tomorrow night . . . perhaps we can make that meeting and run this by them. Mr . Schlecht - Think that from the time the EAF, Part I is completed, and it has been, there are twenty days to take an action . This action does not involve a public hearing. What we are asking is that the Town Board, acting as lead agency , fill out Part II . If there are places where the request , as made, can be mitigated by changes , that the appropriate way to do it would be to check off ' this project can be mitigated by making a change' , and stating what the change is . Prior to going to a public hearing ; the public hearing will be on the rezoning request , not SEQR per se. Assuming it is a negative declaration. Mr. Hogan - But the public hearing would be based on our recommendations for the 22 . 5 acres . Mr . Schlecht - If that is what you decide, then we would have to revise the drawing . Mr. Reitz - The twenty days would be August 6. Mr. Hogan asked Mr . Rachun how much time is needed to do Part II . Mr. Schlecht said you could do it tonight . Mr. Tyler said it will take a couple of hours . Mr . Schlecht - It would take one meeting . To sit down and answer those questions , check off yes or no. Bad news is that you really have to sit down and go through that Part II . You will be better served to do that before going to a public hearing on the zoning question. Going to have to come back, I presume at that point, and say Yes , we feel that this project will not have a significant impact . . . the rezoning request will not have an impact , if these changes are made. That is what I am hearing . Mr . Hogan - We have a public hearing set up for the 6th of • August. . .shouldn' t take long, could do it then, or on Saturday morning . Have we advertised as yet? Mrs . Georgia stated this public hearing on the 6th has been advertised; can post this meeting on the bulletin board. Mr . Rachun - You are all focused on what you are doing. . . focused on the fact that if you are going to say 38 acres is too much and 22 , whatever acres , is OK. . . that you are going to have a reasonable explanation for that and that reasonable explanation is going to be based on something; something that has been presented here tonight that cannot be conditional on a negative declaration but can help you as a guide. You have to realize that it is in no way binding. Mr . Hogan - Perhaps we can set up a date for a public hearing . . .what do we need, 15 days? Mrs . Georgia - Yes , believe so . Mr. Reitz - Would be cautious about setting a public hearing tonight . Principal reason is we don' t know how this Part II is going to go; perhaps wait until next Tuesday, August 6 or wait until the Regular Town Board meeting on August 13 to set the date. Everyone agreed with this suggestion. . .Mr. Hogan said we will set the public hearing date on Tuesday. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn the meeting, moved by • • TOWN OF ULYSSES 16 Joint Town Board/Planning 7/30/91 Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Meeting adjourned at 8 : 45pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha Georgia Pm 1 1 111 • • TOWN OF ULYSSES ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AUGUST 5, 1991 PRESENT: Chairman Gail Zabawsky; Board Members Ken Christianson, James Hickey, Carl Mann and George Tselekis; Zoning Officer Alex Rachun; Secretary Rita Brown. OTHERS PRESENT: Mr . & Mrs. Edward Biondi , Tim Fallon, Tom McGory, Mr . & Mrs, Tim Maguire , James Hubbard, Ron Rabke, Harold Bush. Chairman Gail Zabawsky called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. The first hearing was for a request by Edward Biondi for a variance under • Article II , Section 6 of the Zoning Ordinance for the purpose of building a garage. This was denied under Article V, Section 1 of the the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that a legal conforming lot must be one • acre and have 200 feet of frontage. The property at 4 Maplewood Point • does not meet this requirement . • • Mr. Biondi explained that the garage would be on an existing driveway, approximately 20' in width and 23' in depth, approximately two-thirds of the way up driveway. It will attach itself to the house. There is already two walls there, three including the side of the house. The building will be tall enough to have a storage room above it; it will have a 10 foot garage door. Tim Fallon, neighbor to the south, spoke in favor of the proposal . Tom McGory, neighbor closest to the driveway, • also spoke in favor. • Mr . Christianson moved the following! • WHEREAS: the variation involved in this particular project is not substantial in relation to the requirement in view of the of the fact that it is a lake property and in view of the fact that there is already two existing walls there. • WHEREAS: there would be no increased population as the result of • this proposed project. • WHEREAS: there would not be any significant change in the character of the neighborhood as result of this project. WHEREAS: the difficulty cannot be obviated by any other method. BE IT RESOLVED: in view of the manner in which the difficulty arose and considering all of the above factors, justice will be served by allowing the variance . • Motion seconded by George Tselekis, Ms. Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: Mr. Christianson aye • Mr . Mann aye Mr . Tselekis aye Ms. Zabawsky aye • Variance approved as the motion was stated. • At 7:40 p.m. the Board began the second hearing for Timothy Maguire for the purpose of placing two signs at Maguire Chevrolet which was denied under Article VIII , Section (1a,g) (3a) of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that no sign shall be closer than fifteen feet from any road right of ° way; no free standing sign shall exceed fifteen feet in height ; free standing business sign shall be no larger than 40 square feet. Tim Maguire explained that he would like to use the Chevrolet sign and the Geo Sign (unlit) that was used for Gal Chevrolet . The Geo sign will be back between the driveway and the Duddleston Road in a cleared off area (a tree will be removed) with railroad ties around it. That is where his property line is. He wants to place the Chevrolet sign on the hill where 3 or 4 cars are parked now, the base of the sign will be .. ., • . �7 e • • roughly five feet down the hill , closer to the Chevrolet Building. It will be lower than the Ford sign. The sign will be on Maguire land. The signs will be 110' back from the road, Mr. Hickey noted that there is a precedent for this type of situation. It was the Boards decision to grant an area variance for the following reasons: 1 ) Its clearly not a special use permit; 2) it not a use variance , and 3) because the preamble to the section of the Zoning Ordinance that deals with the area variances says that the Board mar hear an appeal for an Area Variance to relieve dimensional or similar • requirements. Having stated that, Mr. Hickey moved the following: WHEREAS: the variation may be substantial , it is not so • • substantial so as to be prohibitive ; WHEREAS: there is to be no impact on increased population or use of the Town's facilities; • WHEREAS: there will not be a substantial change in the character of the neighborhood in view of the fact that the sign itself has been part of this area for a number of years; WHEREAS: we would put these applicants to a serious and costly practical difficulty if we were to deny the variance; BE IT RESOLVED: in the interests of justice, the Board grant the area variance at this time. Motion seconded by Mr . Christianson. Ms. Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: • Mr. Christianson aye Mr . Mann aye Mr. Tselekis aye Mr . Hickey aye Ms. Zabawsky aye • Variance approved. At 7:55 p.m. the Board began the hearing for Blue Ox Corporation of 1854 • Trumansburg Road, Jacksonville, NY. This application is for the purpose of placing an advertising sign in a business district which was denied under Article VIII , Section la of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that no sign shall be closer than fifteen feet from any road right of way. • Mr. James Hubbard explained that they are changing the name of the convenience store from Jim's Place to Nice N Easy Grocery Shoppe. They would rather not use the current sign pole as it does not seem very stable , and the current sign is in violation of the size requirements, being 45 square feet instead of the 40 square feet that is allowed, and it is hanging two feet over into the highway right of way right now. They intend to put up a new sign in place of the existing sign and make it six feet instead of ten feet wide and bring it back within the 40 square feet. The height of the new sign will be a little over 15' . Alex Rachun expressed concern that if the two poles were to be filled in with signs, it may block the view. He recommends that signs be Kept up III high enough so as not to block vision. The yellow reader board that is currently there will be removed. Alex indicated that he has had one complaint about visibility, As preference to the motion, Mr. Hickey indicated the appropriateness of an area variance as opposed to any other type of relieve that the Board is authorized to grant. Having stated that, Mr. Hickey moved the following: WHEREAS: the variation may be substantial in relation to the requirement, It Is not so substantial as to be prohibitive especially in view of the problem that adhering to compliance would create; WHEREAS: there would be no impact of population density or any • • v , 1 municipal services; r WHEREAS: there would be no change in the character in the . • neighborhood or detriment to adjoining properties; WHEREAS: there clearly is no way this particular goal could be accomplished without a variance; WHEREAS: a concern has been raised about potential safety problems raised by height level of the attached reader boards or other off signs; BE IT RESOLVED: that a variance be granted on the condition that no sign, reader board or other attachment extending • between the poles be erected any lower than six feet off the grade. The safety factors concern visibility of cars. Motion seconded by Mr. Christianson. Ms. Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: Mr. Christianson aye Mr . Mann aye Mr. Tselekis aye • Mr. Hickey aye . Ms. 2abawsky aye Variance approved. At 8:10 p.m. the Board began the hearing for the Seven Lakes Girl Scout . Council of 1385 Taughannock Blvd. This application is the purpose of •• building a maintenance building which was denied under Article V, Section 2 of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that all buildings in a • residence district shall be fifty feet from highway right of way. , .' Ill Mr. Ron Rabke explained that they want to build an equipment storage • building that will be 20' x 60' , pole barn type, metal building. It . will not be seen from the highway. The building will be placed north of the circle driveway area in a clearing. They will have to remove a minimal number of trees. This building will be a central maintenance • center for their seven properties, and all of their rangers will be ..• bringing in their equipment to work on, and for safety reasons they do • • not want to be taking all their equipment and tractors down the steep • incline . During the winter months, they will be able to use this work area when the main campus is shut down. No additional access will be needed off from Route 89. They will continue to use their own access by • making a clearing to this area from their driveway. The building will • face towards the lake so that tractors and equipment cannot be seen from • the highway. They have three tractors and four trailers that will be _. parked in that area and they plan to hold ranger workshops there, will •• . need parking for approx. seven trucks. There will be one office in the . • building for maintenance manuals, utility drawings, etc. , but there will . be no one assigned specifically to this office . The building will be approximately 75 feet from the edge of the highway. • Mr . Hickey noted that this application is from an organization that is well -recognized In the area and it has been taken into account the Zoning Officer's remarks about the timeliness of previous work and the proficiency with which this has been accomplished. Having made this statement, Mr. Hickey made the following motion : . WHEREAS: the variation in question is not substantial especially in view of the fact that it is 50 feet from the actual highway. as used; WHEREAS: there would be no impact in terms of population density . thus produced on available governmental facilities; WHEREAS: there would be no substantial change in the character of the neighborhood or certainly no detriment to adjoining properties, noting that there is insubstantial change in that there will be a building there where there . e. ._ . . . 144 ' 4 • • • is currently nothing there; WHEREAS: the difficulty as explained is formidable and cannot be • resolved in any other realistic method , BE IT RESOLVED: considering all of the above factors the Interests of justice will be served by allowing this variance . Motion seconded by Mr. Christianson. Ms. Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: v. Mr. Christianson aye Mr. Mann aye • Mr. Tselekis aye Mr. Hickey aye Ms. Zabawsky aye Variance approved. • Hearing no further business, Mi : Zabawsky moved to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Mr. Tselekis. Meeting adjourned at 8:25 p.m. 1 . • . .. ' .rr \ r .. i' 1, .r 1 i r F. \• .n .� rCL r .. y. : r t . .i r TOWN OF ULYSSES Ire • PUBLIC HEARING TAUGHANNOCK HANDCRAFTED LOG HOMES PUD August 6, 1991 Present: William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Councilpeoplo; Alex Rachun, Zoning/Building; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present: David Auble, Taughannock Log Home people, Seville Reulein, Jerry Perkins, M. Budd Stover. Purpose: To hear public comment on establishing a Planned Unit Development for Taughannock Handcrafted Log and Timber • Construction, Inc. Mr. Hogan opened the public hearing at 6:30 pm. Mrs. Georgia read the legal notice as published in the Ithaca Journal on July 22, 1991 . Mr. Hogan asked for public comment . M. Budd Stover spoke in favor of this PUD. David Auble spoke in favor. • Jerry Perkins spoke in favor. Hearing no further comments, Mr . Hogan closed the public hearing at 6: 45 pm. Respectfully submitted, -• Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm ; . I AMEMMIINEEMEMMEMA l. , p.l" 'It:1.- A 5,,x.1..a 1 1 � £,( '11 14:5 • F �. r1 .' ) rr, tl r A • c e . TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING August 6 , 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Councilpeople; Alex Rachun, Zoning/Building; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk . Others Present : David Auble, Taughannock Log Home people, i Seville Reulein, Jerry Perkins , M. Budd Stover . . Mr . Hogan called the Special Board Meeting of the Town Board to , . order at 6: 45 pm. The Board reviewed the map and SEQR for Taughannock Handcrafted Log and Timber Construction, Inc. request for PUD. Mr . Hogan asked Hr. Rachun to comment . ® Mr . Rachun said he had talked to County Planning and Finger Lakes Park. . .have letter on file stating they have no concerns for the project as presented. Need a survey map as early as possible and a legal description thereof . Mr. Reitz asked about SEQR action on impact on land. . .any justification of Part II? Mr. Rachun said it is not a major impact , as far as noise. . .did a noise study there. . .noise impact seems to be fairly minimal . Mr. Reitz said there are two other X's. . . impact on aesthetic resources and noise and odor impacts; page 9 and 10 . Both are . listed as small to moderate. Mr. Reitz asked what Mr. Rachun' s reasoning was for checking these off . Mr. Rachun said as far as impact on open space and recreation, being private property don' t •r know if it was open for recreation. . .but aside from that the - proximity of the gravel pit is a deep depression in the ground, - if you were to do a line side across it you wouldn' t see the activity that was going down, very close proximity. Almost have to be on top of the edge of the pit to see the activity below. As far as noise and odor impact. . .we again went back to minimum noise, and that 's an assumption that when leaves are off the trees you may hear it . Don' t want to say there is no noise. . .and as far as $11 is concerned, impact on growth in the community, . character of the community and neighborhood, one of the No votes on the Planning Board expressed the concern that they wouldn' t like this to set precedence as far as commercial development around the park, as part of the land use policy, master plan, etc. This was an opinion expressed by one member of the Planning Board. As far as the impact, I expressed my belief to the . • Planning Board that this type of activity was closer to some agricultural activity than to some commercial activities ; basically harvesting and using trees, although not locally, and then shipping them out . That was just something that the Planning_ Board included in i11. Mr. Reitz said, then based on Part II , would it be your recommendation that we make a negative declaration of environmental impact? Mr. Rachun said Yes it would. Mrs . Stover said there is a letter from the State Park? Mr . Rachun said everything is in the folder. Mrs . Stover asked what Weather Master is and Mr. Rachun said the product information is also in the folder. Mr. Reitz asked if there was an EPA number associated with that? Hr. Rachun said if there is it would also be in the folder. Mr. Hogan said that Weather Master is a product that is used to 1 ifei Town of Ulysses 2 Special Town Board Meeting August 6, 1991 treat the logs. Don said this product is painted ont he outside of the logs . This is a product that has been used in California for fifteen years and has the toxicity of nutmeg. Very safe and works just as well as the strong stuff that is used elsewhere. Non-chemical vehicle. Mr . Reitz asked about the truck traffic and limits of the road. . .what transportation routes do you plan? Don said the primary route would be to use RT 96 and go down Jacksonville Road. Bridge in State Park will take weight of trucks. . . checked III with DOT. Mr. Hogan asked about the bark. . .Don said they have someone gather it and take it. Mr. Reitz said I have one other question that we might include in the PUD specifications . . .my concern is the right-of-way from the • Park road back to your property, it isn' t defined. Don said I am not going to buy the land unless there is a permanent easement . ' Mr. Reitz said perhaps the wording could be modified. Mr. Rachun said that Don Oliver assured him that the right-of-way that the Park has , 100 ft . from the centerline of the Park road is granted to Jim Scott , his heirs or anyone he sells the land to. Mr. Reitz said think it should be included in this description so that we are covered. Mr. Hogan asked if Mr. Reitz wants to include something in there • now. Mr. Rachun said that in closing, he [Don] will have a legal description. Mr. Reitz said I think a copy of the legal deed • needs to be provided. Mr. Hogan asked if that was indeed our concern? Mr. Reitz said absolutely. . . if he loses the right-of-way, we have created a PUD without any access to it. It is our responsibility to be sure that the PUD we are approving has all the proper accesses . I am making a simply modification that a copy of the legal deed be provided to be incorporated into this application. Would you • like that in the form of a motion? Mr. Hogan said am trying to determine what we need here to satisfy your question. Basically we don' t want to put the entire legal deed in our zoning ordinance, just want a statement . Mr. Reitz said that is Item J. Change that to read 'a copy of the legal deed shall become incorporated in the application' . A legal deed includes right-of-ways, etc. Mr. Reitz said the first point of order should be that we declare a negative declaration on SEQR, have action on that, then we then have to accept this document, and make modifications . Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following: That the Ulysses Town Board declare a negative declaration under this SEQR act for Planned Unit Development District #20 . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Approved. I Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following: That the Town Board, Town of Ulysses approve Development District #20 as presented (see attached) . Mr. Hogan asked for discussion. Mr. Reitz stated that he would like to offer the following amendment to the document . . . that 4J be modified to read: "A copy of the legal deed shall become V Town of Ulysses 3 • Special Town Board Meeting August 6 , 1991 Ij, incorporated in the application, including conveyances of rights- of-ways . Seconded by Mrs. Stover . Mr. Hogan Aye • Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Approved. Mr . Reitz said that covers the amendment , I would like to vote upon the approval of the Development District . Mr. Hogan asked for a vote on the original motion to approve the following: 1 . This district shall be known as Development District 20 . 2 . The purpose of which said district may be used as is: A pre- building site for hand crafted log houses . Logs may be delivered, hand peeled, scrubbed, heated, assembled, labeled, disassembled, • and shipped to destination. 3 . Area of said district: Beginning approximately North 9 degrees to. 2 feet East, 825 feet +/- of a pin set . in center of Park Road and continuing approximately .North 82 degrees to 58 feet West 300 feet +/-; then North 7 degrees and 51 feet East 600 feet +/- , following South 81 degrees to 14 feet East , 300 feet +/- and returning South 600 feet . +/- to point. of origin. Area of • said district approximately 4.18 . acres. _ • 4 . Specifications of said district.- are: " '.: a. There shall be an area within the parcel of 50 ft . of trees along the. park . line as a buffer. . b. There. shall be. no night time operations , and weekend operations shall be- only on occasional basis . • c. The building shall be set back from park boundary 100 feet and other three boundaries at least 50 feet . • d. The elevation of. building-shall be as depicted in the application below the . level of surrounding terrain. e. The building shall be completed within five years. f . There shall be. no solid. waste or liquid waste disposal on • site. g. There shall be proper storage of petroleum . fuels on site • not . to exceed. 275 gallons at . any one time. h. The . type of wood. treatment to be used . shall be limited to that presented to the Board .by applicant . . (Weather-Master) i . A "portable potty" shall be put on the site. . j . A copy of the legal deed shall become incorporated in the application, including conveyances of rights-of-ways. 5 . THIS AMENDMENT SHALL BE. IN EFFECT UPON ADOPTION AND PUBLICATION AS . PROVIDED BY .LAW. . Mr. Hogan . . Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan stated that also at this Special Board Meeting we are going to talk about Part II SEQR for the Auble request and set a date for the public hearing. The Board reviewed Part II . See attached. The following is in response to the potential impacts identified in the Part 2 EAF prepared by the Town Board of Ulysses . Please • refer to the Part 2 for the appropriate sections. IMPACT ON LAND: p. 6 , 1-2: The "Tompkins County Soils Map" of the Soil Conservation Service indicates that seasonally • high water may occur at a depth of between one and three . . ,. 4 x ... . .i:. r .'1.' (r> '.�%: •.} . r ��1 �. .� o.. w i' ..j ':' 4'7 Tow.. of Ulysses 4 Special Town Board Meeting August 6, 1991 feet for approximately twenty percent of the site. The Board believes that this concern can be alleviated during the building permit procedure. High seasonal water table is • very common in the Town and is easily controllable by standard building techniques , footing drains, etc. Local history indicates that wells in this area are generally deep rock wells and that the perched ground water table is not directly linked to the underlying aquifer. This fact mitigates concerns regarding pollution of the III aquifer through ground water contamination. p. 6, 1-5: This action if approved will no doubt result in the construction of commercial buildings suitable to the • site. It is expected that this will continue for some unknown period of years . The Board believes that the intensity and duration of the construction undertaken will be typical for the Town. The Town Board believes that it is more desireable to concentrate this type of construction in • a cluster close to the Village. The Board further believes that if this type of development were not to take place here it would be scattered throughout the Town with increased negative impacts . The Board further believes that the duration of the construction is beneficial in that each • building or section will he built in response to actual demand. The Board observes that if construction were undertaken all at one time and the demand did not exist it would result in vacant and unsightly buildings, and, therefore, finds that ongoing development in stages is a necessary result of the action, and will not have any significant environmental impact . IMPACT ON WATER: p. 7 , 5-9: The Town Board of Ulysses recognized that the proposed action, if approved would allow a gasoline station on the site, which is an allowed use in a "Business" district . This could result in the storage of • petroleum or chemical products greater than 1100 gallons . • The Town Board observes that any such storage of gasoline or petroleum products would require the appropriate permits • through the building department , through the EPA, and DEC for the safe storage of such products, and believes that the potential negative impact is both speculative and minimal . p. 7 , 5-11 : The Town Board identifies that if this action is approved that increased commercial/industrial use could require new, or expansion of, existing waste treatment . However , the Board observes that the existing Town business district does not allow industrial uses of a type which might generate high flow sewage. It also observes that the proposed commercial uses would likely generate less sewage than the residential uses which are presently allowed in the district . The Board also believes that sewer and water lines are already on the property and that this lessens concerns for sewage disposal . IMPACT ON AGRICULTURAL LAND RESOURCES: p. 8 , 10-3 : The Town Board recognizes that the proposed action would result in the conversion of more than ten acres of agricultural land to non agricultural use. The Board believes that this may be a small to moderate impact. The Town Board observes, however, that the applicant for the project is the current user of the agricultural land and that he is asking that it be converted due to the uneconomic nature of continuing it as an agricultural use. The Board o ripe Town of Ulysses 5 Special Town Board Meeting August 6 , 1991 also observes that the agricultural uses in the past had only marginal economic utility both to the current owner and to the community. IMPACT ON AESTHETIC RESOURCES: p. 9, 11-1: The Town Board recognizes that the proposed change to business district will result in construction of commercial buildings on now vacant land, thus resulting in change to the visual pattern presented. The Board observes, however, that the surrounding %'• present land use includes industrial storage of petro chemicals on an adjacent piece of property. There are other • commercial uses in close vicinity. The Board believes that properly designed buildings and facilities will not be in .t marked contrast to the overall visual use patterns presently existing. The Board also observes that the location of the land does not offer any significant views from adjacent • lands , roads or public ways. o The Board concludes that a visual change is an inevitable consequence of the action but that the negative impacts would be both speculative and minimal . IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION: P. 10, 14-1: The Town Board recognizes that the action if undertaken could result in construction of a commercial area which will result in an increase of traffic. The applicant has stated that for the next 20 years approximately 23 acres of the entire subject site would be developed commercially. Further existing zoning regulations would effectively limit the amount of development within the area. The applicant estimates that the maximum hourly increase in traffic at 503 trips . The Board believes that based on the projections presented that the traffic will gradually increase over time and that it will be acceptable and will not have a significant impact on the existing highway system. NOISE AND ODOR IMPACTS: P.10, 16-3 : The Town Board recognizes the action if approved will result in commercial construction over a period of time. During and after construction the Board recognizes that noise generated on the site will be greater than what currently is generated from a vacant field. However, the Board believes that the ambient noise during and after construction will be no • greater than what currently exists within other business zones within the Town, and that it will be within an acceptable range, and will not be a significant impact . IMPACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD: P.11, 18-4: The Town Board recognizes that the proposed action may result in the following impacts : The proposal is that the area in question be rezoned from residential to business . This could result in a change in the density of the land use. The Board observes, however, that the present allowed use as a residential area allows multi-family construction to go forward as a matter of right with a density in excess of 200 units . The Board believes that this property if developed to its currently allowed maximum would have greater negative impact than the use proposed both in terms of transportation, sanitation, water demands , and school facilities . The Town Board believes that this land if developed in accordance to the proposed zoning may create additional demand for certain community services such as police and fire protection. However, the Board also believes that as compared to the currently allowed uses including relatively t (•4 ( i '�,.}l;t'e:'('i t( r. a \�,''�;;;�. Vn4 ,. �'�: � 'J tl i 1 ; i Ir .l'1•�'•` et Town of Ulysses ea/ 6 Special Town Board Meeting August 6, 1991 high density multi-family, that this proposal will not be creating a demand greater than what is already contemplated. The Board observes that this is particularly true in terms • of demand for school space and notes that the proposed project will result in considerable tax revenues for the Town and for the school district . The Board believes that this additional revenue will offset any increase demand for additional community services and will be a substantial benefit to the school budget without any increase in demand. • The Town Board observes that the proposed action will also have a positive impact by creating employment . The Town Board believes that encouraging commercial business growth in this area would be beneficial by creating jobs in which • people can be employed without having to travel all the way to Ithaca. The Town Board also believes that this rezoning will have other beneficial impacts by retaining in the local community shoppers who otherwise are commuting. The Town Board believes rather than having a negative impact on the local Village that by bringing in employees and retaining shoppers that the entire area will benefit over the long run. CONCLUSIONS: The Town Board observes that the applicant has completed Part I of the EAF and has presented for the Board's review estimates based on a twenty year projection of demand and development . The applicant states that the estimates prepared were based upon the commercial development of • twenty three acres which he asserts is the maximum expected, due to economic demands , over the next twenty years. The - developer also has asserted that the plan thus prepared, and used for the projections and estimates contained in the Part I , were based on the maximum allowed density, as contained in the Town business district . The Board agrees that currently the effective limit to commercial density results from the required ration of •- parking space to net floor space. The Town Board of Ulysses observes that the request for rezoning included 38 . 6 acres of land owned by the applicant, and that if the entire 38 . 6 acres were to be developed to minimal could be large and significant . Therefore, the Town Board believes that by • reducing the rezoning request to the 23 acres contemplated by the applicant in his submittal , that the otherwise significant impacts can be adequately mitigated and lessened to an acceptable level . The Board discussed question 19: Is there, or is there likely to he, public controversy related to potential adverse environmental impacts? and did Part 3 - Evaluation of. the Importance of Impacts as follows : PART 3 EVALUATION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF IMPACTS (RE: AUBLE REZONING APPLICATION) It is the judgement of the Town Board that a 38 acre Zoning Change could potentially have a large impact on the community based on our current zoning and a typical commercial build out . A reduced commercial change to 23 acres however should mitigate the large impact as demonstrated by the concept plan presented by the developer and relating that concept plan to the requirements in our zoning (re. parking requirements, set backs, etc. ) . Mrs . Georgia was asked to send copies of : Town of Ulysses 7 Special Town Board Meeting August 6, 1991 1. Application for re-zoning. 2 . Copy of map that is a potential typical build out related to our zoning. 3. Part 1 - Full Environmental Assessment Form. 4. Part 2 - Project Impacts and their Magnitude. 5 . Town Boards responses to the yes answers on Part 2. 6. Part 3 - Evaluation of the Importance of Impacts . These copies were sent to: Tompkins County Planning, Village of Trumansburg, Town of Covert, Town Attorney Bruce Wilson, County of Seneca. The Board set September 3, 1991 at 7:00 pm for the public hearing. The Clerk will find out the availability of the school auditoriums. Hearing no further business , Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn the Special Board Meeting, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mr.s Stover. Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm TOWN OF ULYSSES 100 REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING • . August 13 , 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; James Meeker, Highway Superintendent ; Alex Rachun, Zoning/Building Insp. ; Jeanne Vanderbilt , Bookkeeper; Marsha Georgia , Town Clerk. Mr . Hogan, Supervisor, called the Regular Town Board meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8 :00 pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United ` States of America . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mrs . stover to approve the minutes of the following meetings: Regular Town Board Meeting 7/9/91; Public Hearing 7/16/91; '. Special Board Meeting 7/16/91 and Special Board Meeting 7/18/91 . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department Mr. Hogan read the report for July (see attached) . Report : Representative James Mason • Absent Claims F, Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #258 - 293 in the amount of $24,051 . 89, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye • Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Supervisor' s Financial Report Mr. Hogan asked Mrs . Vanderbilt to go over the budget stats . Mrs . Vanderbilt said that we have some overdrawn situations that need to have budget adjustments , which is customary. Youth payroll was discussed. Mr. Hogan suggested setting a time to have a meeting to discuss the budget and adjustments . This meeting was set for August 19th at 7 :00 pm. Mr. Reitz asked if actual figures had been received from the State about our reduction. Mr. Hogan said Yes , a letter from Marty Luster. Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Mr. Hogan said we have received a request from Sleeping Bear Futons for an amendment to Development District #16 which is the i .Y •I �. S•S.. .�'t. Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting August 13 , 1991 • old John Deere Dealership on Rt 96. Alex has reviewed the request . This will basically be a retail store and related light manufacturing. There is a legal description, other forms as required and the EAF short form. It is complete. Mr . Reitz stated that as long as these specifications can be included with the description. Think it should be forwarded to our Planning Board for their consideration. Mr. Hogan suggested .•� setting a date for a public hearing. The date for the public hearing was set for September 10th at 7 : 00 pm prior to the Regular Town Board Meeting. o•• OLD BUSINESS Site Plan Review Need to digest comments from the public . Mrs . Duddleston asked if it was possible to put this on the ballot and let the people vote? Mr. Wilson said it is adopting an ordinance and is normally a Town Board responsibility . Some discussion ensued. Mr . Reitz said that after his review of the document and hearing • the comments from the public that he would move to send this back to the Planning Board for reconsideration, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Lengthy discussion ensued with Mr. Tyler and the Board, regarding various aspects of the document . Mr. Hogan said there are many important considerations coming up shortly, keep putting this off it will end up costing you dearly. Have reviewed this document , and don' t feel there is anything in it that is unreasonable. • Talked with people who signed the petition; they said they hadn' t read Site Plan and didn' t really know what it was about . Feel • this document is important and needed now. Hearing no further discussion Mr. Hogan called for a vote on the motion on the floor. Mr. Hogan Nay Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye • Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Mr. Tyler asked how the Planning Board should proceed. . .Mr . Hogan suggested a joint meeting between the Planning Board and Town Board and review the entire document . The Planning Board will be meeting next on Tuesday, August 20th; will try to be finished • with business and meet with the Town Board at 8 : 00 pm. Mr. Reitz asked about the vacancy on the Planning Board. Mr . Hogan read a letter of resignation from Roland Reynolds . should • put a notice in the paper and a time that we will be available to interview interested applicants . Suggest a Saturday morning; this is to finish the unexpired term of Roland which would be 12/92 . Mr. Hogan mentioned meeting September 14th at 8 : 00 am, with letters of interest due by September 13 . Will also contact former applicants for the Planning Board to see if they are still interested and Mrs . Georgia will advertise in the newspaper . Water Study Mr . Hogan said that he had met with County Planner Jim Hansen regarding the Appalachian Regional Grant that is available for water systems . There was a list of requirements and one item we did not have was an engineering sketch and a cost estimate for extending the current water system up RT 96 to the Town line into Jacksonville. The County Planner has asked us to supply the • ..d.4i`. .i.. •':. ,yA, .:Y. .. �(4i. ,Ij• �'i. ',�? t �, .l .SvL. 'F . , Town of Ulysses 3 • Regular Town Board Meeting August 13 , 1991 • sketch and estimate and I told him we will depending on the cost . • The last engineering report was provided by Hunt Engineering. . . >4. called them and asked the cost of an up-date. . . and was told that an estimated figure would be $1 ,500 . Told Jim Hansen it would be $1 , 500 . and he felt that was high and mentioned contacting TO Miller . . . and spoke with David Herrick. Met with David, he had a preliminary sketch. . .said it is the City of Ithaca water and the • pressure at the end of the line is not good, so if we want to push it to Jacksonville would require another pumping station. Rough estimate. . . it ' s 25 ,000 ft . , about 5 miles , $40 . a foot for pipe. . . looking at about a million, two hundred thousand. This Grant is available for economic development; Pleasant Grove • Assoc . is talking about building four 25 , 000 sq. ft . office buildings . . . the Planning Board is suggesting that this would tie in with economic development . It would offer good criteria . Also called HUD. . . there is money available, but interest rate is predicated on the average income. If average income is $14 ,000 . or under the interest rate is 6%; if over $20 ,000 . the interest rate is 6. 8%; over that would refer to a bank. This is FHA not HUD. Mr. Reitz asked if Mr. Hogan had talked with any of our Water • Committee members to see what their recommendations are? Mr. Hogan said No. • • Mrs . Zabawsky said they haven' t met in quite some time. . . last we heard that Mr . Hogan would be talking to Jim Hansen. Not done our formal presentation as yet , think that was the next step after we decided that the Board had to decide if they wanted to • spend the money. Mr . Hogan said that this Grant is an annual thing; there is another organization that will put the Grant together for us , if • • we can come up with the sketch and cost estimates . There is an application date of August 19th for this and if we don' t make it •.• this year can still apply next year. • Mr . Reitz asked if any discussion had taken place regarding coming from the Village of Trumansburg to Jacksonville? Mr. Hogan said he had talked with David Herrick about this and it is an option. Only problem is that the Village's water system has • problems too, they only have one pump and pressure problems . There are many options. . . the question is we are talking a lot of dollars and not much density. Unless you get a lot of grant money you are talking about a very few people picking up a big cost . Guess we need to decide now if we are going to spend the $1 ,050 .00 . . . this is for TG Miller for water system sketch from • Ithaca' s water system up to Jacksonville. Mr. Reitz said that it seems that if it 's an economic Grant . . . there are numerous economic potentials between Trumansburg and Jacksonville. . . again it would benefit the Village if we can help them with their water system. Think this should be explored and see if Millers would do this evaluation, and would charge the same price. Mrs . Zabawsky said she felt a better, long-term solution would be to get the water from Bolton Point , or the Ithaca area . Mr . Reitz said he understands that the cap on this Grant is • $150 ,000 . To answer your question of whether to spend the money. . . I would be willing to spend the money if TG Miller would • also include other options that are under consideration for the 1 . • •.1• .. "r*'.;.:, . err �' \'. •. ') • L 1 1 J A'1 `.1'1 I. I '.1 .II +1 ) Town of Ulysses 4°14 Regular Town Board Meeting August 13 , 1991 ' r same price. There is money set aside under Master Plan. • Mr . Hogan stated that he can talk to Jim Hansen again. . .Mr . Reitz • said we shouldn' t stop. . .Mr . Hogan said, No, it ' s a serious problem. Asked Mrs . Zabawsky how close they are to an overview of locations for the water study. Mrs . Zabawsky said about two • months . . .what is left is computer compilation of information. Mr . Hogan suggested that perhaps someone at Cornell would help to compile the information. Mr. Hogan asked Mrs . Zabawsky to get back to the Board before the next Regular Town Board Meeting on September 10th. If everyone concurs , will put this on hold for now. . .need to take a look at our budget . It is a serious need, and if there is Grant money available, need to try to get it . General consensus to table this item until September. • Auble Rezoning • Mr . Hogan said at the meeting the other night , completed Part 2 of SEQR and set a public hearing date for September 3 , 1991 in the elementary school auditorium at 7 : 00 pm. Personnel Policy Mr . Hogan stated that a date needs to be set to finish the policy. The Board needs to meet and iron out the language. When finished will go to Jeanne Vanderbilt and then send it to County Personnel and Town Attorney for review. A meeting was set for • September 14th to review the policy; after Planning Board • interviews . Budget Review • Set the date for August 19th at 7 : 00 pm. Mr . Reitz asked Mr. Rachun if he had heard anything about Spruce Row SEQR action. Need to set public hearing. Mr. Rachun said he hasn' t heard anything yet but can set a tentative date for public • hearing. Tuesday, September 17th at 7 : 00 pm was set for the public hearing. Mrs . Georgia will advertise, and advise Mr. Weber of the date. • • NEW BUSINESS 1991 Budget Sheets Mr . Hogan stated that all budget requests should be in by second week of September . Mrs . Stover said there is a joint • Village/Town meeting on September 18th at 7 :30 pm. . . to discuss youth and summer programs . Mr . Reitz stated that the Village has reaffirmed their position not to allow their law enforcement agency to leave the Village. • They have asked us to consider having their policy agency cover immediately outside the Village activities , ie : Trumansburg Fair , etc . . Mr. Hogan said we have discussed contacting the new sheriff and talking about our feelings of coverage for the area . Will invite him to our September meeting. Mr . Reitz said then we are going to do nothing for the upcoming activities? Mr. Hogan said there has never been anything in the past, right? Mr. Reitz said what has happened in the past is that under a joint agreement with the Fair Assoc. , the Village provided that coverage. The rules are now changed. Mr. Hogan said then if the Fair Assoc. wants coverage then they are going to have to pay for it or ask the Sheriff ' s Dept . to cover. Mr. Reitz said then we • Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting August 13 , 1991 should make a point to contact the Fair Assoc. if that is what the Board is deciding . Mr . Weatherby asked if that wasn' t our responsibility? Mr . Hogan said he doesn ' t think so. We pay County taxes so should get coverage. Mrs . Stover mentioned that the recycling center will be closed August 24th during the Fair; open the 31st ; close it Sept . 7th. Dumpsters will come out before the Fair and hopefully clean up the area before the dumpsters go back in on the 31st . Mr . Reitz asked, under New Business , if there was any word from the State on the RT 96 detour, replacement of the Halseyville Bridge? Mr . Hogan said he has that under correspondence; they have notified us of a different detour. REPORTS Town Clerk - Mrs . Georgia reported that for the month of July total fees collected were $2 , 295 . 23 of which $1 ,716. 26 was turned over to the Supervisor. Monday started conservation license sales . . .major changes made by State. Little behind in typing and would like to request someone move for an Executive Session to discuss a personnel matter. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to consider an Executive Session to follow the Regular Town Board Meeting to discuss a personnel matter , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston and unanimously approved. Highway Superintendent - Mr . Meeker reported that roadsides have been mowed. Due to some budget cuts , the County no longer wants us to mow the County roads for the remainder of the year. Perhaps can put that in the newspaper; notify residents to contact the County if they have complaints . Also did some gravel work, ditch work, paved and shouldered Rabbit Run Road, removed dead trees , etc. Zoning/Building Inspector - Mr . Rachun reported that fourteen permits had been issued. Only one start this month. The Board of Zoning Appeals heard five appeals , all were granted. Deputy Zoning Officer has been busy. The Fire Inspector has also been busy , finished up with the Village and starting inspections in the Town. Town Board Members - Mr. Reitz announced that the Joint Youth Committee will meet . . .have received five proposals for 1992 . Hope to put recommendations together and have for the budget process . Mr . Meeker asked how many folks were riding in the parade so he could provide an appropriate vehicle. . .discussion ensued. . . three decided they would ride. Correspondence Mr. Hogan received the following: Notice from Ithaca Journal with increased price, report from Justice Ward. . . 25 cases , TC Chamber of Commerce, NYS/DOT concerning CHIPS, RT 96 bridge detour , NYS retirement information, TC Planning Board minutes , letter from Catherine Stover notifying Town Board that she owns more than 5% of Stover Lumber (per auditor) , letter from Larry Reverby, TC Health Dept . , NYS/DMV regarding license plates/parking permits for disabled, TC Dept . Health regarding Grassroots Festival and/or mass gathering. .r' ` A :.i 1 • Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting August 13, 1991 Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn the meeting and to go to an Executive Session, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs , Duddleston. Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 10:10pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L . Georgia Town Clerk pm i 1 TRUMANSBURG FIRE COMPANY SUMMARY OF RESPONSES FOR JULY 1991 FIRE CALLS FOR JULY 1991 Village Ulysses Covert Hector Mutual Aid 8 16 2 1 Total Fire Calls 26 Manhours in service 184. 25 AMBULANCE CALLS FOR JULY 1991 Village Ulysses Covert Hector Mutual Aid 10 20 4 2 4 (Interlaken) 1 (South Seneca) Total Ambulance Calls 41 Manhours in service 25O .75 TOTAL CALLS FOR JULY 6 7 • TOTAL MANHOURS IN SERVICE 4 3 5 TRAINING HOURS FOR JULY 1991 hours IQTAL CALLS FOR 1991 179 TQTAL MANHOURS IN SERVICE FOR 1991 1470.75 TOTAL TRAINING HOURS FOR 1991 TOWN OF ULYSSES lee SPECIAL BOARD MEETING August 19, 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Carolyn Duddleston, Thomas • Reitz, Catherine Stover, Councilpeople; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk, Jeanne Vanderbilt, Bookkeeper. Purpose: Budget Mr. Hogan opened the Special Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses at 7 :20pm. Much discussion took place regarding Revenue Sharing. Discussion took place for Capital Improvements on Town Hall . Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following: Resolved: That the Town of Ulysses withdraw monies from the Town of Ulysses Capital Improvement General Fund for the purpose of building repairs and equipment . Said expenditure to be in the amount of $4,000.00. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Approved. The Board made the following transfers to cover overdrawn accounts. General Fund: $104. to A1330.04 from A1990.04 $3,000 . to A7310 .01 from A7310.04 The above transfers were moved by Mrs. Duddleston, seconded by Mr . Reitz. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Approved. Highway Fund: $600. to DA9040.08 from DA2665 $511 . to DB9040 .08 from DB5110 .04 Part-Town Fund: $251. to 88160 .04 from 88160 .01 The above transfers were moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Stover. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Approved. • • t Town of Ulysses 2 - • Special Meeting/Budget • •. August 19,1991 Hearing no further discussion the meeting was unanimously ' adjourned at 10 :00PM. Respectfully submitted, • Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm :a • S • TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING AUGUST 20, 1991 7:00 P.M. PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler: Planning Board Members - x;? Budd Stover, Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins, Seville Reulein ; Secretary Rita Brown ; Zoning/Building Insp. • Alex Rachun. • OTHERS PRESENT: Carla Pelkie, Carl Mann. The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. Minutes of the July B, 1991 meeting were read . Seville Reulein asked if a survey had been done yet on the Taughannock Handcrafted Log & Timber Construction, Inc. PUD. Alex Rachun indicated that he had not received one yet , but it was one of the conditions of the Town's approval . . :: Being no further discussion, Gerald Perkins made a motion to approve the minutes: seconded by Seville Reulein. Unanimously approved. . • Carla Pelkie was there to present her request for amendment to Development District No. 16. She would like to move her business, Sleeping Bear Futons , to this . ., location. Alex Rachun handed out copies of the amendment to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses, adopted April B, 1978, to create Development District No. 16. Since some of the buildings that appeared on the original map have been moved, Dave Tyler asked Carla Pelkie to draw on the map the locations of the buildings as they •— exist now. Carla Pelkie indicated that she had not taken title to this property • yet. She plans to open by the end of September or the beginning of October. The question was raised regarding #10 on the Short Environmental Assessment Form as to what types of permit would be involved and from what agency. She indicated that at • some point she intends to put in a concrete floor in the pole barn (shed) and this would require a building permit . This would involve Town Board action. Also, in questions #11 no agency name and permit/approval type was listed. Add: P.U.D. John Deere dealership, District #16, approved 3/14/88. Carla Pelkie indicated that the showroom will be in the front part of the building . The square footage of the retail space would be approximately 1 ,500 sq. ft . The total square footage is 3,100 and she plans to use about one half of the space for showroom. The balance would be work space, Dave Tyler asked about parking. She indicated that it was approved for 15 cars, but that she hever has that many cars at one time. Dave Tyler asked Alex if this parking space was • appropriate. Alex explained that this was the formula that was used for John Deere. Carla indicated that the pole barn will be used for storage for now, but at some point she would like to fix it up to possibly use that as production area. The pole barn is approx . 1 ,200 square feet . Carla indicated that activity would be going on there during normal working hours, and there was the possibility that she would be there sewing at night. Store hours would be 11 :00-5:00 Monday through Friday , and 10:00-5:00 on Saturdays. Employees begin work at 9:00 a.m. Right now there are only two employees besides herself . The building would be used strictly +or her • business . She also sells fabrics. She explained that the wooden frames of the furniture comes all made. The only thing she would be doing is assembly of the material and actually making the futons there on the site. • Carla indicated that all the materials that she would be using would be cotton, polyester or foam. Dave Tyler asked what signage she would be using . She explained that right now she has a small sign and there is a post already there, so the sign will not be any bigger than what was there originally. The permanent sign will be "The Sleeping Bear Futon" sign. She may have another small sign to advertise fabrics but that would be one that she could put out and take in . It is not a lighted sign but she may want to have it lit at some point. There are existing security lights there that she will use. She plans to keep the grass area mowed. She has no plans for the garage area at this time. Alex Rachun stated that County Planning had sent a letter to Marsha Georgia stating that "no recommendation was indicated by the County Planning Department and you are free to act without prejudice." The Board then reviewed Part II and II1 of the EAF. The Planning Board recommends that Development District No. 16 be amended with the following changes: 1 . The proposed use for said district is: Retail store for assorted interior decorating specialty items and assembly. 3.a. The investory of retail items shall be consistent with retail intcrior home decorating shop. • . . , • •;i.. •r l.:{.?. . "1' • • .. I I`•A_S .. '%).re .^IIAU ;1 r telt • 3.d. Items for sale may be assembled on the premises and shall consist ' L. of cutting, sewing and assembling of futons, frames, and related • items. 3.g. Lit sign and security lights are permitted. Add: 3.k . Retail space shall not exceed 2,000 square feet; the balance of the space will be work area. • 3.1 . The pole barn will be limited to storage and future production. • 3.m. Hours will be normal retail hours 8:00-5:00 with some seasonal hours and evening work hours. With the above amendments, this supercedes and voids the previous Development District #16. Seville Reulein made the motion to accept the proposal as presented with the above modifications. Seconded by Gerald Perkins. Being no further discussion, Dave Tyler called for a vote as follows: • Geraldine Keil Aye Seville Reulein Aye Gerald Perkins Aye Budd Stover Aye David Tyler Aye With unanimous vote in favor, the Planning Board turns this proposal for amendment • over to the Town Board for action. Hearing no further business, the Planning Board meeting was adjourned at 8:00 p.m. • • I . • • . t) " 1. .. : .:V:!, � el r"v � .•'�il � � C: .. 'i'• . i:' r �i ., \-29:; 2 -2* -'-'-:”. '::.-. .a �C�. -;;;"-002::: , p< 2,1 , 2 • i TOWN OF ULYSSES JOINT TOWN BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD MEETING AUGUST 20, 1991 ,. 8:00 P.M. t. PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan ; Town Board Members, Thomas Reitz , "i Catherine Stover , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby; Chairman of Planning Board David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - • Budd Stover , Geraldine Keii , Gerald Perkins, Seville Reuleln; ..- Zoning/Building Insp . , Alex Rachun ; Secretary, Rita Brown. OTHERS PRESENT: Town Attorney, Bruce Wilson ; David Auble, Carl Mann. ' ci re The meeting was called to order at 8:05 p.m. David Tyler started the meeting by stating that one of the things that was talked about the previous week was that some concern was expressed about the Planning Board making the final decision. Dave had suggested at that meeting of having an initial appeals process to the Town Board if someone was aggrieved. Bruce Wilson had done '„ "' some research on that and Dave Tyler asked him to inform the Boards of his findings. Bruce Wilson - Basically what the research has shown that there is no authority for • the appellate process within the administrative system so that the only appellate process that would come from a Planning Board, if in fact the Site Plan was established, would be through the Article 78. 274A of the State Statute which in Town Law enables the Planning Board to be designated for Site Review. So if a site review is adopted and delegated to Planning Board, the Planning Board would have ' initial and final administrative function and thereafter a judicial review would have to be by Article 78 from the Planning Board. There is no way that we can modify this. By enabling legislation from the Town Board you can do certain things but you can' t be an appellate review. The Planning Board does not have the authority to change zoning for instance. You can limit the areas of site review. Effectively, what you delegate to the Planning Board can be controlled by the Town Board but once it is delegated there is no review process by the Town Board. Tom Reitz - Bruce , can we , in the same concepts, break up the delegation of powers? For instance , the Planning Board approved certain minor projects and the Town Board • approves major projects. Can you break up the Site Plan Review approval? Bruce Wilson - Effectively, once you delegate a certain area there is no review • procedure by the Town Board, but in answer to your question, what you delegate is always up to you so were you to delegate the Planning Board certain categories, then • you delegate them. If you don' t delegate them, you can either not have them covered in site review procedure, or the Town Board itself could create another enabling statute by which the Town Board itself has categorical areas for which it could ' . review. You would have to be very particular about how your define those categories, because then you get into the situation of who do you go to in the first instance. I can see down the road litigation problems. ~ Tom Reitz stated that site review has been in force in the Town for almost 20 years now in a slightly different concept. It wasn' t called Site Plan Review. It was called Planned Unit Development Review. Bruce Wilson - Because the Town has retained that , you're absolutely right . The Town has that function there where they are reviewing the nature of the siting of buildings on a site , i .e. , site review. • Dave Tyler - That's very different. A development district is zoning. This is not changing zoning. Its reviewing a plan not doing anything legislative. ' illBruce Wilson - Its reviewing a site . As I mentioned before , Planning Board cannot change the zoning. If it comes in in some other category all they can do is say, yes this is an allowed use , this is the set back , all those rules still apply. But . within that, the theory of Planning Board in site review, is to create an organized function by which health standards, fire access, all those kinds of things that you worry about, are satisfied. It is a review process. You are functioning . differently because the Town Board can take an area that is not a permissive zoned area and making it a proper function. Planning Board can' t do that under site review. Zoning stays the same. Bill Hogan - Basically the reason the Town Board came back to meet with the Planning Board is to change some of the wording in this document. There are a couple of 1004 `. • r.• • major things we want to do, but let's Just start going through this page by page and • talk about wording changes. In the public hearing there appeared to be a lot of • concern about all of these Items and some figures thrown around that it was going to • cost a small business $10 ,000 to do these things which really isn' t so. I think when we get to those items it would be a good idea to go down through them and find • out just what is involved. I think that there Is lot of fear that is really unfounded. Catherine Stover asked could the process be the same way as a PUD where it could be reviewed by the Planning Board and then final decision by the Town Board. Bruce :1 Wilson indicated that yes it could. You can enact site review whether you've delegated the Planning Board or whether you retain it as a Town Board you can still do the same thing. According to the Association of the Town it is not a common practice, but its possible . Town Board Itself does have the power to enact site review. • • Bill Hogan - Did you just say the Town Board could do the whole thing? Bruce Wilson - True. • • • • Bill Hogan - Or could the Planning Board do it and give it back to the Town Board? • Bruce Wilson - No. If you've given it to the Planning Board, the Planning Board has it and the Town Board can' t review it. You either delegate it or you keep it , but • • • you can't have both bodies reviewing the same process. The Boards then started reviewing the Site Plan Review from the beginning. To make section 310 .2 more clear, we renumbered 3, 4 and 5. Number 3 becomes 05; Number 4 becomes #3; and Number 5 becomes 04. Number 5 should now read: Exterior alterations or additions to existing structures not otherwise excepted above under this • paragraph which would: a, b & c . The Board discussed having a separate section in the back just for definitions, i .e. land use activity, structure , etc. , however, it was decided that these are already defined in the Town Zoning Ordinance. After discussion it was decided that the statement on Occupancy classification changes in • #2 should be moved to the beginning of 310 .2. Change the first sentence of 310.2 - • Applicability to read: "All land use activities as defined in the Town Zoning Ordinance within the town requiring a permit of any kind including occupancy classification changes as per New York State Building Code, 701 .1 shall require site plan review and approval before being undertaken, except the following." • John Czamanski had sent a letter to Bill Hogan suggesting a few changes. One of the changes would be in 04 regarding agricultural produce. Change placement to place. There was discussion regarding making the Sketch Plan Conference optional . It was decided that the Planning Board really needs a sketch plan to familiarize the Board with what they plan to do. It may save the applicant time if they just submit a sketch to the Zoning Officer at the time they apply for a permit. Change first sentence to read: A sketch plan conference shall be held between the Zoning Officer and applicant In the last paragraph of section 311 , change sentence to read: On the basis of the results of the sketch plan conference , . . Also, move the last two paragraphs of section 311 to Section 312 after #21 . Alex Rachun and Carolyn Duddleston commented that Section 310.6 has scared a lot of people off already. It was decided to delete this section completely. • Tom Reitz commented that 312.a was another one that has raised a few questions from residents to him regarding the Town Schedule of Fees. It is the responsibility of III the Town Board to set those fees. Bill Hogan stated that the Town Board would have to review all of the fees. • Bill Hogan asked Alex Rachun to give a quick run threw of the 21 items on the check list . He suggested that maybe a little note in back of some of these would make it a little clearer for people . Alex stated that the assumption here is that a project • coming in is going to be a commercial venture and something other than a residential venture and that more than likely is going to require a plan, or some minimal form • of engineering to get the project off anyway. It was agreed to add after #3, (survey may be required) . Add after #4 and #5, ( topography map may be required via SEOR) . ''•J='i tl;t:• a St' ' • j •. ' "^.. fir: .?. ? ) y. i.. {• ., r i .: :.r•+,,i; < r „Foe y • ' Bruce Wilson suggested that we change the sentence in Section 312.b to read: Information drawn from the following Preliminary Site Plan Proposal checklist to the extent that it is "needed" ( instead of available) and applicable . Bill Hogan - A lot of people were concerned that we have a lot of things in here that were not necessary. As i see it , if you were a small businessman going to a bank for a construction loan, you would need most of the items on this list anyway. i don' t see where this is a real hardship for anyone , nor do I see it as a costly venture . Tor. Reitz - Is it reasonabie or possible that we would have available in the Town • some of these documents as necessary? Re : Town of Ulysses Topo Map? Yes. Alex Rachun - I looked through all of these on this checklist , and I saw nothing in there that would cost you more money than what already would be required by other agencies or the state , ie , building codes, SEAR, etc. Section 313 - Tom Reitz questioned the word adequacy in h. He felt it was a judgment call both by the applicant and the Planning Board. It was agreed to change adequacy to consideration. It also was agreed to drop the word adequacy in g. On page 5, Section 314, it was felt that the second paragraph regarding private consultants, raised a lot of fear in people. Because there are so many agencies to call on for assistance, le, DEC, Tompkins County Planning Consultants, Association of Towns can call a lawyer for an 800 number , Army Corps, all available experts for no fee, it was decided to delete this paragraph completely. Discussion took place regarding the 45 day time period that a public hearing can be conducted. David Tyler explained that if it was a large project, you might actually need that length of time . The Planning Board's intent is not to take the 45 days, but to get it done as soon as possible. It was decided to change this to read "no • later than 45 days" . Also change Section 315 to read no later than 45 days. • David Tyler suggested that we change Section 317.1 to read: Prior to taking action on the final site development plan , the Planning Board must, if applicable, (add) or unless previously referred, refer the plan to the county planning agency for advisory review. . . Also change Section 317.2 to read no later than 45 days. . . Catherine Stover asked exactly what we were looking for in section 316.b regarding detailed sizing. David Tyler explained that we were looking for the final sizing and materials, as this could be different than what was shown in the preliminary material . It was agreed to change b to read: Any changes or additions in sizing and final material specification of all required improvements. Budd Stover asked, required by who? Alex explained it could be required by your engineer, the building • • code , SEAR, Health Department - 'riot arbitrary changes, but any required changes. Alex Rachun felt that Section 317.2 regarding disapproval of a final proposal needed more clarification by stating the reasons that a proposal may be disapproved. It • was agreed by the Boards to change 317.2 b to read: "Upon disapproval of a final • proposal , the Planning Board shall so inform the Zoning Officer and the Zoning Officer shall not issue a Building Permit to the applicant. The Planning Board must make specific written findings as to the criteria set forth in Section 313 above before it can disapprove a final proposal . The Planning Board shall also notify the ' applicant in writing of its decision and its reasons for disapproval . A copy of the . resolution of disapproval shall be immediately filed with the Town Clerk ." Section 318 - David Tyler suggested adding "and" to a and b of 318. There was discussion regarding the word noncontroversial in the first paragraph of Section 318. It was decided to change this word to "low-impact" . The Boards decided to add a Severability statement. This statement will be numbered 323.2. The statement shall read: "Severability. The provisions of this local law are severable . If any article , section, paragraph or provision of this local law shall be invalid, such invalidity shall apply only to the article , section, • paragraph or provision(s) adjudged invalid and the rest of this local law shall remain valid and effective." • It also was decided to include an Enforcement section to protect the Town against someone not complying with what they have agreed to do. It was agreed to state Section 323.2 as Enforcement. To read: Enforcement of violations of this local law sha.li be pursuant to Article II , Section 1 and Article X, Section 1 of the Zoning Ordinance . IA ti David Tyler asked Bruce Wilson if another public hearing would be necessary since we have made these changes. It was agreed that we would hold another public hearing since we made substantial changes. The meeting was adjourned at 10:32 p.m. 1 1 a a ,1 , 4 • •111 TOWN OF ULYSSES JOINT TOWN BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD MEETING AUGUST 20, 1991 8:00 P.M. • PRESENT: supervisor Hogan; Town Board Members, Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby; Chairman • • of Planning Board David Tyler; Planning •Board Members - Budd Stover, Geraldine Keil , Gerald Perkins, Seville Reulein; Zoning/Building Insp, , Alex Rachun; Secretary, Rita Brown. OTHERS PRESENT: Town Attorney, Bruce Wilson; David Auble, Carl Mann. The meeting was called to order at 8:05 p.m. • David Tyler started the meeting by stating that one of the things that was talked • about the previous week was that some concern was expressed about the Planning Board making the final decision. Dave had suggested at that meeting of having an initial appeals process to the Town Board if someone was aggrieved. Bruce Wilson had done • :'• some research on that and Dave Tyler asked him to inform the Boards of his findings. ' e- Bruce Wilson - Basically what the research has shown that there is no authority for the appellate process within the administrative system so that the only appellate process that would come from a Planning Board, if in fact the Site Plan was established, would be through the Article 78. 274A of the State Statute which in Town Law enables the Planning Board to be designated for Site Review. So if a site review is adopted and delegated to Planning Board, the Planning Board would have initial and final administrative function and thereafter a judicial review would have to be by Article 78 from the Planning Board. There is no way that we can modify this. By enabling legislation from the Town Board you can do certain things but you can't be an appellate review. The Planning Board does not have the • authority to change zoning for instance. You can limit the areas of site review. Effectively, what you delegate to the Planning Board can be controlled by the Town • Board but once it is delegated there is no review process by the Town Board. Tom Reitz - Bruce, can we, in the same concepts, break up the delegation of powers? For instance, the Planning Board approved certain minor projects and the Town Board approves major projects. Can you break up the Site Plan Review approval? Bruce Wilson - Effectively, once you delegate a certain area there is no review • procedure by the Town Board, but in answer to your question, what you delegate is always up to you so were you to delegate the Planning Board certain categories, then you delegate them. If you don't delegate them, you can either not have them covered in site review procedure, or the Town Board itself could create another enabling • statute by which the Town Board itself has categorical areas for which it could review. You would have to be very particular about how your define those categories, because then you get into the situation of who do you go to in the first instance. I can see down the road litigation problems. • Tom Reitz stated that site review has been in force in the Town for almost 20 years now in a slightly different concept. It wasn't called Site Flan Review. It was called Planned Unit Development Review. •r 1l �, • Bruce Wilson - Because the Town has retained that , you're absolutely right . The Town has that function there where they are reviewing the nature of the siting of buildings on a site, i .e. , site review. Dave Tyler - That's very different. A development district is zoning. This is not • changing zoning. Its reviewing a plan not doing anything legislative. • Bruce Wilson - Its reviewing a site. As I mentioned before, Planning Board cannot • change the zoning. If it comes in in some other category all they can do is say, yes this is an allowed use, this is the set back , all those rules still apply. But within that, the theory of Planning Board in site review, is to create an organized function by which health standards, fire access, all those kinds of things that you worry about , are satisfied. It is a review process. You are functioning differently because the Town Board can take an area that is not a permissive zoned • area and making it a proper function. Planning Board can't do that under site review. Zoning stays the same. Bill Hogan - Basically the reason the Town Board came back to meet with the Planning • Board is to change some of the wording in this document. There are a couple of major things we want to do, but let's just start going through this page by page and talk about wording changes. In the public hearing there appeared to be a lot of • concern about all of these items and some figures thrown around that it was going to cost a small business $10,000 to do these things which really isn't so. I think when we get to those items it would be a good idea to go down through them and find out just what is involved. I think that there is lot of fear that is really unfounded. • - Catherine Stover asked could the process be the same way as a PUD where it could be reviewed by the Planning Board and then final decision by the Town Board. Bruce Wilson indicated that yes it could. You can enact site review whether you've delegated the Planning Board or whether you retain it as a Town Board you can still do the same thing. According to the Association of the Town it is not a common • practice, but its possible. Town Board itself does have the power to enact site review. Bill Hogan - Did you just say the Town Board could do the whole thing? • Bruce Wilson - True. • Bill Hogan - Or could the Planning Board do it and give it back to the Town Board? Bruce Wilson - No. If you've given it to the Planning Board , the Planning Board has it and the Town Board can't review it . You either delegate it or you keep it , but you can't have both bodies reviewing the same process. The Boards then started reviewing the Site Plan Review from the beginning. To make section 310.2 more clear, we renumbered 3, 4 and 5. Number 3 becomes #5; Number 4 becomes #3; and Number 5 becomes #4. Number 5 should now read: Exterior alterations or additions to existing structures not otherwise excepted above under this paragraph which would: a, b & c. The Board discussed having a separate section in the back Just for definitions, i .e. land use activity, structure, etc. , however, it was decided that these are already defined in the Town Zoning Ordinance. After discussion it was decided that the statement on Occupancy classification changes in #2 should be moved to the beginning of 310.2. Change the first sentence of 310.2 - P9 a Applicability to read: "All land use activities as defined in the Town Zoning Ordinance within the town requiring a permit of any kind including occupancy classification changes as per New York State Building Code, 701 .1 shall require site plan review and approval before being undertaken, except the following." John Czamanski had sent a letter to Bill Hogan suggesting a few changes. One of the changes would be in #4 regarding agricultural produce. Change placement to place. There was discussion regarding making the Sketch Plan Conference optional . It was decided that the Planning Board really needs a sketch plan to familiarize the Board with what they plan to do. It may save the applicant time if they just submit a sketch to .the Zoning Officer at the time they apply for a permit . Change first sentence to read: A sketch plan conference shall be held between the Zoning Officer • and applicant • In the last paragraph of section 311 , change sentence to read: On the basis of the results of the sketch plan conference. . . Also, move the last two paragraphs of section 311 to Section 312 after #21 . Alex Rachun and Carolyn Ouddleston commented that Section 310.6 has scared a lot of people off already. It was decided to delete this section completely. Tom Reitz commented that 312.a was another one that has raised a few questions from residents to him regarding the Town Schedule of Fees. It is the responsibility of the Town Board to set those fees. Bill Hogan stated that the Town Board would have to review all of the fees. Bill Hogan asked Alex Rachun to give a quick run threw of the 21 items on the check list. He suggested that maybe a little note in back of some of these would make it a little clearer for people. Alex stated that the assumption here is that a project coming in is going to be a commercial venture and something other than a residential venture and that more than likely is going to require a plan, or some minimal form of engineering to get the project off anyway. It was agreed to add after #3, (survey may be required) . Add after #4 and #5, (topography map may be required via SEQR) . Bruce Wilson suggested that we change the sentence in Section 312.b to read: Information drawn from the following Preliminary Site Plan Proposal checklist to the extent that it is "needed" (instead of available) and applicable. Bill Hogan - A lot of people were concerned that we have a lot of things in here that were not necessary. As I see it, if you were a small businessman going to a bank for a construction loan, you would need most of the items on this list anyway. I don't see where this is a real hardship for anyone, nor do I see it as a costly venture. Tom Reitz - Is it reasonable or possible that we would have available in the Town some of these documents as necessary? Re: Town of Ulysses Topo Map? Yes. • Alex Rachun - I looked through all of these on this checklist , and I saw nothing in there that would cost you more money than what already would be required by other agencies or the state, ie, building codes, SEQR, etc . ! ✓ 3 • • Section 313 - Tom Reitz questioned the word adequacy in h . He felt it was a judgment call both by the applicant and the Planning Board . It was agreed to change adequacy to consideration. It also was agreed to drop the word adequacy in g. On page 5, Section 314, it was felt that the second paragraph regarding private consultants, raised' a lot of fear in people. Because there are so many agencies to call on for assistance, le, DEC, Tompkins County Planning Consultants, Association of Towns can call a lawyer for an 800 number, Army Corps, all available experts for no fee, it was decided to delete this paragraph completely. Discussion took place regarding the 45 day time period that a public hearing can be conducted. David Tyler explained that if it was a large project , you might actually need that 'length of time. The Planning Board's intent is not to take the 45 days, but to get it done as soon as possible. It was decided to change this to read "no later than 45 days" . Also change Section 315 to read no later than 45 days. David Tyler suggested that we change Section 317.1 to read: Prior to taking action on the final site development plan, the Planning Board must, if applicable, (add) or unless previously referred, refer the plan to the county planning agency for advisory review. . . Also change Section 317.2 to read no later than 45 days. . . Catherine Stover asked exactly what we were looking for in section 316.b regarding detailed sizing. David Tyler explained that we were looking for the final sizing • and materials, as this could be different than what was shown in the preliminary material . It was agreed to change b to read: Any changes or additions in sizing and final material specification of all required improvements. Budd Stover asked , required by who? Alex explained it could be required by your engineer, the building code, SEAR, Health Department - not arbitrary changes, but any required changes. Alex Fachun felt that Section 317.2 regarding disapproval of a final proposal needed more clarification by stating the reasons that a proposal may be disapproved. It was agreed by the Boards to change 317.2 b to read: "Upon disapproval of a final proposal , the Planning Board shall so inform the Zoning Officer and the Zoning Officer shall not issue a Building Permit to the applicant . The Planning Board must make specific written findings as to the criteria set forth in Section 313 above before it can disapprove a final proposal . The Planning Board shall also notify the applicant in writing of its decision and its reasons for disapproval . A copy of the resolution of disapproval shall be immediately filed with the Town Clerk ." Section 318 - David Tyler suggested adding "and" to a and b of 318. There was discussion regarding the word noncontroversial in the first paragraph of Section 318. It was decided to change this word to "low-impact" . • The Boards decided to add a Severability statement. This statement will be numbered 323.2. The statement shall read: "Severability. The provisions of this local law are severable. If any article, section, paragraph or provision of this local law shall be invalid, such invalidity shall apply only to the article, section, paragraph or provision(s) adjudged invalid and the rest of this local law shall remain valid and effective." It also was decided to include an Enforcement section to protect the Town against someone not complying with what they have agreed to do. It was agreed to state Section 323.2 as Enforcement. To read : Enforcement of violations of this local law shall be pursuant to Article II , Section 1 and Article X , Section 1 of the Zoning Ordinance. P.5 • • Sr* •David Tyler asked Bruce Wilson if another public hearing would be necessary since we have made these changes. It was agreed that we would hold another public hearing since we made substantial changes. The meeting was adjourned at 10:32 p.m. • • P..5. 6 • • " V TOWN OF ULYSSES PUBLIC HEARING September 3, 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Catherine Stover, Councilpoople; Alex Rachun, Building/Zoning; Bruce • Wilson, Town Attorney; Paula Mount , Deputy Clerk/Recording Secretary . ,. Others Present : See sign-up sheet attached. PURPOSE: to hear public comments on the application for Rezoning of tax parcel U 11-2-7 . 1 (part of) , from residential to a Business District , owned by William Auble. Proof of Notice having been furnished, the Public Hearing on the • Rezoning request by William Auble was called to order at 7 :00 P.M. by William Hogan, Supervisor. Mr. David Auble, on behalf of the developer, commented as follows: September 13 , 1990 Auble filed request for annexation into the Village of Trumansburg of his 38 acres . October 29, 1990 Public Hearing on his annexation request . . December 10 , 1990 Village of Trumansburg rejected annexation of the Auble land. January 8, 1991 Town of Ulysses endorsed the project by approving annexation. February 12 , 1991 Town of Ulysses filed Article 78 to encourage the Village to review Auble's project plans . March 23, 1991 Village agreed to meetings with the Town and with the Auble development team. These meetings proved to be unproductive. April 15, 1991 Town of. Ulysses, in interest of harmony with the Village, dropped the Article 78 suit . May 20 , 1991 Auble filed with the Town of Ulysses application to rezone the 38 acres to "Business District" . August 6, 1991 Town of Ulysses Planning board and Town Board reviewed • - Part I of State Environmental Quality Review Environmental Assessment Form (SEQR-EAF) . Andy Scott , Village Planning Board, endorsed the project . September 3, 1991 Public Hearing on rezoning by the Town. Mr. D. Auble continued. During the past 12 months the following has occurred: The Auble Group representatives have had over 30 meetings with , the Village and the Town officials to review project material . I have met, at their request , with a group called "Greenwatch" to review project plans . The Chairman of the Village Planning Board has stated that the Village needs a new commercial area and that the Auble land is where new commercial development should take place. I.; r:' i1 01 r r 1. ' I 4•; ..• Town of Ulysses 2 Public Hearing . 9/3/91 The Town Zoning Officer has stated that the Auble land should be zoned for business because: 1. The buildings in the Village can' t economically be brought up to State Code. 2 . New commercial development should take place adjacent to the Village rather than scattered throughout the Town. Mr. Hogan opened the floor for public comments. The following persons spoke in favor of the rezoning action: John Baisley Stan Koskinen Rosalie Mayo Martin Weeks John O'Leary Jerry Perkins Rex Lovejoy Bill Sterling Dan Smith The following persons spoke against the rezoning action: Ben Curtis Elizabeth Raymond Hop Raymond The following persons made public statements : - Paula Horrigan Charles Lounsberry Jackie Merwin Larry Reverby Dick Garner Barbara Page Ozzie Heila Geraldine Keil All persons desiring to be heard, having been heard, the Hearing was terminated at 8 : 45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount Deputy Clerk pm AINIMIIIIMI TOWN OF ULYSSES r PUBLIC HEARING September 10 , 1991 • Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Carolyn , Duddleston, Catherine Stover , Robert Weatherby, • Councilpeople; Alex Rachun, Building/Zoning; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present : Linda Manheim Perry, Carla Pelkie, Seville Reulein, Ben Curtis . Purpose: to hear public comments on the amendment to Planned Unit Development #16 (prior use John Deere Dealership) to change the use to Sleeping Bear Futon. Located at 1608 Trumansburg Road Tax Parcel #33-5-3 . 2 . • Mr. Hogan opened the public hearing at 7 :05 and read the legal ad as published. He also read the Request for Amendment to Development District #16 (see folder) . Mr. Hogan asked for public comment . No public comments were heard. Mrs . Stover asked if the 3 . 31 acres should be added to the legal description. Mr. Reitz said that could be put in the area of the district . Mr. Reitz asked if this area was being purchased or leased/rented from the original owner? Ms . Perry said it is a • . lease purchase. . .have a purchase contract which is contingent upon the decision tonight. Ms . Pelkie stated that her reason for leaving Ulysses Square is to have own building, build equity, and • to build exposure, get closer to Ithaca. Mr. Hogan asked if the facility is larger than what they are • using now and Ms . Pelkie said actually it is slightly smaller; but do have the other building that they would like to convert to storage. • Hearing no further comments, Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to close the public hearing, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Unanimously approved, the public hearing was closed. Mr. Hogan said that this issue will be acted upon at the Regular Town Board Meeting which follows . Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk . pm . . t . • : • •.. „ . • .,• . t . . . , . . TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING September 10 , 1991 Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Alex Rachun, Building/Zoning; James Meeker , Highway Superintendent ; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present : Carl Mann, William Auble, Emery Guest . Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8 :00 P.M. and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes of Public Hearing/Taughannock Log 8/6/91; Special Board/Taughannock Log/Auble SEQR 8/6/91 ; Regular Town Board 8/13/91; Budget Meeting 8/19/91; Special Board 7/30/91, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr . Reitz said there is concern about the attendance at the September 3rd meeting. Some people that spoke at that meeting are not listed. . .Geri Keil is one. Only suggestion is to approve all the other meetings and hold the minutes on the September 3rd. Mrs . Duddleston stated that the July 30th meeting, she was - present and her name is not listed. Mrs . Georgia will correct . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr . Hogan said that the minutes of the September 3rd Public Hearing will be held for further discussion. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department Absent/no report . Report : Representative James Mason Absent/no report; • Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #294-298; 300- 324 in the amount of $9,204. 75 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan Aye • Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye • Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Supervisor 's Financial Report Mr. Hogan reported (s,Oched) . Hearing of Delegations and Individuals • N� fi o-lS i ,. 4 tf � .. (.'},' ,�. 17 ,Y�'�-. .�.�•K��ai"lt,,b'i .}..� ate.gat�;::2. A ..i.�.3:i.fL' 'i�. { n �; r. ;;';T „;ty »`I9 � Y ..f. I. ,,f :t Town of Ulysses trn 2 • ;: Regular Town Board Meeting September 10 , 1991 Mr . Hogan stated that sometime ago the Village Police Dept . approached the Town with a proposal to expand coverage to certain • areas outside the Village. The Town stated that we aro paying County taxes for coverage from the Sheriff ' s Dept . Felt that • coverage was a little thin at times , so invited Sheriff Guest to join us tonight and discuss the situation. Mr . Hogan introduced Sheriff Emery Guest . Sheriff Guest said • there are 23 road men split between three shifts . In the course of a weeks time probably don' t have more than five patrols at any one time on shift . Budgets are thin now; have requested additional manpower for road patrols , don' t know what to expect from the County Board. Have a large County and many days don' t have anyone for road patrol because they are busy with court coverage. . . transporting prisoners , etc. Over the course of a night , depending upon how busy they get , they are in the Town of Ulysses for a period of time. Mr . Hogan asked if the Sheriff 's Dept . gets a call with an emergency in the Town. . . Sheriff Guest said they would dispatch it _' and if we can' t then will refer to the State Police . Can dispatch within fifteen minutes . . .but depends upon where the car is located. . . could take 45 minutes . Mr. Hogan said some of the Village Police are deputized as Sheriff 's Deputies? Sheriff Guest indicated they are deputies . Would like to tell you that there would be someone out in the • Township all the time, but have to live within the constraints of the budget . Mr. Reitz asked what can be done about special events; Fair, Woodcutter 's Show, Festival , etc . . . .Sheriff Guest said that anytime there is a special activity. . . took the stand for the Aids fundraiser and Fair, that is private property and until such a time as the Fair Board or whoever is operating that particular situation invites me on the Fairgrounds , I don' t have any business there. Did maintain extra patrols for the Aids concert . Mr . Reitz said isn' t it a fact that the Fair Assoc . has no authority to go onto the highway and direct traffic, etc.? Sheriff Guest said that is correct; it is our responsibility. Mr. Reitz said then we just call you when we hear there is going to be an event; make you aware of it? Sheriff Guest said if he has notice will make sure to have people detailed. . .plan for it . Mr . Reitz asked about Village Police covering Town. . . Sheriff Guest said they can go out 500 ft. . . .what the Village has to be very careful about is if they have an accident that they have a request from the Sheriff 's Dept . to cover themselves in case of liability. Sheriff Guest said they would be willing to speak to groups of people who may be interested in neighborhood watch types of programs , etc. , a number of things individuals can do that can be helpful in terms of knowing their neighbor, etc . He will send a list of things people can do, perhaps the FreePress could do an • article. SPCA President of SPCA spoke regarding dog control and animal shelter responsibilities in the Town of Ulysses for 1992 . Services are mandated by the State of New York. Explained what services are available and what has been provided to Town of Ulysses this current year. Potential for rabies outbreak in Tompkins County is of major importance to us . The SPCA is not asking for an increase for 1992 . Services have decreased significantly in the past six months in the Town; no .Y r' . J1a'}.•: ..� I 4. *:.H`'. . . % ',N'< ., .""i1. "f .i i.1 ,. ;��•.. .y t if "If ' Town of Ulysses y 3 Regular Town Board Meeting • September 10 , 1991 • routine patrols . We are thus proposing the contract amount for 1992 of $6 , 369. 96 . OLD BUSINESS �. Cayga Nature Center • Tim Wachs of Houghton Road read and presented a petition to the • Board voicing concerns and objections of neighbors of the Cayuga • Nature Center (attached) . The petition was signed by more than 50 people. Mr. Hogan asked if a representative from the Cayuga Nature Center was present . Dick Taylor, Co-Director introduced himself . Indicated that he wished he had heard these complaints before the meeting; could have responded to them and saved time. Spoke to the issues raised by the petition. Want to keep avenues of • communications open and work on a friendly basis with the • neighbors and Town. • Mr. Hogan asked how large this parcel of land is and was told 40 acres . Do you plan to develop this land? Mr. Taylor said they are working on that . . .have a committee to make recommendations to the Cayuga Nature Center's Board. When drafted will be circulated to all members of the committee and the neighbors. No • definite plans for the White property at this point . • Mr. Hogan suggested that when plans are formulated that the Town • -• be made aware of them. Mr. Wachs stated that the neighbors are not opposed to the Nature Center or their goals; don' t want to see a gravel parking lot and • this is the sort of thing that prompted the petition. • I Site Plan Review Mr . Hogan said that the Board needs to set a date for a public hearing. Spoke with attorney today regarding legal ad and found that we have to publish the entire document . Mrs . Georgia questioned having to publish the document prior to public • hearing. Usually publish a Notice of Public Hearing and the Purpose of said hearing and then after action is taken, publish the document . Mr . Hogan will check this out . Set Tuesday, October 1, 1991 at 7 :00P.M. in the Town Hall for the hearing of Site Plan Review. Auble Rezoning Mr . Hogan said we have to declare a negative declaration on 23 acres and then set a date for the vote. David Auble said in a letter from the County they indicated they would like to see more project information; also made positive recommendations . Mr . Hogan said he gave a copy of this letter to our attorney. • • Our attorney spoke to Jim Hansen and asked if this was a positive declaration and was told Yes . Mr. Auble said this wasn' t stated in the letter. Mr . Reitz said they are talking about the 239LM, not SEQR. Mr. Auble said they have addressed all these issues . Mr. Reitz said we can overrule 239LM with a majority of the Board. Mr. Auble stated this is a little contradictory in the fact that the County asked us to work on a Park and Ride facility in conjunction with our project. . .don' t see how they can see this as a positive impact and at the same time ask us to work with them on providing a public facility. + 1:• Town of Ulysses • 4 . Regular Town Board Meeting September 10 , 1991 • Mr . Hogan said that he would like to vote on this issue the same • night as Site Plan Review, October 1, 1991 . Hold the public hearing for Site Plan Review, vote on Site Plan Review and then vote on the Auble Request for Rezoning. Mr . Reitz asked if this is being done for expediency of time? Mr . Hogan said correct . . .what I am seeing is that we are going on and on and not resolving anything. . . tired of going no place. Want to get them both resolved. Mr . Reitz said then you are ready to vote on this tonight? Mr. • Hogan said there are a couple of things to clarify with County Planning , cover with our attorney what we need to do. Indicated that we need to specify what 23 acres in that parcel are ;; involved. Mr. Auble said he has a map. Mr. Hogan said we will need a legal description. Mr . Rachun said the negative declaration has to be filed with the State. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston as follows : Under the State Environmental Quality Review Act we declare a negative declaration based on a judgement of the Town Board that a 38 acre zoning change could potentially have a large impact on the community, based on our current zoning and typical commercial build-out; a reduced • commercial zone changed to 23 acres , however, should mitigate the large impact as demonstrated by the concept plan presented by the developer and relaying that concept plan to the requirements of • our zoning. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Was decided that this issue will be voted upon on October 1 , 1991 . Mr. Reitz said that Mr. Auble will get us a copy of the legal description. PUD #16 Mr. Hogan said we had a public hearing prior to this meeting to hear comment on Sleeping Bear Futons requested amendment to PUD #16 . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mrs . Stover as follows : NOTICE: is hereby given that the following amendment to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses was duly enacted at a Regular Town Board Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses held on the 10th day of September 1991 . WHEREAS: an application for the amendment of a Development District, pursuant to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses has been received from Carla Pelkie of Sleeping Bear Futons relative to the area designated as Ulysses Tax Parcel #33-5-3 . 2 . WHEREAS: said application has been referred to the Town of Ulysses Planning Board which approved said application and to the Tompkins County Planning and Health Departments which found no objection to the application. WHEREAS: a public hearing on the amendment to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses requested by such application was held, upon more than 15 days published notice, on the 10th day of September, 1991 . NOW THEREFORE, BE IT ENACTED: by the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses , the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses , adopted April 8 , 1978 , is hereby amended to amend Development District #16 as follows : v.: ,, .:(:...k.4 �•..R.....t f,.. �A,.Yi. .Iv �v'• °F•.♦ I v. .. 4., i . . .. < •r I4:J.v l '1i.:'^� .. ** It • Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting September 10 , 1991 1 . This district shall be known as Development District #16 . 2 . The proposed use for said district is : Retail store for assorted specialty items and related light manufacturing. 3 . Area of the district : 3 . 13 acres beginning at the point in the centerline of NYS RT 96 (Trumansburg Road) a distance of 670 feet north-westerly from the intersection of centerline with the centerline of Krums Corners Road; thence South 28 22 ' West , passing through an iron pipe set at 33 feet, a total distance of 231 . 2 feet to an iron pipe; thence North 77 52 ' West a distance of 99.0 feet to an iron pipe; thence South 06 39' West a distance - of 137 . 0 feet to an iron pipe; thence North 44 42 ' West a distance of 460 . 0 feet to an iron pipe set in the centerline of a ditch; thence northerly along the centerline of said ditch, passing through an iron pipe set at the intersection of the centerline of said ditch and the Southerly right-of-way of NYS RT 96 (Trumansburg Road) , a distance of 265 feet , more or less , to a 'I point over a concrete box culvert in the centerline of NYS RT 96 (Trumansburg Road) , said point being a chord bearing North 22 21 ' East a chord distance of 263. 2 feet from the first mentioned pipe ' set in the centerline of the aforesaid ditch; thence South 60 34 ' East along the centerline of said NYS 96 a distance of 512 . 0 feet to the point or place of beginning. • 4 . Specification of proposed amendment : a) The inventory of retail items shall be consistent with retail home decorating shop. •' b) All items will be stored in a manner not visible from RT 96, in a building. c) Products shall be consumer items: futons , pillows , curtains , articles of bedding, wooden frames , etc. d) Items for sale may be manufactured on the premises and shall consist of cutting, sewing and assembling of futons, frames , and related items. • " e) No structures, signs or other materials to be kept within State right-of-way. f) Signs shall conform to ART. VIII , Sec . 3 , para. 1 of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance. g) Lighted sign and security lights are permitted. h) Entrances and exits to the property shall remain as existing. i) The Silo will be painted within three months and other buildings as needed. j) Property shall be maintained in a well groomed and mowed condition and conform to ART. VI , Sec. 10 of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance. 5 . THIS AMENDMENT SHALL BE IN EFFECT UPON ADOPTION AND PUBLICATION AS PROVIDED BY LAW. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Planning Board Vacancy Mr. Hogan stated that one letter of interest has been received, that from Lou Foley. He has contacted the other three interested parties who applied for the last vacancy. Interviews will be on Saturday . Budget Sheets Mr . Reitz requested statistics on Youth. Mr. Hogan will ask Mrs . Vanderbilt . Public Hearing/Auble 1 .i . .s '.1'J: '1 ! . .. .. .. s t . �'�:s"S,• .:i. 'r• . (•. .s. S Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting • • September 10 , 1991 Mr . Reitz felt there were more positive statements for the rezoning than negative . Concerns raised by some individuals for a PUD. Did notice in the minutes that Geri Keil ' s name was left off as far as making a statement . The minutes also reflect that more people spoke in favor . The format of the minutes was discussed. Mr . Auble asked that his opening statement be included. Mr . Hogan felt that it was a good public hearing, heard strong comments . Mrs . Georgia said that these minutes have not been accepted, so if revisions are requested, or more information wanted, it is the pleasure of the Board. Mr. Hogan said most of • the Board has their own notes they can refer to. Mrs . Georgia said the tapes can be reviewed, also. Mr. Hogan asked the Board members to bring their notes on Saturday and they will go over •• them. Spruce Row Camgpite Mr . Reitz said we have a public hearing next week on Spruce Row Campsite. The amendment given to us does not have the legal description. When will this be done? Mr. Hogan said can do it • Saturday morning. Mr . Rachun asked if O'Cello could write this quickly . Mr . Reitz said we have all that up to where the house • would be added in. Mr. Hogan said if all we are having is just a public hearing will have time to get the legal description before we vote. Mr. Rachun said this is pretty difficult . . .would hesitate for us to write the description. If you decide to vote and get this thing wrapped up would be nice to get the legal description now so that all is in place. Have an Adjourned Meeting after the public hearing so that if you want to vote you can . Mr. Reitz will call Mr. O'Cello and see if the job can be done for under $100 .00 . • NEW BUSINESS None REPORTS Town Clerk - Mrs. Georgia reported that for the month of August $5 , 306 . 62 was collected in fees , of which $1 ,085 . 38 was turned over to the Supervisor. Swamped with conservation licenses . . . ran out of supplies for Sportsmen licenses . Caught up on minutes . Working on house numbering. Highway Superintendent - Mr . Meeker reported work on the recycling center; oiling and cutting along roads . Commented that with tight budgets , why are we duplicating services regarding recycling? Think need to look at that . Mr. Hogan will talk to Mr . Mason about this . Mr . Meeker continued - plan to bill the • County for materials used in fixing up recycling center. Cleaned ditch on Curry Road. Have resumed mowing roadsides for the County. . . they came up with money. Chips update. . .heard what we actually will get, $12 , 989. in quarterly payments . . . can be only used for highway purpose, except for debt service. $23 ,333 . • under this new program must be capital related activity with a life expectancy of at least 10 years (ie: bridge) . Don' t get the money until it is spent by us . Will not go along with a Spring Clean-Up. . .price too high. Zoning/Building Inspector - Mr . Rachun reported one start in August ; five permits . Many calls . . . some concerning the County Farm, people are upset about the condition of the property. Citizens Savings is in the process of reclaiming the property. The other is the Cayuga Inn. . . been lax enforcing zoning on the To of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board Meeting • September 10 , 1991 Inn , Have received complaints and don' t know what the Board would like to do about it . Will talk with Bill about this . We had two ZBA's last month and one coming up. Would like to ask the Board to consider lake properties in the next year. . .did put some considerations into the revised Zoning Ordinance; would certainly help with the number of ZBA hearings . Give the Zoning Officer a little more discretion. Board Members - Mr . Reitz announced that Mobil Oil has hired a company in to build a new recovery system in Jacksonville and securing the properties . Would ask that the Town Board take the • position on the RT96 detour. Limit truck traffic over ten tons. • Mr . Hogan asked Mr. Reitz to put together an alternate plan. Mr. Reitz also spoke to Mr. Luster regarding our budget and revenue sharing . Mr. Luster indicated that revenue sharing will be phased out over the next three years. Will get 50% this year, 50% less the next year and nothing the last year. In our budget • process, will need to consider this. Correspondence Mr . Hogan received correspondence as follows: CAC; Mobil Oil ; County Planning; DEC re Jacksonville; NYS Office of the Aging; Assoc. of Towns concerning formation of insurance company; TCAD; NYS Dept . of State; Solid Waste; Lou Poley; Town of Washington; School Board Assoc . ; Farmers Home Administration/funding for „' water. Mr. Reitz stated that he had a call from ISA Babcock. . if routed • from Ithaca, would be interested in water. . .having a serious problem. Mr. Hogan said it would be good to have a letter on file from them. Hearing no further business , Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn to September 17 , 1991 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs. Stover. Unanimously approved. Respectfully Submitted, Marsha L . Georgia Town Clerk pm • i .. ( �. .\ . L. A.f..r$ •. 1.. fF• tu. ur ^r .e ^rw ..t � .Y'rL .In . . '. . . .. FI .T, .y T1 A fry, r 5 :7 TOWN OF ULYSSES PUBLIC HEARING September 17 , 1991 Present : Carolyn Duddleston, Deputy Supervisor; Catherine Stover, Thomas Reitz, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Alex Rachun, Zoning/Building; Paula Mount , Deputy Clerk . Others Present : See attached sign-in sheet . PURPOSE: To hear public comment on the proposed revised Planned Unit Development #1 Spruce Row, located at 2235 Kraft Road. Mrs . Duddleston, Deputy Supervisor, Town of Ulysses opened the public hearing at 7 : 10PM. Mrs. Mount read the legal ad as published in the Ithaca Journal on August 23 , 1991. Mrs . Duddleston stated that there is a new map and gave the • audience time to look at it . Mrs . Duddleston read the proposed, revised PUD #1 [see copy attached] . Several people asked questions regarding development district designation, potential growth and if this PUD hadn' t already • grown beyond its original guidelines. Mr. Rachun explained development district and answer general questions regarding same . Clayton Smith - Not against the business, but against further • growth. Also questioned water situation. Marian Boratynski asked about potential growth. Mr. Reitz answered that the proposed number of sites are not to exceed 425. . . .if more are requested, would have to come back and request an amendment to the PUD. If Mr. Weber followed State guidelines of 2500 sq. ft . per campsite he could put in almost 2000 • campsites ; so it's actually a restriction from 2000 to the 425 . Hayden Pelliccia - Are you updating something to cover development that has taken place after the original specifications of the area? Mr. Rachun said yes, and explained what the process has been. Rosalind Crass - Asked about number of campsites being proposed. . . the Planning Board did not recommend that many, they didn' t feel the community could support larger. . .where did 425 • come from? Mr. Reitz commented that the Planning Board did not have a good map to work with. . . 425 is a compromise from 2000 , the • Town Board came up with that number. Mrs . Crass said the • Planning Board recommended far fewer, and Mr. Hogan said at an earlier meeting that 425 was a figure to fill the blank in • with. . .not cast in stone. Mr. Reitz said this is a compromise. . . from what the State says can be there, what the Planning Board recommended and the number that is being proposed. . . compromise on all points . You are correct . . .some of this will be regulated in the future by the County Health Dept . regarding availability of sewer and water. Health Department criteria was discussed by -Mr. Weber. Mrs . Crass - The Planning Board suggested a number, why is that being ignored? Mrs. Duddleston commented that it isn' t being ignored, but are looking into the future. This isn' t saying that • Mr. Weber is going to have 425 sites built within the next year. He may never do it . Mrs . Crass - Mr. Weber may sell and the next owner will come in ".V' t 1: 4.0 .t 8 —1- 1 r - M— t' ��aye . t iJ a.\ 1;:.t.1 . t .. 4. .u111'y '.1m:�.. .i `l.\r 1 . . . .(. ..L+. ♦. � t4 •{ .M.. �L�.. - . . . .'(• ... Town of -Ulysses 111/ 2 Public Hearing/Spruce Row Campsite September 17 , 1991 and have 425 sites . Mrs . Duddleston said Yes . ^ _ Keith Vanderzee - Spoke in favor of campgrounds and expansion. Mrs . Baker - Spoke against further expansion. Mrs . Duddleston read letter from Tompkins County Planning Department [see attached] . Have indicated that the proposal submitted would have no significant impact . Mr. Rachun stated that the one overriding thing you have to II remember is the fact that what is allowable there now is far greater than what is being proposed. This is the understanding that the Board and County Planning looked at , that the larger impact would be mitigated by a smaller impact. George Patte - Just this week spoke to County Planning about this memo they wrote. Person I spoke to indicated that they had simply received the proposal from this Planning Board which you reviewed tonight and did not have any material from the Planning Board. The person I spoke to, indicated it was her belief , that they did not know what the Planning Board recommendation was . They had never heard the figure of 90 , were not aware of any of the input the Town Planning Board made, which of course was considerable. Don' t think it was their fault , they simply reviewed what was sent to them. Think it only consisted of the final product here, and weren't even made aware of the work the Town Planning Board had done and I question whether that is appropriate. With respect to the memo here, what this says , looking at it now, 'the proposal as submitted will have no significant deleterious impact on intercommunity, County, or State interests. ' Frankly, not sure what that means . . .doesn' t address , to me, traffic concerns , water concern, environmental concern of a local nature how about people just in Willow Creek, or the Town of Ulysses . Don' t think they are addressing anything except does this effect people O in the next Town or across the County . They are leaving it up to you to address local issues . With respect to this map, and I did request that a map be made, but my actual request , if you are going to go to any number, you picked the number 425 and of course there is serious opposition to that , but if you are going to go to any number you are giving the developer carte blanche to do anything he wants in respect to placement of those future sites , in respect to roads, in respect to placement of anything and everything that may occur there, you don' t know what will occur . You have 181 now, you have an additinnal 200+ allowed, but where, under what circumstances, except under a very broad guideline you put in there about 2 , 500 sq. ft . per campsite. You are not retaining much if any control and that may come back to haunt you. The neighbors don' t agree with this and would submit tonight a new petition that speaks to some of the same issues . [See petition on file] . Don' t think that in the EAF that Mr. Rachun filed, in all due respect , even attempted to address the concern of the neighbors . This petition asserts that the people who signed this constitutes neighbors within 100' of the property and requests in light of the Town Law under section 265, that if you are going to vote on a proposal , that they being the neighbors within 100 ' of the boundary want to assert their right to call for a super majority. Mr. Rachun - County Planning has been advised since the beginning of this project; were notified back in 1989. County Planning has had a change in staff since this project started. I , too, have been involved and they have received every document we have printed from here. Regarding EAF under SEQR, one thing we have to look at is it is an amendment to a development district . The question has to be asked if there is going to be greater impact ;1': . 1. .fl. .; -11..,1- P,' :e •.f .. .i .J ,r•( L',-,t 'f:. ..— n f• ' . r ( Town of Ulysses 3 Public Hearing/Spruce Row Campsite September 17 , 1991 through this amendment than would be if it was left alone. In r all cases that I had to review on this , I had to make a statement that it would not have the impact that it has today under the due process of a development district that we allow today . Talk about water, traffic, other factors , what exists today, which would give far greater latitude for impact than what is being proposed. This may not be in the eyes of the neighbors and they k', may not be 100% satisfied, and Mr . Weber isn' t 100% satisfied, but the Board has to work and use what they have. . . this is a compromise. Mrs . Baker - If you have already decided on the 425 feet then why have a hearing? Mrs . Duddleston said this number is . proposed. . .want to hear comments from the public. Mr . Beach Stover - Spoke in favor of campsite, asset to community, economics demands expansion. Would pass this amended PUD passed in total as presented tonight . Mr. Weber - Think the Board should challenge Mr. Patte's petition, or have legal council check it . . . it will not meet the requirements of a super majority. Mr . Patte - The standard used in preparation of this EAF continues to bother me. Alex is saying he took it from the point of view that since there are no limits on the number that can go in there [no Town imposed limits. . .there are State imposed limits] , if that 's the case then yes , you could go through this and answer No to all those questions. . .not sure that is the right standard to use. Would like Mr. Rachun to tell me why he used the standard he did. Mr . Rachun - Only standard I could use is what we have in our Town Law. (Mr. Rachun read from Town Law. . .copy on file in Town Hall ) . There is nothing that limits the number of campsites in our Zoning Ordinance. This is part of our land use. . .Development District #1, and as such we have to honor that when we review it for SEQR, can' t pretend it doesn't exist . Not creating a new development district . . .we are amending a development district . Not looking at enlarging the allowable use of the campsite as it stands today; we are looking at restricting the allowable use of the campsite as it is today. That is the way it has to be looked • at for SEQR. . . in my judgment . Mrs . Duddleston - Can' t we clarify it by saying now we have 181 sites , but there could be 2000 . . . .we are trying to say now there are 181 but there can be 425 . . .not that there are actually 425 sites there. Mr. Patte - You are also saying that I didn't measure what changes in environmental impact is going to be if I go from 181 to 425 , because I don' t have to. . . . I think that is dead wrong. Mr . Rachun - Would you suggest we wait until we get to 2000 sites and then set those standards . Mr. Patte - No, I 'm saying you should have measured it right now in terms of environmental impact and you didn' t do so and that is clearly a legal error. Mr. Rachun stated that was Mr. Patte's opinion. Ron McLean - Spoke in favor of Spruce Row amendment . Jan Austic - Doesn' t oppose what is presently there, but is against increasing the number of campsites . Town of Ulysses 4 Public Hearing/Spruce Row Campsite September 17 , 1991 Dave Johnson - Feels the same way. . . 425 are too many. .' Mrs . Duddleston read the petition presented by Mr . Patte and a • letter written by Mrs . Baker. Mrs. Mount read a letter from Johnson/Landis . Both letters expressed concern about expansion of the campgrounds . Mrs . Crass - Voiced concern with Item 12 (mobile home) . Shouldn' t be in the PUD. Seems to me that it would be more appropriate for Mr. Weber to approach the Board and ask for a variance for this trailer. Mr . Rachun - Want to make something very clear to the Board and that is that I processed SEQR with the full understanding that Harry Weber has made no requests . This is strictly the Board's undertaking, revising Development District #1 . If Mr. Weber had made a request , our SEQR is in violation because we filled out both Part I and II . . .and would also question the Board's expenditure of money for the map if Mr. Weber has made a request. I am under the impression that Mr. Weber has made no request when I processed this . You have two votes tonight . . .you have to vote on SEQR and the Development District . Hearing no further comments, Mrs. Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz to close the public hearing. Unanimously approved, the public hearing closed at 8: 30PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula Mount Deputy Clerk • y r • TOWN OF ULYSSES St•$10 A • DJOURNED REGULAR BOARD MEETING OF 9/10/91 1 September 17 , 1991 Present : Carolyn Duddleston, Deputy Supervisor; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby, Councilpeople; Paula Mount, Deputy Clerk; Alex Raohun, Bldg/Zoning. Purpose: Board action on Spruce Row Public Hearing Carolyn Duddleston opened the Adjourned Regular Board Meeting at 8: 45PM. • After discussion, Mrs. Duddleston entertained a motion to accept a few minor revisions as follows : Concerning hedgerows : indicate hedgerow #1 and #2. Under Item lla (hedgerow #2) . Concerning density, last paragraph on page 3 add. . . 'not more than' . . .and a • few spelling corrections. Moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved. Mr . Weatherby moved to table making any decision on Spruce Row Campgrounds pending review of SEQR by the Town Attorney until the next Regular Town Board Meeting of October 8 , 1991, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Will not have another public hearing. Will get some questions • answered and vote on this matter on October 8th. Mrs . Duddleston entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz that the Receiver of Taxes open up a Super Seven account , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Mrs . Duddleston Aye ® Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Hearing no further business , Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 9: 30PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount, Deputy Clerk ': • . ® of 11' ;, U TOWN OF ULYSSES/VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG " JOINT MEETING September 18 , 1991 Present : Tom Bennett ,Village Mayor; Carl Zylich, Peter Meskill , John Rogers , Bill Griswold, Village Trustees; Catherine Stover , Carolyn Duddleston, Thomas Reitz , Town ,.:; Councilpeople; Paula Mount , Deputy Town Clerk. Others Present : John Furey, Beth Jenkins , Amy Smith, Martha • Kotun, Kathy Gee, Kevin Shreve, Marion Boratynski , ' Barbara McKeith, Dan Watson, Ben Curtis , Ken Lansing , Janice Johnson, Jim Johnson, and others . Mayor Bennett called the meeting to order at 7 : 30PM, and turned the meeting over to Kevin Shreve. Kevin distributed several handouts (see attached) , and gave a brief history of the Joint '0' 2 Youth Commission. The area of concern for the Joint Youth Commission is the Village and Town taxes and State and County funds that are coming through the municipalities for youth programming. - Reiterated the Operating Guidelines and indicated frustration with Item 8 . . .maintain a direct line of communication between the Joint Commission and the municipal boards. Mr. Meskill asked who should be maintaining this communication and Mr. Shreve said the liaison for the Town, Tom Reitz and the Village, John Rogers . Have a good group of volunteers on the Joint Commission, however ran out of steam during the summer months . Need to keep lines of communication open. If an agency wants funds for the year they should be directed to the Commission, have the Commission review the request and then come back to the Town/Village. The fiscal years of the Town and Village were discussed. They are different and sometimes this causes confusion. Mr . Furey indicated that the Commission is dealing with five different entities and they all have their own budget deadlines . Mr. Furey presented an overhead show and reviewed programs and services . Agency requests are as follows : DARE $2 , 500 . ; Summer Rec Program $14, 600. ; Ulysses Library • ... $3 ,000 . - $3 ,800 . ; UYU $6,932 . Mr. Furey asked if this is what the Town and Village wants . . . that the Youth Commission present individual requests? Mr. Meskill - stated that he would like to see the Joint Youth Commission . " consider all requests and come up with a recommendation as to where the funds will be spent and bring that to the attention of the Joint Town and Village Boards . Want to be involved with the ' final decisions so that we are aware and agree with it . Mr . Furey stated that is fine, but this year the budget was cut . . .Mr. Meskill and Mr. Griswold explained that the budget was adjusted across the board, with cuts in many areas . Mr. Furey ' '', said that at the time it seemed that the cut to the Youth Commission was aimed at one thing. Mr. Griswold said that if I your request is for example $10 ,000. and we feel we can only budget $8 , 500 . , then you [Youth Commission] have to decide where it goes. I Reimbursement and matching funds was also discussed. Mr. Griswold also suggested that salaries and fees should run through either the Town or the Village. Mr. Reitz asked about a • contract . Mr . Furey said you are then asking for a strict accounting. • � Town of Ulysses/Village of Trumansburg 2 Joint Meeting 9/18/91 The Joint Town/Village Boards felt that more information concerning UYU and activities was needed. Mr. Furey said that would be provided. In other business : Marion Boratynaki , Recycling Coordinator, thanked the Town and Village Boards for the gravel work at the center . Had many questions . . .met with Solid Waste and did get some answers . Businesses can use the drop-off center . • • Requested some type of shelter for inclement weather. Was suggested that an old ticket booth located on the fairgrounds could be moved up and located next to the office building. The Town will take that responsibility. Mr. Bennett asked for an up-date on the Auble Rezoning request . Mr. Reitz stated that nothing new had taken place, the public hearing is scheduled. The next Joint Town/Village Meeting will be held on October 23, 1991 at 7 :30PM. Hearing no further business, Mr. Meskill moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Respectfully submitted, Paula Mount Ulysses Deputy Clerk I � r: 1 t,i t ' . 1' t. !" '• ; r .. .: r �'• .,.. . n ..: r �:-'1- i t; .. it 'i '• '1.I 14 1P • TOWN OP ULYSSES SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING :?'• September 24, 1991 f , Present : William Hogan, Supervisor; Catherine Stover, Thomas Reitz, Carolyn Duddleston, Councilpeople; Bruce Wilson, Town Attorney; Alex Rachun, Zoning/Bldg. Insp. ; Paula Mount, Deputy Clerk. Supervisor Hogan called the Special Town Board Meeting of the • Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 10PM. Mr. Hogan stated that we have to revoke the motion adopted at the last meeting authorizing the Receiver of Taxes to set up a Super • Seven Account . Mr. Hogan moved that the motion of 9/17/91 authorizing the Receiver of Taxes to set up a Super Seven Account be revoked, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Mr. Hogan Aye ML'. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye x , Mrs. Duddleston Aye Approved. Mr. Hogan introduced the following motion, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston: that the Ulysses Town Receiver of Taxes and Assessments be authorized to use the Town Tax Collector accounts • and that any payments are to be remitted to the Town Supervisor 1 by the 15th of the month following their collection; and further, • • all County funds be remitted to the County by the 15th of the month following their receipt. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Approved. Discussion took place regarding grant monies from ARC for water ® projects. No reason to make commitment as the deadline has passed. Mr. Hogan suggested trying again next year and Mr. Reitz agreed. Mrs . Duddleston recommended that it be an ongoing project. . .that it seems that it is always dropped and then twenty days before the next grant application is due, work on it again. Should be working on it now for next year. George Schlecht arrived and asked to address the Board regarding a couple of issues brought forward by County Planning. . . one is traffic. Mr. Schlecht reiterated what has been done regarding an intensive traffic study which they did submit. The second issue is segmentation of SEQR. Have made every attempt not to segment SEQR. The third question concerns spot zoning. This is a substantial piece of property and would be compatible with uses around it. • Hearing no further business, Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston to go to an Executive Session for discussion of possible litigation. Unanimously approved. Respectfully submitted, • Paula J. Mount Deputy Clerk 1 ' �.. .,�, . 1 .I I if. .1 ry I;i` I t • :. 1 ,I1.1 • ... .1. ..•I_ '' •.1, .t. , • TOWN OF ULYSSES PUBLIC HEARING Site Plan Review • October 1 , 1991 Present : Supervisor William Hogan, Councilpeople Carolyn Duddleston, Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover , Robert Weatherby, Town Attorney Bruce Wilson, Zoning/Bldg. Inspector Alex Rachun, Planning Board Chair David Tyler, Town Clerk Marsha Georgia, Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Others Present: See sign in sheet attached. Purpose: To hear public comment on amending the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance/creation of Site Plan Review. • • Mr. Hogan, Ulysses Supervisor opened the public hearing at 7 : 05PM. Mrs . Georgia read the legal notice as published in the - Ithaca Journal September 16, 1991 . • • Mr. Hogan stated that this is the second public hearing on Site Plan Review and that some portions of the original document have been revised as of August 20, 1991 . Mr. Tyler, Planning Board Chairman reviewed the revised document . [Document on file in Town Office. ] • John Czamanske: pointed out several modifications he felt should be made to the Site Plan document . • Ben Curtis : stated that it sounds fine, but it presumes that you have reasonable people who understand and are governed by the long term goals , values and interest of the community. Makes him nervous to put this type of power into the hands of a group of • citizens who may not be reasonable. Seems we might be saddling ourselves with something here that we might regret . Seem to be rushing into it . Arthur Golder: Town has lived with its present zoning ordinance • for the past 30 years pretty successfully. Seems that is so by the safety valve provided. . . that being a PUD. Mr. Golder asked • several questions regarding Site Plan and PUD. • David Tyler: Site Plan does not affect the PUD ordinance. PUD relates to a zoning change. Site Plan is not a zoning ordinance; it relates to things already zoned. . .applies to criteria of • • properties already zoned and would come under this ordinance by • its definitions . • •• Arthur Golder: any piece of legislation adopted, directed at one person or property is not good for the general public. Opposed to Site Plan Review. Harry Weber: haven' t changed my mind since the last hearing, against Site Plan Review. Bruce Wilson: explained the difference between PUD and Site Plan Review. Christopher Gunn: Spoke in favor of Site Plan Review. • • Ruth Kahn: Without Site Plan Review, there is no mechanism for the developer and the Planning Board to discuss what is to be done there. . .but with Site Plan a mechanism would be there? Mr. Hogan: Correct . • i' '� • Town of Ulysses 2 Public Hearing/Site Plan Review - October 1 , 1991 Andrew Rice: Strongly supports some regulations. . . if this is it , so be it . Geri Keil : In favor of Site Plan Review. William Auble : Have tried to work with both the Town and Village; with their regular boards and planning boards. Lawrence Reverby: Town has changed and will continue to change. Need enforcement; in favor of Site Plan Review. h. William Auble: All for Site Plan Review. . .have followed these guidelines submitting our plans . Alan Vogel : Questioned if Site Plan Review process was used on the land being developed across from the ShurSave. . .if present building project would be the same? Mr . Hogan: Don' t have Site Plan in place as yet . Greg Perreault : Would like to see Site Plan Review in place before Mr. Auble 's zoning change for his land in Ulysses is granted, if indeed it is granted. Will have an impact on the entire area. Joe Scherer : Not for or against. Asked what advantage, in terms of legality. Mr. Wilson: Site Plan Review would be an administrative process and would be appealable in an Article 78 to the State Trial Judge with the Supreme Court. The aggrieved party could show that it was arbitrary or capricious; an unreasonable decision by the planning board could be appealed and set aside. The PUD is a zoning change which permits the intended use and the conditions are set on that at the time the Town Board passes it; they would set the criteria, so it 's an actual zoning change. Relative to the zoning change; it ' s not appealable under an Article 78 as arbitrary and capricious; it 's discretionary with the Town on a zoning change. The only challenge would be a constitutional challenge. Ben Curtis : Asked Attorney Wilson how much it would cost for an Article 78 . Mr . Wilson: Filing would cost approximately $170 . to file and the attorney fees would depend upon whoever you hire. Hearing no further comments Mr. Hogan closed the public hearing at 8 : 30PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J . Mount Deputy Clerk pm 111 Lj TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING AUBLE REZONING October 1 , 1991 • Present : Supervisor Hogan; Councilpeople Carolyn Duddleston, Catherine Stover , Robert Weatherby , Thomas Reitz; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia; Town Attorney Bruce Wilson; Zoning/Bldg. Inspector Alex Rachun; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Others Present : See sign-in sheet . PURPOSE: AUBLE REZONING REQUEST. Supervisor Hogan called the Special Meeting of the Town Board, Town of Ulysses to order at 9:25PM. Mrs . Georgia read the legal notice as published in the Ithaca Journal . Mr. Hogan stated that the Board has had several months to consider Mr . Auble' s request for rezoning . Have had public hearing, issued SEQR and talked about doing things based on Site Plan Review, which we do not have now. Need to discuss what is going to happen. Mr. Hogan said that he has talked to many people about this; • personality of the individual is not what is important , what is • important is what is done for the community. Need additional tax • base in this Town to protect the people who are having difficulty paying ever increasing taxes . Have looked at all sides of the question and don' t see development hurting any existing businesses at all . Am convinced that this is a good idea. Would .. like to see some control , but now that we don' t have Site Plan Review, not sure what direction to go in. ;..• Mr. Weatherby stated that we have Planned Unit Development in place, perhaps we could emphasis to use that more as a way of • • having some say and allowing the developer to continue to do what he wants to do. Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Weatherby if he was saying that instead of rezoning this property that we should ask the gentlemen to do something else? Mr. Weatherby said he doesn' t know if that can • be done. Strongly encourage use of PUD. Mrs . Duddleston said that is the only control we have right now; agreed with Mr. Weatherby. • Mr. Weatherby said from the public hearings . . . you are finding more people interested in the development and not basically against it , but they want to have some say and since we have this particular tool in place, would use that . Don't see any problem • with that . • Mr. Reitz said there is a dire need for business . Have put a lot of time and effort into the Auble question. Mitigated substantially from 53 acres to 23 acres . Think we should proceed tonight with the vote on this issue. Mr. Weatherby stated that his comments were not made to discourage development . . .wants to make that clear . Mr . Hogan stated that a majority vote will be needed on this issue. Mrs . Duddleston moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following resolution: I • • Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting Auble Rezoning Request October 1 , 1991 RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses deny Mr . William Auble's petition to rezone property, tax parcel 11-2- 7 . 1 and further recommend that Mr. Auble apply for a PUD when he has a project to propose . Mr . Hogan, hearing no further discussion, called a roll call vote • as follows : Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Mrs . Stover Nay Mr . Reitz Nay Mr . Hogan Aye Rezoning request denied. Mr . Harry Weber asked to speak to the Board concerning Spruce Row Campgrounds . Hearing no further business , Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to • adjourn, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. • Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 10 : 45PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J . Mount • Deputy Clerk pm I • . • • 11 TOWN OF ULYSSES • SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING • October 1, 1991 • Present : Supervisor Hogan; Councilpeople Carolyn Duddleston, Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby, Thomas Reitz ; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia; Town Attorney Bruce Wilson; Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun; Deputy Clerk • Paula Mount . Others Present : See sign-in sheet. • •; ' PURPOSE: SITE PLAN REVIEW Supervisor Hogan called the Special Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8 : 45PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr . Hogan said that the Board has had an opportunity to hear • public comment on Site Plan Review and suggested that a few minutes be taken to consider those comments . Referring to John Czamanske's suggestions : the comment on excluding development districts was a good one. . .Pg. 1 . . . add #6 which states : "development districts and amendments under Article 4 , Section 5 of the Zoning Ordinance are precluded. " • Pg. 3 , last paragraph. . . this was suggested to be moved to 311. Mr. Reitz said that was moved from 311 to 312 at the Jt . Mtg. of the Planing Board/Town Board. Mr. Tyler said the reason was that the sketch plan was going to be an activity of the Planning Board not of the Zoning Officer . Whether it remains here or goes under 311, effect is the same . Board decided to leave this alone. • Pg . 6, first paragraph, second sentence. . .change 'modifications' to ' conditions ' and ' recommended' to 'made' . Mr. Tyler said this is a better use of words . The Board made the change. Pg. 6 , section 317 . 2; item (a) . . .should read ' the Planning Board shall endorse its approval by signature or stamp on a copy of the final site plan Further discussion ensued. Minor changes were made in wording. Hearing no further discussion, Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston on Pg. 1, Item 6 to read "development • districts and amendments to development districts under Article 4, Sec. 5 of the Zoning Ordinance". Unanimously approved. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, seconded by Mr. Reitz on Pg. 5 , Section 314 second paragraph, first sentence. . . "The Planning Board may conduct a public hearing on the preliminary or final site plan and occupancy proposal ". Also, near end of paragraph, add after "complete preliminary or final proposal . . . . " . Under Section 316, first sentence; "After receiving approval , with or without conditions [changed from modifications] , " , and in fifth sentence, "If more than six months has elapsed since the time of the Planning Board's action on the preliminary proposal and if the Planning Board finds that the criteria on which the decision was rendered changed significantly in the interim " Unanimously approved. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston on Pg . 6 , first paragraph, third line. . .change word 'modifications' to "conditions" and on that same line change ' recommended' to "made" . Under Section 317 . 2 , Item (a) , . . , ."the Planning Board shall endorse its approval by signature or stamp on a copy of the • final . . . . " . Unanimously approved. 1. °N•... .. r• it Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting/Site Plan October 1, 1991 Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, seconded by Mr . Reitz on Pg. 7 , Section 317 . 3 , last sentence in paragraph. . . "or other competent persons designated by the Town" . Unanimously approved. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston on Pg. 9, second sentence add "Planning Board in carrying out its • Flood Damage Prevention and Site Plan Review responsibilities . " Unanimously approved. Mr . Hogan asked for comments from the Board. Mrs . Stover read a prepared statement opposing Site Plan Review. Mr. Hogan stated that he was in favor of Site Plan Review. Mr. Weatherby stated that perhaps we should use PUD more in zoning. Hearing no further comments Mr. Hogan offered the following motion, seconded by Mr. Reitz : STATEMENT OF PURPOSE To Enact by Town ordinance pursuant to New York State Town Law Section 274-a Site Plan Review by the Town Planning Board. WHEREAS, at the direction of the Town Board, the Town • Planning Board has made a comprehensive review of the need for and criteria for the orderly review of certain type of projects; and • WHEREAS, a proposed Town Ordinance has been submitted form the Planning Board to the Town Board with comment; and WHEREAS, a duly held joint meeting of the Planning Board and Town Board was held to review same; and WHEREAS, a duly called Public Hearing was held eliciting Public comment and evidencing a public need for an orderly and systematic review by the Planning Board of a certain classification of projects, to be Town wide in nature, and public comments were incorporated into said proposed ordinance and a second Public Hearing duly held thereon; NOW THEREFORE: After careful review and consistent with the purposes and objectives of Section 274-a, the Town Board hereby resolves and does enact the following Town Ordinance: See attached Ordinance revised 10/1/91 . Hearing no further discussion a roll call vote was called as follows : Mrs . Duddleston Nay Mr. Weatherby Nay Mrs . Stover Nay Mr. Reitz Nay Mr. Hogan Aye Resolution Defeated. Special Board Meeting adjourned at 9: 20PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount , Deputy Clerk pm TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR BOARD MEETING , October 8 , 1991 , PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan, Board Members Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, and Robert Weatherby; Highway Superintendent , James Meeker; Zoning/Building Alex Rachun, Town Attorney , Bruce Wilson; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. Others Present : Carl Mann, Peter Meskill , George Patte, Elsie ® Vann, Winnie Baker, Harry Weber, Jody Marshall , Seville Reulein, Rosa Crass , Guy Krough and Ben Curtis . Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 8 : 00PM and lead those assembled in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve the following minutes : Public Hearing 9-3-91 Regular Town Board Mtg . 9-10-91 Adj . Board Mtg. 9-17-91 . Public Hearing 9-17-91 Special Board Mtg . 9-24-91 Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston that the foregoing minutes be approved as presented except that the Public Hearing of 9-3-91 be amended to include speaker Geraldine Keil . Mr. Hogan aye , Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Mr. Weatherby aye •- Adopted Report : Trumansburg Fire Dept . - absent . Report : Representative James Mason - absent Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve claims # 's 325 - 368 less #341 in the amount of $38 . 81 leaving a total of $22 ,063 . 95 , moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mr . Reitz . Mr . Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted Supervisor ' s Financial Report 6to- Mr . Hogan read report (seems ached) . Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Attorney Guy Krough [ represents William Auble] stated that he understands that two significant issues were discussed by the Board. One was Site Plan Review and the second a motion to deny the Auble petition. An amendment to zoning is basically a legislative function, it is within your discretion, and you have a lot of discretion and your decision is given a lot of authority by the courts . . . there is a great presumption of validity that tom . ^r.. Y .. • . Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Board Meeting 10-8-91 goes along with the decision as to zoning amendments because of the constitutional powers you are granted, and the statutory • powers under Town Law, Municipal Home Rule Law, Statute of Local Govt . , etc . What I am here to ask is that the Board exercise the power they have, known as reconsideration . What I am here to ask on behalf of Bill Auble and Dave Auble is that the Board vote on its own motion to reconsider its prior decision denying the petition . Would like to explain why I think reconsideration is • appropriate at this time and then to generate a couple of options from that discussion . . . that I think the Board has in regards to this matter. First , it is my belief , and granted I wasn ' t here, but I don' t think the Board considered all the options they had at the time . Many people believed that there was a marriage between Site Plan and the rezoning proposal . We would basically submit that these are two separate issues and that if the Board has a concern as to whether or not it has enough controls in place to regulate the type of growth the Auble Petition anticipated, that is a separate issue from Site Plan . We are looking for a zoning approval . It is my understanding that the Board is well aware that the number of different regulations that apply from the State Building Code, State Fire Codes and the restrictions that apply in the zoning ordinance itself , so I won' t go over that . Another procedure that the Board has available is known as ' conditional zoning' and another option the Board has is to approve the zoning subject to a moratorium to allow you to put Site Plan into position or to make whatever changes you deem necessary . The second reason that I think reconsideration is warranted is that the recommendation of the Board that Mr . Auble proceed under a development district is not only confusing to us , but also represents a hardship to • Mr. Auble. He is going to have to pay engineers , and attorneys , and numerous individuals to resubmit and go through the exact r same process regarding SEQR, public hearings , all to cover those exact same issues that have been dealt with in depth for two years , and functionally for eleven years , not only by this Board but by the Village, too. The third reason that reconsideration is warranted is that this matter is over ten years old. I am hard pressed to understand what additional information could possibly be learned by rolling this over to yet another application and going through the same process again. I think it will be the fifth time that process has been commenced and apparently concluded . Regarding our confusion to the zoning amendment and the proposal to bring it in as a development district . . . the way I read the ordinance, it says . . . a development district is to be used when you want mixed uses or when you want proposed uses that are not covered by the agricultural zone, resident zone or the business • zone. So when making a determination to submit this matter under a business zone, what we did was look at what proposed uses were going to be there . There are no proposed mix of uses in the zone that we are proposing and there were no uses anticipated that were not specifically listed. There is also a catch-all phrase in that category that deals with additional establishments of this nature . Nothing we proposed goes beyond that , beyond what was allowed in a business district and we are not mixing uses with our proposal , so we are hard pressed to see exactly what a development district . . .how we fit into that category because it ' s restricted to situations where you can' t fit into another category . Another reason, and this is one that Mr . Auble wanted me to stress . . . it is our understanding that the Board itself already considered this issue during the annexation process and specifically . . . both in the act of going to the Appellate Division and in passing it 's original resolution, made a firm w .. ..i,.Yljr .vi c.. . . .' � .. Y,i�" • ., ::1.,', 214 :'.. : .. m .1...::. 4o r .. 4'1 .z.-• rY. , .•C•.. Town of Ulysses 3 . Regular Board Meeting 10-8-91 • determination that the proposed project , as submitted, was in the public interest . What we have done since then is even more narrowly tailored the project , taken out certain uses , simplify . it , propose it be done in phases . . .we have made a lot of changes to it , most of which were changes that were requested by either • the Village or the Town or Planning Board or engineers or planners that we consulted. What we have actually done is more • narrowly tailored the project so that we were specifically within _ the guidelines that we were informed we needed to be within. • '' Originally we had condominium style apartment houses for elderly . . . about six years ago and that was shot down because they thought that would be too dense a population in that close a ,ti relation to a commercial district . We were told to go with • single family housing and reapply. . .X number of years later we ,,. went with single family housing, reapplied, and we were told well • we don' t like the single family housing, what we really need here • is elderly housing . . . and what has happened is that we have been run in circles and we have just come full circle again. We feel that we are being asked to resubmit the exact same proposal as just submitted. I have here, and I 'm sure your records will have it , a list of • reasons why the Village was originally sued and what the findings ' of the Board were as to why the project was in the public interest . That matter was taken to the Village and the Town and ,. • Village were going to attempt to resolve it and as rightly or wrongly predicted, nothing came of that communication between the Village and Town, except I believe there was a map that was at one time proposed that suggested something under three acres of commercial , which quite frankly isn' t large enough to put a parking lot on for a P.E.C. Believe another reason for reconsideration, in talking with . several individuals that were here, interested members of the .- A community and attorneys that were present, is that there was confusion, at least in the eyes of the public, between the Site Plan process and the Auble process . It appeared to a number of I people that somehow the fact that the Site Plan was rejected mandated a rejection of the Auble proposal . Know the Board took a lot of factors into consideration that I am not addressing, but we would like to say that there are other alternatives that are . available. Another reason I think it is warranted is basically what came out at the last public hearing. . . go back six years and go through all • the public hearing minutes and you are going to find an extremely •• vocal minority that made their opinions very well known. Think that was in large part why the annexation was shot down. Go back . a year or so and the annexation again, go to the public hearing there, still heard a vocal minority but it wasn' t as big a majority . . .wasn' t as vocal and there were some people who were actually speaking out on behalf of the project . Go back to the • hearing as to the zoning proposal , what I recall is the stark difference between the public opinion expressed there and what had happened at the annexation hearings . A lot of people, especially farmers , expressed their very clear opinions , and that hadn ' t happened before. Think there is a very strong vocal minority against the project and that vocal minority is always going to be there, but now I think there is a lot of public support for the project and think in part that was the basis on which you decided that this was in the overall public interest . Finally would like to address what is more or less a posturing political type of matter. . .Mr. Auble has been around this fence so many times in the past eleven years , he simply put to me that reconsideration is almost the last resort for him. He is not going to resubmit and face the possibility of having to go through the whole process again, the expense again, when as he r ®® .. Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Board Meeting • 10-8--91 put it quite frankly , there are many other place in New York , or Virginia or Florida where he invests money, where he can put i'- together a project and not have to spend eleven years of his time and money even to get a simple thing done . The original plan was just to seek approval of Phase 1 . . .we had to go back to the drawing board and the extreme basics since the annexation seems to disappear , and go to a zoning change, Phase 1 . It appears that he is even going to have difficulty accomplishing that . Would like to go back and just discuss the conditional zoning issues and the moratorium issue and let the Board know what types of options are available in terms of whether or not a reconsideration would be something that you might be interested in . The Town Board can place reasonable restrictions upon a proposed amendment that even if that private property where those conditions are imposed to protect the public and the public interest . . . [cited case in Onondaga County] . What I submit , based on what I understand as the powers of the Board and the power they have, is that the Town has the. option of approving the upon specified conditions ; such conditions can incorporate those elements of the site plan or those elements of a development district which you feel might be particularly useful to protect - the public interest in regards to this proposal . In that regard, want to go onto the second option which is essentially the use of a restriction or conditional restriction as a moratorium. You can make the approval subject to a building moratorium or developmental moratorium or any other type of commonly recognized moratorium. What this allows the Town to do is deal with an ongoing situation regarding site plan or changes • to the zoning ordinance while at the same time saying Yes , this is a good idea and Yes , we would like to see it happen. But - until we have these things in order we can' t allow you to proceed; we will approve the change, so that step one is there, you can go ahead with your plans but we have to put our site plan in place first , otherwise we don' t feel we have adequate control . [cited Appellate Case 1989] Have spent a good deal of time reviewing Site Plan and discussing it with people. . . our law office serves as attorneys for the Town of Lansing and have prepared their Site Plan. Think I have an idea why the public seemed to be strongly against it, but don' t want to address that . . . but want to emphasize that they are two separate issues that may have been confused. What I am asking here on behalf of Mr . Auble is not that the Board change its vote, or ultimate vote. . .what I am asking is that the Board entertain a motion made by one of its members to rescind the prior decision and agree to reconsider the Auble Proposal on its merits . Am only asking that the Board reconsider at this time . . .we are not asking for a decision to be made at this time and in fact would like to see the action tabled so the Board would have time to consider whether or not a conditional or moratorium style of zoning is to the benefit . . . obviously the importance of the project or the impact it might have on a community and the complexity of the matters involved. . . there would be no practical way you could reconsider and make a final vote tonight . . . there is a lot that has to be done. Mr. Hogan turned the floor to Bruce Wilson, Ulysses Town 111 Attorney. Mr . Wilson said that the question as to what the Board can do. . . the Board can reconsider it . Don' t think, and will have to review the cases Mr . Krough referred to , you can do the conditional zoning without bringing this back to a public hearing. The Hoard can reconsider; in terms of a moratorium not sure the Board can do that . . .will have to check into that . My understanding is that when the Board is considering a municipal wide rezoning, in order to protect the community during that period of time, a limited moratorium is allowed. . . don' t know if Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Board Meeting 10-8-91 that has been applied to a particular parcel . . .will have to look into that . Again, conditional zoning is a case law interpretation. If you get into conditional zoning, what you are doing is creating a new zone . The Town has a business zone, residential zone , etc . you are putting in a new zone, and you will have to open it up to public comment again . The risk is , • • you are catering to Mr . Auble ' s concerns to some extent . . . nothing wrong with that in terms of trying to find the appropriate use for the property . . . the conditions are just unique to Mr . Auble's property and you get back into the question of rezoning, spot zoning to Mr. Auble 's plan. I lay this open for thought to the • Board; the Board does have the right to reconsider . The Board can reconsider it as it was and just re-vote if you want to, but when you get into the question of moratorium or conditional zoning, I would have to do some more work on it . Mr . Reitz asked Mr . Wilson if the Board "conditional zoning by creating zones" like a Cl, C2 , R1, 2 , 3 . . .make it townwide, not just for the purpose of Mr. Auble. . . any new rezoning in the Town • • can fall under these categories . Mr . Wilson said you can make it townwide classification, a lot of communities have R1 ,R2 ,R3 so you can do that . . . the difficulty here is that I 'm not sure; no one has said what those conditions of zoning are, so you are back to the Board with what is this . . . is this site plan review for that particular parcel . . .we have to define what those are. Mr . Hogan reiterated. . . if the Town decided they wanted to change , the zoning ordinance and create a district where the Auble property is and specifically state in that particular area of the Town it would have a B2 designation, and that particular designation would include X number of uses and in addition to that , because of it ' s location in the Town, site plan review would be specifically applied to that parcel? Mr. Wilson said site plan review is a misuse of the term, don' t think that applies here. What you could do is create a more limited use or different requirements for that district and you could incorporate what your concerns are relative to the site, into those different zones . If you start creating new zones, then you are rezoning, so first of all you are going to have to go back and do the process again . Mr . Hogan said the Town Board can decide to do this, hold a public hearing, etc. Mr. Wilson said yes , you can announce that you wish to create a new zoning concept and initiate it yourself , and that is preferable than a person coming forward with their parcel and asking to be rezoned . If the Town Board initiated that you can do that , include this parcel , and other parcels in that process and come up with a comprehensive plan that is intended to fit that kind of need. Mr . Reitz indicated that we did have a committee revise the zoning , never adopted it , which would fit into this concept . Mr . • Wilson agreed . Mr . Mann asked if there was a time limit on reconsideration . Mr . Wilson indicated he did wish to answer that . Mrs . Duddleston - said 30 days? Mr . Krough said he understands that there is functionally no time limit . The point is that the closer to the time that the decision is made to reconsider the less subject it is to attack . Agree with Mr . Wilson that if you put enough restrictions on a conditional zone, essentially what you are doing is changing the original proposal such that an additional public hearing would be required. The basic law , as I understand it is that you do not need an additional public hearing if you are dealing with what is nebulously known as substantially the same proposal . If you are talking about restrictions where you are incorporating a significant number of elements from site plan, or zoning, then yes , you will get into another public hearing. What I am asking is that the Board reconsider the - . ainieii..11111.0:11Walffler .. yea •�. Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Board Meeting 10-8-91 proposal and keep it alive and on the table; then can discuss 81 , 82 , or conditional zoning, whichever way you want to take it . • Mr . Hogan stated that he didn' t feel the Board had enough • information from our Town Attorney at this point to entertain a %• motion to reconsider . Would like to see Mr. Wilson get together with Mr . Krough, clarify some of these issues and get back to the Board and we can take action at that time. Was agreed to table until further information is reported . Jody Marshall asked why minutes of meetings can' t be posted in post office in Jacksonville and Trumansburg and at the bank. Mr . Hogan stated that request has been made in the past . Working on a limit budget and minutes are available here for anyone interested. Mrs . Marshall discussed the housebound, non-driving public, or elderly such as those in Jacksonville . Mrs . Georgia also mentioned that if Mrs . Marshall would like a copy of the minutes all she need do is call this office and they will be mailed. Mr. Reitz said he would be happy to post the minutcs in Jacksonville. Mrs . Marshall also questioned a water district in Jacksonville and grant monies available; has heard many stories . Mr . Hogan 4 reiterated the history, grant money available, etc. Mrs . Marshall suggested updating the last study. Mr. Hogan said that would be costly. Mr. Reulein stated that HUD money is always available . Mr. Hogan said HUD money based on income of residents . Mr. Reulein suggested floating a bond, we are the only Town in the County who hasn' t floated a bond/afraid to spend money . OLD BUSINESS Spruce Row Campsite Development Dist #1 Mrs . Crass referred to page 4 and Alex Rachun' s comments . Mr . Rachun said that his comments on page 4 of the minutes are exactly what he said. Mr . Rachun also stated that he would like to make it very clear to the Board that when he processed SEQR it was with the full understanding that Harry Weber has made no requests . This is strictly the Board's undertaking, revising development district #1 . If Mr. Weber had made a request our SEQR is in violation because we filled out both Part 1 and 2 . . .by that we acted as both the developer, initiator and reviewer. Would also question the Board's expenditure of money for the map if Mr. Weber has made a request . My understanding is that the requests during this whole process were withdrawn, and the Board, after denying the initial request by Mr . Weber, entertained a revision amending this development district on paper. Consequently down the line, if a request was made by the developer, then that changes light on the SEQR process . Mr. Patte questioned the one mobile home. . . feels that constitutes spot zoning. Mr . Weber said his understanding that everything here is based on compromise. 1 OC Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Board Meeting 10-8-91 Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve SEQR as written. • Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses declare a negative declaration on the application for SEQR . • Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve the amendment to Development District #1 as amended by the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses . Mrs . Stover moved seconded by Mrs . Duddleston the following amendment to PUD #1 . 1 . This district shall be known as Planned Unit Development District Number 1 . 2 . The purposes for which the district may be used are as follows : a. Campsites . b. Living accommodations for campers shall be either tents, or moveable Recreational Vehicles built with the intent to be campers . Recreational Vehicles shall be a vehicle that can be moved on the highway without a special permit from the New York D.O.T. (therefore no wider than 8 feet) as per our law per date of this writing. The two existing Park Models (over 8 feet wide) will remain but not be replaced. c . The campgrounds shall be open for the season camping from May 1 through October 15 . Off-season no more than 20% occupancy at any given time for temporary camping (85 units) . Length of stay no more than seven (7) consecutive days during off-season. [This is designed to accommodate such recreational activities as hunting, fishing, skiing, etc. ] 3 . Area and Density of District Area: The area of said district shall be approximately 83 acres plus 2 . 5 acres to include the house and pond . (Note • accompanying Map #1) The house is to be treated under the normal conformity of a residential district . All that tract or parcel of land situated in the Town of Ulysses , County of Tompkins and State of New York, and being part of Military Lot 16 in said Town and bounded and described as follows : Beginning at a point in the center line of Kraft Road approximately 2 , 643 feet from the west line of Military Lot 16; Thence south parallel to the west line of Military Lot 16 approximately 2 ,061 feet to the south line of Military Lot 16; Thence west along the said south line of Military Lot 16 approximately 2 , 643 feet to the west line of said Military Lot 16 (being the east line of Military lot 15) ; • Town of Ulyssen 8 Regular Board Meeting 10-8-91 Thence north along the west line of Military Lot 16 approximately 1 , 188 feet to a point; Thence northeasterly along a hedgerow and woodlot about 528 feet ; Thence in a southeasterly direction along the said hedgerow and woodlot about 462 feet; Continuing thence in a southeasterly direction along the said hedgerow about 792 feet to a second hedgerow which runs north and south; Thence north along said second hedgerow about 792 feet to a third hedgerow which runs east and west ; Thence west and parallel with Kraft Road approximately 88 feet to a point; • Thence north and perpendicular to Kraft Road approximately 351 feet to center line of Kraft Road; Thence east along center line of Kraft Road 1034 feet to the point of beginning . Density: The number of campsites in the district is to be not more than 425 sites . There shall be a minimum of 2500 square feet per campsite as directed by New York State and • Tompkins County Health Department rules . 4 . Specifications for Campsites a. East of the driveway (as going into the campgrounds to •, the left) campsite numbers 1-9, 11 , 20, 21 and 20A are to remain as they are, no closer than 275 ft . from the center line of Kraft Road; natural vegetation to remain as it is today; campsites to remain as they are on the map; no new campsites to be added within the area. b. Parking - Two hour temporary parking North of the hedgerow (labeled as #1 hedgerow on map) for patrons or their guests . c . The six ( 6) temporary hookups to the South of this hedgerow; three ( 3) locations, two (2) in each • location, shall be no closer than 275 ft . from Kraft Road; they are for temporary overflow and no further • camping in this area is allowed. The buffer area created by this hedgerow shall remain and be encouraged to grow. d. Each campsite shall have a designated area for campfire and shall be located, cleared and protected, in accordance with recommendations of the Trumansburg Fire Chief . e. All roads within the district shall be at least 12 feet in width, properly marked with the necessary signs . 5 . Sewage & Garbage Disposal a. Sewage and garbage disposal shall meet all requirements of the Tompkins County Health Department . 1 • 9 . 3prpceeRow PUD R ised 7/16/91 1 h. Rodent tight refuse containers shall be provided no that there shall be a minimum of one container for every four campsites . c . There shall be absolutely no dumping of any type of refuse whatsoever in Willow Creek. d . Garbage shall be picked up at least twice per week during the months of June, July, and August , and at least once per week during the remainder of the season. 6 . Water Facilities a . Drinking water shall be provided and conform to the Tompkins County Health Department standards . b. There shall be no bathing in Willow Creek. 7 . Maintenance a. The entire district shall be kept free and clear of all litter and be maintained in a neat and orderly manner . 8 . Signs a . One namesake sign or bulletin board not exceeding eighteen (18) square feet is allowed. Said sign shall not be self-illuminating and the bottom of said sign shall not be more than five (5) feet from the ground . 9. Commercial Sales a. There shall be no commercial sales in this district except the sales of firewood, charcoal , or other fuel to be used for camping purposes , and an inventory of miscellaneous and sundry items for the accommodation and use of campers and their guests . • b. There shall be no commercial sales of camping vehicles • at Spruce Row Campgrounds . 10 . Storage Storage of RV's and boats on trailers is allowed, however: a . No more than 60% of the campsites (255) can be used for storage, one unit per campsite and ten units stored at a location to be designated by the property owner (in a designated area) . In-season storage shall be limited to the campsites themselves or the area designated storage on the overall map . 11 . Buffers All natural buffers are to remain, and in addition: 111 a . From the current driveway, east , approximately 40 ft . from the centerline of the road in line with the current tree line, a hedge (indicated on the map as hedgerow #2) of evergreens is to be established; minimum space 6 ft . , minimum size of plants to plant , 4 ft . Two rows of trees deep. If any die, they are to be replaced. • n0 4 q ropo ed 10 Spr e Row PUD Re ised 7/16/91 • b. The hedge by the dump station is to be interplanted with evergreens and trees from the entrance road to the west boundary. The purpose is a dense visual barrier to hide vehicles and activities and provide privacy for the regular users and campers as well as the neighbors . Minimum size at planting 4 ft . c . All natural cover on the remaining boundaries shall • remain and natural growth of said boundaries to be encouraged. II 12 . That one mobile home, larger than 750 square feet , be permitted in the PUD, in the location of the southwest • corner of the barn, 100 feet west , 200 feet south, back 300 feet east , 200 feet northwest to the corner of the barn; and that the mobile home will be skirted and the hedgerow that exists now remain a screening. Mr. Hogan called for a roll call vote. Vote is as follows : Mr . Weatherby aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Reitz aye Mr . Hogan aye Adopted Planning Board Vacant Mr . Hogan stated that the Board had interview candidates for the open position on the planning board, but still had a couple of interested people to interview. He is also in receipt of a letter of resignation from Seville Reulein that is effective immediately from the planning board and now there are two positions open. II After some board discussion it was decided to re-advertise the • now vacancy of two positions . This will be re- advertised and interviews will take place on Saturday morning October 26th, 1991 starting at 8 : 00 AM. The cut off date for excepting letters of interest will be October 25th, 1991 Fire Department Budget, Mr. Hogan announced to the Board Members that he had received the budget from the Village of Trumansburg for the Town' s fire Protection contract and that they are asking for a 8% increase. Mr. Hogan felt that an 8% increase was to high and felt that the Board should negotiate with the Village . Mrs . Duddleston requested that Mr . Hogan provide copies of the fire budget to the other Board members and than discuss this with the Village Board at the upcoming Village/Town joint meeting. NEW BUSINESS Trailer Park Fees Mr . Hogan asked how long it had been since the fees had been increased and for what did the fees cover. Mr . Rachun stated that it had been over twenty years since the fees had been increased and that they covered the enforcement of zoning in the parks . •_' Mr . Hogan asked Mr . Rachun to look into what other towns were charging . /``, ref i \� (t\ Propo d 11 Spr a Row PUD R iced 7/16/91 1 b\ " Alpha House Water District Mr . Hogan reported that the auditor had suggested that the Board set a late payment charge to Alpha House on their water bill if their payment was over 30 days from time of billing , that the .'., Town increase the handling charge and that they need to pass a resolution to increase the rate per gallon for use that was imposed by the Village . Mr . Hogan moved , seconded by Mrs . Stover the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses impose a 10% late payment charge after 30 days from time • . of billing . . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye _ Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Mr . Weatherby aye • Adopted • Mr . hogan moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses increase the handling fee charged to Alpha House from $5 . to $10 . per billing . . Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye • Mrs . Stover aye . • Mrs . Duddleston aye Mr . Weatherby aye ' re 1 Adopted Tompkins County Spring Clean Up Mr . Hogan has received communication from the County stating that they will allow the Towns to dump materials collected from a Spring Clean-UP in the land fill and not charge them the tipping fee. Mr . Meeker stated that he is aware of this offer but the County •. wants this done in the month of March and that is not the time to do it because his trucks and all the other surrounding town ' s and village ' s trucks are still equipped with salt boxes , plows , etc . • March is not the time to do this . The County reports that the • land fill will be closed after May . _ Mr . Hogan asked Mr . Meeker to explore this idea further and see • what the other towns were going to do. Mr . Meeker has a meeting with all town Highway Superintendents next week . He will report back. Mainstay Fund Mr . Hogan stated that the auditor had pointed out that the I employees 403 B Mainstay Fund that they are participating in is • wrong for municipal employees and that it should be a 457 . Mr . Rachun has contacted Scott Hurlbut the Mainstay representative and he is looking into another avenue to follow and put the funds in a proper investment . ( the employees were misinformed) Mr . Hogan has been asked to write a letter to Mainstay asking for the funds to be returned to the employees without assessing a - penalty. It was decided that Mr. Hogan and Mr . Rachun will get together Wednesday morning and speak with Mainstay , IRS or a tax consultant for the best way to proceed.• - � Pro sed 12 Sp uce w PUD • • evis 7/16/91 REPORTS Town Clerk Mrs . Georgia reported that a total of $4, 567 . 50 was collected in • • fees for the month of September of which $1 , 623 . 53 were turned over to the Supervisor along with the monthly report . • Highway Superintendent I • Mr. Meeker reported that for the month of September they paved 'I. and sealed Curry Road and sealed Rabbit Run Road. Mowed road ;• sides . Zoning/Building Inspector Mr . Rachun reported that 8 permits were issued, 3 starts , 2 additions and 3 miscellaneous. He met today with a • representative from NYS Codes division and showed him around to different sites. The BZA did not meet this month. • Board Members • Mr . Reitz asked if there was to be any board action on the letter they had received from Charolett Johns re: Cayuga Nature Center. Mr. Hogan stated there is no action for the board to take. • CORRESPONDENCE • Mr. Hogan received the following correspondence: ACC; US Congress; an estimate of cost for Salt Shed of $27 ,000 . ; Tompkins County Planning Dept . ; City of Ithaca, Youth; note from Lou Paley with correction; Ass . of State of NY; Tom Reitz with statement for Cayuga Nature Center; Public Housing; TCPB 2391m on Spruce Row Campsite. Mr. Hogan also thanked Mr. Reulein for his fine job in serving on the Town Planning Board. There will be a budget meeting on Thursday, October 17th at 5 :00PM. Hearing no further business , Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston, Mrs . Stover and Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk mg/pm 1 SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING BUDGET WORKSHOP 10-17-91 • PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Board Members Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston. Alex Raahun, Building/Zoning Inspector; James Meeker , Highway Superintendent ; Jeanne Vanderbilt , Bookkeeper ; Marsha • Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present : Roger Rector, Paula Mount , Christine Springer • Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 5 : 20 PM. The Board members had been provided copies of the tenative budget that was received by the clerk Sept 30 , 1991 . (a44 y) • The following changes were made to the tenative budget : GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS A1010 .,1 $10 ,123 decreased $ 202 A1220 . 1 11,813 decreased 315 A1670 . 4 4,000 increased 1 ,000 A1910 . 4 17 ,000 decreased 9, 000 :. A3510 . 4 6, 370 increased 114 • A5132 . 2 12 ,000 increased 4 ,500 A6510 . 4 375 increase 375 A9040 . 8 5 ,520 increase 20 A9060 . 8 25 , 232 increase 2 ,703 • GENERAL FUND REVENUES A1170 1 , 400 increase 200 A2544 1 ,000 increase 1,000 A3089 200 increase 200 • A3801 375 increase 375 GENERAL OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND APPROPRIATIONS 83410 .1 1,700 decrease 300 89060 . 8 4,865 increase 521 GENERAL OUTSIDE VILLAGE REVENUES • 82115 200 increase 100 82555 4 ,000 increase 500 B3389 2 ,000 increase 500 HIGHWAY FUND APPROPRIATIONS DA5130 . 2 20 ,000 decrease 3 ,000 DA5130 . 4 40 ,000 decrease 5,000 DA5142 . 4 15,860 decrease 7 ,000 DA5148 . 4 15, 860 decrease 7 ,000 HIGHWAY REVENUES no changes HIGHWAY OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND APPROPRIATIONS no changes HIGHWAY OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND REVENUES no changes • I 1 . Special Board Mtg. 2 Budget • 10-17-91 FIRE PROTECTION SF3410. 4 69, 869 increase 13,191 SF3410 . 4 28 , 642 decrease 1 ,076 WATER FUND APPROPRIATIONS no changes WATER REVENUES no changes The Board discussed that after all the decreases to the appropriations from last years budget and the cuts of this evening that the Town of still facing an overall tax increase of 22 . 5%. Supervisor Hogan asked the Board members to take a long hard look • at the budget and come to the next meeting with some additional thoughts to lower the budget. The next meeting was scheduled for October 26th, 1991 at 7 :00 pm. Also a tenative date was set for the public hearing on the budget. Hearing no further discussion Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover for adjournment . Unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned 10 : 45pm. Respectfully submitted, P. Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk • ±.•ri =it• .'.:), 2.2/.7 S.'. Oa, r .. iJ 7i" "a:�'q :,.•:4..'L - '/r. S .a .. Joint Village of Trumansburg OD Town of Ulysses Board Meeting i October 23, 1991 The Joint Village/Town Board Meeting was held on Wednesday, October 23, 1991 at the Village Meeting Room 56 E. Main St. . Trumansburc, New York. Present : Village of Trumansburg - Mayor Tom Bennett , Trustees : Bill Griswold, Peter Meskill , Karl Zylich, John Rogers. Town of Ulysses : Supervisor Bill Hogan, Councilpersons: Tom Reitz , Catherine Stover Joint Youth Commission: John Furey, Dan Watson, • Kevin Shreve Trumansburg Fire Department : Chief Dick Durling, Jack Fulton ( arrived at 8:30 pm) . Recording Minutes: Sharon Housworth, Village Clerk Mayor Bennett called the meeting to order at 7:30 prn. Supervisor Hogan stated he had a correction to the Joint Meeting on July 24, 1991 regarding the approval by the Town Board for a business to assembly log homes. Supervisor asked the correction be changed from "building" log homes to prepare and • condition logs. Mayor Bennett asked John Rogers to present his report for the Joint Youth Commission (JYC) . John stated the JYC meet a - couple of weeks ago for the 1992 budget request ; they would present it to the town and village for their input and approval ; report back to JYC, • Councilperson Reitz suggested they review the process. The summer recreation program and state aid forms should be sent to the County Youth Bureau for processing because of state cutbacks. The 1992 funding levels are as follows : state aid for recruoLion: $1152 (previous $1600) - State aid for Youth Serv. : $1008 (previous $1400) Total state aid from DFY : $2160 Minimum to appropriate: $2160 x 2 = $4320 1991 County Youth Services funding for local purposes for- the village is $6487. • Supervisor Hogan stated the youth portion of their budget is the most confusing, where the money goes and how to apply for reimbursement. Kevin Shreve started it will run much more smoothly this coming year. The JYC will present all of the 1992 funding request to the Boards (Town & Village) for each program. The JYC will advise both boards once they know how many dollars are available from the boards. The town will soon have figures and the village has their figures up to the end of May. Hopefully it will balance out the town and village and make it less confusion. The Village has carried the summer recreation program and the town the development programs. The boards will know where the money is going and what the benefits are of the programs. Supervisor Hogan asked if the budget dollars are given to the JYC. Kevin stated the Town (or Village) has final say as where the money will be spent and how much for the programs. Initially it was decided two or three years ago the contract and check writing would run through the village and the town would pass it back to the village, which can be amended. • • : a)• Trustee Meskill asked it the villar:rr_ could an an example, do the summer recreation program and the town pick up the rest . Councilperson Reitz stated each municipality has to apply for reimbursement from the state and county separately . Kevin stated to make it easier to understand you could take the summer youth program and the youth development program and cut them in half between the town and village or comparable to each ( town and village) ; make one budget for the whole thing and share equally in the two budgets., Kevin stated that county reimbursement does not have to be tax dollars; it can be "an in kind" match, funds from donations • or fund-raising. Councilperson Reitz stated that Ken Lansing was paid $1080 for the DARE program from the village. In order to receive total reimbursement, the village needs to submit to CYS (County Youth Service) how the $2160 was spent either for purchases or a salary • log and a copy of the check, this is a type of "in kind" service. It was decided to move on to 1992 proposed budget for the following programs by the JYC. Mr. Furey explained that the proposed figures were given to the JYC from each program; the • village and town decide on what they will allocate and the JYC • will decide how the money will be divided into the programs and report back to the village and town. Trustee Meskill suggested that in some areas of the summer recreation program the fees may need to be increased or in some cases where there are no fees, a charge may have to be added. Programs as follows: ( information sheets supplied for each of the programs) Summer Recreation Program $21, 100. 00 Summer Job Program 3, 000. 00 Learning Web 6, 000. 00 Child Sexual Abuse Project 1, 520. 00 Suicide Prevention & Crisis Serv, 968. 00 Ulysses Philomathic Library 2, 500. 00 D. A. R. E. 4, 112. 00 Ulysses Youth Unlimited 20, 796. 00 TOTAL REQUEST : $59, 996. 00 Kevin stated the town and village will give the JYC a dollar figure, and the JYC will come back with figures for each program for approval from the town and village. It was decided the boards will arrive at a budget figure and report back to the Joint Youth Commission. Next item of discussion: Fire Department Budget . Trustee Rogers stated he had to leave; Wednesday is not a convenient night for him to attend a board meeting; perhaps they • could be scheduled another evening in the future. • Trustee Meskill prepared a report stating the Village Board and Fire Department met on September 30, 1991 and thoroughly • discussed the 1991-92 budget. Based on discussion the board felt a need to increase the fire Apparatus Reserve fund instead of bonding for fire apparatus, and to maintain a replacement schedule. The net affect to a town resident with a property value of $100, 000. 00 would be an increase of $8. 99 over the past budget to provide Fire, Rescue and Ambulance service. Tho Town of Ulysses has the lowest rate available to any county taxpayer for this type of service. Supervisor Hogan stated he understands that, but the Town is going through a tough budget year. They have two items listed under fire protection; last year for fire protection operating it was $56, 678, and fire protection building (bond) was $29, 718. This year based on the percentage the town has to pay the fire operating was increased to $69, 816 and a decrease of building was $28, 600; which results in a 14 percent increase. Supervisor Hogan stated they have cut thousands of dollars from their budget and still talking about a 22 percent increase in taxes. He knows the fire department needs the equipment and they do a great job, but this is not the year to increase it to 14 percent . Councilperson Stover asked what the majority increase was. Trustee Meskill answered mostly in the reserve fund. Presently there is approximately $62, 000. to $63, 000 in the reserve fund for fire equipment. The fire department would like to order a truck in the next few months that cost in the range of $140, 000 to $150, 000. There was a lengthy discussion between the two boards and fire department . Trustee Griswold presented a MOTION seconded by Mayor Bennett to lower the Fire Apparatus Reserve Fund to $40, 000. 00 with the understanding that it goes back to $50, 000. 00 next year to purchase a truck in 1993. Vote: Trustee Zylich Nay • Trustee Meskill Nay Mayor Bennett Aye Trustee Griswold Aye Trustee Rogers Absent Supervisor Hogan stated he felt the Village Board could cut the reserve to $40, 000. 00 and show a little cooperation with the Town and the fire department could still purchase their truck in 1993. Trustee Meskill suggested to the village board and Dick Durling to lower the amount to $45, 000. 00. Trustee Griswold presented a MOTION seconded by Trustee Meskill to lower the Fire Apparatus Reserve Fund to $45, 000. 00 with the understanding that it goes back to $50, 000. 00 next year to purchase a truck in 1993. Vote: Trustee Zylich Aye • Trustee Meskill Aye Mayor Bennett Aye Trustee Griswold Aye Trustee Rogers Absent Unanimously Approved. With no further business Trustee Griswold presented a MOTION seconded by Trustee Meskill to adjourn the Joint Village/Town Board Meeting. Unanimously Approved. Meeting adjourned at 10:25 P. M. Respectfully submitted, Sharon Housworth, Clerk • SPECIAL BOARD MEETING _. BUDGET WORK SHOP 10-28-91 PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston and Robert Weatherby; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk; James Meeker, Highway Superintendent; Jeanne Vanderbilt , Bookkeeper. Others Present: Carl Mann Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 8:00 pm. The following changes were made to the tenative budget: GENERAL FUND REVENUES A3820 $4,250 increase $ 450 A3820 2,160 increase 1,160 HIGHWAY FUND APPROPRIATIONS DA5142.4 13,860 decrease 2,000 HIGHWAY OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND APPROPRIATIONS DB5110.4 35,000 decrease 3,450 FIRE PROTECTOR SF3410. 4 67,275 decrease 2,594 Hearing no further changes Mrs . Duddleaton moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby to move the tenative budget to the preliminary budget. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz nay Mrs. Stover aye • Mrs. Duddleston aye Mr. Weatherby aye • Adopted Mrs. Vanderbilt will do these changes on the computer and forward the Preliminary Budget to the Clerk before the public hearing. Hearing no further business the meeting was adjourned at 11:00pm Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk ► 7.1$ :` { SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEE INO . BUDGET WORK SHOP . 10-17-91 aiy,Ay PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Board Members Thomas Reitz , • Catherine Stover , Carolyn Duddleston. Alex Rachun, Building/Zoning Inspector; James Meeker, Highway Superintendent ; Jeanne Vanderbilt , Bookkeeper; Marsha . Georgia, Town Clerk . Others Present : Roger Rector, Paula Mount , Christine Springer Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 5 : 20 PM. The Board members had been provided copies of the tenative budget • that was received by the clerk Sept 30 , 1991 . (attached copy) The following changes were made to the tentative budget : • , GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS A1010 . 1 $10 ,325 decreased $ 202 A1220 . 1 11 , 926 decreased 113 A1670 . 4 4 ,000 increased 500 A1910 . 4 17 ,000 decreased 9,000 • A3510 .4 6,370 increased 114 • A5132 . 2 12 ,000 increased 4,500 A6510 . 4 375 increase 375 A9040 . 8 5,520 increase 20 • . A9060 .8 22 ,529 increase 2 ,703 GENERAL FUND REVENUES A1170 1, 400 increase 200 , A2544 6,000 increase 1,000 A3089 200 increase 200 " A3801 375 increase 375 . GENERAL OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND APPROPRIATIONS ' 83410 . 1 1 , 700 decrease 300 . B9060 . 8 4, 344 increase 521 _ GENERAL OUTSIDE VILLAGE REVENUES B2115 200 increase 100 82555 4 ,000 increase 500 83389 2 ,000 increase 500 HIGHWAY FUND APPROPRIATIONS • DA5130 . 2 20 ,000 decrease 3 ,000 DA5130 . 4 40 ,000 decrease 5,000 DA5142 . 4 15,860 decrease 7 ,000 • DA5148 . 4 15, 860 decrease 7 ,000 HIGHWAY REVENUES no changes HIGHWAY OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND APPROPRIATIONS no changes HIGHWAY OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND REVENUES no changes , Special Board Mtg . 2 Budget 10-17-91 FIRE FROTECTIOJ SF3410 . 4 69, 869 increase 13, 191 SF3410 . 4 28 , 642 decrease 1 ,076 WATER FUND APPROPRIATIONS no changes WATER REVENUES no changes The Board discussed that after all the decreases to the appropriations from last years budget and the cuts of this evening that the Town of still facing an overall tax increase of 22 . 5%. Supervisor Hogan asked the Board members to take a long hard look at the budget and come to the next meeting with some additional thoughts to lower the budget . The next meeting was scheduled for October 28th, 1991 at 7 : 00 pm. Also a tenative date was set for the public hearing on the budget . Hearing no further discussion Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover for adjournment . Unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned 10: 45pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk 1 .. `' .r "S A YIP TOWN OF ULYSSES • PUBLIC HEARING/BUDGET November 7 , 1991 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , • Carolyn Duddleston, Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Purpose: To hear public comment on the proposed 1992 Budget . • Supervisor Hogan opened the Public Hearing at 7 :00PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge cf Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Barbara McKeith - Ulysses Philomathic Librarian - Presented hand- out to the Board members showing current statistics and revenues/expenditures for the coming year . Asked the Board to reconsider not cutting the library allocation for 1992 . Ann Furman - President , Library Trustee - Spoke about adult computer access at the library . Jesse Miller - Library Trustee - Mentioned that the library is asking for the same amount from the Town as last year, even though their budget has increased. Mr. Hogan - Expressed the difficulty in the budget this year; loss of revenue. Realize there are many good organizations that • need help. Kathy Gee - Family & Children's Services - Explained activities • and programs of UYU and number of young people being served. • Have two paid staff members . • Dan Watson - Have a strong Board of. Directors whose main goal is programming. Keeping services to youth that are good and trying • to upgrade other services . UYU has had an image problem and that is because we deal with 'at risk' youth. People tend to focus on • that and fail to recognize the other services we offer. Offered statistics that showed that dollars invested pays off in long s . run. . .put the dollars in youth services rather than later having that money go to the court system. Mr . Reitz - County Youth dollars set aside is a 50% matching grant . . . the ratio is down this year. Janice Johnson - Has attended. all Town Board budget meetings and _._ the Town of Ulysses is the only municipality in the County that is cutting their youth services . The amount is 3/10th of one percent of your total budget . . . is it worth it? Would request that you keep the amount at least at the 1991 level . The tax • • rate in Ulysses , except for the Town of Ithaca and Town of • Lansing. . . is the third less tax rate. As a taxpayer in this municipality, the pennies it would cost me. . . think you should consider the small amount . Mr. Hogan - Worst budget year. Have had to cut everyone. Not an easy job. John Rogers - Village Trustee - Understood Town and Village would split costs . Would set a precedent if the amount you spend is a large degree different than the amount the Village spends. Janice Johnson - Questioned State Retirement line item. Mr. Hogan - That item reflects the Town taking over the Village Court system. Town of Ulysses 2 Public Hearing/Budget • November 7 , 1991 John Rogers - Questioned Dog Control . Mr . Hogan - No increase reflected; however will be looking at • alternatives . Ben Curtis - Questioned Health Insurance. Mr . Hogan - Explained that the Town, aside from active employees, has over the years paid 50% for retirees . Mr. Reitz - Other alternatives that can be explored concerning health insurance coverage. Mr . Hogan - Need to look at this item in the coming couple of months . John Rogers - Questioned Highway Funds . Mr. Hogan - Highway reflects 64% of the total budget . Explained difference between part-town and townwide. Also talked about salt shed. • Ben Curtis - Questioned increase in some revenue areas , ie: interest & penalty. Mr. Hogan - That reflects the revenues from the Court . Also have a zero fund balance this year. Mr. Reitz - Try to work together with intermunicipal agreements, • share equipment with the Village, etc. John Rogers - That is why questioning Youth monies . . . trying to keep on track. Need to combine resources . • Mr. Reitz - The Village is anticipating $17 , 600 . on Youth next • year. . . is that what you budgeted? We have reduced our to $15 ,000 . Mr . Hogan - Suggested at Joint Youth Commission that the summer rec program. . .don' t want to see anyone denied in participating in any program. . .but there could be a fund there [and I could help get some money in the kitty] so that anyone who couldn' t afford to pay could still play. . . right now the kids pay $10 . ; if that • fee was raised to $15 . and you still serve 300+ kids that would be another $1, 500 . , would help defray expenses and help our budget . Those are the types of things that are going to have to be done. . . folks on a fixed income can no longer afford these luxuries . The Town cannot be all things to all people. Kevin Shreve - That would be an excellent way to help offset some of the costs of some programs . Other things that are more preventative in nature. . . that will provide services to kids in our town that will help them become more useful members rather than more destructive members . DARE and UYU are a couple of • programs that try to help get kids on track. Talking 3/10 of a percent of the budget. . . these funds that are being cut could really help us avoid a big problem in the future. Keep that in perspective. Janice Johnson - As hard economic times that are coming ahead, more and more families both parties work and that is where more support is needed. Dan Watson - UYU has saved lives . . .dealt with kids during times of suicide; battered homes; that still goes on in this community and without those programs you will see people hurting; most • especially under economic stress, will escalate. • S • Town of Ulysses 3 Public Hearing/Budget November 7 , 1991 • • • • Kevin Shreve - You are talking a 36% cut in an area that is very problematic . . .Human Services are oft times looked at as an area • you can forget about . . . an area we don' t want to face sometimes . Dan Watson - Economically it will pay itself back. . . every kid that goes into the judicial system through your tax dollars, down the road you are going to pay for. . .DSS, Probation, etc. when any • other agency gets involved it will cost you more tax dollars in the long run. Will hit you through the County, State. . . those problems will escalate and lead on to criminal behavior and that will cost you down the road ten-fold easily. Ben Curtis - Talked about parent/dollar contribution; as Mr. Hogan mentioned. • Kevin Shreve - Joint Youth Commission has talked about this r' . concept . . . do need more than tax dollars . • Mr. Weatherby - Agree with Sill Hogan, can' t be everything to everybody. • • Janice Johnson, Kevin Shreve and Dan Watson reiterated their feelings about the need to continue with the youth funds and programs provided. No other municipalities cutting their youth • budgets . Cutting means you lose dollars and will also affect County dollars returned. Joe Scherer - Spoke in support of youth services . Will end up spending more in the Court, jails, etc. • Kevin Shreve - Realize and admire the board for having to weigh • these decisions and hope those decisions have a human return to • • you. . . every single loader you buy gives us a better way of living and think when we talk about youth funding, think it really does have an effect . Hearing no further comment , the public hearing was closed. Mr . Weatherby questioned the sales tax from the County . . .perhaps investigate using those dollars to reduce Town taxes and control • the tax dollars . Mr. Reitz said it is a good point, should look into it . Would probably need to pass a resolution so wouldn' t help this year. Mr. Hogan said he would need to look into it very carefully before deciding to do this . Think we need to start at the first of the new year and look at ways to cut the budget . . .don' t wait until budget time. Mr. Weatherby brought up the Fire Dept . budget request . They • • shouldn' t wait so long to give us their budget . Feel if we are • paying 52% of the budget we should have more say . Mrs . Duddleston said we should talk to the fire department . . . tell them this is all we can do. . . take it or leave it . Mr. Hogan suggested the Board meet at 7 : 15PM on Tuesday night prior to the Regular Town Board Meeting. . . interview final candidates for Planning Board. Mr. Reitz said perhaps consider for next year, two meetings a month. Have had 32-33 meetings thus far this year. Also consider a different night , thus get better communications with our residents through the FreePress . Mr. Reitz stated that there is still $700 . from 1990 that the • • Town of Ulysses - - 4 Public Hearing/Budget November 7 , 1991 Town should be reimbursed. . . Janice Johnson has notified him that this money is there. Have Jeanne speak to Janice Johnson directly on this one item. Hearing no further business, Mrs . Stover moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Unanimously approved, the Board adjourned at 9: 30PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount Deputy Clerk • • • , . . •. 1 , _ TOWN OF ULYSSES ' REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING November 12, 1991 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby , Catherine Stover; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . • Others Present : Peter Meskill , Ruth & Peter Kahn, Ben Curtis , James Mason, Steve Proctor . Mr . Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Town Board, Town of , Ulysses to order at 8 :00PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes of Regular Town Board Mtg . of October 8, 1991; Special Board Mtg. October 17 , 1991 ; Special Board Mtg . October 28 , 1991; Public Hearing/Site Plan October 1 , 1991; Public Hearing/Auble October 1 , 1991. • Motion moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Mr. . • Reitz asked that the meeting of October 17 , 1991 be tabled as he . has some questions . Unanimously approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department Absent Report : Representative James Maso Mr. Mason discussed the County Budget for 1992; after much work . on cutting back in areas have gotten it down to a 15% increase . Also talked about the suggested 1% sales tax increase. Mrs . Duddleston and Mr. Reitz agreed with the 1% sales tax increase, Mr. Hogan and Mr. Weatherby both felt that as a first option the County Board needs to look for further cuts in the budget . Mrs . Stover indicated that she has to think further on this issue. Claims Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #369-421 [withholding #380] in the amount of $30 , 564 . 55 , moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Unanimously approved. Supervisor ' s Financial Report Mr . Hogan read the report [see attached] . Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Barbara Page announced Wetlands conference on November 23 , 1991 from 9-3 : 30 . There will be ten speakers . Urged the Planning Board members to attend. OLD BUSINESS Town Clean-Up Mr. Mason stated that originally tipping fees were to be charged; 1 Mr. Meeker was unhappy with that so returned to County Board and waived the fees . Also wanted to do this in March, but have now decided that would not be a good time. The Town will decide if they can do anything about a Clean-Up. Planning Board Appointments The Board was questioned if they were going to honor the advertised deadline for applications . Three applications were 5 1 Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Board Meeting November 12 , 1991 received; Ingrid Potenza, Bruce Fellows, Krys Cail . The Board decided to accept these three applications [everyone was interviewed] . .. The Board then rated the seven applicants interviewed. Two terms were open. . . a one year term and a four year term. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston to appoint Dan Smith to a four year term on the Town of Ulysses Planning Board • expiring December 1996. Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby to appoint John •- Czamanske to a one year term on the Town of Ulysses Planning Board expiring December 1992 . Mr . Hogan Nay Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Nay Mrs . Duddleston Nay Mr. Weatherby Aye Defeated. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby 'to appoint Krys Cail to a one year term on the Town of Ulysses Planning Board expiring December 1992 . 1 Mr . Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Nay Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Mainstay Investment Plan Mr. Hogan read a letter from Scott Hurlbut regarding the employees investment plan [see in Mainstay File/Town Clerk's Office] . Water Proiect Mr. Hogan stated that he spoke with Gail Zabawski about attending tonight 's meeting . Mrs . Zabawski was unable to attend. Auble Prolect Mr. Hogan and the Board discussed Attorney Guy Krough' s letter asking for a reconsideration of Mr. Auble's request to rezone and Town Attorney Wilson' s opinions concerning reconsidering the request . Mrs . Kahn asked what a PUD involved and Mr. Hogan explained. Mr. Curtis asked why the PUD couldn' t come with several buildings and Mr . Hogan stated that use has to be spelled out . Discussion ensued. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following: dM ` *'t . Town of Ulysses 3 . Regular Board Meeting November 12 , 1991 . RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses reconsider their vote of October 1, 1991 to rezone property 11-2- • 7 . 1 and their recommendation that Mr . Auble apply for a PUD when he has a project . Mrs . Stover asked if the Board has any time constraints and Mr . • Hogan said there are none. Discussion ensued regarding various options . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye • Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted 7VEW BUSINESS •. . Aloha House Water Rate Tabled Doq License Local Fee As previously discussed at a budget meeting, issue of increasing dog license local fee from $5 . to $7 . was discussed. Mr. Hogan introduced the purposed Local Law # 1 for 1991 and . schedule a Public Hearing for December 10 , 1991 at 7 : 30 p.m. , •, prior to the Regular Board Meeting: BE IT ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF ULYSSES AS FOLLOWS: Section #1 . Purpose: The purpose of this law is to amend Local Law No. 1 for 1979 relative to dog license fees to be charged by the Town. Section #2 . Section 10 of Local Law No. 1 for 1979 is hereby amended to read as follows: Section 10 . License and Impoundment fees . For licenses issued on or after the effective date of this law, the . following fees shall be charges : $9. 50 for each spayed or neutered dog and $14 . 50 for each unspayed or unneutered dog [$2 .00 increase in local fee] . Mrs . Duddleston seconded the introduction of this purposed law. • Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted PUD Legal Ads Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston to charge the cost of publishing the legal ad for a PUD, upon approval , back to the applicant . Mr. Hogan Aye . Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Board Meeting November 12 , 1991 Adopted The Fire Department contract was discussed. Mrs. Duddleston suggested a letter be sent to the Village stating to them a • figure for the fire budget that we can live with. The Board discussed this subject with Mr. Meskill , Village Trustee, Mr. • Weatherby moved, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston that the Town of Ulysses pay $56, 678 . to the Village Fire Department budget which is the same amount as this year. Mr . Hogan Nay Mr. Reitz Nay Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted The next budget meeting will be Tuesday, November 19, 1991 at 7 : 00PM. There will be a Village meeting on November 14, 1991 . REPORTS Town Clerk - Mrs . Georgia reported that for the month of October $2 , 897 . 55 was collected of which $1325. 88 was turned over to the Supervisor. Mrs . Georgia asked the Board to consider raising the fee for a certified copy of a marriage certificate from $5. to $10 . Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston to increase the fee for a certified copy of a marriage license to $10 .00 . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye - Adopted Highway Superintendent - Mr. Meeker reported that they put seal coat on Curry Rd. and Rabbit Run Rd. Mixed gravel for shoulders . Hauled hot mix for Town of Ithaca, mowed ditches and cleaned, plowed and salted as needed. Correspondence - Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence received. Hearing no further business , Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 11: 20PM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk II • *74 TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING November 19, 1991 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby , Catherine Stover; Bookkeeper Jeanne Vanderbilt; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Purpose: Budget 1992 Supervisor Hogan called the Special Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 10PM. Mr . Hogan stated that after speaking to Highway Superintendent Meeker that the funds removed from DB5110 . 4 at an earlier budget meeting now be restored and bring that line item to $37 , 939. Brief discussion ensued and Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mrs . Duddleston to return $2 , 939. to DB5110 . 4 for a line item total of $37 , 939 . , seconded by Mr . Reitz . Mr . Hogan Aye • Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Nay Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr . Reitz addressed, the issue of Youth funding. Suggested that • monies be restored to those areas . Reimbursement from County, State was explained. Following extended discussion, Mr. Hogan moved that $500 . be taken from A7310 . 4 Summer Rec (reducing that to $3500 . ] and putting the $500 . in A7310 . 4 County Youth, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Nay Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs. Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr. Hogan stated that the figure under Fire Protection should be reduced. . . SF3410 . 4 should be $64, 682 . Hearing no further comments or changes, Mrs. Duddleston moved to adopt the budget for 1992, seconded by Mr . Hogan. Mr . Hogan asked if there were further comments and Mr. Reitz indicated that there will be major budget problems next year. Mrs . Stover said that she didn' t like the high percent increase but just didn' t know where to make further changes . Hearing no further comments Mr. Hogan asked the Board for the vote on the budget . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Nay Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted Discussion ensued regarding the department heads being made responsible for their own spending and keeping abreast of expenditures . Mrs . Vanderbilt will give a budget stat to each department head. Several Board members also felt that work should start early in the year regarding exploring areas in the budget that might need to be adjusted for next year. • 00 Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting/Budget November 19, 1991 • The Board decided to meet at 7 :00PM on Tuesday, December 3 , 1991 to work on the Personnel Policy and the Auble request . Hearing no further business , Mrs . Stover moved to adjourn, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston. Unanimously approved, the meeting was adjourned at 9:00PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount, Deputy Clerk 1 1 o. " 1'1 * • A. TOWN OF ULYSSES • ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS DECEMBER 2, 1991 PRESENT: Chairman Gall Zabawsky; Board Members Ken Christianson, James Hickey, Carl Mann and George Tselekis; Zoning Officer Alex Rachun; Secretary Rita Brown. OTHERS PRESENT: Edward & Arlene Snyder , Tom Reitz , Jim Seafuse . • Chairman Gail Zabawsky called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. The first hearing was for a request by Edward Snyder who had applied for a variance under Article II , Sec . 8 of the Zoning Ordinance. He was denied by the Zoning Officer under Article IV, Sec . 1 .h of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that a commercial greenhouse or nursery is allowable in a residential district only with a special permit from the Board of Zoning Appeals. The Snyder's would like to tear down two existing • greenhouses, replace those with two new ones and move the headhouse to a different . place. Mr. Christianson asked what a headhouse was. Mr. Snyder explained that a headhouse is central staging area for materials in or plants out, place for transplanting, mixing of fertilizers, material storage, etc. Mr. Hickey asked if they were establishing a mini Agway. Mr. Snyder indicated that he didn' t know what his longterm plans were , it would depend on what the public wants. That is why they are expanding now. Mr. Hickey explained that we are only interested in the project put before us, not the longterm plans. Mr. Snyder explained " that if Agway is being plant sales and retail sales of greenhouse paraphernalia, then I would say yes. But my emphasis is on plants, not tools." Alex Rachun indicated that there . were no opposing neighbors. Tom Reitz was there in support of Snyder's request. • Mr . Tselekis asked what the square footage was of the new construction as compared to the greenhouses that are currently there. Mr. Snyder stated that the existing • greenhouses were 24' x 48' ; the new greenhouses would be 28' x 48' (4 ft . wider) . Having no further questions by the Board, Mr. Hickey made the following motion: 4. WHEREAS: the flow of customers presented to the Board in • evidence tonight establishes a need for the use that . this particular individual wishes to put the .property . to, and WHEREAS: the proposed use would contribute to the convenience • and prosperity of the community and that will provide additional materials and products of the type that he • offers and will offer, and WHEREAS: there is no evidence at all that neighboring persons and property would be adversely affected in any event , BE IT RESOLVED: that the Board grant the special permit , the applicant complying with the other laws of the Town in so far as building codes and area requirements such as • defined. The motion was seconded by Carl Mann. Ms. Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: Mr. Christianson aye Mr . Mann aye Mr . Tselekis aye Mr. Hickey aye Ms. Zabawsky aye Special permit approved. . At 7:45 p.m. the Board began the second hearing requested by Jim and Sandy Seafuse , of the Shur—Save Grocery Store . They were denied by the Zoning Officer under Article VIII , Sec , 1 .g of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that no free standing sign shall exceed fifteen feet In height including support , They are requesting to put up a sign that is twenty feet in height above grade level , Jim Seafuse explained ' that he is putting gasoline In at the store and they are asking for a sign out at the road. The sign is almost Identical to what we did the variance on in • Jacksonville . It would be a logo type sign with a logo at the top, pricing below, They are not sure of the exact location that the sign will be placed yet , but they think the sign will be straight out from where the gasoline is, somewhat in the low spot . Because of the grade , it is questionable that the sign will be any higher than the Shur-Save sign. When they are actually placing the sign, they will make ' sure that they are not interferring with the line of sight. It will be back off the road as far as the Shur-Save sign. He also explained that the reason the sign is 20 ft . is that it is the standard sized sign that the company provides. If you don' t get the standard one, you have to go to a custom-built sign which is very expensive . Alex Rachun explained that the sign was under the requirements for areal the height is not correct. Tom Reitz asked if you wanted to put any other business, pharmacy, restaurant, would other signs be allowed? Alex Rachun commented that if you put in another store or two you would have to consider it as a shopping center at which point a retail business in a shopping center would be allowed one sign (sixteen • square ft. ) , whereas a retail business not In a shopping center would be allowed two signs to be considerably larger (160 square ft . ) for each business. A gasoline • station, being a separate business, would be allowed two signs, 32 square ft . per • sign . Mr . Hickey stated that in preface t1 the motion that the Board has considered at • least three applications ( in his tenure) very similar to those before us at this time, all of which involved signs which in some manner deviated from the requirements even though the signs themselves were legitimate uses. Alex Rachun stated that what the sign is to be attached to is what is out of conformance, the sign itself would be considered legal . With that factor sited, the following motion was made : WHEREAS: the variation is not substantial in relation to the requirement, WHEREAS: there would be no effect on any governmental facilities by virtue of construction of the sign, WHEREAS: there would not be a substantial change produced In the character in the neighborhood due to the fact that it is III already commercial use on the proposed use , that is the gas pumps are already in progress, WHEREAS: there would not be a detriment to any adjoining properties, WHEREAS: the difficulty cannot be obviated by any other feasible • method for the applicant pursued, in view of the fact • that it is a standard sign deviation from which would compel him to special order a sign at considerably greater expense, BE IT RESOLVED that the Interests of Justice dictate that this variance be granted. It will be assumed in this motion that the sign will be in terms of line of site roughly equivalent to the existing Shur-Save sign , so as to prevent traffic blockage . Motion seconded by Mr. Christianson. Ms. Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: Mr. Christianson aye Mr . Mann aye Mr . Hickey aye Mr . Tselekis aye Ms. Zabawsky aye Variance approved. • Tom Reitz reminded the Zoning Board of Appeals that one of the board's members term • expires at the end of this year . The Town Board would welcome any recommendations of any candidates and would be appreciative if this board has any recommendations for Chairperson for 1992 as the Town Board appoints the Chairperson. . Being no further business, Ms. Zabawsky moved to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Mr . Tselekis. Meeting adjourned at 8:10 p .m. • r, salmi TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING December 3 , 1991 Present : Supervisor William Hogan, Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Bldg./Zoning Officer Alex Rachun, Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Mr . Hogan called the Special Town Board Meeting to order at • 7 :00PM. The purpose of the meeting is to finish up reviewing the proposed Personnel Policy. According to minutes from the last personnel policy meeting in June, had covered most of page 4 . Mrs . Mount stated that the sixth paragraph. . .Mrs . Duddleston suggested at the last meeting to move this to the end of the policy with the date of adoption. Mrs . Duddleston concurred, as • did the rest of the Board. Date of adoption was discussed. . .Mr. Hogan said that he would like to send a completed copy to Attorney Wilson for review and also to Tompkins County Personnel . Mrs . Vanderbilt also requested to see this before adoption, as did Mr. Meeker. Holidays were discussed. Currently follow County holidays . Mr. Hogan suggested a concept of Floating Holidays , using perhaps two of the lesser holidays now given. . . to be used at the employees discretion. Mr. Hogan said he would go along with this concept if the employees are interested. Mr. Reitz suggested proposing it to the employees [and would go so far as to have three, one being Martin Luster Kings b'day] . Mrs.. Duddleston and Mrs . • Stover said they had no objections . Mr. Hogan said they could be used given a reasonable amount of notice. Mrs . Mount suggested • that if two floating holidays are decided upon, then two holidays • now stated should be deleted and floating holidays listed. On page 5. . .Probationar.y Term. . .discussion had ensued at earlier meetings concerning rewriting this item. Mr. Hogan suggested the following: All new Town of Ulysses employees must complete a probationary period of from eight to twenty-six weeks before becoming permanent Town employees . Membership in the New York State Retirement System and Town of Ulysses Health Insurance Plan is available during the probationary period. The Department Head will conduct a performance evaluation within a period of eight weeks and prior to the end of the probationary period to determine whether to grant permanent employment status, extend the employee's probationary period, or terminate his or her =, employment with the Town. Page 6. . . Smoking Policy. . . Smoking is prohibited in the Town building with the exception of a designated area with the = approval of personnel who use that area. After section on Job Descriptions add two new items : Driving Record. . .A driver's license is required for some positions with the Town of Ulysses and is so stated in the applicable job description. When a driver' s license is a requirement of a position, it is mandatory that there be a. clean driving record with no history of any infraction relating to alcoholic beverage - or drug consumption, reckless driving or repeated moving violations . If an employee holding a position with the Town requiring a driver ' s license has such license suspended or revoked for any reason, he or she is subject to immediate termination and that this termination may be enforced whether or not a conditional driver's license has been granted. ..r''I .. ; ,.T.;::;• .I r. .ub ..I . ,q . ...'t. rt • :. n..' ; ,' 1:.• t 11. r. . ' , Town of Ulysses Special Board Meeting December 3 , 1991 Right To Amend. . . The foregoing is not intended to, and does not , create a contractual responsibility on the part of the Town. • This document is merely a statement of policies as they exist at present . The policies set forth in this manual may be changed at any time in any respect by the Town Board and no employee shall 4. have any rights or claims of any nature against the Town if the Town Board should elect to change any of said policies . The Board discussed the need for job descriptions and whether they should he attached to the personnel policy or not . Board decided that they could be attached for convenience sake. Was also decided that affirmative action and other pertinent statements can be posted on the bulletin board. The following brief statement will be added under Employee Handbook at the end of the existing statement . . .The Town of Ulysses is an affirmative action, equal employment opportunity and fair practice employee. Discussion ensued concerning accrual of benefits by the bookkeeper. . .minutes of July 9 , 1991 were referred to. The Board finished the revisions on the personnel policy . Mr . • Hogan asked the Board to read the letter received by George Schlecht regarding William Auble' s request to rezone property in Ulysses . Mr . Hogan said we should really discuss this to see where we all stand on it before we get involved in another big round of expensive negotiations , legal fees , public hearings , etc . Decide whether we will fish or cut bait . . .do we really want -- to do this or not? Mr. Reitz felt that statement had been made by the unanimous vote to bring this issue back on the floor . Think we all recognize that, the tax base needs to be improved. . . these are some new ideas here. . . the approval by the Town Board of the plan is a key ingredient . . . I don' t consider this conditional zoning; it ' s a business zone that we can apply conditions . . . think it ' s great. Mr. Hogan agreed, think it 's a step forward; if everyone else agrees, fine, if they don' t . . .have to decide what we are going to do before we spend a lot more money. Mr. Reitz said that if we are going to do something would be nice to get it done before the end of the year . Mrs . Stover and Mrs . Duddleston felt the Board should go forward. Mr . Hogan said he will advise Town Attorney Wilson to attend the Regular Board meeting on Tuesday, December 10 to discuss the legalities . Mrs . Mount will fax George Schlecht ' s letter to -• Attorney Wilson tomorrow. Mr . Rachun said he would like to see a new zone. . . get away from conditional zoning . As section 263 of Town Law states . . . "regulations shall be made in accordance with a comprehensive plan and designed to lessen congestion in the streets , etc. " . . .basically they are saying when we change zoning, it is suppose to come from within. Think we can document that enough now . YOu have a letter stating , from last year, the reasons why you thought this was a good plan. You have a Master Plan Committee that seem to be going in that direction. Mrs . Stover said the Master Plan Committee would like to meet with the Town Board. Mr. Rachun continued. . . can continue as before, set a public hearing date, vote on it . Told George there is still time before the end of the year. Make a separate zone. . . 81 , B2, whatever. He has to have everything in line before the meeting on December 10 , Mr. Reitz asked if they are prepared at this time to submit a development plan. . .Mr . Rachun said he told George there is no way it can be done without it . They are going to use what they ,,9 Town of Ulysses I Special Board Meeting December 3, 1991 have. Mr . Reitz asked what the zone would be called. Mr . Rachun said you can say that the business zone we have established in the Town of Ulysses is now to be called Si, and this zone is to be called 82 . Mrs . Stover asked if this will be a zoning ordinance change and does it have to be in place before we can do anything? Mr. Rachun said no matter what happens up there, it will be a change in our local law. That will give him the flexibility he is looking for without restricting him to a PUD. They can' t go out and solicit if there isn' t anything to show. Hearing no further business , Mrs . Duddleston moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Unanimously approved, the meeting was adjourned at 9 : 20PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount Deputy Clerk • 1 TOWN OF ULYSSES PUBLIC HEARING December 10, 1991 • Present: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , `'`. Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby; Town Attorney Bruce Wilson; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. PURPOSE: To hear public comment on amending Local Law #1. Mr. Hogan opened the public hearing at 7 : 40PM. • _. ' Mrs . Georgia read the following legal ad: Please Take Notice, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses will hold a Public Hearing on Tuesday, December 10th, 1991 at 7 : 30PM in the Town Hall , 10 Elm Street , Trumansburg, NY. PURPOSE: to hear Public comments on Local Law #1 for 1991. A local Law amending Local Law #1 for 1979, amending local dog fees to $7 .00 per dog. By Order of 1. the Town Board Marsha L. Georgia, Ulysses Town Clerk. Mr. Hogan asked for public comment. Hearing no comments, Mr. Hogan asked the Board if they had comments . Hearing no comments , Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston. Unanimously approved, the public hearing was closed at 7 : 42PM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm 1 I TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING • December 10 , 1991 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston; Town Attorney Bruce Wilson. Mr. Hogan called the Special Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 6:50PM. The purpose: to discuss the Auble rezoning request. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Duddleston, to adjourn to an Executive Session in order to discuss the possibility of litigation. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm = •. • TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING December 10 , 1991 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston, Robert Weatherby; Town Attorney Bruce Wilson; Zoning/Building Alex Rachun; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. • Others Present : George Schlecht , Guy Krogh, William Auble, Lisa & Glenn Chase, Jerry Perkins , Don Smith & Phil Colvin '& others representing the American Legion, Ruth Kahn, Chris Gunn, Scott Hurlbut , Richard Garner, Laura & Jim Scott ,Del Borden. • Mr. Hogan called the Regular Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 8 : 00PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes as follows : Special Board Meeting of November 7 , 1991; Regular Town Board Meeting of November 12 , 1991 and Special Board Meeting of November 19 , 1991 . Moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mr. Reitz , unanimously • approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department • Absent • Report : Representative James Mason Mr. Mason said that the County had passed the 1992 budget . It reflects close to a 15% increase in property taxes; that is after we cut approximately three million out of the local share of various department spending. Departments were asked to reduce the budget by two million dollars and when they were done the budget committee went back through and cut another million. The highway department is getting hit hard which means some roads won' t be worked on this year, equipment that won' t be purchased and also means that we won' t be filling about ten to twenty • positions that will come open through attrition. Somewhat disappointed with the budget . . .went into that meeting • with what we thought was an agreement with the budget committee that they were going to seek a 1% increase in sales tax revenue and off-set the property tax with revenues from the sales tax . • If that had transpired property tax increase in 1992 would have been held to about 5 . 3% and in 1993 we would have seen a 43% decrease in property taxes and at the same time we would have restored the County ' s general fund [which at this point is zero] , • and would have been able to set some aside in anticipation of some further cuts on the part of the State during the next year . That was all set aside when Mayor Ben Nichols of the City of Ithaca and Shirley Rathensburger , Supervisor of the Town of Ithaca came in and said they had every intention of going to Albany and blocking the increase in sales tax appropriations if they were not a part of the pie. . . that revenues be diverted to the City and Town of Ithaca. Since all it takes is an objection on the part of a municipality to stall the legislation, we had no choice at that time but to revert back to the 15% property tax and try to get the budget in place. We are in the same boat as some of our neighbors . Cayuga County has already authorized an 8% sales tax. Cortland County is doing ' v �' •'i ... .c. .q ' • Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board December 10 , 1991 • the same. Think you are going to see it across the up-State areas . In my mind it is the lesser of two evils . You can watch the property tax escalate as a result of what is happening in Albany or try to spread some of that around and include the non- '. property owners with a sales tax . The local share of a 94 million budget for 1992 will be a little less than 15 million. The sales tax increase alone would have generated 8 million . • Mr . Hogan asked if the County was planning on going ahead with a • request for an increase in sales tax? Mr . Mason said he is setting up a task force , five members of the Board, who are going to be meeting between now and the 21st of January to meet with the municipalities and businesses , to come back to the Board with • • a recommendation if we should or shouldn ' t implement an increase in sales tax , and if we do, how should it be shared with the other municipalities . The County ' s intent was originally to retain all of the increase generated by the sales tax because it felt the County had been hit harder than any of the other municipalities . • What happens when there is an excess in sales tax revenues , the Town gets a greater credit towards Town taxes . CLAIMS Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #422-457 for a total of $7 , 930 . 49 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye • Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye • Mr . Weatherby Aye • Approved. SUPERVISOR' S FINANCIAL REPORT Mr . Hogan read the report . Repurchase agreement expired so have transferred money to Super Savings Account . Will meet on December 30 , 1991 at 7 : 00PM to make year end adjustments in the budget . HEARING OF DELEGATIONS & INDIVIDUALS Don Smith and Phil Colvin, representing the American Legion, presented a request for a PUD on a lot purchased from Del Borden, tax #11-4-10 . 5, located on RT 227 . Mr . Hogan said the Board will look over what is being submitted, check to see if everything is complete and will then officially accept it and turn it over to • Mr . Rachun. OLD BUSINESS Mainstay Investment Plan - Scott Hurlbut said he notified a third-party administrator, for a 457 Plan, which is what it will be renamed . Basically it will all be done by December 31 , 1991 , just a matter of paperwork . . . changing the name. Mr. Hogan said then the employees who suspended their payroll deductions can be advised they can reinstate them on January 1 . Mr . Reitz asked about the cost of the third-party administrator . Mr . Hurlbut said there is a cost , but he negotiated with him for the first year cost; after that we' ll have to negotiate [the third-party administrator and the employees and/or Town] . Mr . Hogan asked how much of a cost is being talked about and Mr . Hurlbut said he has no idea . Mr . Hogan asked if he could guess and Mr . Hurlbut said under $500 . 00 a year . • • A Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board December 10 , 1991 • Auble Rezoning Request - Mr. Hogan stated that at our last Regular Board Meeting we voted to reconsider William Auble's request to rezone the area north of the Village. Have talked with the Town Attorney, there are several different options we • have . . , can vote to rezone, can vote not to rezone, can create a new business district , can consider conditional zoning on that site . . . . as I understand it the conditions particular to that site would then become part of a deed for the property so anyone who would develop that property would have to conform to the specifications in the deed, and the other alternative is a Planned Unit Development [PUD] . We discussed these at length and what we need to decide tonight is which way we want to go. The Board has had a chance to consider this and asked their opinions . Feels personally that rezoning is a good idea if we had Site Plan Review. . . since that was defeated, guess if there were conditions we could put on a particular rezoning of that area to protect the neighbors , etc . then think I would be in favor of that type of thing . The question is which one of these tools to use. Asked for Mr. Rachun' s opinion . • Mr . Rachun said the options in hand in terms of looking at this again through rezoning, PUD, or conditional zoning. . . rezoning would probably take more time however the process may end up being cleaner, would enable the Town to come up with an idea of what you would like to see in a new business zone . . .our business zone is fairly broad and poorly defined, and apply it to this property up here and maybe a few other parcels that may be applicable . Once that 's done the Town would have to be the initiator of the SEQR process and would have to come up with ideas or comprehensive plan as to how to apply this zoning, and once it is in place then a developer would come in and deal directly with the Building Inspector and Zoning Officer in terms of getting a building permit . There would be no other discretionary action taken by the Town Board, no follow through with SEQR . On a PUD this process would be a bit more difficult . We are suppose to look at several things in our zoning ordinance, and if we don' t know what is going to happen there, it is unfair • to ask a developer to come up with a plan set in concr.ete. . . this may not be as easy a process as rezoning . Mr . Hogan asked if a developer want to develop a property and say they have a concept plan. . .my 20 year concept plan is to build X number of buildings , not to exceed X number of square feet , not to be over X stories high, etc. , etc. , would that type of an arrangement fit the guidelines of our current PUD section of zoning? Mr. Rachun said that would be workable. . .my question would be how would this be better than rezoning? It would be doing a similar thing with a rezoning process and it may be cleaner that way . Have to look at certain things and if the developer can provide enough information for us to look at these things , then Yes , it can be workable. The developer would be responsible for the SEQR process in a PUD and would have to start all over again . • Mr. Hogan said our Master Plan Committee is working on what should happen in the Town in the next few years , and they are going to look at different areas of the Town and give recommendations . This particular area in question we have been discussing for a couple of years . Maybe we should get that resolved and then go on to the other sections of Town. On this issue we have already spent more money than we wanted to as has the owner of the property. Would like to get this resolved the cheapest way possible, most expeditious way without having to start all over again . Mr . Rachun said he can' t answer that for Mr . Hogan . Think a Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board December 10 , 1991 Planned Unit Development would take as much time . Conditional zoning might be the quickest way to go. . . just not familiar enough with it and would defer to Bruce . Mr . Wilson said the conditional zoning would be the quickest , the problem is that you would have to iron out those conditions and the quick way depends on what you are doing and what the conditions are; the same thing with a PUD, you have to iron out what they are . Mr . Hogan said he doesn' t mean to say quick , . . but what is going to be the least expensive, the path of least resistance to the Town and the tax payers . Mr . William Auble said he is willing to give the Town a Site Plan • Review. That should provide regulations on the development ; willing to give all that information to the Board . . . that should answer every question that anybody has . Mr . Hogan said that the last time the Board voted the resolution read that we were going to deny the petition for rezoning but that we suggested that you come back to the Town with a PUD. • There are a lot of differing opinions as to what happens with a PUD. It would be a burden on the Town and the developer . If a • PUD can be developed on the basis of concept , that X number of buildings not to exceed a certain amount of square footage, etc. , • and a PUD is similar to Site Plan Review, if that could be worked • out maybe that 's the avenue to follow. • Mr . Krogh stated that the least expensive alternative is to vote in a business district , no additional public hearing is required. With any of the other options you will have numerous public hearings ; the Planning Board will become involved. Have discussed the PUD process at length with Mr . Auble and even Site Plan Review, think the biggest problem you face with those two situations . . . if you are dealing with a one-shot use, it is relatively clear cut , but the Site Plan Review process that was proposed, and think why people got upset , same problem with the development district process , that someone who is going in and • trying to do a relatively simple project can become tied up in public hearings and there is no end to it. That is why Mr . Auble is adamantly against the PUD. . . look at the trouble he has had • with one Board, now he has to go through two. If one tenant drops out and he gets a new one, you are back into public hearings . Mr . Reitz said that is the problem we are all having . . . the concept that you would have to do that . That is what all the other PUD' s in the Town have been. . . site specific . You can also interpret our zoning laws as not being so specific, in fact we have another one before the Board not that is generalized, like Bill wants to do and it is going through the review process . Mr . Krogh said perhaps his opinion that he will be involved in a large amount of time and public hearings is based on personal experience, can' t say, that is the essence of the problem. The conditional zone doesn' t present that problem. Just as you have • concerns about what are going to be your costs , the developer naturally has concerns about his costs . Just tonight he has an - engineer and an attorney and if we go through a whole other series of public hearings; and quite frankly based on our prior - experience. . . he won' t do it . There's not just how many keys can fit the lock, do you want to open the door , and it ' s going to take two people to do it ; the Board has to make a decision and the developer has to decide if he can live with that decision or not . Mr . Schlecht stated that he spoke with Mr . Rachun and they discussed that while the PUD didn ' t fit this , your PUD talks about other uses and mixed uses which wasn ' t what Mr . Auble had in mind; seemed like the best way to go a year ago was PUD. We were amenable to that . Now here we are with this extraordinary • Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board 4 December 10 , 1991 turn of events , being asked now to go back to the PUD. . . Mr . Hogan said from my standpoint , I think developing that particular area is a good idea, but also feel I have a responsibility to the neighbors to make sure there are some conditions that have to be followed for developing that area. Since we don' t have Site Plan Review, I 'm not in a position to say let 's go ahead and rezone it and let whoever owns the land do whatever they want . . . Mr . Schlecht said that is not what he suggested. . . suggested • instituting a Site Plan Review process . Mr. Reitz said you are • talking about conditional zoning. Mr . Schlecht said yes . Mr . Hogan said the Board talked with the Attorney and found out what would happen if they set 'conditions ' similar to some of the conditions in Site Plan Review on that particular parcel . That would constitute conditional zoning which would require another public hearing and another go at it . Regardless of what we do, other than go ahead an rezone it, it is going to involve another whole series of processes . That would probably involve another public hearing and another vote. If we go back and rezone it that will start SEQR again; if we do a PUD that would start SEQR again, and so on. Mr . Rachun said with conditional zoning the SEQR document could probably stay intact the way it is, with a change of zoning the Town Board takes it upon themselves to change the zoning, then the SEQR process is within the Town. PUD the SEQR process is • back to you. • Mr . Schlecht said he isn' t endorsing either of the last two alternatives, we have been discussing conditional zoning, I 'm saying the conditions will be, at my suggestion, subject to your • input . My suggestion is that the condition is we have to present a development plan for this Board's approval . After that development plan is approved it is the Zoning Officers function. Mr . Hogan asked Attorney Wilson to run through his explanation of conditional zoning one more time . . . and what has to happen. Mr. Wilson said conditional zoning is a recent phenomena. The • Board can rezone, at the request of the petitioner and set certain conditions on it . Those conditions would have to be spelled out simultaneously with the rezoning rather than what I perceive is being said, at a later time . And then those conditions become a restriction on the land; they file a restrictive covenant , as you would on a sub-division, restricting how that property can be used and the Town Board and/or developer working together or alone would agree on those conditions in advance of the rezoning. Mr. Hogan asked if the restrictive covenant is attached to the deed? Mr. Wilson said it is filed at the County Clerk 's office -- and is cross referenced against the deed. Jerry Perkins asked if they have applied for a business district . . .Mr . Hogan said that is correct . Mr. Perkins said this is from 1978 [rules and regulations] . . . sounds like the rules are being changed in the middle of the game. That ' s been law since 1978 so why put restrictions on these people , or anyone else, because they want to do something. If you have this zoning in place since 1978 , and it isn' t good, throw it in the garbage can. . .why have it if you aren' t going to use it . Think you should give that consideration. . . that is what they have asked for and it ' s stated in the regulations . 4.4/ Town of Ulysses 6 • Regular Town Board December 10 , 1991. Chris Gunn said his principle concern is that the Town would get itself into a position of doing the SEQR. Concern all along with SEQR and this project has been to understand how you can do a SEQR on , twenty year development plan. • Mr . Wilson stated that SEQR for rezoning to create a new business district would be the function of the Town. A PUD would have the SEQR a requirement of the developer . Conditional zoning, which is the third option, has already gone through SEQR. Since it is more restrictive than the zoning that is in existence right now. Mr . Hogan stated that if we were to consider conditional zoning • what would the steps be? Mr . Wilson said the Board should set the conditions upon which you insist the developer comply with. The developer can accept or reject those, or the developer can make suggestions . In my opinion a new public hearing would be • required. Someone asked about the number of acres under consideration and the possibility of reintroducing Site Plan Review. Mr . Hogan said the request is for 23 acres to be rezoned. Concerning reinitiating Site Plan Review. . .vote of the Board was 4-1 against SPR, think that would be a long involved process . Think if the Board can agree upon a way to go maybe can work out, a set of conditions for the development of the particular area • which would be favorable to everyone concerned. Mt . Hogan asked the pleasure of the Board. Mr . Reitz said it seems that if we are talking about conditional zoning, I need an idea of what conditions we can place . . . think it boils down to primary points . . .Mr. Auble is not willing to come back to us with a PUD, we cannot force him to do that . If he refuses to do that then we go back to the original rejection and drop the whole issue or else rezone it , create a new business district , or make it conditional zoning . Maybe a couple of Board members can sit down with Mr. Auble's people and see what kind of conditions we can negotiate, at least in concept . Mr . Weatherby suggested that it include Planning Board in additional to Town Board. Mr . Hogan to Mr . Reitz . . . I don 't think the conditions set forth for rezoning should be conditions that Mr . Auble wants , think they should be conditions that the Town wants . If we are going to do conditional zoning that is what we should be doing. Mr . Weatherby agreed. Mrs . Duddleston felt a • concept plan is needed. Mr . Hogan said some of the conditions will be extrapolated from SPR. If that is the Board' s pleasure, can set up a meeting. Mr . Hogan said we will have to have a public hearing, vote [will need a super majority] , so if we aren' t going to have a super majority, with a new Board member coming on, let 's not go through this whole process again. Mr . Reitz said until we know what the conditions are can' t very well say how it will go. . . so let 's meet , define those conditions and make a plan of action. Discussion took place concerning SEQR and the County's letter stating a negative declaration. Mr . Schlecht stated that he would like to talk with the County and get it restated. Mr . Hogan asked if everyone agreed that we want to hold a meeting . . .Mrs . Stover said as soon as possible . Mr . Hogan said it is to discuss what we want to do as far as conditions . Set a meeting date for Monday, December 16 , 1991 at 7 : 00PM. Mr . Hogan asked if the Planning Board should be involved; do we want to do this ourselves and then submit our suggestions to the , y4� Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board i _, December 10 , 1991 +` Planning Board? Mr . Rachun said the Town Board was the lead agency on SEQR and would suggest the first meeting be just the Town Board . Mr . Krogh asked if this meeting was to review, at a public meeting, a list of conditions which are already generated or is it to generate those conditions? Mr . Hogan said they will take any information available and try to come up with a reasonable list . Mr. Hogan said they would consider anyone 's suggestions . Water Project • • Tabled; no representative present . Alpha House Water Rate • • A Tabled Dog License Fees Mr. Hogan indicated that a public hearing was held on December 10 , 1991 at 7 : 30PM. At least five day notice of the hearing was • made by publication in the Trumansburg FreePress on November 27, 1991 , and the Town Board members were proposed Local Law #1 prior to the public hearing. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion for adoption of the following Local Law #1 for 1991 amending Local Law #1 for 1979, moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mr. Weatherby: • BE IT ENACTED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF ULYSSES AS FOLLOWS: Section #1 . Purpose: The purpose of this law is to amend Local Law No. 1 for 1979 relative to dog license fees to be charged by the Town. Section #2 . Section 10 of Local Law No. 1 for 1979 is hereby • amended to read as follows : Section 10 . License and Impoundment fees . For licenses issued on or after the effective date of this law, the following fees shall be charged: $9 . 50 for each spayed or neutered dog and $14 . 50 for each unspayed or unneutered dog . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. NEW BUSINESS Lighting at ShurSave Grocery Mr. Hogan said he spoke with Jim Seafuse about the lighting at the shursave. He was wondering what happened to that project . Mr . Meeker said the State decided they didn' t want anything to do with it , didn' t feel it was a great deal to have lighting up there. If the Town decided they wanted to pay for it , then they would put it up. Mr . Hogan said Mr . Seafuse indicated that he would be willing to pay for the lighting by his store. Asked if he meant initial cost plus annual cost . Mr. Seafuse didn' t realize there was an -- initial cost . Mr. Hogan will speak to Mr. Seafuse; if he is willing to pay all the cost , let him go to it . . . work it out with our Attorney. Mr . Meeker said the Town doesn' t have anything to do with it . . . let Mr. Seafuse deal directly with State DOT. • i: •• Town of Ulysses 8 Regular Town Board December 10 , 1991 Joint Review/Master Plan Committee Mr. Hogan talked with a couple of people on the Master Plan Committee and they have become a little apprehensive with what • has happened in the last few months as far as the Town Board is • • concerned with the Site Plan Review and other things . They would • like to have a review of where they are going and what the Town Board thinks of what they are doing. Would like to meet sometime after the first of the year and update what they are doing . They don' t want to do a lot of work and then have it rejected. Will meet Wednesday, January 8 , 1992 at 7 : 30PM. Will verify this with the Master Plan Committee. • Mr . Hogan mentioned that Mr. Reitz had made a good suggestion at one of our recent meetings ; that we consider meeting on a different night other than Tuesday. Would enable the FreePress to cover our meetings for publication that same week; would be • good for public notices , etc . Mr . Reitz said that we have had thirty-five meetings this year alone, and would suggest two meetings a month. . . the first and third Mondays of each month. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to change the regular monthly meetings of the Ulysses Town Board to the first Monday of the • month, and changing the starting time to 7 : 30PM. Moved by Mrs . Stover , seconded by Mr . Reitz . The next Regular Town Board meeting will be January 6, 1992 at 7 : 30PM. • Mr . Hogan suggested that the Board members arrive about 7 :00PM so they can review the vouchers prior to the meeting starting . • Mr. Hogan Aye • Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye • Mrs . Duddleston Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted. REPORTS • Town Clerk - Mrs . Georgia reported that for the month of November • • $2 , 897 . 50 was collected of which $1, 233 . 33 was turned over to the Supervisor . Reported on a records retention seminar that she and Christine Springer attended. • Highway Superintendent - Mr. Meeker reported plowing and salting as needed. Shoulders on Rabbit Run and Curry Roads . Working on trucks to ready them for inspection. • • Mr. Hogan stated that a meeting will be held on December 30, 1991 •• and will be talking about the Auditors Report ; asked Mr . Meeker to attend. Zoning/Building Inspector - Mr. Rachun reported that heard two ZBA requests . Seven permits and one start . Read auditor ' s • report and being taken to task for not itemizing mileage . Feel it is a hardship to log mileage . Do have a log of inspections done and what day and would be happy to submit that on a monthly basis . Also reported that had toured the old County Home with Bill Stewart and Ben Curtis . Is in very poor condition, no fire protection. Board Members - Mr . Reitz announced a Joint Youth Meeting on December 17 , 1991 . Mrs . Stover and Mr . Reitz reported attending • • a meeting of the Fire Department concerning their property on Curry Road . Mr . Reitz and Mrs . Stover attended a meeting on Open Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Town Board December 10 , 1991 Space. Corresnondepce - Mr . Hogan received the following correspondence: Census/on file in Clerk's office, Tompkins County Labor, James Hickey re appointment 1/1/92 , TC Youth, Summery of minutes/TC Planning Board, ACC, Economic Advisory Board, TC Board of Reps, TC Dept . of Public Works , David Tyler re being reappointed to Planning Board. Discussion ensued regarding people whose terms on a board are expiring and if policy was to reappoint or to advertise and interview new candidates . Mr . Rachun said that policy was never established, the Board has done both and feels that if the person whose term is expiring has done a good job, then that person should be considered for another term. This can be established by speaking to the Chair of the particular board in question. Mr . Hogan felt the same . Also discussed setting a maximum number of terms to be served. Need to be consistant in how this situation is handled. Mr. Reitz felt that any position should be . advertised and interviewed for. . . if a person wishes to continue serving then that person should state that in a letter. The minutes will be looked at to determine how appointments have been handled in the past . The Personnel Policy [revised draft] has been retyped and distributed to all personnel for input/suggestions by December 30 , 1991 . One further addition, requested by Mr. Meeker. . . holiday pay consists of double time for hours worked. Hearing no further business Mrs . Duddleston moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Hogan. Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 11 : 00PM. ® Respectfully Submitted, Marsha L. Georgia pm 1 . • . . i r r' • f •l� 1'/ � .1; ti . ':1'e• �.l '1^� I. r .• TOWN OF ULYSSES 1 SPECIAL BOARD MEETING December 16 , 1991 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover , Robert Weatherby; Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . Others Present : George Schlect , Guy Krogh, Marion Boratenski , Ben Curtis , Don Smith, Ruth Kahn, Joe Scherer, Bill Auble, Dave Auble, Glenn Chase, Jerry Perkins , Steve Proctor, Greg Perrault , Barbara Page. Supervisor Hogan called the Special Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 10PM. Stated that the meeting tonight is to discuss the conditional zoning for the Auble property. Asked if everyone had read the lengthy document received from Thaler & Thaler. Perhaps go through this document item by item and take comments . Is everyone still convinced that conditional zoning is the way to go? Mr . Reitz : We have three options built into this and conditional zoning is certainly the strongest option at this time. One thing • we did not discuss at the previous meeting is my proposal for a business district #2, but perhaps part of that can be interjected into this conditional zoning portion. This conditional zoning that was presented us from Guy Krogh is pretty specific as far as on-sight operations but what goes in those operations is what I would like to introduce as part of my proposal from the 82 districts on top of this . This would be part of. the conditions but other parts of it too. . .he does not in any way define what is to go in there or not go in there and that is one of the concerns raised by the Village Trustees and the public at large. Mr. Hogan: He does indicate what is already spelled out in our zoning ordinance would apply. Mr. Reitz: that is the point . . .people have objections to 4 , that . . .wide open blank check. Those are the things that I had specified in my business' district #2 proposal . Mr. Hogan said I don' t expect that this is the only thing we are going to consider, this is a start , and let's take a look at it . Mr . Hogan: reading directly from the document sent by Guy Krogh. . . Item #1 - Architecture and Aesthetics . We believe the business district should be approved with certain aesthetic and architectural conditions including the following: **a. Architectural Style- All building facia and other architectural design features shall comport with the architectural flavor of the Town and nearby Village. Mr . Hogan: actually there are a variety of architectural designs, so that is a little on the vague side, but we' ll go on. **b. Maximum Height- No structure shall be built in excess of 40 feet tall , except that certain purely ornamental design features may be extended to a maximum of 45 feet . Mr. Hogan: asked 40 feet . . .what does our ordinance read? Mr . Reitz : according to what he could find, there doesn' t seem to be anything- as far as our primary buildings as far as height 111 restrictions . There is for accessory buildings . I had the same concerns that you are raising . . . and also on the next issue. . .not only for structure of 40 for the proposals but what can our fire department properly handle at this particular time. Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting December 16, 1991 Mr . Hogan: is sure the buildings on Main St . are over 40 ft . high. Mr . Reitz : that is a four story building. Can' t think of any myself . . .Alex? Mr . Rachun: some of the steeples would reach 40 ft . , but the main buildings down here are in the mid to low 30 's . Mr . Hogan: downtown? Are they three or four stories? Mr . Rachun: three. Mr . Hogan: they have high ceilings in them, probably 15 ft . Mr . Rachun: maybe not that high. . .would say they are around 35 ft . Mr . Reitz : think that fits back in to 1A, the architectural style should also be maintained with the general height of the buildings in the neighboring vicinity. Mr. Krogh: arrived at 40 ft . by measuring the height of the buildings downtown. That is how we ended up with that number. Mr . Auble: some of the existing buildings are 50 - 60 ft . tall . Mr . Hogan asked the Board their pleasure. . .do you like 40 ft . or should I put a question mark after it? What do you want to do? Mr . Weatherby: thought we could put check marks after questionable items and come back. • Mr. Hogan: most developments you see today, if you look at malls, are single story anyway, might be some second stories , so if you are talking 30 - 35 ft . would give you plenty of height . Mr. Auble: 35 ft . would be fine. • Mr . Krogh: if you want to vary it , that would be OK. Mr . Reitz : I put down 35 for excess and formal designs would be 40 ft . , I reduced them by 5 ft . , that is all . Mr. Hogan: asked if everybody concurred so far. No comments . **c. Bell Tower- The project , to enhance its architectural appeal , may , at the developer's option, have an extended peak or bell tower which shall not exceed 60 feet in height . Mr . Hogan: asked if they could get by with 50 ft .? • Mr. Auble : Yes , if that is what you want . . . it is strictly aesthetics . It was asked if there would be a bell in it? Mr . Auble: Yes . Mr. Hogan: 50 ft . is a long way in the air, the average residential ranch-style house is about 22-25 ft . , 50 ft . would be twice that high, OK? Mr. Reitz asked: George or Guy, to form the basis for these considerations , this was your design concept plan as what you are going from I guess , a bell tower in the center of that mall section? Mr . Krogh: roughly, Yes , this is all generated off the plan that has been reviewed. • 2. 13 Town of Ulysses 3 Special Board Meeting A December 16 , 1991 / Mr . Reitz : the concept plan. . . OK. • **Item #2 - Tree Lines and Shrubbery . The developer feels that the planting of trees , shrubs , and other plants helps preserve • the natural soils from erosion and enhances the sightliness of the project . Tree lines , shrubbery, and hedges are also important in that they baffle noise and protect the privacy of nearby residences . In regards to tree lines , shrubs , and hedges , the developer proposes the following: **a. Developer shall be required to plant one tree for every 2000 sq . ft . of building footprint area . Mr. Reitz : asked to go to the first paragraph. . .when you speak of trees are you talking about deciduous or evergreen or • leafbearing? Mr . Krogh: whatever you want . . .a tree is a tree. Mr. Reitz : No, there is a distinct difference; if you are talking about buffering from noise and all that , obviously evergreens do a greater buffering. Mr. Auble: Yes , they are going to be in certain places, but you don' t want them out along the road in front of the place, you'd • want other trees. Mr. Reitz : then along the borderlines of the adjacent neighbors . . . Mr. Auble: that would be up to you guys when we present you with our landscape plans , to tell us where you want which trees where. . .we are going to leave that up to you, you tell us where you want them. • Mr. Reitz : that ' s fair . Mr. Hogan: I think that should be so stated in here, OK? Mr. Auble: thinks it is . Mr. Reitz : Yes, it does say what types and where they are going. . . that could be negotiated as part of the development plan that we would have to approve. • B. Page: asked if money will be set aside for landscaping of this project . . .sometimes a project is done and there is no money left • and it never gets done. Could you say something like $2,000 . • will be put aside for this? Mr . Hogan: that is something to consider, it could become a condition of occupancy. Mr. Reitz : that is a good point . One question also, 2000 sq. ft . of building footprint, or one tree, how many footprints do we have, what size area are you talking about , 100 ,000 sq. ft . or 107 ,000 sq. ft . I think is the number we came up with before. ' Mr. Krogh: it would be about 50 trees or so. Mr . Reitz: along which borders now, the borders on Seneca Rd. and RT 96? Mr. Krogh: basically wherever you want them. Mr. Rachun: are these included in the border trees or separate from that? The 50 odd trees would include tree lines and everything else, they wouldn' t be above and beyond. AL4k Town of Ulysses 4 Special Board Meeting • December 16, 1991 Mr. Auble: we based it on other projects going on today, even a post office. Mr . Hogan asked if that was in a residential area . Mr . Auble: No it ' s on 5 & 20 , a State road, not in a residential but commercial area. Like us , we don' t want to build on Congress or Cayuga St . , want to build on a State road. 1L' Mr . Hogan: will put a question mark on that one, have to think II 7 about it . **b. The western boundary of the project, bordering against Seneca Road, shall be planted with a line of trees no less than 50 feet apart . Mr . Weatherby: are these trees part of the 50? Mr. Auble : Yes . Mrs . Stover: how many feet along Seneca Rd. is this? Mr . Hogan: about 400-500 ft . Mr. Schlecht : about 8 trees on Seneca Rd. and about 4 on RT 96. 1 Auble: we have to stay back a little more on RT 96. Can' t block the view. Mr. Reitz : did you mean the western boundary of the project? That would be the northwest portion of the project . Everyone agreed. Mr. Hogan: It seems to him, if you are going to plan reasonable size evergreen trees, 50 ft apart is quite a ways apart. Mr. Auble: the evergreens wouldn' t be there, we want to plant the • evergreens someplace else. Mr. Hogan: I thought the basic reason for the trees is to create a buffer zone, noise and visual . Mr . Auble: we' ll put them wherever you want them. Mr. Krogh: the 50 ft . number was just to guarantee a certain amount of buffering and then it would be interspersed with the remaining, that would require about twelve trees . The other 42 trees that would be required under the plan would be interspersed along there to create buffers, either for sightliness or noise factor or whatever you want . If you want more over there and more on one side, then we have 40some trees to play with. Can make it more or less dense as the need requires . Mr. Auble: they will present the Board with a landscape plan and the Board can make the choice. Think Alex made a point the other night , what we are doing is not put down in concrete; we have got to be able to move this stuff . . . and we are more than willing to move it . When you get the plan, look it over , do what we are doing tonight and think everything can be resolved. Mr. Hogan : just thinking what the attorney said the other night . . . that a conditional zoning becomes a document that is attached to the deed, so I just think it would be easier for everyone involved, if it were kind of specific rather than vague. It means one thing to you and another thing to me and will save some haggling later on. Mr. Auble : definitely, we don' t want that . i .1 n .. i. f .f .. a' , n��,. t 'iM `,.i r .. t• N_.[ M1.t i � L'.•. . r '1 1,4 101 Town of Ulysses 5 Special Board Meeting December 16 , 1991 • • Mr. Hogan: if we can get it so it ' s fairly specific, everybody understands it , will save some time later on. • • Mr . Auble: that is exactly what we are trying to do. • • • Mr . Hogan: that 50 ft . apart . . . just thinking if I own a home over there, what would I like to see across the street from me between • me and a commercial development? I 'd probably like to see a • double row of evergreens over there. . . • Mr. Reitz : that is what they are describing. . . Mr . Hogan: that is not what this says . . . Mr. Reitz : No, but . . . Mr. Hogan : so what do we do with this 50 ft . Mr. Reitz : planted with a line of trees no more than 50 ft . • • apart; the second line to say to be staggered as part of their development plan which we submitted for approval . Talking about • 50 odd trees total . The first line would be this distance apart , the next line. . .staggered at 50 ft . apart which puts only a 25 ft . buffer. Mr. Hogan: why don' t we put that in there then, that this is • going to be 50 ft . apart for the first line; second line. . . • Mr. Reitz : we may want a third or forth line, without seeing the development plan I • • Mr. Hogan: why don' t we say 'the northwest boundary of the project, bordering against Seneca Road, shall be planted with a line of trees no less than 50 ft . apart sufficient to create an adequate buffer zone' . • Mrs . Kahn: asked why you have to have 'no less ' ; • Mr. Weatherby: it should be the other way around, should say 'no more than 50 ft . apart ' , if you want it denser. Gentleman: They are only covering up 150 ft . of that 500 ft . anyway, the way he's got it written, that 250 . Mrs . Stover: They said 250 from each side . • Gentleman: They 've got the drive down close to the edge of that • • one property line on the south side there, doesn' t leave much to cover up. • • Mr. Hogan: But the drive isn' t going to be that wide, right? • Gentleman: You want 250 ft . from the drive. • Mr. Reitz : That 's on RT 96. We know. Mr. Auble: The drive and the trees is part of DOT; they can come and tell us not to have any trees . That is why the drive had to • be moved down there, that is where DOT wanted it . **c. The front line of the property, facing Route 96, shall be planted with a line of trees spaced no less than 50 feet apart , except that such line of trees shall not be planted within 250 feet of the proposed main entrance to the project to avoid ( 1) interference with pedestrian and vehicular lines of sight, (2) causing a nuisance, or (3) presenting a hazard to the drivers on the public highway. . Town of Ulysses 6 Special Board Meeting December 16, 1991 Mr. Hogan: actually in last item talked about trees being planted further away from the road so they would not create a hazard. Mr. Krogh: if it 's a buffer zone that 's not a problem, but in terms of a tree line along the road, DOT will have a problem. Mr. Reitz : did I understand that you have been in conversation with DOT about the potential driveway? Mr. Auble : Yes , Mr. Schlecht , Mr . Krogh, we have all talked to them. No traffic problem whatsoever. Mr. Schlecht : would urge you to look at this as we didn' t want to promise something that we couldn' t deliver on. There are 50+ trees to be planted; we ' ll plant them along RT 96 if DOT gives permission; this is just a proposal . Mr . Hogan : suggested changing the word "less" to "more" as in the other paragraph. **d. In addition to the trees and plants to be planted, existing tree lines inside of the property lines shall be preserved to the extent practicable and shall be enhanced by planting of additional trees in accordance with sub-subparagraphs "a" and "b" above. Mr . Hogan: your intention is to leave as many trees as possible? Mr . Schlecht : Agreed. **(3) Public Uses of land. The developer believes that any • proposed commercial project should take into account the needs of the community. In accord with this concept , the developer proposes the following: • **a . Water Tower- A parcel of land will be made available to the Town, or such other entity as the Town directs , upon which a water town will be built so as to increase the overall capacity of the water system proposed to be used on the property . This tower will increase the water pressure in the other water mains or lines currently installed or to be installed in the subject property. Mr. Hogan: should we be more specific there as to how much land will be made available? Mr. Krogh: we could. . . think it depends on the size of the water tower, OSHA will have certain requirements . Mr. Reitz : we would also want to put it on the highest elevation on the property as possible. Mr. Schlect : not necessarily; big advantage of putting it at the end of the line. Mr. Reitz : one question I would have; 'upon which a water tower will be built ' . . .who is going to build the water tower? Will that be a municipal responsibility, since it will improve services in that area, or is it the intent of the developer to consider entering into a partnership or build it on their own? Mr. Hogan: basically we aren' t in the water business so we don' t have a problem with who builds it , as long as we don' t . Mr . Reitz : have a water district in the Town at present and another could be designed for this . . .don' t know. Village Trustees have also indicated they would like to explore this matter; they are recognizing a need. Town of Ulysses 7 Special Board Meeting December 16, 1991 Mr . Hogan: we are getting into discussion of something that we don' t have anything to do with. . .we aren' t in the water business . ' If the developer wants to provide space, that is a good idea. Do wonder if this statement will do the job. You are saying however much space is required you will provide it? Mr . Auble: Correct . ' Mr . Reitz : suggested the word "will" be changed to "may". **b. A "park-and-ride" facility will be established in cooperation with Tompkins County. All felt this was OK. **c. Public phones will be made available and installed on site. All felt this was OK. **d. Instead of the normal park-and-ride plastic and aluminum structure, the developer will seek to get approval from Park-and- Ride to build a small gazebo which will serve the same purpose as the normal park-and-ride plastic and aluminum waiting/shelter • • areas . Such gazebo shall comply with the proposed architectural . conditions . All felt this was good. • **( 4) Parking. An adequate amount of parking is deemed -• desirable by not only standard building codes , but as a matter of • ;.: . sound business practice. In regards to parking, the developer proposes the following: n. **a. One parking space shall be provided for every 200 sq. feet of leased space, or as otherwise required by the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses . . All felt this was OK, since the requirements may vary and would • be covered by the Town' s Ordinance. • **b. All parking shall be designed in accord with standard parking principles . All agreed this was OK. . **c. All parking in the area shall be clearly designated with appropriate yellow or white lines . All Agreed this was OK. **d. All "no parking" areas , such as fire lanes , driveways through parking lanes , and main exit and entrance routes, shall be clearly marked to prevent parking and unnecessary congestion. OK **e: Handicap parking zones shall be clearly identified and 1 established and shall comport with all handicap accessibility codes , laws, and ordinances . OK **f . All parking spaces shall be of a standard width. OK **(5) Handicap Accessibility. In addition to the handicap :' . aft Town of Ulysses 8 Special Board Meeting • • December 16, 1991 parking provisions above, all curbs , store fronts , and areas of the project shall be accessible to handicapped individuals . **( 6) Entranceways . The developer feels that the proper safe design of egress and exits is important not only to the • appearance of the project , but the safety of the public using the • project . Thus , in regards to the proposed entranceways , the • developer proposes that the Town Board consider the following conditions : **a . The main driveway shall be of a split-lane design or of such other design as mandated or required by New York State II Department of Transportation standards or regulations . All felt this was OK. **b. All entranceways and exitways shall be clearly marked with appropriate signage and lane markings and indicators . • • All felt this was OK. **c . The main exitway shall have at least two lanes , one which will be a right turn only lane so as to prevent congestion (subject to the approval of NYS/DOT) . **d. The entranceway shall be designed in such a manner so as to provide an unobstructed clear line of vision on RT 96 in accord • with NYS/DOT standards and regulations . • **e. A separate entrance will be provided on West Seneca Road for service vehicles . All service vehicles will enter through the side entrance of Seneca Road so as to prevent congestion at the main entranceway. All felt these items were OK. **(7 ) . Lighting . The developer feels that proper lighting is essential not only to a sound business district , but for public safety. Thus , the developer proposes the following lighting conditions : -•- **a. Suitable street lighting will be provided and will be installed at an adequate height and with adequate candle power. Such street lighting will be established along RT 96 covering the •• full length of the proposed development along RT 96, so long as the NYS/DOT so permits . Mr . Reitz : will this be at developer' s expense, or taxpayers? Mr. Auble : I will pay for street lighting. Some people asked about lighting inside the developed area . . .would like to see lower type lights , not as tall as along the street . . .discussion took place. This will be considered as part of the development plan. NYS/DOT will probably say what type of lighting along the roadway. **b. The main entrance and service entrance will be clearly lit so as to allow drivers of vehicles using such entrances and exits to be able to clearly identify the proper lanes and all signs in the area. **c. The parking lot shall be lit by light poles which shall provide adequate candle power to illuminate the public parking area at night . Such candle power shall be sufficient to allow pedestrians and drivers to identify any hazards in the parking lot . • Town of Ulysses 9 + • Special Board Meeting December 16, 1991 **d. The park-and-ride facilities shall be lit so as to allow the general public to clearly identify the park-and-ride facilities, and to be able to safely use the gazebo . Mr. Reitz : The word ' gazebo' should be changed to "facilities" . **e. All side yards and rear lots shall be lit by rooftop lighting allowing drivers to clearly identify the location of the building, and to allow drivers to read appropriate signage so as to determine their proper lane and methods of ingress and egress . **(8) Signage. Signage is important for two reasons ; (1) for the •: safety of drivers and pedestrians and (2) to help the public identify the retail establishment it seeks to visit . Allowing the establishments to identify themselves prevents unnecessary driving in the parking area and prevents interference with pedestrian traffic by drivers who are too busy searching for a particular retail store while not paying attention to the pedestrian traffic in the parking lot . Thus , the developer proposes the following signage conditions : **a. All parking areas shall be clearly designated with the appropriate painted symbols on the surface of the parking lot . **b. All no parking areas will be clearly identified by painting on the surface of the parking lot, and with appropriate "no parking" and "fire lane" signs . **c. All drives , streets , main entrances and exits , and all • surrounding areas in the development shall have appropriate signs •• placed thereon, including stops, yields , turn only, U-turn signs , and other appropriate signs , as if such roads were public •. highways . Thus , the developer will put all necessary signs , symbols , and markings , as would be required under Vehicle & Traffic Laws as if the parking area and entrances and exits to such development were public highways as defined and regulated by the Vehicle '& Traffic Laws of the State of New York **d. Regarding commercial signage, the developer proposes the following : i . All retail establishments shall have a sign clearly identifying the name of the establishment located on the front of the building. ii . Said frontal commercial signage shall not extend over the top of the upper facia, nor extend below the bottom • facia, and shall otherwise comport in all respects with sign limitations in the Town Zoning Ordinance. iii .All commercial signage, if powered by any electrical source, shall be securely grounded in accord with the National Fire Prevention and Electrical Code as adopted by the State of New york, including any special restrictions placed thereon by Town ordinance or rule, as the same is enforced by the local zoning and code enforcement officer . iv. No establishments shall have any other. signage than specifically described herein, except and unless a variance is granted by the Town Board. v. The main entrance sign shall clearly identify the name of the commercial development, and may list names of particular stores within such development . • vi . Such entrance sign shall not interfere with drivers ' or pedestrians ' line of sight to or from RT 96. .'' • r . 'i 1. 1 • • . .. • r::2.•.l ♦� V�li. ••�I' 'ylr .- " ' ' . • -ilWl. .�. ,: '. M1 Town of Ulysses 10 Special Board Meeting December 16, 1991 vii . Such main entrance sign shall comport with the aesthetic and architectural considerations above and shall utilize appropriate colors and design to identify specific businesses within the business district by and through the use of those businesses ' recognized tradename or trademark colors . • . Mr . Reitz : Question to Mr . Rachun - main entrance signs . . .doesn ' t define a size; we do have various qualifications for main entrance signs in our Section 3 , business districts , pg. 9 of zoning ordinance . . .which would prevail in this case? Mr . Rachun: Would depend on the site plan. . .would be defined when they come in with the site plan. Since it will be part of the deed, will have to be spelled out prior to the public hearing . Doesn' t have to be cast in stone, but do need an idea of what it will be. . . a mall type thing, or a couple of stores . No further comments or changes were indicated in these areas . **( 9) Sidewalks and Bike Paths- Safe access for the public through the development of a sidewalk and bike path system is deemed essential . Therefore, as a condition to the business district the developer proposes the following: **a . A walkway/bike path will be provided so as to allow direct access from the business district to the Leisure Living Estates Mobile Home Park. **b. The developer shall , at his own expense, build any walkway to the border of property owned by him so as to meet any walkway which borders the developer's property as built by the Town or Village, or other entity. Such walkway shall be built the same width, in the same manner, and with the same type of material as the walkway it is intended to meet . **c . A walkway area shall be provided for access to all front entranceways to the retail establishments located in the proposed business district . Such walkway shall be of a sufficient width so as to allow for the safe and uncongested passage of pedestrians . No questions or comments were made. **(10 ) Services . All walkway areas located directly in front of the retail establishments for use by the public in obtaining ingress and egress to the retail establishments within the business district shall have certain facilities and services located thereon, including, but not limited to, public mailboxes and telephones . No questions or comments . **(11) Topography and Drainage. Proper grading and drainage is absolutely necessary in any business project . Thus, the developer proposes the following conditions: **a . Grading and drainage shall be designed so as to cause all water run-off to drain away from public parking areas , sidewalks, and any other area designated for public use. **b. All drainage shall drain into drain courses or drain tiles designed in accordance with recognized engineering standards . **c. All parking lot drainage shall flow into covered ditches, storm sewers , channels , courses, or tiles designed for a ten (10 ) year storm event . , �e3 Town of Ulysses 11 Special Board Meeting December 16 , 1991 Short discussion ensued regarding ten (10) year storm event and types of drainage . **(12) Fire and Emergency Zones . All fire and other emergency zones , including the location of fire hydrants , shall comport with Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Codes as the same were adopted by the State of New York or enhanced by local ordinance or rule. No comments or questions . **(13) Yards , Setbacks, and Other Requirements . In accordance with the zoning ordinance, and to specifically define certain other structural requirements not addressed above, the developer proposes the following: **a . All front yards shall be a minimum of 75 feet from the highway right-of-way. Short discussion ensued. **b. All side yards shall be a minimum of 40 feet from any highway right-of-way or neighboring property line. **c. All rear yards shall be a minimum of 25 feet from any highway right-of-way or neighboring property line. **d. The tree requirements addressed above concerning tree lines upon Seneca Road and RT 96 shall , if necessary, be modified so as • to comply with New York State Department of Transportation visibility requirements or standards, and so as to comply with the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance, dated April 8 , 1978 . [THE REST OF THIS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED PARAGRAPH WAS DELETED BY THE TOWN BOARD] Upon reading the originally proposed paragraph, Mrs . Stover mentioned that it was rather wordy and hard to follow. Mr. Krogh indicated that this was in error and suggested removing it from the document . **e. Distancing between buildings shall be, in accord with Article V. , Section 11 of the aforesaid Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses, a minimum of 75 feet. [THE REMAINDER OF THIS PARAGRAPH IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT WAS DELETED] **f . Any accessory buildings may not occupy more than 40 percent of any rear yard and shall not be less that 5 feet from any rear lot line. Mr . Rachun: this should be 15 feet, not 5 feet . Mr . Reitz : will 15 feet be reasonable? Mr . Rachun: was trying to take into account that the rear of • some buildings may be facing Seneca Road. Mr . Weatherby: everything and anything should be inclusive inside the buffer. So the wording should be changed here . Mr . Hogan: do you want item (f) to read: Any accessory buildings may not occupy more than 40 percent of any rear yard and shall not be less that 15 feet from any rear lot line and within 10 feet of any designated buffer area. **g . No accessory structure may be within 40 feet of Seneca Road absent a specific use or area variance, as required. Decided to change ' 40 feet ' to '75 feet of Seneca Road right-of- . . I. ., ' F•'• .. .ry, . . ! . . • Town of Ulysses 12 Special Board Meeting . December 16, 1991 way ' , **h . No accessory building shall exceed 20 feet in height unless a specific use or variance is granted, as applicable. All landscaping for the proposed project must comply with Article VI , Section 10 of the aforesaid Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance, in addition to any requirements imposed by these proposed • conditions . **i . In all other respects , especially as it pertains to off- street parking, signage, non-conforming uses , and other use and building regulations contained in Articles VI through XI of the aforesaid Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses, the developer recognizes that the Zoning Ordinance shall apply as if fully set forth herein. **(14)Other General Considerations . **a . In all aspects , the proposed uses and design of the • structure shall comport with all restrictions applicable to • business districts in the local zoning ordinance. **b. All signage requirements shall also comply with he business • district requirements , plus any restrictions included above. • • **c . No billboards shall be allowed anywhere on the proposed • property unless an appropriate variance is granted by the Town Board . **d. Exterior storage structures, if any, shall be placed in the rear of the proposed building sites so as to not be visible or accessible to the general public, unless such structure is (1) • not exclusively used for storage and (2 ) is a normal ancillary • structure permitted by the Zoning Ordinance. **e. All electrical , gas and solar energy distribution facilities shall comply with the Uniform Fire and Building Codes , as enacted by the State of New York and enhanced or altered by local code, regulation, or rule. **f . All dumpsters shall be of a standard design and size and • shall be located in the rear of all establishments; away from public view and access . All such dumpsters shall be enclosed on at least three sides . This will enhance the overall aesthetic appearance and safety of the project . **g . All proposed retail establishments to be located within the • proposed business district shall be a type of business that is specifically allowed by the Town zoning ordinance for a business • district . No nonconforming use may be built, leased, or operated without a specific use variance from the Town Board granted in accord with the current or then existing Town of Ulysses zoning • ordinance. As stated, the above proposed conditions are intended to cover basic elements of public safety which we feel are important . Besides which, the developer must comply with far more restrictive conditions than identified above to obtain approval • from an insurance company engineer (in order to obtain insurance on the project) . This doesn' t even address the thousands of restrictions contained in the Uniform Fire Prevention, Building, and Electrical Codes . Mr . Hogan : this is obviously a list of specifications submitted • by Guy Krogh on behalf of William Auble. Are there any other • specifications the Board members think would be appropriate to add to this list? Town of Ulysses 13 Special Board Meeting ... • December 16 , 1991 • Mr . Reitz : think it reflects back to 'g' , the last item in the conditions . . . all proposed retail establishments to be located _ within the proposed business district shall he a type of business , etc . , etc . That is where I would like to introduce the possibility for the Board's consideration. . . think it should be better defined because our present business district covers a lot • of things that people objected to potentially, such as an 4.. . amusement park . What I am suggesting is that it be use permitted by Article IV, Section 1 a,b, c,d,e which is part of our residential zones; a is a dwelling, b is a church, c is a public library, d is a public park, e is a fire station. I would limit • it to a - e. Next I would suggest that we limit it to retail • store, business or professional office, restaurant or other place • for serving food or beverages , bank or monetary institution, light industry and vehicle sales , rental and service areas . Would also like to offer the following uses would NOT be allowed: • heavy manufacturing, salvage and scrap processing, commercial storage of volatile & hazardous substances, mining, and mobile home parks , as part of that condition of ' g' . Mr. Hogan: let 's look at that . Mr. Reitz : took business district which is on page 5. Mr. Hogan: reading zoning ordinance; you are saying any use provided by Article IV, Section 1 which is residential . . Mr. Reitz : correct . Just limited that use because there are some parts of that use which. . . commercial greenhouse, golf ' course, hospital sanitarium, foster home, etc . , which I deleted. . Mr . Rachun: light industry should also be defined. Also, within • the framework of the site plan, probably an indoor theater would fit in nicely, or a fitness center. They shouldn' t be deleted. Mr . Reitz : that certainly is a possibility . • Mr. Auble: what do you want to delete, the first paragraph? . Mr . Reitz : residential zones , OK. I included the first . . . . " • Mr. Auble: they are OK to put in there? Mr. Reitz : Yes . Mr. Auble: then what do you want to delete? Mr. Reitz : want to say what would NOT be allowed. . .heavy manufacturing, scrap processing, commercial storage of hazardous - substances . . . . etc. , as mentioned before. • - Mr . Rachun: also, other place of amusement opens the doors to . anything. . Mr. Reitz : I didn' t say anything about that . A theater could go under an allowable -use . A gas station/convenience store would be allowed also. _. Mr . Hogan: Tom, do you want to alter this to pick up some of • these other conditions? Mr. Reitz : Think listing a theater, that would be an asset . Also mentioned the possibility of a motel/hotel or tourist home; these are also listed under business districts . Would like to propose they be included. Have a problem with the business district , page 5f . . . theater, including drive-in theater, bowling alleys or other place of amusement . .E .r}. F+Y .� t.. ..) ....' .Y.:.,. ' ., 1 1 �.' �. 1 ' is .."`.n•, .' '.r'L. il `:2. ,1 _.. 1 � ' . a ®64 Town of Ulysses 14 Special Board Meeting December 16, 1991 Mr. Hogan: would then read . . .and uses as indicated in Section 3 Business Districts with the exception of item f? Mr. Reitz : think you can just put down follow item g . . . have item h - indoor theater . A fitness center was also suggested; just said retail store. . .would that be a commercial business . Mr . Rachun: retail store and services . . . Mr . Reitz : would suggest item 1 . . . fitness center/health club. Mr . Hogan: how about a day care facility? Mr . Reitz : how about under light industry??? Mr. Rachun: that 's something the Town Board might want to suggest with your park-and-ride; have one may want the other too . Mr . Reitz : suggest item j . . .day care center. Go back to my ' g' vehicle sales , rental & service areas . . . the service area I thought would be the gasoline pump station, different opinions tonight . . . Discussion ensued about allowing gas stations/repair shops . Mr. Hogan said he wasn' t concerned since State regulations are so tight . Mr. Weatherby : any definition for light industry? Mr. Reitz : to my knowledge we don' t define it; don' t allow it except under a PUD. Mr. Weatherby: but you are putting it in your proposal . . .what qualifies it? ' Mr . Reitz : put it in because another PUD before the Board has it in there also. Mr . Rachun: light industry is usually a non-smoke industry, electronic assembly, for example. Mr. Auble: have had several companies contact me and ask me what is going on . . .have told them not to call until something is done by the Town. These are nice, clean companies . Mr. Hogan: let 's leave light industry in this and come up with a definition. Mr . Reitz : one last thing that Mrs . Stover mentioned. . . a tourist cabin/motel/hotel . Would help downtown business . Make this item k . Mr . Hogan: you are saying your list will supersede what is in the zoning ordinance, with the exception of the first . . . . Mr . Reitz : I 'm just making this less conditional with what is in our zoning ordinance, that 's right . Their 'g' proposed everything . . . I 'm saying we don' t accept everything, we have conditions , and will accept these items . Mr . Hogan: You are saying that their paragraph ' g ' should be changed so that "All proposed retail establishments to be located within the proposed business district shall be a type of business . . . . " . Instead of that statement , you want your list in there; just hour are you proposing this be put in here? Mr. Reitz : I am proposing "that retail establishments be located • •.'.'. ... a'S I...., •i •,-;. .,. e. ,T� '... ;, t . . ,1 y; t";. , I .. ..%,::..,, 3 ® ; Town of Ulysses 15 Special Board Meeting December 16 , 1991 within the proposed business district shall be of the following types : a - k. " . Mr . Hogan: OK, forget the zoning ordinance. . .make a specific list . Mr . Rachun: what I have, on ' f ' for instance, is the only one I • • have real concern with and has theater (excluding drive-in \.• II theater) , bowling alley . Is not including other places of "; amusement . . .now there is an area they can come back and say they want to put in some kind of outdoor amusement . . . as far as indoor amusement . . . you can consider some sort of health club as amusement , an indoor arcade, that shouldn' t be in the same context . Guess the concern is outdoor amusement . • Mr . Reitz : can say then. . . indoor theater, bowling alley or other indoor place of amusement . J- • Mr. Rachun: yes , that would work. Make it indoor. If they want . to come in for a miniature golf course or something, they would have that in variance. Mr . Reitz : I certainly accept Alex's thoughts on this . Mr . Rachun: think it needs to state. . . ' f ' theater, excluding drive-in theater , bowling alley or other places of indoor amusement . • Mr . Reitz : also under Section 3 business district A. . . I limited that to a,b,c ,d,& e. Mr. Hogan: under residential . . . . ' f ' is a golf course. . Mr . Reitz : so many of those other ones also fall under special permits from the Board of Zoning Appeals and that other stuff , just don' t think it ' s necessary to include it . Our business district includes everything in Section 1 . •' Mr . Hogan: but do you think it ' s necessary to exclude them? Mr. Curtis : can you have two types of businesses one that is permitted by rights and the other permitted with a special permit? Like some of these questionable ones you are talking about , such as the gas station or video parlor. Mr . Reitz : yes you probably can say that, we are already. . . that . as a residential district we are saying we can' t do it . Mr . Curtis : put down the things you know will be alright . . .good . clean businesses; those you permit by right and the rest of them you can say only with a special permit . You don' t have to say . right now. . .don' t want to exclude them. Mr. Hogan: have the zoning ordinance now that is telling us what is OK. . . if it 's OK in a residential district why wouldn' t it be OK in a business district? I can' t see anything that would be objectionable. Mr . Rachun: think Ben's point on special permit applies to something more controversial than what you are talking about in a residential district . Mr . Hogan: think we are getting off into left field here . Someone who is going to put this kind of money into a development isn' t going to want to store animals there. Mr . Curtis : in Lansing there is a guy who wants to put a veterinary clinic in. . . that ' s not a bad use, people didn' t , 1":ice . .:? ....i'1 .. . 'c'` Town of Ulysses ' 16 Special Board Meeting December 16 , 1991 object , but it took a special condition to say, you can do that but you can' t harbor dogs or keep them there because they didn' t want them barking at night . But instead of saying at the • beginning we will or won' t have it, they put it with a special • permit . Mr . Rachun: we have that now. Think it ' s a valid point Tom, when you get into business districts . . . forget residential . Mr. Hogan: OK, explain to me why it ' s a valid point . Mr. Rachun: you have a concept plan here that presents something - that is going to look like a mix of retail business and commercial office space, etc. and it looks like it ' s going to be grocery store, some kind of department store, some other stores , a restaurant, etc . , you have that in your mind, but the reality of it may be a couple of car sales places and a gas station and a miniature golf course. That may be the reality, what they can get in here. So you may want to say, Yes , if that ' s going to come in here, that 's an allowable use but is a special permit and let ' s see how you are going to put it , if it will fit in. That • is going to have the potential of being more offensive than these other things do, that are spelled out . We do do that in our zoning, we do have special permits . . . hospitals and sanitoriums , special permit; nursing/convalescent home, special permit; juvenile/adult foster home, special permit . . . right down the line. Mr . Hogan: that 's what I 'm saying they are already covered. • Mr. Rachun: well these aren' t covered; car sales , gas station, animal hospital . They might be valid things for these people to put in there but they may require something more than a 'business of right ' . Mr . Hogan: why can't you say that we are accepting a concept plan and if you deviate from that plan it would have to be reviewed. You could say any proposed change to the concept plan as initially stated would be subject to review. Mr . Auble: what area are you worried about? Mr. Reitz : it 's taken the entire business district now as presented, include all residential districts and put it on the • condition of the zoning of your property. Think we have heard from the residents already that there are concerns about the possibility of a 'go-cart ' track there. That 's just an example . Mr . Auble : when you rewrote 'g' or ' f ' , that all amusements are indoor types . . . you alleviated all that . . . couldn' t have a go-cart track. Mr. Reitz : recognize also, Bill that it does not include light industry. . . if you accept it as it is being described right here . Unless that is inclusive. Mr . Hogan: would say that if we are going to attach this thing as a condition to the deed, if we just say we are going to allow this thing to be developed commercially; any developer who comes I . _ in with a concept plan and thereafter wants to make a change to that approved concept plan, that substantial change would have to be reviewed, by the Planning Board and subject to approval by the Town Board. Mr. Rachun: how would that be written in a covenant? Mr . Hogan: let 's write it out . . . a special permit will be ,.1 ® • 3s1 Town of Ulysses 17 Special Board Meeting December 16, 1991 required from the Town Board for the following : a) gasoline/sales station/garage for repairs/auto sales; b) any outdoor sales excluding nursery . This isn' t saying that we aren ' t ever going to allow something like this , would just take a look at it and give a special permit . Don' t see any problem with it . Mr . Rachun: in light of what we have done to this point , including SEAR and everything we have done, we better cover this with a special permit . ri Mr . Hogan: if a developer is going to sink a couple of million dollars into a project is not going to stick a drive in there that could totally destroy the traffic patterns and create such • congestion that he will drive people away. • • Mr. Rachun: NYS Code is going to require all these commercial buildings to be stamped off by a licensed engineer. Also would suggest that the site plan have the same requirements . They will determine where drives should be; and then if you have risk management underwriting the project, they are going to underwrite projects that aren' t going to create a problem. Think that should be included too. Mr. Hogan: a licensed professional engineer should put his stamp on the site plan? Mr . Rachun: yes . It has to have it for the buildings , but I 'm • saying for the plan. Mr . Hogan: makes sense. That 's something you'd be doing anyway. Give me your wording Alex. Mr . Rachun: right after special permits . . . the proposed site location of all retail establishments to be located within a • proposed business district shall be certified by a licensed professional engineer with his/her stamp as per New York State Code. Discussion ensued regarding light industry. Mr . Hogan suggested adding 'h' - light industry will also be included [in Mr. Krogh' s letter] . Mr . Reitz : have to go up to item ' f ' , under theater, that has to be included in the same statement . Mr . Hogan: we have already done that . Mrs . Georgia: think the most logical thing to do here is to spell it out. . . take it right out of the content . . . otherwise it is too confusing . You are working with the zoning ordinance, Tom's business district B2 proposal and Guy Krogh's recommendations . . . getting too confusing. • Mr . Hogan: the only thing we are excluding from the normal business district is drive-in theater or other place of outdoor amusement . We are adding light industry. Mr . Weatherby: didn' t Alex offer to sit down with a Board member and write this up? Mr. Rachun: yes . Will be happy to. Then meet again. Mr. Hogan: said at the last meeting that we should involve the Planning Board, once we finish this should give them a couple of days to look at it . • ,;is `i•;'ta_ . . .. � 'j•. ,'•I ,:�, '•.: :;r. •• .:y, ....;. , • 401 • Town of Ulysses 18 Special Board Meeting December 16 , 1991 Mr. Reitz : think this needs to be rewritten and given to the Town Attorney also. • Mr . Hogan: actually Jim Meeker will have input , but this will be coming out of DOT. What else do you want to include in this document? Have heard talk about performance bonds . . . guess a good size developer puts up a performance bond, the details which are worked out by attorneys from both sides . Think something like that should be included. Mr . Reitz : in the deed, or just the development plan? Mr . Hogan: should be a condition for development . A performance bond should be a condition for each phase of this development . It ' s a protection for the people in the area. Mr . Hogan will talk to the Town Attorney about this issue. Should also have • • something in there that says any connections to existing ;. infrastructure will be at the expense of the developer . Mr. Reitz : that is up to the municipality that is offering the infrastructure. • Mr . Hogan: just thinking ten years down the road, sewer and water is up that way, or maybe an agreement with the Village. . .who will bring all of that from the middle of the road into the development , whose cost is that? • Mr . Auble: that would be up to the developer. . .up across there. Mr. Reitz : that 's a condition the municipality has for hooking up. . . right now that is a prevailing Village Mr. Hogan: I don' t know, just thinking. Mr. Auble: we don' t want to be a burden to the Town at all , we' ll pay for that . Mr . Hogan: will add that the developer will be responsible for any necessary installation or construction of utilities and other infrastructure. • Mr. Hogan stated that he had received a note from Ruth Kahn which said if you decide on conditional zoning akin to spot zoning, • will you have set a precedent for future requests for special consideration? That 's a good question. We have a master plan committee working on an overall plan and hopefully they will have that in another few months so that these special considerations won' t have to be made. Any time you have people living in an area you are going to have special considerations . Mr . Rachun: I wasn' t one of the people who was for conditional zoning on this , I was more for a change of zoning, but think Guy ' s point that he brought out, that the fact that this is going • to be a deed covenant , and stay with the land, it ' s locked in there, will hold a heck of a lot more water than something in our zoning ordinance that seems to be targeted quite often, and changed quite often. I have come around in favor of conditional zoning. Mr . Hogan : that ' s the way I feel . II Hearing no further discussion, Mr. Hogan stated that the next meeting will be Monday , December 30 , 1991 and asked the Board to be prepared. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mr . Weatherby. Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 10 : 37PM. Respectfully submitted, • •a TOWN OF ULYSSES Special Board Meeting December 30 , 1991 PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Board Members; Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Carolyn Duddleston. Robert Weatherby absent. Jeanne Vanderbuilt, Bookkeeper and Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others Present: Ben Curtis Mr. Hogan called the budget meeting to order at 7 : 15 p.m. to discuss the transferring of monies to adjust for the overdrawn accounts . Mrs. Vanderbilt stated that there will have to be a • final budget meeting to finish up the year. This was set for January 18th, 1992 at 9:00 am. It was also decided to have the year end audit that Saturday morning. The department heads will be notified. •, BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS - GENERAL FUND • • The first item discussed was the overdraft in the justice • account; A1110 .01 -$ 9267 . 99 A1110 . 04 -$ 1687 . 85 • With other outstanding unpaid vouchers the A1110 . 04 account would be overdrawn to a total of $2456. Mrs . Vanderbilt suggested that the Board take a look at the -: revenue A2610 , that the court has generated and suggested that they transfer from there to adjust the overdraft . A2610, Fines & Forfeit, has $12 , 975 . 30 over anticipated revenue. The following other accounts are also overdraw: A1010 .04 $120 . 63 A1220 .01 • . 36 • A1220 .04 3 . 62 A1330 .04 222 . 92 A1410 .01 12 .79 A1450.01 has $870 . overdrawn but this is due to the transfer of funds to run payroll for the elections inspectors . This overdraft will be taken care of with a transfer from A1450 .04. A1670. 04 $1625. 46 • A3510 . 04 113 . 96 A5010 .01 .32 A5182 . 04 146. 35 A7310 .04, UYU is overdraw but will do transfers from Youth and County Youth to take care of this . (the other A7310 .04 accounts) A9030 . 08 $ 996. 17 A9055 .08 51 . 82 Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Duddleston the following resolution. (the transfer will in some cases reflect higher transfers because of additional vouchers to be processed) - immommor • JOB ® Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting Budget Adjustments • 12-30-91 • Transfer to the following accounts in the amount of: A1110 .01 $ 9300 . A1110 .04 2456. Transfer from: • A2610 $11,756. Transfer to the following accounts in the amounts of : • A1010 . 04 $ 181 . A1220 .01 1 . A1220 . 04 4. A1330 .04 223 . A1410.01 13. A1670 .04 1842 . • A3510 .04 114 . • A5010 .01 1 . • Transfer from: • A1990 . 04 $ 2379. Transfer to the following accounts in the amounts of : • A5182 .04 $ 242 . A9030 .08 997 . A9055 .08 52 . • Transfer from: • A2680 $ 1291. Transfer to the following accounts and the amount of : • A1450 .01 $ 870 . Transfer from: A1450 .04 870 . Transfer to the following accounts and the amount of : A7310 .04(UYU) $ 5700 . • Transfer from: A7310 .01 404 . A7310 . 04(county) 5296 . Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye • Adopted II BUDGET ADJUSTMENT - PART TOWN B FUND The accounts of the personal services and contractual for the fire inspector are overdrawn as are the contractual account of the zoning. Also refuse and garbage is overdrawn under personal services , but the county will reimburse the town for this . Town of Ulysses 3 Special Board Meeting Budget Adjustments 12-30-91 Mr . Hogan entertain the following resolution, moved by Mrs . Duddleston, seconded by Mrs . Stover; Transfer to the following accounts and amounts of; 83410 .01 $418 . 83410 .04 53. B8010 . 04 262 . 1 88160 .01 269. 89055 .08 22 . Transfer from: $1990 .04 $1024. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Adopted BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS HIGHWAY A FUND • Mr. Hogan entertained the following resolution, moved by Mrs . • Duddleston, seconded by Mrs . Stover to: Transfer from the following accounts and amounts: DA5142 .04 $548 . DA5148 . 04 548 . Transfer from: DA5142 . 01 $548 Da5148.01 548 Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye • Mrs. Stover aye Mrs. Duddleston aye I. Adopted BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS - HIGHWAY B FUND Mr. Hogan entertained the following resolution, moved by Mr . Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston to: Transfer from the following accounts and amounts of : DB5110 . 01 $11,252 . DB9030 .08 861. DB9060 . 08 1 , 965. Transfer from: DB5110 .04 $14,078 . . �® Town of Ulysses 4 Special Board Meeting Budget Adjustments 12-30-91 Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye • Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Adopted The Board discussed the per capita monies received and that they were all put into the DR fund and nothing into the Part Town B fund. Mrs . Vanderbilt mentioned that the auditor had questioned the $6695 encumbered funds for water study and that the Board needs to do something about that and transfer it to a reserve account that exists or create a new reserve or putting it back over into the fund balance. Mr. Hogan felt that the board should wait until all the bills have come in to see if they need it to be transfer into the fund balance to pay the bills. We can wait until the meeting we have on January 18th. Mr . Reitz asked if the water rate had been done for Alpha House. Mr. Hogan had not got the rate yet and will do that for the next meeting. • EMPLOYEES 403B PLAN TO 457 PLAN Mr. Hogan moved the following motion, seconded by Mrs . Duddleston: RESOLVED: Town Board of the Town of Ulysses adopt the 457 , before tax compensation plan, provided by Mainstay Inc . , authorizing the Town of Ulysses bookkeeper to submit payroll deductions to Mainstay for this plan for a period of one year providing there is no cost to the Town of Ulysses . • FURTHER RESOLVED: this 457 is taking place of the existing 403B and all funds are being transferred. A discussion followed in reference to the cost of the third party administrator. Scot Hurlbut will take care of this charge in 1992 . The question was raised as to who would cover this in 1993 etc . and would it be to high of a cost for the employees to handle themselves . Mr. Hogan will find out an exact cost . Mr. Reitz stated that he would like this information before he signs back up in this . Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz abstained Mrs . Stover aye Mrs . Duddleston aye Adopted Mr . Hogan offered, seconded by Mr. Reitz the following resolution: WHEREAS: Carolyn Duddleston has been an active member of the Ulysses Town Board for 8 years and WHEREAS: she has faithfully and diligently served the taxpayers of the Town of Ulysses . We the Ulysses Town of Ulysses 5 Special Board Meeting Budget Adjustments 12-30-91 Town board wish to commend her and thank her for her many accomplishments . Mr . Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye • Mrs . Stover aye Adopted Hearing no further business the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk 1 TOWN OF ULYSSES • REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING ••, • January 6, 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, • Catherine Stover , Ben Curtis , Robert Weatherby; Zoning/Bldg Inspector Alex Rachun; Highway • Superintendent James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. • • Others Present : Marion Boratynski , Steve Proctor, Ruth Kahn, • Carolyn Duddleston, B. Stover, Suzanne Zimmerman. 1 Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Monthly Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 30PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United ' States of America . • • Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes as follows : Budget Mtg . 10/17/91, Special Board Mtg . 12/3/91, Regular Town Board Mtg. 12/10/91, Special Board Mtg . 12/16/91, Special Board . Mtg . 12/30/91 , Public Hearing 12/10/91 and Special Board Mtg. • . 12/10/91/ . Moved by Mr . Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover . • Mr. Reitz mentioned that the meeting of 12/16/91 , page 4 the woman in the audience was Barbara Page; the meeting of 12/10/91 , Reg . Town Bd. Mtg. page 11 both Mrs . Stover and I attended the meeting on Open Space. (NOTE: These minutes have been corrected on the original . ) Also, just got the Special Bd. Mtg. of 12/30/91 and would like to table that until we get to .review them. Mr . • Hogan said fine, will take action on all the others . • Mr. Hogan Aye , Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Abstained Approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department No report . • Report : Representative James Mason Unable to attend. Attending County Board Meeting . • Claims • Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims 1-46 in the . amount of $50 ,048 .03, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mr. Weatherby. • Mr. Hogan stated that the bill for the New York City trip was left in, think we need to talk about that further, since plans have been made for this year will leave it . Mr. Hogan Aye • Mr. Reitz Aye . Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • Mr . Curtis Aye Approved. Supervisor 's Financial Report Mr. Hogan said the Board met on the 30th December and talked • about 1991 bills . Still have some coming in. Will meet January Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Board Meeting January 6, 1992 18 , 1992 at 9 : 00AM and clear up final bills . Will also be annual audit by Board. Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Marion Boratynski presented a slide show of road work being done on Curry & Waterburg Roads . Following the slide show and questions by Marian, Mr . Meeker explained why and how the work was done by the Highway crew. OLD BUSINESS Auble Rezoning Request - Mr . Hogan mentioned that the Board met and discussed conditional zoning and the conditions the Board would consider . Dave Auble talked with Alex that they are considering revising their concept plan and make it more specific . Mr . Hogan asked Mr . Rachun to explain. Mr . Rachun stated that he was asked by the Board to put together what was discussed at the last meeting with the Auble change of zoning request . . .we had talked about special permit issues , • normal business issues and within the framework of ideas Tom had • come up with in terms of do's and don' ts , and the site plan that was submitted by Auble, along with a narrative and the landscape • plans , etc . , and along with the special permit issue which would include auto sales , etc . I put that together and met with Dave Auble . His expressed concern was that it was becoming to small and site specific in terms of these special permits . Felt this • might inhibit the development . I told him my concern and the Town' s concern and asked him what he suggested. The activity and proximity of the buildings would be spelled out . If something else comes up then would come back for a special permit . I told Dave that if he and George want to write something up to present to the Town , that 's fine . They need some more time because George is on Christmas vacation and they will have something to submit by Friday . My feeling is it is certainly worth a - look. . . it may be something that is more adequate than what we would come up with. Mr . Curtis said that it sounds like they are moving toward a PUD. Mr . Rachun said if you could contain a PUD in that loose a framework, possible, but it ' s interesting you are saying that because one of the issues that one of the partners was getting upset about was the special permit issue . Asked what they had to offer to help the partner along and what do you have to help the Town feel safe about this . He talked bout making the site plan somewhat specific; I told him that what he was saying seemed to have a stronger clause than what the Town was coming up with. He wants it worded in such a way that it is going to be a change in zoning as opposed to a PUD; it will be a commercial zone . The concept is pretty well spelled out ; to the point that this kind of retail activity will take place at this store, etc . , but not to the point that they are going to have architectural renditions of each building . They are going to have the exact activity, it may be a C2 , with one building in a Cl and light industry in another; they won' t know what it ' s going to be until they get it . If they get somebody who wants to come in there , has entirely different building size and concept . . . then it ' s back to the Town Board for a special permit or whatever . Mr . Curtis said one of the things that ' s a feeling about a PUD as opposed to rezoning is that it seems in the case of rezoning you are doing something exceptional ; that ' s what a lot of the discussion is about and I haven ' t seen a basis for that , it seems you are opening the Town up to charges of spot zoning and a lot of other problems . If you deal with it as a PUD; it is perfectly Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Meeting January 6 , 1992 consistent with what the Town has dealt with. Mr . Rachun responded whether it is consistently correct or not may be an issue; it may be that we have created 18 consistent spot zoning issues as opposed to the only thing Ben, is that a PUD is not going to be a flexible form of zoning for a twenty year build-out . Maybe nothing is , but at least this is going to provide the Town, in my eyes , with a certain amount of strength • in terms of saying , OK this is what we will pretty much look at as what is going to go in there. . . this will also give the • developer flexibility to go out and try to bring in developers down here . This might be ten years in the making with the way things are going now it may be just a big fancy pipedream to get developers here. But he might get a business down here, maybe not , but at least we will have something that he can show them. Mr . Curtis said we have heard the argument that in order to sell a project you need to have a Mr . Rachun said I am not in the developers corner on this . . . .Mr. Curtis said I am not saying you • are , just heard a lot of this notion that if you place restrictions you make it very difficult to sell your development or attract a developer and yet as I look around at business parks and commercial developments that I know of , most of them are in restricted areas and there is an attraction to that ; that the really good development really wants to come in to a development where they can be sure of what is going to happen around them when they are investing a lot of money . Not sure I can fully agree that it 's necessary to have a wide open proposal in order to go out and sell . Mr . Rachun said think the restrictions for the site plan that they are willing to put in place for their development , think that Dave Auble, being a developer who has some experience in this area, has a good mind set at to what he wants , my feeling is that the first document they put together was quite skimpy , the second document they put together seemed to be a fairly comprehensive site plan . . . I don' t know about you but when I went through it , I was fairly impressed with it in terms of site plan itself . The site plan itself didn' t spell out activities , we . •• were talking about generalities . . . they are willing to come back and say OK here is our site plan, here is our landscape plan, our lighting plan, parking plan, here is where commercial will go, " here light industry , etc . , this is it , if we vary or stray from '. this in general terms , then Yes , we have to come back and get a special permit from the Town. My feeling is that seems to be even a step ahead of what we [Town] had originally talked about 1 at the last meeting . Mr . Curtis said you prefaced this with a statement about Dave Auble's experience, his track record Mr . Rachun said I said he had experience, not saying whether it ' s good or bad. Mr. Curtis asked if this was something the Town Board would review? Mr . Hogan said we haven' t reviewed anybody ' s track record . . .we are talking concepts rather than personalities . Mr . Curtis said he isn' t talking personalities , talking about the notion of . experience as one of the things talked about in terms of whether or not you can rely on a person's judgment . 1 Mr . Rachun said the judgment we are relying on is an engineers judgment now. Two people are putting the site plan together , one is the last planner for the Town of Ithaca and George Schlect ; and the narrative with it ; they certainly are following the requests and input from Auble, but the product is coming from a professional standpoint . If you are willing to accept that these people are professionals in the field. • Mr . Curtis said he is just trying to imagine in the back of his dir Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Board Meeting January 6, 1992 mind Bill as he has known or seen him, having these two engineers tell him what he is going to put in his park . . . would think he is originating a lot of the ideas . Mrs . Kahn questioned the amount of parking and what is required. . , wondered if it wasn ' t overdone. Mr . Rachun said the Town can do something about the parking; • there is a formula that comes directly from the State . Mr . Curtis asked about the trees . . . there was something about DOT being involved, . .wasn' t familiar with that .Keeping my eyes open and looking at other places . . . has anyone taken a close look at this? In his proposal he is saying he won' t have a tree within 250 ' of the entryway . Mr . Hogan said it is so you can see to pull out . Mr . Curtis said it seems like a lot . Mr . Hogan said it is a good point and will check it out . Mr . Hogan said if we are talking about the trees then I guess it 's decided that we are going to go ahead with this project . . . is that how far we are? How does everybody feel about this new concept plan? Mr . Weatherby said he thought Mr. Rachun said they were coming back with something else so we will have to look at that . Mr. Rachun said he wants to preface that clearly. . . what they have submitted to date is not going to be changed, they are going to amend it , just add to it . What we talked about , and we started listing in our conditional zoning/special permit issues, what they are trying to do is get away from that and say, here is our site plan. . . if we want to vary or stray from our site plan, then it is a special permit issue. This new concept would take care of most of the items in 'g' . . . the outdoor . Mr . Curtis said he would like to see what they come back with. . .do have another concern or two . . . one of them being a traffic study/impact on bad intersection we have downtown. Mr . Reitz said they have done one on their own place . Don' t think they addressed other intersections . Mr. Curtis continued. . . a development like this could bring in additional revenue, I 'm very open to that, but if it winds up entailing . . . putting up a traffic light and other stuff , could end up costing more than it brings in. Mr. Reitz said that one things that came up also during discussion was garages and gasoline sales stations ; on page 7 of our zoning ordinance we do cover concerns raised about the fact that no part of any building shall be used within 200 ' of any residential district . . . . the concern raised has already been covered by this ordinance. Mr . Hogan again asked how the Board felt about this concept . . .he • felt it looks good; Mr. Reitz said let 's look at it , Mrs . Stover said it was worth looking at . Mr. Reitz asked Bill if he had a chance to check with the Town Attorney about a performance bond. . .Mr . Hogan said he didn' t get an answer on that but he will . Mr. Weatherby stated that he felt the number of trees shouldn' t be limited to 50 or 60 . Mr . Curtis asked if a recommendation had been received from the Planning Board? Mr . Hogan said the Town Board went over this with the Planning Board. • Town of Ulysses 5 ; Regular Board Meeting January 6, 1992 A tentative meeting was planned for Tuesday, January 14 , 1992 at 7 : 00PM between the Town Board and the Master Plan Committee . Mr . Hogan will confirm this with the Master Plan Committee and Town Board members . Alpha House Water Rate Tabled, • Personnel Policy Update Tabled. Mr . Hogan stated that perhaps , this can be discussed after the Master Plan Committee meeting on the 14th January . Justice Department Susan Zimmerman, newly elected justice, discussed with the Board • the two justice positions . RT 96 Lighting • Mr . Reitz said he has reviewed past minutes , and in May of last year, you [Mr. Hogan] stated you would write a letter to -� DOT/Cortland regarding the lighting; have you ever had a response? Mr . Hogan said he will have to find that information. • Talked to NYSEG and State engineers and think the State has to , initiate it . Will table it for this month and will get the information together for next month' s meeting . • • Water Survey Mr. Curtis asked about the water survey for Jacksonville. . . there was an ARC application mentioned. Mr . Hogan said we do have a • committee, spent money for a survey, committee is to compile the results and analyze them and get back to us . Nothing much has . been done. Will contact them. Mr . Hogan said in order to get one of these grants . . .helps if you • have some development . Have some time to look into it , will have to do it between now and Spring to see what we can do. NEW BUSINESS • • A. Appointments : 1 . Supervisor's Appointments : Mr. Hogan, Town Supervisor, made the following appointments : a . Bookkeeper: Jeanne Vanderbilt • b. Town Historian: Esther Northrup c . Deputy Supervisor: Carolyn Duddleston d. Chair. Highway Com: Bob Weatherby e. Chair . Bldg/Maint : William Hogan f . Liaison/Ulysses Lib. : Tom Reitz • g. Chair . Recycling Com: Katherine Stover h. Liaison/Town/Village Bd: Tom Reitz 2 . Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following: • RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint the following: a. Zoning Officer : Alex Rachun b. Deputy Zoning Officer: John Fahs Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Board Meeting January 6, 1992 c. Building Inspector : P.lex Rachun d. Fire Inspector: Doug Austic e. Planning Bd. Chair : VACANT f . Zoning Bd. Chair: Gail Zabawsky g . Rep. Env . Mngt . Council : Roxanne Marino h. Rep. Human Ser. Coalition: Aileen Beers i . Rep. Assess . Rev . Bd. : Pat Stevenson & VACANT j . Election Custodians : Keith Northrup & Robert Bennett k. Town Cleaner : Kim Fitchpatrick 1 . Rep . United Way: Donald Shardlow m. Rep. Co. Plan. Bd. : Tom Reitz n . Rep. Co. Youth Bd. : VACANT o. Rep . Ulysses Youth: VACANT p. Rep . Cable TV: VACANT q. Liaison Town/Village Youth: Tom Reitz r . Liaison SPCA: Carolyn Duddleston s . Town Attorney: Bruce Wilson t . Rep . to EOC: VACANT Mr. Curtis stated that if Mr . Hogan needs any help, to please call on him. • Mr. Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Approved. B. Salaries/Wages : Mr . Hogan entertained the following motion, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mr . Weatherby: RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approve salaries and wages as follows : 1 . ELECTED TOWN OFFICIALS: (yearly salary) a. Supervisor $5 , 622 . 85 •• • b. Councilpeople 2, 530 . 75 each (4) c . Justices : Rector 9,115 . 50 Zimmerman 4 , 120 . 00 d. Town Clerk 22 , 427 . 00 e. Highway Supt . 30 ,392 .00 f . Rec . of Taxes 3 , 100 . 00 2 . APPOINTED OFFICIALS (as stated) a. Deputy Town Clerk 8 . 27/hr. b. Deputy Supervisor 5 . 89/hr. c . Zoning Officer 8, 844 . 00/yr. d. Deputy Zon. 0ff . 8 . 27/hr . e. Bldg . Inspector 8, 844 .00/yr . f . Bldg . Insp. Clk. 866 .00/yr. g . Bookkeeper 6,190 . 15/yr . h. Historian 375 .00/yr. i . Justice Clk. 18 , 210 . 40/yr . Deputy Just . Clk. 6. 61/hr. j . Fire Inspector 11 . 00/hr. k. Cleaner 5. 90/hr . 1 . Office Asst . 6.50/hr. m. Recycling Sup. 6. 00/hr. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Approved. Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Board Meeting January 6, 1992 C . MEETING SCHEDULES : Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following: • RESOLVED: that the Regular Meetings of the Ulysses Town Board shall be held on the first Monday of each month. All meetings shall commence at 7 : 30PM at Ulysses Town Hall , 10 Elm Street , Trumansburg , NY: review of claims shall start at 7 : 00PM and • shall be open to the public. FURTHER RESOLVED: that all designated news media be notified of the foregoing schedule and the same shall be posted in accordance with the open meetings law. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Approved. D. AUTHORIZATIONS: Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following: RESOLVED: that a mileage rate of $ . 28 .0 per mile be paid to Town Officials and Employees conducting official Town Business when driving their private vehicles . RESOLVED: that the Highway Superintendent be authorized to incur expenses not exceeding $3 ,000 . for repairs and maintenance of highway equipment . RESOLVED: that the Chairman of Building and Maintenance be authorized to incur expenses not exceeding $1,000 . for emergency maintenance and repairs . RESOLVED: that in lieu of the report required by Town Law Sec. 29 (10) , the Supervisor be and he hereby is authorized to submit to the Town Clerk a copy of his annual report to the State Comptroller and that the Town Clerk shall cause a summary thereof to be published in accordance with law. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr . Curtis Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Approved. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover that the resolution concerning the undertaking for Town Officials be tabled until Mr . Hogan checks out bond amounts with the insurance carrier . This will be addressed on January 18, 1992 . Unanimously approved. E. DESIGNATIONS: Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz the following resolutions : RESOLVED: that the Ithaca Journal and the Trumansburg FreePress be and they are hereby designated as the Official Town Publications . RESOLVED: that the Tompkins County Trust Company is designated as the depository in which the Supervisor, Clerk, Receiver of Taxes , Justices and Inspectors, by virtue of their offices, shall Town of Ulysses 8 Regular Board Meeting January 6, 1992 J. deposit all money coming into their hands . FURTHER RESOLVED: that Town investments can be made at other banks as outlined in the Town Investment Policy. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye • Mr . Curtis Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted. F. RESOLUTIONS-ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS MEETING Mr . Hogan stated that this is a big money item and wants make the statement that we will do this this year, but will not do this •- every year . Maybe every other year , a sharing of costs . Mr. Reitz suggested establishing a Town policy regarding attendance of meetings . Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby to appoint Justice Roger Rector to represent the Town at the Association of Towns • Meeting in New York City . Mrs . Stover asked about the resolutions Roger will be voting on. . .Mr . Hogan said we will take care of them at the February meeting . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr . Curtis Aye Mr . Weatherby Aye Approved. • Mr . Hogan said he spoke with David Tyler regarding his desire to remain as Chair of the Planning Board. Would like to reappoint him, has experience. Mr. Reitz brought up discussion from last February regarding appointment of people; no written policy, but in essence agreed that the items raised by Mr . Gunn were complied with including advertisement of vacant positions . Mr . Rachun suggested that when a member of a board serves a full term, that maybe when that term expires , you may entertain a notion to advertise the position. . . a full term on the Planning Board is seven years; Mr. Tyler has only been on for a year. He has gotten his feet wet, has attended meetings in Syracuse and here on issues ranging from SEQR to planning . . . Mr . Hogan said we should probably adopt a policy now that either anytime there is a vacancy, interview and go through all the motions . . .OR. . . if we have someone who is just filling an unexpired terms and they are doing an excellent job, and want to continue, why waste our time advertising and interviewing and then reappointing that person. How does the Board feel? Short discussion ensued. Mr. Hogan said we could adopt a policy that states that every person who has served one or two years on any of the boards, and is well qualified, that the board reserves the right to reappoint that person . If the board decides to interview , they can; but reserves the right to reappoint if well qualified. That would be only if they have served one or two years and wish to continue. . . everyone else we would go through the normal interview process . Mr . Reitz asked how you would judge if a good job has been done. . .Mr. Hogan said you could ask the other board members , or 0 Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Board Meeting January 6 , 1992 • the Chair of that particular board. Mrs . Georgia suggested a policy that when an appointment comes up, advertise and • interview. . . otherwise you become discriminatory. Mr . Curtis agreed with Mrs . Georgia, stated that if you have a strong incumbent , let others that are interested know that . Mr . Weatherby suggested leaving each individual case up to the Town Board to deal with at the time. Mr . Hogan moved, seconded by Mr . Weatherby the following : That the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses reserves the right to • i. reappoint a Board member [Planning Board, Zoning Board of Appeals] who has served, in good faith, for one or two years ; anyone who has served for more than one or two years and wishes to be reappointed will go through the normal interview process [ie: advertising of position, submitting letter of interest and interview] . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Curtis Nay - Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Abstained ' Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz to reappoint David Tyler to the Ulysses Planning Board. Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Curtis Aye • Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye . Mr . Weatherby Aye Adopted. • Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby that David Tyler be . - appointed Planning Board Chairman. 1. Mr . Hogan Aye • Mr. Curtis Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye • Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Mrs . Georgia will give a news article to the FreePress asking for interested people for various vacancies . Procurement Policies Mr. Reitz said we are required to adopt procurement policies for purchases and contracts by January 1992 . Mr . Hogan said he will . put the information in all the board member ' s boxes and will address this at the February meeting . REPORTS Town Clerk - Mrs . Georgia reported fees collected for the month of December were $812 . 50 of which $597 . 93 was turned over to the Supervisor . Highway Superintendent - Mr . Meeker reported plowing and salting • as needed. Readied trucks for NYS inspection, installed new shop heaters . Thanked the Town Board for the Christmas turkeys . Zoning/Building Inspector - Mr. Rachun reported meeting with Town of Ulysses 10 Regular Board Meeting January 6, 1992 Ozzie Heila . Issued four permits. Met with Legion. . .neighbors have concerns . lard Members - Mrs . Stover stated that in regard to the audit, assured everyone that we did not enter into any contract with the • Town, it was simply officers of the Town, or employees, who purchased over the counter . Not aware that we had to refuse to sell to the Town . • Mr . Reitz mentioned that the recycling center does need a shelter and proposed to the Board for consideration the following; that UYU could perhaps do as a project . . . and build a lean-to type shelter . . . could be an educational opportunity for them. Asked if there was any money available for purchasing materials . Mr . Weatherby asked if the Fair Board would allow it and haven' t they opened up their building for shelter? Mr . Reitz said the building is available . . . just not convenient . Some discussion took place. Mr. Hogan suggested that a building/concept plan be presented and will look at it then. CORRESPONDENCE Mr. Hogan received correspondence as follows : Planned Parenthood, Energy Review, Health Hearts , Resolutions-Assoc . of Towns , Elder Abuse Prevention, Board of Reps . , Procurement Policy, TC Planning Board, NYS Dept . Economic Development , TC Chamber, letter from Guy Krogh, letter from TC Comptroller about tax increase. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 11: 10PM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia pm 3 gair y TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING January 18 , 1992 PRESENT: Supervisor William P. Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Ben Curtis , Catherine Stover and Robert Weatherby ; Marsha L. Georgia, Town Clerk; Jeanne Vanderbuilt , Bookkeeper. Mr . Hogan called the meeting to order at 10 : 35 am. Mr . Hogan stated that the Village had contacted him and that they would like to have a Joint Meeting. Joint Village and Town Meeting set up for February 24th at 7 : 00 pm. Mrs . Vanderbilt had distributed a revised budget that shows some overdrawn accounts . the Board discussed these and made the following transfers : GENERAL FUND A ADJUSTMENTS Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following transfers; Transfer to accounts in the amounts of : A1010 . 04 $ 6 . A1110 .04 50 . A1220 . 04 11. A1620 .04 163 . Transfer from: A6772 . 04 $ 230 . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted PART TOWN B FUND ADJUSTMENTS Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following transfers : Transfer to accounts in the amounts of : 8341010 .04 $ 20 . 83620 . 04 11 . B8010 .04 41 . Transfer from: B1990 .04 $ 72 . Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Curtis aye W Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover & Mr. Curtis the enemannei n: Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting • 1/18/92 following : • RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses transfer $15, 000 from account A5132 . 02 to General Fund Capital Projects Reserve . Mr . Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye • Mr. Curtis aye Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following : RESOLVED; that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses transfer $15 , 000 from the DA fund balance to A5031 Interfund Transfer . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted Mr . Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following: RESOLVED; that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses transfer $3 , 000 from B8020 .04 to B Fund Capital Reserve. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye • Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye . Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted Mr . Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz the following: RESOLVED; that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses transfer the $6, 595 incumbered funds back to B • fund balance. Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz the following: RESOLVED; that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses transfer from the following; DA5130 . 01 $ 2 ,000 . DA5130 . 02 18 ,000 . DA5130 .04 20 ,000 . for a total of $40 ,000 to the Highway • 1f • 3l Y..: 1 . `y r.. ri"t.t'; .,, 4yf ; 1c' r. ., ; 3' .� a $ Town of Ulysses 3 I' Special Board Meeting ' 1/18/92 Equipment/Capital Reserve. Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. The Board discussed transferring additional DA fund balances into the General A Fund Capital Reserve account to fix up the Town building. Mrs . Vanderbilt suggested that not be done until the time you have to appropriate. The Board discussed the matter of the fuel tanks that the highway - may need to purchase. If this needs to be done they can just appropriate those funds from the Reserve when needed. BONDING - PUBLIC OFFICIALS BOND Mr . Hogan had checked with Farrell/Messier Agency in reference to the Town ' s Public Official ' s Bond. In the past the Supervisor and Deputy Supervisor have been bonded for $50 ,000 and he checked to see what the price would be to have this raised to either $200 ,000 or $300 ,000 . Mr . Hogan read the list furnished by Farrell 's office. . Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby to enter into the Public Officials Bond for what would bond the Supervisor and Deputy for the $200 ,000 at a cost of $1 ,059 to the Town. The Board continued to discuss this and had some further •• . questions that they would like answered. Mr . Hogan will check with Farrell 's office. Mr. Hogan withdrew his motion. Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz to table this matter until these questions can be answered. Unanimously approved. • AUBLE RECONSIDERATION • George Schlecht said he had met with the County concerning the . 239 LM. . . feels it should be done again. . Mr . Curtis said he had never heard of a reconsideration of a 239 • LM; knows of no municipal law that would trigger that . Mr . Schlecht said the first line was very ambiguous , didn ' t make • a recommendation one way or the other . Had a verbal clarification; but was very clear they weren' t up-to-date. . .Mr. Curtis said you are saying they sent up a 239 opinion that was so vague you couldn' t figure it out and then they later on said that was finding a negative impact , and now what they are doing is • verbally clarifying it to a positive. . . that they are saying they are accepting the project? I think we are off in a pretty tricky • area, any body could challenge it . Mr . Schlecht said he doesn' t say that . . .think that some aspects of the project have changed enough so that their review can be reversed. Mr . Rachun said that the original project was for a zoning change of 38 acres with a site plan to be used as a concept plan and the request today is for 22 acres and the framework of the site plan is such that if there is a significant change within that site . plan it has to be very clear. . . . the project is then subject to further review. . . . if it 's approved in context today . I think • there is a significant change where the 239 would not be applicable [the original 239 would not be applicable] ; . . .Mr . • °1 Town of Ulysses 4 Special Board Meeting 3 /10/92 Curtis said . . . but the original SEQR is . . . Mr . Rachun said that is still up for judgement, in my opinion it ' s not 100% clear yet . The County is looking at it and the Town Board is maintaining a negative judgement on it . Mr . Schlecht said that all of the changes that have been made; have mitigated those concerns . Think that if the previous • project merited a negative declaration then this does because it ' s less aggressive than the original proposal . That might mean administratively that a negative declaration might want to be made, that is something that Jim Hansen is thinking about and might make a recommendation to the Town' s attorney. Mr . Curtis said the thing that is confusing is the whole idea of reconsideration. . .Mr . Schlecht said why not , before it was 35 "r? acres and now it 's 23 acres . Mr . Reitz asked what reconsideration Mr. Curtis was talking about . . .Mr. Curtis said that is what get confusing to him, the thing he looked at before was 23 acres ; there was a proposal way back that was 35 and the SEQR was on 23 . . .Mr. Rachun said the SEQR was on 35 with a recommendation that it be approved on the condition that it be 23 acres . Mr. Curtis said that now it is still 23 is that correct? Mr . Rachun said correct . • Mr . Rachun continued. . . the developers never varied from 35 acres , that was their request , it was never changed. The Town Board denied the request . Now they are coming back with a request for change to 23 acres with a site plan. The negative declaration that I worked on, for the original project , was predicated on the fact that if site plan was in place that a negative declaration would be in order. That night we voted down site plan review also and that is where I had a concern with a negative declaration on the SEQR that was done. Now, with a very well delineated site plan review process for this project , I think we are back in a situation where the SEQR and a negative declaration can be considered viable. Mr . Curtis said the SEQR is viable then in terms of reviewing the impact of the actual building, is that what you are saying? Mr. Rachun said Yes , it would be on a process basis . . .we were doing the initial SEQR on change of zoning. Now we are reviewing more of it up front , yes, you are reviewing the site plan up front . Any variation from that site plan would have to go to further review. Mr. Curtis said then that part hasn' t been reviewed for SEQR yet? Mr . Rachun said it has and it hasn' t . . . the developer has done a traffic study on this, it doesn' t add up to the one done by the County, but there may have been some flaws here on the County side. Mr . Curtis said this isn' t a matter that is resolved between the developer and the County. Mr. Rachun said that is questionable, the 239 is a discretionary action. Mr . Schlecht explained the process the developers have gone through first with the 35 acres and then reduced to 23 acres , which is what would actually be developed. Further explained why the plan was changed to only deal with 23 acres and why the request was changed. The map and description you now have was really generated after the agreement to reduce the area. We are rezoning the 23 acres . This map is a map of the area to be rezoned, the description you have is an actual description. Would like to take a minute. . . this draft regulation is really where we stand, the concept really outlines where we stand now. Basically it allows all the uses that are presently allowed in the residential area plus the enumerated listing which in large measure came right out of the business zone with a few items excluded. Specifically excludes some other items and then gets into site plan requirements . Prior to the issuance of the first h S • Town of Ulysses 5 Special Board Meeting 1/18/92 building permit or any building permit , I have to prepare what I call in here a development plan. That development plan will be a • series of documents including a site plan , landscaping plan, etc . , an architectural rendering showing the theme of the development . As I perceive it , the detail of those documents • will not be substantively different from what you have before you, but presumably will incorporate whatever requests come out of these meetings plus whatever comes out of the public meeting . This is addressing why not do it now. . . I think we have, but what I perceive is that there are going to be changes requested. • These changes that come out of those meetings will get incorporated in this revised package that will be called the • development plan. I assume that it will have elevations , certain specifications; all of which will be discussed. Now when that is in place and you have approved that Alex now has a package of documents , so when we request the building permit , Alex will request a plan which he will hold up against this development plan, and if it 's in agreement will issue a permit . If it 's not • in agreement , he won' t issue a permit and it will go back to the Town Board. Mr . Curtis said that the thing that bothers him the most is that this is close to dealing with a PUD. You [Alex] are saying this gives a little more flexibility, seems like in return for that we are going way out on a legal limb. . . seems to me it ' s conditional zoning . . . all information I ' ve gotten on that . . . it ' s an area I don' t understand. Mr . Rachun said the heading I put on the thing . . . it is not conditional zoning. . .we are calling it a whole new zone in the zoning ordinance, the Town has every right to do • that , it 's a legislative action. We've gone through this before. . . can call it anything we want . • Mr . Curtis, said we are laying ourselves wide open. . .Mr. Rachun said we would be doing that with a PUD. • Mr . Hogan said that discussion regarding this has gone on for a couple of years and through all that discussion have created a plan that we feel is worthwhile . • Mr . Rachun stated that the Town Attorney has advised the Town Board that he felt that a new SEQR was not necessary . . . this is his interpretation not Mr . Rachun' s . Says we have to address all issues of SEQR and make a good faith attempt in the study . The fact that we are making this much more site specific than the original SEQR document was looking at , the restrictions would mean that it would be more in line with the SEQR negative • declaration, with the exception of maybe the drainage; we would have to have the map. The topo has changed, George, since the last SEQR was done, think you are aware of that . Do want to make perfectly clear that if this development plan, if approved, if the applicant comes in and they are putting something in that falls within the development plan, then the zoning officer makes a judgement call and issues a permit . Do want to make it clear that it isn' t just the size of or the building, but the activity . Should state something like an architectural rendering . Mr. Hogan said that we have made changes that aren' t reflected in this document . Mr . Schlecht said that will have to be done prior to the public hearing. Where that will show up is under development plan. Mr . Hogan said he just wanted to be sure they [developers] have the same list as the Town has . Mr . Rachun said that he thinks George is looking for some feedback on a time schedule . . . . if we are going to do a new SEQR document we are talking about thirty days . Can contact the County and attorney and see where we are with that ; somewhere • down the line they will want to see a public hearing. Need topos, and also address our zoning ordinance, which is out- Town of Ulysses 6 Special Board Meeting 1/18/92 dated. After some further discussion it was agreed to meet on Monday, January 27 , 1992 at 7 :00PM. . .will then decide what to do next , what is needed. Mr . Reitz stated that the Joint Youth Commission met , looked at monies available from Village and Town; the Village is anticipating a 5% increase. Lump sum [total Town and Village • Youth and some County] proposal is $2 , 556 . DARE; $20 , 350 . UYU; $2 ,175 . Library; $142 . Youth Forum. . . .Total of $25, 225 . 00 . Decided this year, although summer jobs are important , it only benefited seven youths . . . so they have been eliminated. This is youth development money only. Under Summer Recreation we are requesting $3 ,500 . from the Town. Most of the money for summer +' recreation comes from the Village and the balance of some seventeen thousand will come from them. Mr. Reitz moved the following resolution, seconded by Mr. Hogan: RESOLVED: that the Town Board, Town of Ulysses approve the following allocations for Youth Developmental Programs : DARE $2 , 556. ; UYU $20, 350 . ; Library $2,175 . ; Youth Forum $142 . , for a total of $25 , 225 .00 . Summer Recreation, Town responsibility will be $3 , 500 . 00 . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved by Mrs . Stover, seconded by Mr . Weatherby. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 1 : 05PM. II Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia pm 11 . TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING January 27 , 1992 • Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Robert Weatherby , Thomas Reitz , Ben Curtis , Catherine Stover; Zoning/Bldg . Inspector Alex Rachun; Deputy Clerk Paula • Mount . • Others Present : Dave Auble, George Schlecht . Purpose : Auble Rezoning Mr . Hogan called the Special Meeting of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7 : 10PM. Meeting tonight to go over all the information we have and decide what we want to do with the project . Here to have a quick, concise meeting to determine where we want to go with the Auble project and how we want to go about it . At our last Board meeting we had a revised concept plan and literature accompanying that which discussed specifics . Mr . Reitz said it 's as you say, have to go back to understanding where we are going . Think we have gone away from conditional zoning into a rezoning district in the Town. . . am I correct about that? Mr. Rachun said he thinks it 's a wonderfully healthy way to go. . .go to a new zone . . . a change of zoning as opposed to conditional zoning. Think in terms of leg work there isn' t a lot of differc.ice but it will make it easier in the long run for both the developer and the Town; get away from deed covenants and such. Do feel that it will end up being for that area as opposed to a generic change of zoning for various other areas . Mr. Curtis said if you take a broader look at the whole Town and a particular new type of zone and it does fit a few other places , would take a little curse off spot zoning one area. • Mr . Hogan said what we are looking at is the concept plan with a set of conditions that kind of mirror site plan review specifications . How do the rest of you feel . . .do you feel this is a good way to go? Mr . Curtis said I can tell you I have a real problem with conditional zoning, seems like we are on shaky ground. Mr. Reitz said thing that the recent opinion from TC Planning Board is important also; there are other concerns raised about • conditional zoning. . . limited flexibility. In favor of rezoning, one which would include business and industry. Mr. Curtis said he would like to see the Board go about this rezoning in a more traditional way; would like to see some • pressure or deadlines on our Planning Board and Master Plan Committee and have the plan emerge from that and then have this Board review it as part of a comprehensive plan. Mr. Hogan said it is going to be a long time until the Master Plan Committee has their plan wrapped up. Mr. Curtis said think we have been here meeting fairly intensely • about this thing; think if the Master Plan Committee and Planning Board had some sense that they were doing something that was leading to a result•. . .what I heard from them. . . they felt they were out there wasting their time. Am wondering if they knew what we were doing and asked it to come from them in a period of two months or some period of time, maybe they would meet often • 1) Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 because they would have a specific job. We would give them more specific direction. . . that we are concerned about the tax base, a • proposal has been made and challenged on the basis that it is • spot zoning , it ' s their job to come up with a plan . . . if we could get it in 60 days , that ' s what we want . Mr . Hogan said he doesn' t think there is any way that we' ll get anything in sixty days . Mrs . Stover said she has worked with these committees , serves on Master Plan, what is involved, there would be no way to get any thing done in sixty days . Mr . Curtis said we can tell them to get it in the best they can. Mr . Rachun said look at it another way . . .my feeling is that we shouldn' t tie it in at this point to any other area . . .but there has been a lot of leg work carried out in this particular area, an area of the Town where no one, that I 'm aware of on the Planning Board has vocalized opposition to this area being • developed in some way . Even aside from that , it is somewhat site • specific. . . you' re not going to take this document and say this is our new B2/Industrial and give it to some other geographical area because it wouldn ' t work. There are certain. . . even landscaping schemes that are site specific, the lay out referred to is site specific, so another way of possibly attempting this is to proceed along with this and if it turns out to be a target that the Town feels pleased with and goes ahead and passes it and it works out , then perhaps use it at a prototype for other areas in • the community that should be rezoned in this fashion. I sympathize 100% with what Ben Curtis is saying, because that ' s the logical way to do business in terms of Town Planning . The problem is the logistics of what we've got . The Master Plan Committee , to be a little unfair , was a little bit of an afterthought . . . it was a group that was put together because of residue from the amount of people who applied for the Planning Board and our Supervisor said, hey we have some good brain matter here, let ' s put it to work . It was put together on something less than a mission, they are saying there is no guidance but maybe the Town Board doesn' t really know how to guide them in this particular instance, but until that happens , it may be unfair down the line to wait two years, or however long it ' s going to take the Master Plan Committee, to come up with something when proceeding like we are, have focused in on a lot of the questions and a tremendous amount of time has been spent by a lot of people other than the Planning Board. Mr . Hogan said he is in favor of Mr. Rachun's recommendations . Take a look at this , rezone it . Let the Master Plan Committee tell us what they want to do with the rest of the Town when they finish their deliberations . Mr . Reitz stated that this information should be forwarded to our Planning Board for a review and feedback . There is no jurisdictional matter they have to decide on, just their thoughts . Mr . Hogan said we should get the document where we want it first and then have the Planning Board look at it . Feel we have been working on this for two years , been kicked around for ten years , have spent too much time and money. . .want to get it resolved. Let 's do what we think is the right thing and get on with it . Mr. Curtis stated that he thinks it has taken a long time, don' t think that is necessarily . . . think there are a lot of problems on both sides of this question . Different ideas have been approached. Right now as I go through it and raise questions 1. • • f A. Town of Ulysses 3 Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 • about traffic and drainage , etc . , still feel the application is not as complete as I would like to see it . Moving away from that , in terms of rezoning various areas , I can see creating a B2 zone and looking for places where it might be in the interest of the Town to attract some commercial development and diversify the • tax base; don' t see that as at all inconsistent with treating this plan in a special way . . . if you use a special permit process • you can have a B2 zone in which the uses are permitted with a special permit . To that special permit you can attach every single condition you' ve got in there. And anyone else who came in down the road you would do the same thing . • Mr . Rachun said the only problem with that is that we are dealing with a very specific site plan. Mr . Curtis said that is why we would have a special permit . Each site plan you are going to deal with will have it 's own special problem. • Mr . Rachun said that this in no way is considered a completed document . The last meeting that George and Dave and I . . . the topo's are in line, a drainage schematic is in line. . . these are going to have to be done just for the SEQR process . Don' t look at this Ben as the completed. . . .Mr . Curtis said that is just an aside , we are saying that a lot of time has been wasted, what I • am saying is that the application is still incomplete. In terms of rezoning it B2 and using a special permit , that would take all the work that has been done to date and allow us a way to make it legally a condition without going into deed covenants or anything; of just this site and leave the door open for other sites to be handled the same way. . . that ' s the way I understand it . Mr. Rachun said you would have to spell it out; it would almost • be like spelling out site plan review. Because, again, this document is taking liberty to just look at this specific site plan and nothing else. Be it egress , parking, the whole thing , re-evaluation by the Town Board would kick in if there was a variation. . . once there was a variation from the request that is being made, if something was to go in there that was not allowed, but was not listed in here on the site plan, that would have to have special consideration by the Town Board. Mr . Curtis stated that he is still real confused about when the development plan kicks in on that and I can ' t understand that process . Am saying if we just take basically what they seem to be looking for in terms of the conditions , and we say that you • can do all of these things in a B2 zone with a special permit , and then we take the special permit and attach all those conditions to this parcel , then that leaves you freedom down the road, wherever else you have another B2 , and somebody else comes in there, that you use your special permit process to attach • • whatever conditions are important there, and it would only apply to a 82 zone. It wouldn' t apply to the whole Town, like site • plan review. Mr. Rachun said you still would have to specify up front what you are going to allow and not allow. Mr . Curtis said your basic uses . . .would say all these uses are permitted with a special permit . Mr. Reitz said but a Si zone, our present business zone, has special permit process into it also. Mrs . Stover said our present zoning ordinance doesn' t have a B2 , are we legal in doing this without amending the zoning ordinance? Mr . Hogan said that once we hold the public hearing and vote that ' Si i' I. • r.- Ht's .l. t4. _ :.i"d i'yl ..1.' .. „tt'%.e. .. ' • A . Town of Ulysses 4 Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 we want to do this then it will become part of the ordinance. Mr . Rachun said we are changing the ordinance, like we would with a PUD. Will just be creating an amendment to the ordinance . We have twenty zones in our ordinance right now . Mr . Schlecht said after the zone is formed, one of the • requirements of the zone is that the developer has to submit a development plan which will have site plan, landscaping plan , etc . . That has to be done prior to the first building permit being issued and has to be approved by this Board. You will have that plan in front of you, hopefully approve it , at that point it • becomes a binding development plan, which, when the first building goes up , the zoning code enforcement officer will look at the plans for that building, site plans for that building, compare it with the development plan that has been approved, and if in compliance would issue a building permit . If it ' s not , it would mean coming back here. Feel the special permit process [as experienced in Dryden] can be time consuming and difficult . Am willing to spend time up front , have already spent two years, to get something that ' s not final . • Mr . Curtis . . . talking about a couple of months . I 'm not sure I know the answer, think if you look beneath the surface saying a special permit is a deterrent, I 'm not sure I 'd buy that • argument . See using it attracting strong developers . Mr . Rachun said if we have a fairly solid site plan. . .which we do. . . and it is becoming more and more site oriented, and we have • built in to the zone what can and cannot be done there and that is approved by the Town Board and looks good to them, guess the question I would have is . . .what harm would there be to approve that and it goes until they get a tenant , that either somehow, either by activity or by size or by location doesn' t fit in with this concept they have put together, which again has been pretty well orchestrated to the paint where the pieces of the puzzle can be put into place. . .what harm would it be at that point for the developer to come back to the Town Board and ask permission to do that? What I am trying to put together is something, if you look at all the processes we have available to us , rezoning, conditional zoning, PUD, etc . , this may fit in a little closer with a PUD than anything else, but at least allow for the flexibility to have some sort of changes within the scope of what they want to do. If they are allowed 30 thousand square feet and they have a tenant who wants 20 thousand square feet , and an activity that would be acceptable by the site plan, then I 'm not sure whether a special permit should be in order as opposed to if they are allowed 30 thousand square feet and the tenant wants 50 thousand square feet with an activity that may or may not be acceptable. . .Yes , then a special permit may be needed at that point . Mr . Curtis said I am looking at the special permit in a • particular zone as being a tool commonly used that doesn' t fall • prey to charges of spot zoning and can be used throughout the Town as a tool . This would be where we are going from PUD's the next step. Don' t feel comfortable with the next step going to this model , this sort of conditional zone and I think if our only reason for doing this rezoning is concern about the tax base, I I think anybody out there who owns property is open at this point to come in and say 'we may have a commercial development and this is what we need and we'd like to be rezoned' . . . the precedence is there . . , and think we are under a lot of pressure and maybe morally obligated to grant them the same consideration that was granted in this case. Mr . Rachun said we have done that eighteen times , Ben. . . think the . • , . 331 Town of Ulysses 5 Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 history of Planned Unit Development is eighteen to one right now. Mr . Curtis said if they are coming in for a PUD we would be hard put to say we aren' t going to grant PUD' s here. You say you have done it 18 times . . . . Mr . Rachun. . . yes , with one that was site specific situation where we were dealing with one building , one owner . This is totally different approach; just has to be. . . logistics , the amount of space, what 's being asked for. If rezoning does mean that we can ' t be as site specific as this particular document allows us to be, then I would have to say let ' s go with conditional zoning, because rezoning for this project would fall . . . and I know again zoning should come within the comprehensive plan and long-term development of the Town, but I don ' t know whether developers and potential developers who come into this community should have to go through a process of waiting for something that may or may not happen. You are aware that we have a new zoning ordinance. . . this is the forth year that it has not been looked at . . .was put together by a Zoning Ordinance Committee which Mrs . Stover and I • were part of , it 's been out there for four years and I don' t •, think it ' s even been read. . . it was a two and a half year process to put together . Also have gone through the site plan review routine, put all that together, and that fell apart . The point is, where do you end up talking about government helping the community, helping the developer or maybe the developer is the enemy in this case. . . I don' t know . My feeling is that the developer and the community and the people in the community should all work together. Fact of the matter is that we have • something in writing with them [developer] now and a few heads have now been turned. Think if you had a public hearing at this point , you aren ' t going to see 500 people out there screaming and yelling against this project . . .not with a 26% increase in our tax hase. Mr. Hogan said and 40% from the County . Think what you guys are talking about is pretty much the same thing . . .but in different • ways . Think we ought to get this resolved right now. Think Ben, you idea is a good idea . . . to look at the rest of the Town and set aside zones for industrial development, commercial , light industry, but think we should work with the Master Plan Committee on that ; and get this issue resolved up there. Mr. Curtis said I would probably agree with you if we had a • proposal to put a Saturn plant or something like that up there . . . if there was some kind of asset for our tax base that we would be adding by doing that , if this was something that was attractive for the Town and we had to move in the next two months or lose it to Danby or something. But I have never seen any indications that there is anything eminent that would be put in up there. Don' t want us to be challenged legally and wind up costing us all a lot of money. Think the problem with doing this one first and then the rest of the Town is once you do this one, that book and everything else is going right back on the shelf ; and two you set the precedent here and that 's how we are going to do the next one. Mr. Hogan said what you are saying, that ' s the old story Ben. . .what came first , the chicken or the egg. This area could be developed, it has a lot of potential ; but it can' t be developed if you don ' t have permission from the Town to go ahead and develop it . Mr. Curtis said but no one has come in and asked me for permission to put anything specific in there. Mr . Auble said going back to the chicken or the egg. . . if we know Town of Ulysses 6 Special Board Meeting 9 January 27 , 1992 • we have something in hand to take out to the market place, before spending the time or money to go out and attempt to bring in types of business that we feel are out there; we have already • missed several building seasons because of bureaucratic delays that have taken place and now we' re talking about possibly missing another building season; now is the time we should be out in the market place, prior to the building season. To us every day counts , urgency is important to us . We are paying taxes on property that is sitting there unused . The Town is doing without I. a higher tax levy as long as nothing is happening there, and so I think there is urgency here from that standpoint . We are helpless at this point , we are just spinning our wheels , because of lack of any kind of approval . Mr. Hogan, to Mr . Curtis . . . you are saying that they don ' t have a commitment from an IBM or Saturn, or whoever, OK, but they do have this plan that has cost them money to put together , that • says here is what they want to put in here. . . retail establishments , business offices , or light industry. . . this is what they want to do, so this is a concept . . . this is what they want to do . They don' t have tenants signed up yet , but if they can' t get approval to do this then they can' t get the tenants to sign saying they want to come in there. Have to have approval to do that . So what came first , the chicken or the egg? Mr . Auble said they don' t have a package to go out to the market with. Mr . Hogan said I 'm not here to defend the developer or anybody else. What I am saying is when we sat there and struggled with the budget this year, revenues are down, expenditures are up, we need some extra tax base . An awful lot of people at the last public hearing agreed that we need some extra tax base to give the property owners plus the farmers in Town a break, plus the fact it won' t hurt to create some new jobs around here. Mrs . Stover said we don' t have anyone else knocking on our door . • • Mr . Rachun said I think in your wildest dreams right now Ben, Saturn would be knocking on anyone's door to be putting a plant up . Think in today 's environment , maybe not in the Village of Lansing which seems to be a mecca for this sort of thing , anything outside of that . . . there are Towns that are spending a good portion of their budget trying to drum up business and Towns that are dying . This is a concept plan, an architectural rendition, the site plan, everything right here . . . these guys go out and even if they get something that doesn' t fit in, they are right back in here for a special permit . If they want a scrap and salvage yard. . . can' t do; want a raceway , can' t do. . .but if they want to put in retail , commercial , light industry, then they can show these people. . .we' ve got this , this is a great place to live, come and take a look at it . . . that sort of thing . Don' t think anybody is going to be knocking on doors lately . . . in my office haven' t experienced in the last five years anyone calling about the Town of Ulysses . Mr. Curtis to Mr . Rachun. . . think I agree with you, and think that is why I say I don' t see your intense urgency, in order to allow a business to be built here. . . looking around me, looking at the economy at the County and everywhere else. . . just don' t see people lined up . Mr . Hogan. . . as I see it Ben, it is giving the people the opportunity to do something . if they don' t get it done then it is their problem, they have money invested in this thing . If we say to them, here is the opportunity, we are going to rezone this , if you want to go with it , it ' s your baby; we' re not going :, 4. , '?T - '� �. •<.. e,0�� til,:!; ,-i, `'-. .' -mot • Town of Ulysses 7 ,!;' Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 i. i to hold up the process . . Mr . Weatherby . . . as long as they follow our rules and regulations . r Mr . Rachun. . . they may be able to work wonders and find someone out there , they may have that ability , that ' s not our business . • Mr . Curtis asked if they have a pretty good track record for doing that? • Mr . Rachun said I have no idea, no idea whatsoever . • • • Mr . Curtis said the thing is that anybody who comes in here, and they have a piece of land and they think they may be able to get some commercial business there; if I understand you correctly , ` Bill , then we ought to rezone their land and give them a shot at it . Mr. Hogan. . .not necessarily Ben, we would take a look at it like • we have with this request . Have been looking at this one for two years . I am convinced that that is a likely place for a ` development of this kind. • Mr. Curtis . . . based on what . Mr . Rachun. . .based on location, the satellite concept of development that we had that the Master Plan talks about and the Planning Board talked about , based on the fact of the availability of public water is there, based on the fact that the topography, access to a major route allows for the kind of • • development that would be much better suited than some by-road or I off-road that wouldn' t attract anyone and based on the fact that it is within walking distance to the Village. Mr . Curtis said we have commercial property here that sits empty, we have commercial property that sits undeveloped; not saying you have to run out and do a market study but in taking a look around me, I just don' t see it . Talking to business and others in Town, • a lot of people don' t see it . That 's why I don' t think the urgency is there. Mr. Auble said that I had a successful retail developer in here last year when I first started with the project , they said if we had the approvals they would go with it right now, they were ready and starting out with one hundred thousand square foot of retail set-up. I have all the correspondence with these • people . . . we don' t divulge all of our business activities to the ' public and to the Board . . . that ' s internal material . . .but that is the kind of proof that we feel is necessary to let us know there is a demand for that site, with a use for that site, . . .Mr. Curtis • said certainly reviewing something like that would give us a better idea . . .Mr . Auble continued. . and we have obviously , I would . say forty, fifty thousand or more tied up in just the ongoing - approval process here, which obviously is a big gamble on the owners part . . . that wouldn' t be on-going if there wasn' t a feeling of strong confidence that this will over time be developed per • I our plan; or some close resemblance of that . Mr . Rachun to Mr . Curtis . . . one of the things I guess I am not really understanding well , you had expressed your concern about site plan review for the Town. . .Townwide Site Plan Review. . .yet for this particular zone, a new zone which at this point now is pretty much site specific, you really want to lock in that process , whether it ' s this developer or this development I 'm not _ . sure, but I don' t know why. . .my feeling earlier on was site plan review would be a good mechanism for the whole Town and there was lieri Town of Ulysses 0 Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 a lot of argument against that , which made a lot of sense also. I was certainly willing to look at that , my personal feelings have changed to some extent about site plan review although I still basically believe in it . But here we have a package that has a site plan review that is far stronger than what we put together , the Planning Board and myself , for review to put up for the public hearing and to vote. It seems to be not strong enough for you at this point . . . I don' t understand. . . these guys cannot do some of the things that would either visually or in noise , or II ' , highly impact this community . . . impact it negatively . They certainly could put something in that ' s going to impact a couple of businesses down here [Village] negatively, I don' t disagree with that . There ' s a new CVS pharmacy going in that will do damage down here and I agree with that , but we have commercial property elsewhere that can be developed in a much looser framework than this , and my feeling is that we have this document 4= together and these guys work with it , we have what looks to be a pretty nifty development , that may answer some questions as far as bringing in some industrial , commercial office space, retail space, in a way that we have some guarantees about how it ' s going to be or act or look. We have two and a half miles of commercial space down the road that we have no guarantees of what 's going to go there, can be anything or everything . Mr . Curtis said we' ll continue to have that two and a half miles , and we have had a little bit of development there, some of it local , but we certainly haven' t have the influx of interest in • developing that land commercially . Mr . Rachun said there isn' t water there and also most of that land now has houses , there are a couple of fields that don' t have houses , is kind of an illogical commercial zone because it ' s all been filled up with houses . Those houses could all of a sudden turn into businesses , like Golden Novelties , but the properties • don' t lend themselves to that . Mr . Hogan asked how the rest of the Board feels about this; have heard from Ben and Alex . Mrs . Stover said she thinks the Board should proceed and look at what we have and what we want to do with it . Mr . Reitz stated that he feels rezoning is appropriate using their concept plan and site plan review. Mr . Weatherby stated that he tends to agree with Mr . Reitz . Mr . Hogan stated that he thinks Mr. Curtis has some good ideas , thinks the majority of the Board want ' s to continue with this process now and try to define what it is . . . as Alex says we have a pretty good package in front of us , take a look at it , make some changes and give it to our attorney first , ask him to review it and then ask the Planning Board to spend a couple of weeks and review it and then get on with it . Mr . Curtis suggested having the Planning Board review the document prior to sending it to the attorney. Mr . Rachun said we have some free services in government that we can use too. Agree that our attorney needs to look at it before it is voted on, but would like to use Association of Town's attorneys . . . it ' s a free service. Mr . Hogan reviewed changes made as of the December 16 , 1991 meeting [see Auble file] . Mr. Rachun said that all changes have not been completed. . . even though you have gone through the entire document you did talk about going back and finalizing certain . 1. Town of Ulysses 9 • Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 • areas . Mr . Reitz asked if that shouldn' t be part of the site plan, more . than the specifics of the rezoning? Mr. Weatherby said you keep talking about site plan review; this • is what they are proposing? Mr . Rachun said this is what they ® are proposing but the Town Board is determining what they want and don' t want . rt Mr . Rachun said more importantly we should talk about if we are r- . • going to do SEQR again . Mr . Schlecht referred the Board to the three page document titled Business District II (B2 ) that he and Mr . Rachun compiled. Specifically what it says is as a requirement of this new B2 zone the developer has to come up with a "development plan" and the development plan will be in general conformity with the concept plan, the concept elevations and will be in conformity with the deed restrictions and conditions proposed by Guy Krogh, dated 12/12/91 . Presumably that will be changed to read 'deed ' restrictions and conditions proposed by Guy Krogh dated 12/12/91 and revised 1/23/92 . That gives you coherent requirements in the zone . This document is the basis that the site plan must conform to. Discussion took place regarding item 'h' on the draft regulations of Business District . Wording was changed to 'Vehicle rental E related service areas ' . Mr. Rachun explained that this would then allow a business such as Avis Rental Car to service their • vehicles , but would not allow a gas station with service area. • • Item 'd' was also discussed. . .14r . Curtis asked if the Board ® wanted to cut out fast food pick-up window? Could be a real traffic headache . Mr. Weatherby said this was discussed before and was stated that if that happened it would happen internally within the project , so I don' t see that as a problem. Mr. Auble said that the way this thing is designed everything is internal , • there is buffer all around the perimeter. No change made. . Mr . Rachun said let 's talk about SEQR. County Planning thinks we . should do SEQR again, they are, to some extent , an advisory agency as opposed to an involved agency . However, our lawyer feels that that may be counter productive . Personally feel that there are enough changes in the document we are looking at now that we can make a clean attempt at SEQR providing that the developer provides us with the drainage schematic and topo's . Personally feel that we can come out with a negative declaration without environmental impact statement , but that is up to the Board, you are the lead agency . Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Rachun if he felt that it should be redone? • Mr. Rachun said yes; if someone is out there that wants to stop this project . . . the only Article 78 they can hit you with at this point , especially if it is a rezoning, is with SEQR process . They can ' t do an Article 78 on rezoning. Mr . Weatherby said you know the question will come up at a public I hearing; think it should be done. Mr . Hogan said to Mr . Rachun. . .you do have a lot of the information already . Mr . Rachun said Yes . Will have to reintroduce it back to the Village . We are acting alone on this , don' t think there are any L. other involved agencies . di Town of Ulysses 10 • Special Board Meeting • January 27 , 1992 • Mr . Curtis said if we are moving ahead on the basis that the advantage of this parcel is that we have municipal utilities , water and sewer , isn' t that why . . . .Mr . Rachun said that is one reason . Mr . Curtis continued . . .but this is a factor, doesn' t that really make the Village an involved party and shouldn' t they answer decisively in this part of the process whether the sewer • is there , if it ' s going to cost money , the same with water , instead of saying , well they have to do it whether they want to or not . Mr . Rachun said if they would be kind enough to answer that then we could process that . Mr . Curtis asked . . . kind enough to ask for what? Mr. Rachun said the developer would be kind enough to say that they want to use the water and sewer, but they are under the assumption that this is a project that ' s , to them ongoing, whether they have to drill a well and put in private septic or use the water and sewer . Mr . Curtis asked if they were going to have a statement from the Health Department about the septic? Mr. Schlecht said for a rezoning request? To build, yes . Mr . Rachun said that is like issuing a building permit , that is a routine permit process . If they had to be their own municipal sewage managers, then yes , DEC would be involved with it then . • But they aren' t asking for that . Mr . Hogan said the way I see this thing, we want to create a new business zone, on the basis that that is a good place for one up there. We have a developer who is interested; now what that developer does . . . we have this map that tells us what he is going to do with the buildings , etc. What he does with water and sewer is not our problem. Mr . Curtis said we don' t have any decision at all? Mr . Hogan said No, don' t think so . . .don 't care where he II gets his water . If he's going to put up some nice buildings and increase the tax base, I don' t care if he pumps it from Lake Ontario. Mr . Curtis . . .my question Bill is, I don' t want to beat a dead horse, but if that ' s the case , there is nothing special about that parcel , really, that we don' t have two miles down the road. . I think we have to take into account , think we've said it enough times , that if the Village is going to provide the water and sewer, that ' s why they want that . . . Mr . Hogan said I don' t know that the Village is going to provide the water and sewer . Mr . Rachun said I think that legally they have to provide them with water. . .don' t know about sewer . Mr . Reitz said the thing we should be concerned about is drainage off the parking lot . Mr . Hogan said we have talked about that , that is why we have to do SEQR. Mr . Rachun said I think it ' s a question of if it 's a SPDES permit II • or if they become their own municipal water district or sewage handler, then it becomes a DEC issue and they become an involved agency in the SEQR process . If they have this site plan, and the site plan again is not a PUD, it ' s not subject to absolute, they • can have a building with activity that uses fifty gallons of water a day or one that uses fifty thousand gallons a day and that ' s going to make all the difference in the world depending on what SEQR process is going to go through with DEC, whether it • • s its Town of Ulysses 11 Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 does become a SPDES permit or not . Think in that case then it may be a totally separate issue , may be SEQR involved in that . Can ' t go to the County and ask them to review thin when we don' t know what is going in . . ,don' t know usage. Think SEQR sets those guidelines , you can only review what you can look at . Mr . Curtis said I think the Health Department business is a bit of a diversion and I suspect that everybody involved is thinking • in terms of Village water and sewer and guess what I 'm saying is I think that in whatever capacity the Village should be involved in the SEQR review . • Mr . Rachun said to Mr . Hogan. . . as lead agency you will have to make that decision, whether they are an involved or advisory agency . Mr . Curtis asked how the lead agent makes the decision. Mr . Rachun said the lead agent has to look at whether there is a discretionary action taking place . If the Town Board is the only board that has discretionary action to take , then they are the only one. Mr . Curtis said he understands that , but not sure it ' s their decision to make. Mr . Rachun said by law they make that decision . They are suppose to round up either the advisory or involved agencies . Mr . Curtis said somebody rounds up the involved parties and then they decide who the lead agent is . Mr . Rachun asked . . .who is somebody? Mr . Curtis said whoever initiates the action. Mr . Weatherby said unless the developer tells you otherwise, you have to proceed with the SEQR as if they would be using their own water and sewer . Mr . Rachun said Yes , they do Part I of SEQR. If they submit that and don ' t tell us they are using Village water and sewer then we can assume till the cows come home. If they do tap in then the • SEQR action would go on and they would be lead agency and we • probably wouldn' t even be involved . Mr. Curtis said timing around all the technicalities , seems there is a value in trying to work through this with the Village . That ' s my personal feeling . Mr . Rachun said can' t tell you how many meetings we' ve had with the Village . Mr. Auble said we have been talking about this for over eighteen • months now, haven' t seen anything to indicate any value . , . , Mr. Curtis said he isn' t talking about putting the developers through that again, suggesting that the Town work with the Village on this . Mr . Weatherby said the problem with the Town working with the • Village on this is perhaps the developers aren ' t going to apply for the water . Mr . Reitz said maybe the Town is going to create a water and sewer district . Mr . Weatherby said am wondering if the developer is willing to say whether they are going to ask the Village or not . Mr . Rachun said when we got all the information from these people I did do a shotgun mailing, as the technician for the Town , who should be involved in SEQR and County Planning felt that the Town Board should be lead agent , since they have the biggest • i .s 1' ,. — .� . t , •I °:.s �i.r i. . s f . ,. Deb. n .. . . , 4• ' .. 1: q t7 -e. it;i.. . .nt .. si...) Town of Ulysses 12 Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 discretionary action. Beyond County Planning and the Town Board, • you start looking at this thing, we did a mailing to Covert , t , Village, Seneca County . . . get right down to it there isn' t any • other discretionary action being taken . We are talking about rezoning as it is right now. As far as a municipal water - district is concerned, really isn' t in the play right now . The Village hasn' t offered it , the developers haven' t asked for it , yet . The Village will be getting, as a curtesy and an advisory agency, all this information. But as an involved agency , don' t know how you can make that leap to say , well this is a project that is certainly going to require municipal water and sewer from the Village so we are and if they became an involved agency , what could they look at really. . . .mean other than the fact that this site plan is there. . . . Mr . Curtis said for one thing they might address once and for all in an official capacity, whether or not sewage is there, water is ., there, if it 's going to require fifty or a hundred thousand . dollar addition to the sewer plant ; what impact that has and if . they have the reserve capacity . Mr . Rachun said aren ' t they going to have to know what is going ' on there before they could ask those questions? Mr . Curtis said thought we were talking about build-out . Mr . Rachun said say we had a build-out of all retail and light • industry that used no water. . . say we had a build-out of one of those buildings , say a gymnasium or a health center, another one was a processing area that uses a tremendous amount of water. . . I think when that comes about , then think the Village or whoever is going to tap in or use the water, then the Village is going to do their SEQR. Mr . Curtis said we could just not break it up and do it in steps , is that what you are saying? Mr . Rachun said you are talking about segmentation; I don' t think this is segmentation, I think that down the line there is going . to be another question asked. The SEQR that we are asking for is not the same as the SEQR they are asking for . The SEQR the Village is asking for . . .we don' t have a water district so we can ' t ask for that; but I think in Village law, if a certain ' amount of water is being used, new water is being used , then they . have to do a SEQR. When a certain amount of capacity is being . reached on the sewer they have to do a SEQR. We don ' t have that • because we don' t have the district . The Village asks for SEQR on subdivisions, on a much more limited basis than we do here and SEQR on land clearing on a limited basis than we do. . .so they aren' t entirely intermeshed. I don' t think it 's segmentation in that respect . Think once they come in and want to do something and they ask the Village for water, then the Village will have to sit down and say OK, we have to go through SEQR process . If they don' t do that and they put a building up and just want a permit from the Health Dept . , that 's a routine permit. . . if they want more than that , a SPDES permit , then all of a sudden it 's back to DEC with another SEQR process . I don ' t think that 's segmentation. Mr. Curtis . . .no, I 'm just saying that my view is that the Village is deeply involved in this , if we can bring them on board, I think it ' s going to be worthwhile and I know there has been a bad -- history ; personally think it' s worth taking another shot at it . Mr . Hogan said we have a joint meeting scheduled with the Village on February 24th. Mr . Rachun said let ' s get this document to them so they can look at it and we' ll get SEQR as quickly as possible and sit down and talk to the Village about it . Keep in x' S if Town of Ulysses 13 Special Board Meeting January 27 , 1992 • mind as lead agency , really don' t see where, you would make them • an involved agency . A Mr . Weatherby said you are just giving the Village thin document as a curtesy then? Mr . Rachun said Yes . They certainly are an interested agency . . .we have to advise them what is going on . If they were an involved agency and they said Nix, then it goes to an environmental impact statement , because one of the involved r agencies is saying an impact statement is needed . An an ; : interested agency, they can strongly urge you to do in that direction, but you can take that as advice, Mr . Rachun continued. . .County Planning has already sent back a positive on 239 . . . Mr . Curtis said are you talking about the thing dated January 21st? • Mr . Rachun said they strongly urge us to do another SEQR . Mr . Curtis said how did this get to the County . . .we haven' t even ' decided on the plan yet . . . really surprised to find it in my box . • Some discussion ensued as to who had sent the information to the County . . . some assumed the Town Clerk , others assumed the developers . Mrs . Stover said regarding SEQR, feels would solve problems down the road to re-do it now. Mr . Hogan agreed . Asked Mr . Rachun how long it would take. Mr . Rachun said we have to receive information from the e developers; from that point we have to process Part II , you are going to have to approve Part II as lead agency and once that 's done and you say it ' s OK, then off it goes to the interested parties and then it ' s a thirty day process from there , for input , and at some point after that we will have a public hearing on this project , but if you so deem a negative declaration , then there isn' t any public hearing on SEQR process . • Mr. Weatherby said you are saying then, that we can ' t really go ahead and set up a date for a public hearing . Mr . Rachun said think you ought to do, the day of the public hearing , the first • part of that public hearing use in a good faith measure, if you decide to go with a negative declaration, is to make that declaration on the day of the public hearing . Mr . Curtis to Mr . Rachun. . . isn' t it common to have the public , hearing and do the SEQR afterwards , just on the basis that people come in and raise issues that we have never thought of . Mr. Rachun said the Town Board has that discretion. Mr . Schlecht said that they could have Part I to Mr . Rachun in a couple of days . Was hoping that the Board was going to come up with a schedule and date for the public hearing . I Discussion took place regarding Part II of SEQR and when to involve the Planning Board. Mr . Rachun said we have nice maps , revised site plan, would have the Board look at Part II as soon as possible and be prepared to discuss it with the Planning Board . • Hearing no further business , Mr. Hogan entertained a request from Mr . Rachun to adjourn to an executive session, moved by Mr . Reitz and Mr . Curtis , seconded by Mr . Weatherby. Unanimously approved - the Special Board Meeting was adjourned at 8 : 55PM. 211/0 Town of Ulysses 14 Special Board Meeting • January 27, 1992 t. Respectfully submitted, Paula Mount, Deputy Clerk • TOWN OF uLYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING February 3 , 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis , Robert Weatherby; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Zoning/Bldg. Inspector Alex Rachun; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Others Present : Doug Austic, Krys Cail , Susan Zimmerman, James Milks , George Schlecht , Bill Savey , Lisa Chase, Beach Stover , Ruth Kahn, Steve Proctor-FreePress, Dick Garner, Jackie Merwin, Marty Petrovich, Joe Scherer, David Auble and others . Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 30PM and led those in • attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. • Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve the following minutes : Special Board Meeting of 12/30/91 , Regular Town Board Meeting of 1/6/92 , Special Budget Meeting of 1/18/92 . Moved by Mrs . Stover, seconded by Mr . Reitz and Mr. Curtis , unanimously approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department No representative. Report: Representative James Mason Mr. Mason attending another meeting. Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #47-79 in the amount of $21,305.37, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Curtis . • Unanimously approved. Supervisor's Financial Report Mr . Hogan distributed copies of the financial report and reviewed. Hearing of Delegations and Individuals James Milks introduced himself and read a letter he sent to the Town Board regarding property tax exemptions for Veterans . The County currently gives this exemption and Mr . Milks appealed to the Ulysses Town Board to consider doing the same . [see letter attached] • Out of seventeen municipalities in Tompkins County only five have not granted the Veteran' s exemption and Ulysses is one . Feels that the effect this exemption would have on the budget would be very small . Mr . Hogan stated that he too is a veteran. Asked what the actual figures would be. This budget was difficult , would need to have facts and figures before making any decision. Mr . Reitz said this issue was considered several years ago. The concern then too was impact on taxes . The Veteran' s counselor then indicated that it would be a very small amount , don' t recall the percentage. Mr . Savey stated that it is a very small amount and asked the Board to find out how many Veteran's would take advantage of this • '• Town of Ulysses 2 • Regular Town Board Meeting February 3, 1992 exemption and the amount it would be before denying this request . • Mr. Milks said this exemption is not a hand-out but a hard earned benefit for Veterans . The financial effect on the Town of Ulysses will be minuscule , the greater impact will be felt by the Town after so many years finally saying Welcome Home to our Veterans , it is long overdue. • Mr . Hogan said we have no idea how much money we are talking III about , perhaps the Assessment Office can help us with numbers . Mr . Savey said that there are some Vets who will not apply for the exemption, let them make that decision. Mr . Milks said to talk about whether the Town can afford it is a disgrace. This is such a small thing that is being asked for the • Veteran and they have earned it . . . it is their right . Mr . Hogan said he has heard it 's a disgrace to cut the budgets of many organizations this year. . . but if the money isn' t there, what can you do. Lot of people who are being taxed out of their houses . Have to say No to some of these requests . It ' s not a • popular position. Mr. Hogan suggested tabling this item until further information is obtained. • Mr . Curtis said that even if this is adopted before the 1st of March, it 's not going to affect people this year. Mr . Savey said that is correct , but will be in place for the next year . Suggested checking with assessment for the figures . Mr. Reitz suggested that the Town Board consider the Veteran' s exemption, but find out more information and moved the following, seconded by Mr . Weatherby : That the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses review the Veteran's Exemption potential policy and make a decision, if possible, by March 1 , 1992 as presented . Mr . Reitz asked Mr . Curtis if he would get the information from Veteran' s Administration regarding how to apply, how many potential candidates in the Town, impact to tax base, etc . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye • Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr . Curtis Aye Adopted . OLD BUSINESS Auble Rezoning Mr . Hogan said that at the last meeting we discussed a couple of • different options on the Auble property; had the option of conditional zoning or the option of setting up a new business district zone with a correction to our zoning laws . Discussed both options at length and felt there would be more flexibility _ in rezoning that property to a new business district with specific regulations which closely mirror many of the regulations found in Site Plan Review. Talked to George Schlecht about redoing SEQR. . .have you had a chance to do that? Mr . Schlecht distributed materials to the Board. Mr . Schlecht asked the Board to change the title page to read Auble Rezoned :I , 'l�r . f �!•�- ;' .t 'r ,< .,t• '•' - �•„ .. .r. r _ r,�:. .. .n:" jai • Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting • February 3 , 1992 • Development . Mr . Schlecht said obviously this is a request for rezoning as Bill stated . Several sections; the first is the EAF • • which we were asked to revise , includes Part I which we have filled out and believe your copies should also have a Park II • which is essentially blank, and is your responsibility to fill out . There haven ' t been any substantial changes in Park I from the previous review that you've done , has been revised to reflect the fact that now we are talking about 23 acres , rather than the • original 35 . Some of the ratios and numbers have changed under the project description . As you look through Part I you' ll see in some places a comment that says ' see attached' . That refers to the second section in Park II , the attachment see Environmental Assessment Form, and in that there were paragraphs • pertaining to explanations . . . that ' s where the form really doesn' t quite fit the project . Again, it ' s essentially the same as what you have had before . Part III is a traffic analysis we ' ve done • and previously submitted to the Town . Says it was revised 1/28/92 so only that we are consistent here, but in fact there were no changes to the numbers because the original proposal was based on 23 acres . All the information Alex asked for is right • in the front . The three developments , storm water flow; the first culvert which is downstream from the prcject , which is that • rather major underpass bridge on the Trumansburg Road is 2142 CFS, which is a very large flow by the way, and the post development flow would be 2150 CFS, a change of about 4/10th's of • one percent . And then the storm water analysis assessment . . . 4/10th' s of one percent flow is virtually • negligible. The culvert itself can handle a flow of 2500 CFS . Mr . Curtis asked if there is a drainage diagram with the plans that indicate the drainage pattern, that have led you to select a particular place . . . there is some question about how the water • would get over to this stream at one point? Mr . Schlecht said the drainage basins themselves are shown in the report that we ' re referring to . We haven' t done detailed • drainage engineering plans showing the culverts , etc . , but that would be done as part of the detailed site plan that would be submitted when the first building permit is requested. Now it will be important when it ' s done that the flow be maintained towards . . .Mr . Curtis asked if it would be going this way [referring to map] . Mr . Schlecht said the flow would have to enter the tributary . . . you can' t divert flow down RT 96 . Mr . Curtis asked if this went over Salo Dr . . . you are talking • about the water going to the stream over at Salo Dr . ? Mr . Schlecht said a portion of the south site could go that way, but not a portion of the site that we ' re referring to . Mr . Curtis said but there ' s a plan somewhere that will give us some idea of how that works? Mr. Schlecht said No , quite honestly there isn' t , but there will be, and that is something that we should be • careful to look at , if the flow is diverted some way or another . • Mr . Reitz asked what would divert the flow; additional development? Mr. Schlecht said if for some reason or another the engineering plan was done in such a way it didn' t take the exit of the flow towards the southwest . Mr. Hogan said if you build the parking lot up high, and it ' s a big parking lot , and you only have one exit for the surface water to drain and it drains out to 96 , with a hard rain storm you could have a problem. Mr . Reitz said or if you build up the area to the immediate south by southwest , with additional houses -- there, it could impact the drainage from the parking lot heading towards Salo Drive. Mr. Hogan said I guess that is all part of the engineering process . Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 • Mr . Schlecht said Sure, anything that was done to that southerly section which is no longer a part of the proposal would have to have an independent look at it . Does that answer your question Ben, don ' t mean to push that off , one of the things that exist here is if somebody diverted this water off this upper acreage to Salo Dr . that would be bad . Mr . Curtis said Yes there are a couple of bad scenarios . . .Mr . Schlecht said there is no reason why that has to happen. Mr . Curtis said I 'm not sure I 'm with you there, but think one of the advantages in my mind, I 'm weighing the advantages of a PUD, is that you'd have the opportunity to look at questions of that sort for each project and give the Town a chance to see it . You know, • • exercise a little more responsibility to those ideas . Mr . Schlecht said I think you are going to have that , the way I see it working, you are going to have that opportunity when the site • plan, the detailed site plan, is done. To do it now is an exercise, I submit , an exercise not necessarily in futility, but • probably in futility, a lot of expense, a lot of man hours . Mr . Hogan asked Alex if this is the way he understands it . Mr . Rachun said given the site and given the build-out , I don' t • understand how this would be an exercise in futility if the • build-out corresponds with the site and this is a fairly accurate rendition of the plan as far as the watershed, would think it an exercise in futility . . .As long as the topos indicated here are post Auble reshaping of the land. Mr . Schlecht said that is the last point I 'd like to make, the topo that we included in the back is existing topography as it is today . We previously submitted one prior to that and if you • compare them you will see some difference. This reflects how it is now, not going to reflect how it is going to be after construction . I can easily draw a line on there and say from this point on, or on the concept plan, and I 'm willing to do this on the concept plan, draw schematically saying take the drainage from here and make sure it goes that way, and I 'm quite willing to do that , that wouldn' t necessarily be a study in futility . But to put the time in drawing all the curbs , pipes , which is really what I 'd have to do if you say I have to do a drainage plan, then I 'm compelled to do that just to maintain my professional liability . • Mr . Curtis said there are properties and so forth between the property line of this parcel and the stream, aren' t there? Mr . Schlecht said No. Mr. Curtis said this goes right up to the stream? Mr . Schlecht said basically . Mr . Rachun to Mr . Schlecht . . . a direction, an indication to where the general area of the flow is basically all that is going to be required for the SEQR process . Mr. Schlecht to Mr. Rachun. . . think that has been done Alex . Am quite willing to make it clearer . Mr . Rachun to Mr . Curtis . . . think I differ with you Ben, on whether a PUD would give that information up front or not . It hasn ' t in the past . That would be indicated by the type of building going in. Lot of times people come in for a PUD, they don' t have the engineered architectural renditions done for the PUD and then they go off and have a building that may have a different type of displacement or parking surface. Mr. Curtis said I thought the idea of a PUD was a lot of stuff was figured out and you knew. It wasn ' t sort of a concept . It ' s like you say , it ' s not an exercise in futility, you have ' this is • Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 the parking lot going to be here, the building is going to be • here ' , ' we plan for the water to go down here ' . . . there are some . properties on Salo Dr . that are going to be hit . Just gives you a chance to see that because you are dealing with a more definite plan . . . that ' s all I 'm saying. Mr . Rachun said it may very well work that way, but I 'm saying it also may not , the PUD' s we' ve done in the past don' t think it ' s happened. We do have a water shed, we do have drainage • indicators , but the building itself may alter that . Mr . Curtis said I 'm not sure we need to he that firmly bound by the past . . . these are legitimate concerns and they vary from site to site too I would imagine and with the amount you are making • impermeable; in this case it ' s quite an amount and there are some • fairly sensitive areas on two sides of this . • Mr . Hogan said I 've just been looking through these Draft • Conditions for Rezoning , on page 6, Item 11 Topography and Drainage [Mr . Hogan read this section] . Think this covers what we are talking about here . . Mr . Curtis said it certainly speaks to intent , guess in the case of a PUD or plan for an actual development where you have some idea of what ' s going in, you have more information to kind of make a reasonable judgement on it , that 's why I see us being • here, to make those judgments . Mr . Hogan said basically this is a set of rules that , as I see it , these draft conditions for rezoning that are going to apply --. to this thing , that if and when a developer comes in there he' s going to have detailed plans for whatever is going to happen there; and at that point and time the Building Inspector is going I to look at those plans and if he has any questions about the drainage , that ' s when he stops the thing right there . We' re not here tonight to look at a drainage plan and say I think that water' s going to run too fast down near what 's his names house , because we don ' t know what 's going to happen up there yet . As • long as we have a draft condition here for rezoning, we have conditions that say, OK if and when we rezone that piece of property and it is developed, the Building Inspector will look at ' that to make sure that the necessary drainage is provided. . Mr. Curtis to Mr . Hogan. . . guess I 'm looking for is that there is at least as much protection in place for this proposal as there .. would be if Bill came at it in the same way everyone else has developed in the Town, with a PUD. That we' re not giving away protection that I think the Town has felt is justified in the • case of at least 18 PUD's ahead of this in order to accommodate a •• somewhat different procedure, this kind of rezoning . I 'm trying • to balance in my mind what we' re gaining and what we' re giving up from it , so just trying to highlight one of the problems I have with it is that it seems to me we are still kind of talking a shot in the dark with this , and if we are doing that I want to see what is off-setting to benefit the Town on the other side. Mr. Hogan said I can see your concerns Ben, but really , in my e opinion, this is not a shot in the dark at all . Right now we have commercial zones in the Town of Ulysses , according to our zoning ordinance, that have very few regulations . . . you have to comply with the State Building Code, etc . , but if we are going to rezone this particular piece of property it ' s a lot more restrictive than anything else we have out there in a commercial . district . This is going to be a new business district which will provide for light industry , retail , commercial , etc . , and in order for this thing to fly , here' s a set of draft conditions for . rezoning and there are ten pages of conditions . We have a site Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 plan, a concept plan, we have a lot more restrictions and a lot more conditions on this particular situation than we have on anything else out there that is zoned commercial today . Mr . Curtis said I would have to remind you that the parcel is zoned residential and agricultural and a process is in place whereby someone could build on that type of property through the • PUD process , . .my question is , in following that process the Town has an opportunity to exercise a certain level of control and to protect itself from problems that might arise from traffic , flooding , or so forth. . .we ' re switching from that procedure to a new one, and I 'm unclear , a little bit , as to why we are doing that ; and two , I 'm just trying to get a handle on what we are giving up and what we hope to gain by doing it in this new and r. different way as opposed to the way we have already done it ; and one element I guess I am focusing on is that if you' re looking at a proposal , Bill is coming in here with a proposal , for a PUD, and it could be multiple buildings as I understand it , like the one down at Andres , comes in with a proposal like that then we can look at these issues and say this looks pretty good to me or I 'm worried about this or more importantly a resident from Salo • Dr . can come in and 'say I 'm a little worried about this . Mr. Hogan to Mr. Curtis . . . the difference here, Ben, is the PUD' s we had, alright . . . first of all we' ve talked about this many times , OK? It 's questionable whether or not the PUD's constitute spot zoning . You have a zoning ordinance, but anybody that wants a PUD out there can come in and say, I want this right here. . . that ' s more like spot zoning . That ' s number one; number • two . . . .Mr. Curtis said I 'm nct sure that differentiates that from - - this but . . . .Mr . Hogan continuing. . .Yes , number two, the Board has talked about the fact that it 's a good idea to develope that piece of property , it 's going to add to the tax base, create some jobs , etc . , etc „ we 've already talked about that several times . A developer in a project this size, whether they are putting up one building and make couches here or sort eggs , he 's saying that he wants to go out and sell the occupancy of these buildings , however many there are in the project , to various tenants; he doesn' t know who' s going to be in every one of those buildings , or what exactly is going to happen there . He is saying, these three buildings on the west side - we are going to target them for business offices or light industry, he doesn' t know what is going to happen there yet . He doesn ' t have somebody who is saying I 'm going to sign a contract today and I 'm going to make widgets there starting next week. So this is not like any PUD request we have ever had. For us to take this particular piece • of paper, draft conditions for rezoning, which I feel is pretty • doggone complete , and the other information they have given us , to rezone that piece of property up there I think is a good idea. Rezone it to a 82 Business Zone to allow light industry , commercial , retail . We don ' t have anything today that would allow anyone to do that . Mr . Curtis said I think I am a little bit with you on this but it is unclear to me that 's what this is , I 'm still honestly unclear as to whether we are talking about conditional zoning here or creating a new business zone in the Town of Ulysses that would accomplish something that our existing business zones don' t and I think , I think I have argued for this in the past , that I can see a reason for a second type of business zone, one that emphasizes jobs as opposed to retail for example, one that creates a work force out here that is here during the day that shops in this area and doesn' t drive to Ithaca, I can see that as strengthening existing businesses, I can see it as accomplishing something that is not being accomplished, I can see it as something that is useful to place on a main street as opposed to way off in a corner of the Town where you don' t want a bunch of people M 4 i4,r� . • r .1 •rl w 1 :11' it Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 • driving; these sorts of things I can see, and I can see rezoning this second zone that somehow corresponded to that need. But as we have gone through this discussion, it seems to be time and • again as we talk about limiting what types of commercial development would go into this area, that objections have been raised by the developer and that we've conceded to those objections and that the result is that this district winds up being very similar to a B1; I don ' t see it as accomplishing some other purpose and I don ' t see it being considered as a zoning district to accomplish a purpose, which is to strengthen the tax base of the Town of Ulysses . I see it as a response to a proposal for one piece of property. Mr . Hogan said why wouldn' t it strengthen the tax base for the Town of Ulysses , Ben? Mr . Curtis . . .well , it might Bill . The question in my mind is that we have commercial property that isn' t developed, we have commercial property that ' s vacant , and guess my question is do we have sufficient demand to bring building here in the spring. . .why aren' t those people building or using existing buildings? Mr . Hogan said we have talked about that . . .Mr . Curtis said that is one question I would raise. Mr. Hogan said light industry would be excluded from our existing zoning , right? Mr. Curtis • said there I can see if you were developing a second zone, and • you' re developing a zone that is directed towards economic development, directed towards creating, not just a place where things are sold, but an actual market to buy those things , that I can see as different from what we have now and something that' s worth having our Planning Board consider and is something I think I can support , particularly if we' re placing it near residential areas where it makes sense and providing the protection for the people who bought houses in that area, with the full expectation that they were buying next to residential land, that they won ' t somehow be treated unfairly, any more so than the merchants who have bought property in commercially zoned areas and developed there , be treated unfairly in terms of suddenly having a more special privilege extended to another property owner . • Mr . Hogan to Mr. Curtis . . . Ben, you obviously came on the Board r. the first of this year . . .we' ve been wrestling with this thing for two years . We have talked about the concerns for the people who have property in that area. That 's why we came up with this draft conditions for rezoning . That ' s why we said OK, we want to make sure that the buildings are a certain height , make sure there are trees around this thing, make sure it ' s properly done, that ' s what Site Plan Review was all about . So that this particular project will blend in with the neighborhood rather than conflict with it . Mr. Curtis . . . if I read this correctly, we are talking about a total of 50 trees on the whole parcel to be planted . And there would be trees planted along the edge, 50 ' apart , if I remember correctly, near the entrance no closer than 250 ' , entrance going into it . . . I mean . . . Mr . Hogan said there are State regulations as to where you can plant trees; DOT regulations say how close you can plant trees to the road, etc. Mr . Curtis . . . we have talked about this ; I have looked at Babcock, the ShurSave, I ' ve looked around, most of them are fairly close to their entrances ; but in terms of what our purpose is Mr. Hogan said some of those are existing trees Ben . Mr . Curtis . . . at Babcock? Those are all brand new trees . At any rate, guess what I 'm saying is if our intention is to create a zone that 's to • Town of Ulysses 8 • Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 accomplish economic development , think the fact that it may • create some jobs or some building, guess I would look for a little bit more. Would look for , is this going to do the most • • good , or that we can reasonably , as reasonable individuals see happening on this lot , as opposed to maybe it will create some • • jobs . I 'm not sure that one additional 30 thousand square foot • grocery store, I don' t know what that is going to do to the two existing 10 thousand square foot grocery stores . But if we have one 30 and lose one or two 10 ' s , I 'm not really sure we are • coming out ahead . I guess I ' d just like to look at that ; if ':• we ' re trying to increase our tax base I want to do it right . Y. • Mr . Hogan said basically what you are talking about here though is , you are trying to tell the commercial developer , the • businessman, what he should put where . Mr . Curtis said we have already done that , we've given them commercial zones . Mr . Hogan said when you talk about a grocery story going up there; hey , • Town government should not get involved in what particularly happens if it is zoned commercial . • Mr . Curtis to Mr . Hogan. . .Bill , if you put a grocery store right in across from the Shursave, on commercial property that he owns , I 'm with you 100%, that ' s what zoning is about . . .Mr . Hogan asked what ' s the difference . . . .Mr . Curtis said because this is zoned residential . Mr . Hogan said we are going to rezone it Ben, that 's what we ' re talking about . Mr . Curtis said we are talking about whether we should rezone it , Bill , and I guess I am trying to express some of my concerns about it and whether we should approach this in a special way or whether we can ask Mr. Auble to simply do, bring in a PUD like everyone else has done before hits. Jackie Merwin said it ' s true that Ben just came on the Board in January but he didn' t just fall off a turnip truck, he knows a • lot and think that what he is saying is that it ' s the responsibility of the Town Board to protect all the businesses in • the Town, the ShurSave and the P&C are in the Town, and all the people who shop there . I mean all the residents of the Town, I think, would like to have viable businesses and not dead, empty • businesses like we have so many of already, and I think the whole concept of planning means that sometimes we do have to tell people what we want , I think it ' s really irresponsible to give • them a blank check to do anything . I 'm looking for the Town Board to protect the interest of everybody in the Town and I think if we end up with a lot of empty businesses or things that • are not in the best interest of the Town as a whole, that we are going to be worse off than we are now. Mr . Hogan thanked Jackie for her comments . . . like to see people come to the meetings and speak their opinion . As far as telling people , commercial property, what kind of businesses they can operate and what they can ' t , I think that is terrible over- regulation . Think we are way over-regulated in this State right • now. If somebody wants to build ten laundermats up the street here, it ' s their money they want to invest , let them build the ten laundermats . Town government , or any government should not get involved in that type of regulation. You can' t tell people how many grocery stores they can have here. II Ms . Merwin said they are asking a special favor to have it rezoned, and then I think they can have some leverage to say well here is what we think we need. That 's what they are asking , isn' t it? • Mr . Hogan said I don ' t know if it ' s a special favor; it ' s a reasonable request , I think. We ' ve been working on this thing • ..."r, a ri." •'C i r .. ••. ;l:a..':;j:.,r t:roar t .:C:"t;::c { `. ... ,.,.�"� .. K '�••- Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 for over two years , talked about Site Plan Review and that didn' t • fly . I voted the rezoning down because I didn ' t feel there was " enough protection up there. Now we have worked together on this thing for the past couple of months and have come up with a ten page list of conditions for rezoning this piece of property which we feel is going to provide a large measure of protection for the r+ people in that area . It ' s very close to Site Plan Review as I see it . . . do you agree Alex? Mr . Rachun said Yes , I have a couple of comments I would like to make later . Mr . Hogan said we cannot tell people what they can or cannot do in a small business . . .where they can conduct that business . Ms . Merwin asked why do we have a Planning Board, they are to help guide things . Mr . Hogan said the Planning Board has a purpose in this , we have a Master Plan Committee working because we don ' t want fast food • place for ten miles up the road. Mr . Weatherby said we talked at the last meeting that the public ought to be attuned to all of this information. . . [to Ms . Merwin. . . have you seen this document? Ms . Merwin, No I haven; t] . A lot of these questions will be answered after you have seen the documents . Mr . Curtis said I 'm not arguing against free enterprise and free • competition, in fact I 'm accustomed to arguing in favor of that ; I 'm saying if what we need is are jobs and a strong commercial • base we might be able to arrive at that more effectively with particular uses . I 'm not saying you tell people what to do, but if that ' s what we need at that end of Town, and that ' s what ' s going to give the maximum of protection to the people who bought • in that area with the anticipation that that ' s residential , I don ' t see that it ' s a problem for us to say in this particular area we want light industry, we want offices , we want some shops producing businesses because that will strengthen our commercial base, for everyone . That ' s all I 'm saying . Mr . Hogan said so where are we in this process . . .we've talked about this before Ben, and we ' ve talked about it tonight obviously. Marty Protrovik commented on the process of you arguing the SEQR review right now. . . it 's very difficult to accept the environmental impact when you really aren ' t sure at what you are looking at and I think two big issues are traffic and surface water drainage. Unless you have a plan of how many cars and • unless you know how many buildings , how many people are occupying those buildings , the extent of those commercial and industrial aspects , it ' s very difficult to do a traffic study that has any meaning to anyone in that area. Surface runoff , the question was raised on the volume if water leaving that site, another aspect is what ' s in that water; sounds like you are planning to discharge directly into a stream. . .parking lots contain grease, oil , salt , etc. which are highly hazardous even though it may be four tenths of a percent , that could be a hazard to that stream. If you know the conditions you are going to be operating . . . how many acres of parking lot , and the quantity of that water , I think there should be an impact statement done on what it ' s going • to do to the quality of that stream, not just the amount of water flowing . Mr . Hogan said we have a traffic study . . .Mr . Schlecht said he would like to respond to that . . .sounds from the question that you Town of Ulysses 10 Regular Town Board Meeting • February 3 , 1992 • haven' t seen the site plan, the concept plan. . . it does show the buildings , the amount of parking, square footage and different uses and the traffic study that was generated is based on those. Likewise the drainage report is also based on those same size buildings, etc. That information does exist , the Town has it . • Mr . Schlecht continued. . . the intention was that tonight the Board had specifically asked for certain revisions which we brought along. The intention is that we would try to get some publicity so that the community can look at the plan and there is going to be , hopefully tonight , a date for the public hearing where we will have a chance to make a presentation . Mr . Garner asked if this is a new SEQR or carried over. . .Mr . Hogan said it 's a new SEQR. Mr . Curtis said we ' re not doing SEQR now are we? Mr . Reitz said that tonight we should designate that the Town will be lead agent , that starts the process . Krys Cail said it would probably be a good idea for the Planning Board to have a meeting and look at this document; if you are coming up with something like a whole new form of a business zone • which could then certainly be applied for, once it exists, it • would be the right of any person who owns residential property in the township to make application to receive this kind of zoning . Seems like it would be a good idea to have the opportunity for • people to look at it on the Board. Mr . Hogan said we are definitely going to go over this with the Planning Board. Met with them once before and discussed the concept , didn' t have a concept plan at that Lime as we have today . Much has changed since then. • Ms . Cail said this still keeps becoming very focused on the specifics of this particular proposal , I think the Planning Board, more so than Master Plan Committee, it is very important to think of it separate from this particular proposal , if in fact • this new business zone is created, what does that mean in and of • it ' s own right . Separate from any other proposal . Mr . Hogan said once we get this project resolved, one way or the • other; first of all we have to go to the Planning Board before we have a public hearing and get their feeling on it . Mr . Curtis asked if Mr . Hogan feels it would be useful , if the Planing Board was willing, to have them consider a second commercial zone, and consider where they think it should be? Just to see how far along they could move. . . this could be an amendment to the zoning law, to have them consider what they think a second zoning district should be and more importantly where else, besides zoning the Auble parcel , would be other likely spots where that might be appropriate, in an effort to use the planning process down the road instead of having us react . . . think it would take away some of our apprehensions of spot zoning if we were in fact , engaging the process suppose to • be used, and were considering the whole Town instead of just one person . Mr . Hogan said we talked about that and said alright , in fact I remember my comments from the last meeting , that we've been monkeying with this thing for two years , spent a lot of money on it , lawyers fees , public hearings; I want to get on with this thing, OK, I want to get it resolved one way or the other , and a lot of other people would like to see it resolved. As far as a 82 zone being a zone for other portions of the Town, Yes , we should consider that . . .we can give it to the Master Plan Y. Town of Ulysses 11 ' Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 Committee and say here' s what we feel is going to happen up here and we ' d like you to consider other areas of the Town that should • be rezoned to B2 , for light industry, or other zoning •. combinations . As long as we ' re going to do this thing let ' s look ', at all possibilities ; but for right now, I 'd like to get this thing resolved. Yes we are going to sit down with Planning Board and go over it with them, going to try to set up a public hearing and get on with this thing . Mr . Curtis said I think a lot of people kind of figure that has already happened, that the matter was resolved . Lot feel we' ve been through this and it 's over . We' ve brought it back up and e . think we have brought some new ideas , and some of them are pretty • • healthy ideas . Think the idea of a second commercial zone is a very healthy idea and we've got volunteers here . All I 'm saying is why don ' t we bring them into the process and try to take some • of the edge off of this as spot zoning so that we ' re not talking ' about , we' ll run and get this parcel done now and then we' re • going to go on and do everything else . Because I can frankly tell you that if that ever goes to court that it ' s going to be very hard to call this anything but spot zoning. . Mr . Hogan to Mr . Curtis . . . our attorney says that as long as we' ve been talking about this for two years , and we have made the statement several times , and the Board feels it ' s a good idea for the long range planning for the Town, to consider this as a prime commercial zone, we've been over it many, many times , come up with a list of reasons . . . .way back, when the initial request was to annex that piece of property into the Village, the Town . decided, Yes , that was a good idea with a list of reasons . . . the Village decided No . We've been talking about this for a long ' •. time; have good reasons why we think it ' s a good idea and the comprehensive planning of the Town, Yes , that ' s a good place to I put a commercial zone . Our attorney say we are alright . We get sued for spot zoning, we get sued I guess . Would still like to get on with the process . Mr . Schlecht to Mr . Curtis . . . if I may say one thing Ben, if we were starting out fresh two, three weeks ago, a lot of what you are saying I would agree with; the problem is that this has been . the process that has gone on for two years and to be asked now, for instance, why isn' t it a Planned Unit Development , I think , that decision was made with the Town' s input , nearly two years ago. Whether it was a right or good decision or wrong decision, or could have been made a better decision, I 'm not sure, but after going down this path for two years we are fine where we are , and now to be asked to go back as a PUD, which is largely procedural , is very , very unfair . We mutually decided, if you will , it was going to be a rezoning request , and we resubmitted . • We didn' t care too much two years ago one way or the other, we - . would have gone either way . Mr . Auble said from the standpoint of Master Planning, my . understanding, and I haven ' t checked recently, the Village, in their master planning process and via their Planning Board, have • designated our area as a commercial area . I think there is a • , precedent of the local planning process that has already occurred; to say that this is spot zoning, is not accurate in my I opinion . . . .Mr. Curtis said we do have an upcoming meeting with the Village and think that will be a very healthy result as well . Mr . Hogan asked how the other Board members feel about this . Do you want to send this thing to Planning Board or do you want to set a date for a public hearing? Mr . Reitz to Mr . Hogan. . .Bill , we have to do certain things ; that ' s what this all boils down to is action on this project Town of Ulysses 12 • Regular Town Board Meeting • February 3 , 1992 proposal . If we determine that the SEQR process , we want to file a new SEQR form, we have to determine the Town Board as the lead agent . When that happens it starts a timetable clock in motion which means then that we should send copies of this to the • interested parties including: Village of Trumansburg • Town of Covert , Seneca County Town of Ulysses Planning Board. Tompkins County did review this packet . . . .Mr . Curtis to Mr . Reitz : think they withdrew that Tom. Mr . Reitz said he hadn' t heard that . . . last I heard is that they filed a 239 1&m; if there is a change, I 'm not aware of them. . .perhaps you will fill us in on that Ben. • Mr . Rachun said, if we can backtrack for just a minute and talk about the fact that we are talking again about a planned unit development versus a change of zoning with a site plan package, per se . . . one of the reasons we have gone this route, to answer some of the concerns you have Ben in terms of spot zoning, that 's = a key issue involved in this . We have been advised by our • attorney and by some conversations I 've had with the Assoc . of Towns legal advise, that the best route to go is through a legislative process , a change of zoning . A change of zoning should come from within a comprehensive plan, but that doesn ' t necessarily mean a master plan, and oftentimes it doesn' t mean a master plan because towns, although we are a Class 1 Town, we are • a small town, and it 's not unusual not to have a Town this size • not to generate a master plan. But we do have a zoning ordinance • and we do have a map, we do have an indicator of what has and hasn ' t been utilized. It seems that some of the viable • commercial property has been used; there is again close to two miles of commercial property in the Town of Ulysses that isn' t being utilized mainly because houses sit on this property and some of the businesses that are on this property are going up for auction or not being utilized and there are other reasons for that too; maybe proximity, a lot of it has to do with water . When they carne in here a couple of years ago they were, at one time , interested in looking at a PUD and that was looked at and • sent back to the Village as an annexation process , much better to be annexed than go through a planned unit development . I think, as George indicated, that they were somewhat willing, and I got that feeling too, that a PUD was a viable tool on an initial build out when they were really looking more at a grocery store, which I think if you pushed these people, you may see that may not be the direction they are going in, but anyway, the next effort was conditional zoning and there was a document drawn up by the attorney for Mr . Auble that indicated that they would attach into the deed of the property conditions that would so- called, safeguard us , or the Town, in having a development that goes in there that ' s not going to be offensive or whatever fears were generated by developing that area . That type of zoning does lend itself to spot zoning. Conditional zoning generally is generated from without the Town comprehensive plan; it ' s usually shown to be a request by an individual out there, or developer , to change zoning. The Town, which has a record of stating that they felt that some sort of development is needed up there, as well as the fact that we ' ve had our first major impact on our Town and County taxes which kicked them up to the point where people are without a doubt hurting, it reinforces the fact that there is a need. I personally think these people would be extraordinarily lucky to bring in, at this point and time, the sort of commercial enterprise within the framework of this site plan, that would be both beneficial to them and the community, but I think if they mem■ viternamegar ' 711 .e 'yt e . . + 1 . a 1, � ' X, r:" . "'""il "r,. , . r . Sc ' Town of Ulysses 13 i' Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 did bring something in, reflecting on this site plan, that it would be both beneficial to the community and the developer . Obviously if the developer doesn ' t make money , it turns out to be • a shell , the P&C knocks out the ShurSave , it ' s not going to help anyone except maybe the owner of that one store. 75 That leads us into where we are right now . Think the package that we have now is better than a planned unit development . A planned unit development is going to be extremely hard to address on a specific basis, up front , today, right now , what may happen twenty years from now . But this site plan isn ' t going to be difficult , because the site plan is going to be a shell or ,' framework for these people to do what they express a desire to do. Any deviation within that framework is back in front of you anyway; you' re going to have this hassle of having to go through _.. the whole thing Mr . Hogan asked Mr . Rachun to explain that • particular section, any deviation from that framework; in other words it ' s that plan up there plus all these regulations . . . .Mr. Rachun said plus the activity; we have a geographical layout and • we have an activity base. . . .Mr. Curtis asked ' those are the footprints of the building? ' . .Mr . Rachun said No, that is the _ shell ; a framework of what that development is going to look • like . It says 35 , 000square feet , that ' s a maximum build out for that one building, it can be less than that and if it fits within that framework, this is where a better tool for I think both than a PUD, because these people have yet to come up with a developer. .. . But if they have this package then it may end up being beneficial =• . to them. They want this flexibility and the Town wants • ' • protection and I think that this package has provided for both. . The flexibility is within that framework, within that shell ; it 1' • can' t be greater than, but it can be less than . it does allow ' them that flexibility . There are architectural renditions in this package; a typical build out , we have to talk about that , but deviation from that package, it will go back in front of you too. When this came up as a rezoning of the whole thing, that was a concept plan. A typical build out that they provided, basically to provide for SEQR, so that we would have something to go on for SEQR, but the inference was that that was all that was , nothing more, just a typical build out , the type of build out • that can happen. But this is the build out now, this is what it is ; it ' s not something that can be thrown away and a whatever - • goes in there. . . scrape processing, amusement park , that can' t - happen, because we have a framework involved with an activity . . base and we also have a typical build out . They have added flexibility where if they have something that they really want to put in there, they 'd come back to the Town — and go through a process of approval . Mr . Curtis said I have sat in on some of the discussion and had discussion outside of this room with people about the need to • have a more diverse tax base and that is to say a greater commercial part of that tax base and to take some of the load off _: the residential property owners and others in the Town. Whether or not this is the best site for us , whether it is the only site for us , I think this is probably a fairly prime site for it . I . 1 think the role the planning board would play would be in trying • to 1) make a statement of that need, 2) to kind of appraise it , and 3 ) to look at where it would fit . Beyond that I would say that if you' re going to have commercial development , it entails cost and entails revenue, and I think this Board and the planning board and all the citizens need to take a close look at what type of development is going to give us the biggest bang for the dollar . If we can design a zone that makes that type of development likely in that area, then that ' s what I 'd be doing . My purpose is not to gain protection, my purpose is to accomplish . effectively , and think we have to recognize among other things , • • Town of Ulysses 14 • Regular Town Board Meeting • February 3 , 1992 the Village of Trumansburg is an asset in this Town, like it or not , it ' s an asset . If we can do development in that area , increase our tax base, and do it in a way that helps the downtown instead of creates this struggle for survival , I 'm all for that . I don ' t see that we owe the developer a wide open ticket up there, I don ' t mind giving him a great deal of flexibility within what we as a Town Board thinks that this Town needs . I have no problem with that at all Bill . Mr . Rachun said before Bill came as Supervisor, we asked the County what professional service of that sort would entail , and • there is the possibility the Town can go broke trying to find out how to make money, just by garnering up enough of this information. Think if you say, well the planning hoard is there to do that sort of thing, if you look at the credentials of the planning board, I 'm not sure you are going to find a Planner on • the planning board; you' re not going to find a commercial consultant on the planning board and I think the same may be true of the Master Plan Committee. This body right here has as much expertise as any other body, I 'm not saying not to use them, that ' s a debatable issue . Aside from that . . . . all I 'm saying is • what you may want is to bring in some people that have professional expertise in this area and they don ' t come cheap . Three years ago the figure of $21 , 000 . for a master plan generated on a professional basis Mr . Curtis said I 'm not a big proponent of hiring consultants; other areas we can get advice; non-profit , they don ' t charge, don' t know if their ideas are any better than any one else; just called over and asked them, they had a few decent ideas, said most light industry wants to locate near the air port but there are a couple on this side of the lake and they might find us attractive, but they are already use to being over here. Suggested we maybe contact them. There are steps that can be taken, I think that a reason judgement can be made. What I hear you saying is that what we should do is to defer to the expertise and experience of the developer . Mr . Rachun said not at all , I don' t agree with that whatsoever . Mr . Hogan asked for a point of order . Basically, Ben, there are a lot of people that feel that a development up there would help the Village. Why don' t we set up a date next week and discuss this with the Planning Board and get on with the process that we talked about at our last meeting, which is the SEQR process , talk about the Town Board being lead agent on SEQR. Mr. Rachun said what I need to do is have some sort of approval from the Town Board to get some of this information generated to County Planning for a review for 239 . If this information that Paula retyped on the activities and some of the site plan is accessible, and I ' ll review the first part of SEQR, and then you should review it and if you think it has enough pertinent • information, then this information should be sent down to County Planning for their input . We have to have a work session on Part II also, we are responsible for that . I 'd rather get the information back from the County and from the Village and our neighbor to the north, Covert and Seneca County, before we do Part II , because they may have some questions also. But at least we should get some of this generated so we can start setting a timetable for a public hearing. Mr . Hogan suggested scheduling a meeting for Monday , February 10 . Will give people a chance to review the draft conditions for rezoning and the SEQR information/Part I . Mr . Rachun asked if Mr . Hogan wants all this information in front of him next Monday in order to make a decision on whether it 's ready to mail out or e. Town of Ulysses 15 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 • should we mail it out prior to that? Mr . Reitz said we can move tonight , as far as being the lead agent for SEQR. • Mr . Schlecht said I 'm sure some of the audience is confused, because I am. One point I 'd like to make for the audience and T, possible some members on the Board; the County has reviewed the new proposal as we have handed it out , in substance and wrote that it did not have any adverse impact with intermunicipal • relations or some such wording; and that the Town was free to act . One of their comments when they made that review letter was that they suggested that it might , for procedural purposes , he good to re-do the EAF and SEQR. Is that right Alex? Mr . Rachun said No, that 's wrong . It ' s right , to a point . . . but • what happened was , three days ago I received a phone call from County Planning and they rescinded their approval on 239 , their • positive statement on 239, because one of the planners that • reviewed this , and sat in front of Jim Hansen to sign off on, was not aware that this information was generated from your office as opposed from our office and for that reason they can' t act on it . They can only act on it as a request from us and I told them that we would be sending out that information when we gathered it and had it all together. That is where that is right now. Mr. Schlecht said but this is procedural , apparently we handed it to them and you should have handed it to them. Mr . Reitz to Mr . Rachun. . . then Alex, they have rescinded the 239 l&m? Mr. Rachun. . .Yes . Mr. Reitz . . . and not the SEQR conditions , they are totally separate . Mr . Rachun said they can have • • suggestions on SEQR, as an interested party. Mr . Reitz said they may not alter their 239 l&m. . . .Mr . Rachun said they may not alter the 239 1&m and they may rescind Mr . Schlecht said, I want to say for the record , so that it ' s on the record, that as far as we' re concerned we brought it to the Town and the Town got it down to the County . Now, that ' s as far as I • know, that ' s what happened, so I don' t think it ' s accurate to say that somehow we short circuited the Town and I want that on the record. I think the County is mistaken. Now I don' t have any difficulty, because substantively they 've had everything that • they have asked for, but I don' t believe it ' s true, I don' t believe it 's correct, that somehow this went out and we short circuited the process . If the process has been short circuited it wasn ' t our fault . I want that on the record. Mr. Rachun said it wasn' t sent out from my office, it may have been sent out from the Clerk's office. Mr . Schlecht said it might very well have been sent out from the Clerk ' s office. • Mr . Curtis asked . . .did you meet at the Planning Office with Guy • Krogh and Dave and Jim Hansen and Jeanne Barrett? Harry Missirian, did he sit in on that . . . .Mr . Schlecht said Yes . Mr . Curtis said did you present the plan then? Mr. Schlecht said we presented an update of the plan and at that point they said that the request for a new review had to come forward from the Town; we said that we would see that that happened. And as far as we know, it did happen. Mr . Rachun said why don ' t we just proceed with this information and get it down to the County and go from there? Mr . Hogan agreed. Everyone wants to review this information, right? Mr. Rachun to Mr . Schlecht . . .George, the County got all this information, I didn' t ; this is the first I ' ve seen this . . . the drainage. Mr . Schlecht said that request was only made last • • • Town of Ulysses 16 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 week . Mr . Rachun said Right , and if . . . .Mr . Schlecht said the County didn' t think it was relevant enough to ask for . Mr. Rachun said OK, hut I did; my feeling was that 239. . . this information would not have been sent down for 239 request until I had that information. • Mr . Schlecht said you sent it down before without it . Mr . Rachun said I didn ' t . • Ms . Merwin asked where this document of draft conditions came from. . . the Board? • Mr . Hogan said we received a letter from Guy Krogh, attorney for Mr . Auble, stipulating some conditions that they were willing to agree to. We had a couple of meetings , we went over everyone of • those conditions , we revised them, we added quite a few; so that ' s where it came from. • Mr . Rachun said this information that you said was generated from Guy Krogh's office, was in direct relation to the Site Plan Review Ordinance that we [Town] put together here . It was not • something that was hatched out of Thaler and Thaler; it was hatched from the Planning Board and was a document that he used as a shell to put together this . . . to say that it came out of that • office is incorrect . • Mr. Hogan suggested setting up a meeting for Thursday, February 13 , at 7 : 00 PM to discuss the whole process , with the Planning Board. Get the SEQR process going and set up a public hearing. • Mr . Rachun asked if the lead agency was going to be established? Mr . Curtis asked if that doesn' t start the clock ticking for the thirty days? I would prefer to wait until we have had the discussion with the Planning Board in case there are some issues that come up; and then start the thirty days . • Mr . Rachun to Mr . Curtis . . . Ben, on SEQR, there is a logical process here; who else other than the Town Board would be the lead agency in this project . There wouldn' t be any other lead agency . Mr . Curtis said generally you are accepting an application that is complete, that is all I 'm saying; get recommendations from the • Planning Board before we accept it . • Mr. Rachun said I don ' t think that is procedurally accurate . You could take Part I ; you know what the project is . . . .Mr . Curtis said well actually we ' re not , I 'm sorry, application is wrong, where there is an application. This is originating from the Town. . . .Mr . Rachun said that is correct . Mr. Curtis said then we can start the clock . Mr . Rachun asked. . .what are you talking about . The Town is making a request for SEQR to do, but . . . . • Mr . Curtis said we are proposing to amend the zoning laws , is that right? Mr . Rachun said this is correct . Mr . Schlecht said, No, we are the applicant . . . .Mr . Curtis said you are requesting what? Mr . Schlecht said rezoning. Mr . Curtis said you are requesting that your parcel be rezoned? Mr. Schlecht said well actually, in this particular instance Mr . Curtis said, OK, that ' s on the record I guess . Mr . Rachun said you just opened yourself up for a big fat spot zoning in that one. I 've spent a lot just trying to generate the • • fact that this is being generated from the Town to a comprehensive plan that the Town thinks is a good idea to create a new zone up there; through various applications you people have submitted, through looking at this property in a logical light • • :; 3" Town of Ulysses 17 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 and through recommendations the Town made to the Village on annexation, that a rezoning is a good way to go for this parcel . But you . . . . Mr . Schlecht said that is right and I agree 100% . It ' s been an ongoing process ; so now you've come back and said, listen we think you should ask for a rezoning. . . .Mr . Rachun said there you go . Mr . Schlecht continued. . . and we are complying, we ' re saying OK, now we are asking for a rezoning. Mr . Hogan said we ' ve been talking and studying this thing . . .we met with you guys last week and said, alright . . . we ' re talking about a concept plan up there of light industry , there ' s no way that you could do that under today's commercial zone. Mr. • Schlecht said that 's right and we responded. Mr . Hogan said these particular draft conditions for rezoning would apply to a new business zone , that ' s what we are shooting for . Mr . Auble said you are saying that the Town is originating modifying their zoning regulations . Mr . Hogan said right , absolutely . • Ms . Cail said I think that is part of the reason you might have something you could talk about without a technician present , but that it would flop over into the rest of it , by all means you should be there. Mr . Hogan to Mr. Rachun . . .you are saying we can get the SEQR going before next Thursday? Mr. Rachun. . . all I am saying is the only logical Board that has any discretionary action on this is the Town Board, Town of Ulysses . There is no one else out there, so if you want to deem yourself lead agent; there is no one else out there that can be lead agent . SEQR has to be done, because a discretionary action is being taken by the Town Board, therefore 1 you' re the lead agent . Unless you don' t want to proceed with this and then you just stop. When you designate that Ben, I think you can designate that now, I see no reason why you can' t . Mr. Curtis said the only advantage in waiting is in order to start the clock ticking at a time that is more convenient for us . You can always act on it within a week, so why start the thirty day clock ticking any faster than you have to . Mr . Hogan. . . does the clock start ticking once you've declared • yourself lead agent or once you file the SEQR form? Mr . Rachun said , Yeah, that ' s not going to start any clock ticking . As far as the thirty day, if that ' s what you' re concerned about , possibly a ninety day, but definitely not the thirty day for 239 . Mr . Curtis said we' re not acting on an application anyway , I keep forgetting . I assume we ' re not . Mr . Rachun said No . Mr . Curtis said then what we have here is a draft condition, is not the document that we ' re acting on. Somewhere someone is going to draft a zoning law change, is that right? Mr. Rachun said Yes . . .Mr . Curtis continued; an amendment to the zoning law and that is what we are going to vote on? We don ' t even have that . Mr . Rachun said we are pretty close to that . Mr . Curtis said but • we don' t have it , and that is part of what the Planning Board, we • are asking them to participate in, is saying where they think the law should be amended and what it should be. Mr . Rachun said that is correct . Mr . Curtis . . . and so I think it would only be reasonable to start the process at a point when we at least , when •i.'.1:. �'...•. .r.1. '$,t I . .... . .. . I mo. . fit• ...' 4Stttie(..;. , ; .;,t •... . .. y;,:. .,'. Town of Ulysses MT ` 18 Regular Town Board Meeting • February 3 , 1992 we have a document in front of us . • Mr . Rachun said but on a legislative act there is no time clock, the only time clock that 's involved is when the SEQR application is submitted or filed or sent out . SEQR application is completed, all information. . . the only time clock is a thirty day review process once SEQR is sent out . Mr . Curtis said so we are going to be reviewing ourselves . Mr . Rachun said Yeah, there ' s no time clock until Part I and Part II are deemed by you to be complete . . . Part I is complete and then you do Part II along with the input from whoever else you want to involve in this as an interested party; and as a curtesy to • extend you should definitely include the County, Village. . . this draft conditions is your working copy; the rough draft . • Mr . Curtis said this is going to be an amendment to our zoning • law? Mr . Hogan said Yes . Mr . Rachun said all parts of it , not just the one part . . . the total document you just received. This is something the Town Board has gone over , a lot of input from the Town Board, a lot of input from people out here on some of • the issues ; and that ' s what generated that document . . , and that • could be very close to a change of zoning right now. Mr . Curtis said this document here that the developer submitted? • Mr . Rachun said No, we sat down, the Town Board, I 'm not sure you were on or not , this was December 27th, you might have been in the audience, sitting right next to me as a matter of fact . . . and talked about what should and should not take place. You were pushing for a special permit , we were talking about certain activities , etc . We took that information and these guys came in here and sat down and we generated that list, the Town Board asked me to generate that list; Tom Reitz submitted a rough outline, I submitted one, we put those together along with information and input from these guys here, there was a lot of give and take, and then this is what was generated. Mr . Curtis said , this came from our office, basically? OK. Mr . Rachun said this was what was generated. They put it on • their laser printer, but we rough wrote it . Then the second part is that reflection on our Site Plan Review that Guy Krogh adopted this site to that Site Plan Review and spoke about how this site was going to fit in with the idea of the Site Plan Review that was ultimately rejected by the Town Board . Anyway, that was used, at his discretion. . .we didn' t ask him to do that , to come up with what he thought was a palatable design or concept for this build out . The Town Board sat down with him, reviewed and changed some height limits , changed a few things here and there , but was still , as Bobby can remember , was still subject to some • review with the Planning Board. If you think 50 trees aren ' t enough, these are issues that the Planning Board and Town Board may talk about next week. Mr . Curtis said, Alright . Mr . Rachun continued. . . and then along with the site plan, along with that list of activities , which are awfully close to being put down in the form of a zoning change, that goes to a public hearing eventually along with the SEQR being sent to the parties involved; the 239 has to be done by the County, but that has already tentatively been done. . . I think I agree with George, I II think our office up front has sent some of that information out . . . but anyway, aside from that , when the County does 239, the public hearing should he set somewhere down the line, after next week , and go from there . • Mr . Curtis said OK, just so I have this clear now. . . we are creating a business district 2 , that ' s this one . . .Mr . Rachun said • Correct . Mr . Curtis continued. . . that would be one act; the .Y' "'H'JIZ ,.t .4 . 0'1: '^.1%r.. •.1 i 1'1 1.1 ..�11•.'n'.1Jw l i/J^r .1.•• ./ 1'' +� 491 Town of Ulysses 19 Regular Town Board Meeting ' February 3 , 1992 Ti . second one is that we are going to rezone this parcel for that . district , is that how that ' s going to work? •. Mr . Rachun said that is something for us to talk about . Mr . Curtis said, so right now we ' re just talking about creating a N general business district and we haven' t talked about . . . .Mr . Rachun said my feeling is that ' s pretty site specific . Mr . Curtis said so we ' re creating a business district there, all in one act? Mr . Rachun said Yes . Think it is a business district • with site stipulations . Mr . Curtis said specifically just this • • location? Mr . Schlecht said Yes , it talks about a specific site plan, so that we ' re up-to-date; the one that was just handed out • tonight that says Draft Conditions . If you' ll turn to the last • two or three pages , starting with page 8 , as I understand it now, where it starts Business District B2 , are the proposed zoning . . . . Mr . Curtis said OK, that ' s the same as those other three pages . . Mrs . Mount to Mr . Curtis . . . these are the documents you [Town . Board] went over last Monday, at the Special Board Meeting . I r. was instructed at that meeting to retype the entire document, • with revisions from the meeting of December 16, 1991 , met with ., Alex to review it and added the last three pages , with changes • • from the Special Board Meeting of last Monday; all of this has been generated from December 16, 1991 and last Monday, January 27 , 1992 . . . and you where here . Mr. Curtis countered. . . an heroic effort . Mr . Curtis said. . . I was wondering, did we talk about . architectural renditions on page 9 . . .what happened to that? Am I in the wrong place, that ' s the forth line from the bottom of page 9 . . .materially different in location or size and activity from didn' t we say something about architectural rendition? - I had that noted on mine . Mr. Rachun said my concern was activity, we have architectural . . .we have 'd' above. . .Mr . Curtis said we wrote it • specifically in that location, if I remember correctly, think I have it in my notes . It ' s confusing enough to keep up with this stuff . Mrs . Mount said Yes , there was discussion and since I only got this to Alex today, we' ve not had a chance to sit down and review it before getting it to you. Will be happy to retype that page and make sure the change is made . Mr . Hogan said we' ll be having a meeting next Thursday and you' ll have time to read through all this and ask any questions you want to ask . Let 's get this moving along tonight, we do have other . business to take care of . As far as the SEQR process is • concerned I suggest we wait until next Thursday night , give • everybody a chance to read this , talk to Planning Board and at that time can do SEQR . Does everybody agree to that? Would think we should get copies of this to the Planning Board. ' Mrs . Mount will make copies of the Draft Conditions and Ms . Cail will distribute to the Planning Board. Mr . Weatherby asked if SEQR will or will not be done by that time . Mr . Rachun said you have to do Part II of SEQR, I will tentatively fill it out , but you are going to have to go over it , you' re the lead agency , you' re the one who decides . Mr . Weatherby asked . . .you don' t want to have that done by that • time? Mr . Hogan asked if they want to do it Saturday morning; Part II of SEQR. Mr . Rachun said this Saturday , sure. I ' ll review Part I . Mr . Hogan said why don' t we do that . Mr . Rachun said you can all do it and I ' ll do it , I ' ll fill out what I think • 1.42 Town of Ulysses 20 ' • Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 is accurate. . . that ' s the designation process , since I 'm your technician I thought that would be the way to do it . j. . Mr . Curtis . . . would it make sense Bill , we are kinda rushing this • along, between now and then if we had a chance to just go through and rough it in ourselves , read through it and then maybe we can • touch base with Alex on Thursday and see if we all kind of agree and then maybe at that point , there won ' t be a whole lot of argument or at least we ' ll know which specific ones were . Mr . Hogan said when you figure Saturday and Sunday aren' t business day , we ' re only talking three more days if we wait and . do it Thursday , let ' s wait and do it Thursday . If we do it Saturday morning it won' t go any place until Monday anyway . If • the Planning Board concurs with all of this we' ll go ahead Mr . Weatherby said you don' t think you'd like to get the Board ' s approval for lead agency tonight and get Alex roughing this thing J. out so when Thursday' s meeting comes we have the rough draft in • front of us to go over? We' re going to start going over the thing Thursday night? Mr . Hogan said good point . Mr . Curtis said he wouldn' t mind seeing it roughed in, in fact • wouldn' t mind roughing it in himself or anybody else. • Mr. Hogan moved to declare the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses lead agent on the SEQR process , seconded by Mr . Weatherby . • Mr . Curtis said I don' t want to be a pain about this but I 'm still not quite sure what we ' re lead agency in, but go ahead and • vote on it , I ' ll just abstain. Mr . Rachun suggested that Mr . Hogan restate the motion as lead agency on the proposed B2 change of zoning as presented. Because • that has the change of zoning along with the site plan. I 'm not sure where the confusion on that is , but it ' s a change of zoning that has a site plan that is specific to that property . Mr . Weatherby said it is his understanding that nobody else is going to be lead agent except the Town, only other option is we will drop the whole thing . Mr . Rachun said or not do it until you want to do it , but Ben ' s concern that it starts the clock going, there is no clock to go anywhere because it ' s a • legislative act that the Board's taking up right now and you have from now until twenty years from now to act on it , you have no clock. Mr . Curtis said his only concern, I don' t see the point in it . It takes one minute to declare .lead agency . Mr . Rachun said we can suggest to County Planning that ' s where it is and I can get down there and leave some of this information with them. Mr . Curtis . . . I guess you want to submit that to County Planning before the Planning Board or anyone else? Mr . Rachun said No, not the SEQR, but I would like to get some other stuff there . Mr . Curtis said I guess that ' s where we differ; it ' s like when you do the public hearing and everybody ' s already made up their minds . The people are coming in Thursday night to look at it , would at least like to have the possibility to say there ' s a change or two we ' d like to make before we ship it in, that ' s all . Doesn' t seem to me to be that much of a rush. Mr . Hogan asked Mr . Curtis if that answered his questions what the Town is lead agent for. Mr . Curtis said it answers his questions , but it makes me more convinced than ever that we ought to wait as a curtesy . Mr . Hogan said OK, the main reason we ' re doing this is so he can get started with the Part II . Mr . Curtis said we can do that without the lead agent , I 'm going to go home . , . , . .. �: _ , .. �,.• .. .''• Vii'. :r .�' .. . :(;'i'. .. a4 � •� Town of Ulysses 21 • Regular Town Board Meeting . February 3 , 1992 - and read it , we can start all that , have it all filled out . . . but • we might submit something different , the planning; if these people have some ideas , I don' t know maybe they don ' t have any . • • Mr . Hogan amended his earlier motion to read as follows : • RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses be lead agency on the proposed B2 change of zoning as presented . Seconded by Mr . Weatherby . . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye • • Mr . Curtis nay Approved. • • Mr . Rachun said he will hold off on sending anything out and will start on Part II tomorrow. Alpha House Water Rate . . The auditor had informed the Board that they had to introduce a motion to set those water rates for the Water District at Alpha House. - Mr . Hogan moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz the following; Resolved that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses establish a rate of $22 . 35 for the 1st 1 thousand gallons and .. each additional gallon would be billed at $ .0210 . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted Personnel Policy Update Copies of the personnel policy had been distributed to all employees for there comments . Mrs . Vanderbuilt had given some comments to Mr . Hogan for some changes . The board discussed these changes . Mr . Hogan will provide copies to the board of these suggestions . Mr. Curtis asked if anything was in the policy in regards to dismissal/termination . A meeting was set for Saturday February 22 , 1992 at 8 : 00am. Appointment - Mst . Plan Committee Chairperson and ZBA Member The Board re-discussed the resolution that was passed at the III Regular Board Meeting of 1/6/92 in reference to the appointing of ZBA Members and Planning Board Members as to advertising and interviewing process . • Mr . Hogan moved, seconded by Mr . Curtis to reappoint James Hickey • to the Zoning Board of. Appeals . ' Chairperson Gail Zawbsky , ZBA has expressed desire to reappoint r,�'t'.`ti:... •.J; .:,:...: .. .t. - ` r . 'I• ... .: '.' .SY . . ".' a .. '"i, is Town of Ulysses 22 • Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 Mr . Hickey to the ZBA. Mrs . Stover pointed out though that the Board had passed a resolution as to the process for appointing and reappointing members and that they should follow that . No harm in interviewing Mr . Hickey . Mr . Hogan withdrew his motion on the floor to appoint Mr . Hickey . Mr . Hogan recommended to revise the procedure/resolution of January 6, 1992 . They discussed this . After confusing discussion , Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz to adclone phrase to clarify interviewing; The Board may , for good cause, waive the interview process . Resolution of 1/6/92 Amended . Mr . Hogan aye • Mr. Reitz aye • Mr . Curtis aye • Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Amendment Adopted Mr . Hogan moved to waive the interview for Mr . Hickey and reappoint Mr. Hickey to the ZBA, for a five year term, expiring 12/96 , seconded by Mr. Curtis . • Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz abstained Mr . Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted The board discussed the chairperson for the Master Plan Committee. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following; Resolved, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint Gary Myers as the Chairperson to the Master Plan Committee. Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mr . Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Mr . Hogan asked Paula to talk with the Free Press and ask them to rerun an article on the other vacancies on the Town' s committees . Street Lights - Sure Save Grocery Mr . Hogan has talked with NYSEG and gotten a rate which would be around $770 yearly and talked with Mr . Seafuse . Mr . Hogan has also talked with DOT and have written a letter to them. When we get their okay (DOT) we will have to talk to our lawyer and get an agreement with Mr . Seafuse saying he will responsible for the payment . NYSEG have to do business with a municipality and than we would have to bill him. Mr . Curtis stated that is a service. Another option is two contracts in which the person puts the poles in and gives them Lo the municipality and than NYSEG only charges for the electricity and they replace the lights and the photo cells . It runs about $75 a pole . If we get stuck with it Somnimil enif Town of Ulysses 23 Regular Town Board Meeting • February 3 , 1992 some time down the line the cost would not be so much. NYSEG will do different contracts . Mr . Hogan commented that if the Town gets a pretty good iron clad agreement with Mr . Seafuse that he is going to do the paying, who ever owns that property and operates that store from there on out . Mr . Curtis stated that it only cuts down our risk and Mr. Seafuse doesn' t care which way . Mr . Hogan says it is up to him. He will mention it to him. Recycling Center Shelter Mr . Reitz reported that he and Mrs . Stover have been working on a shelter for our recycling center employee. An A frame construction would work well . They have talked with Tom Bennett with the Fair Assoc . and he felt probably if it is portable it would not be an objection to the Fair Assoc. Working on design. A contractor has offered material and to build it . The design has to be agreeable to the Fair Assoc . /) NEW BUSINESSp, Association of Towns Resolutions ( ached) Mr . Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover to have our representative vote nay on resolution titled REVENUE SHARING. Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz nay Mr . Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted Mrs . Stover moved to have the representative vote in favor of all the other resolutions . Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted REPORTS Highway Superintendent Mr . Meeker reported that the crew installed the insulation that was removed from the Town Hall at the Town Barns . We doubled the insulation. Mr . Meeker reported that due to all of the little storms we have used up 2/3 of the salt budget so far this season, so he is mixing half sand and salt for everything . This does not work as fast . Our one salt spreader is down. We dropped a piston in the truck and that is in Elmira for repair . We have been cleaning the shop walls a fixing the cracks . Getting ready to paint the • walls and ceiling. Tompkins Co. Highway Central Purchasing had a joint meeting with the highway superintendents and what they are doing is in 91 they came up with some resolution where no state statute will authorized the County to extend there contract . Town of Ulysses 24 Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 What that mens is there has to be a separate resolution for the Town to buy off the County pricing . WE have bought this way for years . They gave me a sample resolution. The only thing is I do not want to be locked into this . I would want the Town to ad to this resolution that the Town of Ulysses reserves the right to except or reject all bids . The reason for this is that they have come up with zones in the townships and it could cost us more. Mr . Meeker explained his reasoning. Mr . Hogan asked more about the resolution. Mr . Meeker read to the Board. Mr . Hogan moved, seconded by Mr . Weatherby the following: WHEREAS , the Office of the State comptroller has ruled that counties may no longer extend their bids for public work (services ) to political subdivisions , and WHEREAS, General Municipal Law Section 119-0 provides for municipalities entering into cooperative purchasing agreements to jointly bid needed services , and WHEREAS, General Municipal Law, Article 5-G, Section 119-0 states that "any agreement entered into hereunder shall be approved by each participating municipal corporation or district by a majority vote of it 's governing body, " now therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Town of Ulysses be hereby authorized to participate with Tompkins County in the cooperative •• purchasing of the following highway services : Bituminous Materials Guiderail Vegetation Control Installation of Underdrain Bridge Work The Town Board of the Town of Ulysses reserves the right to accept or reject all bids . Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mr . Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted Mr . Meeker was hoping to discuss the next matter with the County Board Representative in reference to a list . The State Bid Pricing List - the Town used to be able to get State Bid Pricing - we would call up County and ask who had state bid pricing for various services . The County told him that now there is a charge for that and they are not allowed to give that out that he would have to buy his own list at a cost of $125 . for list . He feels that the Town is a County tax payer and they work for the different Towns if the County has this list the Towns should not have to buy one for them selves the information should be provided to them. Town Clerk Mrs . Mount , Deputy Clerk reported that for the month of January a total of $1 ,051 . 02 of which $740 . 95 was turned over to the Supervisor along with monthly report . Zoning/Building Inspector r Town of Ulysses 25 • Regular Town Board Meeting February 3 , 1992 • Mr . Rachun reported that three permits were issued and one start . Mr . Rachun will report for the Fire Inspector who had to leave . :• • A couple of mandates on the State and the Federal level in reference to handicapped accessibility in municipal buildings and as of January 26 , 1992 this building has to be handicapped • accessible. If we hold meetings in this building we have to full handicapped accessibility . Door, entrance path, bathrooms and the whole bit , Mr . Rachun stated that he is telling the Board what should be done but what you do ( the Board) is your business . The fines are pretty steep . They discussed the door in the meeting room. • Mr . Hogan said to make a long story short we have until January 6 to have handicapped access in meeting room, have access to bathrooms or we can get a $50 , 000 fine. Alex stated that we could meet next door . Mr . Hogan asked if we could talk to the Associations of Towns and ask them if there is a way to get this postponed or waiver we could ask for . Alex said for right now • all you need to do is get plans in place. Board Members Mr . Reitz asked Mr . Meeker about his plans for replacing the fuel tanks . Mr . Meeker said money is set aside. Should be in place by December 1992 . Estimated cost of ten to twelve thousand. Mr . Hogan said need to have a resolution for the bonding , we all agreed on it but never finalized it . Right now we are bonded for $50 ,000 . for Supervisor and Deputy Supervisor; $1 ,000 . Highway Superintendent ; $8 , 000 . for two Justices [$4 ,000 . ea. ] ; $500 . • Bldg/Zoning Officer; Justice Clerk $4 ,000 . ; Town Clerk $5 ,000 . ; Deputy Town Clerk $5 ,000 . Had talked about increasing these • amounts to $200 , 000 . for Supervisor and Deputy Supervisor but the cost would go up dramatically, so decided to leave it at the original levels . Need a resolution to leave the bonding at $50 , 000 . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to leave the bonding as stated, moved by Mrs . Stover, seconded by Mr . Reitz . • Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved . Correspondence Supervisor Hogan reviewed correspondence received as follows : - • Ulysses Historical Society, TC Board of Reps , Environmental Conservation Dept . , DOT, ACC, Ulysses Joint Youth Committee, SPCA, Tompkins Community Hospital/appointment to board--Mr . Hogan said he thinks it 's John Golder and will ask him if he is interested in doing this again this year, Town Clerk Year End Report „ Town of Lansing/Sales Tax, TC Dept of Planning, Town Topics . Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan moved to adjourn, seconded by Mrs . Stover . Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 11 : 30PM. Respectfully submitted, Paula J . Mount Deputy Town Clerk TOWN OF ULYSSES • JOINT TOWN BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 13, 1992 7:00 P.M. PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan ; Town Board Members, Thomas Reitz , ', _ Catherine Stover , Ben Curtis, Robert Weatherby; Chairman ' of Planning Board David Tyler ; Planning Board Members - Budd Stover , Krys Gail , Gerald Perkins, Richard Garner , Dan Smith, Zoning/Building Insp . , Alex Rachun; Secretary, Rita Brown . OTHERS PRESENT: George Slecht , Dave Auble . Supervisor William Hogan called the meeting to order at 7: 10 p .m. Mr . Hogan started with giving the Planning Board a little background as to where the Auble Project stood. He explained that "at the last go-around we had hoped to have Site Flan Review in place and that didn' t work out . So the Auble Project was voted down . The Town Board voted to reconsider the whole process and sit down and see if we couldn' t work out an agreeable proposal on what to do with that area., Now they have that . proposal put together and the developer has come back with a. Concept Plan and a Development Plan which we feel are pretty complete and give us pretty good handle on what's going to happen there . " Tonight's agenda is to sit down and go over this ' plan and the various information in the plan with the Planning Board to get their • feelings on it . Mr . Hogan explained that they will re-do SEOR on this and they hope to set up a separate business district, calling it B-2, for this particular type of , operation , Tom Reitz stated that we should be talking about 8-2 zone town-wide , not only this operation . The Town Board felt that the Master Plan Commmittee should make that one of their goals to take a look at the entire town to see where other 8-2 zones could be put into the plan effectively. Mr . Hogan stated, " It was decided at the last meeting that we would not go with the conditional type of • zoning, we want to go with a new B-2 District . It would be a lot cleaner . " Dave Tyler asked if the developer had ever proposed this as a PUD. Tom Reitz . explained that he has not because of the restrictions on our PUD requirements within -- our Zoning Ordinance as perceived by several people . Discussion took place regarding the issue of zoning this area and then having developers come in and decide to build elsewhere with the possibility of this district laying vacant . With PUD a time limit is put on it , after that time limit has run out the developer must come back to the Planning Board. There is no time limit when zoned commercial/business allowing the possibility of land being vacant . An example is the old Lakes Drive-In . Dave Tyler suggested that maybe we should hold a mini-hearing taking into account • the Master Plan . We need to look at the whole circumference of the village as far ' as development . Bill Hogan stated that "we have been looking hard at these things • for a couple of years and it is a logical place for a rievelopment and the Board has . • said yes this is a good idea and let's go ahead and pLrsue it . " He explained that . , the Master Plan has gotten bogged down . He did speak to Jim Hanson, the county planner about getting some help on the mapping. He is trying to contact Gary Myers to appoint him Chairperson for the Master Plan Committee . ' Tom Reitz explained that to come up with this 8-2 document , he took a proposed . business district and used that as a guide . III Discussion took place as to where other 82 zones might be approved. Bill Hogan explained that "we're really not here for the developer, we're here for what's good for the community. The Board has decided that this looks like a pretty good deal for the community, its going to provide a good tax base , its going to create jobs, its not going to overload the school system, its a good proposition. We've worked out what we feel is a pretty good form of Site Plan Review and the developer has come up with an outline of a development plan as well as a concept plan and he' s said that he's going to take an extra step to cooperate here . " "One of the big issues in this whole process was protection of the neighbors. People have invested good dollars in property up there and they are looking for some protection. So we felt that with some form of Site Plan Review, with the proper landscaping, trees planted, etc . there would be a minimum Impact on those homes up there . So this is the document that we would like to discuss tonight . Yes, there are things we should do throughout the town but we're not going to get those done tonight . The Master Plan Committee is going to take care of that . " "When the development plan comes in then the specifics will be discussed. " Krys Cail asked to discuss some of the uses as outlined on page 8. She felt we should specify adult bookstore as a Not allowed use , Dave Tyler asked If this proposal for a B2 came from the developer , Bill Hogan explained that it came from the Town Board, They had talked about conditional zoning and they felt this would • be cleaner . So they took some of the developer's Ideas, and some of their own ideas • and put this package together. Tom Reitz stated that this would become part of the • Zoning Ordinance . He also explained that we want to make a separate 82 zone so that it is clearly defined, different from the general Business District currently In the Zoning Ordinance . Bill Hogan explained that whatever type of business goes Into • • this Auble project must be reviewed. More discussion took place regarding B2 versus conditional zoning. The Town • attorney advised that conditional zoning is more risky. It was decided that the Planning Board should meet to review this B2 document . The objective was set to define the new business zone . Concerns are what do we have here and how to make it fair for everyone . George Slecht would welcome chance to sit with the Planning Board to use this as a model , The Planning Board should get • back to the Board with a proposal within 3 weeks. The Board wants the Planning • Board to review a thru j of permitted uses and a thru f of not permitted uses. After discussion it was decided to call this project a Special Permit to accommodate the rush. Alex will put together a packet of back minutes of the Town Board meetings that discussed this proposal . The Planning Board will meet Monday, February 17th at 7:30 p .m. • A date for a Public Hearing to approve 82 zoning and approval of Auble Project was • set for Wednesday, March 18th. It may be held at the Fire House. III T Alex updated the Town Board as to where they stood with the SEAR form. The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m. .. . a a .... . '{. .. I .(*:, •'1. • JOINT MEETING TOWN OF ULYSSES/VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG • February 27 , 1992 . Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Board Members Tom Reitz , Ben • Curtis, Catherine stover; Mayor Tom Bennett; Village Trustees Karl Zelick, Peter Meskill , John Rogers , Bill Griswold; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . : Others Present : Alan Vogel . The Joint Meeting was opened at 7 : 30PM at the Village Meeting Hall . Spring Clean-Up Mr . Hogan said one of the items to discuss is Spring Clean-Up. The County is offering a last shot chance before the landfill is closed on May 1 . It will be held between March 16 and April 3 , . this is when the County will accept materials . Talked about this •• at the Town Board Meeting and Mr . Meeker said people could bring items to the town barns [anything that isn ' t recyclable] . Can' t • provide house to house pick up because trucks are still equipped for snow removal . Will be a joint venture and advertised in the Pennysaver and Free Press; a list of acceptable items will be . included, and will be limited to a pickup truck load per • household. Cost will be shared. Decided that the Town/Village • highway superintendents will decide when to hold the clean-up and • . get the information to the Town Clerk to advertise. Auble Property Mr. Hogan brought the Village up-to-date on where the Town is with this matter. Most Town Board members feel it is a good idea to once again reconsider this project . Have created a new B2 Business Zone which would include light industry . Also provides a form of site plan review, which would give the Town more control over a large business district . At present the Town Planning Board is looking at this document and have set March 1 25th as the date for the public hearing . . Discussion took place and the draft B2 was distributed to the Trustees . Mr. Curtis of the Town Board and Mr. Meskill of the - Y. Village both expressed strong reservations regarding the project . _ Water/sewer situation was discussed at length/municipal services versus wells and septic system. Mr . Hogan spoke to economic growth and broadening the tax base; again mentioned that he thought this was a good package. Village Trustees voiced their concern about their water system. Mr . Hogan said there is money available for water grants tied in with development . Perhaps a good way to get another water tower and upgrade the existing system. • . After concerns voiced by some present, Mr . Griswold said this is , thus far, the best document he has seen to date . Mr . Hogan said this is a lot more restrictive than any previous document, this is to protect the neighbors . Have tied this down • and have a very good package. Mr . Curtis spoke to the industrial park concept versus a retail 1 shopping mall concept . After discussion, Mr . Reitz asked what items they would change and Mr . Griswold said items i , d, and J . • Mr. Hogan said nothing can happen there unless it is rezoned. Town /Village Jt . Mt . 2 2-27-92 Mr . Griswold said he has heard people on both sides of the issue. Likes Mr . Curtis ' ideas , and maybe the Town would flip this around to be more industrial type stuff . . .a phase I and if he does well on that then move on with your approval . . . to get things going . Mr . Rogers said he wouldn' t like to see a strip mall . Mr. Hogan said that is why we have put this document together, including landscape plan, etc . Water, and a new water tower was discussed and the question of who would pay was questioned. Trustees stated that the Village would be monetarily affected by this project . It was pointed out thrt the Village should upgrade their water system with or without the project . It was suggested by the Trustees that Mr. Auble come to the Village and talk to them about the water/sewer . Trustees asked that the Town make it a requirement of the B2 zone that a water district be established; not when the development plans are brought in. After much discussion Mr. Hogan thanked the Village Trustees for their comments and said that the Town would consider the legality of the water district in the B2 zone and talk with the attorney. • We are trying here to give the tax payers a break . We feel that the Town needs something like this . Recreation John Rogers reported that the recreation program now has the advantage to balance their budget with some fee increases and for the first time have some fees in other areas, with different fee in some areas . The lowest fee being charged to Village residents, the higher to town residents and the highest to outside the Town or Village. The Boards discussed these fees . They are trying to make it equal based on who's taxes are paying what . ' Mr. Reitz stated that this way may not be far because the Town pays a higher share in taxes for the Youth Development side of Youth. Mr. Griswold stated that the bottom line is that the users will have to pay something, not raise taxes. Recvclinq Shelter Mr . Reitz and Mrs . Stover reported that a design for a shelter has been approved by the Fair Assoc . and a contractor has agreed to build the shelter. • April 7th, 1992 was set for the next Village/Town meeting, at 7 : 00 am. , at the Village Town Hall . Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, Mr. Curtis moved for adjournment . Unanimously approved. Adjourned at 9 : 30 am. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk • n •5 `'' TOWN OF ULYSSES •.' • REGULAR BOARD MEETING ' March 2 , 1992 PRESENT: Supervisor William P . Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis ; (Robert Weatherby absent )Town Clerk Marsha Georgia and Highway Superintendent James Meeker . OTHERS PRESENT: Judge Susan Zimmerman, David Ellis , James Milks , Steve Proctor, Karen Staff , Ruth Kahn, Mary McLallen , James . Brown, and Dick Waite . Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 p .m. and led those assembled in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover to approve the minutes of the Regular Board Meeting of 2/3/92 and the Special Board Meeting of 2/13/92 . Mr. Curtis pointed out that on page 31 of the Regular Board Meeting the word Revenue Sharing had to be corrected to read Impact Fees . Also on page 31 of same meeting there was no second on one of the resolutions and that should be seconded by Mr . Reitz . Hearing no further changes , the minutes were adopted. Mr . Hogan aye - Mr. Reitz aye - " Mr . Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye ® Trumansburq Fire Department Absent • Representative James Mason Mr . Mason reported that the County Board will meet tomorrow night at 5 : 30 with a public hearing concerning the designation of a change in a local law that designates a single newspaper as the official paper. Way it is proposed is that we will discontinue ._. using two papers . .Trumansburg FreePress and Ithaca Journal . . . and __ if this resolution passes will only use the Ithaca Journal for legal advertising , Mr. Mason indicated that he objects to this resolution and intends to vote against it . Also, Mrs . Livesay, who chairs the Solid Waste Committee is proposing to add a resolution to the agenda to provide for flow control in the solid waste stream in Tompkins County . This is something that has been very controversial . We are right now losing about $9, 000 . a day in revenues that were planned to be used in operating the existing landfill , for closing the landfill , for doing the environmental monitoring, paying for recycling programs and everything that goes into that solid waste program. Some of the haulers have continued to sell the tags to their clients at the rate they would be required to pay to tip at I our landfill and in turn have taken it out of County to landfills who will take it at a lower rate, and pocketed the difference . Haulers are getting rich at our expense. Mr . Curtis asked if the haulers have requested to sell the tags at a lower price and not been allowed to? Mr . Mason said that 's _ been discussed. Basically the tags were priced as they were to . OD Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting March 2 , 1992 support the recycling program, the new transfer station, central processing facility , etc . • Great fear now is the privatization of solid waste. Some areas have gone this way and it can cost a family over $800 . a year for their. garbage. It ' s a very bad situation. Right now, in • Tompkins County , a family is spending about $75 . a person to get rid of their solid waste. Attorneys are adamant that out-of- state hauling will be short term. Mr . Reitz asked about the possibility of 911 services and asked ., if the Town is spinning their wheels in house renumbering? Mr . Mason said Ulysses is probably in better shape than other County municipalities . There will be a Countywide renumbering system when the 911 system goes into effect but that could be three years from now. Doing fly over mapping getting ready for this . Don' t know what impact it will have on Ulysses . Mr. Reitz ' s second question concerned rabies and if there was going to be a Countywide program? Mr. Mason said the health • committee has been working on that . Problem is numbers translate to cost . Health Dept . policy presently is if a sick animal comes in contact with humans , then they will respond. Mr . Meeker to Mr. Mason . . . State, under state contracts are now charging for a list of what is on State Bid. For years we have been able to call the County and get the information. The County pays $150 . for this list and when I called was told I couldn' t get this information because they were paying for it . I 'm a taxpayer that supports Tompkins County and feel we should be able • to call there and get that information. Mr . Mason said he agrees and didn' t know that was happening . Mr. Curtis commented on the request of a 1% sales tax increase by I the County Reps ./thought you were looking for more cuts in spending . . . is that going to be forthcoming? Mr . Mason said that was the sole purpose; if the proposal that was originally set forth in the budget had gone through it would have meant that we would have restored the General Fund, would have restored $400, 000 . to some of the programs that were cut and would have seen a 43% decrease in property taxes in 1993 . Have been delays getting it in place for this year. Claims Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #80-114 in the amount of $115 , 838 . 66 , moved by Mr . Reitz seconded by Mrs . • Stover, Mr . Curtis questioned Claims 80 , 81 and 94 . Seem to be getting bills with the same items and seems to be quite a bit of difference; 80 and 81 are both judicial robes; on 94 there is the same thing . . . justice school and the amounts are different . Feel awkward approving the invoices again and again if I don' t understand these things . Mr . Hogan said the Board authorized the expenditure for the justice school last year . It has come to our attention now that these were to attend NYS Magistrates Convention and that this is not a required organization for a justice . In the future the justices who wish to attend this will do so at their own expense. Mr . Curtis said he has no problem with the Town funding what is potentially valuable training , whether it is required or not ; my concern is that two people went to it and there are two different charges . Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting March 2 , 1992 Justice Zimmerman said she can return her robe if Justice Rector • has found a cheaper place . Mr . Hogan said if you are willing to do that we will hold this voucher out and also the trip voucher (#80 and #94) . Mr . Reitz amended his motion to approve Claims totaling $115 , 248 . 66 , seconded by Mrs . Stover . Unanimously approved . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye • Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Curtis aye HEARING OF DELEGATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS Report on Reapportionment Harry Missirian, TC Reapportionment Committee Chair spoke. It 's • a five member committee in the process of redrawing lines to adjust to the changes of growth in population throughout the County . This process goes on every ten years , required by law that districts for voting purposes be organized so that they come as close as possible to having representatives who represent equal amounts of population. Briefly explained the process, distributed materials , and asked the Town Board to comment , if they wish, by the end of the month. Doesn' t look as though Ulysses will change. Ulysses Youth Unlimited Karen Steffie was here to ask the Board to help sell raffle tickets to raise monies for youth projects . This year they are trying to raise $3000 that could be matched by the county. Mr. Hogan took the tickets and will distribute these to the Board Members who are willing. Spring Clean-Up Mr. Meeker stated that the County has offered a clean-up; has a list of accepted materials , items that are not able to be recycled. Asking people to bring their items to the Town Barns starting March 16-22 from 7AM - 6PM daily. Can' t pick up door- to-door because trucks are still outfitted for snow removal . This will be the last time a clean-up will be offered. Discussed the advertising of this and that the Village would pay half . OLD BUSINESS Personnel Policy Update Mr . Hogan asked if we had received back any comments from our Town Attorney or the County . Nothing has come back . The Board postponed the approval . Street Lights - Shursave Grocery Mr . Hogan read a letter from DOT. He has taken a copy of this letter to Mr. Seafuse. Mr. Reitz asked about a contract with the Town and Mr . Seafuse for payment of this . Shelter for Recycling Supervisor • Mrs . Stover stated that she had not talked with Marion, but the last she knew it is moving along . The Fair Assoc . has approved a design for a shelter and will allow us to have it as long as it „ 1 Town of. Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting March 2 , 1992 is movable . We have a volunteer to built it at no charge. Hopefully before the winter is over it will be in place . Water Project Mr. Hogan has not heard from anyone on the committee . Mr . Curtis asked if he would mind him taking the lead on this . The information will be provided to him. Mr . Reitz asked Mr . Hogan if he had gotten a call from anyone at the Special Children' s Center . They are very interested in water . Veteran 's Exemption Mr . Milks reported that out of 17 municipalities in Tompkins Co. there are only five, including Ulysses do not offer tax exemption for. veterans . You asked at the last meeting the cost and he called the County Assessment Office and they said probably around $3000 or 1/2 of 1%. Mr . Milks state that he does have a very strong appreciation for the efforts the Board is making to keep town taxes to the minimum, consistent with good government and thanks them for that, but does believe it is time to reexamine the question of the veterans minimal tax exemption, which will be for 1994 . (handed out a sample resolution) . He wishes the Board to consider this at their October or November meeting to be on the books in February 1993 and go into effect in January 1994 . Mr . Hogan stated that the Board has had a month to consider this and asked how they felt about it . Wanted to know if they wanted to vote on it . Mr . Curtis feels that the Town is doing the best service possible for the veterans in Ulysses and other people by holding our expenses to a minimum. He hates to see the Board stray from that • line on the basis that this group has a special appreciation and needs special consideration, because than when we say that we can not approve other expenditures for other groups . It is not that • they are not deserving, there are many deserving groups . Mr . Reitz would like to know the legal process for this consideration. Mr . Hogan feels like Ben - a lot of special organizations in community that do a lot , but when you tell one group that you are going to lower your taxes someone else has to pick that tax up. Mr . Milks would like this to be discussed again. • Mr . Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover to table the Veterans • Exemption. Unanimously approved. Auble 82 Mr . Hogan reported that last Thursday the Town had a meeting with the Village and some questions came up about B2 . Mr . Hogan talked with the Planning Dept . this evening and they are working on B2 tonight . We had set a tentative date of March 18 for a public hearing , which has gone by and does not look like we will be able to have one on March 25 as discussed. Mrs . Georgia stated that the Town hasn' t received anything back from the Town Attorney or Tompkins County Planning . Mr . Hogan stated that the Village voiced concerns about water and making a water district as part of the 82 . He will talk with the Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting March 2 , 1992 attorney about this . Mr . Reitz feels a water district before B2 zoning would be very premature . The Board discussed B2 . They will be receiving a report from the Town Planning Board hopefully by March 13 . The Town Board will be meeting again on March 14 at 8 : 00AM. Handicapped Accessibility Mr . Hogan reported that he has to remove the dead bolt lock from the side door in the Court Room and also replace the bulbs in the Exit lights . This has to be done due to a letter received from our Fire Inspector regarding his inspection of Town Hall . If some things aren' t done we can be subject to a fine . Mr . Hogan will try to do this sometime this next week . • NEW BUSINESS • Health Insurance • Mr . Hogan explained to Mr . Reitz that at a meeting he was unable to attend the Board had talked at length about the policy regarding health insurance. Mr. Curtis explained about cash payment to employees to go on their spouses insurance plans . Talked about insurance in general and options to reduce cost . The Board discussed the 10/25 year service of employees before benefiting to half of health insurance coverage . It should now read as follows : For employees hired on or before 1/92 , who have accumulated 25 or more years of continuous employment with the •' Town. (all other stays as written) Mr . Curtis volunteered to look into the health insurance . Mr . Reitz asked if the Board was going to take any action on the Procurement Policy. Mr. Hogan stated that he would like to take another look at that and they could discuss it at next meeting . REPORTS Town Clerk - Mrs . Georgia reported that for the month of February a total of $5 ,724 . 17 was collected of which $5 , 534 . 87 was turned over to the Supervisor along with the monthly report . Part of the money is the In Lieu of Tax monies and Franchise Fees from ACC . Mr . Curtis wants to check with Assemblyman Luster regarding State Retirement Tiers 3 and 4 . Highway Superintendent - Mr. Meeker reported that he had been working on the format for Spring Clean-up; cleaned the shop; hauling SCREEN to mix with salt . Had a fire alarm inspection which was OK. Did a little patching on roads . . . the winter has been touch on roads . Zoning/Building - Mr . Rachun on vacation . Board Members - Mr . Curtis asked when the Town would be renewing the ACC Franchise agreement . Mr. Hogan said that we had recently signed a ten year franchise agreement . Mr . Curtis was asking because he had received a call requesting hook-up and they had not had any luck with the Cable Company . We were told by ACC that they would be looking into extensions , within reason . Mr . Hogan reviewed correspondence. • I .. ... • . . 1. `.5.. .. . - Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting March 2 , 1992 Mr . Reitz mentioned that there will be a Democratic Primary on April 7 and that workers will be needed. The Board discussed school tax issue for those in the Town of Ulysses who are in the Ithaca School District . As the Board has many questions they will get further information. The Board decided to wait for a response from our Town Attorney before discussing a letter received from Susan Zimmerman. Hearing no further business , Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover . Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L . Georgia Town Clerk pm J 3?f TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING • March 14 , 1992 Present : supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine ' Stover , Thomas Reitz , Ben Curtis; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Others Present : Planning Board Members David Tyler, Krys Cail , • Richard Garner, Gerri Keil , Jerry Perkins , Budd Stover, Dan • Smith, Rita Brown. Mr . Hogan called the Special Board Meeting of the Town Board to • order at 8 : 15 AM. • Business District II (82) The Planning Board distributed copies of BUSINESS DISTRICT II (B2) which they revised on March 9, 1992 . [See attached] Mr . Hogan asked the Planning Board to highlight their changes in the B2 document . Mr. Tyler said that the addition of Item III on the first page . . . the development will be presented to the Town Board for • approval before any building permits are issued. h .. Discussion ensued as to why the Planning Board removed Boat Sales/Vehicle Rental from the original document . Discussion also took place regarding residential area and the need to consider that when developing this property. Also addressed impact and developing this area in stages; also the need to enhance what we presently have rather than detract. Discussed Item II h - hours of operation and Item II g - sexually oriented enterprises . Also retail business and the pros/cons of same. ' Special Permits' were discussed for retail establishments . Mr. Hogan stated that at this point we are trying to take action • on this particular parcel of land. . .when that has been done, • there are other areas in the Town that we want to look at . Lighting and traffic study were also addressed. Mr. Curtis felt it would be a good idea to have the Planning Board look over the traffic study. Some Planning Board members expressed their regret that more time • • wasn' t available for further study and consideration of the 82 . • Others expressed the opinion that enough time has been expended and that it is time to move ahead. • Mr . Reitz stated that there had been a response from the Town Attorney and he is recommending that a paragraph be changed to read "prior to any submission to the Town Board of an application for approval of any development plan, the applicant shall first • submit said development plans to the Ulysses Planning Board to be reviewed by them and have their written recommendations forwarded to the Ulysses Town Board within 60 days of submission to the Planning Board" . Discussion followed. The Town Board thanked the Planning Board for their work on B2 . Consideration will be given to suggestions made . A public hearing will be scheduled for Tuesday, April 14 , 1992 at 7 : 00PM at the Trumansburg Elementary School . ile Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting March 14 , 1992 Youth Mr . Hogan read a letter from Linda Beins , Cayuga St . , Trumansburg who expressed interest in being appointed as a representative to the Joint Town/Village Youth Commission. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to appoint Linda Beins , moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover . Mr . Curtis expressed concern that kids on the south end of Ulysses who aren' t in the Trumansburg School District are not notified of programs available. He spoke with Kathy Schaple who lives in that area to find if someone from that area would serve • on this committee. Mr. Reitz said there is no intention to exclude any kids . . . sounds as though they just aren' t getting information on programs . Mr . Curtis asked that this request from Ms . Beins be held until he speaks with Ms . Schaple again. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover to table the request from Ms . Beins until the next Regular Town Board Meeting. Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved. • Clean-Up Discussed upcoming clean-up days . Many telephone calls regarding hours . Personnel Policy The Town Board discussed a letter received from Town employees regarding the proposed change in health insurance for retirees . Mr . Reitz felt that a compromise can be reached to cover the employees hired under the old policy. Ten years seems to be the key; policy now covers anyone who works for ten years can now leave and be eligible for health insurance when they retire. Very bad expense wise for the Town, doesn' t make sense. Need to reword this so that this situation doesn' t happen. Discussion ensued as to rewording the policy. Mr. Curtis suggested "employees hired on or before 12/31/91 , the insurance benefit would kick in if they have ten years of continuous service and are retiring at age 55 or over" . That 's not well - worded, but isn' t that what we are saying? Mr. Hogan said there has been an inequity here; not financially sound; need to correct it . Mrs . Mount agreed that it needs to be corrected, but not on the backs of the employees who have already been in service for 8-10 years . Mr . Curtis said he would like to have it worded "the ten years immediately prior to retirement"; also "For permanent employees hired prior to 12/31/91 Mr . Hogan will work on the wording of this section of the personnel policy on Monday . Hearing no further business Mr . Hogan moved the Special Board meeting adjourn, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at noon. Respectfully submitted, Paula J . Mount Deputy Clerk pm • I■, , ft j TOWN OF ULYSSES • SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING March 21 , 1992 • t Present : Supervisor Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Ben Curtis , Robert Weatherby; Zoning/Building Inapt . Alex Rachun; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . Others Present : Budd Stover, George Schlecht . Mr . Hogan called the Special Meeting of the Town Board to order at 8 : 00am. Mr. Hogan stated that the purpose of this meeting is to get the B2 Zone and amendments in order for the public hearing. The Board worked on the following amendments and B2 Zone document as follows : Amendment #1 Amend Article IV, Section 3 as follows : Change title of Section 3 under Article IV to read 3A - Business District B1 • Amendment 2 • BUSINESS DISTRICT II (B2) 3/92 .1 STATEMENT OF PURPOSE: The Town of Ulysses Town Board proposes to - • create a new Zoning District under Article IV, Section 3B called Business (B2) in the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance. Reasons for the B2 Zone are as follows: 1. An increase in the tax base without a substantial 1 investment by the municipality would help ease the tax burden for Village and Town residents . • 2. To create a business district compatible with the adjacent residential uses. . 3. The commercial buildings proposed would provide services to the public as well as create many new jobs in the community. • 4. The new Business Zone B2 would provide the Town with more reasonable control over sizeable Commercial . Development. 5. The provision of additional services in the area could help create more customers for business 's already in operation in the Village. 6. It would also provide a new zoning category for Light Industry. In Business Zone 2 no buildings shall be erected, altered or extended and no land or building or part thereof shall be used for other than one or more of the following uses: a. Use permitted by Article IV. Section 1. b. Retail store. c. Business or professional office. �." Town of Ulysses 2 , Special Board Meeting March 21 , 1992 d. Restaurant or other place for serving food or beverages . e. Bank or other monetary institution. f . Light Industry. g. Vehicle & Boat Sales. h. Vehicle rental & related service areas. i . Theater or other indoor amusements . j . Motel or hotel . The following uses will NOT be allowed in a Business Zone 2: a. Heavy manufacturing. b. Salvage & scrap processing. c. Commercial storage of volatile & hazardous substances. d. Mining (see Article VI , Section 3 Zoning Ordinance) . e. Mobile home parks. • f . Amusement parks . g. Sexually oriented enterprises. h. Business establishments ordinarily operating between the hours of 11:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. unless otherwise approved by Special Permit from the Town Board. Prior to any submission to the Town Board of the application for approval of any Development Plan, the applicant shall first submit said Development Plan to the Ulysses Planning Board to be reviewed by them and have their written recommendations forwarded to the Ulysses Town Board within 60 days of submission to the Planning Board. The "Development Plan" if approved by the Town Board will form the basis for the issuance of all further building permits by the Building Code Enforcement Officer. The drawings and specifications shall include the following: A. General site plan showing the location, size and configuration of parking, roads, and buildings on the rezoned site. This site plan will include the square footage of each type of use proposed for the site, such as : retail , commercial , office, etc. B. Landscaping plan to show the treatment of landscaping for the site, including buffers . This landscaping plan will also indicate the phasing of the necessary improvements, including landscaping, for the site. C. Specifications for parking lots, roads and other improvements on the site. This will include site specific parking space requirements. D. Architectural renderings showing typical elevations of the proposed buildings . Architectural requirements will also be stated in narrative form. ass • Town of Ulysses 3 • Special Board Meeting March 21 , 1992 An applicant for a building permit within the zone will thereafter submit to the Zoning Code Enforcement Officer a specific detailed site plan for building and use. The Zoning Code Enforcement Officer will be able to compare this specific site plan against the "Development Plan" and the list of allowed uses . If the specific site plan so submitted meets the size and • uses listed in the "Development Plan", the Building Code • Enforcement Officer would issue a building permit . If the specific site plan thus submitted exceeds the maximum areas allowed for each use within the district or is materially different in location, size, architectural renderings or activity from that shown on the "Development Plan" then the Code Enforcement Officer shall not be allowed to issue a building permit, and the specific site plan must be resubmitted to the Town Board for their reapproval before a permit shall be issued by the Code Enforcement Officer. • The "Development Plan" shall provide information from the following checklist to the extent that it is applicable: 1.Title of drawing, including name and address of applicant and person responsible for preparation oi: the drawing. 2.North arrow, scale, and date. • 3.Boundaries of the property plotted to scale. 4 .Existing watercourses. 5 .Grading and drainage plan, showing existing and proposed contours. 6.Location, proposed use, and height of all buildings . • 7 .Location, design, and construction materials of all parking and truck loading areas, showing access and egress. • 8.Provision for pedestrian access. 9.Location of outdoor storage, if any. • 10 .Location, design, and construction materials of all existing or proposed site improvements , including drains, culverts, retaining wall , and fences. 11.Description of the methods of waste disposal and location, design, and construction materials of such • facilities. 12 .Description of the method of securing water and location, design, and construction materials of such facilities. 13.Location of fire and other emergency zones, including the location of fire hydrants . 14 .Location, design, and construction materials of all energy distribution facilities, including electrical , gas, and solar energy. 15.Location, size, and design of all signs including lighting. 16.Location and proposed development of all buffer areas, . Town of Ulysses 4 Special Board Meeting March 21, 1992 including existing vegetative cover. 17 . Location and design of outdoor lighting facilities . 18.Designation of the amount and location of building area proposed for each activity type. 19.General landscaping plan and planting schedule. 20 .An Environmental Assessment Form, with Part I filled out . 21.Other elements integral to the proposed development as considered necessary including identification of any federal , state, or county permits required for the project's execution. Amendment 3 ARTICLE I , SECTION 5 - titled "DEFINITIONS - add the definition of LIGHT INDUSTRY; LIGHT INDUSTRY: Uses serving the needs of the community for industrial activity which are not offensive to nearby commercial or residential uses. Light Industry includes manufacturing or assembly processes carried on completely inside a building. Light Industry shall not produce any of the following adverse impacts: Noise at a level greater than typical street or traffic noise. Hazardous solids , liquids, or gases for emission to the environment. Offensive odors or glare. Offensive vibration. Amendment 4 STATEMENT OF PURPOSE RE-ZONE PARCEL 11-2-7 . 1 THE TOWN BOARD PROPOSES TO RE-ZONE A 23 ACRE PARCEL - PART OF TAX PARCEL #11-2-7 .1 (MAP DATED 9-18-91) LOCATED ON ROUTE 96 NORTH OF THE VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG, FROM RESIDENTIAL TO B2 1. The parcel proposed for B2 is adjacent to the Village of Trumansburg boundary providing a natural extension of the Village boundaries. 2 . To create a business district with the accessibility to state highways with clear line of sight and already existing reduced speed limit providing for a more safe traffic flow. 3. To create a business district that is a desirable location for jobs close to where people live and close to the support services such as fire and emergency, etc. Mr. Hogan moved that the Board adjourn to an Executive Session, seconded by Mr. Curtis . Unanimously approved, the Board adjourned at 12 : 30pm. .•.' : ..7: 'J tv'.r ! • .,•. �•,:, Ali Ls �.1. sr BUSINESS DISTRICT II CONDITIONS FOR 23 ACRES OF TAX PARCEL 11-2-7 . 1 March 1992 (1) Architecture and Aesthetics . We believe the business district should be approved with certain aesthetic and architectural conditions including the following : a . Architectural Style - All building facia and other architectural design features shall comport with the • architectural flavor of the Town and nearby Village. b. Maximum Height - No structure shall be built in excess of 35 feet tall , except that certain purely ornamental design features may be extended to a maximum of 40 feet . c . Bell Tower - The project , to enhance its architectural appeal , may, at the developer ' s option, have an extended peak or bell tower which shall not exceed 50 feet in height . • (2 ) Tree Lines and Shrubbery. The developer feels that the planting of trees , shrubs , and other plants helps preserve the • natural soils from erosion and enhances the sightliness of the project . Tree lines , shrubbery, and hedges are also important in that they baffle noise and protect the privacy of nearby residences . In regards to tree lines, shrubs , and hedges, the developer proposes the following: a . Developer shall be required to plant one tree for every 2000 square feet of building footprint area. b. The northwest boundary of the project , bordering against • Seneca Road, shall be planted with a line of trees no more than 50 feet apart sufficient to create an adequate buffer • zone. . • c . The frontline of the property, facing Route 96, shall be planted with a line of trees spaced no more than 50 feet apart , except that such line of trees shall not be planted within 250 faet of the proposed main entrance to the project to avoid (1) interference with pedestrian and vehicular lines of sight , (2 ) causing a nuisance, or (3) presenting a hazard to the drivers on the public highway. d. In addition to the trees and plants to be planted, existing tree lines inside of the property lines shall be preserved to the extent practicable and shall be enhanced by planting of additional trees in accordance with sub- subparagraphs "a" and "b" above. (3) Public Uses of Land. The developer believes that any proposed commercial project should take into account the needs of • the community . In accord with this concept , the developer • proposes the following: a . Water Tower - A parcel of land will be made available to the Town, or such other entity as the Town directs , upon which a water tower may be built so as to increase the overall capacity of the water system proposed to be used on the property. This tower will increase the water pressure in the other water mains or lines currently installed or to be installed in the subject property. b. A "park-and-ride" facility will be established in cooperation with. Tompkins County . c. Public phones will be made available and installed on site . • Auble Rezoning Request 2 January 31 , 1992 d. Instead of the normal park-and-ride plastic and aluminum structure, the developer will seek to get approval from Park-and-Ride to build a small gazebo which will serve the same purpose as the normal park-and-ride plastic and aluminum waiting/shelter areas . Such gazebo shall comply with the proposed architectural conditions . ( 4 ) Parking . An adequate amount of parking is deemed desirable by not only standard building codes , but as a matter of sound business practice. In regards to parking , the developer proposes the following : a . One parking space shall be provided for every 200 square feet of leased space, or as otherwise required by the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses . h. All parking shall be designed in accord with standard parking principles . c. All parking in the area shall be clearly designated with appropriate yellow or white lines . d . All "no parking" areas, such as fire lanes, driveways through parking lanes , and main exit and entrance routes , shall be clearly marked to prevent parking and unnecessary congestion. e. Handicap parking zones shall be clearly identified and established and shall comport with all handicap accessibility codes , laws , and ordinances . f . All parking spaces shall be of a standard width. • ( 5 ) Handicap Accessibility . In addition to the handicap parking provisions above, all curbs , store fronts , and areas of the project shall be accessible to handicapped individuals . ( 6) Entranceways . The developer feels that the proper safe design of egress and exits is important not only to the appearance of the project, but the safety of the public using the project . Thus , in regards to the proposed entranceways, the developer proposes that the Town Board consider the following conditions : a. The main driveway shall be of a split-lane design or of such other design as mandated or required by New York State Department of Transportation standards or regulations . b. All entranceways and exitways shall be clearly marked with appropriate signage and lane markings and indicators . c . The main exitway shall have at least two lanes, one which will be a right turn only lane so as to prevent congestion (subject to the approval of the New York State Department of Transportation) . d . The entranceway shall be designed in such a manner so as to provide an unobstructed clear line of vision on Route 96 in accord with New York State Department of Transportation standards and regulations . e. A separate entrance will be provided on West Seneca Road for service vehicles . All service vehicles will enter through the side entrance of Seneca Road so as to prevent congestion at the main entranceway. (7 ) Lighting . The developer feels that proper lighting is • essential not only to a sound business district , but for public safety . Thus , the developer proposes the following lighting AMMEMEMgMENNIMMMOMWMW ' l. . .,. .. !.4 4: . 311 • Auble Rezoning Request 3 ' January 31 , 1992 conditions : a . Suitable street lighting will be provided and will be installed at an adequate height and with adequate candle power . Such street lighting will be established along Route 96 covering the full length of the proposed development `- along Route 96 , so long as the New York State Department of • Transportation so permits . l • b. The main entrance and service entrance will be clearly lit so as to allow drivers of vehicles using such entrances and exits to be able to clearly identify the proper lanes and all signs in the area . • c . The parking lot shall be lit by light poles which shall • •• provide adequate candle power to illuminate the public • parking area at night . Such candle power shall be sufficient to allow pedestrians and drivers to identify any hazards in the parking lot . d. The park-and-ride facilities shall be lit so as to allow the general public to clearly identify the park-and-ride . facilities , and to be able to safely use the facilities . • e. All side yards and :ear lots shall be lit by rooftop lighting allowing drivers to clearly identify the location of the building, and to allow drivers to read appropriate .. • • signage so as to determine their proper lane and methods of ingress and egress . (8) Signage. Signage is important for two reasons : (1) for the • • safety of drivers and pedestrians and (2 ) to help the public . • identify the retail establishment it seeks to visit . Allowing the establishments to identify themselves prevents unnecessary . driving in the parking area and prevents interference with l I pedestrian traffic by drivers who are too busy searching for a particular retail store while not paying attention to the .. pedestrian traffic in the parking lot . Thus , the developer proposes the following signage conditions : • a. All parking areas shall be clearly designated with the appropriate painted symbols on the surface of the parking lot . • b. All no parking areas will be clearly identified by painting on the surface of the parking lot , and with - appropriate "no parking" and "fire lane" signs . • • • c . All drives , streets, main entrances and exits, and all surrounding areas in the development shall have appropriate signs placed thereon, including stops , yields , turn only, U- turn signs , and other appropriate signs , as if such roads were public highways . Thus , the developer will put all necessary signs , symbols , and markings , as would be required under Vehicle & Traffic Laws as if the parking area and entrances and exits to such development were public highways as defined and regulated by the Vehicle & Traffic Laws of the State of New York . ' d. Regarding commercial signage, the developer proposes the following : i . All retail establishments shall have a sign clearly identifying the name of the establishment located on . the front of the building. ii . Said frontal commercial signage shall not extend over the top of the upper facia, nor extend below the bottom facia, and shall otherwise comport in all 31 Auble Rezoning Request 4 January 31 , 1992 respects with sign limitations in the Town Zoning Ordinance . iii .All commercial signage, if powered by any electrical source, shall be securely grounded in accord with the National Fire Prevention and Electrical Code as adopted by the State of New York, including any special restrictions placed thereon by Town ordinance or rule, as the same is enforced by the local zoning and code enforcement officer . iv . No establishments shall have any other signage than specifically described herein, except and unless a variance is granted by the Town Board. v. The main entrance sign shall clearly identify the name of the commercial development , and may list names of particular stores within such development . vi . Such entrance sign shall not interfere with drivers ' or pedestrians ' line of sight to or from Route 96. vii . Such main entrance sign shall comport with the aesthetic and architectural considerations above and shall utilize appropriate colors and design to identify specific businesses within the business district by and through the use of those businesses ' recognized tradename or trademark colors . ( 9) Sidewalks and Bike Paths - Safe access for the public • through the development of a sidewalk and bike path system is deemed essential . Therefore, as a condition to the business district the developer proposes the following: a . A walkway/bike path will be provided so as to allow direct access from the business district to the Leisure Living Estates Mobile Home Park . b. The developer shall , at his own expense, build any walkway to the border of property owned by him so as to meet any walkway which borders the developer's property as built by the Town or Village, or other entity. Such walkway shall be built the same width, in the same manner, and with the same type of material as the walkway it is intended to meet . c . A walkway area shall be provided for access to all front entranceways to the retail establishments located in the proposed business district . Such walkway shall be of a sufficient width so as to allow for the safe and uncongested passage of pedestrians . ( 10) Services . All walkway areas located directly in front of the retail establishments for use by the public in obtaining ingress and egress to the retail establishments within the business district shall have certain facilities and services located thereon, including, but not limited to, public mailboxes and telephones . ( 11) Topography and Drainage. Proper grading and drainage is absolutely necessary in any business project . Thus , the developer proposes the following conditions : a. Grading and drainage shall be designed so as to cause all water run-off to drain away from public parking areas , sidewalks , and any other area designated for public use . b. All drainage shall drain into drain courses or drain tiles designed in accordance with recognized engineering . AIMMIMMEIMMEMEL Auble Rezoning Request 5 January 31 , 1992 ' standards . c . All parking lot drainage shall flow into covered „ ditches , storm sewers , charnels , courses , or tiles designed • for a ten ( 10 ) year storm eient . • ( 12 ) Fire and Emergency Zones . All fire and other emergency L • zones , including the location of fire hydrants , shall comport with Uniform Fire Prevention and building Codes as the same were adopted by the State of New York or enhanced by local ordinance or rule . (13) Yards , Setbacks , and Other Requirements . In accordance with the zoning ordinance , and to specifically define certain other • ' structural requirements not addressed above , the developer proposes the following : a . All front yards shall be a minimum of 75 feet from the highway right-of-way. b. All side yards shall be a minimum of 40 feet from any highway right-of-way or neighboring property line. c. All rear yards shall be a minimum of 25 feet from any 1' highway right-of-way or neighboring property line . d. The tree requirements addressed above concerning tree lines upon Seneca Road and Route 96 shall , if necessary, be modified so as to comply with New York State Department of Transportation visibility requirements or standards , and so as to comply with the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance, . dated April 8 , 1978 . e . Distancing between building shall be, in accord with • Article V . , Section 11 of the aforesaid Zoning Ordinance of ^ the Town of Ulysses , a minimum of 75 feet . f . Any accessory buildings may not occupy more than 40 percent of any rear yard and shall not be less than 15 feet from any rear lot line and within 10 feet of any designated buffer area. . g . No accessory structure may be within 75 feet of Seneca Road right-of-way absent a specific use of area variance, as • required. h. No accessory building shall exceed 20 feet in height . unless a specific use or variance is granted, as applicable . , All landscaping for the proposed project must comply with Article VI , Section 10 of the aforesaid Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance, in addition to any requirements imposed by these proposed conditions . i . In all other respects , especially as it pertains to off- ' street parking, signage, non-conforming uses , and other use and building regulations contained in Articles VI through XI of the aforesaid Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses , the developer recognizes that the Zoning Ordinance shall apply as if fully set forth herein. 1 (14) Other General Considerations . a . In all aspects , the proposed uses and design of the structure shall comport with all restrictions applicable to business districts in the local zoning ordinance . b. All signage requirements shall also comply with the business district requirements, plus any restrictions included above. ..u. y• ; .. .. � .. ., , .�•/„ . .. :.p. ,.. •, •..••'v it :,.. . .. - '��''. ''as Auble Rezoning Request 6 January 31 , 1992 c. No billboards shall be allowed anywhere on the proposed property unless an appropriate variance is granted by the Town Board. • d. Exterior storage structures , if any , shall be placed in the rear of the proposed building sites so as to not be visible or accessible to the general public, unless such structure is (1) not exclusively used for storage and (2 ) is a normal ancillary structure permitted by the Zoning • Ordinance . e. All electrical , gas and solar energy distribution facilities shall comply with the Uniform Fire and Building Codes , as enacted by the State of New York and enhanced or altered by local code, regulation, or rule . f . All dumpsters shall be of a standard design and size and • shall be located in the rear of all establishments; away from public view and access . All such dumpsters shall be enclosed on at least three sides . This will enhance the overall aesthetic appearance and safety of the project . g. All proposed retail establishments to be located within • the proposed business district shall be a type of business that is specifically allowed by the Town zoning ordinance for a business district . No non-conforming use may be built , leased, or operated without a specific use variance from the Town Board granted in accord with the current or then existing Town of Ulysses zoning ordinance. As stated, the above proposed conditions are intended to cover basic elements of public safety which we feel are important . Besides which, the developer must comply with far more restrictive conditions than identified above to obtain approval from an insurance company engineer (in order to obtain insurance on the project ) . This doesn' t even II address the thousands of restrictions contained in the Uniform Fire Prevention, Building, and Electrical Codes . BUSINESS DISTRICT II (B2) January 13 , 1992 In Business District 2 no buildings shall be erected, altered or extended and no land or building or part thereof shall be used • for other than one or more of the following uses : a. Use permitted by Article IV. Section 1 . b. Retail store. c . Business or professional office. d. Restaurant or other place for serving food or beverages . e. Bank or other monetary institution. f . Light Industry. g . Vehicle & Boat Sales . h. Vehicle rental & related service areas . i . Theater , bowling alley, or other indoor amusements . j . Motel or hotel . The following uses will NOT be allowed in a Business District 2 : a. Heavy manufacturing . b. Salvage & scrap processing. c. Commercial storage of volatile & hazardous substances . d. Mining. e. Mobile home parks . f . Amusement parks . Prior to the issuance of the first building permit the owner/developer will submit to the Town Board for approval a �. r to ,♦ .: ,).it :,: y 1 : .'I^ ..,� } �, •�` r Auble Rezoning Request January 31 , 1992 "Development Plan" including drawings and specifications of the development within the rezoned property . The drawings and specifications shall include the following: • A. Site plan showing the location, size and configuration of parking, roads , and buildings on the rezoned site. This site plan will include the square footage of each type of • use proposed for the site, such as : retail , commercial , • office, etc . B. Landscaping plan to show the treatment of landscaping for the site. This landscaping plan will also indicate the phasing of the necessary improvements , including • landscaping , for the site. C. Specifications for parking lots, roads and other • improvements on the site . This will include site specific • parking space requirements . D. Architectural renderings showing typical elevations of the proposed buildings . Architectural requirements will be .• stated in narrative form. The "Development Plan" so submitted will be in general conformity with the "Concept Plan" prepared by George C. Schlecht , P.E. ,L.S. and Susan C. Beeners land planner dated 7/8/91, revised 1/13/92 in conformity with the "Concept Elevations" prepared by George Schlecht, Engineer, Susan Beeners, Planner, dated December 12 , 1990 , and will be in conformity with the deed restrictions and conditions proposed by Guy Krogh dated December 12 , 1991 and further amended by the Town of Ulysses Board on January 27 , 1992 . The "Development Plan" thus approved by the Town Board will form the basis for the issuance of all further building permits by the =•• zoning code enforcement officer. An applicant for a building permit within the zone will submit to the zoning code enforcement -" officer a specific detailed site plan for his building and use. The zoning code enforcement officer will be able to compare this specific site plan against the "Development Plan" and the deed restrictions and the list of allowed uses . If the specific site plan so submitted meets or is less than the size or uses listed in the "Development Plan", he would issue a building permit . If the specific site plan thus submitted exceeds the maximum areas • allowed for each use within the district or is materially different in location, size, architectural renderings or activity from that shown on the "Development Plan" then the zoning code enforcement officer would not be allowed to issue a building permit , and the specific site plan would need to be resubmitted to the Town Board for their reapproval . Light Industry: Uses serving the needs of the community for • industrial activity which are not offensive to nearby commercial or residential uses . Light industry includes manufacturing or assembly processes carried on completely inside a building . Light industry shall not produce any of the following adverse impacts: Noise at a level greater than typical street or traffic noise. Hazardous solids , liquids , or gases for emission to the environment . Offensive odors or glare. Offensive vibration. • Ruble Re hinq Request January 3 1992 • • • 1 X92 • I .. 1 r . St 2fr. TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING April 6, 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Ben Curtis , Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Building/Zoning Alex Rachun; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Others Present : James Mason, Beach Stover , Ruth Kahn . Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Town Board Meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 30pm and led those in attendance in • the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes of the Regular Board Meeting of 3/2/92 and the Special Board Meeting of 3/14/92 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover . Two corrections : 3/2/92 page 7 word ' touch' should be ' tough' and 3/14/92 page 2 correct spelling of Kathy Shappell . Hearing no further corrections the minutes were unanimously approved. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to amend the minutes of 3/2/92 , Claim #109 to $5000 . ; to reduce the total claim amount by $2 ,175 . Mr . Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye Approved. Trumansburq Fire Department No report . • Representative James Mason Mr . Mason discussed State contract and accessing amounts to purchase on bid. There has been misunderstanding on charging $100 . ; this should only be when purchasing from the State and is charged by the State, not the County . Mrs . Mount mentioned that when speaking to Purchasing Dept . at County they asked if the Town had paid the $100 . Mr . Mason will check into this ; he is also going to inquire if once you pay the $100 . to the State if you can order many items or if the fee is required for each item. Mr . Mason also reported that the Board of Representatives has been working on solid waste issues . Mr . Hogan questioned the bound books of resolutions , etc . received from the County. Mr . Mason explained that there is a limited number published and all municipalities receive them. Mr. Reitz suggested they be turned over to the library . Claims Mr . Curtis moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz to approve Claims #94 , and #115 - 150 in the amount of $16,789 . 84 . Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved. I'. Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting April 6 , 1992 Supervisor ' s Financial Report Not available . Mr . Reitz stated that this is a quarterly statement and should have one; would like to see some documentation for the next meeting . OLD BUSINESS • New B2 Business Zone Mr . Hogan stated that he and Alex had met with County Planning to discuss the B2 Zone . Need to have a session to discuss SEQR and • will set up a meeting . Street Lights-ShurSave Jim Seafuse has talked with NYSEG, offered a third alternative which is to have two lights on the west side of RT 96 and one light on the east side, or ShurSave side, of RT 96 . Have returned to DOT for approval of this . As soon as they receive an OK, will return to the Town to proceed with that plan. Mr . Seafuse will incur all cost . Mr . Hogan will speak to the Town Attorney regarding a contract with Mr . Seafuse. Recycling Shelter Shelter for recycling supervisor has fallen through. Had a local builder who would have supplied materials and built the shelter. Think we owe an apology to the builder . Don ' t feel you refuse something offered. Asked Board's opinion. Mr . Hogan will write to the contractor and thank him for his offer . Also, there are now jugs out asking for contributions to build a shelter . Mr . Reitz said that is another issue. . .how do we control our town • employees . Mrs . Stover said she was out of town and didn' t realize what was going on either. Mr . Reitz and Mrs . Stover had presented plans for a shelter to the Fair Assoc . and received approval . Mr . Hogan felt the recycling coordinator should be talked to also . Mr . Reitz said new plans will probably be submitted and both he and Mrs . Stover felt that the Town should be privy to what is going on. Mr. Hogan and Mrs . Stover will meet with recycling coordinator . Water Project Mr . Curtis reported that the water surveys were taken to County Planning to be collated . Spoke to Mr . Mason regarding monies • available from the County for an engineering study. Folks on water committee are willing to work if the Board makes some kind of commitment to support their efforts . Further discussion ensued. Mr . Reitz volunteered to work with Mr . Curtis . Personnel Policy • The Board discussed the rewritten health insurance section of the Personnel Policy. Mr . Meeker explained his stand on the insurance; that it was part of the package when he was first hired and that it should continue to be provided for the existing employees upon retirement . That when his time is vested for State retirement that he should also be eligible to receive health insurance benefits at 50% . For Tier I retirement you have to be at least 55 years of age . . .no one currently employed is on this Tier . The other Tiers, II and III you have to be 62 years old to retire. . . after 10 years of service the employee is vested in State Retirement . . . the way I was hired I should be able to Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting April 6, 1992 leave anytime after 10 years of service, go farming, whatever , . and then when I start to get State Retirement at age 62 ; figure that the Town should start paying half of my health insurance. Mr . Hogan and Mr . Curtis addressed the cost of the insurance and the need to find some way to save. Understand the employees concern, this benefit was in place when they were hired, however .• .. we are now saying that we want to provide this benefit for long- • 1 term employees , not just someone here for 10 years . Perhaps we can reach a compromise such as so much a percent per year worked. Mr . Reitz said you are only talking about nine employees . He introduced his suggestions as written March 31 , 1992 and ' distributed to Board members and which stated that the benefit would be available to present employees after ten years of continuous service and upon receiving NYS Retirement . Mr . Curtis suggested that a percentage of 2% per year of work at the Town would be applied to the insurance premium. . . after 10 years you would become vested and receive 20% of the premium and so on . Mr . Hogan suggested a maximum of 50% . Mr . Curtis said if someone is here for 30 years should receive that benefit . Mr . Meeker did not agree with this for current employees . Mr . Hogan said it is getting to the point where the Town will not be able to afford to pay the health insurance, that employees will have to pay a portion. Mr . Reitz said that is the current policy, but has not been enforced; effective in 1984 employees hired were to pay 25% . Not the issue, we are talking about retirement benefits . Mr . Curtis said his concern is in using health insurance as a retirement benefit , no way to control rising costs . Mr . Hogan asked Mr . Meeker to speak to his employees regarding the 2% system, get their opinion. Mr . Reitz said you could also raise the percentage per year up to a maximum of 50%. Mr . Curtis said perhaps the level of coverage will be the giving point ; raise the . deductible, get rid of some items now available. Mr . Meeker said the highway crew doesn' t have any problem with raising the deductible or the prescription card. But , if you want decent employees you have to offer them decent benefits or enough money to make it worth their while. Mr . Hogan said he understands all that has been said; however the policies are old, not based on sound management principals . Further discussion ensued. This item will be tabled, and Mr. Hogan will get different figures from Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Youth Mr . Reitz said there is a tabled motion on Ycuth Rep. to the • Joint Youth Commission. . . Linda Beins . Also have received today a letter from Kathy Shappell who is interested in serving on this committee . Mr . Curtis said he has contacted Ms . Shappell to see how many kids are at that end of the township who attend Ithaca City Schools . Was told about 130 kids . Would like to see her appointed to the Joint Youth Commission so that end of town would I have some representation, feel we have an obligation to those kids . Mr . Reitz said Linda has attended some meetings ; also there may be another resignation forthcoming so would like to get that before we appoint the second person. Mr . Hogan asked the Board' s pleasure . . . have a tabled motion to appoint Linda Beins ; looks like there is going to be another • Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting • • April 6 , 1992 • vacancy , want to act on this motion and then act on this new A person at the next meeting when the other position becomes available? Mr . Reitz said that would be his preference. Mr . Hogan concurred. Have a person here who has attended meetings and is asking to be permanently appointed , Mr . Curtis said the Village is well represented; have another section of town that isn ' t represented at all and their issues need to come before the Joint Youth Commission. Mr . Hogan asked if Ms . Shappell would be II willing to bring those concerns to the committee before being • appointed and appoint her when a vacancy comes open? Mr . Curtis • said he could present that to her ; suppose either one of them could attend the meetings . Would like to see that part of the town represented, and in a voting capacity. Been a deficiency • and have an opportunity to correct it . Mr. Reitz said the deficiency has not been created; the Town Board has advertised many times . There will be a vacancy open by the next Town Board meeting . Mr . Hogan re-entertained the motion to appoint Linda Heins as a representative to the Joint Youth Commission, moved by Mr . Reitz and seconded by Mrs . Stover. Mr. Hogan suggested that Ms . Shappell be invited to the meetings until she can be appointed. Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye • Mr . Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis nay Approved. 1 Mr . Curtis distributed a resume from Joseph Schehr . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to recommend for appointment Joseph Schehr as Representative from the Town of Ulysses to the Tompkins County Youth Board, moved by Mr . Curtis, seconded by Mr . Weatherby . Mr . Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye • • Mrs . Stover aye • Mr . Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved. • Mrs . Stover said we still need a person for the Assessment Review Board. NEW BUSINESS Old Duddleston House Mr . Rachun reported that the Duddleston House has been purchased. Have expressed a desire to become part of the new B2 Zone. The request would be to convert it into an Inn and restaurant . REPORTS Deputy Clerk Paula Mount reported that for the month of March $1 , 693 . was collected of which $1 , 384 . 43 was turned over to the Supervisor . • Mentioned that Mrs . Georgia had compiled some figures for James Mason [sorry he had to leave] that showed that townwide the County taxes had increased slightly more than 42% whereas in the ■ 911' Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting April 6 , 1992 Village the County taxes had increased only 14% . The Clerk ' s office has had major problems with the dictation/transcriber and have investigated prices and have come up with the lowest price from Race Office Equipment . A new • machine will cost $440 . with trade-in. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded • by Mrs . Stover to purchase a new Sanyo 9200 dictation/transcribing machine from Race in the amount of $440 . Mr . Hogan aye • Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved . • Highway Superintendent James Meeker reported they had cleaned and • painted the shop . Did some plowing and salting as needed . Spring Clean-Up was a big success . Water problem on Curry Road which was taken care of . Still haven ' t paid for all the salt; bills still coming . Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun reported that five permits were issued in March. Asked to set up a meeting to do Part II SEQR for the Auble project . New veterinary clinic will be • • opening up soon across from the Shursave. Board Members Mr. Reitz asked if the Board is targeting May 4 to make a decision on the results of the public hearing regarding the B2 Zone, etc .? Mr. Hogan said Yes . Also regarding the SEQR work session, meet on Saturday, April 11 , 1992 at 8 : 00am. CORRESPONDENCE • Mr . Hogan received correspondence from the following: ACC, TC Dept . of Planning, NYSEG, invitation annual banquet Trumansburg Fire Company, TC Budget/Finance, DOT reply to Housworth, American Legion. • Hearing no further business the meeting was unanimously approved • for adjournment at 10 : 15pm. • Respectfully submitted, Paula Mount Deputy Clerk • pm II a97 TOWN OF ULYSSES PUBLIC HEARING 4-21-92 PRESENT : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople; Thomas Reitz , • Catherine Stover , Robert Weatherby and Ben Curtis , Town Clerk, Marsha Georgia , Deputy Clerk, Paula Mount , Town Attorney, Bruce Wilson and Code Enforcement Officer, Alex Rachun. 1 Others Present : see attached sign in list Purpose : to hear public comments on the proposed amendments to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town on Ulysses . Supervisor Hogan called the Public Hearing to order at 7 : 00 pm. and read the legal ad previously published in the Ithaca Journal and Trumansburg Free Press fifteen days prior to the hearing . Mr . Hogan read Amendment #1 (see attal Ked) and asked if there were any comments from the public. • • No comments on Amendment #1 . Mr. Hogan read Amendment #2 (seeOched) and asked for public comments . Mr. Merwin - commented on the six (6) reasons in the "Statement of Purpose" - he questioned if the project would even fly - stated that residents around the project did not want it - would cost jobs downtown - questioned reasonable control - nonsense • that it would help businesses in operation in the Village - questioned the light industry. . Christopher Gunn - asked board to run figure cost of project to town and village residents - stated that he felt there would be more control with a PUD - questioned the need for 723 parking places . • Marty Petrovic - this B2 has been done for planned project - Spot • Zoning - not compatible with housing - questioned use of large parking lot . Barbara Paige - questioned the 21 items in the checklist - stated that the list was not specific enough - need to be clearer on what is needed - better lighting plan - needs to address open space - mistake to leave in such a generic fashion. • Greg Perrauet - concerned about traffic and feels in time that at this project you would see the first traffic light in the area - concerned with the heat from the parking lot - light pollution - would like to see light industry rather than traffic generated by retail stores . Paula Horrigan - feels board has omissions in B2 and would like to see included - % of development that would be for open space - better drainage plans - B2 should have 10% park land - depths of • buffers - parking in rear not out front - should do drain study, environmental impact study - state what kind of light industry - II asked the board for their rational for this - wants proof of financial viability - more research - concern about downtown. Dan Smith - spoke about old zoning ordinance and that a PUD was not meant for commercial uses - B2 is the first step in addressing commercial development - with the way economy is today Yi�i� ,� .�'. .J`�' :n R"F a S,� �. ~.i .)? �. �:1.. . ..,'� ' ./ • •1•:�7 '•'.'�•.. �� 3 / .1:.. .It r• i } ii l ,44 Town of Ulysses 2 Public Hearing 4-21-92 development is needed and should be encouraged - number of • residents may be affected but consider other things - project • could encourage downtown - time to revitalize. Krys Cail - Planning Board Member - felt that the Town Board had • an urgency for the PB to review B2 - she looked at it on a townwide basis - need to do Master Plan. Jerry Perkins - Planning Board Member - had many meetings - •, addressed concerns of buffers and other concerns - we need to start somewhere and B2 is a good start - project is needed - business is needed and so is light industry. Tim Lynch - wants board to do formal analysis - feels this public hearing premature - wants numbers to prove what the board is saying. Geri Keil - feels many people would have come tonight but attending another meeting at the other school . Peggy Spofford - alluded to other areas she had lived. David Tyler - Planning Board Chairman - PB struggled with many aspects of this B2 - Commercial aspects in the Zoning Ordinance very bare bones - great need Master Plan - this B2 is a very useful tool - but then what . Harrison Raymond, Seneca Cty. - why two business districts - this change is for developer - project would lower his property values . Peter Kahn - spot zoning in response to pressure - will empty out • downtown. William Smith - zoning should not be used to control business competition - will help downtown - go ahead with B2 . • Mr. Hogan asked if there were any further comments on Amendment #2 . Hearing no further comments Mr. Hogan went on to #3 . Mr. Hogan asked for comments on Amendment #3 (see attached) . • Tim Lynch - repeated previously asked question. Krys Cail - wants better definition of light industry - professional planner expertise is needed - wants definition that • is consistent with the rest of the country - standard definition. Hearing no further comments Mr . Hogan asked for comments on Amendment #4 (see attached) . Peter Meskill , Village Trustee - on behalf of the Village he read a previously passed resolution where the Village feels that they should be an involved agency . Barbara Paige - we should not even be discussing amendment #4 until the questions are cleared up on #3 . Christopher Gunn - should not be burdened - address zoning first not project - scale of sync. Paula Horrigan - repeated previous concerns . Dan Smith - this project is for a 20 year build out - not happening all at once - in favor. Town of Ulysses 3 Public Hearing 4-21-92 Ian Merwin - responded unfavorably to what the Smith's had stated, • Geri Keil - are we hero for B2 or Auble project . Marty Petrovic - feels that Town Board has the right to charge the developer for any and all studies. Ruth Kahn - why verbully trash the Village - it is unique and viable. Questioned raised as why the Board did not bring this up on the ballot and let the people vote. .' Attorney Wilson stated that it is stated in NYS Town Law this is not something subject to a vote on the ballot. • Questioned raised that these amendments were all spot zoning. Attorney Wilson stated that Amendment 1 , 2 , & 3 are generic zoning changes and are not subject to spot zoning. Mr. Hogan asked if anyone had any further questions or comments for any of the amendments. Hearing no further questions or .. comments Mr. Hogan closed the Public Hearing. Public Hearing closed at 8 : 45 PM. Respectfully submitted, . Marsha L. Georgia, Town Clerk Paula Mount , Deputy Town Clerk mg SPECIAL BOARD MEETING TOWN BOARD April 27 , 1992 • Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Ben Curtis and Catherine Stover; Alex Rachun, Code Enforcement Officer, Town Attorney Bruce Wilson; and Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . Others Present : David Auble and David Tyler Purpose to review purposed amendments 1, 2 & 3 to the zoning • ordinance. Amendment #1 - okay as written. Amendment #3 - Definition of light industry It had been mentioned at the public hearing that this definition • could be a little clearer . The Board discussed this . Attorney [Wilson will provide the Board more information of light industry. Amendment #2 - Business District II (attached is B2 dated 3/92 and the revised copy that is being worked on tonight) �( Attorney Wilson stated that he had basically restructured the UUU document because he felt that there might be some comprehension problems , some structure problems, in terms of possible legal interpretations and possible complications in the • interpretations . Everything that was in the original is still here - most of the restructure is with the statement of purpose . The only thing that has been omitted is "sexual Oriented Enterprises" . I had trouble knowing what the Board had intended. There are provisions for establishing zoning on that criteria but you get into that you have to be more explicit in terms of Sit languages . I do have some examples , in some length, that you can look at if you desire. Attorney Wilson reviewed the new 82 document . The following changes were made: Page 1 - Under Statement of Purposes Item c . - floating was removed and can be was replaced by shall be. Item d. - delete than allow development namely the existing business district which is less restrictive B1 to this new district B2 and to the development district which is less structural Page 2 - Under Permitted Uses Item c - insert office after business Item g - delete 1 Item h - delete Item i - would now be item g Item j - would now be item h Number 2 . ) would now read as follows: Special Board Mtg . 2 • Town Board 4-27-92 2 . ) Permitted uses with SPECIAL PERMITS from the Town Board: a) Establishments ordinarily operating between the hours of • • 11 : 00 pm and 6 :00 am • b) Vehicle & Boat Sales c) Vehicle rental & related service areas • The criteria being impact on the neighborhood by light , noise and traffic. Page 3 - Under Development Plan Process • • Item A) will read as follows; The applicant shall first submit said Development Plan to the Town Board, which may in its discretion refer same to the Ulysses • Planning Board to be reviewed by them, in which case the Planning Board' s written recommendations shall be forwarded to the Ulysses Town Board within 60 days of submission to the Planning Board . Recommendations to the Board are non-binding on the Town Board. Page 5 • Item D) insert laws between Town and ordinance . Insert codes and rules after statutes . Attorney Wilson also pointed out that he refers to the Zoning Officer and the Building Officer now as the Code Enforcement Officer for clarification. • Both documents are attached. III The Board discussed that they still had not heard back from the County of the 239 l&m and that they needed to get together again • to work on SEQR. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk III TOWN OF ULYSSES • REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING • May 4 , 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover , Ben Curtis , Robert Weatherby ; Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun; Town Clerk • Marsha Georgia . Others Present : James Mason, Glenn Chase, George Schlecht , Krys Cail , Steve Proctor, Jackie Merwin, Carolyn Duddleston, • Greg Perreault . Supervisor Hogan called the regular meeting of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7 : 40PM and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . • Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes of the Reg . Board Mtg. of 4/6/92 and the Public Hearing of 4/21/92 , moved by ' Mr. Reitz , seconded by Catherine Stover . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye • Approved. Trumansburo Fire Department - Absent Representative James Mason Mr . Mason reported that there wasn' t much to address . The landfill was closed Saturday and will start hauling to Pennsylvania . Budget cuts have been difficult on various departments this year, hardest hit was the Sheriff ' s department . . . very difficult to manage departments with the cuts . • TomTran has shown a ridership increase; Trumansburg shows 25 . 2% • ® increase in 1991 over 1990 and already in 1992 another 25%, 37% of the people using' TomTran are participants in the Cornell University program. CLAIMS Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #152 - 189 in • the amount of $9, 729 . 47 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mr . Curtis . Mr . Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved . . SUPERVISOR' S FINANCIAL REPORT Mr. Hogan spoke to Mrs . Vanderbilt about the necessity of having the financial reports for the board meetings . Mrs . Vanderbilt - explained that now that the meeting has been moved to the first Monday of the month she doesn ' t get the bank statements on time . to get the report ready. She prepared a quarterly report/budget II/ stat after our last meeting . Mr. Reitz said even if it 's a month late would like to see a report rather than none at all . HEARING OF DELEGATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS '^, Town of Ulysses C 2 Regular Board Meeting May 4 , 1992 • Greg Perreault stated that he didn ' t move to Trumansburg to live next to a shopping center . If Mr . Auble 's parcel is developed �. partly as retail that he is concerned about the impact of the potential traffic in his neighborhood. Talking to neighbors and intends to canvas entire strip from fire station, north to the limit of the Village. Opinion so far is that the developer isn' t trusted; would like to see residential area . Will return to a future town board meeting with some sort of document . • • OLD BUSINESS Zoning Changes Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover and amended by Mr. Curtis [ friendly amendment • ":. accepted by Mr . Reitz] as follows : WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses after due notice and public hearing to consider the adoption of a zoning amendment pursuant to Article X, section 2 of the Town Ordinance and pursuant to Town Law Section 264; and WHEREAS, after due discussion and review the Board has decided it to be in the best interests of the Town to adopt same, BE IT RESOLVED, ENACTED AND ADOPTED as a Town Ordinance this 4th day of May , 1992 , that the Town Board hereby enacts Amendment #3 creating a definition for Light Industry to be enacted and • added as Article I , Section 5 of the Town Zoning Ordinance to • read as follows : LIGHT INDUSTRY : Industrial activity which are not offensive to nearby commercial or residential uses . Light Industry includes manufacturing or assembly processes carried on completely inside a building . Light Industry shall not produce any of the following adverse impacts : III Noise at a level greater than typical street or traffic noise. Hazardous solids , liquids , or gases for emission to the environment . Offensive odors or glare. Offensive vibration. After hearing some brief discussion, Mr. Hogan asked Mrs . Georgia to call a Roll Call Vote. Mr . Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Reitz aye Mr. Hogan aye Adopted q Mr . Hogan read the following resolution: WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses after due notice and public hearing to consider the adoption of a zoning amendment pursuant to Article X, Section 2 of the Town Ordinance and pursuant to Town III Law Section 264; and WHEREAS, after due discussion and review the Board has decided it to be in the best interests of the Town to adopt same, BE IT RESOLVED, ENACTED AND ADOPTED as a Town Ordinance this 4th day of May, 1992 , that the Town Board hereby enacts Amendment #1 changing the title of Article IV , Section 3 to read Article IV, Section 3A - Business District B1 be enacted and added to the Town Zoning Ordinance . egcwg Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Meeting May 4 , 1992 Mr . Hogan moved the resolution, seconded by Mr . Reitz . Mrs . • Georgia called the Roll Call Vote . • Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Curtis aye ® Mr . Weatherby aye • ® Adopted Mr . Hogan said, regarding establishing a new B2 business zone , we received a letter from County Planning Dept . discussing our • attempt to create a new B2 zone . They have taken exception to our efforts to rezone . Mr . Hogan asked the Board if they had time to read this letter? Mr . Hogan said this was just received on Saturday and what we may have to do is table this item until we have had a chance to look over the County Planning Dept . recommendations . Mr . Reitz said that he takes exception to your thoughts of tabling this . It ' s been the intention and the advice of our Town Attorney that a change of this is an administrative act of the Town Board . What County Planning is addressing is only three paragraphs long, which covers the B2 proposal . Mr. Hogan read the following from County Planning : Regarding the rezoning, we applaud your goals for the B2 zone , including increasing the Town' s tax base to ease the tax burden of the residents , creating a business district compatible with the • adjacent residential uses , providing services and new jobs in the community, providing the Town with more reasonable control over sizeable commercial development , creating more customers for businesses int he Village of Trumansburgr and providing areas for ® light industry . The Planning Department , however, is concerned with the process of this rezoning proposal . Accepted practice for rezoning in a municipality generally consists of consulting the community ' s . plan for development and determining whether rezoning would be consistent with the plan. The Planning Board then produces the zoning amendment . After public hearings , the town board adopts the changes . Specific development proposals are then considered for approval according to this plan . Mr . Hogan. . .we have told the County time and time again that we don' t have a master plan, we are working on it , and they keep • coming back and saying we are suppose to work from a master plan. Mr. Hogan continued reading from County 's letter : In this instance, this process has been reversed. The Town is considering creating a new B2 zone after a development proposal • i has been presented . Auble will be considered the first • application for the zone, and the others are not mapped . Without complete information about the rezoning, e.g . where the other B2 zones are located, the Department cannot assess the full impact of the new B2 zones . Mrs . Stover asked what impact the County is giving . Mr . Reitz Ill said they aren' t ; don' t have the right , there is nothing under 239 l&m. It ' s strictly an administrative act of the Board, according to our attorney . Mr . Curtis said Bruce was unclear on this point . Mr . Rachun said he mentioned that a generic change of zoning did not require a SEQR if the geography was not included with it because it would he an exercise in futility; but once it was mapped and the zone was created, then that would kick in a discretionary action that would mean something and SEQR would apply. Mr. Curtis said it does require a 239 . Mr . Rachun said he feels it would be the same exercise in futility . Think problem with Planning Board on County level is they want a -.,.j%.,!: $ ;fAJ '%..i . t, . ..A. y t .r•. 'il. A. : y 9=' " � 1 . ; :rt . '. Town of Ulysses 4 , Regular Board Meeting May 4 , 1992 • development plan in front of them and they don' t have it yet • because we have set this zone up that the development plan comes • in obviously when the developer is ready to develop and the B2 .. has a certain process that the developer has to follow and that ' . , includes submitting a development plan . At that point County ' will get the development plan and they ' ll be able to go through • it with a fine tooth comb, do a 239 on it at that point . The County is OK right now, we are OK with them; they ' re saying they III c, don ' t have enough information for a 239 on the B2 change of zoning and we can ' t give it to them. Once Auble comes in with a development plan , if it goes through, County will look at it and can make a very clear 239 on that . All the things they are concerned about will be put in a development plan, but we' re not at that point yet . • Mr . Schlecht . . .Alex is exactly right , the County is looking for a • development plan and as a requirement of the B2 zone it will be forthcoming . Would refer you to the letter from County Planning in January 1992 where they say the proposal would have no • significant impact on the community and then went on to add some gratuitous remarks in forms of recommendation, and one of the things they did, they said they recommend site plan review be '. • used to achieve the same goals with much greater flexibility; and • that 's exactly what we have done . They are missing the point , _. the development plan will be forthcoming and a lot of these points cleared up when they receive it . Don' t know what they have received from the Town. Mr. Rachun. . . the finalized B2 , Part I of SEQR completed and Part • II tentatively completed, probably around 20 hours of discussion, think the County was well informed. Seems the people I was talking with at County level are not the same people who ended up with the project in front of them. Don' t think they are that far off , other than the fact that there seems to be confusion that they don' t have a development plan; I don' t know how many times that was spelled out to them, but it was . Mr. Schlecht agreed. Mr . Rachun said you have a negative declaration on the development plan, but then they don' t have it yet , and you have a feeling of not being able to complete a decision on the B2 as it stands because they don' t know where else it ' s going and we don' t have that information for them either . You are going to have to • stand on your own merits in terms of how you feel about . this . . . are you going to be able to provide that or are we going to continue doing this in a chronological order and that ' s been the key from the very start . Are we going to map all these places up front , the two other spots , or are we going to do this • chronologically , with Auble being the first . It will be wasted effort if we back-pedal , unless we want to look at the other two places simultaneously . Mr. Hogan. . . two things we are working on here . . . one is the generic 82, which says this is the type of zone we want to create . Then to change the zoning, and where we want to put that is the second thing . Mr . Schlecht stated the rezoning they [County] talk about in • paragraph A is those two things , the creation of the 82 zone and rezoning Bill Auble' s property to B2 . That ' s all covered in A, III if you read it in context , and they make no recommendations under A . You' re free to act as you would. Under B they get off on the development plan. Krys Cail . . . feel there should be a master plan . Mr . Hogan . . . someone at the public hearing indicated this is about the same size as East Hill Plaza so called County Assessment and asked what assessment is on East Hill Plaza . It ' s 5 . 5 million ;� .. ;s, .G:1�'. . . i .',r r.:.. ,•� 'tr ,� .� Ir ,� i.: ti �� r. �•r� '.. ' ..L. r.' '..'. Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Board Meeting • May 4 , 1992 • dollars . . . so I took school tax rate and that parcel would bring in $78 , 705 . per year; in town tax roughly $24 , 000 . per year . Someone in the audience said any developer can apply for a tax • abatement which is up to five years . You won ' t get the full tax • benefit for at least five years . Someone commented that it sounds like the B2 zone is for anyone who asks for it . Mr . • ® Rachun said that is completely untrue . We have a request for a Planned Unit Development which our attorney has said may not be • able to withstand the onslaught of spot zoning . Have a great • deal of information concerning what they want to do, and at this time it has stopped. . . the owner of this project is keenly interested in having his project fall into the realm of B2 zone . Feel that the Auble project would be a good start for 82 . There are very specific sites for B2 zone . Further discussion ensued. Mr. Hogan asked if everyone had a chance to read the letter from Planning Board Chair David Tyler received this evening? Letter takes exception to the fact that the B2 was created as a district which is not a low impact commercial district designed to interface harmoniously with residential uses . Mr . Curtis said the point being raised is that another zone, a B3 might be considered. Mentioned vehicle sales , etc . and if it should be in this zone. Feels it could be a detriment . Interested in notion of simultaneously bringing in a B2 and B3 zone . One of the zones • • would include all these things and the other would be governed by compatibility with adjacent residential land. • Mr. Hogan. . .been working on this concept for a long time and have tried to make it compatible with the surrounding areas . Designed to give some protection to the people in the area . If you want to consider a new B3 zone , would be willing to do that , but tonight we want to decide what to do with B2 based on the • County ' s comments , and Dave Tyler ' s comments . Have put a lot of time and effort into B2 . Have talked with Dave Tyler . In my own mind I don ' t see any real problem with boat sales (g) , we ' ve scratched vehicle sales in our last discussion and we left (h) vehicle rental and related service area . Don ' t see a heavy impact there on the neighborhood with those two uses . Mr.Hogan . . . working on the generic B2 . Way it is worded, have to submit a development plan. The Board would have to approve that plan . Mr . Rachun. . . there is a discretionary measure all the way down the line on this ; do you trust the Town Board or not , to use good judgment . The Planning Board would have the first go at it . Nothing is cast in stone until the development plan is submitted . Mr . Hogan. . . spent a lot of time trying to lessen the impact . Back to B2 , last week during discussion we tentatively scratched off item (g) vehicle sales . The rest of B2 is as is . Mr . Curtis spent considerable time explaining his concept of B2 and B3 . Mr . Rachun said that B1 would take care of a lot of the areas Mr . Curtis would put in a B3 zone. III Mr . Curtis proposed that a B3 could be put together. using B2 with modest changes . Mr . Weatherby suggested using a special permit process under B2 rather than introducing another new zone . Mr . Curtis said he could support that . Mr. Reitz said he would like to see vehicle rental and related service area (g) and (h) put back in and have both of them under special permit by the Town Board. Mr . Weatherby said he could go along with that . Mr . Curtis suggested that retail sales be added to that and Mr . Reitz and Mr . Weatherby both disagreed . Mrs . Stover agreed that vehicle sales be put in under special permit . . +'+�" ,'r: + t )_ .1: ,r+.. ... :. + 1. .. ^ . �' �•'i'. I. ♦ Rr � '. Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Board Meeting `'' May 4 , 1992 Mr . Curtis said he could go along with that if retail was added under special permit . It would be looked at closer that way . ! Mr . Rachun said that it can be done under the development plan . . . that ' s exactly what the Board will have to do to have it as an allowable use. Mr . Hogan said if you go to the Statement of Intent and Purpose, it says 'The purpose of this district is to provide appropriate '" areas on br near major routes within the Town of Ulysses which would permit the development and continued use of lands for compatible retail , commercial , residential and light manufacturing uses . ' If any place in the process it is • determined that this is not compatible, then we would say No . Mr . Hogan said that some of the Board have expressed an interest to put (g) and (h) under Special Permits . . .vehicle and boat sales and vehicle rental and related service areas . Asked how the rest • - of the Board felt . Mr. Curtis said if retail stores was included • would support that . Mr . Hogan said the Board has been over that and you are the only person who shares that opinion. Mr. Weatherby, Mrs . Stover, Mr. Reitz and Mr. Hogan all felt (g) and (h) should be special permits , but not retail stores . Mr . Reitz suggested that Special Permits be established under Item 2 and make them (b) and (c) . Mr . Rachun suggested making Item 2 'Permitted uses with Special Permits from the Town Board. ' Make • (a) Establishments ordinarily operating between the hours of 11 : 00 pm and 6 : 00 am, (b) vehicle and boat sales , and (c) vehicle rental and related service areas . 7. Discussion ensued regarding how the format of this should be and was decided to establish an Item 2 , as suggested by Town Attorney Wilson . • Mr . Hogan read the following resolution: WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses after due notice and public hearing to consider the adoption of a zoning amendment • • pursuant to Article X, Section 2 of the Town Ordinance and pursuant to Town Law Section 264 ; and • WHEREAS , after due discussion and review the Board has • decided it to be in the best interests of the Town to adopt • • same based on finding set forth in the Statement of Intention herein, WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses Town Board has determined that SEQR will be initiated as a Type 1 action under SEQR 617 . 12B1 , when generic B2 is applied to Ulysses Town Zoning Map. BE IT RESOLVED, ENACTED AND ADOPTED as a Town Ordinance this 4th day of May, 1992 , that the Town Board hereby enacts Amendment #2 creating Business District II (B2) to be enacted and added as Article IV, Section 3B of the Town Zoning Ordinance to read as follows : I . Statement of Intent and Purpose The purpose of this district is to provide appropriate areas on or near major routes within the Town of Ulysses which would • permit the development and continued use of lands for compatible • retail , commercial , residential and light manufacturing uses . In promoting the general purpose of this district , the specific intent is : a) to encourage land uses that are characterized by close 14 got Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Board Meeting May 4 , 1992 • residential areas and commercial usage to benefit residents , customers and clients ; b) to generally prohibit all development and the establishment of any uses which would be hazardous , objectionable, or offensive relative to noise, vibration, dust , smoke, odors , heat , glare , and the like and thus to protect the public health safety and welfare and interests . c) to allow a generic classification for a commercial zone • that shall be used as part of a comprehensive planning tool for the community as a whole . d) to provide for alternatives to use of the existing • districts . e) to allow review by the Planning Board and Town Board to provide an orderly and thoughtful review of a particular development plan. f) to provide a vehicle for setting conditions on any development in the zone consistent with gocd planning and needful purpose . g) to provide the Town of Ulysses with more reasonable control over sizeable commercial development and allow for future development a:tpansion in logical areas consistent with organized Town growth, jobs creation, and increase in tax base of the community as a whole . h) to provide a new zoning category for light industry . • II . Permitted Uses • In the business zone 2 , no building shall be erected, altered or extended and no land or building or part thereof shall be used for other than one or more of the following uses and only after approval of a "Development Plan" in connection therewith as set forth herein: 1 .. Permitted d uses are: a) Use permitted by Article IV. Section 1 . b) Retail store . •• c) Business office or professional office . • d) Restaurant or other place for serving food or beverages . e) Bank or other monetary institution . f) Light Industry . g) Theater or other indoor amusements , or other places of indoor public assembly . • h) Motel or hotel . • 2 . Permitted uses with SPECIAL PERMITS from the Town Board. a) Establishments ordinarily operating between the hours of 11 : 00 pm and 6 : 00 am. h) Vehicle & Boat Sales c) Vehicle rental & related service areas . The criteria being impact on the neighborhood by light , noise and traffic. • III . Development Plan Process No "Development Plan" shall be approved or building permit issued • except after the following process : A) The applicant shall first submit said Development Plan to the Town Board, which may in its discretion refer same to the Ulysses Planning Board to be reviewed by them, in which case the Planning Board' s written recommendations shall be forwarded to the Ulysses Town Board within 60 days of submission to the Planning Board. Recommendations of the Board are non-binding on the Town Board . B) The application to Planning Board and Town Board for a "Development Plan" must include the following: 1 . All elements integral to the proposed developments as considered necessary including identification of any federal , state, or county permits required for the projects ' execution. 2 . All State Environmental Quality Review Act documents and "•�, ,: Town of Ulysses 8 Regular Board Meeting May 4 , 1992 rules applicable thereto. 3 . A general site plan showing but not limited to the following : '.'�• a . Title of drawing , including name and address of applicant and person responsible for preparation of the drawing . b. North arrow, scale, and date . c. Boundaries of the property plotted to scale . d . Existing watercourses . e . Grading and drainage plan, showing existing and proposed III contours . f . Location, proposed use, and height of all buildings, including the square footage of each type of use proposed for the site , such as : retail , commercial , office, etc . • g . Location, design, and construction materials of all parking and truck loading areas , showing access and egress , and location, size and configuration of parking, roads , and buildings . h. Provision for pedestrian access . i . Location of outdoor storage, if any. j . Location, design, and construction materials of all existing or proposed site improvements , including drains , culverts , retaining wall , and fences . k . Description of the methods of waste disposal and location, design, and construction materials of such facilities . 1 . Description of the method of securing water and location, • design, and construction materials of such facilities . m. Location of fire and other emergency zones , including the location of fire hydrants . n. Location, design, and construction materials of all energy distribution facilities , including electrical , gas , and solar energy . o. Location, size, and design of all signs including lighting. I p. Location and proposed development of all buffer areas , • including existing vegetative cover . q. Location and design of outdoor lighting facilities . r . Designation of the amount and location of building area proposed for each activity type. • s . Landscaping plan to show the treatment of landscaping for • the site, including buffers . This landscaping plan will also indicate the phasing of the necessary improvements , including landscaping , for the site. t . Architectural renderings showing typical elevations of the proposed buildings . Architectural requirements will also ,_._. be stated in narrative form. C) Upon review of the "Development Plan" by the Town Board with all Planning Board recommendations, submitted materials, information and site specific details the Board shall vote to approve, disapprove or approve with conditions or restrictions the "Development Plan" . The "Development Plan" , if approved by the Town Board, shall form the basis for the issuance of all building permits by the code enforcement officer . Approval by the Town Board is a discretionary act and not administrative . D) The code enforcement officer shall comply with all other Town laws & ordinances , State statutes codes & rules and Federal laws in issuing permits . E) An applicant for a building permit within the zone will thereafter submit to the Building and Zoning Code Enforcement Officer a specific detailed site plan for building and use . The Zoning Code Enforcement Officer will be able to compare this specific site plan against the "Development Plan' and the list of allowed uses . If the specific site plan so submitted meets all the criteria of the "Development Plan", the Building Code Enforcement Officer shall issue a building permit . If the specific site plan thus submitted exceeds the maximum areas lee Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Board Meeting May 4 , 1992 allowed for each use within the district or is materially different in location, size, architectural renderings , landscaping or activity, or as otherwise shown on the - "Development Plan" then the Code Enforcement Officer shall not be • allowed to issue a building permit and the specific site plan must be resubmitted to the Town Board for their re-approval before a permit shall be issued by the Code Enforcement Officer . • The Town Board is not intended to be limited in its conditions for approval of any "Development Plan" and may consider open space, park dedication, parking location and may vary the number of parking spaces , aesthetics and design, ratio of use to open area, drainage , buffer depths , density and other factors in its criteria for approval consistent with its police power . Mr . Rachun said you need to mention that we' ve looked at SEQR, and how it can apply to this , we realize SEQR applies to a change of zoning but being this is a generic zone and we haven' t mapped it yet , SEQR is not applicable . Also, for the record, cited Article 617 of SEQR as follows : WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses Town Board has determined that SEQR will be initiated as a Type 1 action under SEQR 617 . 12B1 , when generic B2 is applied to Ulysses Town Zoning Map. [already written in resolution as previously • read by Mr. Hogan] Mr . Hogan moved the B2 resolution as read, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Hearing no discussion, Mr . Hogan asked for a roll call vote. Mr . Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis nay Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Reitz aye Mr. Hogan aye Adopted. Street Lights - ShurSave Grocery Mr . Hogan suggested that the issue of Street Lights be tabled. Rate Increase - Alpha House Water District Mr. Hogan said he had received a letter concerning the new rates . Will need a resolution to pass the new rates which are, the first • thousand gallons will be $24 . 00 and the next thousand gallons the rate will be $2 . 25 . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr . Curtis , seconded by Mr . Weatherby to approve the new water rates of $24 . 00 for the first thousand gallons and $2 . 25 for every additional one thousand gallons . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye Adopted. ' Water Project Mr . Curtis reported that he had distributed copies of the note from Karl Hecht . Will try to firm up figures . Get Alex to look • over the building permit application. Need an idea of what the potential alternatives are for extending water to Jacksonville . Have a meeting set up with Bolton Point and others who have a background in the issue. Short discussion followed . + *11 Town of Ulysses 10 Regular Board Meeting May 4 , 1992 Health Insurance Mr , Hogan said he is trying to get a Regional Representative from Blue Cross/Blue Shield to meet to discuss what can be done to lower the health cost rates . Will meet on Thursday at 10 : 00 am. NEW BUSINESS Assessment Review Board Mr . Hogan said that the Board needs to appoint a representative from the Town to the local advisory Board of Assessment Review . Carolyn Duddleston has agreed to take this position. Mr . Hogan moved that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint Carolyn Duddleston to the Town' s Board of Assessment Review , seconded by Mrs . Stover . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye Approved. Mr. Reitz asked when action is needed on Amendment $4? Mr . Rachun said that is in the hands of the Board, will be happy to assist . Scheduled a Special Board Meeting/Work Session for Tuesday, May 12th at 7 : 30 pm. Mrs . Stover mentioned that the Recycling Center will not be closed July 18 but will close July 4th. REPORTS Mrs . Georgia, Town Clerk reported total fees for the month of April $2 , 445 . 99 of which $1 , 386 .02 was turned over to the Supervisor . Mr. Hogan read Mr . Meeker' s Highway report : raked and smoothed sod, helped Town of Newfield with spring clean-up, picked up limbs and branches, cold patched Town roads, maintenance on trucks , sandblasting salt boxes to paint . All snow equipment has been removed from the trucks . Mr. Rachun, Zoning/Building Inspector reported eight permits issued; lot of alterations and renovations . Two starts . American Legion has submitted a completed package. Will go to the Planning Board for review. Mr . Reitz reported on the Youth Forum; number one request . . . a swimming pool . Mr . Weatherby spent a morning riding around with Mr. Meeker, to see some problem spots . Highway crew has done a nice job on the shop. Mr . Hogan announced that the Town Historian, Esther Northrup will be celebrating her 80th birthday . Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed various correspondence he had received. Mrs . Duddleston requested copies of all minutes . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mrs . Stover that the :.. ... . . 48" Town of Ulysses 11 Regular Board Meeting May 4 , 1992 Board adjourn to an executive session, seconded by Mr . Weatherby and unanimously approved by the Board. The Board reconvened following the executive session . Was decided that the Town Office will be opened Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday mornings and closed on Tuesday and Thursdays . This will be advertised so that the public is notified in a timely fashion. Will be in effect for two months . If Paula needs help with the typing she will be able to call upon Rita Brown . Hearing no further business , the Regular Board Meeting was • unanimously adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L . Georgia pm r, • w / 1 .,.+ ,{ '•. v' 7% t•.. / �. i . -fl '.:;---'4. 4 .�.. . . 4%, . . .- i• . .. ..t, •, '04•,x..•; .. :.t•}'•. •1't:, Vi.'.,- . ';4., ..: tail ,, tit $1 TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING ;, { May 12, 1992 ' " . 1'. Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis; Zoning/Building Inapt. Alex Rachun; Attorney Bruce •Wilson; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. • • Others Present: Dave Auble, George Schlecht, Greg Perreault. Supervisor Rogan 'called the Special Town Board meeting to order . at 7 :35PM. ' Mr.- Hogan asked Mr. Rachun what is needed to be resolved 'on Pert. tt SEQR. •' _. Mr. .Rachun said "that''basically whateirer We have "indi'cated' as ' • potential large impact'; we -have' to mike a finding 'that- we' have " ' ' looked at it and either can be mitigated -or it will' bb ltoked" at ' ' ' later when the development plan comes in. Going back to this "..; • letter from •the Count ; they •seen •to have lost• a step 'in•-the° - ''' proces8: . :1••'thdught''we had been-very clear in •discussing' with" ' ' • J.: them that there was basically •at.three -part issue:: 1)tol hebe 'f' generic zoning;' a -creation of the 82, ' 2)t=ma#p •it•, and 3)' to receive this development -plan. ' •The"County consolidated''it t'o two ' • steps, a) rezoning and b) the development plan. I would like to state''that 'the •issues they brought 'up 'oin• thedevelopment 'piah •are immaterial at this 'point';••becauae•wel have no developinent'•4lari; twe are not addressing a development plan right now in this process. But that -the t2" as 'appl iedt=td itha •Ruble `property 'and lookinrat ' ' the site 'plan', •the' Towsi Board hah •h1•readytmadd••a• itatedent"that" they were 'g'oIhgi Ito tdo -thla 'chrbneldgical'ly. - County-Pl'ann'ing' is . coming back at -us• and saying 'thai: 'we• ahoukd mapoall" -the? B27'tret . the sai:ie l thine;• �4n--that"hirea"Wetdon't seet:e±e Sot=ele:t •'•: 'i- ' . . .2 . .t.t l.r.t. ,.. _ .., . •, _ .,,,,, c,: .. .. _ di- . .i, ...{1 this. . c ., . . ... Let's net get' begded 'dowp ton'•thie •eedtfon 'on•developmelrtt*ien, • because right howl we-tA're 'trring 'td-map"this' 'B2''atkti •thbtlfirst location, that`-iv the fsaue right ho*'. 1 ,Havo=-t6' address• •SEQEI'-iii',, t ' . . that regard' roil :that"s :one'"of 'the• things "we' l3•Aprobably'Ietid tip - saying -is -that 'thisnaill •be lbbked -at•at •e• liter-'titan. '• •• • i� . Mr. Wilson said he agrees with'•A`"lez•that' the "239 "review•was• a• • hodge podge of things, they did everything from comment on local news articles. . .it should have been 'Writt'eti' in three' separate '• areas, they just divided it into two. . .in answer to the question • ' whethee-a duper'•majority 'willL7•be-required; •i"t-'s not at: all" 'clear' to me what"t ey Were intending by'•this•. • Can. ask for • - • ciarificatiosr•or''just -ignore •it': c. 1 • '1t..1 • , •'°`:s ,'It "•- ' -- The generic zoning "•obv'ioIisi y did not' require the '239' review; the - issue -o# tb&'devdldpineht =Flaw;• where a- "particular" pFan' has been subMitted•d•would- 1ierhaps' regii'ire'the''review." Whethier rezoning' the landt in- quembien requires' n' super .ma'jority, isqunclear': "They [Count''{'Pltinhing'r -des"leeferrinq =to 'rezoning'. .l.they'are 'ringling, ^ the concepts'ibetween twitat• was tdbne •iw the!•generic 'resoni-ng. . :they can't judge' the 'impact -because"they don b -know •where •it •will' be - and in the same tone they start referring to the property belonging to Mr. Auble. • -It•'ts• riot• 'at''all"cl'eav' and -think• it's• '• safe to go with the assumption they have muddied the waters. Regarding 'supertmajotity,'•'at one point when• talking about B1'•they require it and then at another they say not. I would tend to say it does':net -require• a''buper•tlnajority•tbecause there is 'nothing•'to- review. • '' Mr. Rahhhh said h&iSS' already'talked'•tb'•one•member' of"•Planning. • . ' Illbut can cerlhittly'telk''t o -tlte person ttliatiLput• this' document'" -" together.:'L•t'ift 'they 'are etatirig''that l because•'there'tisn'-t -enough inf orMatti'on•=and'lie=are not mapping 'but"otie•%#t6s'! that -they ate '" " ' going id 'givetlnegattve declaration•'beoause'•ef that, -then we can .. ..,:.. _ .l.•.. . ....- ... .t_ ...da il.._.._ . ..G l'P 7 ... C•I. _ . .. .• l, . . . . ,f. ... ., ,.... . . . .. � . L,1 .. .. .. .... , . 111 . • Town of Ulysses 2 Special Board Meeting May 12 , 1992 lower that stand. What they are saying right now is that they don' t have enough information. Mr. Wilson stated that they've missed the point is what it is . The generic is taking place. The map of the particular" ruble parcel is a rezoning, but they haven' t put that in here, they have treated it as the generic, and then they've treated a review necessary at the time a development plan comes forward. My face reading of this is that it does not require a super majority, and it would require it at the time the development plan was submitted, is that your view? Mr. Rachun said no, I would ask the County to evaluate the development plan for what it is. When it is submitted they will have a development plan to review. They are reviewing now something we haven' t asked them to review yet. They have to review; it just as an issue of rezoning a lot . Mr. Hogan. . .are you saying that the 239 lam review shouldn't have been done until the development plan was submitted? • Mr . Rachun.,. .no, what. I 'm saying is that this As a different process than most zoning. Moat zoning isn't done this way and because ef, ;that, we have a development plan that is going to be the ultimate test . That, can be something that the County can look at, there is going to be lighting and landscaping. . .all the things that they are concerned about, plus resubmit the traffic study, resubmit -the drainage and everything else, and they can agree or disagree,whatever they want, but at that time a. development plan-will exist and we' ll ask for a 239 on it..• Right now we're suppose to ask for a 239 on a zoning change once it's passed; it's difficult to do and I think that's why on SW we are going to have to say, in our findings, that down the line there is going to be a development plan. Mr. Hogan. . .whydon't. we get working on Part II ., Hr. Raohun. . .the water issue has been mitigated by the fact that, the developer is not going to be asking for municipal water at this time. Number 18 on page 11, Part II, have concerns there in terms of capital expenditure would be hit hard, Village would have to come up with it . Think the fact that they aren't asking for water and have asked the Village that if in fact, later the • developer does ask for water that they (Villager will be the lead, : • agent on SEQR. The Village has been afraid that they would be•,- ; hit with a bond issue or some kind of heavy expenditure for water and that 's not going to happen now, and if and when it does- happen, there is a discretionary action the Village• will. take. Mr. Hogan. . .why would they be the lead agent? Mr. Rachun. . . just in the water issue, if that ever happened. Mr. Hogan. . .OK, so what do you want to change here on the last page? Mr. Curtis. . .expressed his concerns about the water,. too. Have. gone through this process pn the basis that this was a _good parcel , close to the Village and had access to municipal. water and sewer. During• that discussion the developer indicated that was their intention. When it came up that their. request- would involve the Village in the decision making process, there was a shift and now it 's going to be wells and septics. I 'm uncomfortable with that. Think we were at a point to invite the Village in to negotiate; seems we have set all of that aside and are now moving in a different direction; almost appears we are doing it to avoid that . Not comfortable supporting that . • -a 1 ;,.." . Town of Ulysses 3 Special Board Meeting ) May 12, 1992 ' Mr. Hogan. . .basically Ben we have said that thin, we feel , is a good location for development for several reasons; on a main • highway, near fire department , • etc. , etc. . . .we changed our • statement- of purpose- for- the B2- zone, and for the Auble project, . and dropped that information. Basically it 's up to the developer to decide what they want to do for water and sewer. Mr. Curtis . . . true, it is up to the developer to- make that • • decision eventually, but it 's up to us to decide whether to rezone' that• and on- what basis we want to' do'•that . If- we• want- to move ahead on the-•basis that those services could be- available' • • and that could make this• parcel • advantagebus to' develop- at this • time, think we can take a• hind- in• those negotiations: • . Mr. Hogan. .'-.do• we do that now- or do: that. when a development plan comes in? tie- are talking about reloning a piece- of land; talking:. ibout •the• fact that that's n `good% place for•development , what difference- does it- slake to w e l l or- get water frbin• the'-Villege? = Gueeb• I'm not, concerned about that- Ben. They will have- to go through- the' Health' Dept: - approvals, • auto the • lending institutions will make sure they have adequate water before getting' a- loan, ' etc-.; - there are- controls' there: - • • - - • • Mr. Curtis. •. reiterated- his' feelings•. ' Added that, he feels; that the developer- would 1i•ke• to: avoid 'dealing- directly' with. the• ; • Village on- this-1 - Does: the- Town- want to- participate- in: this end - do we want to participate in a way the encourages an open • ; - • dialogue with the Village? In terms of my decision on whether to vote to- 'rezone it ' or' not;-- a lot has- tc••do with whether. this- . parcei '•is better' any other: : Quite- frankly' the- availability ' ' • of municipal" water: and' sewer is one- of- the things that -is' unique • about this'fparcel. " Other- than that I'-don!t' know -that; I• am'-that • ® interested"in- -investing• any more• Money- or- time• in trying. to • ' rezone this' particular' parcel•.' - • _ 1.- r Mr. Hogan. . .you don' t think that's a prime piece of land up there for deVe'l opmeht? ••• - • .: • • I ! • Mr. Curtis . -. I think' there's a lot of prime pi"ecee . •- Think' f torn. ' - discussion we've had about water and sewer- and- need to bring' in: ' • - economic development, to be honest with you, it 'd be good to focus on geiserating economic development in an area- where we-•can- extend some municipal water for the Town, personally. This - '•- particular piece is attractive because that service is there now and will' take-he •years' to' provide- that -type of service, anywhere . else. But 'if•we're not going•ito be, using- It-for-that •reason, -I T. • don' t see• the• urgency:' ' • - Mr. Hogan-.'...Ben-,- the Village- has• Outright refused to give' any commercial' establ-ishmeritany water surrounding- the• Village:- They • . wouldn't-give Jim- Seafuse water, they- are-tighter: than- bark' on• a tree--with--water'. -•-Why•the.-hell--they're hoarding-it, •I••don't know, • but at this point in• the: game' I. don't• see• where- we should' hold- up this rezening'-because• the developer has, decided- that he- wants -to- put in wells •and septio&•systems• and he: doesn''6•'want to- negotiate with the Vi-liage•r• -I• wouldn'•t•-blame •him:' • •The•Nii l•age •has' a - 1 history of not *giving anybody-any -water-. -' My-way. of thinking, if you -took-•at this -document fron-:the .County -Planner/ •that-,regarding the zoning we applaud the goals of the B2 Zone; including'••"-• increasing the -town•'s' ;tex'=base to-tease •the•:tax'•burden'•on<the • - • residents; •creating•-a• new business-district compatible with • • • adjacent :residential- areas; 'providing -services and •new •jobs -in the comttunity;• providing -the •Town'with• more -reasonable control over sizeable 'commercial -development •and -creating 'more customers' • • . ,_ for businesabs -in' the •village; -and •providing- areas -for. light • industry:- Those are :the reasons that-wee:are•-thinking •about'• • • Town of Ulysses 4 ; Special Board Meeting May 12 , 1992 ` . rezoning this land. Water and sewer are secondary. Mr . Curtis . . .you could rezone a lot of parcels that meet that particular criteria; some of the parcels might not be adjacent to anybody that cares . Up here, you have people, saying. thoy don't want it . . Mr. Hogan. . .we've been over that sixteen thousand times ! Let's not reinvent the wheel . Mr. Schlecht . . ,don't think thr_ sequence is .•quite _ right, Ben. The developer has tried, from the outset, to talk to the Village. F : Several letters begging to talk to the Village and work with the Village and got absolutely no where. Despite that, we're still very willing to talk to the Village and very glad to hear you say that extending the water and sewer services is a good idea; I •• think so too. But time for those negotiations will be after the land is rezoned and before the development plan. The development plan will have to know whether or not it's going to be laid out for municipal services. Although the, plan we have contemplates . leaving the open space necessary. jto,. put- in a septic system. Mr. Curtis . . .what type of septic system are you putting in? • Mr. Schlecht. . .well , the total flow into the area is about 3000 . gallons per day, with a total build-out of twenty years , at the outset it would be a septic tank going: into a filter system, . • presumably. . • Further discussion with, Ben Curtis and George Schlecht regarding septic systems. Concerning some of Mr. Curtis remarks, Mr. Auble . said that when this parcel is rezoned we will finalize the ... development plan and those issues will be address [water and sewer] ; not• going to spend a ton of. money on engineering until we have at least the rezoning issue settled. Have a ten, twelve year activity here to get the zoning on. Mr. Hogan to Mr. Curtis . . .what we were talking about before you. came in was we want to work on this worksheet, Part II of SEQR and not kie.,up our town attorney for too long a period, so perhaps we can get going on this. Mr. Ra_chun. . .maybe Mr.. Wilson can advise the Town Board on • procedure._ -- Mr. Wilson.,.-..you first have to differentiate, between what you are doing now. which is discussing it for purposes for rezoning it • versus the development plan involved. What you are doing is rezoning at this point and then you will decide from there how this development plan affects, for instance, the water table, - which is a SEQR concern. Right now, looking at Part II you look for what. basically are flags and what is it about Part II that concerns the. Board and ,address those as they address the rezoning issue as opposed to the, development issue. Believe there will be -. another SEQR review when the development plan comes before .the Board for approval .. .What you are dealing with here, the • rezoning, you .can address everything. that's in the SEQR. Form,_Part II , you can raise those issues, but raise them in the . III context of rezoning and not what the actual draw will be, because • we don' t know at this point.. _ We have a unique zoning, is a unique scenario here, because ,it,it . doesn't tell you what the actual draw will be, you'll actually ' have to come out with figures _to the principles and that will. tell you more. You may have some ,of that before you, but what I think the Board has to do is address everything that is a red flag and then make a finding on it. My concern is that whatever. you do, whatever position you take, that you take a position as :r.: _ , - . Town of Ulysses 5 • . Special Board Meeting , May 12, 1992 • • opposed to just passing that' you find the SEQR review to 'be ' satisfactory, or ;unsatisfactory. EvArything ,�bat is• address or raised as an issue should .be aired Iand then , erminate Ithe discussion with a particular finding ao that at a liter time I can make- it ,part of y;qur .resolution .enpompassing the findings. • Your obligation on the SEQR, again, is just to review the process. All the ,conrta :will ;do is .make .sure you have reviewed everything„thst ,hgp„come up. . . . , . .•I: , • • -, , .. - ,,I' • r: .• , •• 1' t i• •,. - .. , . Mr. Schlecht... .may 1 just ,rrimind everyone that ray back in the beginning ;of -time, .some,Iyears••ago, ,whop„ this.,was going to be a _ request to rezone as business, .we-.were .asked :What did.:the impact on this action, rezoning, going to be for purpose of SEAR? That • was when we produced what is now being .called tha„development • . plan. We did that to show the eatedt of the rezoning aetion would have in terms of icapact .,on this area. We stated.,at that , time that this is for the maximum density that •you could eicpect'. I don't want to see ,the .findings ,of..therrezoninp now being made.. without at least referring to all that effort that -has gone 'iiito ' assessing what„action;.-what impact.-thia,.rezoning ,is_going to, . ,t, have. The impact of this reaoning' is-shown in terms of the'•ptans - that we produced and the_;evaluationsltha.t ,were_made. -It's not in a void. •r. , --,mir:•.r ,. .. -•Iir: -` . ! tf •i:• a : ,.I Mr. Wilfon�- . :ev� yt;h$ng,:t ant;;you :have that..you think !elf impact • on the; rezoning .is,befpre,.yourin,,Part I I , ',right? . .. , , ; r .. _ : . ' bc, II c. 1 ..5.4 IL' v. • - , , . •, ., :,,a • - Mr. Schleght., .exaptly. , . -: , , . ' ., - - ., * .. . r . . Mr. Wilspn. . ,,thatlis.whittihe-soerd�=i�}tgaspp•gp through ip,,the •_ process, otgtheir;.evaAuat�;oa .it,,;a-alI.in their .package. I 'm not sure;.ypui;aan.reAiverother SiQR,:iesues tbat„havel pcgu„red before • this, ,,sinpa ,hiistpry.,.becoMegAistery. „Not reviewing the development pipn.,,,in ,the,.,technipal aepse,,,at,. thia .stage. . ut,.. for purposes,of ,maintaining-,a. thorough;review.is:;nipde, then'•the . assumption is you've made a full environmental,aas♦esament: form. , disclosure, as everything rezoning issue occurred-: 'You're- entitled•itp look.,at everything..you_'ve;.get in.,there, .and.might , as well , and think you should make it binding on that'; even if it's ' - to say we„don,'k,,,have enough. information_on.the• development :plan „ at thistpoint, ,_. .4 h . . . . Mr. Hogan. . ysterting,.with.-the.-first.page, Impact on_Wetec, :we . have No. We raptr,tp,,,lapver.that. alright?_ . Maybe:,we don't need to .. go through ,eagk one-jot theses; the ones:we have sisall . te-moderate . . impact. . .number, 4. . . , .•. ..:: . . . . .. . ... .:. -.- - Mr. Curtis.. . .you,eterni, pii►9-,pver.iPAge:. 6?- - ' Mr. Racbun, . .that Prpduct1Impact , and. .theit:Magpitude, ,Part II , page 6, will the,proposea,;acti,on result: in'.physical change to the . . pro ject-,sits; ris; wept. over., that- .last:time around.,) /We did say Yes to that. ! .... I �.i , , „ 4 : .. . . Mr. Curtis. . .think the ones we hit are construction on land where - the depth of . water,,tabl,$; is. less. than three. feet. and the other • one was construction, that.:wi11 continue. f'or,;mrre:than one. year. III Mr. Rachun to.$r... Schlecht. . . the. concept; plp4,pertainly isn' t being avpidtq ;,when, SF,QR. ia.being submitted.,with he, development plan, I suppose you' ll resubmit Part I and probably it good . portion of Part II . . . Mr. Schlecht. . . I 'm just reiterating to avoid the charge of segmentation; it's not a question. of. avoiding, it ,.. we did what we • were required to do; we evaluated the impact of zoning: -- Town of Ulysses 6 Special Board Meeting • May 12, 1992 • Mr . Rachun. . .it's clearly two separate SEQR's. • Mr. Schlecht. :*I 'dod't'•eiuektionthat, I just'iiant"to be 'assured that we don' t• slip tip' here•'atid fall 'into a •trap '•• - •' Mr. Wilson. : : the Board-should 'go 'through -each-•one of the issues. Hr. Curtis. . .thi.nk we' hit: . :my-notes were °-construction will continue for more than one year or involve more' than• one phase' , the other one was 'construction on land where the depth of the water table is less than three feet ' . 'Again" I'm a little - confused here by-•uhat'-xou -seem'•to- be aaying•- that this-•-SEQR is-• -. simply. : :assumes- no development plan at all . • .. ..L .. . Mr. Wilaon. : :it assumes the-site plan: A . . . . •• Mr. Curtis . . .why does it assume the site plan? • • I • Mr. Rachut4. t tbedauie iui are Mapping' it` to that site. Mr. Wilson_. . ':basically• it's ;considering 'a Parcel-of Mr. Curtis. . .when you say site' Alin, you mean. ': : . ' • Mr. Rachun. . .that 's what George is talking about; it assumes the site plan. The -map- ii going -to be'•following'a` boundary 'line and - . -N what he's saying is that' here's a typical build-out; development plan as yet, but here's a typical build-out maximized to the inth degree, the biggest build-out you can have on ' that .. property and what he is saying. . .given that, you can make some assumptions that Qb- through=flQR`Part- II ;" giventhat,' but- that• • • doesn't mean that that's our development plan: L.• Atar =development plan will be submitted" when the development plan- i& submitted. end then the Planning Board; - the Tewn - Soard •have to evaluate that-on it 's own merit and 'may"be• the 'same ekact•'thing"or•-may -not. -It . - III will be -more detailed, . the- atchitectural plans, the lighting • • plan, the landscaping` plan. Mr. Curtis. . :the' build�out, meaning'that it can't exceed that? - • Mr. Schlecht. . :originally what -we ishowed' Ben was the -maximum build-out, a year and a half ago we said, look you can't build any more than this because the parking ratio to the square footage ratioajden't work: . .we spent some care -on that: You . • can't get any more, buildings on that ground and- maintain buildings that requi a seine parking, so that-'B the- maximum, the -' - worst case. Here's what that impact is likely to be' aflhat worst case, which we don't think is so bad, and here's our mitigated. One of the ways we talked- about mitigating it was development of a development plan, maybe we could mitigate some of these concerns by having conditional' zoning; - and then we'•said maybe we can Mitigate eclat of . these Concerns by ' rezoning B2. A lot of what is going oon' here is in response: to concerns of: the' neighbors that would in fact mitigate the very concerns that we are talking about. • Mr. Curtis.-. . I 'm jubt' trying to understand what- the review process we're reviewing-Part of it now and part ' of it:dater; just trying to sort out what we' re reviewing now. Because if this is rezoned B2' any't cteveloinei►t' plan can come in. Mr: Rachun. : . that-'s - correct. Mr. Curtis .and there is no way to determine maximum - build-out. : : f, .: - : .� !-.,;. Mr. Schlecht. . .yes there is, I take exception to that. • Mr. Wilson't : .underzoning requirements. al el Town of Ulysses ; ? Special Board Heating • : Hay 12 , 1992 „ Mr. Rachun. . .we have a parking pet: square foot ratio, and we have • set backs, height requirement: . Hr. Curtis'. . .doosn't thin become• it's own' zone, 82 ? Mr. Wilson. . . the other zoning requirements are still applicable,.,, Mr. Curtis ., . hav, a B21 zone a d it bprrows, fr m an ther. zone, , X9A. k !. . n , � ,R o how does that, wor 7 .; Hr. Wilson. . .whit 'you liave ma' B2 •ie. it would', comply, with, all of the zpp$ing. re L rements,, ,that was the second. paragraph. of, the Town.'Board.,. fkinimum; etandaids for zoning. are still out.there and what's being said is that minimum standards may have X number of parking spots, we have height requirements, set back • requirements. . . , �f::: ,. , , , ' 1.. . . i, • i s f. • • • Hr. Curtis. . .and. they are 'the lame kor ,a,il : di•stricts. . , Hr. Rachun.'. .yes, they are. 'the. same for all districts, but they are usually only applicable,.to a. busineis• district. We do have are regulations for,,hemo. occupations and size, regulations for. business„end,.itl•the ar,e,,pu ting,d.n ,a. hone up,_ there then. they_ , ' would have .tp.Meet.'€hat, crf erip.. • • • . _ . . ... . , : • Hr. Curtis. . . the set back requirements are based an use, ' not in districts. ,,,? ..,,• + - - , . . Mr. Rachune, set, ,ack:;requirements are based on districts. Mr. Curtis. . .we argil creating, as new district., , t . i t ': .=: •••••f7 ;C . ..• .. . =L ..• Hr. Ra h i .. , ® Hr. Curtis . . : .ut whiclildiatrict does it. incprporate. Mr. Hogan. . .cuaes. pst.pitted under-Article IV, . Section 1, . permitted uses, rightt, , Mr. Wilson. . .under D, the Codet. Enforcement officer. shall comply with all . othor•.,Town ,lawn. and. ordinances. and. State statutes, etc. • Mr. Curt`ia. .: that. of course: doesn't preference: any new zoning • districts. , • . • � . . Mr. Auble.. .we- .tried toi take.. in. every factor that: would affect the potential. minimum, build..outt,,. i e: don't see that, as,,a, near term situation. . t:. t . . . Mr. Wilson. and. Hr. Curtis discussed interpretatiop, of the zoning code. • ' ': 1 .: ii • cw ( .- • . Mr. Rachun. . . I think Ben is right on this. When we changed , business to 81; we might have to change,.. instead. of saying . business district might have to say business districts B1 and 82. In the zoning ordinance,, it ,says. ;business. district. . If- you look on page 6,, Section. 5, . .-:t,we stay. have; to. go. through this and put business district,. : . _ _ - _ . . . . . . ' ::., .. . .- ',:r.• : . . . ® .m : . . Mr. Hoga4cc►; . :mi.ne: syya. business districts . ..- r , Mr. ,Rachun.,_,.,soineiire plural, some_,aren't, we'.11, have to clean that up ,a: little. bit;: .that.'a, a. good. point. that Ben brought. up•. _ fr: . ;.. 1....,. ,. , M . .. ., Mr. Wilaon. . .al 1, .these,.things, will: be.-done, , set back, {r,iyztiaipe, ,. ,. these: wili. .4e_t,done iwhen, you ;have you'.re:.development. plin. , • . •• ' '''.' ' .' i •, i_ . . + . .• . ,t ' • . . .. , :' 1 . l• 4 r ;}. .f..J... .„ r . tlV •ry : r . ,.rj''•(.. . .1231;:? . +.•. f .;r 11�:.••_('•.. .' , id 1 r Town of Ulysses . 8 ' .1- Special Board Meeting May 12 , 1992 Mr. Rachun. . .correct Mr. Wilson. . . can' t get a building permit without submitting a plan. Hr. Rachan. .•.thit is correct . • • Mr. Curtis. . .guess my point is, and I 'm not saying you want to , incorporate business district set backs, think the whole idea F. would pull out flexibility; but when you' re talking about a build out you are assuming these are the sot backs, one, it's not referenced by the law and two, it's not clear to me that you want it. There may be areas that you want to have a greater build out than this. • Mr. Wilson. . .OK, what you' re basically asking, let 's go back to -• what we' re talking about, SEQR; that they are saying is that basically what is the environmental impact of the rezoning. They are working it out based on the only standard that they can probably work it out from, which is the existing. 81. Since there are no set back requirements stated in the statute for 82 , most of that having to do with usage or the natural mechanics of the • approval process; they are saying based on what they have there this is what they have, and that's the worst case scenario that we are dealing with. • Mr. Curtis. . .it's not the worst case because it just happens to be B1. I think what it would direct you towards is considering the SEQR action as jointly between this phase and the development plan phase, I don' t know how you can do that . However now we' re • segmenting the process and we're moving down the line parts of it and I 'm getting really confused as to which parts are moving down the line and which parts we aren't. If we' re considering all the • building at one time then we don't deal with the maximum build out because it's not in progress now. Mr. Wilaon. . .you can certainly, I suppose, use the same SEQR review processes, but in reality there's nothing stopping • them. . . they don' t have to submit the plan that they want to • • submit. . .it may not be the plan. If- it's rezoned, that will be basically the whole onus falls on them submitting a development ' plan to the Town Board which goes to the SEQR process. So what . • you have in the B2 is a more onerous process- than you have new, but for purposes of establishing whether this SEQR is . satisfactorily touching all the issues that a rezoning would incur, I mean you can raise every issue now that you want to raise later, . but it 's not a meaningful concept because they may never submit the development plan. The property could be sold. . . Mr. Curtis . . .my point: is, I don't understand raising, right now, a potential build out only to later deal with the actual build out . Mr. Rachun. . .well let's not do that . Mr. Wilson:.'. . let's not take up the Board's time with - hypotheticals. What I 'm saying is for the SEQR review now, something, assuming a SEQR is required for review of this • rezoning, I think it is, but all you can do is look at the III • potential of the effect of rezoning on it, not what the actual development plan is, because you do not have a development plan. Think in terms of whether we are complying with a thorough •review • of SEQR, which is just making- sure that the Board' reviews the environmental review of the rezoning aspect , they [developers], have approached it: from the point of view of worse: case scenario, • . and I would assume 'that's correct . Whether that development plan ' that they submit is something that the Board wants, given what • r �! � �r0 Town of Ulysa's 9 Special Boars Meeting May 12, 1992 they view the other issues on, thnt will come up later. You don' t want to segment the situation. Given what I see As, unique aspect1.of . ,,what we; are, doing here,. I don' t think w are. The whole, development/ plan is ,going to be submitted as, part of . the SBQR. It. aetually; lays out: in your B2 tone. that • a type 1 action under SEQR requires review. Mr. Raclwun. ...Fan we. go,pver soma, of these.,things and say the Town • Board has addressed this issue and they made a finding and the finding is that this will be looked at in depth when the ; development. plan•,is• in. front of. unor that. it's a small, to +, • moderate impact. or ,it 's,.potentially• a. large impact. and hap to. be "` addressed now. Can we just do, that now so we can get. the. ball rolling? ,, . .. , . . . .. Mr. Wilson. . . think you Should go through what ths , existing. BEQR is on this particular. . .you have an actual document for this, • right/ .. r, , .. ,• 11 :.I. i , '.1. I s: , . Mr. Rachun. . .we have a Y2, . we, are. l ooking, at Gt r. B2., nand,,we have , ,t', a site plan and we have a topo map on that site plan. Mr. Curtis. . .but the site plan has absolutely no. . . it 's not tied into this law at all,, is that ,right? ; It's not, binding? . Mr. Rachun. . .if the Town Board says , OK, we' re- going to make ,this . parcel up here a B2, it should be those boundaries that are presented by,.thei developer andhat'a what .you: are- doing. . . . H Mr. ogan. .r.yrhat Wei are talking:.about ,is a specific geographic area ithat we/ want.,to1 rezone..!•• •.• ,a. . • ; ,,_. . ,. ... . . . triu +Lai • „- , ;, • .: ' , , . _ • . . • Mr. ,c4 tis.r I4) attingtotP11oKyou : . •-1' • • ,. . .. : Ill Mr. Wilson. . .what you've been doing up to now is saying is this / the ;}ogiral. area \for,•. the number; oft acres ipvglved, what is, the impact,! n ,thef,enviinonment .a_ys j,ou ;go ,through. this as the; rezoning issue, kpepingt.it..apmewhat distinct from whether he is. going to. • do five buildings, two buildings, because I don't think you. have that yet . 1 ... .. . I •• i 4.. ., •Mr. Schl,echt.;...only .tp„the extent•lthat, we'.ve stated,..•here's, an assep,amept ,thatj.we'.ve. made. of .what the maximum effect..of. this. ,L . action can be. Mr. Curtis..,.i..don'.t understand, that.because;,. I: can understand in a month or• yhenever- we• talk.about .the. buildings and: we don .,t. talk • about. them. now; .We, ppt, dowp. ,'does. not •apply. at this time,'.- but: I . can' t say this is the maximum build out-ant this is What we' re going to talk about now, but we're not going to talk about any of the messy. details.,•,• I..don.t understand, that. .. . . . .• . 1,- . . , .... .. . . . . . .. :.. . ... .. :::i:,. • . •.:. ,t: . , r - . Mr. Wilson:, .you: dot have •to. go4hrough. the SEQR and if' it. kicks in on that Y4u, have to_ xespon¢i,to,:that.,and .make a finding. . The question„is tthat.,kicke in under, this_. cri.teriay. not: many. things: . . do. .. • . . III Mr. Rachun...my, e.uggestion,.is„to, gpr through it. . ,.. . , Mr. Wilson.„•.ultimatediy..if you•_go.through. it and..!. can make a finding as„to sach. .of. y_oiar. cvpcerns.,and."then..the Board can rule. on those findings, that may be redundant. I don' t- knob/ if. 'you have to relive the issue as to what this development plan maybe; you don'.t. have that; before., you.. . That is. premature. , . . Mr. Wilson and*. Curtis- .spoke, to.•thee a -same :issues. for several minutes. 1 :c , . ;; „. : , :.: ' . :,:: ..::Y5''- ::,'!...;11;.i'.:.11; q t°� Town of Ulysses 10 • Special Board Meeting May 12 , 1992 - , • • Hr. Hogan to Mr. Curtis: : .what we are basically baying is• that we •• - want to rezone that so it can be a comMercial development. Something's going to' happen there, because of the 'site of it it` will probably take more than a year- and it will ' iirobibly' go down- _, more than three feet, so we can talk about those issues. Mr. Curtis. . .but no conatruction' ie proposed at this time. • Re, ' talk about that later. • C . Hr. Wilson. . . the whole point la that you ere creating a new- zone, • . . that 's' the whole point' of what's been going on, that you've ' - • • • created a- generic 82;' you are 'now moving a' parcel into it which adds to the SEQR review of rezoning. Whatever project, if any project ever comes from it, is part of the SEQR review of a development plan. . OK? a : ' x - .. . Hr. Hogan. . .what you are saying is, if you're rezoning this to be a business district, obviously something is going to be built • • there someday;' what- impact is- that' going to have, OK: . i{ . L Mr. Curtis. . .yeah, but we don' t have to think about that now, right? Because you are going to do a' SEQR then it's proposed.' `. - l: : Mr. Hogan.-; . on a, specific deyelopment-. : Mr. Wilson. . .you have to make sure that you make"a thorough - ' review even if the review is going to be coming across as being somewhat .'we-don't know yet'' ,- just-defer -thin to the developntene . plan SEQR review because we don't know what the project is.. YOU ' a can do what Alex is saying and in certain instances that's what _ . you're going to have to do, in other• inatand W t'ou' can raise- them ->, right now. Mr. RadhUn... .seave of the''iesnea,= think' You' could bay 'in visaing- a '--' concept'of a' potentially' large -build out as provided -for -by the' •:- i" developer, -- we find •it to be a large impacit or- nd' impact' for' i' - -• zoning change. • Mr. Wilson. . .if. it is something that it would not be logical ; you' re asking questions about whether- this should be zoned- in-' - - • this categ'o'ry' you're no :leaking -if he's building a vehicle rents?' - - place. . . Mr. Curtis. . . I think that'becomes, critical when, by rezoning it, you authorite Alex �at thati point to write =a -building -permit. . .but all we're: doing: now is rezoning it so a devel'oper± cdn bring in a proposal , that `s all we're doing. • Mr. Wilson. . .you have to make findings no 'natter what• you like- • about it or don' t like about, it. What George is saying, to avoid segmentation; I think you avoid 'segmentation by--the fade that you have another .SEQR review of the development plan, but'• that ' -' a • . doesn't 'stop you from the' responsibility of -going' through number' by number. Mr. Rachun. . .i have no problem -with segmentation' Whatsdever. it III don' t believe there is segmentation here, I think we can look at this as a zoning change, a %Oning' 'change mapped -to -a parcel- that' we are doing a 'SEQR on ;now and 'then• it •aj -later date. do your development,. Mr. Wilson. . .make a finding* on 2'391,- on SEQR and then. I can write something up and the Board can take action. I would itemize it, make it clear, that the Beard' has weighed all the aspedts of • - SEQR. AMP MINOMENMEM — t 4d r ' i . 3 lr., '.1 ., t ':c l �':,$; .��.A.. 1!: t y > .r S •tl•..' '} r ":! ,.J t ,'+t.l.: )lh' r.�,�.. tif 111. Town of Ulysses ! 111.:: . Special Board Meeting ,• • j May 12 , 1992 Hr. Curtin. . .my question .now is are we looking now at what this action irrevocably commits the Town, what action it. commits the . Town to, and• it_' seems to: me - at this time; that :it doesn' t commit • the Town to very mueh' in+ the way:• bf action. '. i ; • Mr. t411bon. , .it resones ' the area from: what it is presently: to a B2 which is inclusive of everything that_ shows , in. here, notI. only usages but the- other: articles: that were incorporated. Sol it has • rezoned the land' and' therelaren' t other usages, , but: because: of the B2 having the development approval process, none of that can =, be used without going' back to; the: Town: Board.:.'. - t . • • Hr. Curtis . . .so it hasn' t committed the .Town. Mr. Wilson. ::.no'. it: gives the. Town. the: discretion of reviewing the development. . ., . .. . Mr. Rachun.-..it given - the: developer! the: right. to. submit a . development plan. and gives the Town: Board: the .right•.to .review the . development plan. :ea r :,; ! : _ : c c , . . . . . : : , . . . tl.: .. . , • 1 . MIL , • i - . ..: • Mr. Curtis-. . :then' thist doesn't. comnit-the Town: to very much. Mr. Wilson. . .but-'basically. -it still requires the processrto go as. we've set' forth hero.. . . .. ,r. , . •:., y Mr. Wilson and' Mr,•. Curtis^ eontihuedt to discuss. this issue at: some. length'. •Jlr:. Wilsoiv said..there area couple of ,other issues the • Board askedt him• to:,lookAntor and• as',he needa::to::leave,.: would dike to address those. issues.: ! One is ,Judge Rector'.hani been asked: by. the Town of Enfield to be an active Justice in Enfield from May 15 thrdtxgh tDecembsr•=31 ..:1992uto cf!i'1l outLa• term .vacated :by; the death of thetEnfield, judge: He- is:,appointed,.by :the .Judicial, :: Administrator' :ofdthem dii'stricts,but..in: order,:for this to":be done requires' the iconsent :of iboth .the:.Town :of: Enfield: and ,Town of Ulysses. Would like one of the Town Board: members- to: make :a . motion. ,.,.i .. ... ,• :,•• .i, 'i I. . Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following resolution: - ' • .I 1. : . .. .......f.::1'. .. . .. .. ... . BE IT' •RESOLV--ED+: that the Town: Board,.of the Town of Ulysses 'hereby- consents tot.the'iassignment"of: Hon,.: Roger.,N. Rector. Town Justice .of:'the •_Town :of :Ulysses, .to•:serve :as :Town Justice for the Town of Enfield for an interim period from May 15,1992 to December 31, 1992. Mrs.. Stover: asked •.if this''will'litbe:ai,conflict• with Judge :Rector holding court here? Mr. Hogan said court is held here on Wednesday night and Enfield will be on Thursday night . Mr. Wilson said he can' t find any reason, this .will .cause .a conflict . .. Hearing no further discussion, Hr. Hogan asked for the Board to vote. l , .. • :! ,:. . .. Mr. Hogan Mrs. Stover aye Mr. 'Curtis ' aye • .. .. ® Approved. _ . Mr. Wilson said the other item to discuss is .the issue .of • Receiver of Taxes. This is an elected office right .now. • Only .. way you can change it is to do it under a local law. The requirements are the same as with any local law, .publish and have a public hearing and then vote on it. If passed, it has to be passed sixty days prior -to the :election.2 flit local law before this November it would: then .be on :.thin . r. .. tt> e :^ 4.. .. . e•' .1 ye. � u4 '?,'eeY.. ey i. ' •:' . ..1 ....11 � .� d•; r. .. II .. Town of Ulysses . : 12 . • Special Board Meeting May 12 , 1992 " i November's ballot , because it. is a referendum issue and would . • require: a vote. •• If it is passed by that vote then it wouldn' t be . • on the ballot the following year as an elective office, the . • present incumbent would serve out the terra and then an appointment would take place in January. Do need to decide who the appointment would be for; if you want t0 make it a. delegation r. as part of that referendum to the Town Clerk, you can add it to :;.: be part of this or make a separate resolution. That part would not require a referendum and can be done at a later time. If it is going to become a responsibility of the Town Clerk, • Marsha may have some concerns to raise. This would be a '. personnel issue and can be addressed later. • If this •is going to be done, should be done now, should think of . scheduling a public hearing. Mr . Wilson will draft a local law. • Hrs. Georgia reminded the Board that she will not be available . for discussion until July, so. .perhaps. they would .consider meeting as soon as possible. The basic issue is salary. Mrs. Georgia said that the added responsibility and time should warrant the ' same salary that is currently being paid for this position. Mr. Curtis asked if there wouldn' t be any savings in combining the .. responsibilities? Mrs. Georgia said. at this time there is little contact with the public, once it comes back into the Clerk's ' . office there will be an increase in contact . . .people will come in personally to pay .their taxes. When Paula Mount was tax • collector people lined up to pay; . that decreased when it went to . mail . Mrs. Georgia added that she felt the pay was for. the • responsibility of the job, not so much the time involved. Mrs. Stover Saidthat ::additional help would be needed, too. , Mr.. - . Hogan asked who •would attend. to the Clerk's job while she was • collecting taxes'. _ Mrs. Georgia said :that Paula would still be working her regular hours. . . Hrs. . Georgi■ said that the job. would be done in a' timely fashion. . .. . . Hr. Hogan suggested that this be discussed later in an Executive Session. . Returning to SEQR, the Board continued. . .page 6 item 1, regarding construction 'on land. . .Hr. Curtis said that personally he'd put • down that no construction 'is being..eonsidered at this time; or it • . is to be considered •at such time that a development plan is . received.' . . . Mr. Rachun. . .should have a pat statement such as ' this could be • an impact and will be reviewed under SEQR when a development plan • is submitted'. Hr. Curtis. . .that sounds pretty good. . . .1 I . . .I. • . Mr. Rachun. . .we are going to do that with both ' construction on land where the depth to the water table ' and 'construction that will continue for more than 1 year or involve '? Mr. Hogan. . .yes . Item 2. . .said No. Page 7 , Item 3 . . .No. Item • 4. . .Yes. Use same statement? III Mrs . Stover. . . 'drainage from parking and run off may effect Frontenac Cheek tributary' . Item. 5 we didn't do anything. As . long as it is wells. . . . Mr. ,Nogan... . Dtem 'S. . .Yes? . Mr. Rachun. . .many of these things will be answered when the Health Dept. becomes involved. Town of Ulysses 13 Special Board Meeting . . May 12 , 1992 . Mr. Hogan. . .my question is should, we check it or not? Mr. Rachun. . .we don' t know so we can' t check it . We have to . assume at this point that the water is OK until proven otherwise. Can add our statement which will cover a. 00uple of the items . Mrs . Georgia. . .which statement do you want to use? Mr . Rachun. . .state under Other Impacts : could have impact on • surface groundwater, these impacts will be considered under SEQR when development, plans are reviewed. This covers the entire area. . . .,i • 1 1 - Mrs . Oeorgia. . .under' Item• 5, you are chocking potential ,large . , • impact under. Other 'impacts and stating. 'could have impact on surface groundwater, • quality/quantity, and will . be considered , . under SEQR when development plan is reviewed' . - Mr. Rachun.. .on Item- 6- will have basically the,, same, thing.. ! Check' . 'Yes' and. add` statement, On page 8, Item' 7 , Impact on Air .we , _ • • have No. .. Item 8, . Impact on. Plants and Animals, • would• say- No. • Item 9, again No. Under Item 10, Impact. on Ag.,Land .. . . . Resources. . .this was not in an agriculture district so would check Yes', under examples, .the third• one, would have to say could c. have potential large .impact because• of the- ten• acres . Also, under; Other Impacts•_,use,•Town• Board statement. • , . • Mr. Hogan. . . Item 11, Yes . Under Other Impacts: could have• an • impact on aesthetic resources and will be considered under SEQR when a development plan. is. reoeived. - Alao.-check potential large. - . . impact. �1 - , . . , : . . . . . .. .. . Mr. Rachun. . . right down the line, all . we. are- doing is• targeting areas.-where. the. Town Board•.haa..reviewed, this• zoning change. and- said .it.,is .something- that- we- will have to look at when a development plan is reviewed. Under Item 12, No. . Mr. Hogan. .. Item, 13. , Mr. -, Rachun• saidImy' response to that is that it was private land and 20. such is not -open to the- public and, when a development plan comes in, there may be some room to negotiate- for, some open. space% This •is, not..community property, ' but privately. .owned .reaidential land. . . This. is. my-opinion. - ' Mr. Curtis. . .before :we"had• checked. Yes. and. had the .statement • . . 'developing an open field, in -close proximity to-the Village' . • Seems it would--be. flagging- something that .we will talk about later. , . , • . . • .. , .., . , - - Mr. Rachun. . .it's the Board's call . In zoning I have to look at - it as. forty' .houses, . that'•s what israllowable up. there without any discretionary measures. • Iffthe Town- Board ,has discretionary measures-as to whether. that can be developed• at all ; • • • . Mr. Curtis. . : I don't think you• could get forty houses. up there. - Mr. Rachun. . ..let;',s put it like this,• you• can develops it. with a sub-division,,,without •any .discretionary• measure. . ® .•, , • . o. l •. .. ,,.r , .. , , Mr.Curtis. .:.you wouid.•hape. to, get •to. a .point where you'd have to approve. roads, and- things., , 1: Mr. Rachun. . . that's not discretionary. Our sub-division is set up so it's ministerial; .you;,meet. the. requirements, you have to take the roads.,..-Back to Item •1:i,. .just.•check ,Yes .and state . - 'proposed action- could affect„the quantity. and quality of existing or future open spaces and will be considered under SEQR when a .development plan. is. reviewed' . . • Under SEQR. you are going Town of Ulysses 14 Special Board Meeting May 12, 1992 to have a hard time making a statement to any effect about that property being open space that is important to the community without the community having any discretionary measures as to what can go on there that would limit the openness of that space; creating housing, etc. It is private property and they have by right , the ability to do a lot on that property that would close it off es open space. Mrs . Stover. . . farm land isn' t open apace. Mr. Rachun. . . / would say not . My personal feeling is if it is a State Park or the Town, for some reason, adopt environmentally • critical areas and the Town has designated Smith Woods , etc . . .big open areas, and you' designate them as important to the community, then yes, they are subject to this . There is no such thing as farm land ire our zoning ordinance; it 's • residential area. Mr. Hogan. . . Item 14 Impact on Transportation. Mr. Rachun said that could be• either, would say Yee and mark small to moderate impact. Could also use statement 'could be an impact on the existing transportation system and will be considered on SEQR when a development plan is submitted' . Mr. Hogan. . . Item 15, said No. Item 16, No. Item 17 , No. Item 18, Yes. Suggest under Other Impacts: 'proposed action could have an impact on character of the existing community and will be considered under SEQR when development plan is reviewed' . Would also check potential large impact. Mr. Rachun. . . Item 19, check Yes and make the same statement . This will go out as a negative declaration. I 've talked with George Schlecht and will do so again on some of the items we have said Yes to. They may be able to be answered in part when the development plan comes in. They may address some of those issues specifically as Part III of SEQR in a narrative form. They have already addressed some. Mr. Hogan. . .can we go right to Part III or do we have to start all over again with a new SEQR on this thing? Mr. Rachun. . .we have to do a new SEQR, but all I 'm saying is we have flagged some areas here, when they submit the development plan, if this thing is passed, they know what some of the concerns of the Town are and that within the framework of that development plan, they may address those issues. When we do the SEQR we may look at them and say these have been mitigated or it isn' t a large impact . To me it's one of the benefits of doing SEQR at this point before the development plan. Mr. Hogan said we have to decide when to have another meeting to discuss the financial arrangements with the Town Clerk. Decided to adjourn after the meeting to an executive session to discuss with Mrs . Georgia the position of Receiver of Taxes . Mrs . Georgia said concerning this position there has been nothing but complaints and upheaval the past few years. If it is the Clerk's responsibility she will see to it that the job is done and done properly. In the past haven't hesitated to pay the people in this position, who have been known to be incompatible with the duties of the office, and even though there have been problems the salary has been increased. I 'm not asking for an increase, but am asking that it be kept the same. I don't feel it is an unfair request . Mrs. Stover asked for a resolution for her to sit on Assessment Review. Mr. Hogan moved to temporarily appoint Catherine Stover to the Assessment Review Board, seconded by Mr. Curtis. Mrs. Georgia said she spoke with County Assessment and they felt Town of Ulysses 15 Special Board Meeting May 12, 1992 there was no conflict of interest and perhaps was a good idea to have an elected official serving on that board. Mr. Hogan said the Board will call Mr. Weatherby and ask him to vote on this issue. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye (by telephone) r Mrs. Stover abstained Approved. Hearing no further business the Board unanimously agreed to ' adjourn the Special Town Board Meeting. Respectfully submitted, Marsha Georgia pm TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING June 1 , 1992 • Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , • • • Robert Weatherby, Ben Curtis , Catherine Stover; Highway • Superintendent James Meeker; Zoning/Building Inspt . Alex Rachun; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount , Town Attorney Bruce Wilson. Others Present : Glen Chase, David Auble, Ruth Kahn, Joe Schrer, Greg Perreault . ® Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 30pm and led those in • attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United • States of America . •• Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mr. Curtis to approve minutes of the Regular Town Board Mtg. • 5/4/92 ; Special Town Board Mtg. 5/12/92 and Special Town Board Mtg. 4/27/92 . Mrs . Stover had one correction on the minutes of 5/12/92 . . .page 16 paragraph five - it was a question she asked, not a statement . Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye Approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department No one present . Mr . Reitz said he had talked with Kevin Roemer, Chief , and they are evaluating a demo-model fire truck that is available now. Will be available for inspection on Wednesday night at 6 : 00pm at Fire House and Monday night June 8th at the Village parking lot at 7 : 30pm. Municipal officers have been invited to view this truck. Will try to get a written report to us in time for our monthly meetings . Report : Representative James Mason Unable to attend. Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #190-225 [exclude #191 and #192/will be paid by payroll ] in the amount of $9, 657 . 06, moved by Mr . Weatherby, seconded by Mr . Reitz . Mr . Reitz asked to see a copy of the contract with Family & Children' s Services . Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye ® Approved . Supervisor's Financial Report Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 • Distributed and reviewed by the Board. Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Greg Perreault read and presented to the Town Board the following • petition: We the undersigned residents of West Main Street , Trumansburg, NY oppose rezoning of William Auble's 23 acre parcel on RT 96 in Ulysses , to B2 for construction of a shopping mall , offices and light industrial park . Such a development as presently proposed would increase traffic and noise, would probably lower our property values and would detract from the quality of life to which we are entitled in a residential neighborhood. This is signed by myself and eight of my neighbors . Mr . Reitz asked Mr . Hogan to read the names of the neighbors . Mr. Perreault. read: Sandy & Erik Arden, Greg & Greta Griffin, Jim & Marci Jacobson, Michael Griswold, Dane Hendrix, Cathie Vellak and Pamela Postle . Mr. Hogan asked how many of these residents are adjacent to the Auble development? Mr . Perreault said the Postle' s . OLD BUSINESS Zoning Change/Ruble Parcel Mr . Hogan said the Board needs to review SEQR once more and confirm our findings . Will then vote on SEQR and can then discuss rezoning the 23 acre parcel . Mr . Rachun stated that when a development plan is submitted a SEQR will be undertaken for the project . If the B2 is passed, change of zoning on this particular parcel . Mr . Rachun read SEQR, Part II , item by item and reviewed with the Board the determination made on each point . Mr . Wilson requested that the Board move/second and vote on each point and state their findings . Mr. Rachun read SEQR, Part II as follows : The determination for the SEQR, for a change of zoning for tax parcel 11-2-7 . 1 , from • residential to B2 . There will be a further determination of SEQR when a development plan is submitted. IMPACT ON LAND - #1 Will the proposed action result in a physical • change to the project site? #1 May have an impact and will be • reviewed under SEQR when a project development plan is submitted . Potential large impact checked by - Construction on land where the depth to the water table is less than 3 feet ; and Construction that will continue for more than 1 year or involve more than one phase or stage . Moved by Mr . Weatherby , seconded by Mr . Reitz , unanimously approved. #2 Will there be an effect to any unique or unusual land forms found on the site? The answer is the land is currently sallow farmland and there will be no large to moderate impact under SEQR as a zoning change . Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover , unanimously approved. IMPACT ON WATER #3 Will proposed action affect any water body designated as protected? There is no designated protected body of water in project area . Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz , unanimously approved. #4 Will proposed action affect any non-protected existing or new body of water? Yes . Under ' other impacts ' The stream, Frontenac Creek , may be affected and will be reviewed under SEQR when f l�' . 1 'i � •: ..':.-y . .1' .'y � ,,r .y;i , ". .'HrSr r n �•J .:�:~��n.'• ,. 'i 1G' ��•'r7!• •y"'�... .1::., -' . .. . . 44 3° Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 • development plan is submitted. Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover , unanimously approved. #5 Will proposed action affect surface or groundwater quality or quantity? Yes . Surface groundwater may be affected and will be reviewed under SEQR when development plan is submitted . Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover , unanimously approved. #6 Will proposed action alter drainage flow or patterns , or surface water runoff? Yes . Drainage may be impacted and will be reviewed under SEQR when development plan is submitted. Mrs . . . Stover moved, seconded by Mr . Weatherby , unanimously approved. • IMPACT ON AIR #7 Will proposed action affect air quality? No . Regulations contained within B2 inherently would not allow for • negative affects on air quality. See definition of light • industry. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover, unanimously approved . • IMPACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS #8 Will proposed action affect any threatened or endangered species? No . Land is fallow farmland and as such does not harbor any indigenous , threatened or • endangered species . Mr. Weatherby moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover, unanimously approved . #9 Will proposed action substantially affect non-threatened or non-endangered species? No. Land to be developed is fallow farmland and as such does not contain any indigenous , mature forest growth. Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mr . Weatherby and Mrs . Stover, unanimously approved. • IMPACT ON AGRICULTURAL AND RESOURCES #10 Will the proposed action affect agricultural land resources? Yes . More than ten acres of • agricultural land will be developed and impact will be reviewed under SEQR when development plan is submitted. Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded by Mr . Curtis , unanimously approved. • IMPACT ON AESTHETIC RESOURCES #11 Will proposed action affect • aesthetic resources? Yes . The proposed action may affect aesthetic resources and impact will be reviewed under SEQR when development plan is submitted . Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded by • Mr. Reitz , unanimously approved. IMPACT ON HISTORIC AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESOURCES #12 Will proposed action impact any site or structure of historic , prehistoric or paleontological importance? No. The land to be developed is not designated as archaeologically significant . Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz , unanimously approved. IMPACT ON OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION #13 Will proposed action affect the quantity or quality of existing or future open spaces or recreational opportunities? Mr. Curtis moved to indicate YES; no second offered . Mr . Reitz moved to indicate NO, seconded by Mrs . Stover . Mr . Hogan asked for discussion. Discussed privately owned property, land trust , ' open space' , etc . Hearing no further discussion, Mr . Hogan asked the Board to vote on item #13 as : 'No. The land is currently farmland and not currently used for recreation and no plans are available to provide recreational use at that site . ' Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby nay Mr. Curtis nay Town of Ulysses 4 • Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 b Approved. IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION #14 Will there be an effect to existing transportation systems? Yes . Traffic plan will be reviewed C ' under SEQR as part of the development plan when submitted. Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover , unanimously approved. IMPACT ON ENERGY #15 Will proposed action affect the community ' s III sources of fuel or energy supply? No . There is no known negative impact on energy source or supply . Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded • by Mr . Reitz , unanimously approved . NOISE AND ODOR IMPACTS #16 Will there be objectionable odors , noise, or vibration as a result of the proposed action? No . Regulations contained within the B2 would inherently not allow adverse noise and odor impact ; see definition of light industry . Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mr . Weatherby, unanimously approved. IMPACT ON PUBLIC HEALTH #17 Will proposed action affect public • health and safety? No . Proposed action would have no adverse impact on public health as defined by SEQR other than inherent dangers to construction industry . Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz , unanimously approved . IMPACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD #18 Will proposed action affect the character of the existing community? Yes . The character of the neighborhood will change • and impact will be reviewed under SEQR when development plan is submitted. [Mr . Curtis questioned item 2 . . .Mr. Reitz said that was if they were requesting municipal water . Mr . Curtis said that isn' t an impact on the basis they are not requesting water and sewer? Mr . Hogan said correct] Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mr . Curtis , unanimously approved . #19 Is there, or is there likely to be, public controversy related to potential adverse environmental impacts? Yes . Public • controversy has been demonstrated and impact of project will be reviewed under SEQR when development plan is submitted . Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz , unanimously approved . Mr . Hogan entertained the following motion, moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover : Together with the findings of Part I and Part II SEQR Environmental Assessment Form, the Town Board has determined the change of zoning for part of tax parcel 11-2-7 . 1 (including 23 acres) from residential to B2 to be determined as a negative declaration . Further SEQR review take place when a development plan is submitted . Discussion ensued . Mrs . Kahn said you are saying that after all this the SEQR has not shown a negative impact? Mr. Rachun said not on the change of zoning . When the actual development is brought forth, we will do SEQR on that . Mr . Curtis said that a vote to rezone this parcel does not commit the Town to any course of action. Mr . Rachun said that statement was made at the very beginning of this review, I said "This SEQR is for a change of zoning of tax parcel 11-2-7 . 1 from residential to B2 ; when a development plan is submitted for this change of zoning a SEQR will be undertaken for the project . " Mr . Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye .•i a+. G+ :L..' 1a!!', .•.ia�.: ii�.. .. . i:.•t.: :i v{ . , t cy i f fi 3aI Town of Ulysses Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 Adopted . Mr . Hogan react into the record the following : Resolution Amending Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance Adopted Pursuant to Town Law Sections 264 and 265 , and Ulysses Town Zonis Ordinance Article X Section 2 Whereas , the Ulysses Town Board duly called a Public Hearing for consideration of amending the Zoning Ordinance and Official Town Zoning Map to change certain lands presently zoned Residence District to become zoned Business District II (B2) ; and .. Whereas , said Public Hearing was held by this Town Board after due notice as required by law; and Whereas , the Board having reviewed the latest statement of the Tompkins County Department of Planning dated May 1 , 1992 relative to its zoning review pursuant to Section 239-L&M of the • New York State General Municipal Law; and finding already separately relative to the already created B2 Zone referenced therein; and noting the review of a Development Plan will require a separate Section 239-L&M review and SEQR review when applied for; and noting the generic concerns raised by the County Planner as to any future Development Plans ; and noting the concerns raised by the County Planner , which the Board finds can be • ameliorated by the development review process planned in all B2 zones ; and finding: • a . ) Village concerns are noted, but every effort has been made through joint meetings and discussions regarding this area over several years , to ameliorate their concerns ; and b . ) Traffic patterns have been addressed, as best as ® perooesnznbi,ng n h te hthar R A fp eo n oion nr me place sse ssmg e nt form abeinhe dteee d not possible at the stage of rezoning, as opposed to the Development Plan process review; and c . ) The issue of a consistent Town plan for the area and Town as a whole, for the best interests of the whole community and orderly development having been already addressed in joint Town Board and Planning Board meetings, The Board does hereby note the County' s Section 239-L&M review under New York State General Municipal Law, and acts based on its extensive review of the criteria set out therein; and Whereas , the area being considered appears to be a natural extension to Village commerce; and Whereas , the tax base would be able to increase in the Town without substantial investment by the Town; and Whereas , the use of a Business District in this area would help the Public Welfare through local job creation, and the providing of needed services ; and Whereas , this area is best suited to attract customers to a Business District ; and Whereas, the Board having fully reviewed the full environmental assessment form for this rezoning and at various public meetings discussed and considered same, finding previously ® a type I action under the State Environmental Quality Review Act and having made a negative declaration thereon; and Whereas , the area to be rezoned is in the view of the Board, consistent with a comprehensive plan in that it provides a logical area of commercial expansion needed by the Town; and Whereas , careful review of the alternatives and impact of rezoning on the Town, and its impact on the Village of Trumansburg having been considered at joint meetings , and comments of the Public having been discussed and addressed; and • Whereas , there has been after full Public Hearing and numerous meetings over years of discussion a need to encourage 1 `i'n.L .S•` .'�'1 , . ,:�i' . `)". .n ;•t`•,t� .� :i41' �Y ..�i•i,t{y,�A. ., .;.,'t.jS i'✓YSt� • Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 the most appropriate use of land throughout the Township, and in this area particularly , and in accordance with the Board' s comprehensive plan to develop areas adjacent to the Village as a logical area of further business development as one of the most advantageous points within the Township; and NOW, THEREFORE THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION IS PASSED Be It Resolved, that after careful review after Public Hearing and comment , review of environmental concerns , and to the comprehensive plan envisioned by the Board so as to provide for development for needs within the Town; the Board Hereby Approves III and Enacts , pursuant to its authority to amend zoning under Town Law Sections 264 and 265 , and pursuant to the amendment process under Article X Section 2 of the Town Zoning Ordinance, and • amendment to said zoning ordinance of the Town as follows : The following lands are rezoned to a Business District II (B2) as defined in Article IV Section 3B of the Zoning Ordinance: Business District Use Zone • Being 23 acres out of tax parcel map no . 11-2-7 . 1 presently • • owned by William J . Auble and more particularly described as set forth on Schedule "A" attached hereto, and shown on a Plat approved hereby , entitled "Map showing lands to be rezoned" prepared by George Schlecht , P . E . , L . S . dated September 18 , 1991 . The map is to be filed with the Town Clerk along with this ordinance to be part of the zoning ordinance map of this Town, and order the Clerk to duly file, post , record and publish same pursuant to law hereby enacting this ordinance as a zoning change of the described area . Mr . Hogan stated that he would like to vote on this issue • tonight ; Mr . Wilson said that a super majority vote will be needed. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, Mr . Reitz moved the foregoing Resolution as previously read into the record, seconded by Mrs . Stover . Mr . Hogan asked for discussion. Mr . Curtis stated that he had a III number of concerns regarding this document , and reiterated concerns made at other meetings . Thinks more needs to be done to address the concerns of the neighbors and the Village . • • Mr . Weatherby questioned concerns about the size of proposed development and will there be any control by the Town? Mr . Hogan said you are looking at a 20 year build-out; something to happen over the years . Do we have absolute control . . . the person who submits a plan has to conform to that plan and any changes will be reviewed by Planning and Town Board . • Mr . Weatherby asked if there was a concept plan in front of the Town? Mr . Rachun said No, the Board does not have a concept plan in front of them; you are just voting on a change of zoning; then • the developer will come in with a development plan and then it ' s • a new ballgame . They have to faithfully adhere to the requirements of a B2 zone, and the Board has to review that with that in mind . Then there are discretionary measures in there . Mr . Curtis asked Mr . Wilson if there is a change in our legal position with regard to reviewing the proposal for development III s once we rezone the parcel . Rezoning , as I understand it , is a legislative act , it originates from this Board, the Board has no responsibility to a property owner with regard to rezoning . • Mr . Wilson said the Board has a responsibility as to the community as a whole . If you rezone this , it 's a legislative act ; by rezoning it to a B2 you then have this property fall into the requirements of a B2 zone . Just so happens that a B2 zone, • Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 unlike perhaps other zones , requires any body to go back to the Board . At that point it ' s no longer a legislative act ; but it gives discretion with the Board . Pretty comprehensive in terms • of the things that you can review and decide upon . You can' t be arbitrary and capricious in terms of what you' re doing , but you can certainly set a variety of conditions , landscaping , etc . Mr . Curtis asked if the Board has to justify the decision that a building be 15 thousand as opposed to 30 thousand square feet . . . is there a shift in the burden of proof? Mr . Wilson said there is a shift because you are switching from a legislative act to a discretionary act . Anything within those • areas you can reject , set conditions on , or approve with qualifications . Any discretionary act is reviewable, so if you acted arbitrarily or capriciously, there would be an Article 78 proceeding based on that action . Think the B2 zone is written in such a way that you have great latitude . Mrs . Stover said a B2 zone is not really what she wanted to see, but it has more restrictions for the neighbors , more qualifications to give the neighbors protection that a B1 does not have, and although I wasn' t happy with it , felt it was better • than what we had for that area . Hearing no further discussion Mr . Hogan asked for a roll call vote : Mr . Weatherby aye • Mr . Curtis nay Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Hogan aye Adopted . Street Lights - Shursave Grocery Mr . Wilson said he is trying to get together with NYSEG to get the contract they require . Mr. Hogan suggested tabling this item until more information is received . Before leaving, Mr . Wilson presented the Board with a draft resolution regarding the Receiver of Taxes , for their review . The timetable on this is if a mandatory referendum takes place it has to be passed by this Board more than sixty days prior to the November election . You have plenty of time, but it does require you to do as with any local law, have a published notice and public hearing . Mr . Hogan said the Board is trying to transfer the responsibility of Receiver of Taxes to the Town Clerk ' s Office; thus taxes can be paid during regular office hours . Mr . Reitz questioned the title . Mr . Wilson said one person cannot hold two elected offices , however you can have an elected officer and transfer responsibility from another office to that person . Technically you are abolishing the elected position of Receiver of Taxes and assigning those responsibilities to the Town Clerk . Water Project Mr . Curtis reported he had met with folks from Town of Ithaca, Bolton Point . Originally the Planning Dept . was steering us toward making an application for an ARC grant to bring water from Iradell Rd . up to Jacksonville . Was confused why that option was • • Town of Ulysses B • Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 chosen. Mr . Hogan explained to Mr . Curtis , and filled him in on earlier meetings that had taken place . Mr . Curtis said he feels the Village would be reluctant to get • into the water business , however the Village needs to upgrade their water system and perhaps this could be pursued as an avenue to follow . Other avenues were also discussed . Board asked what type of money was available and expenses looking at . . . total identified by Planning Dept . had a maximum of $400 , 000 . from HUD; $150 , 000 . from ARC; $500 , 000 . from regional economic development partnership . Further discussion took place and was decided that Mr . Hogan would speak to Jim Hansen and James Mason , see if there is money y` budgeted at County Planning to cover expenses of finishing up the survey the Town had sent out a couple of years ago . County Planning has done a tabulation of 73 of the total of 637 . . .Mr . Curtis has asked them to complete that and was told they would at • a contracted expense . Health Insurance Mr . Hogan stated that a representative from Blue Cross/Blue Shield had presented another option to Town employees , would save money and provide about the same coverage. . . it ' s a Community Related Group and has many more people covered. No prescription card, but would reimburse S0% of the prescription costs . Mr . Meeker and Mr . Rachun expressed they would like to see other versions offered under the Community Related Group, know there is more than one . Also, other options under the present Region plan . Mr . Hogan will contact the representative and explore other options . IIINEW BUSINESS Intermunicipal Youth • Mr . Hogan stated that he had received a letter explaining the formation of an Intermunicipal Recreation Committee; currently 130 school age children living in Ulysses who reside in the Ithaca City School District . This committee ' s mission is to create a plan to provide equal access to recreational programs to all families whose children are in the Ithaca City School District . These people live in the Town of Ulysses , pay Ithaca School taxes and are not allowed to participate in their recreation program. Have a person, Rich Shappell , who is willing to serve on that • committee . Mr . Reitz said that he had attended this meeting . Should be recognized that the activities they were discussing at this meeting are presently covered by our recreational programming , which is mostly supported by the Village . Think that it would be a good idea for someone who is on the Joint Youth Commission to serve on this new committee. Mr . Curtis stated that the purpose of this committee is to focus on these kids in the Ithaca School district but in other municipalities . They have people there from Dryden, Enfield, etc . Solutions that this committee generates has to come back to • this Board. They need time to formulate a solution, determine money needed, etc. Mr . Reitz said you are really talking about the responsibility and roll the Joint Youth Commission should be serving . Think it should be their roll to make a recommendation back to the Board . tom, :Y•.i 't!r if . . .,:. r. �:.i ,r, r, " .I '.r 44 V3/4 Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 Because of funding problems , should be a municipal representative . Will be a meeting of the Joint Youth Commission on June 17 . Bring this to their attention and see if they come back with a recommendation of an individual to represent this municipality on that committee . The Board agreed with this until hearing a recommendation from the Joint Youth Commission , Mr . Hogan said the Town has youth services available . If you want to go elsewhere to participate, then that ' s up to you. Lot of duplication of effort . Mr . Reitz said he had received a letter from the Learning Web, • they are asking to come and make a presentation to the Town Board. Didn' t want to commit until talking to the rest of. the Board, Mrs . Stover said that last year Joint Youth Commission took all the groups that were asking for funding and made a presentation to the Town Board. They have the expertise. Suggest that the Learning Web be turned over to the Joint Youth Commission . Mr . Hogan and the other Board members agreed. RT 227 Speed Reduction • Mr . Reitz said he attended the meeting of the Planning Board regarding the American Legion . Was an obvious request regarding an ongoing problem of traffic speed on RT 227 . They are interested in having the Town request of DOT a reduction of the speed limit . Should it come from a petition from the residents? Mr . Hogan said it is normal to receive a petition from the residents . ® REPORTS Deputy Clerk Paula Mount reported that $1 , 861 . 90 received for the • month of May of which $1 , 230 . 43 was turned over to the Supervisor with the monthly report . • Highway Superintendent James Meeker reported they are sanding and • painting salt boxes , mowed, patched roads , hauled stone . Will be • attending Highway School. at Ithaca College next week . • Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun reported issuing eight permits for May . Had one ZBA meeting dealing with an animal clinic, will be setting up on RT 96 across from ShurSave grocery . Correspondence Mr . Hogan listed correspondence he had received. Mr . Hogan moved, seconded by Mr . Curtis that a public hearing be held on Monday , July 6 , 1992 at 7 : 00pm, prior to the Regular Town Board Meeting. The purpose of the public hearing is to hear comment on abolishing the position of Receiver of Taxes and • making it a duty of the elected Town Clerk . Unanimously approved. Hearing no further business , Mr . Weatherby moved to adjourn to an executive session, seconded by Mr . Reitz . Unanimously approved . The Board reconvened at 11 : 15pm and Mr . Hogan moved to adjourn the Regular Board Meeting, seconded by Mr . Curtis and unanimously approved . Respectfully submitted, Town of Ulysses 10 • • Regular Town Board June 1 , 1992 Paula J . Mount Deputy Town Clerk p Y i i .: �' . . .. Sinn TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING July 6 , 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover , Robert Weatherby , Ben Curtis ; Highway • Superintendent James Meeker; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . • Others Present : James Mason, Greg Perrault , Jim Brown, Ron VandeBogart , Charles Oaks . Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Town Board Meeting to order at 7 : 30pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mr . Reitz , approval of the minutes • of the Regular Town Board Meeting of June 1 , 1992 . Unanimously approved . Report : Trumansburn Fire Department Mr . Reitz , on behalf of the fire department , stated that the • Village of Trumansburg approved the purchase of a truck. Report : Representative James Mason Mr. Mason reported that the sheriff ' s budget has generated a lot of concern. Had a couple of meetings with the sheriff and budget people and will be maintaining road patrol at the current level . This has been achieved through creative budget adjustments . Discussion ensued concerning coverage by road patrols in Ulysses and Tompkins County, 911 and computer dispatch system. • CLAIMS • Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr . Curtis , seconded by • • ® Mr . Weatherby to approved Claims #226-264 in the amount of $10 ,708 . 84 . Mr . Reitz moved to withdraw voucher #255, the overcharge on the tax reconciliation, until there is clarification on how this will be paid. Mrs . Vanderbilt , Town Bookkeeper, explained inter-fund transfers . After discussion, Mr . Reitz withdrew his motion. Mrs . Stover moved that $558 . 10 be transferred from Contingency Fund 1990 . 04 to 1330 . 04 , seconded by Mr . Reitz . Unanimously approved. Mr . Curtis asked for supporting documentation to be attached to • • the vouchers; several from the Justice Department . Mr . Hogan • will speak to the Judge. Hearing no further discussion on the claims , Mr . Hogan asked for a vote . Mr. Hogan aye - Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved. Supervisor' s Financial Report Distributed v..Uli .11 TOW11 Hord M'•”f 40 July 6, 1992 irnl v • OLD BUSINFSR Water Project Mr . Curtis said that he understands that the County will tabulate the water survey results . Think it would be useful if the Town Board would endorse a letter to the County indicating some commitment to pursue, if feasible, a proposal for providing water • • and a request that the County loan the Town money under the program they have established . Mr . Hogan read a letter received from Karl Heck (on file in Supervisor ' s office) . • • Discussion took place regarding various monies available, what needs to be done, updating engineering study . • Mr . Curtis said the key word is feasibility . Need to identify • the funding sources that we would qualify for . Need to have something in writing that the Town is willing to proceed with this . After further discussion Mr . Hogan said that he would be willing • to put together a letter of intent . Mr . Mason said there are three projects that would receive priority in Tompkins County; two are in the Town of Ulysses . . . one is the Jacksonville project and the other is upgrading the Village sewer system; the third is the County airport . So out of some four million corning into the County, numbers one and two on the list are in the Town. Mr. Hogan said that step one should be identifying a potential water district . Need to identify that before authorizing money to be spent . Once identified, submit data, then spend money . Mr . Reitz said there are several areas in the Town that need water . Mr. Curtis said if a feasible plan can be identified, water taken to that area, cost distributed on that district so that , in the long term, from the Town' s point of view, it would • be revenue neutral . Is that something that the Town would pursue? Mr. Hogan said he would say so. Mr . Curtis said it doesn' t sound like much of a commitment , but think that would be the first step even before we ask County Planning to begin doing the compilation of the water survey . Mr . Hogan asked what Mr . Curtis meant by revenue neutral . Mr. Curtis said that the cost would be spread over the water district not the entire Town. Mr . Reitz questioned the due date on the ARC grant . Mr . Curtis said it was mid-August . Mr . Curtis said there are several items required; will take effort , time and money to come up with. Mr . Hogan said probably won' t have that information by mid-August , but you are looking for some commitment from the Board; based on the feasibility . Mr . Hogan moved, seconded by Mr . Curtis the following resolution: RESOLVED : that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses is supportive of a water district that is self-sufficient . When sufficient information is presented to identify the district , an estimate of the costs involved to do an engineering study, that the Board will seriously consider the project . Mr . Hogan aye 1,1 4#11. Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting • July 6 , 1.992 Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye • Mr . Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye Adopted . ® Health Insurance Mr . Hogan said an alternative to the Town's present health insurance plan has been discussed; met with the employees and Blue Cross/Blue Shield representative. At last month' s meeting several questions were raised. Have called the rep to get answers to those questions . • Mrs . Mount pointed out that Mr . Meeker and Mr . Rachun had asked to see the other plans available in the Regional Group and the Community Croup so that comparisons could he made . Mr . Hogan • will contact the BC/BS rep and ask him to come and meet with the • employees and present the different options . • Mr . Hogan announced that he and Hugh Hurlbut , County Personnel will be meeting on July 17 at 8 :00am to review the Town' s • proposed Personnel Policy . Interested people are invited. • Street Lights - ShurSave Grocery Mr . Hogan spoke with Bruce Wilson who is waiting to hear from Jim Seafuse' s attorney. Also spoke with NYSEG . The Town will have • to be billed for street lighting; think it would he about $560 . • • per year, and we in turn would bill Jim Seafuse. Youth Commission • Mr . Reitz stated that there are two representatives to the Youth Commission; one municipal and one parent/resident representative . The Joint Youth Commission has asked Mr . Reitz to be the municipal representative and Rick Shappell to be the Parent/Resident representative . Mr . Reitz moved the recommendation of the Joint Youth Commission that Thomas Reitz be appointed to the Ithaca Youth Committee as the municipal representative and Rick Shappell be the Town of Ulysses parent/resident representative , seconded by Mrs . - Stover . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz abstained Mrs . Stover aye • Mr . Weatherby aye Mr . Curtis aye • Approved. • NEW BUSINESS Rabies 1 Mr . Hogan read a letter from Frank Proto, County Board of Reps, who was asking if the Town would be interested in participating in a program where the County responds to nuisance wild-life calls which are precipitated by the callers concern with the animal acting strangely . [see complete letter on file in the • Supervisor' s office] . There would be a financial commitment . Mr . Hogan said there isn' t anything in the budget to pay toward taking care of the rabies problem. Suggested letting the agencies presently handling this problem to continue doing so. • Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting July 6, 1992 After discussion, Mr . Hogan said that he will send a response . REPORTS • Mrs . Mount , Deputy Clerk, reported $1 , 980 . 80 collected for the month of June of which $1 , 441 . 58 was turned over to the Supervisor with the report . Mr . Meeker, Highway Superintendent, reported the highway department has been cleaning ditches , mowing. Mr . Hogan read Mr . Rachun's Building/zoning report . Issued fourteen permits . Mrs . Stover reported that the Master Plan Committee will be meeting again on July 14 at 7 : 30pm. Mr. Reitz brought to the Board' s attention that a public hearing had been held on a local law and that action needs to be taken by • August 1 in order to be on this year ' s referendum. Mr . Hogan said that there will be time to do it at the next Regular Town Board Meeting. Need to meet with the Town Clerk also. CORRESPONDENCE Mr . Hogan listed correspondence received. Hearing no further business, Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn to an Executive Session, moved by Mrs . Stover, seconded by Mr . Curtis and unanimously approved. The Board reconvened the Regular Town Board Meeting and , unanimously adjourned at 10 : 20pm. Respectfully submitted, Paula J . Mount Deputy Town Clerk pm of 1 • TOWN OF ULYSSES PUBLIC HEARI "1 July 6 , 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , i, Ben Curtis , Catherine Stover , Robert Weatherby; Deputy . Clerk Paula Mount . • Others present : Jim Brown, Ron VandeBogart , PURPOSE: To hear public comment on a Local Law transferring the duties of the Receiver of Taxes and Assessments to the ' elected Town Clerk and abolishing separate office of Receiver of Taxes and Assessments . •,. Mr . Hogan opened the public hearing at 7 : 05pm and read the Local Law as prepared by the Town Attorney and advertised, as follows : Be it enacted by the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses - . as follows : Section 1 . The elective office of Receiver of Taxes and Assessments shall be abolished as of the first day of January succeeding the first biennial town election held after the effective date of this local law, and the duties , powers and functions thereof shall be the duties , powers and functions of the elected Town Clerk of the Town of Ulysses . , • Section 2 . At the biennial town election succeeding the effective date of this local law, no Receiver of Taxes and Assessments shall be elected and upon the expiration of the term of office of the Receiver of taxes and Assessments for whom no successor shall be • elected, the duties , powers and functions of that . office shall become the additional duties, functions and responsibilities of the elected Ulysses Town Clerk, commencing with the first day of January succeeding the .. ill expiration of the term of office of the Receiver of Taxes and Assessments . Section 3 . This local law shall supersede all inconsistent prior Ulysses Town Laws and shall be pursuant to the authority of New York State Town Law Section 20 (4) allowing same. Section 4. This local law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State and • after approval by a majority of the electors voting in • accordance with the requirements of Section twenty- three of the Municipal Home Rule Law. Mr . Hogan asked for comments . Mr. Brown - stated he feels that it definitely should be the responsibility of the Town Clerk. This is the only township in Tompkins County that has a separate tax collector . Seems to me that when you come up here at eight o' clock in the morning you should be able to pay your taxes until four in the afternoon. Don' t see why it can' t be open during lunch hour, too . Mr . VandeBogart - stated that the tax collector should be in the ® Town Clerk's office and available to the public. Hearing no further comments, the public hearing was closed at 7 : 25pm. Respectfully submitted, :,. . Town of Ulysses 2 Public Hearing July 6, 1992 Paula J . Mount Deputy Town Clerk • • TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING July 21,1992 Present: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine • Stover, Tom Reits, Ben Curtis, Robert Weatherby; Paula Mount, Deputy Clerk; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Others present: Ruth Kahn, Mary McLallen. Supervisor Hogan called the Special Board Meeting of the Town Board, Town of Ulysses to order at 8:00pm. Mr. Hogan said the Board has received the rocommendation from the Planning Board regarding the request for a PUD from the American Legion. Mr. Hogan read the cover letter which stated that they :,. want on the record the Legion's agreement to each and every condition contained in the approval . If they don't agree, the Planning Board suggests that the Board not proceed. Discussion ensued. Mrs. Stover suggested that the Legion present their plans, etc. at the start of the public hearing. Mr. Reits moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover to have a public hearing on the request from American Legion Post 770 for a PUD on Route 227 for Tuesday, August 18, 1992 at 7 :00pm at the Trumansburg Fire Department. Unanimously approved. Mrs. Mount will set this up and advertise a legal notice in the FreePress and an unpaid item in the Ithaca Journal . Notice will be sent to all adjacent property owners. Mr. Hogan stated that he had a call from Jim Mason. Health Dept. on Village to upgrade their water system. Perhaps they will consider extending lines to Jacksonville. Discussion took place. Mr. Hogan spoke with Village Mayor Bennett and the Town Board will attend a meeting at the Village on Monday July 27, 1992 at 8:00pm. Mrs. Stover reported that the Master Plan Committee had met. They had an estimate from the County 'Circuit Rider' for $14.00 per hour to do maps. Mr. Hogan will speak with Jim Hansen concerning this. Hearing no further business Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover to adjourn the Special Board Meeting. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 9:30pm. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount Ulysses Deputy Clerk 'Mr • TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING August 3 , 1992 • Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine Stover , Thomas Reitz , Ben Curtis; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . Others Present : James Mason, Kevin Roemer, Ruth Kahn, Mary • McLallen . Supervisor Hogan called the meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 30pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes of the Regular 42. Town Board Meeting of July 6, 1992 and Public Hearing of July 6, • 1992 ; moved by Mrs . Stover, seconded by Mr . Reitz . Mr . Curtis questioned page three of the Reg. Board Meeting, regarding his statement . Mrs . Georgia will review the tape and see what was actually stated. v Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved. • Report : Trumansburq Fire Department Chief Roemer reported activities of the department for the month; new truck purchase, training hours , OSHA regulations . Report : Representative James Mason Top priority is Solid Waste. Restructured Solid Waste Division budget . Costing around $300 . ton to recycle plastic; going to have to cut back on plastic. Newsprint was put out to bid, Bob Weatherby got that for handling all newsprint , using a facility for shredding for animal bedding, no charge to County . Discussed recycling, cost , etc . Mandatory recycling will begin September 1 . Talked about renovating old jail , cost , usage . Claims 14r . Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #264B-294 in the amount of $7 ,775 . 29 , moved by Mr . Curtis , seconded by Mrs . Stover . There was extensive discussion initiated by Mr . Curtis regarding having an invoice attached to each voucher . Also questioned the UYU voucher. Mr . Hogan will get reports submitted to him and give Mr . Curtis copies . = Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Curtis aye Approved. Supervisor' s Financial Report Not available. OLD BUSINESS to '44 Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Board Meeting August 3 , 1992 Water Project, Mr . Hogan reported that he spoke with Karl Heck . Met with Village and Mayor Bennett will get a letter to us indicating interest in forming a partnership to provide water for a water•‘ • district . Mr . Curtis will meet with Mr . Hogan on August 4 and work on the grant application . Mr . Hogan continued . . . Tom Reitz took information provided by the • water survey and put it on the map [maps displayed] . Mr . Reitz explained what the maps showed. . . green indicates Yes/ Interested in Public Water; red indicates No/Not Interested. Pointed out • the areas of intense interest . Short discussion ensued. Health Insurance Mr . Hogan reported that the Blue Cross/Blue Shield representative attended the last Special Board Meeting; alternative Community • Plan looks good; would save approximately $22 , 000 . per year . Faxed additional information showing options under the Regional • Policy. Current rates and proposed rates were compared. Monies paid monthly into the insurance by retirees was questioned. What account is this revenue deposited into? Reimbursed for four singles and two families . Mr . Hogan said • that with new policy will save about $17 , 000 . per year , looks good and feel we should definitely go with it , the question is when. We need to either economize here or the employees will need to pay a portion of the medical costs . Think we can offer some compensation, when negotiating with employees this Fall , to help with prescriptions , since they will lose that benefit . Perhaps consider $500 . ; another way, can look at a percentage of increase in pay to off-set the additional costs of prescriptions . Will need to discuss these different options . Need to, at this time, decide if this is a good thing for the Town to do and if so, when do we start it . Mr . Meeker felt that no change should be made until January 1 . Mr . Hogan felt that was reasonable. Mr . Reitz felt that the retirees need to be notified about the changes . Mr . Hogan said he would like to see a decision made at the September meeting, probably reasonable to give the employees three months notice . Street Lights • Mr . Hogan hasn' t heard anything concerning this situation. Personnel Policy Update Deputy Clerk, Paula Mount had distributed copies of the personnel policy that had the recommended changes of the County Personnel Director to the Board. The Board reviewed and wants the Clerk 's office to type the changes in and distribute a clean draft to the Board and the department heads . Mr . Curtis asked questions about exempt and non-exempt employees . He will call the county for this . Mr . Hogan asked the Board to review again after they receive this clean copy and it will be on September ' s agenda . II/ Mr. Reitz handed out a copy from past minutes in reference to the tax collector ' s salary and how that will be distributed. Mrs . Stover asked what the Board wanted to do about the request from the master plan committee for maps . They are meeting tomorrow evening . Mr . Hogan will speak to Jim Hansen to see what kind of help we can get from the County . Mr . Curtis will be meeting with the Planning & Development Committee and would like je GPI Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Meeting August 3 , 1992 to speak on behalf of the Town Board . . , concern about having to pay for County service , they are there in part to help County residents . Mr . Reitz said that he would like to see the policy statement passed by the Board of Reps regarding the Circuit Rider . • • Discussion ensued . Mr . Hogan and Mrs . Stover felt that Mr . Curtis could speak on behalf of the Board . Mr . Reitz withheld his support . Mr . Hogan said he told Karl Heck that we would be there by Friday • of this week with information required by the water project . Mr . • Reitz asked Mr . Hogan ' s intention; where is the water district • going to be? Mr . Hogan said will have to figure one out from the • map . . . down RT 96 through Jacksonville . He and Mr . Curtis are meeting tomorrow night . NEW BUSINESS • Update Zoning Ordinance 77 • Need to update maps , PUD' s , etc . Mrs . Georgia said need to get everything together and contact an engineering company to give an estimate. Mrs . Stover suggested looking into Jeanne Barrett doing some of this . If what she is going to do for the master plan committee will cost about $1 , 500 . , perhaps some of that work would overlap what we need for zoning . Mrs . Stover will call Jeanne and see what she can do for us . Mr. Curtis asked how large a job it would be to input the zoning III ordinance into the computer . That way, could update . Mr . Hogan asked if there were any students available to input this document • . .Mrs . Georgia said No. Mr . Curtis asked Mr . Hogan where he was on the other computer . . . have several projects and would be useful to have a second computer . Mrs . Georgia said that changes need to be made throughout the zoning ordinance document before typing . Local Law/Receiver of Taxes Mr . Hogan asked Mrs . Georgia if she had seen the Local Law; still need to vote as to whether or not we want to do this and also negotiate with Mrs . Georgia as to salary for this position. Mr . Hogan said he spoke with the Assoc . of Towns and was told • that if the local law is passed, it does become a duty of the Town Clerk. Mr . Hogan asked Mrs . Georgia how she felt about this situation and she indicated that she had expressed her opinion at an earlier date and had not changed it . Discussion took place . Mr . Hogan said that the Board would negotiate salary in good faith with Mrs . Georgia . ® Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to pass the Local Law transferring duties of Receiver of Taxes and Assessments to elected Town Clerk and abolishing separate office of Receiver of Taxes and Assessments; moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mrs . Stover . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr . Curtis aye Adopted. • . Nsd metil Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Board Meeting August 3 , 1992 REPORTS Town Clerk Marsha Georgia reported that $2 , 147 , 94 was collected for the month of July, of which $1 , 757 . 24 was turned over to the Supervisor. Highway Superintendent James Meeker reported the crew had mowed • and cleaned ditches , stone and oiled roads . Zoning/Building report was submitted and read by Mr. Hogan . III • Issued 10 permits . Mr . Hogan reviewed correspondence received. Hearing no further business , Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to • • adjourn, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover . ' Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 11 : 45pm. Respectfully submitted, • ® r. 1 .ti.• ;ii +i'.' • '1 + " • 1 ,.. ;;�}•••• , r'. I.•c..,P.,t is • i ,?. , .: , 49 t •.,. • • TOWN OF ULYSSES ;:_ • PUBLIC HEARING August 18 , 1992 • • Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , - • Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis , Robert Weatherby; Town , Clerk Marsha Georgia; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount; Zoning Officer Alex Rachun. Others Present : See Sign-In sheet . PURPOSE: To hear public comment on the request of Arthur E. . Bouton American Legion, Post 770 for a Planned Unit Development located on Route 227 . Supervisor Hogan opened the public hearing at 7 : 00pm and • introduced the Town Board members . Mrs . Georgia read the Legal • Notice published in the Trumansburg Free Press the week of July • 27 , 1992 . Also sent to the Ithaca Journal for publication in the Meeting Notices . Adjacent neighbors were notified in writing. Phil Colvin, representing the American Legion, presented a petition of names in favor of the PUD. He gave a presentation on the history of the Legion, community involvement and need for the new facility . [Document on file in Town Office/Legion file] • Mr . Colvin turned the floor over to the representative from Matrix Architects who presented the site plan [on file in Town . Office] and explained the project . Mark Corl - presented petition opposed to PUD. Also had display of photos and maps showing character of neighborhood; color coding indicated homes in area and those opposed to project . Also voiced concerned about traffic, noise, DWI 's . Not sure the people in the area's concerns are being met . Would seem they .. [American Legion] could find a better site, one that isn' t as detrimental to the neighborhood. It ' s spot zoning in our opinion. Introduced his attorney , Dirk Galbraith. Dirk Galbraith - represents Mr . Corl and Mrs . McLallen, near neighbors to the site under consideration. Serious legal problem • with proposed zoning change . . . textbook example here of spot zoning. Town doesn' t have a comprehensive plan, no history or • reason why the Legion has been proposed for this spot . This is a residential area . What will happen to this neighborhood, once you develop a comprehensive plan, and the Legion is allowed to go • in there, this will become a commercial strip. Will destroy • residential character of this neighborhood. Don' t disagree with . the purpose of this organization; but there is a difference that - has to be understood between a good organization and something ' • that is being done for the good of the community . While this may be a good organization would suggest that this is the wrong place for it to locate . Would be more appropriate to an area with other commercial type uses . The legal problem presented here is . ' serious enough that depending on what this Board does, one day a . • court of law may have to take a look at this . Would hope that . the Town Board would seek independent legal counsel from the Town ' Attorney, take into consideration remarks made at this hearing and seek a legal opinion concerning the proposed action before voting on September 8 . George VanValen - took exception with Mr . Galbraith' s one statement about residential area . . . insurance company is not a residential building . Spoke about the current American Legion, search for a new location, activities provided. Area is growing , • services needed. Backbone of zoning is planned urban development . The Legion has tried to respond to concerns of the Town of Ulysses 2 Public Hearing/American Legion August 18 , 1992 neighborhood; ie : contacted DOT, hydrologist to determine that we • wouldn' t affect neighbors , geological expert to test soil to make sure sewage wouldn' t affect neighbors , will plant trees to act as noise buffers , outdoor lighting and time of occupancy is • restricted, etc. Spoke strongly in favor of new building . • Randy Marcus - acting attorney for American Legion responding to Mr . Galbraith. . . it is true that the courts have made clear; spot zoning is a zoning change that occurs without taking into account a comprehensive plan for the community . The courts have also gone on to say that a comprehensive plan can be found in whatever the municipalities zoning laws and regulations are made of . In the case of the Town of Ulysses you have a well developed zoning law which includes for the provision of development districts . • If zoning is changed in accordance with a plan [zoning law] it cannot be spot zoning . The section of your zoning law which provides for development districts allows for the mechanism that is taking place through the Planning Board's review and in part • at this meeting. The criteria are being met . Also, the Legion is a not-for-profit corporation. Activities they engage in are oriented toward providing benefits for the community. James Hickey - spoke in favor of the American Legion project . Wouldn' t stand for anything that would be a detriment to his • family, his home and property. • Mary McLallen - lives across the road from the site of this proposed project . Spoke against the project . Concerned with the numbers using the Legion. Will change the character of the neighborhood. Feel it ' s spot zoning. Most of us don' t want a bar in the area . Not against the Legion or it 's activities . . .do • a lot of good . However, don' t think that is the sole purpose of the Legion. Could talk for a long time, but wonder if it would be accepted. III Laurie Murray - live next door, husband and she are not opposed to the project . When building on a State highway, know there is • traffic. Need to consider and protect land owners who have paid over the years and now want to sell that property. • Del Borden - spoke in favor . Bought the land as an investment . Gave land to his children to build their home. I expected to have it residential ; perhaps a sub-division. . .people were against that too. When purchased, no zoning; perhaps grandfather the land . If I had subdivided the land as originally thought , the people that bought land from me would have been held to my restrictions . People came to me to buy land and I didn' t hold them to any restrictions . . . they showed me their plans and I went on fairness and trust . I didn' t put restrictions on the land. . . and wouldn' t unless they do something detrimental to the environment that is going to affect me. Concerning buffer • zones . . . I have nine foot tall pine trees that I will give to the • Legion to plant for a buffer in front . Rose Mayo - in favor of American Legion building . Good for the • • community. Don' t think it will bother the neighbors as much as they think it will . Charles Oaks - think this is considered spot zoning and very opposed to the project . Feel they should build elsewhere . David McLallen - spoke against . Concerned about development other than residential along RT 227 . Started with Alpha House, added insurance building . Think if you add this project it will continue and will become a strip . Joanne Molino - Against . Town needs a Master Plan. Not against 4 . f ', Town of Ulysses 3 Public Hearing/American Legion • August 18 , 1992 the Legion but the type of establishment . Spoke of her concern • • about traffic , DWI , noise, etc . Afraid the neighborhood will lose it ' s character and no longer be residential . Feel the residents of the area are being railroaded. This is spot zoning . Aage Larsen - spoke in favor of project . There is need of a facility that can handle handicapped, senior citizens types of meetings . Mentioned the good things the Legion does for the community. Carl Grimsman - Against . Two points for the Board to consider . . .please separate the good that the Legion does along • with the need for the establishment, which I think is true; but separate that from the location that is being proposed. • Secondly, work on a master plan. The Town risks unchecked sprawl . Ann Hughes - in favor . Jill Kidwell - against . In favor of the Legion but not the location they wish to build. Traffic is currently a problem; increase of traffic will cause a problem. Sylvia Mitchell - against . Concerned about sewage and water . Helen McLallan - lives out of area but giving support to her family . Is against the project . The whole idea of zoning is community imposed control on the use of private property. It is the agreement of the community to their elected representatives • to put limits on how property can be used. This area is zoned residential . Pat Love - against project for all reasons already stated . Lou Pearsall - in favor of new building. Paula Austic - submitted statement opposing project (see Legion file in Town Clerk' s office) . Hearing no further comments the public hearing was closed at • 8 : 50pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia, Paula J . Mount Recording Secretaries • • • S TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING September 8, 1992 Present : Supervisor willies: P. Hogan; Councilpeople Cethorini' Stover, Thomas Reits, Robert Weatherby, Ben Curtis; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia! , , Others.•:.Fresent: :-' 'C RMthtRahn Iand'?.adna+Barittl; Tbnipkini Co. r ' ' Planning III Supervisor Hogan. cal led the meeting oti the Rowti:'BoardL of thi town ' of Ulysses to order at 7:30 pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge: of. Allegiance to ;the 'Ilag ot ,the Unitedi9titti of'1$merica. + ii. ' Ic . ; , i••• : c Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approv0lthe aiinitoi of the Regular Town Board Meeting of August 3, 1992 and a . Public. H.earing • of August 18, 1992; :moved;by Mrb: stover.'and:seconded •by 'Mr: " ' Reits. .'ii• ...,r 1: lit • Mr. Hogan aye c : Mrs. Stover aye : , i . . Mr. Reits aye ' Mr. Weatherby aye - •• Mr. Curtis aye Approved. Report - Trumansbura Fire Department , 41 .'i i t::un:.' . _ . :u. .:.' . . Chief 1Roemer1.unablaLto attend':: •.1 ' _. :.. . s 1a:: • - : .c i . . ::: r:. • : . i .: 1 ..41. RJ ,:1. ,, I 1 iiLE :i . fi . . . ' , . .. Li • 4 -;t . .• Report :- ReDreaentattvo 4tamee Masotti - '' =i.: ' . :q 1: : :" ; : - -,Ii Mr. Mason was unable to`atteneduol'to i Countyca jtidy. ' .:11< - ' • P.; tb : - .'L . claims i ' : i • Mr. .Uggan :enter.tained a motion to approve .ci•aisis $2951-fhilln33O; Mr. Curtis :moved,i :seconded :by Mc: Reits. 4 °A dfaouitiorr' tooklplace • . on several of the claims:: .It ,Naa decidad to:not rAVclaitm #197 ' ' .. • in the amount of $155, reduce claim # 324 by $39 and to reduce claim $ 318 by :$45'. 'Mr.: Hogan moved, s+con'ded ,by Mrs. 1StoVai •to '• approve the amended claims in the amount of $15,671.65. • a . • . ' 3• :7' ..'T J:1 ' • . .. .••1 .. ... 1 .. . " -.7 • .. . _ _.. •t !Wei Hogan,. _ aye • 1•..f., :. r_ .. :i . it • . . -1. .t _ . Mr, :Reits'1 .._ . :.nay .. . . , ..... _ I Mc. 'Weatherby :., aye. . r.'.•:n . .,..t . .. ;, .". Mrs. tover :4 Iayo. ,• , _ • . I • .. .. a.. ■L .. 1 . ;:.,n 4e. £ij • Approved. - l .. • , ... _1 Supervisorr's Financial Report v•.• •..t ` • The Board reviewed the Cash Flow Statement and the Quarterly Report. Discussed the overdrawn account of the Justice L , . c •,.I Department. Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following; = .1-i I. : 1 9. S RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses transfer $1400 from A1990.04 to A1110.04. Mr. Hogan aye • Mr. Reits aye Mrs. Stover aye • 1 ' : : • : . . - . . . t. _ !! • . . 1: 1 .• . I. 1 • :. • • . r y.• 7t1 v. r! r �(,�r . 5• �a / . 1 y Ili i° Town of Ulysses $, Regular Board Meeting , . 9-8-92 Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye . • Approved. Account $A1910 is overdrawn and it was decided that with the refund check received• formlWorluaans Comp that• a: revenua:account. would be created for insurance. r . Mr. Reitz .moved, ; seconded by Mrs. Stover the following; RESOLVED, thatl•the Town Board. of the Town of . Ulysses create - ; a general Fund Revenue account $ A2680 in the amount1 of $1138, . FURTHER RLSOLVEA,' to increase A1910 by $1138 . Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye • Mrs. Stover aye • Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye Approved. Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Mr. Hogan introduced Jeanne Baritt from Tompkins County Planning Department. Use Baritt explained the mapping that could be done for the price the County had quoted for Has Baritt to do under the Circuit Rider Program at the County. .The:Town's Master Plan Committee would like some maps done before they continue on with • their plans. Tha -Town.Board discussed:-with Mss Baritt the A . 2 .. possibility of up-dating the Town's Zoning map by bringing it up to date with the PUD's that do not show on the current Zoning map. Use Baritt felt that it would be no problem to do this in the original quoted price of $1540, which is 110 hours at $14 ph. Mr. Hogan and Mr. Curtis expressed their feelings that this • should be a •benefit to the Town from the County. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following; a - - • o .. RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses authorize Mr. Hogan to enter into a contract with the County to provide the Master Plan with the maps that they need and to also update the Zoning map, in an amount not to exceed $1540.: . - ! Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis nay Approved. OLD BUSINESS Water Protect ' Mr. Hogan announced that all the paper work had been prepared and presented. personnel Policy A meeting was scheduled for September 16th, 1992 at 7:00 pm to be held at the Village Hall to discuss the policy and finalize before next Regular Board Meeting. ' �r +z • • z Town of Ulysses . ,; Regular Board Meeting 9-8-92 Health Insurance ., • , , - , , • . . The board discussed the health insurance policy that the Town now has (Regional ) and Mr. Hogan explained to the board about the Community Plan that had been presented. He had worked up the figur o. on the. savings to the Town. The Community, Plan would e. save the _tae ,pq}yers. over $18,000., . .This would eliminate the , , . r . presar fion card _for the Sphere and also .there would be no • coverage for a couple of other items. The Board discus Ai}•givioq,•, the employees a bonus for $500 to cover the expetise 'of the - deductible for their prescriptions. Mr. Meeker stated that if the employees are given .•$500 that the Board should atleast give enough after taxes that the employees get the $500. The Board discussed this. Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the 'following; • !,;0801 VP c lithit,.the Towa,($oerd. oft, ,the.Town_ .of Ulysses .no_t sign a 1993 contract with Blue Cross/B1`ue Shield for the Regional plan, s^ru t:., . a. : . :FORTNER RESOLVED, that ;the.*own Board ,of .rths :Tows} of .Ulysses . . notify Blue Cross/Blue Shield that the Town would like to participate in the Community Plan • nra. : effective January.,1,.,.1993. .; : 1 , - 'n ( '.4 1 t. ,n . „ % jet. Mr. 'Hogan., f'rnet .. Mr. Reits 1.470,. f2 . . Mrs. Stover aye • Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye � � Approved. Supervisor Hogan will notify Blue Cross/ Blue Shield of the Toyn'smPlfn;. ... : n : ,. . r. a7.r;:,h t•t ; : :.; { NEW BUSINES$rr r . r. . t _ :u r: v•i n. . . ittle Blue Raider Football Lt . ., Mr. Hogan explained to the Board that Coach Reed.had .approached him and asked if the new 5th 6 6th grade football team could be under the Town's insurance coverage. It would not cost the Town any additional (we know have little league baseball , flag football and small fry basketball ) . Mr. Hogan bad check with our, insurance agent (Joe Farrell ) and he had told him it would be no problem. Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mr. Reits the following; RESOLVED, that the Town of Ulysses Town Board allow the Little Blue Raiders Football to be under the Town's insurance. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reits aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye Approved. Town of Ulysses ' Regular Board Meeting ' i , i 9-8-92 .: : :'71 ' '11-": 4, 71.'p94 • Street Lights Mr. Hogan stated ,that the Town Attorney was working on' tha• ' -17 " r"4 contract. • . I ai $a '{ • • t ' ' • . • i •••• : ■1'• : . : $scvclin ' greet i.f _ . : : ., r • .2t . 1. , . .;. !v•:.: :!, , 1._.1 Mrs. Stbsler commint'ed''thitit this Board lid received a :letter' fort"1 the Fair 'ASsoc. and• that 'the recycling area was betoming messy. V It had been 'reported' •fh=t there is broken Bliss` and 'ethor t) inyti '' III about. ` Tb.e will tdltt `t'o Marion. ' ' ' 7 • • :r. , r. .19 r, .. :r' .• REPORTS • . . . • . • Town Clerk - passed ,: :,: t i _ :d., b :,. ± . tv. 't . .1;•! • fichwav Superintendent - passed ' : Y ..•`: :' Zoning/Building Inspector • Alex Rachun asked. about the Board creating_some additional 82 zones the `"t •iholuddd°the`fprdpertp down on "*196 Ct' 'Hafil 'Hdase • and the dull'edge lP rbea 'property. l °' Alex and the Board discussed Halsey, House and if a Use Variance may not 'b'e a no*'the 'Pdt'eaze'a okUl d Appl'y.' Al`gx.wi i! l dial ri'nto this• _;. 7 :s.11 i1 ] 41.' 13 . ' ' •C:i ' ) 1:.' :ri.l. ! t O I! '1 V) t 1 Alex reported that Auble hasli esentedtS Develeintent Plan and handed out maps to the Board. He stated that they have not yet • brought in a narrative of the Development Plan:- Rhen'•that- • arrives he will pass it on to the Planning Boated. Board Members Reports . Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed the correspondence that he had received. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motioniimove&•' by Mrs. Stover, seconded by Mr. Curtis to adjourn the meeting. _ Unanimously approved. ""�" • ' Meeting adjourned at 11:20 pm. : : L i .. , 4%:E . 4. 1 •' 1 r J :..: Respectful lj' Submitted " 1 1 L : = )4 . •r: : •i'.,• :Y.t . a.: C: . . . : .... .. _: ... - . .. . ...... .al. .L f;'nc ❑itt': Marsha L. Georgia` r.,. trc n. ,2 r . e ! b . . : : ,1 • L ,'{' • i . i • ;'n . , •,1 : . . : . .1 • • Joint Village of Trurnansburg Town of Ulysses - Meeting September 15, 1992 The Joint Meeting between the Town of Ulysses and Village of Trurnansburg was held on September 15, 1992 in the Main Meeting Room, 56 E. Mein St . , Trumansburg, New York. PRESENT : Village Board: Mayor Thomas Bennett ; Trustees: Bill Griswold, Peter Meskill , John Rogers, Jackie Merwin. Town Board: Supervisor Bill Hogan; Councilpersons: Tom Reitz , Ben Curtis, Bob Weatherby, Catherine Stover. `- CITIZENS: Kevin Romer, Dennis Sheehan, Kevin Shreve, Karen Stuffy, Dan Watson, Susan Perkins, Tom Major, Brayton Foster (Covert Councilman) , Art Poulsen (Covert Supervisor) ; several unknown. r . Mayor Bennett opened the meeting at 7:05 PM. ITEM 1 : ARC GRANT - ULYSSES Mr. Hogan stated the Town worked with the County Planning • Department to put the ARC Grant request together and has been filed; they used information from surveys/and reports from engineers. Mr. Hogan stated the Town has a good chance at the 800 million dollars Jobs Band Act. Mr. Reitz stated the cost for the Project (water to Jacksonville) was 1 . 65 millions dollars; part of that was $150, 000 for the ARC Grant ; above that, 60% would be toward the Jobs Bond Act ; 60% of the 1 . 65 million plus the • $150, 000. would be a total of $1 . 130 million dollars; which would be the potential for available dollars. If the Bond Act passes, the Town could receive close to one million dollars to help with the water district . Mr. Reitz stated he would like to help the Village and the only possibility to do this would to put another well in at Frontenac Point ; your talking 25, 000 sq. ft. of pipe which calculates to almost 3. 5 miles from Willow Creek to their • pipeline where you would connect . Boards continued discussion regarding the ARC Grant and Jobs • • Bond Act and possibilities for water extension. No action taken.. ITEM 6: RECYCLE CENTER Mayor Bennett stated there are a few problems at the recycle • • center located at the Fair Grounds. People are dumping garbage when the center is close ; he suggested a sign which states there is a fine for illegal dumping. Tt was suggested the County post a sign and notify the Solid Waste and Sheriff Dept . There was discussion of the amount of glass that is all over • • the ground; some of it is tram when it is picked up. Mrs. Stover stated she spoke with Tom Richardson from Solid Waste regarding the glass etc; he stated he would speak to Superior Disposal and try to get some cooperation from them (Superior) to be more careful when dumping; Mrs. Stover stated there is more cardboard than the dumpster will take; Mr. Richardson stated if the problem isn' t solved, they will put 'in another dumpster. Mrs. Stover stated another problem is that it sits there all week before it is picked up. It was suggested maybe they could come in a different day . • 2 it was suggested that a meeting be set: up or someone should • talk to the County and Superior Disposal regarding glass etc, that is left at the Recycle Center. Mayor Bennett stated he had another concern; Marian • (Supervisor for the Recycle Center) has been donated a electric • heater for her building: the rain^ Association does not want: to pay for electricity it would use. It was suggested that the, County provide a portable ( kerosene) heater for Marian. Mrs. Shover will take care of this. ITEM 5: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION (ROBINSON) 11-2-7. 2 TO 7-1-25. 2 • Mayor Bennett stated there is a small parcel of land located in the Town that Mr. Robinson would like to annex into the Village so he will receive only one Lax bill . • After discussion it was agreed that Mr. Robinson be informed of the procedure for annexation; he will need to come to the Town and Village for a petition and a public hearing is required. ITEM 3: FIRE BUDGET - 1993 Fire Chief Kevin Romer reviewed his report that was presented to the Town and Village ion file) . Proposal was as follows: Insurance: $43, 500, Contractual : $31, 000, Small Equipment : $17, 500, Reserve Equipment : $55, 000, Reserve Building : $3, 000. for a total of $150, 000. • Chief Romer stated some of the increase is because of OSHA requirement : all new members are required to have a physical • exam, prior to any response for alarms; all members that function as an interior structural fire must have a complete physical 'r which includes blood work, chest x-ray, possibly stress tests; all members be offered, free of charge Hepatitis B immunizations; the fire station have an area used for cleaning and storage of potentially hazardous waste; testing of SCBA units and spare bottles ; cost of training to meet OSHA/NFPA standards. Trustee Meskill stated the number of calls has increased in the Village, Covert and Hector from the previous year ; that increase will automatically raise the percentage. Trustee Meskill stated he spoke with Chief Romer earlier today and had some suggestion as to revisions to the original proposal : Insurance : no change, Contractual : (decrease $3000) to $28, 000, Small Equipment : $16, 500, Reserve Equipment : $47, 500, Reserve Building: $2, 500 for a total of $138, 000. There was discussion regarding the Equipment Reserve Fund; it was stated last year it was reduced in favor of increasing it to $45, 000 for 1993. Chief Ranier stated they did not have enough • in reserves this year and they may not have enough when it comes • time to buy another truck in four years. Trustee Griswold stated he felt the equipment reserve amount was reasonable; Mr. Foster asked about the replacement program; Chief Romer answered every five years there should be a truck replaced; one was replaced two years earlier because the money was available; • Trustee Meskill stated he would like to stay with the $47, 500 and • see if a small increase is needed each year rather one large increase in one year; Trustee Griswold stated fire service is one of the services • government is obligated to offer; you don' t have to go overboard with equipment ; this type of service the Village and Towns should support . ::`:?7. , � p �„ , , • �iV • , 1ST ~ ., qeV • 3 . Mr. Foster stated that he didn' t think anyone here would disagree that they won' t support the fire service ; the problem is that the money is Just not going around; the Town of Covert is trying to put a cap on spending. He is here tonight with Mr. Poulson representing the Town of Covert . He would like to see the percent of increase in the total budget under 10%; Mr. Weatherby stated he agreed with Mr. Foster, the department needs • to look at ways to save money ; discussion continued regarding 1 having ample money in reserves for future use. • Trustee Griswold asked Mr. Foster for his suggestion and where he would like to see cuts in the budget. Mr. Foster stated Covert' s suggestion would be to reduce the reserve (equipment ) to $40, 000, which was last years figure ; Trustee Griswold stated is was agreed last year to put $45, 000 in the reserve for 1993; Trustee Griswold asked if everyone was agreeable in accepting the $45, 000 for equipment reserve; no objections. • Trustee Meskill reviewed the figures again as discussed and • asked for comments. Mr. Foster asked if the contractual was appropriate to take care of the increase in the number of calls. It was stated it was. Trustee Meskill also explained that the Building Reserve monies will be used to change the lights at the Fire Station to energy saving lights; pay back time is approximately one year. A MOTION was presented by Trustee Meskill second by Trustee Griswold that the Village accept the following budget as the amount for coverage to the Towns for 1993. Insurance: $43, 500. 00 Contractual : 28, 000. 00 Small Equipment 16, 500. 00 Reserve Equipment 45, 000. 00 • Reserve Building 2, 500. 00 • TOTAL: $135, 500. 00 Mayor Bennett asked all in favor; Unanimously Carried. Boards thank Chief Romer. ITEM 2: YOUTH BUDGET - 1993 Trustee Rogers asked if everyone had the packet that was left in their boxes. Town members did not have their packets. Trustee Meskill stated to Trustee Rogers that he reviewed the information; it was easy to read and very helpful ; he (Rogers) has a handle as to what is going on; • Trustee Rogers stated they received input from a survey of the school and a forum that was held in April . He was not going to go through all of it as it is in the packet. • Trustee Rogers continued: Generally, from the results of the survey ; most felt the programs were needed, popular and used; Trustee Rogers stated the Youth Commission has prepared an "Action Plan for 1992-1993. Some items stated were: work with UYU (Ulysses Youth Unlimited) to modify services for 93-94; improve transportation - perhaps free bus tickets/or a cheaper rate; community directory ; improving service to working parents and their children; work toward providing access to activities • for children in the southern section of Ulysses (that may be in the Ithaca City School District ) ; work with the Ithaca Youth Bureau. • 4 One item of concern in the survey was youth employment: and Job readiness skills. Last year $1500 was requested and granted, from the County for three youths to work at the summer recreation program and the Library ; the Commission would explore possible • • farm chore linkages; local business want ad service ; rnatchinga • youth with odd Jobs. Trustee Merwin stated she felt Li: is very valuable to have o • subsidized Job program; she agreed with youth working for the • summer recreation and Library ; it is hard for 15 yea ^ old to find Jobs ; she feels it is very important to have some kind of job • program. Trustee Rogers reviewed the 1993 town Youth Budget ; the Commission would like to request that the town restore the level of funding it provided for youth in 1991 . Trustee Rogers read the proposed budget for 1993 -• town: Total Allocation $71 , 243 State Aid Recreation 1 , 152 State Aid Youth Serv. 1 , 008 County Youth Serv. funds 7, 573 Town Tax TOTAL $21, 243 Trustee Rogers reviewed the Village' s 93-94 Budget Request , which is a 3% cost of living increase from the previous year: • Total Allocation $44, 998 State Aid Recreation 1, 152 State Aid Youth Serv. 1 , 008 County Youth Serv. funds 5, 482 United Way 3, 2.00 • Fees & Charges 19, 200 Village Tax 14. 856 ($433 increase) TOTAL $44,998 Trustee Meskill asked if the fees and charges were based on last years' s number; there is a $3, 000 shortage to date for - revenue to be collected. Tom Major stated that the revenues were short but the expenses were also under the budget amount ; Trustee Meskill stated that for budget purposes your • revenues should equal the expenses; if the Commission is using the $17, 700. for this years budget, he would suggest that the $433 increase be rolled over into the fees rather than the tax structure ; perhaps increase the summer recreation fees; Torn • • Major stated they have already projected an increase in fees for next year; Trustee Meskill stated that there is still an increase in the total youth budget of $433 even with increased • fee. Trustee Meskill stated he would like a breakdown in the accounts of 7310. 100, 7310. 600 and 7320. 400. Trustee Rogers stated this is just a proposal and basically each line item was • increased 3%. Trustee Meskill reiterated that the $433 dollars should be rolled into the user fees and not tax dollars. Trustee Griswold stated he felt the Village Board agreed earlier in discussions with the Commission to give a 3% increase for this coming budget year. Mr. Curtis stated there are many youth programs that are supported by the parents that children participate in. He gave an example of the after school program which he pays and in the summer months, because of their working schedule, he sends his children to the YMCA; 1 .� .•- • '1" • • 5 from what he is hearing, what is being protected is a fee level in the Village of single digits of $8. 00 or whatever; the taxpayer needs to subsidize this program in order to protect that level of rate. For what he pays for programs that is parent • supported; it seems small and not unreasonable to have the users pay more for the services. Trustee Griswold agreed with Mr. Curtis, that the fees are not unreasonable, but he (Griswold) • feels they had previously made a commitment to the 3% increase. Trustee Merwin agreed with raising the fees but also to look into a program for working parents; parents would pay for the use of C • such program. • Mr. Hogan stated he agreed there is a need, but there is a • limit to how much taxpayers can afford. Discussion continued ;•, ; that the youth money is essentially taxpayer money; whether it comes from United Way, State or whatever. • • Trustee Griswold stated that we are here to arrive at some numbers; is the Town or Village Board saying they are not willing " to support this amount of money. Trustee Meskill stated he is willing to support the amount of money for the Village, but he would like to see the $433 added to the user fee versus a tax increase. Discussion continued regarding the number of children in the summer recreation program and fees. Tom Major stated this year • every child paid to be in the program and was registered versus previous years where some just came to the program without paying. Trustee Griswold stated the Village should decide what they would like to approve and the Town do the same; they are separate from one another'. Trustee Rogers presented MOTION second by Trustee Merwin • that the Village stay with the 3% that was agreed upon before. • Mayor Bennett asked for a vote : Trustee Rogers Aye Trustee Merwin Aye Trustee Griswold Aye Mayor Bennett Aye Trustee Meskill Nay Trustee Rogers asked the Town Board how they felt about the proposed budget. Mr. Hogan stated they have not had a chance to looked at the packet . Trustee Rogers stated the Commission is asking the Town of return to the 1991 level of funding. Trustee Merwin stated the Village' s portion is twice as much as the proposed Town' s yet the Town has twice as many youth. Trustee Rogers stated it was his understanding before he was on the Board, that there was an agreement that the Village would fund more of the recreation and the Town would fund more of the Youth Services and they would be approximately equal. Tom Major stated the summer recreation program has a ratio of two to one (village two and Town one) . UYU reported there are 170 children in the Village and 77 in the Town; Jacksonville is being considered for a UYU program. Trustee Griswold stated the Village previously asked the Commission to show how they allocated the money and at that time they (Board) udn voice their opinion. He suggested perhaps the • Town might want to do the same ; and if the Town has any questions they could ask tonight while everyone is together. • r., Mr. Curtis suggested rather *pending a lot of time tonight perhaps Trustee Rogers could present to the Town the program description showing statistics what the children are doing; the goals of the program he does not have a problem with. Trustee Rogers stated the Village Board also had questions about the program and he furnished the necessary information to them. Trustee Rogers stated he will make copies for the Town Board. Trustee Rogers asked the Town Board when they thought they would have a figure for the youth budget . Mr. Hogan stated the preliminary budget needs to be submitted by September 30th; they will have budget meetings in October; if a number is needed now, for your planning purposes, figure on what you got last year; maybe they can come up with more money after they work through ` the budget . It was asked what last year' s budget was. It was stated around $7500. With no further comments, Boards continued with agenda. Trustee Meskill stated the Village Board needs to approve payment to NYS DEC for 1992 Wastewater Treatment Plant in the amount of $1875. 00 (State Pollutant Discharge Elimination System) . • MOTION was presented by Trustee Meskill second by Trustee Griswold to pay the annual discharge fee to NYSDEC in the amount • of $1875. Unanimously Approved. ITEM 4: UPDATE - AUBLE PROJECT Mr. Hogan stated the Town received a set of plans and • narrative from Mr. Auble ; it covers all the items, some are a little vague, that is in their B-2 Zone Ordinance. A set of drawing indicated he is going to put in a 30, 000 square foot grocery store and couple of other retail stores; it is similar to • the drawing they had before ; there is a shaded area called Phase • I ; there are other locations set aside for light industry and professional buildings; Trustee Griswold asked what the Town' s plans are now. Mr. Hogan stated it will go to the Town Planning Board. Mr. Reitz told the Town Board that the Village Board last night denied water and sewer to Mr. Auble. Trustee Griswold • stated the application did not have enough information. Mr. • Curtis asked the Village if Auble made any mention of a water tank or an estimate of how water they needed. Trustee Meskill stated all the application said was to build a shopping center. • Mr. Hogan stated in part of the document it states "public use of land" - "water tower" . Trustee Griswold asked when will it come to the Town Board. It was stated 60 days. With nothing more to come before the Boards a joint meeting was schedule for November 18, 1992 at the Village Meeting Room at 7:30 PM. ' A MOTION was presented by Mayor Bennett second by Trustee Griswold to adjourn meeting. • Unanimously Approved. Meeting adjourned at 9:47 PM • Respectfully submitted, Sharon Housworth, Clerk • • TOMB OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MISTING September AK, 1992 Present: Supervisor William P. Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover and Bon Curtis; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia and Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun. Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Mr. Hogan reported that the County and our Town Attorney have reviewed the personnel policy and all was in order except the County had made a few minor changes. The Board reviewed the policy and made the following changes; page 2 - under Sick Leave - for class "B" employees - change the wording to read. Class "B" employees are to receive sick time and personal time prorated at 50%. Omitting for more than twenty hours. page 3 - Vacation - omit for more than twenty hours after class "5" employees. page 4 - Health Insurance - 1st and 2nd paragraph - omit health insurance and insert coverage through the Town's insurance plan. 3rd paragraph omit and insert the following; Permanent employee's hired on or before 12-31-91 who are eligible to receive H.Y. state Retirement benefits and who have completed 10 years of continuous employment with the Town will be entitled to participate in the Town'a Health Insurance Plan. They • will be entitled to 20%of the cost of the Town Health Insurance Premium plus an additional 2% per year for each additional year of service up to a maximum of 500 premium payment. page 5 - Health Insurance - pargh 9 - Upon retirement - omit 50% page 6 - insert Military Duty - look up what County has and use page 7 - insert Volunteer Firefighters and ENT's - use what Cornell University has in their policy Hearing no further changes to the policy Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover to adjourn the meeting. Meeting adjourned 10:20 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia mg ; 1 465 TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MCETINO j. September 23, 1992 Present: Supervisor William P. Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine Stover and Ben Curtis; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. Mr. Hogan called the meeting to order at 5:45 p.m. He stated: that he had talked to Karl, Heck, Administrative Coordinator at Tompkins County Planning who is helping the Town:,4o•.the pre- , application for the ARC grant . Mr.. Heck has preparedia couple of resolutions that he feels should be adopted to go with the pre- application, r. 1 . " : � , Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis the e following; =r AUTHORIZATION OF APPALACHIAN REGIONAL COMMISSION PRE-APPLICATION SUBMISSION :: WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses wishes to assist in the provision of safe and affordable water in the Hamlet of Jacksonville and adjoining areas, and WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses wishes to stimulate economic _ development and create employment opportunities in the Town, and y WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses has explored grant assistance as a means of reducing the cost of water provision to the residents of the proposed water district, and _ WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses is an eligible applicant for monies under the Appalachian Regional Commission program, now therefore be it ' RESOLVED, That the Town of Ulysses is authorised to submit a pre- application for funding to the Appalachian Regional III Commission for the amount of $150,000 for the Ulysses Economic Development Project. Mr. Hogan aye - Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis the following; SELF-SUFFICIENCY OF ULYSSES WATER DISTRICT 5 2 WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses has passed a resolution declaring its intent to create a Ulysses Water District including the Jacksonville area, and WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses intends for the Ulysses Water Diatrict $ 2 to be a revenue-neutral addition to the services of the Town, now therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Town of Ulysses declares that the Ulysses Water District 5 2 will be financed on a self- sufficient basis after the completion of the III Appalachian Regional Commission grant funding period. Mr. Hogan aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Adopted. ` • 44:. M 4::'. . .t• 2 • Mr. Hogan' also' Sported that 'Jim 'deefus: 'will"Writh' another -' ? •3 a letter in ref erendet to"jobsiand' he hadt'a'lsoi asked' Alex' Rachun' to contact Ingrid,Potensai' t' • 'write' at letter 'iht reference 'to%touribm' in regardb"to the Halsey Hoiaae' project. 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IE31:•_ ir137A • • .. . . !': 110 e TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING 10-3-92 Present : Supervisor William P. Hogan, Town Board Members Thomas ' Reitz, Catherine Stover and Ben Curtis; Town Attorney Bruce Wilson; Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun. Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 8:10 a.m. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover to adjourn the meeting to executive session to discuss the possible law suit in reference to the American Legion request for a PUD. Unanimously approved. Board retired into executive session. ' Adjourned executive session at 10 : 30 a.m. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk III I (-12 or. 'w. • 1141416 TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR BOARD MEETING October 5, 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople, Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis , Robert WEatherby. Town Clerk Marsha Georgia; Zoning/Building Insp. Alex Rachun; Highway Superintendent James Meeker. Others Present : Phil Colvin, Mark Corl , Charles Oaks, other residents from Rt 227 area; Spca Reps. - Pam Stonebracker, Mrs . Smith, Mrs. Delaney. , Supervisor Hogan called the meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 :30 p.m. and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of September 8, 1992 and Special Board Meetings of September 15 & 23, 1992; moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mrs. Stover. Mr. Hogan aye . Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis , aye Mr. Weatherby aye . Adopted. Report - Trumansbura Fire Department Chief Roemer unable to attend. Report - Representative James Mason ® Mr. Mason was unable to attend due to a conflicting meeting with the County. Claims . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by r. Reitz , seconded by Mr. Curtis to approved claims #331 -. #364 in the amount of $24,333. Mr. Hogan aye Mrs . Stover aye • Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. Supervisor's Financial Mr. Hogan read the cash flow report - no questions from the Board. . The Board reviewed the quarterly report and made the following budget adjustments. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following resolution; 5 • :. • , � , 41, Town at Ulysses 2 Regular Board Meeting 10-5-92 RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses increase appropriations as follows; A1110 .04 $ 800 A1670 .04 1300 • A1910 .04 1981 A1920 .04 28 A9950.09 319 FURTHER RESOLVED, to increase per capita revenue A3001 by $4428 . ••! Mr. Hogan aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. • Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis the following; • RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses re- class the following; A1450 .04 in the amount of $560 to A1450 .01 A7310 .04 in the amount of $900 to A7310 .04 Mr. Hogan aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses adjust B Fund as follows; • B3410 .01 $400 B3410 .04 200 B9950 .09 32 Transfer from B1990 .04 for a total of $632 . • Mr. Hogan aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye • Adopted. The Board discussed the Da Fund balances that were overdrawn. Seeing that these may vary due to the weather Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses recommends to wait until we see what the winter brings to make the adjustments to the Highway Appropriation Accounts . Mr. Hogan aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. 411 t Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Meeting 10-5-92 }fearing of Individuals/Delegations Pam Stonebracker , Representative SPCA presented the request for the 1993 budget . The SPCA is not asking for any additional money than 1991 nor 1992 . The SPCA is asking for $6370 for the 1993 SPCA Contract . OLD BUSINESS American Legion PUD Request : Ill Supervisor Hogan reported that the Board had met in executive session on Saturday, October 3, 1992 with the Town's Attorney to discuss the request . In the list of recommendations to the Town Board from the Planning Board #6 gives exclusive use to American Legion Use and the Attorney recommends that this statement be changed. Exclusive use can not written in. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses send the recommendations of the Planning Board back to the Planning Board and have a joint meeting with said Planning Board at the earliest possible date. Mr. Hogan aye • Mrs. Stover aye - Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. - ® Personnel Policy The Board has received and; reviewed the final draft of the personnel after the changes were made at a Special Meeting 9-16- 92. Mr. Reitz recommended to change page 4 paragraph three to .3% • additional per year for Health Insurance coverage. The Board • discussed this and a compromise was set at 2 1/2% . On page 5 under the statement of $1000 reimbursement , paragraph 2 . Mrs . • Stover wanted the language tightened up. • That paragraph shall read as follows : For employees who choose to be covered under their spouses health insurance plan and opt not to receive health insurance under the Town plan, the Town of Ulysses will agree to reimburse that- employee -for the amount actually paid for family coverage- under the spouses plan in the amount not to exceed $1000 . If circumstances change, for any employee - opting to go on their spouses health insurance, that employee return to :the Town of Ulysses 's Health • Insurance plan at their original status . • Mr. Hogan wanted to talk further on offering 50% health insurance to nets/Alfred- full-time employees. He - feels that if an employee puts in- thirty years with the Town and. seeing that State Retirement is nothing to write home to mother about , that employees will haveva tough time -getting by. . We should re- consider reinstating the individual 50% health insurance • reimbursement . This was discussed and the general consensus of the board was not' to bind the tax payers so far into the future. It would be a benefit into the- future that. can not -be controlled. Mr. Hogan. felti that the-reason the Town has been a good place to work is .because of- benefits . The Town1is: not know as the highest paying, but the benefits have been good. Mr. Meeker echoed this ..M•5 t: 1 .,. . '•J'r..; :rr tt. y - . `1' .. .5 yy Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Board Meeting 10-5-92 and feels that it will be hard in the future to attract good people. We have a large investment in highway equipment and they work long hard hours . We need a responsible crew. Mr. Reitz felt that the Town should offer benefits. That if later the • Board felt this should be changed they were at liberty to amend this policy. Hearing no further changes on the Personnel Policy Mr. Hogan .:, entertain a motion to adopt the policy as presented after the • September 16th meeting and revised as of tonight meeting. Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mr . Weatherby the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses adopt the Personnel Policy as amended 10-5-92 . Mr. Hogan aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. Mrs . Georgia will make the changes and prepare a copy for all employees . Budget The tenative budget has been prepared and presented to the Town Clerk. The Clerk has distributed copies to the Board Members . Mr. Hogan pointed out that a date has to be set for budget meetings and meetings with the employees for budget discussions . Dates were discussed for these meetings . The Board settled on the first meeting for a working session to be Wednesday October 14th, at 7 :00 p.m. and to have that in the Clerk 's office so that the bookkeeper would have excess to the computer . Setting Joint leg Planning Board/Town Board The Board also discussed setting a date for the joint meeting with the Planning Board and the Town Board for the discussion of the American Legion PUD. This date was set for Monday October 19th at 7 : 30 p.m. at the Town Hall . Mr . Hogan will contact David Tyler Chairman of the Planning Board. • NEW BUSINESS Planning Board Vacancy Mr. Hogan stated that Gerald Perkins a member of the Planning • Board has moved to another county and that we need to advertise that there is an opening. Mrs . Georgia will advertise. Mrs . • Georgia announced that the secretary, Rita Brown has also resigned and she has advertised that position. B2 Zones The Board felt that they need to discuss establishing additional B2 zones in the Town. The Pleasant Grove PUD or the Halsey House could be possible future B2 zones . Mr. Curtis suggested that III this be discussed with the Planning Board at the joint meeting scheduled the 19th. Mr. Hogan is in receipt of a letter from Alan Borden on the Jacksonville Rd. with a complainant about drainage and water problems . Mr. Hogan read letter. Highway Superintendent James Meeker is awhere of this and has talked to the County. Mr, Hogan turned the letter over to Mr. Meeker for him to look into this .. •: r:.••'• .• it l .. . ".. , f Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Board Meeting 10-5-92 further. REPORTS Hiohwav Buperinenden� Mr. Meeker reported that he cleaned ditches on Cold Springs Road, • Pine Ridge Road, Maplewood Road, Iradell Road, Buck Hill Road. Starting to work on the salt boxes. New rod bearings put in to one of the trucks . Village and Town went together on paving Cemetery Road and will share the coat. Helped Enfield do some stone and oiling. Town Clerk ■ Mrs . Georgia reported that $5,368 of which $783 . 28 turned over to the Supervisor along with the monthly report . $4472 of that is turned over to DEC for conservation licenses . Zoninv/Building Inspector absent - attending Planning Board Meeting poard Members, Mr. Reitz reported that there has been discussion as to what County Planning offers to the Towns and Mr. Reitz offered to the • Board and the Clerk a work list of the County Planning. Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence for the month. Hearing no further business, Mr. Hogan entertained a motion for adjournment, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover to adjourn. Unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned 10: 30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk MG:mg • TOWN OF ULYSSES CASH FLOW STATEMENT CHECKING Balance 7/31/92 40 .84 Receipts & Transfers 43703 .23 Disbursements & Transfers 43163 .62 Balance 8/31/92 580 .45 SUPER SAVINGS ACCOUNT Balance 7/31/92 311936 .44 Receipts & Transfers 4660 .50 A Disbursements & Transfers 39250 .00 Interest 886 . 11 "• Balance 8/31/92 278233 .05 Tax Collector 5-7 Account 0 .00 Tax Collector Petty Cash 100 .00 CAPITAL RESERVE ACCOUNTS INCLUDING INTEREST Highway Reserve 63955 .45 General Reserve 41489 .29 Part Town Reserve 22050 .90 . Reserve for Unemployment Insurance 7817 .68 Repurchase Agreement General Reserve C .D . Part Town Reserve C .D . Reserve for Unemployment Insurance C .D . 1 Petty Cash 150 .00 TOTAL TOWN FUNDS 414376 .82 11•111111111111S MSS y7/ TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING OCTOBER 5, 1992 PRESENT: Chairman, David Tyler; Planning Board Members - Budd Stover, Geraldine Kell , Krys Call , Dan Smith; Zoning/Bldg. Insp. - Alex Rachun; Secretary-Rita Brown. Chairman Dave Tyler called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. He announced that Secretary Rita Brown would be leaving. The position has been posted to find someone else. Dave indicated that the Planning Board should meet again before Mr. Slecht went out of town. It was decided that the next meeting will be Thursday, October 15 at 7:30 p.m. In the Village Hall . If Dave Tyler not available, Krys Call will cover for • him. Alex Rachun indicated that the Site Plans that we have In front us are generated from our previous meetings. Some changes were made on the Site Plan reflecting some site specific information. Auble did request water from the Village and was turned down. Alex thinks the request will come to the Town to form a water district. He explained that they are looking for approval of phase 1 , the shaded In area. Dave Tyler asked if Auble had any commlttments yet for businesses for Phase 1 . Alex said no. The Planning Board spent quite a bit of time reviewing the Site Plan. Several issues were brought up that need further clarification: I . Krys Call felt that the screening at entranceway should be part of phase 1 because the people right directly across the street are going to be most heavily impacted. 2. Elevations not consistent with Concept Plan. 3. Will Auble be bringing in professional developers in here to build this thing? 4. Is truck loading area sufficient behind stores? 5. Light Industry not addressed. 6. Concern of bank/restaurant close to entrance, close to residential area. 7. Signage. 8. Architectural design. Submit specific elevations. 9. Parking - Grocery store will require a large parking lot. We don't want overkill on parking. 10. Drainage - pipes big enough? Town Board would need to do SEOR where this would be addressed. We will continue discussion at next meeting. Alex will arrange to contact George Slecht to attend the next meeting, Thursday, October 15, 1992. The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m. 411 TOWN OF ULYSSES ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS OCTOBER 6, 1992 PRESENT: Chairman Gall Zabawsky; Board Members Ken Christianson, James Hickey, Carl Mann and George Tselekis; Zoning Officer Alex Rachun; Secretary Rita Brown. OTHERS PRESENT: Ingrid Potenza Chairman Gall Zabawsky called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Ingrid Potenza is requesting a Use Variance on her property which is the Halsey House, at 2057 Trumansburg Road in Trumansburg. She is trying to establish an inn and it is not allowed because it is currently in a residential district and it has been denied by the zoning officer. She is appealing this. • A Use Variance can be permitted if It meets the following criteria: A) that the land In question cannot yield a reasonable return if used for the purpose permitted in the District In which it is located. "Mrs. Potenza feels that at the time of purchasing the Halsey House a 4 bedrcom Bed and Breakfast was allowable under current zoning. Since then, NYS Building Code has changed classification of such a title. The Halsey House is a Real Estate Investment , not be used as our home, but to be converted into a Country Inn and generate It's own Income for it's existence. In order to do this we are asking for a Use Variance as It will not be profitable as a single residence." B) The plight of the owner is due to unique circumstances and not to the general conditions in the vicinity of the property. "At the time of purchasing The Halsey House we had a Bed & Breakfast • in mind and under that title the existing zoned property was acceptable for such a use. As we have progressed into this project. The Halsey House has since been re-classified as a Bi-Transcient Occupancy due to the number of persons who will be occupying the guest rooms. In order to satisfy codes under this classification, a Use Variance is needed to comply with zoning regulations." C) The variance requested will not alter the essential character of the neighborhood. "The Halsey House is being considered for the National Register of Historic Places. Our plans are to preserve, restore, and return the building and surrounding landscape to It's historic potential and to enhance the property to become an asset to the community." Also, In note to Article B, property across and to the North of the Halsey House are zoned Commercial , The Land to the South and across, • is land owned by the State. . .. • • di 7 � •l, Mrs. Potenza explained that the structure of the outside of the house will not be changed. There will be some landscape changes, driveway changes out to where it will be safer. May enlarge the screened-in porch. This property was purchased in March of 1992. Mr. Hickey asked If she was Intending to make a bed & breakfast . Mrs. Potenza stated that it will not be a Bed & Breakfast, it's more of a country •• inn. It will have small occasions and conferences and retreats, it will have seven guest rooms. She explained that they will not have a restaurant, but they will have a commercial kitchen so they can cater the occasions and serve breakfasts to guests. There will be two dining areas and will limit the large occasions to 60 people. Private dinners will be 6 to 20 people. Carl Mann asked if the State Park had a right to refuse this. Alex Rachun explained that they have a right to go against it and as such you would have to have a super-unanimous decision. Alex did state that the State Park did indicate that they felt It was a use that would be appropriate as adjacent to the Park Land. Their major concern is the driveway cut and that the driveway could be cut as far down Taughannock Park Road as possible. Alex also heard back from Jeanne Barrett at County Planning who reviewed this and she said that they would follow up with a letter stating that no harm would be done as far as County Planning is concerned, proceed on your own merit. Carl Mann asked about the septic system. Ingrid Potenza stated that the Health Department has done a perk test , the soil was excellent. The biggest problem was - the size of the replacement of it. The Health Dept. goes by the large figure on a daily basis, which requires the larger size septic system. They are in the process ® now of designing landscaping and septic now and it will fit In. The acreage Is 1 .76 acres. Having no further questions, Mr. Hickey asked to make a resolution. "Three factors to take into account as a preface to the resolution. 1 . I think the home at this point Is most infeasible for residential use, a family use, for a number of reasons including its sheer size. The cost of fuel alone is enough to give me a nightmare. The location to Route 96 and its proximity now to businesses as opposed to other residences. It Is not a residential character of an area any more. 2. Second, the fact that the area that surrounds the Halsey House now is already partially developed commercial area, possibly in classes of further development , but whether It is or whether It Isn't , the nearest establishment are businesses, the car dealership, the grocery store, and it would seem that another commercial use or quasi- commercial use would be right In line with the current use of that area. 3. There Is a great deal of value, I believe, in taking such actions that would tend to preserve this building which of course has historic value as well as functional value. Giving its lack of desirability as a residence, or lack of feasibility as a residence, it would appear that a use of this sort would be more likely to keep this building In operation, more likely to keep it up to date, keep ® It refurbished and keep It as a valuable landmark and an asset to this community. 44 7 its • • Having stated that as a preface , I move this Board to be resolved as follows: WHEREAS: It he found by this Board that the land in question cannot yield a reasonable return if used only for a purpose permitted in the district in which it is located, for the reasons I refer to my comments about attempting to use this house as a residence at this time under today's conditions; WHEREAS: The Board finds further that the plight of the owner is due to unique circumstances and not to the general conditions in the vicinity of the property. I think that's almost self-evident, the house Itself is unique, the location in which it finds itself is due to the development of the area in terms of the character; WHEREAS: The Board further finds that this variance would not alter the essential character of the neighborhood for the reasons again that I placed on the record in the preface, that this Is essentially a commercial area at this time anyway and it is certainly not a residential area and it is not likely to • become such at any time in the foreseeable future. BE IT RESOLVED: In view of the foregoing, I move that the Board grant this variance. The motion was seconded by Ken Christianson. ® Ms. Zabawsky called for a vote as follows:. Mr. Tselekis - aye Mr. Hickey - aye Mr. Mann - aye Mr. Christianson - aye Ms. Zabawsky - aye Alex explained that now the Board must review the Short Environmental Assessment Form. He spent a few minutes to explain to the Board the difference between the Short EAF and the Long EAF, stating that the long EAF is completed when there is a Type 1 action which includes many thresholds that this protect does not even begin to approach. The Type 2 action is the kind of action that this project seems to fit into - a small project with minimal disturbance to the environment . After listening to some of the thresholds that could possibly require a Type 1 action, the Board began reviewing the Short EAF. The Zoning Board then reviewed and discussed Part II of the Environmental Assessment Form. Having no further discussion regarding this form, Mr. Hickey made the following motion: "I hereby move that the Board of Zoning Appeals find as follows: that after reviewing the information supplied to us on Part I of the Short Environmental Assessment Form, and after making the determination after review of the appropriate 0 factors that this is a Type 2 rather than Type 1 type of project , we hereby find that there will be no significant adverse effects on, to or arising from any of the factors set forth in paragraph Cl through C7 on Part II of the Short Environmental • an& X71. ® Assessment Form reviewed by us and that Part III should appropriately be filled out by checking box 2 indicating no significant adverse environmental Impact for the • reasons set forth in the original resolution of approval , most notably that it would not alter the character of the neighborhood in any way, that it would not pose any threat to any of the resources of the community as set forth on the Environmental Assessment form or anywhere else, and would tend to have a positive rather than a negative effect on the preservation of this historic landmark." • The motion was seconded by Carl Mann. Mr. Tselekis - aye Mr. Hickey - aye • Mr. Mann - aye • Mr. Christianson - aye Ms. Zabawsky - aye Variance approved. The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m. • e 76 • TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING • Budget Work Session 10-14-92 PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis and Robert Weatherby; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia and Jeanne Vanderbuilt, Bookkeeper. • Mr. Hogan opened the meeting and stated that the tenative budget (copy attached) has been prepared and distributed to the Board • Members. He stated that he would like to keep the budget at a 0% increase. The Board made the following changes to the tenative budget; GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS A1010.04 change to $ 1,750 A1110.01 " 36, 648 • A1110 .04 " 3,500 A1220 .01 °' 11,998.70 • A1330.04 " 250 A1410.01 " 23,324.38 A1410 .01 10,716.16 A1410.04 " 1,000 A1620 .01 " 2,425 A1670.04 It 5,500 - A3510.04 " 6,370 • A5132.02 " 8,000 A5132.04 " 5,500 A7310.04 " 2, 600 A7310 .04 " 3,500 A7310.04 " 3,500 A7310 .04 " 5,500 A9950.09 " 2,500 The .01 accounts reflect a 4% increase. 3% is for cost of living and the other 1% is for employees on the Health insurance. The only exception to this is the Justice department (A1110 .01) were the two judges are receiving no increase. The .04 and . 02 accounts are adjusted as to the future use and the past usage. • Noted that Social Security and Workers Comp. will change as reflected in the payroll account. The Board discussed the Revenue and felt no changes were needed. The Board looked over Part-Town and Highway and decided to hold another work session next week. They would invite the Highway Crew in for salary discussions prior to the meeting. Meeting adjourned 10:30 p.m. . 4174 'I TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING Budget Work Session 10-14-92 PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis and Robert Weatherby; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia and Jeanne Vanderbuilt , Bookkeeper. Mr. Hogan opened the meeting and stated that the tenative budget (copy attached) has been prepared and distributed to the Board Members. He stated that he would like to keep the budget at a 0% . increase. The Board made the following changes to the tenative budget; ' GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS A1010.04 change to $ 1,750 A1110.01 " 36, 648 • A1110 .04 . " 3,500 A1220.01 " 11, 998.70 A1330 .04 IT 250 • A1410.01 " 23,324. 38 . " A1410.01 10,716.16 A1410.04 we 1,000 . A1620 .01 II 2 ,425 A1670.04 If 5,500 A3510 .04 " 6,370 A5132.02 It 8,000 A5132 .04 to 5,500 III A7310.04 ft 2, 600 A7310 .04 If 3 ,500 A7310 .04 " 3,500 A7310 .04 " 5,500 A9950.09 " 2,500 The .01 accounts reflect a 4% increase. 3% is for cost of living and the other 1% is for employees on the Health insurance. The only exception to this is the Justice department (A1110.01) were the two judges are receiving no increase. The .04 and .02 accounts are adjusted as to the future use and the past usage. Noted that Social Security and Workers Comp. will change as reflected in the payroll account. The Board discussed the Revenue and felt no changes were needed. The Board looked over Part-Town and Highway and decided to hold another work session next week. They would invite the Highway Crew in for salary discussions prior to the meeting. Meeting adjourned 10:30 p.m. . Ill s'r tr V 7' JOINT MEETING ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD/TOWN BOARD October 19 , 1992 PRESENT: David Tyler , Chairman Planning Board; Planning Board Members Krys Cail , Budd Stover, Richard Garner, and Dan Smith; Supervisor William Hogan; Board Members Robert Weatherby, Thomas Reitz , Catherine • Stover , and Ben Curtis; Ruth Kahn and Mark Koral . Supervisor Hogan opened meeting - 7 : 30 pm. Mr. Hogan - item # 6 is illegal in the list of the recommendations that the Planning Board passed on to the Town Board - can not zone individual or organization only a parcel - per our Town Attorney. Item #13 needs to be returned for clarification. • David Tyler - reviewed item #6 for the reasons that the Planning Board included it their recommendations . • Planning Board - asked if item #6 can be dropped Dick Garner - considered in terms of the legal - would be considering now other activities. • David Tyler - could be sold for similar use - Bar, lounge, • commercial . Krys Cail - could this be handled as a variance. Thomas Reitz/David Tyler - probably would not fly Dan Smith - #5 limits to a private club Ben Curtis - could establish a use including a social club - in the process of this PUD for the American Legion we are finding that our Zoning Ordinance does not cover this . Thomas Reitz - could it be permitted with a Special Permit Thomas Reitz/Ben Curtis - would have to apply generally to whole • Town not a specific property. Resident - Federal/NYS Laws has categories for not for, profit, • educational , etc. David Tyler - community organizations with positive aspects of value to the community, with draw backs - but where else would it go. Does this group want to recommend a Zoning Law change?? Kyrs Cail - need to be careful of writing laws for one particular use. • Ben Curtis - can address this specific problem David Tyler - lots of holes in the Town' s Zoning Ordinance Ben Curtis - we can deal with this one now not changing the law - correcting an omission Kyrs Cail - is financing a problem for the Legion - can a social club get financing 1 4 Jt. Mtg. Planning Board/Town Board 2 10-19-92 • Mark Koral - can you decide if you are going to VOTE for this first ?? Ben Curtis - the point is we must have a legitimate proposal before we can vote. David Tyler - Do we want to approve a resolution (our recommendation) without item #6? Krys Call - moved resolution to recommend American Legion PUD to the Town Board deleting item #6 . • Richard Garner - seconded resolution. Planning Board voted as follows : Richard Garner nay David Tyler nay Dan Smith nay Budd Stover aye Kyrs Cail nay Resolution to recommend was defeated ( this was the resolution that was approved July 7 , 1992 , but striking the 6th condition) . David Tyler - What does the Town Board want us to do. William Hogan - re-write recommendation to include protection re. item #6 Dan Smith - moves the following resolution; The Ulysses Planning Board recommends that the Town Board consider amending the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance to define a social club and/or not for profit organization as a category and describe where and how will be permitted. III Kyrs Cail - seconded - What is the time limit? Dan Smith - we are going into winter - not to much construction David Tyler - asked the Planning Board - no you want to recommend to the Town Board or amend previous recommendation - second do we want to decide this tonight? :• Kyrs Cail - some missing pieces she would like to have before making a decision David Tyler - what does Town Board want? William Hogan - will get information from Association of Towns on definition of a social club, not for profit organization - will need to get input from Bruce Wilson, Town Attorney - amendment to change Zoning Ordinance. Planning Board voted on motion; • David Tyler aye Dan Smith aye Budd Stover aye II/Kyrs Cail aye Richard Garner aye Adopted William Hogan and David Tyler will make a conference call to Bruce Wilson on where to go from here. :t X79 • Jt. Mtg. Planning Board/Town Board 3 10-19-92 • David Tyler - meeting on Thursday for Aubel parcel - need secretarial help - can hire from man-power. Kyrs Call - is the small shed on the Auble property legal - is it Alex that is responsible for enforcement . Ruth Kahn - are we aware that water has been tapped into by Auble. • • David Tyler - clarified that the resolution that was earlier voted on not to approve recommendation to the Town Board without item #6 constitutes recinding of the American Legion's recommendation for conditional approval for a PUD adopted July 7 , 1992 . • • Mark Koral - no point leaving PUD on table - approve or disapprove Town Board should VOTE Alex Rachun - no time limit for Town Board to act . Town Board could take no action - pending recommendation from the Planning a . Board in a change in the Zoning Law. Hearing no further business William Hogan moved for adjournment , seconded by Ben Curtis. Meeting adjourned 9:09 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia These minutes are typed from hand written notes by Ben Curtis and approved by David Tyler. • • di red ' TOWN OF ULYSSES •• SPECIAL BOARD MEETING Budget Work Session 10-21-92 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis, and Robert Weatherby; Bookkeeper Jeanne Vanderbilt; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia; Building/Zoning Inspector Alex Rachun. Prior to the meeting the Board met with the Highway crew to discuss salaries and the reimbursement or bonus offered to the employees that are on the health insurance who will losing their prescription card. The highway crew asked for a 5% pay increase and $500 bonus that could be put aside to cover prescriptions that may come up. The Board discussed pay increases and it was settled on 3 . 5% pay increase for those covered on the Town's health insurance and a �• $400 bonus to paid one time only. The other employee's would receive 3% pay increase. The exception to this would be the two justice sa' a_ies and that was decided they would remain the same as 1992. The following are changes that we made in the tenative budget; APPROPRIATIONS GENERAL OV FUND A8020 .01 changed to $ 2,000 • B8020.04 " 1,000 IllAPPROPRIATIONS HIGHWAY FUND DA9950 .9 changed to $10,000 REVENUES HIGHWAY FUND DA2302 changed to $51,870 No other changes were made on the tenative budget . Mrs. Vanderbilt will make the necessary changes to the tenative budget in the computer and have copies of the preliminary budget ready on Monday October 26. • Hearing no further discussion the meeting was adjourned at 10: 15pm vi TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING t • October 22 , 1992 October 22 , 1992 meeting of the Town of Ulysses Planning Board, Village Hall , Trumansburg, NY Members in attendance: David Tyler, Chairman; Richard Garner; Daniel Smith; Budd Stover; Geri Keil ; Krys Cail ; Alex Rachun, Building & Zoning Supervisor; Suzanne Sager , Acting Secretary. No members of the public present . D. Tyler called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 p.m. D. Tyler told the board that there had been a conference call with him, Bill Hogan and the town attorney Bruce Wilson on the American Legion project and this is what came out of the phone meeting: Item 6 - of the approved condition, which this Board told would not stand. There are a couple of things that we have been told that we can look at as follows . 1. We could amend the zoning ordinance town wide in the R-1 to permit uses like a veterans or fraternal organization, with a "social club" being a permitted use. From the perspective of amending the zoning ordinance town wide that would certainly take away most of the argument on the spot zoning issue on this particular parcel . The problem is whether it is appropriate to put something like that in a residential portion of the town wide. 2 . The other solution is to make the item 6 a broader restriction and be able to show it is part of a comprehensive plan, Question to D.Tyler from B . Stover; on the Monday night • meeting did the Town Board get a recommendation from the planning board Answer from D. Tyle:.: the previous resolution that was approved was defeated that was all that happened. So there is no recommendation to the town board but there is a directive from the Town Board to the Planning Board to come up with a recommendation. A. Rachun, Our zoning ordinance says that the planning board can only recommend 3 things in regard of a development project: • one is to approve it , the other is to not approve it or to approve it with modification. but the appeal to the town board was that you were asked to come up with a solution to this and to extend the outer bounds to that which could easily be a change in zoning. D. Tyler; The answer is : The only answer that I can see is the one that I mentioned earlier and that is amending the zoning ordinance. A. Rachun; There is nothing that can prevent you from • saying we do not approve the PUD and this is what we recommend then write a resolution recommending a change to the zoning ordinance. I , D. Smith; What does that do as far as SEQRA and all that? A. Rachun; We would have to do SEQRA on a change of zoning but once the zoning changed and that is an allowable use there would be no discretionary action. D. Tyler; But that is not the matter for • discussion tonight . There was further brief discussion of the American Legion proposal and then the board proceeded to the topic for discussion of the Auble Development Plan. D. Tyler; In that local law that was enacted last May, it says that applicants should first submit a development plan that George Schlecht called me earlier this week and said that we . got the letter the 3rd or 4th of September and the 2nd or 3rd of November (60 day period) is close upon us . It was mentioned that this would apply if the application was complete. So I think tonight that we have to deal with this thing and get something to the town board so that the town board can deal with it. Do you all have a copy of that list of things that are supposed to be provided. It is a development plan process and list of things that are supposed to happen, contained in the local law enacted last May by the Town Board on this B-2 rezoning. B. Stover; asked how that was supposed to work? D. Tyler referred the Board members to their individual copies of the Town Law, to in the framework for the Board's conclusions and findings as a result of the prior two meetings on this project. D. Tyler; How are we going to respond to this application prepared by George Schlecht? #1. Have to obtain a permit from the health department and that has not been done. #2. All state environmental quality review act documents 1 & rules applicable thereto SEQRA this pertains to the town board A. Rachun; answers D. Smith question that SEQRA approval is up to the town board and is not needed to review this project at this time. D. Tyler calls for a decision from the board. #3. General site plan showing but not limited to the following: A-T; A. yes, item B; yes through D; E. Drainage plan missing, P; Height of building not to exceed 30 feet and the drawing indicates that the buildings indeed are about 18 feet with the exception of the clock tower. G; Totally lacking, H; Inadequate pedestrian access, I; None shown, J; Lacking, K; Inadequate, L; Inadequate, M; None shown, N; Not adequate, 0; Barely adequate, P; q; R; S; Phasing not shown T. Discussion: the differences in the original concept plan vs the B-2 D. Tyler stated that the development Plan does not conform with the original Development plan on 96. It was decided that the Chairman would now dictate a letter to William Hogan, copy for George Schlecht of the findings on this plan pursuant to the Local Law, with the advice and input of the Planning Board members present as the dictation on the various points provided. See Letter dated, 10/30/92, to Bill Hogan with a copy to George Schlecht. r A: trl.l: .5,'.4�'S. ..,; J'.".:��'i:.l. .. . °c.r ••.a. ('; . n's., �:, S s.. �( .. 1./ s.. ,� , !:.`.. j� . PUBLICNHURTA 3/BUDGET November 2 , 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Ben Curtis , Robert Weatherby, Catherine Stover; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. Others Present : John Rogers, Carolyn Duddleston, Susan Zimmerman, Justice; Nancy Zahler, Rep. Co. Youth. Mr. Hogan opened the public hearing at 6: 50pm. Legal notice was published. • }" Mr. Hogan said total expenditures for the year will be $783 , 318 .00 , less estimated revenues of $199, 380 .00 ; amount to be raised by taxes $583 , 938 .00 . State of New York is changing funding on retirement system, so will have to come up with J. additional money . Up to a 3 . 31% increase in the total budget . Mr . Curtis questioned Revenue DA2302; why down by 26. 7% when discussion determined it should go down by 9%. Mr. Hogan said that Mrs. Vanderbilt, bookkeeper, will have to be asked when she ' arrives . Mr. Reitz asked about CHIPS. . .under operating and maintenance, have been advised to drop that by 30%, is that also reflected? Mr. Hogan said we will have to check on that . Mr. Reitz questioned why Part Town B8020 . 01 was not reduced to $2000 as previously decided at the budget work session. Mr . Hogan stated that he would have to ask bookkeeper. Mr. Curtis asked about DA9018 . 8 - State Retirement -also A5132 . 2 (Salt Shed) had been decided to allocate $8000 and the preliminary shows $7000 . Again the bookkeeper will have to be asked. Mr. Hogan opened the meeting to the public. ... / John Rogers representing the Youth Comm. handed out a letter from the commission asking for a better working relationship with the Town Board and a copy of the guidelines the commission were asked to follow from the Board. Mr. Hogan read through the letter . Mr. Rogers asked if Mr. Hogan and himself could get together to discuss this . Mr. Reitz asked the Supervisor what his intention was at tonight regular meeting in reference to the budget . Mr . Hogan stated that it would be open for discuss but did not have any intention of passing it tonight . Justice Susan Zimmerman presented a letter to the board asking for the justice salary to be looked into. Mrs . Duddleston asked the Board about the savings in Health Insurance. Mr. Hogan stated that the Town is going to a COMMUNITY wide program instead of the Region program that they are in now and that will save tax dollars of over $18 ,000 . Nancy Zahler asked why the tentative budget did not reflect what the people and organizations asked for in funding . Mr. Hogan _ stated that he looks at the requests and than prepares the tentative budget. Can' t put in all requests . Ms zahler states IIIthat she is a tax payer and would not mind seeing or paying more taxes for youth related services . Mr . Hogan stated that Youth did not increase in 1993 but stayed the same as 1992 . Mr. Reitz pointed out that is true but in 1992 youth services were cut by 42%. .. •'1.. ^v t;` u• �� ... _ . .n .�. i_ .., t Ir .. ,.. ., ry :ti:i• r . Wig . K ■ W Town Of Ulysses 2 Public Hearing/Budget 11-2-92 Margaret Dill representing Human Service Coalition, asked that they be reconsidered to be put back into the budget for some kind of funding. Mrs. O o gia p intped *t tthat th Preliminary Budget that the after thee last�workuseessioneana that i tannauivabewaarrecrea urn! maybe this public hearing be adjourned to a later date. Mrs . Vanderbilt, Bookkeeper did not show up so Mr. Hogan will III have to call her in reference to the previously asked questions . The Board scheduled a work session for November 10th, 1992 at 7 :00 p.m. and an adjourned Public Hearing for the same night at 8 :30 p .m. at the Town Hall . Hearing no further comments or questions Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn to November 10th at 8 :30 p.m. , moved by Mr. Curtis and seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk MG • • • 4 TO: Ulysses Town Board Members FROM: Nancy Zahler , Director DATE: November 10, 1992 RE: 3993 BUDGET FOR YOUTH SERVICES The County Youth Bureau was created, in part , to help local governments plan, finance and evaluate local youth services. After reviewing your proposed budget distributed at the November 2 public hearing and listening to the discussion, it seems that the intent of the Town Board is to budget in 1993 the same level of tax support committed in 1992. In talking with Supervisor Hogan, the Town would also want to take full advantage of all • state and county revenues available to it . In the proposed budget , town taxes would actually increase and spending would • decrease. To help you have the budget you intend I suggest you • make the following changes: • SUGGESTED STEPS FOR DEVELOPING 1993 YOUTH BUDGET 01 UPDATE 1992 APPROPRIATIONS LISTED IN "BUDGET AS MODIFIED" • 02 UPDATE 92 BUDGETED AND YTD REVENUES 03 RECALCULATE THE NET TAX SUPPORT IN 1992 04 BUILD THE 93 BUDGET. BY MAINTAINING 92 LEVEL OF TAX SUPPORT AND FULLY USING ALL STATE AND COUNTY AID 05 BUDGET 1 LUMP SUM (OR 1 FOR RECREATION AND 1 FOR YOUTH SVS) Mb CREATE SEPARATE ACCOUNTS WHEN THE BOARD ACTS ON SPECIFIC YOUTH COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS s . b1UPDATE 1992 APPRPORIATIONS LISTED IN PUDGET AS MODIFIED The Town has agreed to pay the following amounts in 19921 YOUTH- SUMMER REC A7310. 1 • 3,500 DARE 2,556 LIBRARY 2, 124 UYU 9,534 COMMUNITY FORUM 131 Youth Appropriations sub-total • 17,845 vs 15, 100 • • • AMMMUMr • • 02UPDATE 1992 BUDSETED AND YTD REVENUES • YOUTH-NYS-REC 1 , 152 YOUTH-NYS-YOUTH SVS 1 ,008 _. YOUTH-COUNTY YOUTH SVS 7.573 vs 3,500 for the following: • DARE = 2,056 • Library = 1 ,212 UYU = 4, 174 Community Forum = 131 7,573 • Youth Revenues sub-total 9,733 vs 5,600 • Year to Date Revenuer The County wrote checks to the Town on October 30 for 1 ,672 for UYU 1 .262, for Library sub-total of YTD 2,934 NOTE: State aid vouchers have been submitted but not yet paid for 1 ,008 for UYU and 1 , 152 for Recreation. To get the balance of County Youth Sys aid , the agencies must bill the Town, the Town must make payments and submit vouchers. 413RECALCULATE THE NET TAX SUPPORT IN 1992 Total appropriation of 17,845 Less total revenues - 9.733 '92 Net cost to Town - 8, 112 • 4148UILD THE 93 BUDGET BY MAINTAINING 92 LEVEL OF TAX SUPPORT AND FULLY USING ALL STATE AND COUNTY AID • A. COMMIT 8, 112 in Town taxes B. APPROPRIATE 9,657 in available Revenue C. TOTAL APPROPRIATION = 17,769 vs 15, 110 D. BUDGET ALL AVAILABLE REVENUE = 9,657 • 1 , 152 from NYS for Recreation in Rev. Acct • 3820. 1 1 ,008 from NYS for Youth Sys in Rev. Acct 3820.2 7.497 from Tompkins County in Rev. Acct 2800 9,657 (NOTE: In State Accounting Guidelines, 3= State source 2= Inter-govt ' l (County) B as second 0= Youth prog •• NSUDGET 1 LUMP SUM SOR 1 FOR RECREATION AND 1 FOR YOUTH SVS) YOUTH-SUMMER REC A7310. 1 3,500 YOUTH-YOUTH SVS A7310.0 14,269 (Balance 17,769-3,500) 06CREATE SEPARATE ACCOUNTS WHEN THE BOARD ACTS ON SPECIFIC YOUTH COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS Once the Youth Commission knows the funds available, it will submit a detailed spending plan for your approval recommending which programs should receive how much appropriation and revenue. Once the Town Board approves the specifics, new, specific appropriation and revenue accounts can be created by transferring funds and revenue from the general lump sum accounts to the specific programs. TIP- The County uses a separate sub-account number for each program appropriation (for example A7310.41 ; A7310.42 etc ) and a corresponding code for each program' s revenue so that expenses and revenues can be reconciled by program. The Youth Bureau can help with this once specific decisions have been made. • WORKSHEET TO MAKE CHANGES APPROPRIATIONS , PROPOSED BUDGET SUGGESTED CHANGES YOUTH-SUMMER EMPLOYMENT A7310. 1 LEAVE BLANK FOR 92 & 93 YOUTH-SUMMER REC:-NYS A7310. 1 NO CHANGE — t NYC YOUTH-UYU PROGRAM-NYS A7310.4 FOR 1992: $ 9,534 FOR 1993 LEAVE BLANK (for now) YOUTH-COUNTY PROGRAMS A7310.4 LEAVE BLANK FOR 1992 & 1993 • aim YOUTH-YOUTH SVS A7310 92= BLANK 93= 14,269 YOUTH-DARE A7310.42 92= 2,956 93= BLANK YOUTH-LIBRARY A7310.43 92= 2, 124 93= BLANK YOUTH-COMM. FORUM A7310.44 92= 131 93= BLANK REVENUES PROPOSED BUDGET SUGGESTED CHANGES YOUTH-SUMMER EMPLOYMENT 3820 NO CHANGE YOUTH-SUMMER REC-NYS 3820 NO CHANGE YOUTH-UYU PROGRAM-NYS 3820 92= NO CHANGE 93= BLANK YOUTH-COUNTY PROGRAMS 3820 CHANGE TITLE: YOUTH-TOMPKINS COUNTY 92= BLANK 93= 7,497 • YOUTH-UYU 2801 92= 4, 174 93= BLANK YOUTH-DARE 2802 92= 2,056 93= BLANK YOUTH-LIBRARY 2803 92= 1 ,212 93= BLANK YOUTH-COMM. FORUM 2804 92= 131 93= BLANK (NOTE: In State Accounting Guidelines, 3= State source 2= Inter-govt ' l (County ) B as second 0 = Youth prog ) TOWN OF ULYSSES COURT Town of Ulysses e. 10 Elm Street, P.O. Box 1058 Trumansburg, N.Y. 14886 N107)387-5411 FAX (607)387-5843 Town Council Members Town of Ulysses 10 Elm St. Trumansburg, N .Y. 14886 • November 2, 1992 Dear Council Members: I hereby request you to reconsider my Town Justice salary for 1993 as is described in the Town of Ulysses 1993 Proposed Budget. Historically, the salaries of the two elected Ulysses Town Justices have been, for the most part, equal. The Office of Court Administration has recently mandated a system which equalizes the caseload of Judge Rector and myself . I have • met all of the mandated advanced education requirements and continue to be certified to fulfill the duties of my elected position without restriction . • I have attached my documentation for your review. Yours truly, • Susan F . Zimmerman, Town Justice 3usr \ • STATE OF NEW YORK I U A !i •' \ • UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM S U % \ 9921 '.•1a•�• SIXTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT, ;� ,; SUPREME COURT CHAMBERS ''- P.O. BOX 170e jOWNOFUI BINGHAMTON, NEW YORK 13901 �1 11071 778.2428 ,1 MATTHEW : Oe C°lo t m September 17, 1992 JOSEPH J. TRAFICANTI, JR. . ROBERT W. COUTANT Osowy Chit!Admindlnitive Judde . Dllldct Admilatlt.lwe Judge ' Cowls Outside New Yolk City Shin Judicial Dinka 1 ' Christine Springer, Town Clerk Town of Ulysses Justice Court • • 10 Elm Street, P.O. Box 1056 ' • Trumansburg, NY 14886 la • Dear Ms . Springer: . • It has come to my attention that' matters pending before the Town of Ulysses Court are not being randomly distributed • between the two judges. :. Effective October 1, 1992, all criminal matters in which a plea of not guilty is initially made are to be randomly and evenly distributed between Judges Rector and Zimmerman . Matters in which a guilty plea. is entered on arraignment may be retained by the arraigning justice. All civil matters are also to be randomly and evenly distributed between the two judges . • Further, I request that ' you advise me by October 1, • . 1992 as to the method that will be utilized in making the random • assignments . I also request that you advise me on a monthly basis, commencing on or about November 1, 1992, as to the number of civil cases and the number of criminal cases assigned to each . justice. • • ' Thank you for your kind assistance in this matter. • Very truly yours, ROBERT W. -COUTANT . ADMINISTRATIVE JUSTICE • SIXTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT • RWC/j • cc : Hon . Roger N. Rector at n. Susan F. Zimmerman • • • •V. •, ••O STATE OF NEW YORK E C' E V E r 41 UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM • i SIXTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT SFP 2 g _•�;•►•.: SUPREME COURT CHAMBERS •- • P.O. BOX NEW 1766 N OF ULTRSSTES .:: •,.•• BINGHAMTON. NEW YORK 13901 lOW WN 18071 778-2428 • MATTHEW at CROSSON September 23, 1992 Chid Administrator of IM Courts a JOSEPH J. TRAFICANTI, JR. ROBERT W. COUTANT •� Deputy Chiel Administrative Judge District Administrative Judge -' Courts Outside New York City Sian Judicial DOOM r. • Christine Springer Town of Ulysses Court Clerk 10 Elm Street, P.O. Box 1056 Trumansburg, NY 14886 • Dear Chris: • In response to your letter of September 21 and our • conversation of the 22nd, my direction of September 17 is clarified and amplified as follows : - All criminal cases, including V&T cases, in which pleas of not guilty are initially entered, and all civil cases are to • be randomly and evenly assigned between Justices Rector and Zimmerman according to the enclosed computer generated random assignment list. The list should be used independently for . criminal cases and for civil cases. When utilizing the random assignment list, the cases to be assigned should be placed in alphabetical order according to the defendant' s last name and then assigned. For example, on the first occasion of utilizing this system, all appropriate criminal and V&T charges would be alphabetized and then assigned pursuant to the list. Then the pending civil cases would be alphabetized and assigned according _ to the list, with each category starting at the top of the list. This will afford each justice the same number of criminal cases - and the same number of civil cases. In using this method, you are spared any allegation of tampering with either the manner of assignment or the cases assigned to either justice. If any further clarification is needed, please let me know. ' Very truly yo • • ROBERT W. COUTANT ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE RWC/j Enclosure • 1. . I M P U N $ o ffii ` g ad U SN o C ta N ° c = t q a a of CD ° S , N c M C N a 'T V ' M W Q z zz a 1 4 ` ar ` 1 w. 0 9 w i y.� y °IV ° $ m °CD g •« ` 8ro8 o Q `o ° N « 01 $ ° a • V C _ I{ .• G Si• � '� ," ° vro m «E H 2 az 03 . 0 M :a 41 m y 5 V W C U N m N tat tl t 1 2 ON1 2 el $ « r�•1 a Q w 01 .° O �°., D . m • m . 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W C O O 1.74 .r 7_t O O CO `0 ° CO t2 ° m m °o `o oI- o c0i z fa CO g 0 a C 4� v W t gM W C 2 1+ m 7 0 0 V m 0 « O.L' m N W V Eo=' ° v row m $ TWO V a)72 .0.6 > 00 Pill y °� � x 3 nU a00vg �' c • k ti m Y m « 0 o E ° • U � 0 c C ci.o ° Eo ° w10 oo ° W� O co 2 • co c W W LC m ii 8 O W H L ' 0 t 0 I'. p 2 O W W 0 0 m � .0 01 _ ,CD y O V O LCI �c CW m W y � « IL c N O M st m F c - c Lj • E ° > a E ` 0 re « `° > 'S ru. r• October 27, 1992 To the Members of the Ulysses Town Board: • During the past 24+ months members of the Joint Youth Commission have worked very hard in our efforts to serve you on behalf of the youth of the Trumansburg/Ulysses area. We inherited a confusing group of programs which had informal accountability to the Town and Village. Since then we have attempted to make gradual changes to improve and enhance services without making major disruptive changes without good, documented cause. We tried to bring order to the various services provided to our youth ; we examined and reviewed the delivery of these services and identified how these services meet the needs of our youth. While further improvement is necessary , a concrete plan, based on local youth and parent input ,• is in place and we are in the process of implementing it. It is with much sadness that this letter is written for we believe the efforts of the Joint Youth Commission have been ignored . As we are sure you realize, the Joint Youth Commission held a community forum during this past spring . The purpose of this forum was to identify and discuss issues and concerns for the program needs of our youth. Many members of the community attended and participated in this forum and a multiple page document was prepared for your perusal and information. Included in this document were ideas, suggestions and recommendations for programs that could or should be developed to meet the needs of the youth of Trumansburg and Ulysses. This final document was presented prior to your September meeting. In conjunction with this document recommendations for this funding cycle were also included. Unfortunately, it appears • that members of the board took little time to review or discuss the document and recommendations we worked so hard on. Once again we find ourselves at odds regarding the purpose and function of the Joint Youth. Commission. Studies and recommendations are made, yet it appears that little attention is paid to these by members of the Board. We understand and accept that we are an "advisory group. " We also understand that the Town Board has the right and responsibility to make final funding decisions. However , we are confused and upset because we have not heard any complaints about our direction or any clearly stated disagreement with specific recommendations. We do not expect you to adopt every recommendation from the Commission, but we would like the opportunity to discuss honest differences so that together we can best meet the needs of youth and families. • -�E .. S. ,iy We are willing to respond to specific questions, concerns and criticisms. We thought we proved that by making sure our work plans clearly include ways to respond to the concrete concerns raised by Board members. However , when we get neither thanks nor specific critical feedback from the Town Board, we feel that we • have wasted our time. When the Town seems unwilling to restore funds or expand services to meet documented needs, we can 'only conclude that our services are not needed and youth are not important to the Town Board. We are willing to continue to volunteer on behalf of the youth in the Town but only if we can have an open and honest exchange with the Board in which we can clarify our purpose and your expectations. We recommend that an active, working partnership be established in the immediate future as clearly spelled out in the operating guidelines of the Youth Commission that were adopted by a Town Resolution in 1988. These guidelines are attached for your examination. We look forward to hearing from you and discussing a plan for resolving this matter . Sincerely, • E. • c /- ' .S • TOWN OF ULYSSES 10 Elm Street WILLIAM P.HOGAN,Supervisor P.O. Box 721 THOMAS F.REm,Counaip.non • MARSHAL GEORGIA,Town Clerk Trumansburg, New York 14886 ROBERT A.WEATHERBY,Counalp.rson JAMES A.MEEKER,Highway Superintendent CAROLYN J.DUDDLESTON,Councilperson ALEX RACHUN,Zoning/Budding Supervisor 607-387-5767 CATHERINE STOVER,Counalp.rson • OCTOBER 26, 1992 Ithaca Journal 123 W. State St. Ithaca, NY 14850 TRUMANSBURG FREE PRESS MAIN ST TRUMANSBURG, NY 14886 PLEASE PUBLISH THE FOLLOWING IN THIS WEEKS EDITION: October 28th, 1992 NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Preliminary Budget for the fiscal year of 1993 has been completed and filed in the Office of the Town Clerk at 10 Elm St. , Trumansburg, NY where it is available for inspection by any interested person during office hours. FURTHER NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses will meet and review the said Preliminary Budget and hold a Public Hearing thereon at the Town Hall, 10 Elm St. , Trumansburg,NY on the 2nd day of November at 6: 45 p.m. Citizens attending the hearing have the right to provide written and/or oral comments and ask questions concerning the entire budget. Pursuant to section 108 of Town Law the proposed salaries of the following Town Officers are hereby specified as follows: Supervisor $5622. 85 Town Council (4) $2530.75ea; Town Clerk $23211. 95; Highway Supt $31455.72; Justice #1-$9115. 50; Justice #2 -$4120; Tax Collector $3208. 50. By Order of the Town Board Marsha L. Georgia <{ y TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING November 2 , 1992 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Ben Curtis , Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Zoning/Building Alex Rachun; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . Others Present : Carolyn Duddleston, Nancy Zohler, Holly Hyde/Free Press , James Mason, Ruth Kahn, Joe Schrer, • Pack 3 Webelos/Cub Scouts . Pack 3 Scouts led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. •• Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Town Board, Town of Ulysses, to order at 7 : 45pm. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of October 5 , 1992; Special Board Meeting of October 3 , 1992 ; Special Board Meeting of October 14, 1992 and Special Board Meeting of October 21 , 1992 . Moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Questions on the October 21st meeting . . .appropriations , OV Fund B8020 was typographical error typed as A8020 ; Mrs . Stover questioned B3410 .01 and Mrs . Georgia pointed out that item in a previous paragraph. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Curtis aye • Approved. ® Report : Trumansbure Fire Department Absent • Report : Representative James Mason Mr. Mason reviewed some of the County budget concerns/problems . Ready to award bids on airport terminal project, but USA is now dragging their feet . No tax dollars involved. USA wants to negotiate. Mr. Reitz asked if the fire and EMT will someday tie into a 911 system. Mr. Mason said it does everything at this point except provide for the three-digit dialing. Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #365-402 in the amount of $10 ,761 . 63 . Moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Pn , y'!J) Mr. Hogan aye N� JI ',V t ' Mr. Reitz aye / ��b' Mrs. Stover aye b J ;, h, Mr. Weatherby aye it �!1 Mr. Curtis aye �1�/ �� Approved. Supervisor's Financial Report (� v TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING November 2, 1992 Not available . Hearing of Delegations and Individuals None present . OLD BUSINESS • Auble Development Request Mr . Hogan distributed copies of a letter received from David • Tyler . Basically saying that the Auble Development Plan submitted September 4, 1992 is incomplete in many ways . Mr. Reitz asked if minutes of the Planning Board meetings were available to review. There have been three meetings . Wondering what position this puts the Town Board in. . .should we table it . Mr. Hogan said we can send them a letter indicating that their request is incomplete as reviewed by the Planning Board; when it • is complete we will review it again. Mr . Rachun said he spoke • with George Schlecht; agreed there may be some justification regarding some areas . Would support a letter being sent . Also, regarding SEQR; that is a Town Board function, Planning Board can review it with the idea in mind that SEQR in and of itself cannot be used as a tool to create or prevent something from going on; an example of that would be water . Vacancies - Town Positions As an aside. . .Mr . Hogan said that we have advertised for a Supervisor for the Recycling Center; haven' t received any • inquires as yet . Have vacancies on Planning Board and Youth Commission also. Mrs . Georgia said there will be an article in the FreePress . Mrs . Georgia said that a resignation had been received from Anna Wood, Receiver of Taxes . Mr. Reitz asked that this item be included in the agenda for the Special Board Meeting . to be held November 10, 1992 . Street Lighting Received a call from Bruce Wilson, Town Attorney. Finally completed negotiations with Seafuse's attorney and has sent Resolution and a copy of the agreement . Owner of property, Jim Seafuse, will have this in the deed. . .any future owner too will be responsible to pay all monthly fees , maintenance fees , anything to do with this street lighting system. Town will be billed and we in turn will bill Shursave. The Agreement with Mr. Seafuse was and reviewed. Mr. Reitz felt that the wording needed to be changed a bit to reflect the same conditions as the Resolution. Mr . Hogan read the following • Resolution. CERTIFIED RESOLUTION At a regular held meeting of the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses held the 2nd day of November, 1992 , the following Resolution was duly passed: WHEREAS, the Town of Ulysses has an interest in the health, safety and welfare of its residents and general public and, WHEREAS, it has come to the attention of this Board that the installation by the New York State Electric and Gas Corporation of lighting fixtures, is desirable, at the intersection of Route 96 in the Town with the present location of the T-Burg Foodline Inc. , a supermarket type 017 TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING November 2 , 1992 store, owned by Jimmy G. Seafuse, as reflected in a deed to him dated January 6, 1988 and recorded in the Tompkins County Clerk 's Office in Liber 633 of Deeds at page 102 ; and • WHEREAS, the Town Board is desirous of aiding and assisting Jimmy G. Seafuse in improving the lighting at that intersection for the mutual benefit of both the Town and the owner of the premises ; and WHEREAS, the owner of said real estate, Jimmy G. Seafuse, has submitted an agreement to the Town, duly approved by our attorney, whereby Mr. Seafuse will be responsible to the • Town for all fees , assessments and charges levied by New York State Electric and Gas against the Town in connection with the installation and maintenance of said lighting fixtures , including, but not restricted to, payment of the monthly or semi-monthly charge for electricity consumed, and shall save the Town harmless from any and all claims or causes of actions arising from, or relating to, the installation, maintenance or use of said lighting fixtures; and said Mr . Seafuse or his successor in interest shall be responsible for the costs of removing or replacing all or any portion of any said lighting fixtures , should they be • removed at the request of Mr . Seafuse in the future and that the Town would have no liability for the cost of such removal ; and WHEREAS, Mr. Seafuse has agreed to record said written agreement thus binding his title records so that his successors in interest would also be responsible for any costs of installation, removal or maintenance to the Town, so that the Town of Ulysses would not be ultimately responsible for said costs; and NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized to enter into an agreement as stated above with Jimmy G. Seafuse on behalf of the Town of Ulysses , • which may be recorded in the Tompkins County Clerk's Office making Mr. Seafuse and his successors in interests liable for the installation, maintenance or possible removal at a • later time and all costs and liabilities related to the installation of said lighting poles for the mutual benefit of both parties at the intersection of the Route 96 highway in the Town of Ulysses and the entrance way to T-Burg Foodline, Inc. , a supermarket owned and presently on the premises of Jimmy G. Seafuse. • BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Supervisor is hereby authorized to enter into an agreement with New York State Electric and Gas , on a form to be approved by the Town Attorney authorizing New York State Electric and Gas to install lighting at the intersection of Route 96 in the Town of Ulysses and the entrance to the premises owned by Mr. Seafuse, and that the costs of installation and yearly maintenance of said lighting shall be the responsibility of the Town of Ulysses and to come from an appropriate account for purposes of installation and maintenance of said - lighting to the benefit of the residents of the Town of S Ulysses for purposes of public safety, but that said agreement shall not be executed by the Town Supervisor pursuant to this resolution until such time as the indemnification agreement with Mr. Seafuse, as referred to above, has been or will be simultaneously executed to indemnify the Town of Ulysses for said costs . ..5''a • 4..i`••i::iiy:i :V".l'.., .• •1 . (:;ti .1 ti •.�•' .1.41. :4 't: `c ut . 1 . .a. J , LC• TOWN OF ULYSSES 4 REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING November 2, 1992 • 7 .k; Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve the aforementioned Resolution as amended, with approval of Ulysses Town Attorney, • .r and the amended Agreement , as presented. Moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mr . Curtis . Mr . Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye i Mr. Weatherby aye III J. cd • Mr . Curtis aye Adopted. B-2 Zone/Pleasant Grove Association Alex stated that the application made March 29, 1991 for a PUD on •• the old Andree property, for a Pleasant Grove Associates Mixed Business District has been put on hold [by them] ever since the = Town started talk on B2 District for the Auble property; they ,. have been waiting to see what would happen. At this point they would like to strongly urge some kind of movement on their request , and if it 's not being considered for a B2 to proceed as a PUD because they do have interested parties . Mr. Curtis asked if we hadn' t sent a message to the Master Plan Committee or Planning Board that they give some consideration to . other locations for a B2? Mr. Rachun said this is one of the properties to consider . Mr . Rachun said that in all fairness to the property owners, the Town Board should take some action. Mr. Reitz asked if the •. application for a PUD and 82 requirements are similar enough to ;: n t TOWN OF ULYSSES 5 REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING November 2 , 1992 4 . ."a shoulders down, prepared trucks for winter. Attended Highway Superintendent' s meeting . Discussed fuel tanks at Town Barns, coat of fuel , insurance, etc. Z��lBuildin��ector - Mr. Rachun reported two new starts, 6 permits issued. There is a purchase offer for the County Home; person wants to attempt to convert it to senior apartments . Correspondence • Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence received. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn the meeting, moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 10 : 30pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk ,' pm • ., 4I t :z .V-.s eid'•iT � ( .z. t" .v ✓:A• �••, ; 3.. 4.' ,'.,i%."e :•,Kit 1�:.. ..; .': . !' ,S .�! .r,. •. is e. . >( . , ?+T i• • 40000 TOWN OF ULYSSES = •' BUDGET WORK SESSION November 10 , 1992 PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis and Robert Weatherby; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia; .. Building/Zoning Insp . Alex Rachun. Others Present : Bookkeeper Jeanne Vanderbuilt; County Youth Rep. Nancy Zahler. fl - Supervisor Hogan opened the meeting at 7 : 10 p.m. - ' The work session on the budget started with the Highway Appropriations as previously agreed to with Mr. Meeker . Mr. Meeker was asked about DA2302 - other government revenue - it was originally in the budget as $57 ,000 . Mr. Meeker explained that the figure of $41,774 was the 1993 contract with the County. • This is based on what was done in the past . Due to more salting than snow plowing the rate is down over last year. It does not -;r take as many man hours to salt than it does to snow plow and salt . This can be re-adjusted if the winter is harder: Mr. Meeker stated that $41,774 is the snow contract only and he also will be reimbursed for mowing which will be around $3000 . Mrs . Stover asked about DA5130 .04 - do you anticipate using - it is budgeted for $40 ,000 and the year to date actual spent figure • is $18 , 263. Mr. Meeker explained that actual only goes to September and he will probably use the good share of this . Mrs . Stover asked again if this could not be reduced or the .01 accounts . Mr. Meeker explained that he can draw from different payroll accounts if one goes over. Mr. Meeker explained other parts of the budget . Mr. Curtis and Mr. Weatherby arrived late and Mr. Meeker repeated ® what had previously been discussed. The Board continued to discuss cuts in the highway. Mrs . Stover stated that she would rather see DA5130 . 04 lower and be a more realistic figure and set up a contingency. They asked Mr . Meeker how he felt about cuts. Mr. Meeker was totally against . He uses any left over monies in the accounts to be transferred to equipment reserve. He feels if he totally relied upon the Boards to place monies into the reserve accounts the Town would have to Bond to buy equipment . Mr. Meeker stated that most towns are on a 5/10 year replacement for equipment, but that the Town of Ulysses is more like 20++years . The Board finally agreed with Mr. Meeker. Mrs . Stover again stated that she would like to reduce DA5130 .04 to $35000 and establish a $5000 contingency. Mr. Curtis stated that he feels that Mr. Meeker works hard to get the full miles out of the budget and would suggest to leave it alone. Mr. Curtis asked about the retirement expenses. Jeanne explained this to him. Mr. Reitz discussed the Chips monies. Mr. Meeker advised the Board as to correspondence that he had received in regards to Chips . • • • . _ •.�•. � f�.• . .L s � na_.•J.. 4''• + .. fi..t :/"1 le Town of Ulysses Budget Work Session It 11-10-92 The following changes were made: DA2302 (revenue) $47 ,774 . DB3501 (revenue) 30 , 600. Nancy Zahler of Tompkins County Youth explained to the Board how ,l. they could increase the expenses in the budget for 1993 because the actual 1992 expenses in the budget did not reflect the true expenses nor did the revenue (see attached explanation) . Mr . Reitz presented a petition in regards to election inspectors pay for elections . They are asking for a $30 . increase for Election Day work. The Board discussed and decided that they would increase this by $10 . Elections day pay for inspectors will be increasedto $80 . The other days will remained the same • as before. No additional monies for the custodians . • The Board discussed the Justices salaries . The general consensus of the Board was the same as before. No salary increase for either Justice. • The following changes were made to General Fund. • • GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS A1450 .04 $13790 . A5132 .02 8000 . A7310 .04 17769. GENERAL FUND REVENUE A3820 NYS $ 2160 . A3820 COUNTY 7497 . The following is a correction that was not previously made on the preliminary budget . B8020 . 01 2000 . Lengthy discussion took place for the establishment of salary for 1993 for an appointed Receiver of Taxes to fill the term for one year. The Clerk asked to have the salary that was in effect in the 1991 budget of $3000 . After a long discussion Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover to set the salary at $2750 . for 1993 . The clerk asked if the Board planned on appointing anyone from now until January 1st . Mr. Hogan could see that no work had to be done from now until January 1 . The Clerk pointed out that all the reapportions had to be done and also the tax bills are sent out before January 1 . No compensation was established for this period. No appointment to the position was made. Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye • Adopted Hearing no further business Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to II/adjourned to November 17th, 1992 at 7 :00 p.m. , moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mr. Curtis . Unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned at 10 : 45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk MG . •• -- 7. Where Cz S on Q eu7irricrrcJ �a + S/�nSpAec 7'rs Gvfl2 > ��f 1100QI t0 % // M so ': /end where o s Oh &eharS 5 /e�.t,bh Thud Xn syec.tors toorK trap-, (o Am -fo rj' h/72 (more fhcu- 7<'wic,e. the number oI ))DW"s t$' Prifrail TJaLLJ ) . . -gor * 70 • We- fe i'fr'on 7-he bad sse,s /own Board --or an increase. 830 - r Workincy 1-At aenercif ..S/ac,.6'or, 'bay Put kin5 +Ae oat7pra erg. •h 4 r 7'-hrxf est*y hP /DU • /vcun o - ' /ft cjsses 2E Icc_M r? Zhs/oecfors 7itedd---) , titivb-- _ /a,7dxe/Aee - . FA-tee/2i -74 a_cat . . tg . Aga-et 4 . }s z ��(n , �vJo�� . c�.Lc�/a ��l - it, • TOWN OF ULYSSES ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING BUDGET 11-10-92 No one showed from the Public for any comments and/or questions . . . . . TOWN OF ULYSSES 10 Elm Street P.O. Box 721 Trumansburg, New York 14886 607387.5767 SPECIAL BOARD MEETING TUESDAY - NOVEMBER 10 , 1992 AT TOWN HALL 7: 00PM ADJOURNED PUBLIC HEARING ON BUDGET 11-10-92 8 : 30 PM IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING WORK BUDGET j� Y� .:'. r ..°r. 4d. f ; rr. s s•'6':. u,i+.ell�Vl,';C�Yj�?(J.. , 4va'R re.y r. - � } .. . '•�. , .Y"I':•ys . e P .t a vii, TOWN OF ULYSSES 'fl PLANNING BOARD MEETING • Village Hall I November 12, 1992 PRESENT : Chairman, David Tyler; Planning Board Members : Krys Call, Bud Stover, Dan Smith, Geraldine Keil ( for latter part of meeting) ; Secretary* Hazel Osterhout. rt OTHERS PRESENT: Mary MoLallen, Charlie Oats, Mark Corl, Joanne Molino, Bruce Kahn, Mary Ellen Johnson, Mrs. Parsons, and other neighbors. < 1 Chairman David Tyler called the meeting to order at 7340 p.m. , ., introducing the new secretary, Hazel Osterhout, and stating that Gerry Keil would be a little late. 4 . Dave Tyler referred to the Minutes of the Joint Meeting of the Ulysses Planning Board and the Town Board, which took place on October 19th with discussion of the American Legion' s PUD request . , As you will recall, we didn't have a recording secretary that night • and Ben Curtis, Town Board member, was good enough to take notes on what transpired. Marsha Georgia has now attempted to translate those notes into something a little more readable . Does anyone have any ,questions regarding these minutes? It was determined that the resolution to recommend American Legion' s PUD to the Town Board deleting Item #6 was defeated (originally passed on July 7th) . Dan Smith said that the Zoning Ordinance does not provide for this type of use, and this is something that should be considered. What the Town Board said basically is that it' s back in our laps. Continuing with the October 19th Minutes, at the bottom of page 3, change "a where" to "aware" . And on page 4, the third line should reads "constitutes rescinding• of the American Legion' s recommenda- tion for conditional approval for a PUD, adopted July 7th. " With these additions, deletions, or corrections, KryB Cail made the motion to approve Minutes of October 19th, seconded by Dan Smith. All in favor and carried. • r Dave * Moving on to the Minutes of October 22, 1992, our last bit of ,business on the Auble approval, compiled by acting secretary Suzanne Sager. You all received copies of the letter and the corrected letter in the mail (bottom three lines of the first page had been deleted by the computer in the original) . This letter will be considered part of the proceedings. On the second page of the Minutes where the type changes is material which is as I recalled it, since the secretary was unable to understand some things on the _• , tape. If there is no further discussion, I will entertain a motion to approve. Krys Cail made .the motion to approve Minutes of October 22nd, including corrected letter, seconded by Dan Smith. All approved and carried. III • ''�, •i''; !' # a' t. '4 i7• i ^nfl .,i i.:.Col_, n;<j(.3� 't�, y: . .:( i.. ptt - 2 �a�N - Dave Tyler stated he had told the others present that further business of the evening would be a discussion of a question possibly involving litigation, and that we had been advised by • Counsel that our Board should have the opportunity to go into Executive Session for this purpose . Before we get into that, I would like to say that ooming out of the Joint Meeting with the Town. Board, there was a charge to us to go back and take another look at this whole issue, and this Executive Session will be preliminary to that, so I think that some people here who will be leaving at that time may want to know when we will have our next meeting. After some discussion it was decided that next Thursday, November 19, at 7s30 p.m. , here in the Village Hall, would be a mutually convenient date for the next meeting. This will be an '.t. open meeting and you are all certainly welcome to be here . • • Krys Gail: Does anybody have any general information in answer to some of the questions that we could present at this point, with regard to getting some definitions? Dave : This is part of what we • will be talking about in Executive Session. Dave + What I want to do before we entertain a motion on the Executive Session is ask if any of you have any just very general comments you want to make before leaving? perhaps a general • statement that you want us to be aware of while you are all here . • Mary McLallens Are you taking a new recommendation to the Town Board - is that the idea? Dave : The Town Board has asked us to make a recommendation - that' s what came out of the Joint Meeting. As you know, we passed that resolution recommending approval of the PUD in July. Counsel for the Town came back and said one of our conditions really wasn't permiss- ible, so we then reconsidered it as we had passed it before but with that one condition obliterated - and with that condition taken out, the majority of this Planning Board did not feel prepared to approve it in that form. What this did was take the previous approval off the table, and the Town Board puts it back in our laps to deal with, so that' s where we are at this moment. In answer to your further question, if you are talking about changing the Zoning Laws, you are talking about something town-wide, which is one of the things discussed at that joint meeting. So, I guess this gives you a sense • • of where we are' at the moment. Neighbors Is there any way to ' change the access road to Curry instead of 227, since Borden owns the land all around us? Davea I don't have an answer to that, and the access really isn't the issue. It may be something that might ameliorate the thing from the perspective of some of the neighbors, perhaps, but it' s not the issue we are trying to wrestle; we have a more fundamental issue . We have a proposal and the application is still in front of us . They have presented quite a bit of material, and one of the things we have • to do is make sure they are noti:"ied of the next meeting so the • American Legion people can be here as well. I realize that we do need to do better with notification. • • Krys Cail: Another point should be made that Minutes, when they have been approved, are posted at the Town Hall, and you can go there to read them if you want to keep up with proceedings. Dave : The purpose of the Executive Session, which we are going .into shortly, is not to keep people in the dark, but basically there are times when this sort of meeting encourages a frank discussion among the Board members about something that might be. a problem, so they can deal with it without prejudicing what they are going to do thereafter. We are just going to evaluate. We don't make decisions, we can't. We are not going to be on the record. Basically we are going to be discussing the issue . In answer to another question from a neighbor, I am sure there are going to be several more meetings before things are resolved. -•• Dave : I'm prepared to entertain a motion to go into Executive Session. Krys Cails I move that we go into Executive Session for the remainder of the meeting, the purpose being that we will be discussing things that could potentially involve litigation. Seconded by Dan Smith. Meeting adjourned to Executive Session at 8:20 p .m. • • } + a,e, I f •s t' fir. I,� n •'xti 1. . .. 1� I 1 ♦ r . • . � � If ' • i, il. t': TOWN OF ULYSSES 4 SPECIAL BOARD MEETING • BUDGET WORK SESSION 11-17-92 PRESENT: William Hogan, Supervisor; Councilpeople Catherine Stover, Thomas Reitz , Robert Weatherby and Ben Curtis; Jeanne Vanderbilt, Bookkeeper; Marsha Georgia, Town Clerk. Supervisor Hogan opened the meeting at 7 : 15 p.m. Mrs . Vanderbilt passed out a revised preliminary budget for the Board to review. Mr. Hogan stated that he had reviewed the copy of the revised preliminary budget and felt that everything had been updated from their last meeting. Mrs . Stover asked what the assessment had gone up to. Mrs . Georgia looked it up from last years budget and stated that it had gone up by about 2 .79 million. • The Board discussed the tax collector salary and the bookkeeper stated that in the preliminary budget it is at $3209. Mrs. • Stover asked if this should be left at $3000 or the $2750 . • Mr. Reitz stated that this position certainly hade been a thorn in the Board's side for several years and maybe it would be a good idea to put the salary at $2751 and put $250 in the contractual for a bonus to be paid .t the end of the year if every thing was balanced out and the Count" and the Town Board was satisfied that the job was complete and done well . The Board discussed this possibility and decided to change this in the budget; A1330 . 01 changed to $2750 A1330 .04 changed to 500 . Mrs . Georgia asked what the Board was to do about compensation for the remaining months of 1992 . The Board discussed this and Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following; • RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of • Ulysses appoint Marsha L. Georgia to fill out the remainder of 1992 and be compensated at the rate of $10 .00 per hour but not to exceed 20 hours or $200. • Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye • Adopted Mr. Curtis discussed the monies set aside for Youth and stated that he still wants it understood that the monies in the budget II/ are not automatically spend for youth that the committee still has to present what they want funded and will have to be approved by the Board. The Board felt that all the necessary changes have been made to the budget , so therefore Mr . Weatherby moved, seconded by Mrs . - . ,. iy ,•i.;.V>.r tee!'' •�.�..:i".� `�niyt.....iH � ! • . . .. � . IF . ..1'I:'+.(.. :v' fit.-4� . ,t .,: ..j i3 ice . re,� a. 'k 4pr'I Y a ill et •Town of Ulysses 2 SBM - Budget 11-17-92 Stover the following RESOLVED, to approve the preliminary budget as modified tonight with the two changes in A1330. 01 to $2750 and A1330 .04 to $500 . Adopted 1993 Budget . • Mr . Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye I/ 1; Mr. curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted Mr. Hogan reported that he had called the Association of Towns with the question the Board had on the benefits and/or salary for the Justice department . He said that the Association said that the Board does have latitude to set salaries and benefits different . He asked for this to be put in writing and the Association said they would send something. Mrs. Stover asked the Board what they were going to do about recycling director. Mrs . Georgia stated that only one letter of intent had been received and that was from Calvin Bailey. Mrs . Stover stated that she had talked with Calvin and he is interested. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint Calvin Bailey to the position of Recycling Supervisor staring 11-28-92 pending Mrs . Stover's interview with him. ® ', Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye • • Adopted It was suggested that Mr. Hogan write a letter of thanks to Marion the prior recycling supervisor. He will do so. Also it was suggested that a letter be written to the Village and the Fair Assoc. of the new appointment. • The board discussed the distribution of the salary for Receiver • of Taxes . It has been done wrong the last couple of years and been distributed in is entirety leaving no pay left when the job has to be done by someone else. • Mr. Hogan suggested that the yearly pay be divided up for six (6) months , but that a sum be held and paid at the end of the year. It was suggested that $200 be held for the end of December when the job is completed. • A discussion followed in an appointment to the 1993 tax year. Mr . Reitz moved to appoint Marsha Georgia for the tax year 1993 for a salary of $2750 . Seconded by Mr . Curtis . Mr. Reitz . amended his resolution to include the following; and $250 to be given when the tax roll is turned over to the County and the County and Town Board feels it is complete, balanced and the roll is satisfied and a good job has been done. Mr. Hogan stated that he was against the $250 being there for • .' , •1- . ., .1 . :;e.. ... r;' ',,in:".7'"'.".:. .1F `i ., . .f' Town of Ulysses 3 SBM - Budget ■ 11-17-92 Mrs. Georgia that he only wants that paid if someone from the outside does the job. That he would be willing to pay $3000 for any one other than Mrs . Georgia. Mr. Reitz stated that was not why $250 had been put into the contractual line of the budget . Mrs . Stover agreed with Mr. Reitz but Mr . Curtis agreed with Mr. Hogan. Mr. Weatherby stated no opinion. Discussion ensued. Mr. Curtis withdrew his second to the motion. Discussion ensued . again. Mrs. Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint Marsha L. Georgia • to receiver of taxes for 1993 at a salary of $2750 and if the County and Town Board is satisfied the $250 from contractual be paid at _ the end of the year. Mr. Hogan nay Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye • Mr. Curtis nay . Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. Mrs . Stover asked about letters received for interested applicants for the Planning Board. Mrs . Georgia stated that two letters had been received, Mr. Laurie and Mr. Hoffmire. The Board decided to interview at 6: 30 p.m. before the Regular Board meeting on December 7th. . Hearing no further business Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr . Weatherby for adjournment. Unanimously approved. • Meeting adjourned 9:00 p.m. ., II/ fit ♦.,. . . .lc -1r:: in l" ) R � `ktt ,t .t.tf l�. 4. TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING TRUMANSBURG VILLAGE HALL NOVEMBER 19, 1992 PRESENT: Chairman, David Tyler; Planning Board Members : Budd Stover, Krys Cail , Dan Smith: Code Enforcement Officer, Alex Rachunt Secretary: Roxanne Smith. A number of members of the public were also present. Chairman David Tyler called the meeting to order: at 7:40 P.M. Alex Rachun inquired about the. Town receiving any applications for the available Planning Board Member position. Dave said several had been received . Dave mentioned that two sets of minutes distributed at the last meeting had yet to be approved. The discussions centered on the site plan for the Auble project. Dan Smith made a mo- tion to approve the minutes of Oct. 5, 1992. Krys Cail seconded . The minutes of Oct. 5th were approved. In the minutes of Oct. 15th a correction was made to the 4th sentence in the 4th para- graph. The word "a" was deleted. The sentence should read "Since they don' t have specific tenants lined up, they have just given a facade as to what it might look like" . Dave also corrected the spelling of George Schlecht ' s name for the record. The motion was made to approve the minutes. The minutes of Oct. 15th were approved. The minutes from the Nov. 12th meeting were also reviewed. The motion to approve was made by Dan Smith, seconded by Krys Cail . The minutes of Nov. l2th were approved. • Discussion ensued from where members had left off from their joint meeting with the Town Board on Oct. 19th. Dave Tyler stated that three things happened: 1 . A motion was entertained to put the same resolution that was put before us in July for the approval of the PUD minus item #6. Item #6 states "This PUD remains the American Legion. Upon sale or closure, this would revert back to residential zone or any, other permitted use. Any change of hands, it comes back with new proposal . " We have been advised by counsel that item #6 is not permissable. 2 . When this was put to a vote minus #6 it did not carry. It • was defeated 4 to 1 . 3. The Town Board asked the Planning Board to reconsider the PUD. It was pointed out that there is nothing in the town zoning ordinance that provides for a location for a fra- ternal, social organization or for that matter a number of other things. The questions were raised: Should that be accomodated and if so how? A motion was made to recommend that the Town Board consider passing a resolution to consider placing such a use in the zoning ordinance. There was discussion about the use of a special permit in this sit- uation, and about Dave Tyler and Bill Hogan meeting with the town attorney about the definition of a fraternal/ • 'if, s 't t. t i: . �, �Y...°. -.rF l' i � '' '. .. rl• . 4 i. f.._ r . .r . jam' r ," social order. The town attorney said basically the definition is whatever you want to make it. Not-For- Profit is a 'very broad classification. Dave opened discussion with the question of possibly reconsid- ering the proposal in July with some different language for item #6. After much discussion Dan made thQQ Jo Lion that states: This PUD is granted exclusively for Veterang, Fraternal, Soc4al or Sororal organizations which are deemed as assets to the commun- ity at large. Krys seconded the motion. Dave stated that we _ now have a new #6 condition on the floor. A motion was made to include the new #6 condition into the plan, all were in favor, the motion passed. The discussion continued . The size of the area subject to the amfA'endment is 6. 76 acres, with one owner. The area sur- rounding the site is zoned as Residential. Specific criteria were questioned. It was decided that the sole owner would be the benefactor, not the neighbors . Continuing with the evalu- ation the question was raised as to how this would fit into a • plan the town has. Dave stated that the zoning map really doesn ' t provide for this situation. If a PUD nearby already existed than an obvious direction would be indicated. Dan asked what the average size of a PUD for our community was . Alex stated that 3 acres was considered minimum so this would still be considered small. The question was asked whether this proposal fit into any comprehensive town development plan. The concerted answer was- No. After the criteria were looked at the issue was tabled. It was decided not to. vote until there were more members present and they were able to explore the issue and possibly consider other options. Through discussion with the audience it was stated that a PUD is an amendment to the zoning law. If specific criteria from the Town Counsel were met the zoning law could be suf- ficiently challenged. After hearing questions/comments from the audience the Board discussed the need for changes in the zoning laws. It is apparent that there needs to be different grades within each of the Residential versus Commercial classifications. Whether to do it piecemeal (slowly evolving) or do an overview, it ultimately has to be addressed. The American Legion as a cat- - egory does not exist. "This is a forgotten category. We are not manipulating an existing category. " stated Alex. It was omitted because the drafters may have felt that it fell into one of the existing categories. This should have been shoe- horned in back in 1978 . Dave said we all agree that it needs to be put in, and that he had no problem with it being placed in the Commercial category. Krys felt that the businesses and professional offices are inappropriately placed. She would like to see a new district created and that this might be an opportune time to do this. Dave thought a map would have to be re-worked and it was a fairly ambitious project . Alex stated that there are 142 multi-units (accessory permit- lit Of ted uses) in the Town of Ulysses (having 3 or more units in 1 house) , 35 public assembly places and 50 some odd commer- cial spaces . Krys asked if there was a different direction that could be taken. • Dave mentioned that at the Joint/Town meeting the special permit approach was suggested. Krys said that it would help them out • in this situation but if there were slot of development in the future it could be cumbersome. Alex felt that our Township lends itself to the special permit. It' s up front with both the developer and the Town, it ' s a very clear approach as you make the criteria for it. The Town has 3 special per- mite in existence now (for a billboard, a junkyard and a green- house) . Dave summerized thAtoothe�Planningi.BBpar 1 arrived at 3 dif- •� ferent options. One: P rg� y infl condition #6 . Two: creating a new category of use:`'��`thF :" creating a special permit category within existing districts. Dan stated that he had one other issue to address and that was in regarding the Board' s ability to meet a quorum. Dan made a motion to recommend to the Town Board to send the existing letter regarding attendance out again. (The letter states the number of absences allowed before membership is terminated. ) Budd seconded it. The Motion passed with all in favor. The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, December 3, 1992 • at 7 :30. The meeting will take place in the Village Hall. Dave entertained the motion to adjourn. All were in favor, • the meeting adjourned at 9: 10 P.M. • : r • • • • ele far • TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING 'I'RUMANSBURG VILLAGE HALL DECEMBER 3, 1992 PRESENT: Chairman, David Tyler; Planning Board Members : �..;j. Krys Cail, Geraldine Keil , Budd Stover, Dan Smith, Richard Garner; Secretary: Roxanne Smith. Also present were people from the general public. Chairman David Tyler called the meeting}to order at 7 :40 P.M. The minutes form November 19, 1992 had yet to be approved . On page 2, first paragraph the second sentence should say: "After much discussion Dan made the motion that states : This PUD is granted exclusively for Veterans , Social( Fra- ternal or Sororal organizations which are deemed as assets to the community at large. " Krys questioned the number:;of multi-units ( 142) listed at the bottom of page 2. It was decided that Alex Rachun would be asked if that number was correct at the next meeting. On page 3 the beginning of the second paragraph should say: Dave summerized that the Planning Board had arrived at three different options to present to the Town Board. One: The rewritten condition #6. David asked for a motion to approve the minutes; Krys moved and Dan seconded . The minutes of November 19, 1992 were approved as corrected. ' The Board was asked by David to quickly review the July 7, 1992 proposal with the thirteen conditions. This document will now be known as the December 3, 1992 Proposal as there has been a change to condition #6. Dan made the motion to move the document on the table for discussion. Gerri sec- onded the motion. Discussion followed . Advice from counsel has changed perceptions. Zoning can not be changed to suit • the particular instance of the American Legion. Spot zoning is illegal . Krys stated that it was apparent that the Board was having some procedural problems and that the public was owed a decision by the end of the meeting. The public, Town Board, Alex etc. needs some standards as to how it will be done in the future. The .Chairman called the question on the motion as to the December 3, 1992 Proposal. The vote was as follows: Dan Smith-yes, Geraldine Keil-yes, Krys Cail-no, Budd Stover-yes , Richard Garner-no, David Tyler-no. The proposal failed due to lack of majority. Krys made the suggestion of a revised Resident District . Looking at improving the zoning ordinance the SECTION 1 (RESIDENCE DISTRICTS) "a" would be revised to read a single or 2 family dwelling (as opposed to carte blanche dwelling) ; "f through 1" would be deleted from this section; "m through p" would remain. • �..... ii.� {.), v11��:i.4,^'� �. . . .a, . . .. . . ..a a1,. .,i•:� 1 .. '�;` �. � -. 1J1 ,•h ,1 • I., '• r Yom/ s The new SECTION 2 could be called MULTI/FAMILY RESIDENCE/LOW IMPACT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. "f through 1" would be placed in this section. "q" (relating to the kennel) would be there also. The new condition #6 from the December 3 , 1993 Proposal "Veterans, Social, Fraternal or Sororal organizations which • are deemed as assets to the community at large" would be "r" . Daycare centers could also fit into this section. The original SECTION 2 (ACCESSORY PERMITTED USES IN RESIDENCE DISTRICTS) would then become SECTION 3. Essentially the sections would be bumped to allow for this new addition. David stated that Krys ' s suggestion was excellent and that the next step would be to find where this would fit on the •• map. He continued by saying the Planning Board is half way there anyway. The RESIDENTIAL needs a second tier. The B2 is kind of in limbo. Gerri stated that before the Planning Board got going on this project she would like to discuss it with the . Town Board, and would like the rewriting of the ordinance as • • an assignment from them. Otherwise the Planning Board could be spinning their wheels. • • Richard stated that everyone agrees that the American Legion provides a valuable function to this community. We 've spent months on this; came up with a PUD which counsel said is not an answer. This new idea is great but will involve several more months. Meanwhile the American Legion waits, calling on the administration and politics of the day. Krys said Richard ' s point is well taken. Part of the reason we are seeing requests for PUDs in residential areas instead of less controversial business districts is because we have` dysfunc- tional commercial district. There is no water. This is a legitimate thing that the Planning Board should be concerned about. It is our business to make this observation. Dave mentioned that we could circumvent this if we said that Veterans,Social, Fraternal or Sororal organizations fell into the Business District without question. But where is there a Business pistrict that is usable for this applicant? + Dave asked if the Board wanted to do anything with option 3 . (Creating a special permit category within existing districts. ) He would like to know what a special permit is going to en- tail . The Master Plan would have to be accelerated . There would have to be some definition of R2. Then there would have to be a logical extension of the zoning. It would have to be a progressive thing from least intense to more intense. - Phil Colvin (audience participant) stated that it was impor- tant to keep in mind that even if a specific R2 site was des- -: ignated it might not be affordable property to an organization such as the American Legion in this unique circumstance. Not • • everyone has the means, especially if the sky' s the limit on what the owners could charge. The real issue if this R2 be- • • • . t 4,1'(r 't ) : t) a1;,y a kL ' 1.•A . jx}1.. 4 1.0 .u] . 0 t � �. (4) comes fact is where would it be located stated Dave . Del Borden (audience) said that if specific areas were being looked at that the owners would like to be contacted. Krys responded that it is illegal to notify specific individuals . A public hearing would have to take place. Otherwise it could be interpreted that the Planning Board may be in col- lusion with those individuals. Another audience partici- pant stated that the actions of the Village created this situation . It pits the residents against the American Legion. It doesn ' t make sense. If anc.outside organizatiol. wanted to build it would be an easy decision. It was stated that Jim Seafuse of the Shur-Save even offered to pay to have the water put there. It ' s as if the Village is saying • we don ' t want to accommodate them. It is time to say take care of your own ! • _ In the interim the Village came to the Town Board and said we are having difficulty paying for our water and sewer. We ' ll now consider a water district in the Town of Ulysses said Dan. Several members suggested it may be time to force the issue . Under the auspices of the American Legion a functional area for usage could be created. There are very few land owners across from the Fair grounds and' they have property they can not sell for commercial use now. The property owner •• may not get the highest price for their land but they will have water brought up to their property line making the rest of the property valuable. Hopefully this creates a win/win situation said Krys. Then we have a functional water dis- trict with more than one owner, and we' ll begin to get out of this gridlock. The Planning Board recognizes that the American Legion has incurred ai•1•bt :of expenses dealing with the PUD. The property owner already had the survey and well expenses when the Plan- ® ning Board became involved. It did incur the expense of the architects plan for the Planning Board presentation. Dave summarized that at the very least we can say in our minutes that the revised proposal was defeated 3 to 3 . Those who voted against it felt it did not meet the criteria legally for a development district and was an invitation to litigation to the Town' s detriment. Those who voted for it • felt that because the American Legion had put allot of effort in it, it should at least go to the Town Board to decide. ' Gerri felt that this is a real indication of how difficult this decision is to make, how incomplete the zoning ordinance • is and how controversial this issue is. Krys mentioned part of the reason that the land mass for the • II/ ., t . pia • 010 is. American Legion proposal was so large was because of the need for a fire pond due to lack of utilities on Rt. 227. If the area had utilities the land may be more expensive, but they would not need as much of it. • • Richard indicated that it would be prudent to establish some sort of deadline. Someone needs to resolve this. Phil (the Commander) spoke up that meanwhile in the interim the Ameri- can Legion needs to decide whether to invest in a handicap ramp ($2 ,000.00) the roof is leaking, should they spend an- - other $10,000. 00 on that. The Legion will have no money left by the time this is resolved. Dave indicated that this needed to be noted in the minutes. Dave inquired whether anyone would like to entertain a motion • to present these minutes to the Town Board. Gerri made the motion to present the minutes to the Town Board as the decision of the Planning Board on the American Legion application. Dan seconded it, there was nc discussion, all were in favor, motion passed. • Dave encouraged members of the public to consider applying • for the available position on the Town Planning Board. He stressed that community input is needed and personal know- ledge is important . Krys made the motion to adjourn. All were in favor.• ing 'adjourned at 9: 18 P.M. • • • • 1 'ts ,t i ` :: •:1:.(•b.t. l t' a.'ad.' w,i '.1: ''4 c_'i "11:5 t *,,1•. v'•,i ` .�r 'J. C•x;.�.,.y + L� 1A,• . tu.:..y t is 'ry Ui , r TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR BOARD MEETING December 7 , 1992 i PRESENT4' ' Suporvisor William P. Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis, Robert Weatherby; Town Clerk Marsha L. Georgia; ' 'Highway Superintendent James ' ' ' , Meeker; Bookkeeper Jeanne Vanderbilt;' ' ' ' " Building/Zoning Inspector Alex Rachun. Others Preoent: Attorney Guy Krogh, FreePress Reporter, Ruth' Kahn and two other residents. Super'vi'sor' Hogan called the meeting to order at 7 :55 p.:a`.' and led those assembled in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr . Hogan' entertained a motion to approve previously distributed minutes of November 2 Regular Board Meeting, November 10 Special Board Meeting and November 17 Special Board Meeting. Mr. Reitz moved seconded by Mrs. Stover for the approval of these minutes. Mr. Hogan aye , Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye . Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby ' ' aye Adopted . .a , I .. i ' . . Report - Fire Department absent Report - Representative County . Mr. James Mason was absent due to another meeting. ' CLAIMS ' ` Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve claims 413 through 462 in the amount of $23, 642 .86, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. - . Mr. Curtis asked where the` Justice department fund stood. They keep. spending and the Board keeps transferring monies for the ove expended fund, ' sotething 'wrong •with this. Ben felt that the . department needed to be talked to with regards to this Me. ' Hogan had not spoken' tot them.' Mr. Hogan pointed out that last year was the first to have the courts combined (Village & Town) and the Town Board in trial and error did not know what the . • expenses may, be. _ Mrs. Georgia pointed out that the Justice Department';had 'r''e4uested *about the amount of money that has been spent for the year but the Board had reduced this figure down when they did the budget: ' t Mr. Rachun pointed out that he had the same problem with the Fire Inspector' budgit. ' Untilt the work is actually done it is hard to know ghat is_ to. be; spent. It'would be easy if you could look into the 'future. ,ti :I ': 1 III Mr. Hogan' 'ointed` out that the expenses were legitimate. Mr. Curtis' felt' thit the vouchers for this month should be held until January: ' Instead of going further over budget. Issas lagaliale ., n;.c ., t. C+:Y. - ,l .. ,.T;:,ate : . ....;'�+.i••: 31 Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting December 7 , 1992 Mrs . Vanderbilt said this was possible, although we normally pay this years expenses in , from this year's budget . Mrs . Stover asked what had been transferred into that account (A1110 .04) thus far this year. Mr. Reitz stated that account A1110.04 started out in 1992 budget as $3200 . Then there was a transfer that brought it up to $4600 and another one that brought it up to $5400. Mrs.. Vanderbilt reported that of that $5400 there was around $265 remaining. • • Mr. Curtis pointed out that claims is 425,426,419,427 , and 428 were expenses towards this account and suggested to hold the reimbursement to Justice Rector in the amount of $108. 90 until January. Mr. Reitz moved to amend the resolution to hold out claim #427 in the amount of $78.50 to LooseLeaf for a total of $23564.36. This was seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Curtis asked about the claim for Ulysses Youth in the amount of $3344. It was explained that this is a quarterly payment and is in the budget . He also questioned the expense of the attorney and felt the Town should be able to bill back some of this expense. No further questions or comments on the claims the Board voted as follows; Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted SUPERVISORS FINANCIAL STATEMENT Hr. Hogan read the report (see attached) . Mrs. Vanderbilt pointed out that she had re-figured the tax rates and has: corrected the last page of the 1993 budget . This is dui ' to some changes from the County of assessed values. HEARING OF INDIVIDUALS/DELEGATIONS Attorney Guy Krogh, Mr. Aubles attorney spoke about a water and sewer district which was addressed about a year ago. Essentially Mr. Auble is in a situation now that he has a lot of clients knocking on the door. He made application to the Village for a water and sewer permit which was turned down. The latest study indicates that the Village is running under their full capacity with both their water and sewer. All studies I have seen indicate the Village wants to expand their facilities in order to receive Grant monies. The parcel we are concerned with, particularly, but the Village going into the Town in general to expand these services . Yet it appears noone is getting these permits to use water and sewer. That is, except for the golf course, and the doctors who are moving over the Seneca County line, and a children's home that is over the Seneca County line. . . they are getting water there, and I guess they want to put water in Jacksonville, but they don' t want to give it to the Town. We have a bit of a problem with that as they have the excess capacity, they have submitted plans to the State and ',1 Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting December 7 , 1992 Federal Government to provide water to the Town, but they won't ' give it to us. Our concern is that essentially what the Village • is doing is zoning the Town by withholding essential services. That isn't a new or novel concept . Working with other ' municipalities thin happens when one municipality doesn't like what another is doing they withhold services . Our alternative is to go through the County and put in a septic system. Granted, considering the size of this commercial zone, a good part of that would have to be leach field. It is not a good way to go. Don' t want that amount of space converted to that purpose. Only real efficient way to utilize that property with any type of commercial venture is to utilize Village water and sewer. You can't get it. What our hope• is, they have the excess capacity and have shown they have it by indicating they will go to Jacksonville and the golf course. . .we are looking to see if the Town would be ' interested in working with us to obtain either water and sewer just for us, to be- selfish, but also a water and sewer district. Obtaining: water and sewer, essential services, by contract with ' the provider. Last time we discussed this the Village and Town of Lansing has such an arrangement; if you go throughout the e County that is a very common way of doing it; the Town defines the areas that are in need of improved services, of regulated water, of having sewer lines. We go to' the Village an''d say here is District No. 1, we would like water here. . .and- you drain VP a contract with the Village to supply water and sewer to that area. In the past we have offered to draw up all of the necessary ' agreements at no expense to the Town. You may want y9ur` Town' Attorney take a look at . that and if it's agreeable by law, we would be willing to pick up that expense. ' IllOne thing that the Village has told us . . . first you to back to "we don't have the sewer capacity, or capacity in our water system", once those arguments fell by the wayside by the raw numbers , now they have a water pressure problem. If you will recall , back during the annexation process, about a� year and a half , two years : ' ago, we developed a plan which specifically dedicated a parcel of land for a water tower. According to every engineer we have talked to, and granted that's only two, that would solve the water pressure problem assuming that you either have it high enough or it 's a larger tank. At one point we were no longer . willing to do this, we offered to build the water tower at our expense, for the Village, if they would give us the sewer and water. We won't do that simply because the cost of doing that is incredible right now. A good water tower runs in the area of two hundred thousand dollars and the •insurance for something that is privately built is ridiculous. • What we are looking for is 'the Town's 'help either in having your input as to what would be a successful or possibly successful way to approach the Village 'other than giving them $250 . and an application and having them say No. Ultimately utilizing or having the Town look into a water 'and sewer district . I would be more than happy to supply you with outlines or sample • documentation that have been used successfully. or even so far as to somehow obtain a letter of commitment or letter of consent III �f=o'm the Village. We are in a situation where we do have the zoning and the plat plane are being worked on, but until we have water and sewer there is obviously no point in submitting site plans. Even if it could get approved without 'water and sewer it would be a little ,_ nonsensical if you can't get a tenant to move in. Nobody is going to move in without water and sewer because no matter what you have you can' t get a CO without water and sewer. t► ;.f. .d. ) .3, .f• .,. .+! -.1 ;'' .. a'- '}•1�' ,.. ,„SF'. tireg Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting December 7 , 1992 We are at an impasse and what I wanted to do was take a few • minutes to tell the Town where we are in terms of trying to obtain an application, gave the Village time to review the application and it was turned down. Our next step is to come to you folks and see if you want to learn more about water or sewer districts , what the advantages are,, disadvantages, give you an idea of what has cost in the past to set some of these things up • and what rights and privileges that accord to you and most j'. important , I think, is to give you real control over your own zoning , Now I know there have been joint meetings to formulate some kind of comprehensive plan for the area in general , don't know how far that has gone, but if the Village's supply of water and sewer is selectively granted. I tend to feel that Bill Auble was turned down because he is Bill . He's a controversial character who speaks his mind and he's not afraid to scream, stamp and yell when the time comes and that may have something to do with it too, I don't know. But supplying water and sewer should not be about who, what it should be about is the use of the land and that 's what we are concerned with, that 's what you guys are concerned with, that's why as opposed to saying yes or no you created a separate zone, you addressed the separation because there are more types of businesses; not just a B zone; there's a B1, a B2 and you could go on forever. What would it be- that you would want in terms of information as • to water. and sewer districts or information as to what we intend to do with the parcel . We have a lot of drawings, even drawings for even unrelated projects. Bill is still very much set on going with the project here; I have advised him that I 'm not sure that it's feasible; from a business perspective it 's not just Bill 's time and money. . .he wants to do it, that's why I 'm here. What I would ask is, and maybe it's something that you would have to discuss among yourselves in executive session; but we .would like some feedback as to what it is you would like, what information; what direction you think we could go, and if you feel it 's not your place to say so, that's fine also. Just want to let you know where we. were. Mr. Curtis said to correct the record a little bit, you talk about the Village having capacity and awarded water uses except Bill 's project and included in that is Jacksonville, by that assume you mean the recent ARC Grant application and the NYS Jobs " Bond Act Application the Town submitted with the Village. Think it worth noting that the basis for that cooperation was that the Town was not just asking the Village for water. We were suggesting that they team up with us and we would help supply the second well so that they would have the capacity and that they would have back-up insurance for their water supply in the Village, which is something that they need. We were officially going to the Village and saying this, is something that is in both our interests and the capacity was something we would have had to work with. Thought maybe from your point of view maybe going to the Village and giving them a deal., that they would have some advantages from, might work. They were certainly receptive to the Town. Mr. Krogh said that is probably a good suggestion. We can go back and rediscuss it; a water tower, perhaps a reservoir. The • last thing that you said is very critical . . .we really have worked with the Village a lot, we've coordinated with them, had joint meetings with them, been around the block with them for about eleven years . Think the key is that you were able to work with them as the Ulysses Town Board, able to generate some cooperation. Mr. Curtis said you probably recognize over the years it hasn't always been the happiest , most cooperative relationship between Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting • December 7 , 1992 . the Town and Village. What I 'm trying to say is where there was some common ground, where there were benefits to both sides, all I can say is the Village didn 't slam the door on ua. Never took • that project to fruition, I don' t know how it would have gone. c. Mr. Reitz said he was at the meeting at the Village when the application was turned down. The reason was, as stated in the minutes, was that they didn't have enough information about water • quantity wanted. Think that ties in with the sewer needs also. • They denied it for lack of information. Mr. Hogan said that 'was stated at our joint meeting with the Village. Reason the request was denied was that the application was incomplete. Think you will need to make it attractive somehow for the Village to do this . I feel it 's only reasonable .: that we sit down and talk it over with them. We wouldn't shut the door to any request for negotiating a water district , I don' t feel I would, but can't speak for everybody here. . Mr. Reitz said that typically if you are within 500 ' of another municipality you don't have to form a water district to go through that legal scenario. • Mr.: said' our general concern is that our information is different than what the minutes reflect . Maybe that's a good - suggestion, to go back again and say we will dedicate land for a water tower, assist with the cost or whatever, that 's an ' - alternative we have. Mr. Curtis said another point he would like to make is that you said you thought the Village had turned down the Auble project ,. • because of Bill . When we were + considering the B2 and the Auble project we asked in very clear terms what the source of the water Ill would be: Through the BEQR process, through the hearings , you responded very definitely that you were going to have wells. Just a few minutes ago you sat here and described how there was no way to develop a parcel like that with well and septic. I • have no problem dealing with Bill Auble, but I have a real ' problem with that and I think that may be something you need to • consider. Mr. Krogh said I see what you are getting at . When the annexation process discontinued and we went straight through the Town for zoning, our only option at that time was wells and septics and' we had a plan drawn for wells and septics . The feedback that we have gotten from an urban planner that we have • on board is,. if you are- going to do a commercial project , the size of the leach system for the septic system would have to be "' • very big. Not only could it make the project less commercially • viable; there's a limited amount of space, you have to allocate a • large number of space to roadways, parking, etc . , that- your actual coverage on resale space diminishes . You will need a very large area for a leach field. . .besides the obvious effects a leach field will have on the- surrounding territory. . . it's ' 1. definitely preferable to have Village sewer and water. We have plans for both. We would rather go with the Village. We think it would make for a nicer project, have more space to spread things out . That was the advice we received. If there's' a - problem with using one over the other, let us know. My feeling is that one is preferable. One is probably more sanitary, although you are entitled to use either/or, depending upon where you live. But if there is a problem with us selecting one or the other; if the Board would rather have the septic and private wells dug as opposed to using municipal water and sewer, just let • us know. As you 'know there is already a water meter that runs right across that property, think there is a meter on RT 96 . 'a;i P:if.:..:Tt:. •'14i;p ' ' '— ,.. . , '.t;.f .i .i:_..'Y". E.: e,. '�, '�.; vw4 ^:? 1. Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting December 7 , 1992 • Mr. Rachun said that in fairness to the Board, targeting Bill is not the issue here (talking about the Village Board) . .A similar request came in for Jim Seafuses' Shursave. He was willing to :. pay construction coats to extend the line. He was denied by the Village. There wasn' t anything to benefit the Village. You may have something to offer. Mr. Krogh asked if the Board knew what the Village was looking for to increase their capacity. . . or is that something that should be discussed with Pete. Mr. Hogan suggested talking to Pete. Have talked with them about putting in another pump; and then supplying Jacksonville with water. Mr. Reitz said the Village's real need is a second well . Mr. Hogan said he had talked with the Association of Towns to find out what our obligation was as far as a request for, a water district and was told that we really don' t have any legal obligations for a water district. Can handle it like any other request. . .be fair and try to determine what value this would have to the community. Mr. Krogh said likewise I don't think the Village has a legal obligation to supply water outside the Village. More or leas,: what you are saying, is go back to the Village, work something out that is beneficial to both parties and see where it goes, and despite all good efforts you can't get anywhere, you would consider a district. . . you would listen but you are not • • necessarily going to make a decision one way or the other. Is that a fair assessment?- • Mr. Hogan said we would listen. Mr. Krogh said by listening you wouldn' t be committing yourselves one way or the other. Is that a fair summary? Mr. Hogan said obviously we'd have to have a source, we can' t sit down and discuss something without a source. But we would sit down and discuss it if a suitable source could be found. • No further discussion took place. OLD BUSINESS Vacancies Planning Board Mr. Hogan stated that the Board had interviewed several interested people for the Planning Board. They will give Mr. Weatherby an opportunity to review and/or contact the first two interviewed that he missed and hold off appointing until January. There is also one of the members terms up the last of December. Street Lighting - Shur Save . Mr. Hogan stated that he hadcsigned three copies of the contracts our attorney had drawn up and one was filed with the County Clerk with the deed the other .want to Mr. Seafuse and the other is here on file. Our attorney forwarded this agreement on to NYSEG and it is :in ,their hands now. Did not know a date of insulation of the lights. American Legion via Planning Board Mr. Tyler, Chairman of the Planning Board phoned Mr. Hogan and reported that the Planning Board is leaning towards different recommendations for the American. Legion that a PUD. They hope to have this :.o the Town Board before the end of the year. Request to DOT .�.i.fi••i,•. ;.l ' 't 1 :i'ivCi 1.. _ .:}. 'r+i.. 'bpi . . . 1 ,`,. ".J•} ':f � i ..{t °Y 'It))•. (.1 .� i"i1. , '• •YY)1^••��p. .1.••tIl'Y 15 ..T...'y1,'ilr.''.ti:4i ar I., 47110 Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board Westing December 7, 1992 Mr. Reitz had previously +,uggested that Mr. Hogan contact DOT before the bridge on Rt 96 is redone and request that provisions • for water and sewer lines be taken care of at the time of the new bridge. Mr. Hogan has contacted DOT and asked if ' this was possible and how much it would cost . Mr. Ed Odula has gotten back to Mr. , Hogan and stated that it is possible and gave an estimate of $1750. The Board discussed if they wanted to spend this money seeing that water/sewer is most likely far into the ' future. Mr. Hogan will call tomorrow and find out more information and see if this cost can be shared. Insurance Coverage Justice Mr. Curtis asked if Mr. Hogan had called Association of Towns on anopilbn if the Town could provide health insurance to the elected Justice Rector. Mr. Hogan said he had called but that the opinion that was sent in writing was not about health insurance but was about retirement . He stated that he had called again and he has not received anything as of yet. They did say that the Board has the latitude to give benefits Are they want. • Letter from Town of Drvden re Election Expenses Mrs . Stover asked if we had heard anything more about the Town of Dryden's letter stating that they felt the expenses passed on -• from the County to the Towns for the expense of elections is illegal. Mr. Reitz stated that he had talked to the Board of Elections Commissioners and they say along with the County Attorney that this is a legitimate claim. If anyone feels different it would have to be settled in court. N:eEuBISs 1.. REPORTS Town Clerk • Mrs. Georgia reported that the fees for the month of November were $2774. 50 of which $1269. 28 was turned over to the Supeivisor along with the monthly report. Mrs. Georgia stated that she and Mr. Rachun had met with Jeanne Barret from County Planning and she had furnished the information to update the Zoning map. The map now shows 11 insets and there should be 26. This is the PUD's and the Business' Dietricts, 81 and B2 that are not on the present map. Highway Superintendent Mr. Meeker reported that they had hauled dirt for the Town of Enfield, are hauling stone for shoulders for the Town, prepared the trucks for winter and are ready for the bad weather to' come. Mr. Meeker requested a kesolution to except a low bid for the fuel tanks. Lori bid is from Cortland Pump and Equipment . He has not decided if he will go with above ground tanks or below. There is very little difference in price. Bids from three places attached. Mr. Hogan moved to authorise Mr. Meeker to deal with Cortland Pump and Equipment for fuel tanks, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan aye sit Town of Ulysses 8 Regular Town Board Meeting December 7 , 1992 Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye . Mr. Curtis aye •, Mr. Weatherby aye • Adopted. . • Mr. Meeker requested a resolution from the Board requesting the •. speed . limit be reduced for the detour when the bridge is being repaired on RT96. Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz the following; RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses hereby request the t. Department of Transportation, 4. pursuant to Section 1622 .1 of the Vehicle and Traffic Law, to - establish a lower maximum speed at which vehicles may proceed ,on: • Taughannock Par Rd./C.R. 143A between RT 96 and Jacksonville Rd./ C.R. 143. Also Jacksonville and Falls Rd./C.R. 143, between Cemetery Rd. and RT 96 . at Jacksonville. FURTHER RESOLVED that the Board suggest 40-45 MPH • throughout the life of the detour for RT 96 bridge replacement project. We would also like • a STOP sign for south-bound traffic at . the intersection of Cemetery Rd. and Falls Rd./C.R. 143 . • FURTHER RESOLVED upon request of the notice that the regulation herein requested has been established, III i the State of New York will provide, install and maintain signs in accordance with the Vehicle and • Traffic Law and conforming to Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices of the Department of , Transportation. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye - Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. • Mrs. Georgia stated that she had asked Mr. Meeker to come up to the Town Hall and remove the badly worn and ripped flag. She has had several complaints about this and it is a disgrace to the .. Town to have the Flag in this shape. Mr. Hogan stated that he had called the American Legion and he can purchase a flag there. • He will do so and than the highway department will install it. • Zoning/Buildina Report • Mr. Rachun reported that four permits had been issued, one new start, one permit for a four unit apartment complex and several • additions/renovations. He reported that the budget for fire inspections, had run out and that all of the inspections had not • been done. He did not realize this when preparing the 1993 budget estimates. He stated that Mr. Austic had told him that after review of the assessment rolls that there are 148 multi dwellings, 54 public assembly and that about half have been inspected. • Board Members till Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Town Board Meeting December 7 , 1992 Mr. Reitz reported that the Joint Youth will be meeting on December 16th to review the budget from the Town. They would • like to report to the Town Board at the January meeting. Mr. Curtis asked if it would be possible to have some information before that date. Mr. Reitz said he would provide what he could. Correspon_ dew Mr. Hogan reviewed the following correspondence from the following; TC Advisory - agenda Agenda - County PS NYS Env. Coney. Bruce Wilson - letter Shursave Lighting Teresa Robinson - information on bus to NYC Landfill Rec. News ACC - inf . selling remotes ACC - premium channel Wild NY brochure Health care - TC Health Dept. Thaler/Thaler - office party invitation SPCA - quarterly report Bruce Wilson - letter NYSEG - Shursave Lighting 1991 report - rural resources NYS Env. Cons. - report on runoff Assoc. of Towns - Dues 1993 - NYC Assoc. of Towns Mtg. • Mr. Curtis stated that he would like to attend the Assoc. of Towns Mtg in February. He will look for help to defer cost. Mr. Curtis asked to represent the Town re: Government Access Channel 53. One item they would like to discuss is the franchise agreements with ACC. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to appoint Mr. Curtis as the Representative from the Town of Ulysses for the Government Access Channel , moved by Mrs. Stover, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan aye Mrs. Stover aye • Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Mr. Reitz abstained Mr. Reitz felt he needed more information on this. Mr. Curtis will provide more information. The Board set a meeting for December 29th at 7 :00 P.M. for year end business. Hr. Curtis asked if it would be possible to have a report from the Youth Committee on December 29th because he will not be able to attend the first meeting in January. Mr . Reitz will invited John Rogers the Chairman of the youth Committee. Hearing no further business Mrs. Stover moved to adjourn this meeting to Tuesday December 29th at 7 :00 p.m. Unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned at 10 :30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk December 15 , 1992 William P. Hogan Town Supervisor Town of Ulysses Elm Street Trumansburg, NY 14886 Dear Mr. Hogan : The Planning Board met briefly Friday evening December 11 , 1992 at 7: 20 P.M. to review before transmittal to the Town Board the minutes of its December 3, 1992 decisional meeting on the American Legion PUD application. The min- utes were unanimously approved as prepared on motion by Garner, seconded by Smith by all members of this Board (be- ing all the members present at the December 3rd meeting) . However, it was noted the Planning Board had not form- ' ally entered its motion on the record as required under zoning ordinance Section 5 (b) (4) (c) . On motion duly made by Garner seconded by Cail , the Planning Board con- firmed its disapproval of the American Legion application as a PUD for the reasons set forth in the December 3 , 1992 meeting minutes . Garner - YES Smith - NO Stover - NO Keil - YES Call - YES Tyler - YES • The PUD is therefore returned to the Town Board disap- proved 4-2, on its application as a PUD. If the Town Board accepts this recommendation of the Planning Board and votes to finally disapprove, we understand you wish our Board to consider an amendment to the zoning ordinance to accommo- date a use such as the American Legion. Please advise if the Town Board has a preference of : 1 ) creating a new category in the existing residential or business zones under special permit or 2 ) creating a new R-2 zone along the lines suggested by Cail at the December 3rd meeting, or 3) any other approach under the zoning ordinance (please specify) or 4 no preference at all The meeting was adjourned at 7 : 35 P.M. . This letter constitutes the minutes of said meeting. Respe ul y Submitt , d A. yc r, C irm n Town of Ulysses DAT/rs Planning Board CC: Planning Board Members Alex Rachun (with 12/3/92 meeting minutes ) • ; ' {-.-.1..{ t. .0'' .i ^ '1.1-I r1 .•,:1 • % t i[—1.. n0-o�•.;:r\-• • ✓■.: ,Ili•,0 .'∎ tie ,•, ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING i' SPECIAL BOARD MEETING . f December 29, 1992 PRESENT: Supervisor William P. Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas :la' Reitz , Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis; Bookkeeper Jeanne I. • Vanderbilt; Town Clerk Marsha L. Georgia. u Mr. Hogan called the adjourned meeting to order at 7 :05 p.m. and reported that he had received the mortgage check from the County - and it is $50 ,500 . This puts our anticipated revenue over by approximately $34 thousand. Also has received $2200 in chips monies . The bad news is that the health insurance increase will be around 20%. Mr. Reitz reported that John Rogers will attend the January 1st meeting to report about Youth, The Board looked over the vouchers . A voucher has been received from Tompkins County for the election expenses . It is over $15,000 . Mr. Curtis reviewed an article in Town Topics that ' - states that it is the Comptroller opinion that the -County can not charge this expense to the towns . This voucher will be held and looked into. Jeanne stated that the Board could do the transfers tonight where the accounts are overdrawn but to authorize the Supervisor todo the others because not all the expenses are in for the highway. ' She suggested that the overdrawn accounts, in the General Fund, be handled .by -increasing •the appropriations and also increase the Mortgage tax revenue. This way it will not look so badly mismanaged. The Board agreed to this. - Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis the following resolution; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses increase the General Fund appropriation accounts — • • as follows; A1010 .02 $ 280 . A5010 .04 $ 10. A1410.02 800. A7310 .04 2620 . A1450.01 1400 . A9030 .08 200 . A1450.04 4100 . A9O55.08 44 . A1670.04 1070. A9060 .08 2065. FURTHER RESOLVED to increase General Fund Revenue as follows; • A3005 $60589. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs. Stover aye Adopted. 1,1 2 ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING 12-29-92 Mr. Hogan entertained. a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover as follows; . . RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses transfer monies to Part Town overdrawn accounts as follows; B8020.02 $ 644. B8160.01 164. 88160 .04 36. 89060.08 41. III FURTHER RESOLVED, to transfer from Part Town revenue B1990 a total of $885 to cover overdraws. Mr. Hogan aye - Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. . Stover aye - Mr. Curtis aye .. , Adopted. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr.. Curtis, seconded by Mr. Reitz i they following* RESOLVEED, that the Town Board of the, Town of Ulysses transfer monies to Highway DA ,overdrawn accounts as follows; „ , DA5A30 .01, $10 ,000 . ' DA5142.01 307. FURTHER RESOLVE, that these monies will be,-taken from the following; DA5130 .04 $10,000. DA5140.01 3,307 . . Mr.. Hogan aye, Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs. Stover aye Adopted. Mr. Reitz moved seconded by Mrs. Stover the,. following; RESOLVED, that the Town. Aoard of the Town of Ulysses • transfer $10,135 from DB5110.04 to cover the following overdrawn accounts; DB5110.01 $7912 . DB9010.08 938. . DB9030 .08 605. . DB9060 .08 680 . Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs. Stover aye Adopted. it0 /IV 3 ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING 12-29-92 Mrs. Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses transfer $12 ,000 from A5132 .02 to the GENERAL A CAPITAL RESERVE ACCOUNT. Mr. Hogan aye Mr . Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye Adopted. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses incumber $20,000 from DA5130.02 for the purchase 2 of fuel tank expenses at the Town Barns. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs. Stover aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses 4 transfer $11, 947 from DB5112 .02 and $10 ,000 from DB5110 .04 to HIGHWAY EQUIPMENT RESERVE. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye Mrs . Stover aye 4: Adopted. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mrs . Stover, seconded by Hr. Reitz for the following; RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses authorize Supervisor Hogan to make the necessary budget adjustments to bring the budget into balance. FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Board will approve these adjustments at a Regular Board Meeting. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr. curtis aye Mrs. Stover aye Adopted. Mr. Meeker reported that he was having trouble with his two-way radios at the Highway Barns . He said it was getting to expensive to keep repairing, that the last repair bill was over $600 . New ones would cost around $400 . He will be ordering two new ones . Mrs . Stover reported that the recycling center had been closed one Saturday due to snow and that the new person, Calvin Bailey, was sick and that they had found a replacement and that was John Lawrence. a ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING 12-29-92 Mr. Reitz asked , if Mr, Hogan had looked into replacing the front door. He also stated that the Joint Youth Committee had met and that they talked about amending the by-laws to approve of,:two. additional voting members. Oneto, be .a youth. member and the second to be the municipal representative from the Village or the Town. Mr. Hogan had no problem with this and Mr. Curtis stated that he felt that maybe both representatives be allowed to vote. Mr. Reitz asked if Mr. Hogan had spoke with the Justice • department and that maybe the town should set a policy and/or guidelines on travel expenses . Mr. Curtis expressed. his interest in attending.. theAssociation of • Towns Meeting to be held in New York City in February. He stated that it would . cost . him;a total of $425 and. that he. would ask the Town, of••Ulysses to pay only $200 of this.'expense. and he would get the other part from the Village .of .Lansing.; He said that the tuition is $55, the bus trip down and back is $50, the hotel • • would be $65 a day (he would share) and $125 for meals , for . the three days. , The Board discussed giving direction to the Planning .Board on Pleasant Grove Assoc. RE: B2/PUD. • Hearing no further discussions the Board moved to adjourn the meeting•' , Meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, . .. . Marsha L. 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I ••.. . . . • . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • . . . . . . . . . . . . . .• . . . . . . . • . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . ... . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . , • . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . II ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . • . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .• . .. . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. ,. .. ....,.. , . .. ,..‘ ,.. .... ,. . . , ,, , . . . . . TOWN OF ULYSSEb REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING January 4, 1993 PRESENT: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Zoning/Building Inspector Alex Rachun; Town CIerk Marsha Georgia. Absent : Ben Curtis . others Present : Bill Holtkamp, Ruth Kahn, Dan Watson, Judy Barka'', Judy & Jim Simmons , Free Press reporter, John Rogers, Jesse Miller, Ken Lansing, Beth Jenkins, Linda Heins . • Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7 : 40pm and led those assembled in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. •• Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Stover to approve the minutes of the Regular Board Meeting of December 7 , 1992 . Unanimously approved. Report: Trumansbura Fire Department ' • Absent Report: Representative James Mason Absent Claims • •4) Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims for 1992, #463- 488 , ithholding Claim #475 (election expenses) , in the amount of '� 0 $1 0. 67 . Moved by Mr. Weatherby, seconded by Mr. Reitz . / ,i p6[ Mr. Hogan aye $ i/ : Mrs. Stover aye -: Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Weatherby aye Approved Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims for 1993, #1-11 in the amount of $1139.70 , moved by Mrs. Stover, seconded by Mr. - Weatherby. 4ryo!` Mr. Hogan aye ji i9' fP ,I� Mrs. Stover aye 9ry�e IPA? 14, Mr. Reitz aye 'YY ,I,p��" 'ut Mr. Weatherby aye U ,4 u a Approved Supervisor's Financial Report Mr. Hogan said the annual report is not complete, still waiting for statements . Hearing of Delegations and Individuals Jim and Judy Simmons spoke regarding the detour when the bridge on RT 96 is being repaired. Expressed concern for safety on Taughannock Park Road. Hidden driveways; bad curves; steep hill onto a narrow bridge. Have been circulating a petition and will submit that soon. Un`. it. : Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting . January 4 , 1993 Mr . Hogan said we can also pass along our comments; have been � ``` offering input ; bottom line is that the State will do what they wish to do. Mr. Reitz said it will be a major impact ; school buses , emergency vehicles . Have discussed the speed limit ; h perhaps it will be reduced to 30mph. Bill Itoltkamc said he is hoping to develop the Cayuga Inn property and has talked to the Health Dept . about water and septic. Proposes to put in three building units; one duplex and two singles, in stages . Use for tourists during the summer and students in the winter. Have talked to Alex Rachun about the . number of bedrooms. Mr. Reitz asked if Mr. Holtkamp was thinking about a modified PUD; you already have one on the books . Mr . Holtkamp said the one on the books is about four years old. Mrs. Georgia said she believed Mr. Rachun said to amend the PUD. Mr. Hogan said that Mr. Holtkamp should get all his information together and submit it to the Town Board and it will be passed on. Youth - John Rogers Distributed agenda of presentation (see attached) . Beth Jenkins said that they would like to check and make sure that everyone is operating with the same ideas; with what we think you want from us. Ms Jenkins reviewed the ,. Authority, Purpose and Responsibilities as stated in the Operating Guidelines (attached) . We would like to discuss Membership with you further. Mr. Rogers said that now we have a membership of seven members . Have two advisory positions. We are suggesting that we add two voting positions. . . one would be a youth representative (appointed by the school and approved by us and the Town Board) ; would also like a voting member to be from the Village/County Board rep. or the Town/County Board rep. ; would alternate the terms , so that • • one would vote one year and the other would be advisory and then the next year switch it around. Would like Town approval on adding these two reps and giving voting status alternately. Mr. Reitz said he did bring this forward at a previous Town Board meeting. One of the Board members asked if both the • Village/County rep and Town/County rep couldn' t vote. Original seven members was under State law; that has now been altered or modified. Brief discussion ensued. Mr. Rogers said that having more voting members would mean having a larger quorum. Mr. Reitz moved that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses accept • the Joint Youth Commission's membership increase for one youth ' member and one municipal representative alternating proposal for increased membership to the Joint Youth Commission. Mrs . Stover seconded the motion so that discussion could take • place. Discussion took place regarding the quorum. Mr. Hogan suggested leaving it up to the Commission. Mr. Reitz said it needs to be decided upon because it means a change in the by-laws and the by- . . laws are constituted by the municipality only. Mr. Weatherby suggested "up to ten members". Mr. Reitz said that each of the • members has to be identified. Mr. Reitz withdrew his motion. Mr . Reitz moved that the Town of Ulysses approve a by-law exchange to allow for up to ten (10) voting members on the Joint Youth Commission membership to remain as defined in the present by-laws, amended to also increase one youth member, two municipal representatives as voting members. Seconded by Mr. Weatherby. - . rr `. Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting January 4, 1993 Hearing no further discussion the Board voted as follows: Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted Was determined that the youth representative be by the Youth • III Commission. • Ms . Jenkins continued review of Operating Guidelines . Under Fiscal and Programmatic Affairs, item 4. . .Beth asked the Board how they would like to have the reports. . .quarterly, monthly, semi-annually. In writing, orally, both. Mr. Hogan said monthly would be a burden to the Youth Commission. Mrs . Stover felt quarterly reports with a written agenda, brief verbal report. Mr. Weatherby felt every six months . Mr. Reitz suggested on the reporting is that the budget process we go through every year. . .in September we met with the Village Board, • prepared at that time to give a report . That may be a key time for a verbal/written report and then maybe six months after i that . . .say May or June, prior to the summer activities . Mr . Reitz said he could fill in with the quarterly report . Mr. Rogers agreed with that . Mr. Rogers said that some brief reports will be presented this evening. Ken Lansing - DARE program. In third year teaching DARE program. Works with the 5th grade. Not able to do extra things this year due to class scheduling. Budget has stayed the same the past three years. Hope to continue and will if schedule allows. • Extended and open invitation for January 27 at 7 :00pm at the Middle School , to attend the graduation of the first two classes taught this semester. Thanked the Town for their contribution. Judy Barkee - Library. At the end of the 1992 summer reading program, 122 children were awarded a certificate of participation. Hired four high school students during summer. Helped supervise the children, worked during regular library hours and assisted adult volunteers . Goals for 1993 : expand summer program, hire one or more youth workers , purchase new research material . • Mr. Reitz said the workers this past summer were put through the Town payroll . . . is there any problem with running them through your payroll? Mr. Miller said yes, pay the librarian and assistant librarian as consultants; don' t have capabilities to withhold taxes , etc. Karen Chadwick - UYU. Worked with youth, highlighting health issues such as AIDS. Other activities : fashion show, block party. Serving an average of eight people at the drop-in center each day. Have an out-reach program at the high school . Brought back the Jacksonville program and have about five kids on an ongoing basis . Youth employment . . . twelve kids on a referral rn basis and seven on the babysitting list . Have started a new education class to work with parents and teenagers . Dan Watson Executive Board, UYU. Made new strides this year. • Working jointly with Tompkins County Youth. Been able to expand our Board of Directors . Also took on a person to help with fund • raising. Passed a new mission statement . John Rogers - Summer Rec. Well attended; on budget . Had to increase the fees but didn' t seem to present a problem. Thanks Town of Ulysses 4 ''• • Regular Town Board Meeting , January 4, 1993 in part to Bill ' s efforts, a Rotary Scholarship helped those youth to participate who might not have been able. , • Mr . Hogan asked that the presentation of funding for Youth • Services be held until Mr. Curtis reiturna . Mr . Rogers will . • return for the February 1st Town Board meeting. Considering funding for Summer Rec. , summer reading, UYU, DARE, jobs , teen �. ' events, after school program. OLD BUSINESS Vacancies Two Planning Board positions need to be filled. Four people responded, plus one request from a current member to be reappointed. Mr. Hogan said that Krys Cail has been very good on the Planning Board and entertained a motion to reappoint her for a seven year term. Moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby that Krys Cail be reappointed to the Town of Ulysses Planning Board for a term expiring December 2000. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye • Mr. Weatherby aye Approved • Mr. Hogan stated that the Board interviewed the other four people to fill the vacancy on the Planning Board. Ruth Kahn, Joanne • Molino, David Laurie and Greg Hoffmire. All seem capable and willing to serve. Mr. Hogan asked how many vacancies were on Master Plan and Mr. Reitz said that to the best of his knowledge ' there was never a set number of members . Mr. Hogan said that in • past have tried to have different representation on the Board from different sectors in Town. We've lost our agricultural • representatives; Greg Hoffmire would represent this sector. Mr. Hogan entertained the motion, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby to appoint Greg Hoffmire to the Ulysses Planning Board for a term to expire December 1997 (filling the unexpired term of Jerry Perkins) . • Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Approved . Mr . Hogan stated that perhaps the other interested candidates would be interested on serving on the Master Plan Committee and would have the chairman contact them. Ruth Kahn asked how the sub-committee has been established and Mr. Hogan explained. American Legion PUD Mr. Hogan said that a recommendation has been received from the Planning Board to deny this PUD. Don' t have full representation tonight of the Town Board so will wait to discuss this at another Town Board meeting. Mr. Reitz agreed and suggested that this ' item be put on the February Agenda for a vote. Pleasant Grove Assoc. B2 Mr. Hogan said that Pleasant Grove Assoc. came to the Town about a year ago with a request for a PUD on RT 96. Would like to develop the area. When the Town initiated a new B2 zoning - Pleasant Grove expressed a strong interest in having their ' property rezoned to B2 . We have asked the Planning Board to look at this request and think we need to make that request official . a _ i - Town of Ulysses 5 , Regular Town Board Meeting January 4 , 1993 Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover to request the Ulysses Planning Board to review the request by Pleasant Grove Associates to rezone the property on RT 96 in Jacksonville to a 82 zone. Mr . Hogan aye :` Mr . Reitz aye . Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye ' Ill Approved . Mr. Reitz asked where Mr. Hogan wished to deal with Voucher #475. • Mr. Hogan stated that this voucher is for Election Expenses which has been passed along to the Town from Tompkins County. The bill for this year is for $15, 558.04 . Seems to be some question as to whether we should pay it or not. We are going to encumber those funds until we get a legal opinion that we should pay it or not . • Mr. Reitz moved to encumber $15,559.00 to cover Election Expenses • • on Voucher #475 to Tompkins County Board of Elections, seconded by Mrs. Stover. t. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye • Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Approved Mr. Reitz said he has researched this and has the State Comptrollers opinion. Need some legal opinion alsg. ,, The County Board of Reps is reviewing their position on this:X 8ould sue the County, probably would win, but the County will get their money " one way or the other. . .increase taxes . Brief discussion ensued. Mr . Hogan suggested discussing this with Jim Mason. Mr. Reitz said we are having another meeting January 16. Could hold the '" bill , encumber the fund and adjourn this until the January 16th • meeting. . .may have more answers by then. Mr . Hogan thought that a good idea. NEW BUSINESS Storage Mr. Hogan said that he spoke with employees concerning the shortage of storage space in Town Hall . Suggest that we speak . with the Village about using some of their space. . .buy metal rack shelving. Spoke with Village Clerk, suggested a room off the ' court room. Called Tom Bennett , asked for something in writing so they can consider it at their next meeting. A. APPOINTMENTS: Supervisor Hogan made the following appointments : • a. Bookkeeper: Jeanne Vanderbilt b. Town Historian: Esther Northrup c. Deputy Supervisor: Catherine Stover d. Chair. Highway Com: Robert Weatherby e. Chair. Bldg/Maint : William Hogan f . Liaison/Ulysses Lib: Thomas Reitz II/ g. Chair Recycling Com: Catherine Stover h. Liaison/Town/Village Board: Thomas Reitz Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Weatherby, seconded by Mr. Reitz , the following resolution: RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint the following: a. Zoning Officer: Alex Rachun b. Deputy Zoning Officer: John Pahs • ri• t `� : i, gyp . ,' �i' ' !: .,,J" s' `i. 3:`� ..1,•.T r... ..it '.• Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting January 4, 1993 c. Building Inspector: Alex Rachun d. Fire Inspector: Doug Austic e. Planning Bd. Chair: David Tyler f . Zoning Ed. Chair: Gail Zabawsky g. Rep. Env. Mngt. Council : Roxanne Marino h. Rep. Human Ser. Coalition: Aileen Beers i . Rep. Asses. Rev. Hd: VACANT (2 positions) j . Election Custodians: Keith Northrup Robert Bennett k. Town Cleaner: Kim Fitchpatrick 1 . Rep. United Way: Donald Shardlow m. Rep. Co. Plan. Hd: Thomas Reitz n. Rep. Co. Youth Bd: Joe Scherer • o. Rep. Ulysses Youth: Thomas Reitz p. Rep. Cable TV: VACANT q. Liaison Town/Vill Youth: Thomas Reitz r. Liaison SPCA: Carolyn Duddleston • s. Town Attorney: Bruce Wilson t . Rep. EOC: VACANT u. Rep. Public Access Chan: Ben Curtis Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Approved B. SALARIES/WAGES • Mr: Hogan entertained a motion„ moved by Mrs. Stover, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following: RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approve salaries and wages as follows: 1. ELECTED TOWN OFFICIALS: (yearly salary) a. Supervisor $ 5, 622 .85 b. Councilpeople 2 ,530. 75 ea. (4) c. Justices : Rector 9, 115.50 Zimmerman 4,120 .00 d. Town Clerk 23, 211. 95 • e. Highway Supt. 31 ,455.72 f . Rec. of Taxes 2 ,750 .00 2 . APPOINTED OFFICIALS (as stated) a. Deputy Town Clerk 8.56/hr. b. Deputy Supervisor 5.89/hr. c. Zoning Officer 9, 153 . 54/yr. d. Deputy Zon. Officer 8 . 56/hr. e. Bldg. Inspector 9,153. 54/yr. f . Bldg. Insp. Clerk 896. 31/yr g. Bookkeeper 6,375 . 85/yr. h. Historian 375.00/yr. i . Justice Clerk 18 ,847 . 76/yr. Deputy Justice Clk 6.81/hr. j . Fire Inspector 11 . 33/hr. k. Cleaner 6.11/hr. 1 . Office Assist. 6.50/hr. m. Recycling Super 6.00/hr. n. Planning Clerk 7 . 25/hr. Mr. Hogan aye •• Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted C. MEETING SCHEDULES: Town of Ulysses 7 Regular Town Board Meeting January 4, 1993 Mrs. Georgia, on behalf of Mr. Meeker, Mrs . Vanderbilt and herself expressed the hardship of having the meeting on the first Monday of the month. Don't get bank statements, vendor bills before the meeting, thus everything is passing in the mail ; time wasted checking through old vouchers to see if the bill has been ▪ paid, etc. • • Mr. Hogan said an option is to go to the third Monday of each • month. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs . Stover, the following: Ill • RESOLVED: that the Regular Meetings of the Ulysses Town •• Hoard shall be held on the third Monday of each month. All meetings shall commence at 7 : 30PM at Ulysses Town Hall , 10 Elm. St . , Trumansburg, NY: review of claims shall start at 7 :00PM and shall be open to the public. • FURTHER RESOLVED: that designated local news media be notified of the foregoing schedule and the same shall be posted • in accordance with the open meetings law. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted D. AUTHORIZATIONS: • Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Weatherby, seconded by Mrs. Stover, the following: RESOLVED: that a mileage rate of $.28.0 per mile be paid to Town officials and Employees conducting official Town Business when driving their private vehicles. RESOLVED: that the Highway Superintendent be authorized to ® incur expenses not exceeding $3,000 . for repairs and maintenance of highway equipment. RESOLVED: that the Chairman of Building and Maintenance be authorized to incur expenses not exceeding $1,000 . for emergency maintenance and repairs. RESOLVED: that undertaking for Town Officials are hereby approved as follows : a. Clerk $5000. b. Justice 4000 . c. Deputy Clerk/Justice C1k.4000. d. Receiver of Taxes 200 ,000 . e. Supervisor/Deputy 50,000. f . Zoning/Bldg. Inapt . 500 . g. Fire Inspector 100. • h. Highway Superintendent 4000 . RESOLVED: that in lieu of the report required by Town Law Sec. 29 (10) , the Supervisor be and he hereby is authorized to submit to the Town Clerk a copy of his annual report to the State Comptroller and that the Town Clerk shall cause a summary thereof to be published in accordance with law. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs . Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted E. DESIGNATIONS: Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Stover, the following: if Town of Ulysses 8 Regular Town Board Meeting January 4 , 1993 RESOLVED: that the Ithaca Journal and the Trumansburg FreePress be and they are hereby designated as the Official Town Publications. RESOLVED: that the Tompkins County Trust Company is designated as the depository in which the Supervisor, Clerk, Receiver of Taxes, Justicea and Inspectors, by virtue of their offices, shall deposit all money coming into their hands. FURTHER RESOLVED: that Town investments can be made at other banks as outlined in the Town Investment Policy. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted F. RESOLUTIONS - ASSOC. OF TOWNS MEETING Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Weatherby, seconded by Mrs . Stover to appoint Ben Curtis to represent the Town of Ulysses at the Assoc. of Towns Meeting. • Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Weatherby aye Approved Reports Mr. Meeker, Highway Superintendent was unable to attend due to • • previous commitments . Mrs . Georgia, Town Clerk, reported that a total of $836.50 was collected for December, of which $542 .03 was turned over to the Supervisor. Distributed Town Clerk's Year End Report and reviewed the document . Mrs . Georgia, Tax Collector, reported that the total amount collected before January 1st was $43, 683. 96 . Total receipts collected today, January 4th, was $39, 271.00. Mrs . Georgia read Mr. Rachun's Zoning/Building report to the Board. Total of three permits . Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence as follows : SPCA, Red Cross , Local Govt. Regulatory Relief Report/Solid Waste, Water Quality Steering Com. , ACC, Town Law - publications, NYS Housing, Government Access Meeting, TC Planning/239 L&M procedures, Association of Towns, NYSDOT, Legal request/sewer/water, Transportation Newsletter, Information on Fed. SBA/trees . Hearing no further business, Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn to January 16, 1993 at 9:30AM, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 10 : 20PM. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk • pm .r ULYSSES—TRUMANSEURG. JOINT YOUTH COMMISSION OPERATING GUIDELINES AUTHORITYS 1' The Ulysses-Trumansburg Joint Youth Commission was created by resolution of the Town and Village Board in 1988 pursuant to Articles 95 and 13 of the General Municipal Law. Articles 99 charges Youth Commissions with the responsibility for coordination of all youth programming within the municipalities • and Article 13 enables municipalities to create joint recreation • commissions which may include youth service programming as wall . • PURPOSE: • The purpose of the Joint Youth Commission is to recommend policies , plans and procedures to the sponsoring municipalities to enable the development , implementation and coordination of effective programs that meet the recreational and development needs of youth. RESPONSIBILITIESt The responsibilities of the Joint Youth Commission include: 1 . To assess the needs and priorities of the youth of the community and develop programs to meet these needs; 2. To analyze the existing youth service system, determine the gaps in services and design programming to avoid duplication and to enlist the participation of youth wno are normally not attracted to existing programming ; 3. The Joint Youth Commission shall review all requests iar• municipal funds for youth programs and shall recommend to • the Town and Village Boards programs to be operated directly by the municipalities or through contracts with qualified agencies; • 4 . To reassess programming periodically to assure that it • is, in fact , meeting the needs for which it was originally /designed ; 5. To inform the public of the existence and goals and duties of the Youth Commission, so as to enlist maximum participation and support for youth programming ; 6. To encourage the active participation of yowls peu;itu through the appointment o ' yuutn members to the J'it nt You Lfi Commission a.idlof the crr at iun of a Youth tlovisori Co.nis r I ; • • 7 . To explore and evaluate a variety of sources for funding program needs to include regular contact with othe, funders such as Ulysses Community Council ; 8. To maintain a direct line of communication between the Joint Commission and the Municipal Boards; 9. To participate in the Tompkins County Comprehensive Youth Service Plan to ensure coordination with other youth service providers and to maximize utilization of available • resources; • 10. To recommend potential County Youth Board members to the municipalities when vacancies occur . MEMBERSHIP: 1 . The Joint Youth Commission shall be comprised of 7 voting members: 1 Member shall be appointed annually from the Town Board 1 Member shall be appointed annually from the Village Board 1 Member to . be appointed annually by the Trumansburg School Board 2 At—large Members to be appointed by the Town 2 At Large Members to be appointed by the Village • 2. All voting members must be at least 16 years of age; 3. The terms of the at large members appointed by municipalities shall be staggered terms of 2 years ; 4 . Terms begin January 1 ; • 5. Members are eligible to be reappointed ; 6. Staff from each program funded by the municipalities shall attend Commission meetings regularly •to report to and advise the Joint Youth Commission and to assure coordination of commivaion- sponsored programming ; 7. 1 Liaison from the municipal representatives to ":ou•,ty Youth Board shall serve as liaisons to the Joint Youth Lommtse.. , ,n . • • • . . . . OFFICERS: 1 . The officers of the Joint Youth Commission shall consist of a • • Chairperson and a Vice Chairperson/Secretary ; • 2. Additional offices may be established by the Joint Youth • • Commission if needed to ensure the proper functioning of the • Commission; • 3. The Chairperson shall preside at all the meetings and discharge the duties pertaining to the office. The Chairperson • shall appoint all committees and committee chairs: 4 . The Vice/Chairperson/Secretary shall perfrom the duties of the • Chairperson in the absence of that officer ; . 5. The Vice Chairperson/Secretary shall keep an accurate record • of all meetings of the Commission to be kept on. file in respective municipal offices ; • 6. The Term of Office shall be for one year , commencing at the first meeting of the new calendar year where the first order of business shall be the election of new officers nominated by the members of the Joint Commission ; • MEETINGS/PROCEDURES: I . The Joint Youth Commission shall schedule open meetings and • may establish by-laws and rules of procedure as are necessary to conduct business; 2. Roberts Rules of Order shall be the authority on all question+.; of Parliamentary - Procecure ; 3. A quorum shall consist of four members and a simple majority shall be required to adopt recommendations . AMENDMENTS: 1 . Any and all of the aforrnentioned may be amended at an, re.3ulnr meeting of the Joint Youth Commission by a majority vote of all members present provided those members constitute a quorum of the • Commission with the approval of each municipality . • FISCAL AND PROGRAMMATIC AFFAIRS,: 1 . The Municipal Boards have the general power and control over • ' the fiscal affairs and expenditures of the Joint Youth Commission. The Village of Trumansburg will be disignated an ).)ice disbursing municipality and will be respons :bLe for entering into contracts , payment of authorized expenditures , submissions Lf applications and claims; 2. The proposed annual program description and operating budget of the Joint Youth Commission shall be adopted by the Joint Youth Commission by October 1 signed by the Chairperson and r2co•nmen`ed • to the Municipal Boards for consideration as part of Municipal budgets; 3. The Joint Youth Commission shall determine the nature ono • frequency of program reports • to be required of Commission sponsored programs; • 4. The Joint Youth Commission shall report (annually, quarterly ? ) to the municipal boards. • p' COMMITTEES: 1 . Shall ' be appointed as needed and may include non-commission members; A. The Youth Advisory Council shall be a sub-committee of the Joint Youth Commission. • • AGENDA Youth Commission/Town of Ulysses January 4 , 1993 Meeting • Action Needed 1 . Review Current Operating Guidelines Beth Jenkins Discussion 2. Present Recommendations for changes in Youth Commission Membership. Review Vote • current appointments. John Rogers 3 . Review and establish youth commission reporting to Town Board. (Discussion Discussion/Vote of current reporting and plans for future) 4 . Brief Reports on 1992 Program Highlights: no action • DARE needed • Library UYU Summer Rec. Summer Jobs 5 . Review of Work Plan and Accomplishments. no action Directory Update: Shannon Switzer needed General Overview: John Rogers 6 . 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They also wanted to determine what could or should the Trumanshurg/Ulysses area do in terms of planning, funding, and • supporting programs and activities for its youth. Commission members felt it was as important to hear from local youth as it was from parents/teachers/community leaders and all concerned citizens about priorities and needs . The Commission used several ways to gather information. First they surveyed high school and middle school youth. 384 out of 455 • middle school youth (84%) responded to the survey. 284 out of 396 - high school youth (71%) responded to the survey. The Commission also surveyed parents of elementary school youth; 65 parents • responded. • • In addition to the surveys the Commission held a community forum to address the current and future directions of local youth planning. This report contains an analysis of the information • collected. If you have questions about any of this information please contact any Commission member. (Commission members names and phone numbers are listed on the back of this report. ) • The information collected revealed a desire for services in the following areas : (This list is in no particular order) ♦ Local facilities such as pool/movie theater/community center. ♦ Increased programs that relate to youth employment and job readiness skills. ♦ Increased recreational opportunities for youth in the evenings, particularly on the weekends and during the summers. ♦ Better public transportation services. ♦ Better services for working parent families such as increased after school programs and full day summer programs. ♦ The need to assure that Town of Ulysses youth who attend the Ithaca Schools have fair access to youth programs. ♦ A community resource directory. ♦ Programs for families. • Youth service programs that deal with issues of sexuality, • family skills, how to be popular, and the police and court system. • The Tompkins County Youth Bureau helped the Commission to gather, summarize and analyze the information in this report. .. Ii: ..1 . .. 4 •,. tr l.f v.vr�\Y • v{�\, t ,: i '1•. .-vl:,('\. • . =v y` t,' •.: 1 ,1 TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING January 16, 1993 `' • Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Absent : Robert Weatherby. Supervisor Hogan called the meeting to order at 10 :20 AM. Mr. Hogan stated that he had discussed the Court budget with Judge Rector. The Court system had revenues exceeding twenty thousand dollars for 1992 . Judge Rector told Mr. Hogan that he _ will be attending the Association of Towns meeting in February and asked for some support from the Town Board. Mr. Hogan said this can be decided at the February Regular Town Board Meeting. The meeting date for Regular Town Board Meetings was discussed. The first Monday of the month causes too many hardships . . .ie: • bank statements aren't received in time, vendor billing not here, etc. Brief discussion ensued.4 Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following: RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town • of Ulysses will hold their Regular Monthly Town Board Meetings on ' the second Tuesday of each month. „�_ Q Mr. Hogan Aye pi_ -�- �p 6 �n � J �`- ` Reitz Mr. • Mrs. Stover Aye --etc( � ��s^ O- Mr. Curtis Aye c-tre Adopted. -.6---�.�'-F *'� Mr. Reitz mentioned that the Village Board had approved nine . voting members for the Youth Commission, and that this Board had approved ten. He asked if the Town wished to amend their vdte so • there is continuity between the Town and Village. Mr. Hogan said that our resolution states "up to ten", thus it falls in with the Village. Brief discussion ensued regarding the upcoming bridge work and the detour involved. Mr. Reitz said he understood that the bids are to be awarded by February 18 . • Hearing no further business Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn to the . Regular Town Board Meeting on February 1, 1993 at 7 :30 PM, seconded by Mrs. Stover. Three items to discuss at that meeting: Youth Funding request, • budget adjustments, and American Legion. Unanimously approved, the meeting adjourned at 10:45 AM. Respectfully submitted, , Paula J. Mount Deputy Clerk . . - • ..: . TOWN OF ULYSSES ADJOURNED TOWN BOARD MEETING February 2, 1993 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis, Robert Weatherby; Deputy Town Clerk Paula Mount . Others Present : Alex Rachun, Bldg/Zoning Officer; John Rogers, Budd t;tover, Andy & Ruth Scott , Phil Colvin and other American Legion representatives, Ruth Kahn, Mary • McLellan, David licLallen and other residents , Ithaca Journal and Free Press representatives . ., Supervisor called the Adjourned meeting of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7 :30 pm and led those assembled in the Pledge of Allegiance to . the Flag of the United States of America. Joint Youth Commission • John Rogers reviewed the 1993 Town and Village allocation recommendations (see attached) . The amount asked for is the same as last year. Some of the areas do try to raise money to help in supporting their program. Also, the area of Jobs & Careers. . .some of those funds do go toward paying workers at the summer rec program. UYU asked for more money; we basically . allocated monies for all the other programs and what was left over we gave to UYU. • - Mr. Rogers also reviewed reimbursement from County and State programs . - Mr. Curtis said he wanted to point out that the Afterschool program. is not a new one and Mr. Rogers said that is correct, this however, is the first year they have requested funds from, the Joint Youth Commission. Mr. Curtis said he has read through materials and tried to identify what the needs were in the community. • Among needs is a need for constructive after school activities for kids in general . Another is the need to access some of the existing programs for working families, -notably the summer programs . Guess I 'm concerned about matching those goals up with what this budget is directed at . . .seems to me that half of this budget is directed at UYU. Summer rec program does address some of the • needs but wonder what the decision making process was that would select UYU for $20 ,000 . of a $40 ,000 . budget (roughly) and what I know of the UYU budget in general , -it 's about a $50 ,000 . program. Far as I can tell , after speaking to different parties, the program isn' t going very far towards providing the recreational opportunities for youth in general on out of school hours , that you might expect from a $50 ,000 . program. Mr. Rogers said there have been some problems . Right now there • is a big effort on working with the Board and getting Board development to see if they can come up with a mission statement . Think in the past it was a stronger program; dealing with 'at risk' youth. That population is hard to reach and problematic because if you work too much with 'at: risk' youth, kids get stigmatized and other youth- might not want to participate in the program. Think they still: want to reach that population but they also want to mainstream and reach the kids so that they don' t • have that kind of image problem that would prevent them from ' being fully utilized. There has been a problem in the past and we have identified. that there has been a problem and really • working with UYU; asking• for a very specific work plan, goals and we [Youth Commission] . will have input . ANEMEMMEMMII _ t. F r + :..,.'+'. ' ,;. r .:4; '.c r. ' .. Town of Ulysses 2 Adjourned Board Meeting February 1, 1993 Mr . Curtis said the thing that alarmed him is that the $50 ,000. in 1992 , $40 ,000 . of that was personnel and guess I asked them about where the parent participation was and there isn' t any to speak of . Think there may be one or two on the Board now, but • also noticed that there are people from Ithaca, Newfield on the Board and think the UYU program serves Newfield to a certain extent . Do they support UYU, any money coming from any of these places or is it just Ulysses? Mr . Rogers said think it is through United Way dollars , County tax dollars, not from Newfield per se, but the population of kids • that are helped through UYU are exclusively Ulysses youth. 4. Mr . Curtis said according to documents there were 900 people and 200 of them were out of the area. Mr. Reitz said they may be affiliated with the Trumansburg school • district . Mr. Rogers said there are some kids in the Trumansburg school district that live in Covert , Schuyler County. . Mr. Curtis said that a program this large that has drifted out of • touch with the community and the goals this community is trying to attain and whose Board is made up in part of people from outside this community and relies very little on parents , and which is not physically supported by parents , but almost entirely by local' and 'State and County tax money; it is drifting away from any accountability yet allocating half of the youth money. Mr. Rogers said your worries are the same as we have had. The reason for lack of parent participation in this program is that • sometimes the parents of the 'at risk' youth tend to be hard to get involved, but we want to help the kids before they get into a court situation and fall through the cracks. We think it is a good program and feel it can be revitalized to serve the need of the youth here. Working to redirect and revitalize. Mr. Reitz said that there are two primary items here; youth development and youth recreation. . .youth recreation can charge • fees for their services ; youth development cannot charge fees according to the State and County guidelines. Would be wonderful to get parents involved or do some fund raisers . . .UYU has had car washes, raffles, dances, chicken bar-b-ques . . .have made some effort . • Mr. Curtis asked if it was possible that the amount of money • allocated for UYU can somehow be made contingent upon some progress toward meeting the goals that the Youth Commission and survey have singled out? Mr. Rogers said they have made the funding contingent upon UYU presenting us with a workable plan that will be reviewed quarterly; they are aware of that . Can write that into the • contract . If UYU comes up with a workable plan and adheres to that plan as agreed upon, we will then pay them the monies allocated. Further discussion ensued along the same lines . Mr. Reitz said that contracts need to be signed by February 15th. Mr. Curtis said that is probably what is traditionally done, personally am - troubled enough by this program would be in favor of submitting vouchered amounts and if money is available later in the year and progress is made to use that money, if specifically requested by UYU. . .. s i,r: '•'Ir.r .r f'. I .'t' f" :i..t. •p , y;..P.;i• . .. . .. L, i ' . far t• /I o Town of Ulysses 3 Adjourned Board Meeting February 1 , 1993 1 Mr . Curtis discussed services at the County level . Mr. Hogan •r said he doesn' t think there should be duplication of services . • Discussion continued with Mr . Curtis reiterating his concerns . Mr. Reitz said this Board approved a budget request back in January of 1992 to cover these programs . The Joint Youth • Commission has looked very closely at all requests (which totaled over $60 ,000 . ) and came up with a total recommendation for • ® $40 , 142 . Mr. Reitz moved that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approve the Joint Youth Commission recommendations for funding of the Youth Programs of $40 ,142 . ; the Town's portion being $17 , 769. as budgeted, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan offered a • friendly amendment : That the contract with UYU be drawn up and quarterly payments be made based on their performance of the goals set forth by the Joint Youth Commission. ' Mr . Reitz moved • the friendly amendment and Mr. Weatherby seconded. • Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye ?' Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Adopted. Mr. Curtis asked if the Mission Statement of UYU could be in hand by next Tuesday. . .Mr. Rogers said that isn' t possible; Joint Youth Commission asked UYU to have the plan to them by March, they are in process of establishing their plan. • American Legion Mr. Hogan stated that a recommendation was received from the Ulysses Planning Board not to approve the PUD request . Mr . Hogan read the letter from David Tyler, Chair of the Planning Board (see American ' Legion file in Clerk's office) . Mr . Tyler said that if the Town Board accepts the Planning Board's recommendation they understand that the Planning Board would • consider an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to accommodate a • use such as the American Legion". Mr. Tyler asked for advise as to the Town Board's preference of the following : 1 . Creating a new category in the existing residential or business zones under Special Permit; or 2 . . Creating a new R2 zone along the lines suggested by Ms Cail at the December 3rd meeting; or 3 . Any other approach under the Zoning Ordinance; or 4. No preference at all . Mr. Hogan said that the Town Board told the Planning Board that - under our current Zoning Ordinance there is no place specifically spelled out for a veteran's organization such as the American Legion; a not-for-profit organization. Obviously there is a flaw • II/ in our zoning and we want to take care of that . So tonight we have to decide if we want to suggest the recommendation of the Planning Board; then depending upon that vote decide what we want • to do regarding amending the Zoning Ordinance to create a spot for non-profit , service type organizations . Mr. Reitz said if we vote to accept the Planning Board ' s recommendation that would be a vote to reject the American Legion, correct? Mr. Hogan said correct . I KF Town of Ulysses 4 Adjourned Board Meeting February 1 , 1993 • Mr . Curtis asked if it would be possible to table this PUD for a • period of time; allow the Planning Board to come back with a zoning proposal ; give a date to come back with a proposal ; could create a vehicle that is better than a PUD. Might solve not only this problem but others that might arise. Mr. Hogan said they are saying that a PUD is not the vehicle that should be used; that a PUD may constitute spot zoning and therefore they recommend that we not do that . However, they are saying there is support for the American Legion and have an • obligation to the Legion to at least give them an answer. As far as the PUD is concerned, don' t see any reason to table that . • Mr . Curtis said the only reason he is suggesting tabling is that it seems what they are saying is not to go with this , that there is a better way; change the zoning. Don' t think it 's fair to take away the approach of the PUD unless we intend to follow through with their suggestion to change the zoning; so my suggestion to table it is that we are saying we will put it aside and give you a reasonable time to come up with a proposal . If we • can' t come up with another mechanism, that would affect the way I would vote on the PUD. Agree with the Planning Board that the - PUD isn' t the best way. • Mr. Reitz said feel we should make some decision on this . Not in favor of tabling this matter. Planning Board has been working on this since early October. Mrs . Stover said we have a proposal in front of us and feel we • need to make a decision one way or the other. Mr . Rachun said the Planning Board did not have a directive from the Town Board to change the zoning; to create a new zone or a special permit . Guess the process could go. . . reject the PUD as it stands now on the basis that it might not be the right vehicle to use; then submit it back to you and you could either disregard it or have a super-majority vote to pass it or to look at it and say we agree with you [Planning Board] and give them a directive to come up with a special permit in an already existing zone or create a new zone. The Planning Board is saying we have ended our loop right now and at this point it is in your hands [Town Board] to act on it; if you want to act on it and send it back to us , fine. . . as Ben suggested. Mr. Curtis said you can send the zoning change to the Planning Board and it has nothing to do with this; this is a problem with our zoning. Regardless of what action we take on this . . . but if we don't have a better tool than the PUD. Mr . Rachun said there is a difference. . . one is you are required to have a super-unanimous vote now; whereas if it were sent back and represented in a fashion that may be within the framework of our zoning as it exists now; or has a special permit or a new zone as an approval by the Planning Board, then you wouldn' t be required to have a super-unanimous vote. There is a technical difference. Mr. Reitz said we have in our provisions where our residential districts are now special permits under the authority of the Zoning Board of Appeals . Would the ZBA ever need a super- unanimous vote if there is a protest by a percentage of the land owners adjacent to this property? Mr . Rachun said the only way I can see requiring a super- unanimous vote; that may be one framework, not entirely sure; but am sure that if 239 was rejected or if there was some other • • • Town of Ulysses 5 Adjourned Board Meeting February 1 , 1993 problem on the County level , a super-unanimous vote may be required, but think you are correct . l Mr. Hogan said if we send this back to the Planning Board it . depends how they amend the Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Rachun said they could send it right to the BZA too. They could put it in the framework of the residential zone subject to a special permit approval by the Board of Zoning Appeals . You [Town Board] would vote in that law as part of Town Law and then 1 from that point on the authority would be with the Board of Zoning Appeals . Or you could have your own special permit . Mr. Curtis said the problem he is having is that he agrees with the Planning Board that the PUD is a bad way to handle these things. . .have done it for years. Don't see anything different about this PUD request and others that have come before this Board. Only thing that might be different is that at this point the Planning Board is talking about . . . we think we have a better way of doing it; or you give us a directive and we' ll come up . with a better way to do this . If they did that I think that 's the way I 'd very much like to see us go. If we don't come up with another tool to deal with it , then it 's very hard for me on a. the basis of the evidence I 've heard, to say that for some reason this PUD should be denied. That 's why I 'm suggesting we table this . . .not that we send this back to the Planning Board, it' s here until we resolve it; but that we ask them to send us another way of dealing with it and to do it within a certain period of time. . .a month or two. ' Mr. Rachun said one of the differences may lie in the fact that the Town Board has been advised with a different opinion how to proceed with a PUD; some evidence may show that this is not the I right way to deal with a PUD. Mr. Hogan said we have one person who would like to see it tabled; another does not want to see it tabled; which ever way we go think we have an obligation to everyone involved to get the matter resolved. If we ignore the recommendations and advice of our attorney, we are asking for trouble and giving a no confidence vote to the Planning Board; if we don' t table it , just send it back to the Planning Board could drag on. If we do table it and give the Planning Board a time period to work on an answer, don' t think that 's a bad way to go. Mr. Curtis moved the following resolution, seconded by Mr . Weatherby for discussion: RESOLVED: that the Town Board table the American Legion PUD request for a period of two months and; FURTHER RESOLVED: that the Board direct the Planning Board, per their request , to develop a new use in the Zoning Ordinance that would describe an organization like the American Legion, and to designate the location where such an organization could go and whatever conditions , such as a special permit, would be required. Mr. Reitz asked Mr . Curtis to explain what he means by 'designate locations ' . Mr. Curtis said he thinks it proper for the Planning Board to recommend to this Board whether it [fraternal organizations/social club, whatever it is defined as] would go into residential , commercial , B2 , or wherever. Would also suggest they probably should consider a special permit use, which would mean that wherever it was allowed to go, it would -••1-11 . .._ -i. ' �' ..; :��;:1. ;j,;.V..!::- _ ?y fir! n. ,. / i 1-'r. . . . �'•`d: l 4N, .,* B ♦ . .•Town of Ulysses 6 Adjourned Board Meeting February 1 , 1993 require a special permit which would have to take into account :. the concerns of the neighbors , area, etc. and my reason for that is that clubs like the American Legion, there's a wide spectrum of organizations that might fit into that category and there's a wide spectrum of neighborhoods it might go into and it might give • the Planning Board and Town Board a chance to tailor those individual applications . • Mr . Reitz asked if Mr . Curtis was suggesting that the special permit be issued by the Planning Board or the Town Board, not the BZA? Mr . Curtis said he' s leaving that , think it 's proper that • recommendation comes from the Planning Board and think we'd consider whatever recommendation they give us. Mr. Hogan felt two months was a pretty short period. °'. Mr . Reitz said it has been worked on since October. Mr . Weatherby stated that if this motion is passed he would like • to have the Town Board meet with the Planning Board to speed this process up. Hearing no further discussion the Board voted as follows : Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Nay Mrs . Stover Nay Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Adopted. Ill Mr. Hogan said we will table the recommendation and send this back to the Planning Board and give them sixty days to work it out . Mr . Rachun said to send it back as a special permit to be worked in somewhere in the existing framework of the Zoning Ordinance. . .is that correct? • Mr. Curtis said that they go back and establish a use that • describes the American Legion or similar organization and establish a process , a special permit, and tell us which zone it • goes into. Mr. Curtis asked Mr. Rachun if he would draft a sample law and Mr. Rachun agreed to do this . Mr. Hogan asked what other business . Mr. Reitz said there are some budget adjustments . Mr . Hogan said perhaps those can wait until the Regular Board meeting on February 9. Association of Towns Meeting • Roger Rector has requested some financial support from the Town • as he is planning to attend the Association of Towns Meeting in NYC. Mr. Hogan said our Town representative is going to be Ben Curtis . Spoke with Judge Rector and he will be going any way. Discussion ensued. Mr. Reitz moved the following resolution: RESOLVED: that the Town Board reimburse Roger Rector up to $500 . 00 from the Justice Dept . contractual budget to attend the Assoc. of Town's Meeting in NYC. No second heard. Town of Ulysses 7 Adjourned Board Meeting February 1 , 1993 Was recommended that another line item be put on the budget requests; rather than having just an amount to cover supplies , travel , etc. ; have two areas , one for travel and the other for • supplies. Mr. Hogan will speak with Judge Rector prior to next Tuesday's Regular Board Meeting. Appointment/ZBA, Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover to reappoint George Tselekis to the Zoning Board of Appeals with a term to expire • 12/31/97 . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye • Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Rod & Gun Club • Mr. Hogan said he had heard several complaints about activities at the Rod and Gun Club. Since the club is in the Village of Trumansburg, Mr. Reitz will take these concerns to the Village at their next meeting. Hearing no further business Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved the • meeting adjourned at 9: 30pm. Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount Deputy Clerk pm •'+ 'L I:.Y ?�Jl :di�.f t: -.\ . . . t3!;X '� r. t 3.,tt•1 a ` •t1 r*\r.. 1 i••. ;A.S✓:� r\r.r. .v , . ,' . • TOWN OF ULYSSES � I REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING February 9, 1993 jJ Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Ben Curtis , Tom Reitz , Catherine Stover; Highway Superintendent Jim Meeker; Zoning/Building Inspt . Alex Rachun; Bookkeeper Jeanne Vanderbilt; Deputy Town Clerk Paula Mount . Absent : Bob Weatherby. Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Town Board meeting of the Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 40pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes, moved by Mrs . Stover, seconded by Mr. Reitz , as follows : (Mr . Reitz asked that the Special Board Mtg. of December 29, 1992 be added) . Regular Town Board Mtg. January 4, 1993; Special Board Mtg. January 16, 1993; Adjourned Mtg. February 1, 1993; Special Board Mtg. December 29, 1992 . • Mr. Reitz made the following corrections : Special Board Mtg. December 29, 1992 -- pg. 1 Mr. Rogers came to the January 4th meeting. pg. 5 change paragraph to say Mr . Bailey was sick and that a temporary replacement was found. January 4, 1993 Mtg. -- pg. 6 bottom paragraph; re Election Expenses : says "could sue the County" amend to say "Town could sue the County". January 16 Spec. Bd. Mtg. -- re Meeting dates for Town Board Mtgs . ; Brief discussion ensued, due to a Town Board members prior work commitment on the third Monday evening, the following motion. . . . February 1 Adj . Bd. Mtg. -- change date. Also, pg. 8 at bottom, • last paragraph; re adding line item on budget request form; add "for 1994". • Mrs . Vanderbilt requested a copy of minutes of February 1 , 1993 . N1. Hearing no further corrections or additions , Mr . Curtis moved to accept the minutes as amended, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved. • Trumansburq Fire Department •- No report . Representative James Mason No report . Claims • Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #13-57 for a total of $162 ,025 . 10 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mr . Curtis . Was discovered that Claim #26 for Fire Protection in the amount of $92 ,137 .00 did not need to be vouchered; thus Claim #26 was • withdrawn and the total amount of the Claims to approve totaled $69, 818 . 10 . Mr. Reitz moved to approve the Claims , seconded by Mr. Curtis . The Board members were concerned with the amount of Workers Compensation and Mr . Hogan will speak with Mr. Farrell/Farrell- Messler Insurance, about this item. Mr. Hogan Aye • .i.�.:. sa.nK.}(n.¢',,6 .S �' .A(+/(ntA '"'41A .S•' Ln '';:' .. f. f 1.'" I Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting February 9, 1993 Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye • Approved. Mr. Hogan said we will go directly to Old Business , Item A and do • the budget adjustments . Mrs . Vanderbilt distributed a copy of the budget adjustments (at'taz'1red) needed. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Curtis , seconded by Mr . Reitz the following: That $198 .00 be transferred from Contingency Fund for - $90 . 00 A1670 . 04; $66 . 00 A5182 .04; $42 .00 A9030 .08 . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Curtis , seconded by Mr. Reitz the following: That $3240 . 00 be transferred from DA5142 .01 to DA5142 .04 Snow. Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr . Curtis , seconded by • Mr . Reitz the following: That $1547 . 00 be transferred from DB9950 to DB5110 .04 for $213 .00 and DB5112 . 02 for $1334 .00 . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover to appropriate $6,192 .00 from the Fund Balance, to be distributed to four areas of Workmans Compensation line items, amending the 1993 Budget . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Discussion ensued regarding this resolution. . .Mr. Hogan said we need to know the account numbers . Mrs . Vanderbilt said you can' t transfer from A to B; Mr. Reitz said it seems that this resolution is premature. Mr. Curtis withdrew the above resolution until more information is available. Mrs . Vanderbilt advised waiting to do this until the March Regular Town Board meeting. Supervisor' s Financial Report Distributed. Hearing of Delegations & Individuals None OLD BUSINESS • New Front Door - Mr . Hogan said one estimate had been received ' Town of Ulysses 3 • Regular Town Board Meeting February 9, 1993 • for $642 .73 . Will wait to receive two others . Joint Meeting with Planning Board/re American Legion - Mr. Hogan said that there really isn' t a reason to have a joint meeting; have asked Alex Rachun to draft a law and will leave specifics to ,E: the Planning Board. General discussion ensued. Mr. Rachun will get a draft to the Planning Board. Association of Towns Resolutions HIGHWAY FUNDING - Unanimously approved. REVENUE SHARING - Unanimously approved. RETIREMENT SYSTEM - Unanimously approved. LANDFILL CLOSURE - Unanimously approved. IMPACT FEES - Unanimously not approved. SPECIAL FRANCHISE ASSESSMENTS - Unanimously approved. TOWN BUDGET FLEXIBILITY - Unanimously approved. DELINQUENT TAX NOTICES - Unanimously approved. REAL PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS - Unanimously approved. INTERMUNICIPAL COOPERATION - Unanimously approved. • GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALES - Unanimously approved. UTILITY TAX AUTHORITY - Unanimously not approved. IIIREAL PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX - Unanimously not approved. Authorization for Cooperative Purchasing Mrs . Mount read the following resolution, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Authorization to Participate in Cooperative Purchasing of Highway Services with Tompkins County WHEREAS, the Office of the State Comptroller has ruled that counties may no longer extend their bids for public work • (services) to political subdivisions , and WHEREAS, General Municipal Law Section 119-0 provides for municipalities entering into cooperative purchasing :.. agreements to jointly bid needed services, and WHEREAS, General Municipal Law, Article 5-G, • Section 119-0 states that "any agreement entered into • hereunder shall be approved by each participating municipal corporation or district by a majority vote of its governing body, " now therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Town of Ulysses be hereby • authorized to participate with Tompkins County in the cooperative purchasing of the following highway services : Ill -Bituminous Materials -Guiderail -Vegetation Control -Installation of Underdrain -Bridge Work The Town of Ulysses reserves the right to accept or reject all bids . Mr. Hogan Aye • 1 f •. YI Y l .l.b. .:.1 ,yl ,.1. ✓ r1:•. l ra.. "! . . L {.., M' ... .. .• . ... ..•1• ep •'{j Town of Ulysses 4 '-` Regular Town Board Meeting February 9, 1993 • Mr . Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr . Curtis Aye Adopted. Fish & Game Club Mr . Reitz said that a question came up at the last meeting concerning the location of the Fish & Game Club. . . it is located in the Town not the Village. Thus the resident concerns about III shooting needs to be addressed. Mr . Hogan knows some of the members so will speak to them. NEW BUSINESS Request for Street Licht - Request from Mr . Walden for a street light at the intersection of RT 96 and Seneca Road. Mr. Meeker will send it on to NYS/DOT. REPORTS • Deputy Town Clerk - Mrs . Mount reported that fees collected for • the month of January totaled $1304 . 39 of which $1132 . 94 was • turned over to the Supervisor with monthly report . The Clerk's office is working on updating the Zoning Ordinance and inputting • in the computer. Mrs . Mount also reported that the Tax Collector had paid $574, 256. 00 (total warrant) to the Supervisor as of January 28, 1993 . Installments balanced and have been turned over to the County along with a check for $3533 . 42 . 189 taxpayers took advantage of the installment payment and the County will pay the Town $1 .00 per installment . Total taxes collected to date are • $1,075 , 728 .74; $475 ,000 . turned over to the County prior to ' February 1, 1993 . • Highway Superintendent - Mr. Meeker reported that he is looking at purchasing a used roller; has overhauled all trucks . Not much plowing but a lot of salting. Speed reduction has been denied for the detour route. • Zoning/Building Inspector - Mr. Rachun distributed his year end report to the Board. Issued four permits in January. Board Members Mr . Reitz commented that the Village Trustees had asked about the Town using storage facilities . Mr . Hogan is working on obtaining shelving. Suggested moving some storage boxes over prior to the shelving. Justice Department • • Roger Rector and the Board discussed the Justice Department • budget . Has not received a year end budget stat . He indicated that expenses have been consistent the past two years . Was determined that another line item will be added to all department budget requests so that travel can be extracted from total contractual expenses . The number of training sessions were reviewed. Mr. Reitz stated that the State has travel expense III guidelines that could be considered using. . .so much per day and then the employee covers the balance. Groton has been doing this for years , allocating $500 . per person. Discussion ensued. Mr. Hogan said the Board would make a decision and let him know. Hearing no further discussion Mr. Rector left . • Cr:`M1 • t. Town of Ulysses 5 <;. Regular Town Board Meeting February 9, 1993 • • The Board discussed the number of trips and how many were necessary . Mr. Reitz reiterated his previous recommendation to • allocate a per diem amount . Mr. Curtis will check with other Towns concerning how they handle travel expenses . ,;• Mr. Curtis said that since he is only using $200 . that the Board consider allocating the $300 . for Mr. Rectors ' trip to NYC. Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover the following resolution: RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses reimburse, for appropriate expenses from the Judicial Contractual Fund, up to $300 . to Roger Rector to attend the Association of Towns Annual Meeting in New York City . Mr . Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Nay . Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Correspondence Mr. Hogan received the following correspondence: letter re: RT • 96 detour; copy of letter from DOT to Simmons; ACC; Gypsy Moth; Town of Lansing/Bd. of Election charge; SPCA; Dewitt Historical • Society; Local Government Publications; William Holtkamp; Board of Elections; Joint Youth; Tompkins County Dept . of Health; . Souther Tier East; Association of Towns . Hear no further business Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn, seconded by " ' Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 11:00pm. •' ill Respectfully submitted, Paula J. Mount : I Deputy Clerk J • • • li yY • r'. TOWN OF ULYSSES •" PLANNING BOARD MEETING TRUMANSBURG TOWN HALL FEBRUARY 22 , 1993 if PRESENT: Chairman, David Tyler; Planning Board Members : Budd Stover, Dan Smith and Gregg Hoffmire; Secretary : Roxanne Smith. OTHER PRESENT: Mary McLallen, Charles Oa+s , Tom Reitz, Ruth Kahn and one other gentleman. Chairman David Tyler called the meeting to order at 7 :45 P.M. , and requested that the minutes of their last meeting of Decem- ber 11 , 1992 be approved . The letter to William Hogan is in • essence the minutes of that meeting as there was no record •• keeper present . The letter reflected the decisional meeting on the American Legion PUD application. Dan Smith made the motion to approve the minutes . Budd Stover seconded the mo- tion, there was no discussion, all were in favor, the motion passed . The minutes are now all up to date. Alex Rachun had intended to be present at this meeting but was unable to attend due to conjunctivitis. Krys Cail is out of town until the 11th of March and Gerri Keil is out of town until the 2nd . There was no communication received from Dick Garner . David suggested that this meeting would be spent in discussion of the matter that has now been referred back to the Planning Board . Budd queried as to whether anything had been written up as a result of Krys Cail ' s suggestions at the December 3rd meeting. Dan stated that they seemed to be back at that point • as a result of the Town Board meeting. Everyone agreed . David summerized that the Town Board tabled their considera- tion of the PUD and requested the Planning Board to consider a new use in the zoning ordinance to describe a designation like the American Legion and to state the conditions where it could go. Dan said that at the December 3rd meeting they were '. . pressed for time towards the end and they didn ' t get into the specifics of the Residential Zoning Ordinance. Dave thought that Krys ' s concept was looking to take the more intense use out of the first level of Residential and put it into a sec- ond level . The less intense Residential would he one or two family dwellings . "M through P" would remain in. the R1 . The R2 would consist of "F through L" and things such as a social • club, daycare and many things that haven ' t even been mentioned before. Daved did want to point out one thing procedurely. The Planning Board was asked to look at one specific parcel , • the PUD. Now they've asked us to come back and look at the entire Zoning Ordinance. If the Town changes the Zoning Ordin- . ance it becomes a legislative function that becomes townwide . The development district is just one parcel . One solution is • to make an across the board change in the Zoning Ordinance which provides for the social club or whatever you want to call this specifically. A gentleman from the audience raised the question are you limited in changing the zoning until the com- prehensive plan has been enacted? Dave replied that they wern ' t • necessarily restricted in changing the ordinance . The problem is after they go ahead and create an R1 and R2, where to locate them. The Master Planning Committee is the body to recommend where to locate them not the Planning Board . Dave mentioned that Alex had relayed that in the next few weeks the maps will be ready and that the Master Planning Committee will be able to meet . Dave stated that it is important to recognize that once something like this is put in as a permitted use, even with a special per- mit with specific conditions that there is still only one Residen- tial Zone. As long as the conditions are met this social club • • Town of Ulysses 2 Planning Board Meeting February 22, 1993 • could be placed anywhere within the zone . The PUD is a legisla- "' tive process . If the Town rejects it , the person has no claim against the Town for not granting it . If granted, a spot zon- ing challenge can be made, but if not what does this do to the zoning ordinance? The Town Board is reluctant to follow through . with a PUD. Is there another way to accomplish this without a PUD and without doing damage to the zoning ordinance in general? •. One way to go would be to place it in a B1 or B2 zone or in a Residential with a Special Permit . Another alternative would be to look at all the items in the Zoning Ordinance that require a Special Permit and develop something that would handle them across the board. Dan queried was the Special Permit defined any- where in the Zoning Ordinance? Budd mentioned the only thing he found was on page 3 section 8. David said that is really a pre- amble. Dave stated that frankly he was disappointed that the Town ,% Board did not act on the PUD one way or the other. The Plan- ing Board may not be prepared to tinker with the Zoning Ordin- ance to achieve the Town Board ' s desire . The Town Board has tabled the issue and given the Planning Board 60 days to develop : , a new use to the zoning ordinance. Dan said they could create a Special Permit making it allowable using the definition of the - social club using Section 1 of Article IV. Then it should come . to the Planning Board not the BZA. The question was raised should all Special Permits be rewritten? David asked that if the American Legion problem didn' t exist here and the topic came up for consideration would you put it in Residential? Dan responded that he would probably have to look around and see what other districts have done . Dave mentioned that his office had alot of zoning ordinances kicking around and 1 he checked into it . They were all over the lot . The village of Lansing kept it out of Residential and put it in the low impact business zone. The Town of Lansing has a Rural . Agricultural zone. The Rural Agricultural zone allowed it but not the Rural Residen- tial . (Town of Ulysses has fewer categories than the other dis- tricts . ) David shared his thoughts on how important it is to look at the concept . If the American Legion didn ' t exist , but the Planning Board had been advised that they needed to be prepared for a similar situation where exactly would it be placed? That ' s the quandry the Planning Board is in. . . Dan asked pave about the letter Alex Rachun received from Helen McLallen (private citizen) that David had copies of . David stated he had not had an opportunity to read it . (Everyone was given a . copy of it . ) Dan asked David what he would consider the property from the Town Village line out to Gregg ' s . Did he think it was Residential or Rural/Agricultural/Residential . He said to really consider it, not just looking at the road frontage but also the size of the lots , the density and amount of agriculture. Is there some clear I cut definition of what Residential is queried Dan? Dave stated that that was a good question. He ' s more concerned with what the developing trend is , not what is there now. One house per 10 acre lot may not constitute a true Residential stated Dan. Dave said his definition would be based on two things . 1 . What is there now? 2 . What has been the trend in the recent period? Is it an area that is going into Residential or is it an area that is going to stay Rural/Agricultural . He said there has been an increase in Residential where the American Legion wants to go but as you go 5 4 . Town of. Ulysses 3 . Planning Board Meeting February 22, 1993 • further out it peters out to Rural/Agricultural . If more Resi- dential goes in there what is the impact of water and sewer contamination on the surrounding properties asked Dan. Isn ' t there more impact form a greater number of smaller parcels Il than just one large parcel? Dave responded that that is the Health Department ' s area of expertise and that their rules are very stringent . Dan disagreed stating that a lot of things blamed on agriculture is actually coming from residential . Dave thought that probably applied to older neighborhoods . Dan said there is a world of difference between a house sitting on a 1 acre lot as opposed to a house sitting on a 10 acre lot . That ' s •• a choice made by the individual as to how much land they want surrounding their home stated David . Dan wondered if that would • have a different application in the Zoning Ordinance though. In other words would a larger lot make it fall into a different Residential section? Should they differentiate? A member of the audience said that that has been addressed . It ' s called "Charac- ter of Neighborhood" . David ' s gut reaction (after driving out , and looking over the area proposed for the American Legion) was that the trend was toward Residential . Curry Road houses appear to be of a more recent vintage, with a few older homes; further • out he didn' t have that feeling. Unfortunately they do not have the benefit of a master plan. Dan Smith said that he felt that they should not have to split the Residential into two sections . David disagreed and felt that it should have been addressed a long time ago. By allowing • things to happen without a plan it becomes ad hoc. A master plan is needed . . The first issue (forgetting the American Legion ) is where would you place this? Dan responded a lesser density Residential . After discussing philosophically the ramifications of not having gradations in the Residential Dan changed his position stating that he had not really thought it all through and that perhaps . • David was correct. It was agreed that it might be a good idea to check out the other munincipalities and do some comparisons . In continuing the discussion on Residential David suggested . having a general clause that states any use not mentioned spe- cifically ought to have a classification to head off problems . A gentleman in the audience wondered who would define the usage? He felt the American Legion falls under the restaurant use now. David agreed that it was at least analogous, it was an entity , that serves the public, or a segment of the public. David stated that he would like more input . Alex Rachun unfortun- atley will be away until the 15th of March. When questioned Gregg • • felt he wasn ' t prepared to offer any suggestions . Rudd stated that Krys ' s ideas night prove to be too cumbersome. Dan said that Not-For-Profit isn ' t even mentioned in the Business District . • David questioned whether there should be a distinction for Not-For- Profit organizations . He felt that wasn ' t really the issue . The issue is what is the impact of this social club in the com- munity (on roads , character of neighborhoods , etc. ) . As Krys had stated earlier to David Not-For-Profit organizations still have to meet all the required building codes, health and safety requirements . They are not exempt. It ' s important to evaluate , what this particular thing will do to the community. Dan said you have to define it in the Zoning Ordinance. David queried Budd did ' he like the idea of doing it quick and dirty with the existing Zoning Ordinance and placing it in a B1 or B2? Budd said that ' s . an option. David asked if he should bring in the ordinances from the other • Town of Ulysses 4 Planning Board Meeting • • February 22, 1993 municipalities? It was agreed he should . Briefly looking through the Village of Lansing it was discovered that they called it an indoor recreation club and it was classified as a High Density Residential . David felt the easiest way with what they have on the books would be with a B1 or B2 . A general • catch all would be placed in the ordinance for the required • definition. Dan suggested that the divided Residentials be specific as to what could not go in there. The next Planning Board meeting will be March 15, 1993 at 7: 30 P.M. at the Town Hall . • Tom Reitz stated that another issue that the Planning Board was asked to address was the B2 Zone for Pleasant Grove . • David had received no communication on that issue. They ap- plied for a PUD awhile ago. The Town Board would like the • Planning Board to consider this a B2 Zone. Tom said he 'd make sure all the information was gotten to David and members of the Board . Budd asked if they had withdrawn their PUD . application. Tom replied no. David wants to resolve the social club issue before moving to the Pleasant Grove project. David mentioned that the New York State Office of Rural Affairs is having a conference on planning board activities on the 21st of April at TC3. The fee is $10.00 per person. • David asked if the Town Board would consider sending 6 or 7 members? Tom said he ' d recommend that the Planning Board attend it if possible. The mock planning board meeting would • be useful . The Town Board meets on the 2nd Tuesday of the month. The Master Planning Board will probably be having a meeting soon and David recommended all attend that could. Tom Reitz mentioned that County Planning is looking at things more closely, and that they are no longer a rubber stamp operation. They' re going through a transition now in their re-location from the Biggs Building to the Old Court House . • David entertained a motion to adjourn . Dan Smith made the motion, Budd Stover seconded. There was no discussion, the motion passed. The meeting adjourned at 9: 15P.M. • • 1 • • i TOWN OF ' .,YSSES ZONING HOARD OF APPEALS TOWN HALL MARCH 1 , 1993 PRESENT: Chairman Gail Zabawaky; Board Members present: Carl Mann and George Tselekis; Secretary: Rox- anne Smith Chairman Gail Zabawsky called the meeting to order at 7: 55 P.M. Those present had arrived by 7 : 25 P.M. Loren Ham- mond, or anyone to represent him railed to show. Mr. Ham- mond had requested a variance under Article II Section 6 of the Zoning Ordinance for the purpose of building an addit- ion to a residence. A motion uas called to open and close the meeting. The motion was seconded , motion passed. The meeting was adjourned at 7 :55 P.M. I I TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD '!FETING March 9 , 1993 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis , Robert Weatherby; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . • • Others Present : Julie McComb/ Interlaken Review, Kevin Roemer, Ruth Kahn. Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7 : 30pm and led those in attendance in the ® Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America . Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover to approve the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of February 9, 1993 . Unanimously approved. Report : Trumansburq Fire Department Fire Chief Kevin Roemer reported to the Board. Mentioned that he is working with Enfield and Ithaca to provide coverage when the bridge work on RT 96 is being done . Also will be starting the budget process shortly; would like to know what the Town expects in way of services . Presently the Town is paying for fire protection. Will put together a list and get it to Mr. Hogan. The Fire Department and Fire Company are two different entities. . . the Fire Company is personnel , which are all volunteers . Without personnel , the Village would have the Fire Department; ie: the building and fire trucks . The Fire Company runs strictly on donations; also supply equipment for the • ambulance. Presently do not bill for ambulance services to • individuals; do receive some donations from folks who use the ambulance but doesn' t cover actual expenses . Was suggested to Mr . Roemer that a news item be written for the Free Press so that people know that donations are appreciated. Mr. Roemer said they rn hesitate to get into billing people because every five years or so have a fund drive to purchase a new ambulance and people respond very nicely to that . The Fire Company raises the money and then sells it to the Village for a dollar. Very costly to train EMT's. Bangs ambulance is coming to the area quite a bit now because we don' t have the number of people we once had. They charge about $200 ./base charge per call . Also the Fire Company needs to have physicals for all personnel (73 members) , equipment per fire fighter runs about $1, 500 . ; all this is very expensive . • Report : Representative James Mason Absent . Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #58-94 in the amount of $24, 430 . 29, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover. Mr . Hogan Aye Mr . Reitz Aye • Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye 1 Approved. Supervisor' s Financial Report • Not available. 1 .i . '. , ...J,' •'r4I �r.:�� '' :: - D� 1� :c:•n . r �6 'S.i.� .r(..;� r j .1: 'rA:.vi,�:;:�4 . .�:. .t ' tof Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting March 9, 1993 Hearing of Delegations/Individuals- None OLD BUSINESS Report : Association of Towns Meeting • Mr . Curtis reported on his trip to New York City . Was a good • meeting, felt it was worthwhile, met a lot of people. Described III how the Association of Towns deals with resolutions . CHIPS was discussed; general feeling was that CHIPS will continue at its current level . Was some discussion about increasing the amounts that go to Towns . Retirement Fund received a lot of attention. • Impact fees passed. Delinquent tax notices was a hot topic. . . revenue was brought in with that which goes to the municipality rather than the Counties . Spoke with other municipalities to see how they financed attending this yearly meeting; Groton has a $500. cap per person for as many people who want to attend; many municipalities send multiple representatives ; there are many meetings , more than one person could attend and benefit. Good information, contacts , very worthwhile. Street Lighting Mr. Hogan said lights are in by Shur Save and working. Bill received will be paid by Town and then billed to Jim Seafuse. Regarding request for a light on RT 96 and Seneca Road, Mr. Meeker spoke with rep from DOT who will look into it and get back to the Town with a recommendation. Zoning Maps The Board looked at the maps . They aren' t complete as yet , but working on them. Fish/Game Club Mr. Reitz asked about late evening shooting. Received another complaint from resident . Mr. Hogan said he will contact the • officers of the Club and ask that shooting not go on after • 8 : 30pm. Health Insurance/Justice Mr. Curtis asked about health insurance for the Judges; Mr . Hogan suggested this topic be covered in an Executive Session. Workman's Compensation Mr . Curtis asked if Mr. Hogan had investigated charges for Workman' s Comp with Farrell-Messler. Mr . Hogan said he checked on the charges . Have the list of classifications and was told that these are set by NYS. Mr. Meeker indicated that the Village rates had also drastically increased in this area. Mr. Hogan said he is satisfied that the bill is correct . NEW BUSINESS None REPORTS Town Clerk: Mrs . Mount reported that $3,095 . 42 was collected for • I' : Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting March 9 , 1993 the month of February of which $2926 . 32 was turned over to the Supervisor . Zoning updates are still being worked on. New house numbering updates have been completed and mailed, Tax Collector : Mrs . Mount reported that the total for year to date collected $1 , 126, 550 . 20 ; month of February collected " $138 , 450 . 62 ; total interest for month $138 . 85 turned over to the Supervisor . Paid $32 ,000 . to TC Budget/Finance in February . Two hundred seventy-three bills still open for a total of $308 , 508 . 19 . Second notices will go out before April 26th. Highway Superintendent : Mr . Meeker reported that there has been a lot of plowing, salting, helped the Village with water break, hauled stone. Borrowed vehicle from State Park to remove couple • of broken branches on Garrett Rd. Board Members : Mr . Reitz had several items : 1) attended Planning Board to discuss American Legion. . . four Board members present; will meet again 3/15 for further discussion. One of the ' Board members has not been actively present and perhaps we should consider a policy that we discussed before. . . if miss three meetings ask for resignation. 2) last night Village had a meeting; was suggested to have a Joint Town/Village meeting regarding consolidating Zoning/Building offices under one roof . Would like to meet 3/22/93 at 8 : 00pm. Mr . Hogan said there had been something mentioned that Doug would do all the Village work and Alex would do all the Town work . All Town Board members agreed to the meeting. 3) represented Trumansburg/Ulysses Youth • Commission. . .Eleanor Roosevelt award was given to the County and each municipal commission committees were recognized. Distributed copies of the tribute for the Board. 4) Inter- municipal Recreational Committee - four areas to ask the Board • about : a) what would your municipality like to see this group • accomplish?, b) what age group or groups should we target? , c) should non-profit providers be included? , d) should municipalities outside the school district be included? Board responded: a) reasonable fees should be considered, check other programs , b) ages 6-18 , c) no, d) focus on kids in the Ithaca School District that live in other municipalities . Mrs . Stover : talked with Solid Waste, at this time Town Hall cannot put out a tub for recycling . Mr. Reitz asked if it would be possible to have Solid Waste bring up a truck load of green bins to the recycling center on a Saturday, advertise it in advance, and sell them to those residents who need them. One time only . . . thus residents , new and old, would be able to get them locally. Correspondence: Mr. Hogan received the following: appoint someone for EOC; Village sign ordinance; Annual Report/Board of Elections ; Cooperative Extension; Red Cross; Commonwealth Electrical Inspectors; State Aid to Local Govt ./Report ; SPCA; NYS Office of Rural Affairs ; TC Comptroller; TC Planning Board. Mr. Hogan reported that he had ordered a new, heavy-duty residential storm door for the front door . Also, after speaking to the furnace repair man, have ordered three ventilator which will be installed in the office doors . Will help with circulation. Hearing no further business Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn to Executive Session to discuss Health Insurance for the Judges , moved by Mr . Curtis , seconded by Mrs . Stover, unanimously approved the Board adjourned at 9 : 30pm to their Executive Session. Respectfully submitted, Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting • March 9, 1993 • Paula J . Mount Deputy Town Clerk . Pm • • • 3? r.. TOWN OF ULYSSES • PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH 22 , 1993 . TOWN HALL 7 : 30 P.M. Present : Chairman David Tyler , Members : Krys Cail , Richard --- Garner, Gregg Hoffmire, Geraldine Keil , Dan Smith, • M. Budd Stover; Zoning/Building Officer, Alex Rachun and Secretary : Roxanne Smith Others present : Charles Oaks, David McLallen and Mark Corl . Ben Curtis arrived at 8 : 30 P.M. . Chairman David Tyler called the meeting to order at 7: 37 P.M. Dan Smith made the motion to approve the minutes • from February 22 , 1993. Gregg Hoffmire seconded . All were . in favor. David mentioned that in the future there was a request for a subdivision being submitted though he had not received any information on it . Also the Pleasant Grove PUD is wait- ' ing for consideration . . He then turned to the letter originally addressed to Alex Rachun from Helen McLallen on the American Legion matter. Everyone had received a copy. (Helen is the daughter of the McLallens who live across the road from the proposed location for the new American Legion site. ) She called a planning . specialist in the state department and he said they ' d view the American Legion as commercial because of the activities. Dan stated he didn ' t place much stock in the letter as the ' • information could be twisted around . . • David requested the members to focus their discussion on • the alternatives before them concerning the social club use in the Town of Ulysses . The PUD (for the American Legion ) is on hold and the Town Board asked the Planning Board in Feb- .. ruary to consider the broader zoning issue . The following are . the alternatives: 1 . Create a new category of use and define • where to put it. A) A1low it ip Residential by Special Permit or B) Business District only or some combination of that . 2. Create two or more Residence Zones and allow a more intense use zone (addressed a couple of months ago) . , • 3. Defer the issue until the Master Plan Committee can reco- - mend fining the Zoning Ordinance ' s deficiencies. ' . Gerri inquired about the Trumansburg Fairgrounds and what . category it was considered. Dan said "D" , Public Park. Gerri . mentioned that camping was allowed . Dick wondered why Gerri mentioned it? Gerri stated she was trying to come up with a ' model that was closest to the American Legion. She thought of the Fairgrounds as a place where people gathered (sometimes outside ) . Krys asked (looking through the Zoning Ordinance) is there a legitimate distinction made between whether the business is operated on a commercial basis or a not-for-profit basis (non- commercial) ; and isn' t that in a way defining an attribute of • the owner, not of the use? Is a legal precedent being made? • David didn ' t know but likened what the Board had suggested was trying to put new wine in old bottles. Dan said something has got to be changed there really wasn ' t a way to make it fit many things into what ' s there . Dick said the issues that were raised they 've been over again and again. It ' s the same old thing. Are we trying to do the impossible? David asked what would the Board say to ammending the Zoning Ordinance to say . not-for-profit social club is permissible for use in a Residen- tial Zone? Dick said the Zoning Ordinance was a fine document • 3y ''. • TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH 22 , 1993 •• when there was no growth, but perhaps it has outlived its use- . fulness . Now that change is occurring the American Legion is a symptom of things to come. David said that if the Town Board . had elected to vote on the PUD and voted it down before sending it back to the Planning Board it would be a different matter. The PUD is still on the burner . Gerri brought up the question what is the function of the Planning Board? Are we just the "yes" people for the Town Board? Is that what we are expected to do when they don ' t like what we advise? Dave responded that when we sent it back to them we asked them to tell us what they wanted us to do. They said something like "consider something like a Special Permit . " Dick queried where does the whole issue of planning come into this? Krys agreed with Budd ' s point (from the previous meeting) that the idea of using special permits could have the potential of being very cumbersome . Dick said there is no sort of plan as to how these special permits are acted on . Dan said this takes it back to what was discussed earlier, splitting the Residential into two zones (regarding intensity) . Regarding future use a larger building would fit into the higher density Residential . If the business failed the building wouldn ' t be out there, it ' could be used for apartments Krys said . She also felt that Alex' s point was well taken concerning multi-family dwellings . They are out there but with no formal plan for location; and there are more than you realize . Budd queried whether a social club was possible for it to fit into a B2? Everyone agreed it could fit in a B1 or a B2 . There is a time limit on how late it could remain open however . David stated that by all agreeing on a B1 or a B2 alternative number 3 can be eliminated (deferring the issue ) . Dick asked what happens if we send it back with a B1 or . B2 recommendation? David said they could do what they want . They've already approved B2 zones . They ' re going to be bring- ing another B2 zone proposal to us very shortly. Alex stated the B2 that needs to be looked at is a request from Planning and Development . It is within the task of the Planning Board and Town Board to look at it not only as a PUD but as another function. If it comes in as a PUD and goes out as a PUD you run the risk of spot zoning. If it comes out as a B2 it could eas- ily fit into some sort of Comprehensive Plan. He was not too concerned with the constraints of the property being one prop- erty owner as he was with the Auble property. How close is the old drive-in to this property inquired Krys . About two miles said Alex. The drive-in area was com- mercial, they then requested to be a mobile home sales lot , which is not allowed in B1 . It went from Commercial to PUD. It is inactive because the owner has had hardship. Most PUDs don ' t go in with a timely nature. The PUD goes with the land not with the person if the property is sold . Alex had to leave to attend another meeting ( 8 :05P.M. ) . Budd said let ' s give the Town a list of possibilities . Dick said he supports a B1 or a B2 . (Since they currently don ' t have anything else. ) One of the things we thought we were creating in the B2 was a low impact, semi-commercial district in the Residential area . One of the things we pur- posely zoned out of that area was this type of a social club. We were not looking for a bar . We made a big point of that. Now the Legion would fall there. I think B2 isn ' t a good place, stated Gerri . Dan agreed that that was a good point . Ikagunninassniaramainseanneramannal ;,.. . i 0 • • 'i, TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH 22 , 1993 . Do we all feel uncomfortable putting a social club in a Residential area carte blanche queried Dave? If we did it by Special Permit stated Dan. Who do you want to look at the Spec- ial Permit asked David? I think then it ' s like taking "D Day" and pushing it further down the road; letting it be someone • . else ' s headache . I remember Ben Curtis saying he didn ' t like deciding it separately every time. That it was a lot cleaner • if you just set up the conditions . It takes it a little bit more away from this sense of whom somebody is . If you fit the criteria , go ahead . If you don ' t- sorry, stated Krys. One of the things I would like to ask the Legion is if they ' re still interested in this one particular site stated Gerri . That shouldn ' t be the issue said Dave. We would not feel the pres- sure then said Gerri . r Not every social club is a bar stated Krys . (The YMCA • or Masonic Temple for instance . ) Let it go in a B1 or B2 then leave it up to the individual club whether they wanted to ad- here to the time limits . The limiting factor for the Legion in B2 would be the hour of closure said Dan. The Board arrived at a consensus that B1 is appropriate . for a social club. B2 would be allowed if they abide by the hour, otherwise they need a Special Permit. Outdoor assembly is allowed (just as in a public park) . It will not be allowed in Residential, even by Special Permit (as the Zoning Ordin- ance stands today) . When looking at Residential Krys found it sketchy in • places . She would like to see larger buildings limited in • Residential (perhaps keeping them to 10,000 square feet {oot- I pnhf ) . The Residential needs to be rewritten. Dave said if we rewrite it the question is where is it going to go? The Master Plan Committee needs to be inspired about the importance • of what they are doing, they can be urged along. David thought the maps were pretty good, they just need to be refined . At this point in the meeting Alex returned ( 8 : 25 P.M. ) . Krys wondered how the water extensions , fit into all of this . If you have a water extension that is the place where , • you ' ll end up with a multi-unit or a social club. Dick felt this was an excellent point. The Town is going to have to address water. You have to decide where to cut off the higher densities stated Dan. More than likely your higher density • Residentials are going to be on the edge of the Village. r • Alex stated that zoning is being created without a Master Plan ( if the Residential is split ) that the Board is going outside of the framework. Originally he felt that this was something that should come out of a Comprehensive - Plan . You have to work with some tool provided- generally that is a Master Plan . The zoning applies to the Master Plan. Now you are just dealing with it much like a PUD. David said we can come up with the categories but we can' t tell the Town Board where to put them. Alex said there are some logical things in our Town. There are logical major arteries, places where water can happen, logical flat areas that are amenable • to development . He did not say to not proceed . Many of the multi-units are at the south end of town. The major arteries have them. David said that we could look at the present - usage and let that define it. We are doing a pre-empting of the Master Plan . Alex stated that the Board would not be creating something above and beyond what the Master Plan would • show, just one zone with allowable uses . Nothing out of the • ,. 34 TOWN OF ULYSSES 4 • PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH 22 , 3.993 ordinary would be created . David said that re-defining and expanding would take place . Krys stated that she would like to see the Special Per- - mit uses more stringently defined so that there would be places allowed by right not by each and every one of them hay- ing to go through the application process . There ought to be a place in zoning for cemeteries for instance. David came back to alternative number two for the Board to consider . Rewrite the Zoning Ordinance with at least two • tiers in Residential . Some zoning ordinances make the dis- tinction between an indoor and outdoor social club. If a social club were like a fish and game (hunting) club then you ' d want it to be outdoor said Krys . Alex inquired as to whether anyone had seen the new maps . David said yes . Alex said the highest density is along the lake. The second would be found on Rt . 96. Krys mentioned the trailer park would constitute higher density. David mentioned item number two again, if in Residential what conditions would apply? He answered at least two tiers , with the Master Plan Committee input to locate the tiers . Krys suggested implementing an artificial time limit. Gerri stated the Master Plan Committee was still a long way from having the tiers located . Alex reiterated that the Master Plan Committee would come up with the Comprehensive Plan and the Planning Board would recommend zoning to the Town Board . David said that a time limit is reasonable. Ben Curtis made the comment that there is pressure to • bring this issue to closure. The Town Board recognized that the zoning was deficient . Would it be possible to handle the concerns in the short run, Residential with Special Permit conditions? You could work with this until some sort of zon- ing is adopted that will provide the two tiers of Residential . Give us something in the short run. Gerri stated that the Board felt Ben was asking for something very specific though he was phrasing it in very unspecific terms. Dick said he felt that there was not a deficiency in the Zoning Ordinance but that the deficiency was that there was not a Comprehensive Plan - available. One way to expedite this would be for the Town Board to hire a planner stated Krys . • Alex said there are others who are out there that have been waiting even longer than the American Legion. Now we ' re getting down to stifling growth in the Town said Dan . Ben asked if this group each got a copy of the North Creek Master Plan, everyone said yes . Ben said he understood the Board ' s discomfiture with the Special Permit . He also agreed with Krys that the land should come and go, and people should know what they could do with the land and what they could not. What he is asking is, is there something that could bridge them into the future and to look at it as a bridge . If we put the Special Permit into use now it doesn' t mean that it has to be part of the Comprehensive Plan. The thing that is particularly con- fusing to Ben is the broad range of the use of the social club. (From Newhart ' s Lodge, the Legion, Masonic Temple, Conserva- tory, etc. ) His hopes are that people could identify their concerns and then these limits could be stated in the Special Permit . The problem with the Special Permit said Dave is once you 've made the legislative determination that this could be in a particular area by permit you have a very hard time keeping it out . Krys reiterated to Ben that large buildings concerned ;. TOWN OF ULYSSES 5 PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH 22 , 1993 • her, second uses down the road become very limited . Owners would have a rational for use variance claiming hardship. Could the size of the building be limited queried Krys? Ben said it didn ' t bother him. David asked if the Board wanted to vote on each point individually. They agreed . Point number one, 131 appropri- ate for a social club. All were in favor. Point number two ,. B2 appropriate for a social club with a Special Permit to stay open beyond 11 :00P.M. Again, all were in favor. (Budd queried would outdoor activities be allowed? It was decided it would be allowed as it was in Residential . ) Point number three not in a Residential Zone even by Special Permit under the present ordinance . Discussion ensued . If you vote no on this you won' t even consider putting this in as a stop gap measure queried Dan? Does everyone understand this he asked? Everyone assented . Gerri asked if everyone says yes to this they are saying no to the Special Permit. That ' s right said David . Everyone voted yes but Dan. (The vote was 6 to 1 on u point three. ) Ben said he ' s very uncomfortable, and the Town may be on shaky ground when no action is taken. A decision is being made in a sense. People should not be put on hold . Alex said that he has a revised Zoning Ordinance that is just sitting there collecting dust . There is a lot of pressure in his of- fice. Ben asked for a definition of the social club. Krys • said we don' t define most things. The distinction we have come to is outdoor versus indoor, profit versus non-profit said David . Krys stated that she really wanted to get away from the distinction of profit versus non-profit, wondering if that was a legitimate way to make a decision. David agreed saying that it being based on tax status really wasn ' t a valid distinction for intensity of use . Ben said if we have a defin- ition that applies to the Legion and Richard ' s then we ' re not getting very far. David said that there are no definitions in the Zoning Ordinance. The basic problem is the Ordinance it- self. You ' re asking for a special piece of legislation. Ben said there seems to be a distinction between the Legion and say a restaurant. David said, When the Town Board sent it back to us and said okay look at the Zoning Ordinance, I had a real problem with "Look at the Zoning Ordinance for the American Legion" which is what Ben is now asking us to do. We came back with where it is appropriate but you want us to say some- how it ' s appropriate in Residential . Dick said there is not a deficiency in the Zoning Ordinance that it is allowable in B2 . it ' s when they become too big (social club) and want to erect a building that it becomes an issue. So, it ' s not the club, but the intended use that becomes the issue. Krys concurred saying it ' s not the club but the definition of the use . David said it ' s not the tax status it ' s what the impact is in the neighborhood. Krys inquired whether the Planning Board would be receiv- ing anything about the Pleasant Grove PUD. Alex said no, the original PUD was taken back, hut the material was left. They didn ' t formally withdraw it , but they sat on it under the real- ization the Town was having problems with PUDs legally . The B2 was something the Town was looking at . To disagree with Ben there was a legal brief submitted to the Town Board stating to change zoning for the benefit of one individual is spot zoning and that it would be pertinent to the Town Board to look at • 31. TOWN OF ULYSSES 6 PLANNING BOARD MEETING MARCH 22, 1.993 more than one spot. I remember the Town Board stating in the - Preamble to that 132 that there were two other spots they were looking at , be it Halsey House that went in as a Special Permit by the Board of Zoning Appeals and the Andre property (Pleasant Grove) . Those were the two. At least there is a history al- ready established . They have submitted an application. The application does not establish the use, it ' s the approval of the application that establishes the use stated Dave. They stop- ped the process and then asked if they could get it in as a B2, Alex said . He advised that they wait until after the initial B2 (Auble B2 ) then we' ll look at this one. The Halsey House has been taken care of, so has the Auble and this one has been left in limbo. If he makes a formal request here again we are responding to a single applicant so I told him to wait as we were going to be looking at that anyway. There is a documented history that here is a parcel we ' re going to look at as a B2 . At the last meeting Tom Reitz said he ' d be getting us information. Nothing has arrived . David suggested that everyone meet with the Master Plan Committee on Tuesday night, March 30th, to try and pull this all together. Then the next Planning Board meeting will be two weeks from tonight. The first and third Mondays of the month will be the regular meeting nights for the Planning Board. (It was decided by consensus that it would be helpful to the public and the Board members to regularize meeting nights. ) The next meeting is April 5, 1.993. The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 P.M. • 37 TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TUESDAY, MARCH 16, 1993 ` TOWN HALL 7 :00 P .M. Present : Chairman, Cary Myers ; Committee Members : Judy ., Cone , Ruth Kahn , David Laurie, Carl Mann Jr. , Joanne Molino, David Tyler and Secretary: Rox- anne Smith. Chairman Gary Myers called the meeting to order at 7 : 10 e. P.M. Gary requested everyone introduce themselves ao there were new members present and many months had elapsed since the last Master Plan Committee meeting . The new members originally had applied for the available Planning Board position . More applications were received than positions available . Through the interview process these new members if expressed interest in the Master Plan Committee and were eventually appointed to it. ee Gary said a lot of basic background has been completed in history, utilities , agriculture, open space, village, and school and is included in the Master Plan Draft 3 from June 22, 1991 . He requested that 7 copies be made and dis- tributed to new members before the next meeting. Roxanne' e. will get the copies to everyone. Gary continued by saying that the Committee could do a lot of conversing and spec- ' ulating about where things should qo but without an existing . zoning map they could not go much further. Gary stated that the debate exists over whether the Comprehensive Plan should ee be general or specific. From Gary' s own experience in com- prehensive plans the information is much broader and general . All the Committee is responsible for is laying the foundation • for various development. The Planning Board and Town Board :it I deal with specifics . David Tyler said that the Town Board is responsible for re-zoning. David stated that several copies of a land use plan for a little town up in the Adirondaks was left in the Mas- ter Plan basket for everyone to consider. (David Tyler is • the Chairman for the Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses . ) He gave Committee members a little background on what the Planning Board has ahead of them and their needs of the Com- mittee. Out of the Planning Board ' s deliberation over the Auble parcel they recognized a desire to keep the Village • the center of commerce in the Town of Ulysses . The B2 came • into being to keep the Auble area a light dute commercial. district . The Pleasant Grove Ded and Dreal:frist had submitted a PUD application. The Town Board would like the Planning Board to consider this as another B2 which David Tyler isn ' t com£ort::.ble with. No real input has been received to consider this though. The Zoning Ordinance needs to he updated . The Planning Board did not recommend the American Legion PUD. ' They sent it back to the Town Board . The Tewn i?oard sent it back and asked if the Planning Board would consider ?mmending the 'aoning Ordinance to put soenechinc, like the Legion in it Residential Zone with a Special Permit. One of the Planning Board members suggested having more than one Residential ;;one . Perhaps one could have e higher intensity, tut who should . • decide where they go? The Planning Board needs a road map stated David . Gary stated that "genera) " could pertain to an area , not a specific parcel . Then you would not have to re-zone the entire area (:,s that changes property values ) . rho Comprehensive Plan could state that in a certain area a parcel - may he considered to be re-zoned as it meets the guidelines stated . 3V • TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING MARCH 16 , 1993 • It was the general feeling of the original Master Plan Committee that the Village was a hub and that it should be kept that way. The Village Board has not shown an interest in the Committee and has not shown up at any of the meetings . If you look at the Village ' s Plan it is basically an exist- : . ing land use, not changing anything within the Village. They point to pieces outside , surrounding the Village. If it is already Residential it ' s okay to add more. Auble is already zoned , Seafuse (Shur-Save) is there, we' ll let these be the expansion of Commercial but the Village does not provide • water or services to help them. David Tyler said the Village has trouble with their infrastructure . Down the road they are expecting some big capital expenses with their water system. Carl said they 've never been bashful about raising the rates . Down the road • that may not be feasible stated David . Judy queried whether any PUD' s had ever been turned down? • • Auble didn ' t want a PUD as he wanted to be annexed to the Vil- lage . David stated that Alex might know better than anyone (zoning/building officer) . Gary stated that there was a consensus that if any of them had been challenged they may well have been turned down (like the American Legion) . • Gary stated that John Czamanski was going to organize all the background material . One way to arrive at the Com- prehensive Plan with such a small committee would be to pro- duce a basic map with different developments highlighted. Next to the various developments would be a list of all the pros and cons gleaned from public input and the Committee. Perhaps 5 or 6 maps would be created originally to narrow it down to the final map, The Committee has been waiting for • these maps to arrive. The process can now begin. David Tyler mentioned an article from the Journal . A pitch that has been around for a long time is that if you increase your commercial development you will increase your tax base and reduce the tax burden on the Residential property owners . He hasn ' t always agreed with that. There is a good argument for keeping farm land . (He handed out copies to members . ) Farm land won ' t necessarily stay Agriculture when pressures come along. Perhaps the Town should be encouraged to make some financial incentives to keep land in an Agricul- tural zone. The purpose of this group is to make recommend- ations and David stated it ' s important not to be shy about it. • Judy mentioned that many people have come to this area who are home based . They are not as interested in the infra- - structure of high retail as perhaps fiber optics . Carl quest- . ioned how these people would increase the tax base as their homes are not commercial businesses . Judy stated that what would help would be what they spend in the community. David stated that change is inevitable if you don' t do anything it ' s going to happen anyway. Why not decide how it will happen? Or, you will get another Long Island stated Joanne. The Committee looked at a copy of the Town of Ulysses existing land use map. One thing that was discovered was there was a difference between the zoning map and the exist- ing land use map because a lot of the land that may be zoned was not actually being used for that . A good example was an TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING MARCH 16, 1993 • area in Jacksonville that was zoned B1 that actually has houses on it . Some spot checking would be done. This is a beginning, stated Gary. Some of this was done based on old information . For instance the Shur Save was not on it . Gary suggested that he will talk to Bill Hogan. He would like 15 colored copies of the map by the next meeting. The next Master Plan Committee meeting will be March 30, 3.993 at the Town Hall at 7:00P.M. The vocabulary must be the same for everyone stated Ruth. We need definitions . Let ' s list the basic recommendations , goals for this group said Gary. David Tyler suggested the following zones : Agricultural, Rural Residential (on large tracts ) , Traditional Residential ( 1-4 acres) , Multi-Family Residential (apartment houses ) , Light Traffic Business, more Intense Business Use (shopping centers ) and Industrial . Gary suggested in preparation for the next meeting everyone take a stab at defining the areas . The meeting was adjourned at 9: 10 P.M. • • .ii :1�' , :� . .,: w i! .1. - l. ...� 1. .b .t \, ., :,. �Y�. r rLC •. q bi... wt '`j: 0140 1 J. o MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TOWN HALL MARCH 30, 1.993 7 :00 P.M. Present : Chairman Gary Myers; Members : Judy Cone, David Tyler, Carl Mann Jr . , Ruth Kahn, Joanne Molino and David Laurie . Zoning/Building Officer : Alex Rachun; • Secretary : Roxanne Smith Audience : Gerri Keil and Budd Stover o Gary called the meeting to order at 7 : 15 P.M. Th, Naps are a good rough draft , though there are lots of errors . Through conversations with Ben Curtis , Alex Rachun and Catherine Stover • he discovered that changes are being made, roads are being added . r- He mentioned that the Committee would like to have input on the changes . Many inequities will be cleared up when everyone is clear on the definitions being used . Alex and Gary were able • to key on two; Residential and Rural/Residential . Rural/Res- idential appears to be five acres or more with a house on it . Anything under five would be Residential . Gary stated the largest inequity was that the Rural/Residential was designated yellow (by the Town) . It would be a better graphic representa- . tion if the Rural/Residential were the same color as the Agri- . . ' cultural/Rural . Those areas would then stand out primarily as Agricultural land with a small house on it. That one change in the color could go a long way in fixing a lot of the problems . There wouldn ' t appear to be as much Residential use as the map currently shows . If we know areas that are Residential and ., are five acres we certainly would indicate so. Judy Cone said the only other area that stood out to her was Steve Weaver ' s 28 acres of Commercial . All of it has been designated Commercial due to the Mobil Station that takes up a- bout 1 acre of use. David Tyler asked about woodlands . How would they be treat- ed? Currently they could be considered Vacant. At the last meeting members interpreted Vacant to mean areas that the Town -, didn ' t have information on. After talking to Alex, Gary says they now are parcels of land someone owns but are inactive and have been overgrown for say ten years and it has reverted . The term Vacant may be inaccurate. David Laurie questioned whether there was any designation on the map for Wetlands . Gary said until an area has actual- ly been tested it won ' t be indicated as such. An individual could purchase land and never realize that it has Wetlands until they desire to build and are told they can ' t, that it has to be tested. The DEC designates very large areas by aerial pic- tures and soil samples . David Laurie lives in Rhode Island a good part of the year. There, Wetlands are considered an - integral part in how the planning of towns take place. He thinks that it would be of special interest in our Town also. Gary said unless it ' s already been designated (large portions ) he does - I not know where the money would come from to do that . Judy said the aerial maps that indicate the Wetlands should provide the designation on these maps . Alex said that the Town has two Wet- land areas designated by the DEC. There are two agencies that - oversee the Wetlands (one Federal , the other State ) . The Army Corp of Engineers at the Federal level go by soil type and permeability. The State level is just DEC. David Tyler said the Feds scrutinize much closer than the DEC. If they suspect land is Wetlands than it ' s up to the owner to pay for all the testing. . ...i.. .. .•. ry .1'`}i•y;"}r a{,i•�C :.r. ,a i0it•e.. . ,i.a �x: :.t ..e•..r d; :`':�h . \ :'t..' ., I: AP1 Master Plan Committee Meeting 2 . • March 30, 1993 Town Hall The discussion then centered on the quadrangle map pro- vided . It was decided for the next meeting that the Committee would have black and white copies of the four quadrants . (Carl said he would be able to make copies . ) The Committee will . break down into four groups, each taking one of the quadrants. Through the course of the work session the groups would ro- tate until everyone had had an opportunity for input on each • H. quadrant . The Committee wouldn ' t necessarily have to use the same colors the County chose, they could use various high- lighters and then border with red marker. (Gary would provide the markers. ) The definitions used may need to be broken down further . . •• • Alex mentioned that the Planning Board is having dif- ficulty with the existing Zoning Ordinance. The Committee , needs to arrive at some sort of framework that they can use . Gerri concurred as there is a lot of pressure on them cur- , rently. She would like to see some sort of list with pro- jections on the growth for the Town. David Tyler shared the dilemma of the Pleasant Grove area that the Town wants them to designate as a B2 . It is south of • the hamlet of Jacksonville. Alex indicated that it is almost • in the center of the Town of Ulysses . It is right on Rt. 96 stated Gerri . The Planning Board has become concerned that this could be considered strip zoning. Alex said Jacksonville • has one commercial property that is viable. The rest is owned by Mobil . The variety stores are outside of the Commercial - zone.zone. Gary said that when he thinks of strip zoning he thinks of every piece of property having a curb cut. With that kind of development there can be a lot of traffic problems . If he I thinks about a Hub (a term really never defined ) he thinks one curb cut, less traffic. Alex said a Hub for the Town of Ulysses could easily be four, 3 , 000 square foot buildings offering a mix of office/retail with one curb cut and contained parking. David Tyler said that the Planning Board feels the zones " are too limited . They will work up the categories for the Committee to plot. • We have sufficient commercial space designated to take care of what our actual needs are, however nobody is building on it . They want it someplace else stated Judy. Economically they may not be able to afford it. The Comprehensive Plan can indicate options where these possible zones could go so that the Planning Board can re-zone it (because the guidelines have been met ) and they won ' t get into trouble said Gary . There is the possibility of reverse zoning if areas aren' t being used for what they ' re zoned for said David Tyler. Gary indicated that the Committee should have a strategy. The members decided that a mission statement was in order. The • goal of the Master Plan Committee is to prepare for the future by: 1 . Maintaining the rural character of the Town 2 . Respect our resources 3 . Provide for balanced growth in the Town of Ulysses • (as opposed to the Community) Alex said there has been a very steady growth of houses since he ' s been here (about 18-20 new homes are started a year ) . ,. , The school population has increased. Ruth indicated it is im- . portant to provide a healthy economy as the population of high •"• school graduates and the 25-34 age group are declining . They are going elsewhere as there isn ' t any opportunity here for them. Alex said that a possible way to plan for the economy is to 0110 ; Master. Plan Committee Meeting 3 • March 30, 1993 Town Hall • . plant the seed in the Town Hoard ' s mind to start orchestra- ting getting the lake property back into the Trumansburg • school district . The whole lake area in the Town of Ulysses - belongs to Ithaca . The Town has never fought it. • The next Master Plan Committee Meeting will be April ® 6, 1993 at 7 :00 P.M. at the Town Hall . Thor :i;eeting adjourned at 9 : 10 P.M. 1 ±INSIMI:LIMINNINIESSIIIIMIesal v.. • , , TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE , APRIL 6, 1993 TOWN HALL H PRESENT: Chairman Gary Myers: Committee Members: Judy Cone , Ruth Kahn, Joanne Molino, Carl Mann Jr. and David Tyler; Building/Zoning Officer: Alex Rachun; Secre- tary : Roxanne Smith. ALSO PRESENT: Budd Stover The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7: 15 P.M. The session is a work meeting to begin to update/correct the existing Land Use Map the County has provided. The color coded map will have some changes made to the definitions also. Carl provided black and white copies of the Land Use Map. The • Committee agreed that when they found they disagreed with the County they would outline the area in red and then color code i it the way they thought it should be. If an entire area is , designated one way (for example Steve Weaver ' s property is Commercial) but in reality only a partial area fits the desig- nation (the Mobil Station) the Committee will outline in red , color code it then add a red dot which would state limited use. The unique natural areas will eventually be on an over- lay. Two sets will be colored up. One set will be for the County, the remaining set will be for the Master Plan Committee. . The color legend is as follows: Outdoor. Recreation and Forest-Dark Green Commercial -Pink • Industrial -Purple Utilities -Black and White Agricultural/Residential -Fluorescent Green Residential -Dark Blue Agricultural/Rural Vacant . . . .-Dull Green Vacant -White (with a check to indi- • ' cate it ' s been examined) Rural/Residential -Light Blue (2 plus-10 acres ) Community Services -Orange Amended land use -Red Outline The Committee did not have the definitions in hand. They pro- ceeded with what they were familiar with, breaking down into two groups . There are eight maps to color code. The lakefront area is so densely populated it was broken down into four maps . The remaining area was broken down into the four quadrant maps . Two quadrants were chosen for the evening to work on. The meeting/work session adjourned at 9: 20 P.M. • • TOWN OF ULYSSES - LAND USE MAP Land Use Categories and Definitions The Town of Ulysses Land Use Maps were prepared based on the Tompkins County Department of , Assessment 1992 Property Type Classification Codes, with corrections as submitted by Town of Ulysses officials. Nine land use categories are shown on the maps. The definitions of these categories follow. Agricultural and Rural Vacant • All lands in the Agricultural property classification. These include productive agricultural land, livestock and products, field crops, truck crops, orchard crops, other fruits, nurseries and greenhouses, and specialty farms. • All lands in the Rural Vacant Land property classification, including abandoned agricultural land and residential vacant land over 10 acres. Residential • All lands in the Residential property classification, except that identified as in the "Rural • Residential" land use category (see below). • All lands In the Commercial property classification identified as apartments, mobile home parks, or camps, cottages and bungalows. Rural Residential • All lands in the Rural Residence with Acreage property classification, which is defined as A year-round residence with 10 or more acres of land; it may have up to three year-round dwelling units. Vacant • All lands in the Vacant Land property classification, except Rural Vacant Land, which is identified as in the "Agricultural and Rural Vacant" land use category (see above). • e. • Commercial • All lands in the Commercial property classification, except > those identified as apartments, mobile home parks, or camps, collages, and bungalows, which are Included in the "Residential" land use category (see above), and > those Identified as storage, warehouse and distribution facilities, which are included in the "Industrial" land use category (see below). • • All lands in the Entertainment Assembly property classification, which includes legitimate theaters, motion picture theaters, auditoriums, and radio and TV studios. • All lands in the Social Organizations property classification which is defined as Elks, Moose, Eagles, and Veterans' Posts, etc., whose primary purpose is social activities for members. • All lands in the Indoor Sports Facilities property classification, which includes bowling centers, skating rinks, health spas, and other indoor sports. • All lands in the > Government Parking Lots > Cultural Facilities > Professional Associations, or > Animal Welfare Shelters property classifications. Outdoor Recreation and Forest • All lands in the Recreation and Entertainment property classification, except those in the Entertainment Assembly, Social Organizations, or Indoor Sports Facilities property classifications, which are included In the "Commercial" land use category (see above). • All lands in the > Recreational Facilities > Private Hunting and Fishing Clubs, or > Public Parks property classification. Community Services • All lands in the Community Services property classification, except lands in the > Government Parking Lots > Cultural Facilities > Professional Associations, and > Animal Welfare Shelters property classifications, which are included in the "Commercial" land use category (see above); > Recreational Facilities property classification which are included in the "Outdoor Recreation and Forest" land use category (see above); and > Roads, Streets and Highways property classification, which are included in the "Utilities" land use category (see below). I. • a' • Industrial • All lands in the Industrial property classification which Includes manufacturing and processing, mining and quarrying, and industrial product pipelines and wells. • All lands in the Storage, Warehouse and Distribution Facilities property classification, which includes fuel storage, grain and feed elevators, lumber yards, and trucking terminals. litililie • All lands in the Public Services property classification which defined, in part, as "parcels used in or as a necessary adjunct to the provision of public utility services," including electric and gas, water, communication, transportation, and waste disposal. • All lands in the Roads, Streets and Highways property classification. • • to .c+�i .'.V.1 :FN•,:i . ,., i • � ' .:�T'•C�: It )S' . "�!'':;t yi' J './ S IC' t ter. , r . ..°. •i: .� '.,)LL•:. j' r TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING APRIL 5 , 1993 TOWN HALL PRESENT : Chairman David Tyler : Members : Gregg Hoffmire, Budd Stover and Richard Garner; Building/Zoning Officer Alex Rachun; Secretary Roxanne Smith. • :._ The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 :45 P.M. There w,?s a review of the minutes from the Planning Board Meeting held March 22 , 1993 . The changes made were to page one, paragraph four, item A. It should read Allow it in • • Residential by Special Permit instead of Do it all Residen- tial by Special Permit . Page three , paragraph four , second sentence , parenthesis should read (perhaps keeping them to • 10, 000 square feet footprint ) instead of (perhaps keeping them to 10, 000 feet per floor ) . Page five, third paragraph • there was an addition of a period and comma to read : Ben • said there seems to be a distinction between the Legion and • • say a restaurant_ David said1• etc. Gregg moved to accept • the minutes as amended; Dick seconded . All were in favor; • • the motion carried unanimously . The Chairman announced that a mock planning board hear- ing will be taking place on April 21 , 1993 . The one hour presentation will be broadcast live via satellite to various locations and after the presentation viewers will be able to question the panel in Albany over a telephone line. This • will take place at TC3 at 6 :45 P.M. , room 245 . The questions and answers will begin at 8 : 00 P.M. The cost is $10. 00 per person. The Town Board will vote for approval April 13 , 1993 . • The meeting ensued with discussion about Pleasant Grove . When the 82 was passed it was suggested that the Ruble Parcel not be the only location . The Pleasant Grove location could be a possible site also . David requested that everyone look at the maps that were provided at the meeting, possibly find- ing alternative sites to locate a B2 . Rudd askedXwho decided where these aF were located in the first place? Alex said they basically came out of Assessment David Tyler read the defini- tion of the B2 . The Preamble to the B2 listed any exclusions . • It is suppose to be less intense than a 131 . Everything that went in after the Planning Board recommendation came in by Special Permit . David posed the question where would you put a B2 if the Town decided they wanted one in another location? Dick asked if a B2 was needed; and if so, could some areas zoned Commercial be removed when the new B2 is plugged in? Alex mentioned there were residences on Rt . 96 that wouldn' t mind having the Commercial status changed . The members per- ' used the maps provided . The roads need to be listed on the map; mylar overlays would be helpful . The Master Plan Com- mittee will color code the four quadrants of the map at their next meeting (April 6, 1993 ) . The Planning Board will use the color key that they arrive at, so everything should be consisk- ant . Alex mentioned that in the B2 there is a request for some light manufacturing . There is no provision for this else- ' where. He suggested the Master Plan Committee might want to consider the visual effect of commercial all up and down Rt . 96 and also the transportation effect . Do they want a 30 mph zone all the way into Ithaca? The possibility of a HUB might be helpful . There are two competing thoughts said David . The first is that Rt . 96 is a high traffic corridor . Second, if you have wall to wall business establishments then you have your basic strip development ; perhaps that wouldn ' t be an upgrading tendency. Jacksonville has a designated Business A COMMERC IAL 5IT65 X PcFeivWNC To THE LANOUSE mAP N TO cou:JTQ Pciwo.1 JG. •."is ._ 'v• .( •:(' `:I•: .:`n .,:} he :.`l: -"e t , l•e!b'•�...•i^r''.:. 4 TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING APRIL 50993 district but people have to park on Rt . 96 said Alex. Dick said perhaps if the B2 is decided on the American Legion is- sue can be resolved at the same time. The Legion has a plan into the Village for remodeling said Alex. Budd queried whether spot zoning could be considered an issue. Alex and he agreed that it would be a good idea to look beyond the parcel . Alex reiterated that they do want to do some light manufacturing (Pleasant Grove) . Dick stated • that it would be very helpful economically if there was a designated industrial park. Alex agreed stating there is a correlation between low tax rate and that type of business . If you built a $100, 000. 00 home in the Village of Lansing your tax rate would be a third of what you' d pay in the Village of • Newfield (because of Lansing ' s larger tax base ) said Alex. The Pleasant Grove Bed and Breakfast will not be part of the B2 said Alex. There is a request in for four 2000 square feet one story buildings. It will start with one building. The buildings will be filled with office, light manufacturing and retail space. (There is 6 . 9 acres total, some plantings would be used for a buffer. ) Jacksonville is not a viable Business district said Alex. What is zoned and what is being used are two different things said David. The idea is that businesses are supposed to generate revenue for our community. If we keep spreading them out we lessen the business density said Dick. There would be no, one stop shopping. Alex agreed and said if there was good Commercial land available you could justifiably tell a developer that they had to go to the desig- nated areas. We don' t have that here (except for Auble ' s par- - cel ) . The 96 corridor will be focused on at the next Planning Board Meeting (April 19, 3.993) . The meeting adjourned at 9: 30 P.M. i ••> ..y. .. 1i 1, r '� _n(•. . , :..:f ;i... 'vim a . � 1,z 46 2. TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING April 13 , 1993 •__ Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine Stover , Ben Curtis , Tom Reitz , Robert Weatherby; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . Others Present : Gail Zabawaki , Phil Colvin, Mr. Bennett , L. Scott , Beach Stover , Bill Dean, Charles Oaks , Don Fairchild , Ruth Kahn, Mr . Wright , Mark Corl , Mary McLallen, David Tyler , Julie McComb-Odyssey • Publications , and others . Supervisor Hogan called the meeting of the Town Board to order at 7 : 40pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to 7. the Flag of the United States of America. •+ Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr . Curtis approval of the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of March 9, 1993 . Unanimously • approved. Report : ,Trumanabura Fire Department No report this evening. Report : Representative James bacon No report this evening. .• Claims ® Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #95 - 136 in the amount of $19, 674. 39; moved by Mr . Curtis , seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved. Supervisor's Financial Report Distributed and reviewed. • Hearing of Delegations and Individual$ None OLD BUSINESS American Legion PUD Request ' Mr. Hogan said that a couple of people had asked if the Board was going to give the public an opportunity to speak at this meeting regarding this issue. Mr. Hogan said that he feel they have had ' way too much time to ponder this thing and the time for speaking and debating are over with. Feels the Board should get on with the vote and get this thing decided one way or the other so that the neighbors as well as the Legion can go on about their III business . Don' t know if all of you (the Board) agree with that statement, so what 's your feeling on that? Do you want to close off comments from the public and vote? If there is some brand new information that we haven' t heard, we'd like to hear it , . other than that think we've heard all the opinions and- arguments on both sides of" this issue. Mr. Reitz said that the only thing he would like to ask. . . David Tyler, Chairman of the Ulysses Planning Board is here and they are working on a follow-up procedure and read through the minutes of their meeting of March 22nd and things weren' t clear. . . can you AWOL 7 ,dig !1A1 Yom\ .r,.:!. �ii .fit. ,,v� r,i: 'ti_ •. r'- i f:��i f .7 .:r ._ :v: Sri YJ :i: � Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 highlight what took place? Mr . Hogan said he asked David• to. come • tonight and clarify the Planning Board' s positiolt :: : " t Mr. Tyler stated that at the Board meeting in early February the matter was referred to the Planning Board for further consideration and one of the suggestions was perhaps considering some sort of Special Permit procedure for what we came down to calling a Social Club. . . rather a laborious term when you are = working with it , but it came down to an organization which we would call a Social Club. The question was . . .we spent one two and a half hour meeting talking generalities and different ways we could approach the thing. . . and the meeting of the 22nd (the minutes of the meeting in front of the Board) we came down to three alternatives . The first alternative was to look at an amendment to this Zoning Ordinance; the thrust of which comes • , from your minutes of the February Town Board meeting, that somehow would a Social Club fit into a residential district . We only have one residential zone in this Town. One of the things we discussed was the possibility of having two or more categories of residential ; a lower density and a higher density type of zone which might accommodate something like a Social Club. The problem was , as a Planning Board we could certainly carve out something like that and then the question is where would you put it . We aren' t at a point where we could make recommendations and I don' t think the Town Board has information from the Master Plan Committee if we had two or three different types of residential zones , where you would locate them at this point and time. We felt that wasn't a viable alternative to get this matter • resolved in the sixty day period that the Board had requested. So at the Planning Board meeting of the 22nd, we looked at what we have in our present Zoning Ordinance. We felt it was important to look at not . . . think there is some feeling that since a not-for-profit organization was involved that should get some special attention. . .we felt that from a Planning and Zoning point of view that the real issue was what kind of propensity of use does the organization propose to the neighborhood; not if it was for profit but what kind of activities was it involved with. We looked at our Zoning Ordinance and said. . . look, we have a B1 zone; would this type of activity interfere with the types of uses that are in a B1 zone. . . in fact we found a lot of very close parallels in a B1 zone. We looked at the B2 zone, which was created about a year ago. In fact there are uses there that talk about assembly, that talk about restaurants and so forth, that are very close to this type of activity that the American Legion carries out at least from the perspective of those around it. We then looked at the residential area and how it would fit into there. So, the net result of our deliberation was , in terms of a Social Club or organization such as the American Legion or something like that, we felt, unanimously, it would clearly fit into a B1 zone. We also felt , unanimously that it would fit into • a 82 zone and of course there was a restriction there; think that there were activities going on between 11 :00pm and 6: 00am there would be a Special Permit process involved, but that was certainly permissible. But , as far as the residential zone, even • with a Special Permit , our decision was 6 to 1 not to recommend • consideration of even a Special Permit process in a residential area. The reason for that was . . . if you elect , and there's a legislative act to say that a particular type of use can go in a residential zone by Special Permit by a legislative determination, certainly you can have certain conditions added on to that, but basically if reasonable conditions are met that particular use can go into a residential zone, any part of the residential zone. We have no differentiation at this point, so we felt it was really unwise to sort of throw the thing wide open t... + 1'..'t i ` a(•h. .0^P),. .':%,i.jY:i.'.. '1':t''�i ...1.• _ ..•i�. ., N4 ,' Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13, 1993 even with a Special Permit process . This has been an issue that our Planning Board has wrestled with for quite some time. I think maybe the whole key to the thing was , if you remember our original approval of the Development District last summer, and the condition was that if it would cease to be the American Legion that it would go back into residential ; and we were told that was an illegal process and that it could not be done and that in fact the Development District is rezoning. I think that is the real issue. . . it came down to whether it was appropriate to rezone, whether a PUD, by • Special Permit or whatever, it was contrary to the general content of our Zoning Ordinance as it now exists . And frankly, that 's where we came down. So the decision was pretty clear; I think at our last meeting, clearly appropriate a 81 or 82 and clearly 6-1 not appropriate, even by Special Permit under our Zoning Ordinance as it now exists . Mr. Hogan thanked Mr . Tyler and the Planning Board for their hard work. He asked the Board where they wanted to go from here. Mr. Reitz . . .David, to follow up your discussion about the Bl, B2 zones ; are any PUD's then appropriate in the Town Zoning Ordinance or this particular PUD request would not be appropriate? Mr . Tyler said our feeling was. . .our decision was last November if you' ll remember, was we failed to approve the thing for a number of technical reasons, one of which dealt with the subject of the particular development district . In terms of resolving this kind of problem, we' re going to be in the process of looking at our residential zone; our own along with being given direction. . . it seems like an issue that keeps coming up. . .we ® really need to refine our Zoning Ordinance a little bit to have more than one type of residential zone and that 's what we are looking at right now. So development districts still have to comply, we are told, with certain zoning requirements; you have to avoid getting into a sort of a trap of getting into what is called a spot zoning problem. . . •• Mr. Hogan asked if anyone would like to make the motion that we accept the Planning Board's recommendation? As you know the Planning Board is an advisory committee, it is up to us to make the decision. Mr . Curtis said he is a little bit at a loss as to what the recommendation is . . .seems to me when we left the last meeting, was with the idea, the last time we discussed this , that Alex would draw up kind of a sample zoning law change that would incorporate a definition for this type of use. Think there was one, basically, and in looking through the old proposed zoning change from a couple of years ago and they apparently recognized this . . . they called it community assembly. The Planning Board would review that and define that and come back with a recommendation or come back to us with a proposal , or something like that . I 'm not sure what it is we' re approving or disapproving. Are you proposing a zoning change of some kind? II/ Mr. Tyler said a zoning change is necessary to really accommodate something like this . . .we've talked about that proposal there before you, that 's fine. . .but you wanted an answer within sixty days and Mr. Curtis appeared before us at this 22nd of March meeting and made a request that we consider something on kind of a stop gap basis to take care of this particular problem; and the problem we dealt with cure was probably worse than the problem and we felt that it was not appropriate even by a Special Permit to try to shoehorn something in a residential zone as a Town of Ulysses 4, 4 Regular Town Board Meeting • April 13 , 1993 residential zone now exists . What needs to happen, I think we. are all aware of it , we need to update our Zoning Ordinance and what you are referring to right there is one of the things that needs to be handled. I think what we are getting back to you and saying from our meeting on the 22nd of March is that under our present Zoning Ordinance there was a concern that there was no place for a use such as this in the Town. . . that is not correct . . .we feel that a reasonable reading of the 82 says that they can fit into a B2 and certainly it is appropriate in a 81 as well . So it' s not like they can ' t exist anywhere in the Town. Perhaps the Town's Zoning Ordinance is a little crude at this point , and with refinement , which would take some time, have a broader application. With the time frame you gave us that was not really appropriate. ,._ Mr. Hogan said then what you are saying is the wording in the Zoning Ordinance right now in the 81 and the 82 would permit this type of organization, a Veteran's organization? Mr. Tyler said especially a B2 which talks about public assembly and talks about restaurants and place serving alcohol and so forth. Those types of uses are clearly the types of things that are involved in an American Legion. Mr. Hogan said that doesn't specifically say Veteran' s Service • Organization? Mr. Tyler said no it does not . We looked at a number of other zoning ordinances , there was nothing as specific as that , almost all of them used the term ' community assembly' , and a more popular term is ' Social Club' , and then sometimes it distinguishes between indoor and outdoor Social Clubs . Those are the types of organizations that are something like an American Legion or a VFW would fit under. The question about trying to come up with a definition for our Zoning Ordinance; there are almost no definitions in terms of . . . it doesn't define what a church is , a school , and so forth and so on. We felt that the term 'Social Club' , get into trying to define that might as well go back and define everything else in the Zoning Ordinance and that 's if they were going hack and starting from scratch, which I don' t think we thought was appropriate. Mr. Hogan said that basically what your recommendation then is that you are recommending that we deny the request from the Legion to build in a residential zone. Mr. Tyler said that came from our decision last November. Our decision last November was we did not approve the development district . Then you asked us to look at this thing from the perspective of the zoning ordinance; and we feel the spirit of it presents no problem with this type of use in a B1 or B2 district; it does present a problem in a residential district for the reasons I have already explained. Basically not having any real specific limitation to put in a residential district with a Special Permit; that we have one residential district in our Town. Mr. Curtis asked if something like a hunting club fall into the definition of a Social Club? Mr. Tyler said I think that 's true and would have to be defined. . . in fact you brought up the question of the Conservatory as another type of community organization and we felt that was quite different . . .it 's really an educational organization rather than a social club type • organization. They give ballet , art , piano lessons , etc. so that 's an educational institution. Think the key to these types of organizations is not whether they are not-for-profit or not , but what type of activities do they undertake which are analogous to other activities that are in the Zoning Ordinance. . . '1 i'"r' hr F,i,'- rv'.. 1»l t !• Y%i'" Lt 01' • 'i' yr: a r. . 'r... . win • Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 • Mr . Hogan asked Mr. Curtis if that answered his question. Mr. Curtis said so there is no proposed zoning change at this point that you are bringing to this Board? Mr. Tyler said not in the time frame we were given. If we came to you with a proposal for , say , two or three different levels of residential , fine, but where would you put them? There's no input to decide whether this area should be low density residential district , if there's a residential district behind it , or residential apartments , and so on. If we brought that back to you it would be something to ponder, you wouldn' t have any way of implementing it, so we didn' t feel that was appropriate to do. Mr . Curtis said with the zoning business sometimes I feel like we have an old car with a flat tire and we keep saying we are going to buy a new car, or we could drive around with a flat tire. . . Mr . Hogan asked Mr. Curtis if he was all set . Mr. Curtis said Yeah, I guess , I still can' t figure out if he's proposing that there be a group called Social Club, and then be permitted in a B1 or B2 or that would be a zoning change. Mr. Tyler said basically you have two alternatives, to look at the development district or look at a minor zoning change which would say a Social Club would be appropriate in a 131 or B2 zone, as kind of a stop-gap thing until we can refine the Zoning Ordinance. There are a number of things missing from the Zoning Ordinance, day care for instance is not provided for . . .there are a lot of different things that are fairly common types of uses that just aren't there. This became kind of one that focused our attention on- things, but certainly there are a number of other types of uses that aren' t specifically allocated in the Zoning Ordinance. 111 Mr. Curtis asked if Alex brought a specific proposal to you that you guys then reacted to? Mr. Tyler said not exactly. . .we had a long discussion with Alex and what we wanted to do was go over it ourselves , what we felt the alternatives were, and around the first week in March or late February, we spent two and a half hours looking at various alternatives and so forth and one of the things was getting into definitions and we started looking at the existing Zoning Ordinance and its total lack of definitions , felt it was- going to' be. . .well , it 's like putting new wine in old bottles'. Mr . Hogan said there is no question about it, we need to update the Zoning Ordinance. The Master Plan Committee is working at that , but what we need to do is take care of the matter at hand. • We have a recommendation. . .well first of all the Planning Board recommended against the PUD in a residential area and then we asked them to take a look at Special Permit basis , and they felt that was too liberal a tool to use, because if you set up some guidelines , anyone who met those guidelines could put any kind of establishment in a residential district . So if my neighbor • wanted to sell his house anybody who met the regulations , the restrictions, of that particular Special Permit, could go in there and put a Moose Club or Sons of Italy or whatever , right next door- to anybody', in any residential area. In any case. . . Mr. Tyler said he ran across a case recently that was a permitted use in a certain district and what the. Board tried to do was put on a lot of conditions and sort of make it impossible and the Court came along and said you can' t do that , you've made a legislative determination for the zone with a special permit and what you've tried to do is rule it out by making impossible conditions, they said that was not permissible. Think if you are going to say that something can go in by Special Permit , think it will go there only if they meet reasonable requirements . . . you ..''; v .. • .. .T r . L .• i.1 •� .. •�':. .. i.I f`. ..ei rf' `I r rr •fM1 Town of Ulysses 6 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 can' t make them jump over hoops and so forth. Mr. Reitz said, David, isn' t it true that the Special Permits are not a criteria for Special Permit in our Zoning Ordinance, per se? Mr . Tyler said as it stands now, that is correct . We've fashioned a very elaborate Special Permit process that still is not going to be a perfect tool because, as the Supervisor said, you are right in the middle of a solid, residential neighborhood and someone sells their house , and if they can meet certain requirements , that could become a Social Club. And the question • becomes , is that appropriate? Seems to me that setting was too broad a clause to achieve a needed goal . What you need to do is to have specific area where something like this would logically fit . Mr. Weatherby said, is this maybe a case of possibly the •• organization applied for a PUD and maybe was misdirected in the proper zoning classifications they asked for or requested? Maybe they should have tried one of these other classifications . Mr. Hogan said he didn' t think so. Mr. Tyler said what do you mean; in a B2 or whatever? Mr . Hogan said this is obviously a case where the land was available at a reasonable price and a lot - of the people felt strongly that it was a good place for it to • go, so that's why they came in with the request . Mr . Weatherby said I am just saying that maybe if they had come with the request for one of these other zones instead of a PUD. . .Mr. Hogan said, well sure, Yeah. Mr . Tyler said there was discussion of that , even in our early review of the PUD last • spring; the parcel up here had just been rezoned B2 , and suggested why don't you consider that and they said it wasn't economically feasible; those issues were presented and discussed and the applicant felt they weren't appropriate. III Mr . Curtis said it wouldn' t fit into that ; there's a provision for indoor recreation, but I believe the Legion proposes indoor • and outdoor recreation. Mr. Tyler said we looked at that and felt that there were things , public assembly and so forth, that certainly would appear, don' t think it would do any damage for an organization like that to be in a B2 zone. The B2 is a pretty broad-based zone. Mr. Curtis asked. . .when you talk about a Social Club, do you include in that , in your discussion, restaurant, bars , and all those social . . .ender that same category? Mr. Tyler said restaurants and private place of business or enterprise, that 's •- what it is . Mr . Curtis said, and a Social Club is not-for-profit or private? Mr. Tyler said if you consider the Conservatory as a Social Club, . I think it 's kind of a misnomer. It 's very different from an American Legion. Think what we came down to is it 's not what you call it it 's what it looks like in terms of other kinds of uses . . . an American Legion looks like something that has outdoor activities, has a lot of indoor activities, a restaurant and bar, people coming and going and so forth, it 's clearly a fairly intense type of use. It 's not something that would fit in very easily into a quiet residential neighborhood. To put something like that , like I said, in the middle of a residential area, would have some concern. Even though the area it ' s placed in is what we would maybe call a rural residential area, it 's still predominately residential and certainly has generated a lot of concern with the people who live there. • '.l. J;. �' .j \ 'j .• 'N 1 �:I�.. ( /� 3 ti::.. ...rp•`�..'rr .,..a t' r: Cr^ Town of Ulysses 7 • Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 • Mr . Hogan. . . are you all set Ben. . . I know you are not happy , and unfortunately we are not going to be able to make everybody happy with the rules we have to work with. But wo need to act on this • thing one way or the other . I will make a motion that we take the Planning Board' s recommendations and we deny the Legion • request for a PUD on RT 227 . Is there a second? No second heard, Mr . Hogan asked the Board's pleasure. • • Mr . Reitz moved that we go back to the Planning Board's III recommendation which they approved 5-1 to approve the development of that Legion on 227 ; extracting out item #6, which our attorney • says may not be legal . Mr. Hogan said OK, there' s a motion on the floor to go back to the original Planning Board recommendation, extracting that one item. . . is there a second to that motion? Mr . Curtis seconded for discussion. Mr. Curtis said with the original recommendation from the Planning Board, with the thirteen items, minus one item, I had some concerns about the landscaping proposal . It was suggested • for example that evergreen seedlings shall be planted and • maintained around the entire perimeter of the property. Of major concern that I heard from- nearby - residents were the_ headlights of cars coming and going and visual impact. I don' t think that . seedlings are .going to do very much- and I would like to propose, under #1 , that be changed to 6' : evergreen trees . Mr. Hogan said I think 6' in height is a little unreasonable, gets to be a .pretty expensive tree; Any other -discussion? What about spot zoning on this whole: issue. . .has ' that gone away? Mr. Reitz said no more than any PUD we've approved before. If the question comes up and it 's spot zoning, we' ll be taken to task for it. : . • Mr. Curtis said that one. thing. . . I think they have a real problem singling this particular PUD out and saying that it should be held to a standard of spot zoning. This hasn't been the practice in the past, it 's inconsistent with what we ' ve done .in the past . When you- have- an .applicant , that . as I read through these conditions , has made, . i - think, .some extraordinary efforts to accommodate the concerns that have been_ expressed at these hearings , and I 've- sat::through other. proceedings of similar types of requests where. there-.has been .very :little .effort to move in the direction of addressing the concerns of people as they have been expressed. . . so I think, to me it would be unreasonable to pull up the standard . at thispoint and. say . that .we should begin to apply it with this .particular proposal ; . • Mr . Hogan said actually, .the reason'. I mention it is because we haven' t had, at least since I 've been here, that much opposition to a PUD request that have come . up over- the years . Here's a request where the .majority. of the neighbors are not comfortable with this particular .use and_ if-:the majority of your..neighbors aren' t going to .be .happy .with you- then- that certainly is a consideration. - The .spot zoning issue has -been: discussed at length; it.'.s a very serious :concern .as: far as I 'm:concerned, spot zoning; If . we ' re going..to make .a decision here and we' re going to possibly spend . the Town .funds . to defend something that looks to be pretty suspect tovbegin- with, I :think it 's kind of irresponsible to -use .Town':money. -. . Mr . Reitz said the spot zoning- issue, I think, was with #6 in there; - and - that 's been withdrawn. . . that removes that potential . Town of Ulysses i 8 Regular Town Board Meeting • April 13 , 1993 • Mr . Hogan said the entire project , not just item 16, the entire project is a concern. Mr. Curtis said in spite of our use of a mechanism of a B2 in the case of the Auble project , I don' t see a great deal of distinction, and quite a lot of opposition was expressed there; but to me an overwhelming difference here, that we have an applicant who appears to me to have listened to what was said and in the limitations that they've been willing to accept in terms of the activity, in terms of the hours that they operate, in k,,terms of the plantings they will be able to do, in terms of the y,` of the building, distance from the road, that they have t> made an effort , which to me is a large part of what this process .. is about , they have made an effort to accommodate the people, which is something I don' t think I found in the other case. Mr. Hogan said I don't disagree with that Ben. I think they have made a supreme effort . What I 'm talking about is the legality of the whole process here, which to me is questionable. Mr . Curtis said as I read our ordinance it seems to me, I 'm quoting from memory without looking it up, but one of the purposes of a PUD was to allow development if it were not provided for elsewhere in the Zoning Ordinance. And I frankly don' t believe that this one is . Also I can' t see that this is a misapplication of the PUD, if there ever was an application. Unless we go to the trouble to define that , and there was a definition of that type of thing in the proposed ZORK Ordinance. . .community assembly which tried to define that . . . and oddly enough their recommendation. . .although we never went • anywhere with this . . . their recommendation was that it be permitted in both business and residential areas with Site Plan Review or it could be a Special Permit , but we are obviously not going in that direction, so I think if we are falling back to the tools that we've used then it 's our obligation to use those tools fairly. And in this particular case seems tone that tthe applicants are exemplary and I can' t see that kley " be penalized in a way when other applicants haven' t been. • Mr. Hogan asked for other comments . Mr. Curtis said the one concern that he has was the issue of the evergreen seedlings , that one I picked up. . . I think there were other concerns about the actual site lay out and areas where there could be some improvement with a reasonable effort on the part of the applicant and I think I would like the opportunity to have a final review of their site plan, when the final one is prepared. Other than that . . . Mr . Hogan said as far as I 'm concerned myself , I 've thought about this long and hard, I have an awful lot of respect for the • Legion, they do a lot for the community, but what it comes down to, it 's not a popularity kind of test , it 's a zoning issue, it 's • a land use issue. If we' re going to have zoning and you tell someone, OK this is zoned residential , if you buy a piece of property here you' re pretty safe because this is residential . And for most people that 's the largest investment they ever make in their lifetime. . .in a piece of property and a home. And then after that person invests that money, you say OOPS, we've changed our mind, we' re not going to allow just residences here, we' re going to put a service organization here, a Social Club. . . it 's going to run a bar and a restaurant . Think what you've done is you' ve lowered the value of that person's investment considerably, cause you' re hitting them right in the pocketbook. To my way of thinking, if you' re going to have zoning, have zoning, if you aren' t , throw zoning out; but don' t tell people one thing and then do something else, I don' t think that ' s fair. • '.g.' w0.; , f T. T ,. 4 r. . 14.ii , "S..- � I .. . . JL• lii. •.. . :•f.�w .u)B.{.r 1..:{l)f - .;j . .r,V ,v [..�.. .1". Town of Ulysses 9 Regular Town Board Meeting • April 13 , 1993 • And I don' t think it' s sound to hit people in the pocketbook. I 'm very concerned about tho legal ramifications of this particular situation as far as spot zoning is concerned. Mr. Tyler asked if there were any other questions for him. . .Mr . Hogan said no, thank you very much. Mr. Tyler said I know you have a tough decision, but there 's an old thought that judges and lawyers have which is "Hard cases make bad laws" . III-- Mr . Curtis said guess the point I would make Bill , is this , that this particular use is not provided for elsewhere in the Zoning ,• Law. Mr . Hogan said I think that is questionable. Mr . Curtis said as I read it' s not; the mechanism that ' s provided is a PUD. I think that with a PUD this Board has the responsibility to minimize the impact of that development . To do what you' re saying, essentially to try to protect the neighbors as much as • people can do, 1 believe that effort has been made. I believe . that the requirements that have been put forth by the Planning Board in their original recommendations go a long way towards doing that . There are some additional items I think could be ., done and be done at reasonable expense and in that sense I would agree with you that we owe that much to the neighbors to make sure that this thing is placed in that location in a way that minimizes the impact . For that reason I would like to include a final review of the site plan. Mrs . Georgia asked if the final site plan review would be .. included as a number? You are asking to review it , but you' re not asking for specifics? I want to make it clear. . .needs to be clarified when I write it up for publication. So you want to review and approve. . . if you don' t approve the site plan then the PUD is not passed? Are there going to be stipulations . . . Mr. Curtis said Yes, like any of the other conditions . III Mrs. Georgia asked. . .but what are those conditions of your review. . .someone would have to know that . Mr. Curtis said it would mean before they went ahead they would submit whatever the final site plan is to us and we could look it over and approve it . Mr. Hogan said that would be. . .Mr. Curtis said that goes in with a B2 . . .Mr. Hogan continued: that would be done anyway, right? . Mr. Curtis said I don' t know. Mr. Hogan said by the building inspector. Mrs . Georgia said reviewing it is just reviewing it but if there's something in there you don't like that has to be spelled out or how else is anyone going to know that . How do you write that in there? Mr. Curtis said I think this Board would have to approve the final site plan. Mrs . Georgia said. . .say for the Legion's - protection what is it you are going to approve or disapprove? - That 's a very broad statement . Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Curtis. . .are you talking about the location of the building? Mr . Curtis said he' s talking more in terms of the screening and the way the driveway comes out; there were a number of issues that were raised. : - Ill Mrs . Georgia said that has to be spelled out in exact requirements of the PUD because if they don' t meet that requirement then the PUD is null and void, but it can' t be so broad that no one knows where they stand. Mr. Curtis said Marsha I don' t know how to answer you, this is done all the time, it 's approved and that 's one of the requirements before Alex issues the building permit . What can I • $ ri: Town of Ulysses 10 Regular Town Hoard Meeting • April 13 , 1993 tell you. We' re not breaking new ground here . Mr . Hogan said item #3 talks about the rest of the landscaping shall be as per the site plan. So you already have a site plan. Mrs . Georgia said right , we already have that . Mr . Hogan said the location of the building is already determined, so. . . Mr . Curtis said I can revise that to say landscape plan. Mrs . Georgia said usually that 's approved before. . .we have all that on file now is what I 'm saying. Are you saying you don' t III approve what 's on file now, that you want them to bring different . . . I 'm not trying to argue with you, I 'm trying to • clarify it so it can be written up. We have a landscape plan now. Mr. Curtis said right and it had on it , for instance, seedlings 6 ' high, vegetative buffer which shall achieve a height of 15 ' within three years . . . frankly I don' t quite know what that means, I 'm not sure how you figure out what that means , is that honeysuckle? Mrs . Georgia said that in the past we have written it in. . . like with Spruce Row we wrote in what kind of trees . • Mr. Hogan said it has to be bushes or trees that would be 15' high in three years . Can' t be a green fence. Basically, what you want to do is to ask Tom to amend his motion to include a review of the landscaping as initially put on the site plan? Mr. Curtis said I don' t think the site plan incorporates all of these things . Mr . Reitz said the latest version upon the public hearing was revised site plan including the location of the building was moved. Mr. Curtis said then these requirements were put on afterwards? Mr. Reitz said this was submitted as part of the public hearing III and then as a result of the public hearing there were revisions made in the site plan, landscaping scheme and location of the . building was moved slightly. You could say that the site plan to •• be approved by the Town Board prior to issuing a Certificate of Occupancy. Mr. Curtis said or prior to issuing the building permit . . . that is what I 'm suggesting. Mr. Hogan asked if Mr . Reitz wanted to add that to his motion. Mr. Reitz said I thought that said that in part in item #11 . . . all landscaping shown on Site Plan and that additionally provided for herein shall be in place before Certificate of Occupancy shall be issued by the Town Zoning/Code Enforcement Officer. Mr . Curtis said Yeah, I 'm just suggesting we review it before the building permit goes out . Mr. Hogan said OK. Mrs . Georgia • asked. . . review Site Plan or landscaping plan, or both? Mr. Reitz said the Site Plan is the landscaping plan and the building location, the site is the overall site . Mrs . Georgia said. . .before the building permit is issued? Is that how you want it? Mr . Hogan said before Certificate of Occupancy. Mr . Curtis said before the building permit , that is what I 'm recommending. That 's the only area, I believe, that we can in any meaningful way minimize the impact of this project on the neighbors . Mr . Hogan asked if there were any more comments or discussion? Mr . Curtis asked for point of information. . .did we include that change or not? Mrs . Georgia said, I wrote it . . .Review and approve by Town Board Site Plan before the building permit is issued. The other change is the 6' trees on item #1 . Hearing no further discussion Mr. Hogan called for a roll call vote. Town of Ulysses 11 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 Mr . Weatherby Aye Mr . Curtis Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Hogan Nay Approved. Mr. Hogan said the PUD is approved 4-1 , thereby satisfying the super majority vote as required. Mrs . Georgia asked if there was a legal description. Mr. Reitz said it should be in the file. Member' s Initiative Mr . Reitz said he has an item for Old Business . Martin Luster's office called regarding Member' s Initiative. We have applied in the past for water for Jacksonville. Mr. Hogan said have applied for Salt Shed also. Mr. Reitz said they want to know if we are still interested in resubmitting. Discussed this item for a few minutes . Mr. Reitz will be talking with the office regarding this . . .will find out deadline, other particulars . Mr . Hogan said this is to renew an old request or submit a new one? Mr. Reitz said correct . . . they were reviewing our old request and wanted to know if we wanted to resubmit . If you want • to support a new request I have a project ; that would be building a water tower on the North end of Town. Clearly a need to protect residents and think the Village would go along with it . ® Mr. Hogan said he isn' t clear as to why we would want to put up a water tower, we don' t have any water . Mr. Reitz said work with the Village. Mr. Hogan said would see that as a Village problem not the Town. If the Village is trying to provide adequate water and charging people for it then it 's up to them to find adequate pressure, not for the Town to provide that pressure, cause we' re not getting any money for that water. Mr. Reitz said there are Town residents in the area. . .perhaps we could work this out with the Village. Would also enhance the proposed development there . . . the 82 zone. Mr. Hogan said you are basically suggesting this if we have the opportunity to submit a new request? Mr. Reitz said Yes . Mr . Hogan said the one thing that comes to mind is this building. We could use some new siding and insulation on this building; new floors, few other things. We could probably spend $25 ,000 . on this building in no time. Mr. Reitz said we have $22 ,000 . in the budget for that . Mr. Curtis asked if there was a cap. Mr. Reitz didn' t know. Mr. Curtis said where Tom is heading would be a good idea. If we had a joint venture with the Village; something like a second well . Would like to see a joint venture with a commitment or contract with the Village to send water to Jacksonville once we were able to put the rest of the puzzle together. Think a lot of Town residents would benefit also. II/ Mr. Hogan said there are a lot of Town residents you are going to have a hard time explaining why we are building a water tower for Village water for a few residents on the North end of Town. Mr. • Curtis said frankly he is more concerned about a second well as being a key part of the puzzle. Mr . Hogan said you are talking big bucks when talking about the Jacksonville water project . We've talked about that before and have struck out before. Mr. Curtis said that is why you do one piece at a time; don' t spend as much money . Mr. Reitz said he has received information. about .. (sw.�.»H`u�' ;. , t. rr • Vii•.. �.• :I ' .r {.y .♦ • ; )ru('.` - •(i.:a;.r r (..'. Town of Ulysses 12 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 monies being provided by the Clinton administration to deal with infrastructure. Mr . Reitz said he just doesn' t want to see the Jacksonville water • issue die . Agree with Mr . Curtis about the second well , but don' t want to spend Town money for that since it wouldn' t benefit the Town. Mr . Curtis said perhaps the way we are heading, never • getting this grant through or getting anywhere with this water project . . . if this is an opportunity to bring a little money back from Albany that can be earmarked for that project . Mr. Hogan asked how much money are we talking about . Mr . Reitz said he didn' t recall . . . each legislature gets so many dollars and they sub-divide it . Mr. Hogan said you might be talking $75 ,000 . Mr. Reitz said there is the engineering study, etc. • After further discussion, Mr. Reitz said he would get further information from Mr . Luster and return to the Board. NEW BUSINESS Fire Hall Construction Mr. Hogan asked if everyone had the information on the Fire Hall construction payments/agreement . Mrs . Stover said she would like to see a termination date of February 1997 in the resolution. • Mr. Reitz said he isn' t sure when the bond was issued, we passed a resolutionsin February 1987 to go into a contract. Not sure if they bonded then. Mr. Curtis said there must be some alternative • or why wouldn' t you just contract for the entire ten years . Mr. Reitz said State Law says you can' t. • • • Mrs . Stover said she would like to say ' continue the contract until the . bond is paid' . Was suggested ' for five (5) years or until the Bond is retired, whichever comes first ' . III • Mr. Reitz moved the following resolution, seconded by Mr. Curtis : • RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses hereby • indicates its willingness to continue the contract with the Village of Trumansburg with regard to the construction costs of the new fire hall for five (5) years or until the Bond is retired, whichever comes first . FURTHER RESOLVED: that each municipality's share will • continue to be determined by the ratio of a three year fire and related service call basis that will be reviewed annually. • Mr. Hogan Aye • Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • Adopted. Fire Inspector Mr. Hogan said there was a joint meeting with the Village. The Village worked out a deal with Doug Austic to take over all the responsibility in the Village for Building/Zoning/Fire Inspector. Talked with Alex and he said that was fine with him. We also • Town of Ulysses 13 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 discussed having Doug as a back-up in the Town for Alex. The Village agreed. • We need to talk about a Fire Inspector for the Town. . .Mr. Reitz said Doug is still our Fire Inspector . . .Mr. Hogan said correct , but Doug would like to just do everything for the Village and Alex could pick up everything for the Town. Mr. Hogan said he spoke with Alex and he would be willing to take over the responsibility of the Fire Inspector if the Board will add the budgeted amount for Fire Inspector to his salary (what is left for the remainder of this year) . He said he doesn' t want to keep a log book for each inspection for an hourly rate for every inspection he makes . . . so he said he would be willing to consider it under those conditions . If we are not amenable with this arrangement , he said he wouldn' t be interested in the job. Mr . Curtis said there are a lot of places where it 's part of the job of code enforcer; to be fire inspector. i wouldn' t mind amending our local law to eliminate fire inspections from our • local ordinance and rely on the State requirements . Know where I work we do them when we have time on our hands . Mr. Hogan said he feels Alex is capable of doing the job, don' t think the amount of money is unreasonable to finish out the year. I would expect some reports from him as to the number of inspections he has done and I mentioned that to him and he said, Yes he would give us reports on a monthly basis . Mr . Curtis said I have mentioned to Alex in the past , the ratio between the cost of the code enforcement here and the fees , seems like we have a fairly high cost . Don' t know if it ' s the level of activity or whatever. If the level of your activity is down it • gives you an opportunity to do these things . Personally seems to me this should simply be rolled back into code enforcement and not be a separate job. Mr. Reitz said I think that ' s what we are saying. Mr. Hogan asked do you want to adjust the salary accordingly? Mr. Curtis said, No. Guess my feeling is that the nature of fire inspector, it gives you something to do. . .you have to be around anyway. . . if you don' t have anything else, then you have a day to do fire inspections . Mr . Hogan said Alex said without the additional money he didn ' t want to do fire inspections . Right now it 's a separate job. Mr. Curtis said we can make it part of the job description. Mr. Hogan suggested having an executive session with Alex to discuss this situation. Everyone agreed. REPORTS Town Clerk - Mrs . Georgia reported $1, 101 .00 collected of which $892 . 95 was turned over to the Supervisor along with the monthly report . Retyping and updating the Zoning Ordinance has been II/ completed. Has been proofed; Development Districts have been added. Met with Jeannie Barrett and reviewed the zoning map that will be reproduced for our Zoning Ordinance. Few changes will be made. . . use numbers instead of colors . Tax Collector - Mrs . Georgia reported $1 ,155, 266 . 45 to date. Printed out 241 second notices are printed out and will be mailed in a couple of days . Turned over $436 . 60 in penalties to the Supervisor along with the report . A. `1 •:kW ..,Nq�i4U . .!'S: '�i;1 ',r•, J'" .. �. 1' ••.ht•q . . 1 1' r. •r .f• , . m4. :(f? . 11 Town of Ulysses 14 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 Highway Superintendent - Mr. Meeker reported we received 31" of snow during the blizzard. . . according to the National Weather Bureau. Federal and State governments have sent out forms for possible reimbursement , possibly up to 75%. Interested in getting newer V plow. No word on the street lighting on Seneca Road. Got a budget proposal for highway • improvement program. . .Town will receive a 14 . 81% increase for Chips if the budget is passed. • Mr . Hogan said the Highway Crew did an outstanding job during the 111 I • blizzard. Zoning/Building - Mrs . Georgia read Mr . Rachun' s report . Total permits for March, five. Board Members - Mr. Reitz said that at the Village Board Meeting one of the Trustees indicated he had heard that the RT 96 detour and closure might be delayed. Mr. Reitz called DOT and they said • as far as they know it is still on go for May 1st . • Mr . Hogan said he had received a call about the Town declaring a state of emergency so that residents could get federal disaster money down at the lake to repair damages to cottages or docks . It 's up to the State to declare the state of emergency. Mrs . Stover reported that businesses will be able to have a tub for recycling/just what you would recycle at home. Office paper; white with black ink; no envelopes/must be taken to recycling • center. Having extra tubs at recycling center was discouraged. • Also, there is a donation of a tree, one for the Village and one for the Town. Have to decide where it goes. Mr. Hogan suggested we get a flowering tree and have it put on the Fair Grounds as a thank you. If the Fair Board accepts this, all agreed it would be a good place . Mr. Curtis said Access TV, meeting on June 2nd to discuss franchises, answer questions we may have. • Mrs . Georgia said Mr. Curtis had mentioned vacancies. . .have • advertised in the Free Press about vacancies for TC EOC, Rep . to ACC, Rep. for TC Local Assessment Review and one for UYU Commission. Was advertised 3/29 and posted in Town Hall . No responses . Mr. Curtis volunteered to sit in on the ACC • Commission. Mr. Reitz said we also have two openings on Assessment Review Board; that will be happening in May . It has been proposed that this be a County-wide review board but will not happen this year. So for this year we need to have two people. Mrs . Stover has found that she can' t continue to be on the Review Board. . . the •. local Board usually makes recommendations to the County; if there is someone new who hasn' t been trained, not fair to people who come to present their grievance. Mr . Hogan suggested talking to Mrs . Duddleston to see if she will do it again this year. Mrs . Stover said she would be willing to sit in and direct people. The Review will be held the middle of May, Mrs. Georgia needs to notify the County who will be on the Review Board . Mrs . Stover said there are various forms , etc. that need to be addressed. III I Mr. Hogan said that Mr. Curtis mentioned that the Board needs to do SEQR on the American Legion. . .should be done before the PUD is approved. Mr. Curtis said I think all we have to do is the front page of the short form. Think we have to rescind the vote, do the SEQR and vote again. That would be my recommendation. Mr . Hogan said he wasn' t sure if Alex had done this or not (tried to . . • • . ,^ GO. 1 • 1 Town of Ulysses 15 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 call Alex with no response) . Mr . Curtis moved to rescind the vote on the American Legion PUD ' on the basis of a procedural flaw. Seconded by Mr. Weatherby. , P Mr . Hogan said you are saying that procedurally we should not have approved the PUD without having the necessary SEQR. Mr. ' Curtis said I think the State requires that we go through this, we've been thinking about this thing so darn long that most people have already gone through it in their minds all the environmental concerns , but it 's a State requirement that we do • this and probably a good idea to make sure we didn' t overlook something. • Mr. Reitz asked why Mr. Curtis says it' s a State requirement? Mr . Curtis said for rezoning. It ' s not a Type I and it 's an unlisted action. I 'm assuming it 's unlisted and that ' s one of the questions we have to answer, but I can' t think of anything that makes it a Type I action. Mr. Reitz agreed it 's not a Type . i . . . it 's an unlisted action. Mr. Curtis said you think it may . not require one there Tom? Mr. Reitz said it probably wouldn' t hurt for us to do it . Mrs . Stover said she doesn' t feel confident enough to take action. Mr. Hogan said he feels the same way . I rely on Alex. ' Mr. Curtis said he does a fair amount of them. Mr. Hogan said, Yeah, you' re familiar with it . Mr. Curtis said it is clear to — him that one is required here; can' t get in trouble for doing one that's not required. . . before you commit the Town to a course of • action, at sometime before that time you have to do it . Hearing no further discussion, a roll call vote was taken. ® Mr . Weatherby Aye Mr. . Curtis Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Hogan Aye Approved. - • . Mr . Hogan said the vote is rescinded. Now Ben, you are saying as far as• you are- concerned this is an unlisted action. The Board proceeded with: PART II ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT (To be completed by Agency) as follows : A. DOES ACTION EXCEED ANY TYPE I THRESHOLD IN 6 NYCRR, PART 617 . 12? Answer checked - NO. B. WILL ACTION RECEIVE COORDINATED REVIEW AS PROVIDED FOR UNLISTED ACTIONS IN 6 NYCRR, PART 617 . 6? If NO, a negative declaration may be superseded by another involved agency. Answer checked. - NO. • C. COULD ACTION RESULT IN ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOLLOWING: (Answers may be handwritten, if legible) C1 . Existing air quality, surface or groundwater quality or quantity, noise levels , existing traffic patterns , solid waste production or disposal , potential for erosion, drainage or • flooding problems? Explain briefly: Answer given - YESpa'final site plan to be approved to minimize drainage/noise levels/surface groundwater/potential erosion, flooding problems . Mr. Curtis said on the negative declaration, if Alex will type up 1.1}'.r. , .a.: .t ;:v , ♦ :. i.'.'. . 't .�, ,n i 'Y•. '+.•. r : . '(;! .l•,,..r' i; ..q. Town of Ulysses 16 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 . r tomorrow Marsha, that the mitigation for that is that the plan • will be reviewed to minimize the effects noted above . It could be ground and surface water, traffic patterns, potential for erosion, putting in drainage. C2 . Aesthetic, agricultural , archaeological , historic, or other natural or cultural resources; or community or neighborhood character? Explain briefly: Answer given - YES, adverse impact on neighborhood character/steps Legion has taken in curtailing hours; landscaping; mitigated by thirteen steps of PUD from American Legion to the greatest extent possible. C3 . Vegetation or fauna, fish, shellfish or wildlife species , significant habitats , or threatened or endangered species? Explain briefly: Answer given - NO. C4. A community' s existing plans or goals as officially adopted, or a change in use or intensity of use of land or other natural resources? Explain briefly: Answer given - NO, rezoning is consistent with Town Zoning Laws . C5 . Growth, subsequent development, or related activities likely to be induced by the proposed action? Explain briefly: Answer given - NO, this action doesn' t commit Town to further • development . C6 . Long term, short term, cumulative, or other effects not identified in C1-05? Explain briefly: Answer given - NONE. • C7 . Other impacts (including changes in use of either quantity or type of energy)? Explain briefly: Answer given - NONE. D. IS THERE, OR IS THERE LIKELY TO BE, CONTROVERSY RELATED TO POTENTIAL ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS? Answer given - YES; immediate neighbors concerned about direct impact; mitigated by conditions agreed to. PART III - DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE (To be completed by Agency) Mr. Curtis moved that the second box be checked, indicating that the proposed action will not result in any significant adverse • environmental impact, etc. , seconded by Mr. Reitz . Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Hogan Nay Approved. Box Checked which states: Check this box if you have determined, - based on the information and analysis above and any supporting documentation, that the proposed action WILL NOT result in any significant adverse environmental impacts AND provide on attachments as necessary, the reasons supporting this determination. Mr. Hogan stated that now we have officially completed the SEQR we now need to vote on the PUD application by the American Legion. Mr. Reitz moved to approve the PUD request by the American • Legion, subject to their agreement as stated, seconded by Mr. Curtis . ♦T , ;t w Town of Ulysses 17 Regular Town Board Meeting April 13 , 1993 • RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses approve the request of Arthur E. Bouton American Legion, Post 770 for a Planned Development District but only under the following specific conditions : 1) Six foot evergreens shall be planted and maintained around the entire perimeter of the = property, wherever there is not going to be • larger trees planted as indicated on the Site Plan. These evergreens will be planted in two ' rows, 10 ft . apart , 20 ft . apart in each row, staggered. 2) A vegetative buffer which shall achieve a • • height of 15 ft . within three years of July 7, 1992 shall be established on the east side . of the property, from the south property line, along the west line of the pond and then around and along the north line of the pond, continuing to the highway right of way. 3) The rest of landscaping shall be as per Site Plan. 4) Parking shall be as proposed on Site Plan. Well maintained, no asphalt or enlargement unless further application is made and approved. -- 5) Private club ( lounge and bar) - only members and guests served. Not open to the public. 6) Hours of Operation - 7n consideration of the approval of this PUD, hours for the Lounge and Bar shall be the posted hours as follows : Monday - Thursday 4 :00-11: 00 p.m. ; Friday 4:00-1:00 a.m. ; Saturday noon-1:00 a.m. ; Sunday noon-8 :00 p.m. 7) Outdoor Legion activities shall cease or must move inside the Legion Building by no later than 30 minutes after local sunset of ' day in question. There shall be no outside artificial lighting other than flagpole, cannon, sign and 12 eight foot light poles in parking lot. Flagpole only will be lit at all times . The other lights shall be extinguished when Legion not in operation. 8) Public activities shall end at 10 : 30 p.m. Sunday through Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights at 12 :00 midnight . P9) Activities are approved as per list of activities submitted, which list is attached hereto and made part hereof . 10) All landscaping shown on Site Plan and that additionally provided for herein shall be in place before Certificate of Occupancy shall be issued by the Town Zoning/Code Enforcement Officer. Town of Ulysses 18 Regular Town Board Meeting • April 13 , 1993 • 11) The Certificate of Occupancy must be issued within five years of July 7 , 1992 . 12) If variations of any of these conditions are made by the Town Board making any of them less stringent, a joint meeting with the Planning Board shall be held to seek Planning Board concurrence or vote by Town Board shall be made as if the Planning Board had disapproved this PUD application. 13) The Site Plan will be reviewed and approved by the Town Board before a building permit is issued. • Mr. Hogan asked for a roll call vote. Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye " Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Reitz Aye -. Mr. Hogan Nay Adopted. CORRESPONDENCE Mr. Hogan reviewed the correspondence received as follows : minutes from TC EOC, TC Dept . of Planning, WILD in NY, Bulletin Board, SPCA report, Local Records, TC Board of Representatives/sales tax with City, Luster/State Aid, TC Youth/Youth Service Award, NYS Retirement , NYSEG, Village from D. Austic to A. Rachun, LaBerge, Cornell Cooperative Extension, John Delaney, reports from Justice Dept./Rector 54+ cases/Zimmerman 9 cases, Village Police, TC Advocacy Board, Video tapes available from the State. Hearing no further business, Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn, seconded by Mrs . Stover and Mr. Curtis . Unanimously approved the meeting adjourned at 10 :30pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm a {., 1 TOWN OF ULYSSES • PLANNING BOARD MEETING APRIL 19 , 1993 TOWN HALL Present : Chairman David Tyler; Members Gregg Hoffmire, Budd Stover, Dan Smith, Krys Cail , Gerry Keil; Building/ Zoning Officer Alex Rachun; Secretary Roxanne Smith. The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 :40 P.M. Copies of the minutes from the April 5th meeting were dis- tributed to each member . Gregg made the motion to approve them, Budd seconded . The minutes were approved unanimously. ' The chairman asked the members if they all had a copy of , the revised application for the PUD for Pleasant Grove. (This • is the March 29, 1991 revision. ) For the members to arrive at • a recommendation for this application they decided that a . closer look at the Route 96 corridor was needed. David pro- vided members with individual maps of the Route 96 corridor. , For the next forty minutes the members plotted their own map with the known commercial and private locations. .. Upon completion of their maps the chairman opened the discussion with the question "What are your thoughts about the future of Route 96?" . He mentioned that comments have been made about needing more space for development . It ' s not whether you have designated space, it ' s whether you have quality space available. The focus of their attention should be on that. I If commercial development is allowed to happen randomly differ- . ent businesses will not support each other. Marginal businesses will exist; businesses that don ' t do much for the community in terms of economics, appearances and in general character. Krys commented that the existing businesses do not support each other now. David asked where does Pleasant Grove fit into the plan? Krys responded that without them that is the longest stretch of residential road in that area . (Which is kind of nice said Gerry . ) ' The proposal is modest with initially one building which will house the shop and owner. Hopefully people will be attract- ed; then a professional building will be built with offices . There will be four buildings total, said David . People should recognize that there is an office space glut (the old Oddfellows • Home has been opened for office space again, and the new Medical �. Office Building consistently has available space, along with space in the old professional building ) mentioned Krys . Alex said a mixture of retail and light industry would go in there . What is appealing is the fact that they would be the first to have a curb cut . ( There exists a lot of commercial space that has not lent itself to development in the last 25 ® years. You have a tax base that should be looking for commer- cial development. You have developers willing to take that risk. You have a good area to develop in. Perhaps a swap should be in order? This would sit in a field, if properly buffered it would provide a good use for a field (almost better use than a house) . It bothers me though that it is right in the middle of the only 4 they Would have one curb cut cor multiple Commercial use. . 41 TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING APRIL 19, 1993 big open space that we have available on that road stated Gerri . Alex mentioned that it shouldn' t be the only location to look to place a B2 . You could look at the stretch immediately south of that to see if a trade off could be made. Commercial space could be created in an area that has an even field, a good line of sight, a place where you could get a good curb cut and you could get a lot of cars in there as opposed to what is offered . (Of the e'i,3t,r2 Comrne+•tral on the east side the •topugrapl'9 is better than the west which has a depressro LOithin roo feet of the nryyh y, and Which is too feet deep and would need multiple curb cuts.) rt• is more ideal to have 'l} Set back •loo, 6a.id Alex The parcel for the County Home is being actively market- .- ed as a commercial property (across from Rascal ' s ) said David. The Chairman suggested that the group come up with an overview of Route 96, how they'd like to see it in 20 years. He suggested that they each use their larger map to plot what is there now, keeping in mind the residential areas also. Look at Route 96 as a package, come up with a rational . This could be their homework he said. Alex mentioned that there has been a request submitted for cluster housing ( a high density request) on the back side of Pleasant Grove. It comes out on Cole Grove Road above Denmark' s . plan Gerri said she'd like to see a rationalAdeveloped to util- ize the empty space behind the frontage. There is a lot of big open space. The Planning Board meetings for the month of May are scheduled for the 3rd and the 17th. The meeting was adjourned at 9: 30 P.M. t•, r ? i° MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE APRIL 20, 1993 TOWN HALL 7 : 00 P.M. Present: Chairman Gary Myers; Members : Ruth Kahn, Cather- ine Stover, Joanne Molino, David Laurie, Carl Mann Jr. , David Tyler (short appearance) , Building/Zon- ing Officer: Alex Rachun (early departure) ; Sec- retary: Roxanne Smith. Also present : Sue Poelvoorde 'A Chairman Gary Myers called the meeting to order at 7:20 P.M. The minutes from the April 6, 1993 meeting were approved unanimously. Alex Rachun met with County Planning and felt overall it was a positive session. The suggestions of the Master Plan Committee were shared (concerning the difficulty in reading the Land Use Map) . Eventually when the map becomes a zoning tool as opposed to a comprehensive planning tool it probably won' t be color coded. They worked on grids and screening types that would show in black and white the various designa- • tions. Alex mentioned that the Committee wanted the roads listed. The County responded that the map was digitized through parcels. Once the parcels were laid out in the Town of Ulysses the roads became apparent . Alex stated they really were difficult to work with. The County agreed to outline the roads and name the major arteries. Some corrections were made to what does exist now and size of properties and parcels that have commercial space. The PUDs are also being addressed. Hopefully within the next two weeks these changes will be generated. David Tyler supplied a small set (copies of larger draw- ings) to use as reference for checking acreage and categories. The Chairman suggested that the work session continue with the two quadrants that they had begun to color code at the meeting of April 6, 1993. Sue Poelvoorde ( interested com- munity member) was invited to participate. She stated she has experience in planning. The work session was adjourned at 9: 20 P.M. e . •'.. r . ' 0 . • • TOWN OF ULYSSES • . PLANNING BOARD MEETING MAY 3 , t993 TOWN HALL PRESENT: Chairman David Tyler; Members : Gregg Hoffmire, Gerry Keil , Budd Stever, Krys Cail; Building/ Zoning Officer Alox Rachun; Secretary: Roxanne Smith. . The Chairmaan called the meeting to order at 7 : 40 P.M. The minutes of0pril 19th meeting were discussed . The fol- lowing amendments were made : the sixth paragraph down (page 1 ) after the second sentence, the sentence "They would have one curb cut for multiple commercial use. " was added . On page 2 _ the first paragraph, the comment in parenthesis should state (Of the existing commercial, on the east side, the topography is better than the west which has a depression within 100 feet of the highway, and which is 100 feet deep and would need multiple cux.b cuts . ) The next to last paragraph on page 2, the fir:at sentence should have the addition of the word plan after rational . Krys made the motion for approval of the minutes, Gerri seconded . The minutes were approved unan- . imously. . David asked the members to share their conclusions after analyzing the map of the Rt. 96 corridor . Gregg noticed that the Town of Ithaca down to the city is basically Residential (except for the hospital , fire station and Candlewyck Park Apartments ) . He indicated undeveloped areas due to wetlands ' ® and the existing active commercial areas . Krys could not find Shur Save located on the existing county map. The section that has the Barangus , Stover Lumber and Compton properties • is a very large chunk. Realistically that is not all commer- cial stated Alex. The PUD also has land that is being farmed , a house, three garages, and a pond . The PUD included every- . thing. (Alex would have had him come before the board when . he had his house built had he realized that . ) Budd indicated that at one time there was a reason why a lot of acreage was needed for a PUD. (Though he could not remember it. ) That is why there is so much acreage in the Stover PUD on Gorge Road now. Regardless of the reasoning, Krys thought that the area might be an appropriate place for ' a B2 designation. It ' s close to Shur Save so it would be convenient for more than one stop. It is hard to visualize that area (Shur Save , Maguire Ford, the bridge and on ) as a node said Gerri . If there were water extension it would be a conceivable distance said Krys . Other areas that might work are the section between Clock and DeCloux and the Drive-in she said . Krys inquired about Holtkamp' s property on Rt. 89 . Would that be an area that no longer needs to be commercial? That area is now Residential stated Alex. Rudd did not complete the map however he does have a concern about the housing development going in on Colegrove Road and one on Perry City Road (which has 8 or 9 houses) . There is a lack of water on Route 89 and now another housing area is being generated which has questionable water supply. They ought to be mindful of that . People are ;vow more sophis- ticated about water (due to bank loans ) said David . Gerri stated that th': area where the Pleasant Grove proposal is is empty, just north of it it is too densely Res- 0 ,ti' . l ' •: •..:i.'1 .:r ' ii: ..] .S i.. t: j' a t.., :^:r,>.^. ..' .,,.o-, ...:�. a't,. TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING • MAY 3 , 1993 • idential . Visually it sits there in the middle of nowhere. • With the housing development going in, the area will be great- ly impacted . Gerri indicated she would not put a B2 there . The look that Route 96 has in the area of the futon business , Alpine Machinery, the restaurant and the trailer park should be avoided . It has all these residences interkpersed with it said Gerri . To look at that area as open space probably is not accurate as it is zoned Residential and there could theor- etically be many more curb cuts said Alex. Alex said that wherever the B2 is placed he ' d like to see the curb cut servic- ing many businesses so that the speed limit on the corridor could be maintained . If the B2 was in the Pleasant Grove • area you may have the same problem as the Sure Save where you accelerate after leaving the 30 MPR zone only to slow down for entry (departure ) of the grocery store . The proximity to water may be the issue. It is not in- conceivable that water may be brought from Trumansburg to Jack- sonville said Krys . The Town of Ithaca is more than happy to extend water as long as we pay for it said Alex. The area of Clock and DeCloux may then be more conceivable said Krys. Has the Town of Ulysses thought of creating their own water district and running it themselves asked Budd? I think they've thought about it but don ' t want to pay for it. Water is the tool that determines the way things go said David . The reality • is that the Town of Ulysses needs more people to share the cost of the water stated Alex. David said that the approach he took to the Route 96 map was to ask himself several questions . The first question when • looking at the map as it is now was did it arrive at its pre- sent state through any specific planning? He felt it arrived haphazardly. (The Village down to the Town line . ) Alex • said there were thoughts but they did not work. The second question was do they want strip development on Rt .96? If the answer is yes then it ' s probably safe to say leave it alone, it will follow the path of least resistance. People will build close to the road stick in a curb cut and go with it. However, Rt. 96 is a main artery. David feels negative towards strip • development. He liked the idea of a node. He focused on the area from the Village line to the area of Taughannock Creek. That should be zoned Bl . He then continued pointing out other areas that might work. The area of the Barangus seems a logical place if properly planned , along with across from Stover Lumber and the auto shop, down to Ulysses Square. He skipped over Pleasant Grove and went down to Rascal ' s . He took the exist- ing commercial zone and lopped it about a third . He then con- tinued down to Wilkins Rd . that has the Honda Shop and the pool business . He did not deal with . •Clock and DeCloux or the Drive- in areas . To avoid congestion it might be good to have one curb cut servicing Shur Save, Maguire Ford and whatever goes up in between. He said he would not choose the Pleasant Grove B2 for his first choice. Some subtle changes would be to set back businesses and minimize curb cuts . Structure uJtii have Monroe SquareAthat is never going to meet commer- cial"st&ndards stated Alex. The area across the road (futon place) could work possibly. Making the Drive-in area a B2 would not have a negative effect said Alex. Through the course of discussion the Dryden Road out past NYSEG kept coming up. David felt that Rt. 96 was in a different stage of the evolution (perhaps 25 years earlier ) than that but the two areas were analogous . The NYSEG is a large structure pleasingly done. The area beyond is in a non-stop trend . David • 1. fl J• ` a TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 PLANNING BOARD MEETING MAY 3, 1993 asked the question what ' s your vision for Rt. 96 20 years from now? That has to be considered before the Pleasant Grove B2 he said. There are far more residences on this strip than currently on the Dryden strip said Alex. Overall Krys would like to see people have the business idea first and then go out and look for available land. Some of • the areas in the commercial zones are already spoken for said Alex. The Pleasant Grove will eventually come in as a PUD if nothing dlse happens said Alex. The concept of the Pleasant Grove plan is great said David. The question is do we like where it is? We need a mini-master plan for Rt. 96. Once a solid concept has been developed then the Pleasant Grove B2 can be placed. The area that includes Sleeping Bear Futon, the ex- Redwood, Honda Pools, near Babcock struck Krys as an ideal area for multi-unit housing. (Candlewyk Park is beyond that. ) The buses stop there said David . They have water too said Alex. The Pleasant Grove area has a lot of water said Alex. Gerri queried about the possibility of re-zoning that area, sort of like a trade-off. It would be a legislative decision said David. David requested that everyone try to think 20 years ahead and what they would like to see. Krys said it would be unreal- istic to not figure the water lines will be extended down the road. Let ' s see if we can come to R conclusion of this in two weeks (the 17th of May) said David . The meeting adjourned at 9: 25 P.M. 5 1 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TOWN HALL MAY 4, 1993 TOWN HALL 7:00 P.M. Present: Chairman Gary Myers; Committee Members: Ruth Kahn, Joanne Molino, Catherine Stover, John Czaman- eke; Secretary: Roxanne Smith. Also present : Sue Poelvoorde Chairman Gary Myers started the work session at 7: 15 P.M. Copies of the minutes from the previous work session were distributed. Gary indicated that they should begin. John Czamanske arrived and Gary explained to him that the two groups were working on completing the two quadrant maps started from the previous session. The session ended at 9% 15 P.M. with all agreeing on +l meeting again on May 18th at 7:00 P.M. jl TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING May 11 , 1993 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , • Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis; Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun; Deputy Clerk Paula Mount . Others Present : Ruth Kahn, Judy Cone, Free Press reporter, • Barbara Hotchkiss . Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7 : 30pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr . Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Board Meeting of April 13, 1993 , moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by Mrs . Stover . • Mr . Curtis made corrections as follows : pg. 10 , 5th para. - ' citing' rather than siding; pg. 11 , 1st para. - "that they should be penalized"; pg. 19 bottom of page - "back page of short • ; . , form. �� pg. 21 under Cl - add "but" after Yes . . . Mrs . Stover queried pg. 7. 4th para. regarding special permits and what Mr. . Reitz. meant . . .Mr. Reitz said he would have to review his notes . . Hearing no- further additions or corrections the minutes were unanimously approved. Report: Trumansburg Fire Department Mr. Hogan reviewed with the Board. Mr. Reitz stated that Chief Roemer is- forming, a_ committee on local community emergency preparedness . ® Report : Representative James Mason Absent Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #137-168 in the amount of $9,718 . 27 , moved by Mr . Reitz , seconded by Mrs. Stover . Short discussion ensued regarding Claim #168 submitted by UYU. Hearing no further discussion, Claims were unanimously approved. Supervisor' s Financial Report Mr. Hogan distributed and reviewed with the Board. Hearing of Individuals and Delegations Judy Cone reported of her interest in local history/cemeteries . . . in particular the grave of one John Mack who is buried in the Jacksonville Cemetery. Served in War of 1812 . Has contacted Historical Society, American Legion. Also . interested in cleaning up cemetery; has interested people ,to work with her. Has received a headstone which will be placed on his grave and would like to invite Board Members to a dedication ® service to be held June 19th. Mr. Reitz will attend. Barbara Hotchkiss addressed the Board regarding a bad curve on Agard Road. Requested some sort of signage indicating 'Blind • • r. ::�.y+;T:i4::'.'... 'L' ...ti.r' _ • •. e "r >. '� .�r' •:� iii :`i°. i;•• :`/.' �.': ditt Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting • May 11 , 1993 Drive' ; or approval to do a sign on her own if the Town can' t do • one. Mr . Hogan will speak to Mr . Meeker and get back to Ms . Hotchkiss . • OLD BUSINESS • Zoning Maps - Update Mr. Rachun reviewed maps from County Planning. . . these are third generation maps from when first started. Road names are not on • these but the final ones will have them. Color coded for land use; Master Plan Committee is also working on determining land • use in the Town. As far as tax parcel numbers on the maps ; would • • make it terribly busy. Mr. Curtis invited Mr . Rachun to stop by his office and see what he has. . .not bad at all ; figure would be about 4 ' x 8 ' for Ulysses [one in five hundred map] . Gives an exact reference. Fire Inspector Mr . Hogan stated that Doug Austic will be working for the Village and that Mr . Rachun would be willing to be the Fire Inspector for the Town for the balance of what is left in the budget for this position for the year. Mr. Hogan said that about $1 ,378. remains . Mr. Curtis suggested an Executive Session after the Regular Meeting. Local Advisory Board Mr . Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis that Catherine Stover and Carolyn Duddleston be appointed to the Local Assessment Review Advisory Board. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr . Curtis Aye ill - Mrs . Stover Abstain Approved. Joint Youth Commission • Mr. Reitz stated that for several months we have advertised for the position of At-Large Representative to the Joint Youth Commission. Mr. Reitz moved that the Town Board of the Town of • Ulysses appoint John Rogers , 9 South St. , Trumansburg as the Town's At-Large Representative to the Joint Youth Commission, seconded by Mrs . Stover . Discussion ensued. Mr. Curtis moved to table this motion until next month, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Nay Mr. Curtis Aye - Mrs. Stover Aye Approved. Volunteers will once again be asked for in a news article in the Free Press . Water Mr. Curtis mentioned that he spoke with Karl Hecht and Hunt Engineers . Any programs that we could get in on for water, let us know. Hunt Engineers expressed an interest and will come here Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting May 11 , 1993 to talk to the Board when asked. They feel they have identified • funding sources . Mr. Hogan said he also has information from an engineering firm in Syracuse; willing to come and talk to Board. Will check it out . NEW BUSINESS Dog Control Mr . Hogan said he didn' t feel that the SPCA was doing very much for the Town. Paying $6 ,000 . a year for their service and according to their reports , not up in this area often or doing much. Suggested looking into alternatives . REPORTS Town Clerk - Will be distributed to Board members . Highway Superintendent - Mr. Meeker not in attendance. Mr . Hogan '• mentioned that Jim had several complaints about garbage along the • road. Alex said that after a complaint a fellow comes out and goes through the garbage looking for a name; if none is found they leave the garbage right there and drive off . Mr . Hogan suggested sending a letter to Solid Waste letting them know that we are not happy with what is going on, also that we cannot afford nor do we want to consider getting in the garbage business; Jim doesn' t want to start picking up the garbage. Mr. Curtis moved that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses • supports Supervisor Hogan writing a letter regarding the Board' s concern to the County Board of Reps . Mr. Reitz made a friendly amendment and seconded Mr. Curtis ' motion; that- the County officer collects and removes the garbage and takes it to his • office to investigate the content . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye • Mr . Curtis Aye Mrs . Stover Aye •• Approved. Zoning/Building Inspector - Mr . Rachun reported that he has been • getting files in order, issuing CO's . Five permits this month. Board Members - Mr. Reitz said he spoke with Jim Meeker. . . following flooding will be having a lot of drift wood, • building ties , etc . Had some calls of property owners on lake and they would like to see some kind of relief . . . like the Town going down to pick up some of the lumber, etc . (not garbage) . Residents would haul it to the roadway. Jim wanted Board 's OK before starting anything. Mr. Curtis questioned legalities . Mr. Hogan suggested asking Town Attorney. Felt that if you put out a general statement that you are going to pick up debris for people on the lake, then maybe you better be prepared to do it for everybody in Town. Mr. Reitz said this would be following in the - wake of a natural disaster. Ill Mr. Reitz asked that the Town Attorney be contacted as soon as possible; concerned about senior citizens , about folks who have natural debris in their yards who want to haul it to an accessible site to be helped out by having the highway crew haul • it away. . .not asking crew to come on their land and clean up . Mr. Hogan said if you live on the lake you have to expect that once in a while the water is going to get high or once in a while you' ll have stuff in your yard, part of the fact of living there. Feel that 's your responsibility , not mine. t{.` c.(�P-,.t l} . ^1Qiii:i'LJ 'C(i .1� r .'�ft l��l..••i.'^.a . w . "f � • :y : :i r•'J J" .. 'a;}, ..Fd...,l' 7 .y, 1. �l° :u�� .�' a. Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting • May 11 , 1993 Mr . Curtis asked that the attorneys opinion be in writing to the Town Board. Mr . Hogan said it might be cheaper to call Association of Towns. I would not like to see us got involved in • removing debris from every piece of property along that lake. • Mr . Reitz said he wasn' t suggesting that . . . just areas that we have public access; property owners can get the debris there, we just go down and haul it to the Town dump. Corresvondepce III Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence received from: NY State Assembly, NYS Rabies , Regional Digest, Info/Clean Water, TC Planning Dept. , CHIPS, DOT, Finger Lakes Land Trust , • Cornell/Water Program, Solid Waste, TC Youth Bureau. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn to Executive Session, moved by Mr. Curtis and seconded by Mrs. Stover. Unanimously approved, the Board adjourned to • Executive Session at 9 : 30pm. EXECUTIVE SESSION Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz , seconded by • Mrs. Stover the following: RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint Alex Rachun as Fire Inspector and to pay the remainder of the budgeted amount for Fire Inspector; and FURTHER RESOLVED that Alex Rachun will increase his weekly hours from thirty (30) to thirty-two (32) hours per week, and FURTHER RESOLVED to adopt a resolution that the Town Board fully indemnifies the Code Enforcement Position. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Adopted. Hearing no further business , Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz to adjourn at 10 :00pm. Respectfully submitted, Paula J . Mount Deputy Clerk ABIST �' a� ••'•... �.�:• .'. . �"'•.: .r` a` (,'.' :�i! •:h. i,` it ...'•� .ir.• .r 1'.� • fr � °i"•� r >t ,..q.'.!: Y .°I 1' • TOWN OF ULYSSES • PLANNING BOARD MEETING •• • MAY 17 , 1993 TOWN HALL PRESENT: Chairman David Tyler; Members : Budd Stover, Krys j Call , Gerri Keil , Dick Garner; Secretary : Roxanne Smith. The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 :45 PM. The minutes from the May 3rd meeting were discussed . On page two, next to last paragraph, the first sentence should read "We have Monroe Square structure that is never going to meet com- mercial building standards stated Alex. Upon correcting the spelling of several business names; Krys moved to approve the minutes. Budd seconded and the minutes were confirmed unani- mously. • David continued the discussion of the May 3rd meeting about • the Rt. 96 corridor . Dick offered the thought that they as • planners are looking at the community and the fact that there is a major road that goes through it . His question was what should that community look like and how much of it should be on Rt. 96, or elsewhere? To make a decision they should have the demographic studies available to them, as most planners do. Dick said he really didn' t know what the community wanted . (Whether they want a few mini-business areas with a lobe de- veloping off of that, or something else . ) Gerri said what the community wants is tax dollars . I don ' t see Jacksonville as a growing residential area o ' said Krys . Things change where you place commercial though said Dick. It was always taken for granted that things would stay agricultural . People want to keep the rural feel of the commun- ity. Everyone is coming up with good questions , good observa- tions . How do you take all that information and put it into some sort of a plan? Krys ' s comment about the soil conditions around Jacksonville is important too, said Dick. David queried whether a public hearing might be an option. We do need input • said Dick. • Krys brought up the thought she has about the increase • in traffic. Agriculture is not employing as many people and the State Mental Hospital and the army base are in question now, people will have to commute north or south to get to jobs . (Changes in Seneca County along with increased business use of the old hospital has incurred extra traffic. ) The jobs have moved away but people can ' t afford to re-locate said Dick. If we had a re-development group that would meet to decide what • types of businesses we want to attract based upon community needs that would give the planning board something to work with said Dick. We do have the antique shops as a draw said Krys . Tourism is big said Gerri . What could the village do to attract more tourists asked David? They could bury the overhead lines , he said. Gas lights volunteered Gerri . We could restore the village said DicK. You 've got the basis for something ti-.at could be a ' real draw said David . That central theme for the village could help the planning board in their decisions for the rest of Rt . 96 . Whet could feed into that asked Dick? We do have the wineries and the lakes mentioned Gerri . What do we foresee for Rt . 96 in fifteen to twenty years from now reiterated David? The hospital is a major asset said Dick. You ' ve got the recreational too . What is the status of the Octopus asked Budd? They ' re going to cut Rt . R9 from Rt . 96 , r. ^tip %Li} G?. ,1.1.. 7.1..1,.a::i::j•..i,1'v vL.ur('{. .L S.i;:p, .:�.'(f' oG '�l c`i... . :y51:••,a L.(,nlF-.'..: 'r(7:Y :Y....•:'e':.: .^•.d .. ..i: gl�.'ii rLi ..r.` ;fit:. .b ^ .... .a`..i.. . . a;;ul ;� '., .. ''.i.� nb,,.',.a. a�.::. ..`:r, .,;..\f.p - :.'• . .. , �.....4..r' a ,i ,. . .,. .a.. .il. <. 4..`. to r . . TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 • PLANNING BOAND MEETING MAY 17 , 1993 make a 5ccond bridge that will go over behind the Station Restaurant and have it feed into Buffalo Street . (Plan "B" ) There will be a lot of one way routes too. There will be an addition of just one bridge. Other congestion points that • weran ' L thought about will occur said Dick . You ' ll get, them there quicker though . It is suppose to start in the spring of ' 95 said David . Let ' s get back to the givens said David . The givens is Lhat we have a lot of commercial land that is not being used as commercial . I think we should ask that that be de-classified said Gerri , so that we have a clean slate . The houses that have businesses should be allowed to maintain them until they desire to revert to Residential . Once they return to Residen- tial they' ll stay that way. Related businesses are so important . I worry about the Town and Country Inn . It ' s out there with no support of other businesses . How will that restaurant be affected once the • • business across the way starts up? If it deteriorates will • people want to come to a restaurant that is surrounded by a rundown business asked Dick? What I would like to see in a twenty year plan said Krys is a short extension of water and sewer lines ( from the village line to the Barangus ) , a decline in the speed limit before the dip where the creek and the bridge is, and multi-family dwell- ings by the Town of Ithaca line. She supports David ' s suggest- ; ion of setting things back, having a buffer. The section of Clock and DeCloux might support neighborhood business along with Wilkens Rd. It ' s reasonable to believe that Trumansburg and Ithaca will provide enough grocery facilities . Small ham- lets aren ' t really centers of new residential growth said Krys . Gerri took issue with Krys over going as far as Barangus for the extension of a commercial district for a couple of • reasons . One reason is the dip in the road, another is because of the creek being there. The east side of the road doesn ' t allow for much growth as the terrain is inappropriate . Aesthetic- •' ally it doesn ' t appeal said Dick. The terrain ends at Maguire • Ford said Budd. Where does this leave Pleasant Grove asked • David? From my perspective Pleasant Grove is in the middle, an • • area that we don' t want to get more commercial said Krys . Right, if you go back too far said Gerri there won ' t be much land as • it ' s a triangular piece. Characteristically, the drive to Trumansburg has always been nice said Dick. The setting back of businesses has been very • • positive for safety and aesthetics said David . I ' m having a tough time separating Rt .96 from the community said Dick. One of the points to consider said Krys is that the majority of the • roads that run into Rt. 96 all come up at an angle. (The section of Wilkins Road and Krums Corner is a mess . ) The problem with Halsey Road is the dip said Gerri . I think the Pleasant Grove Proposal should be brought in so we can look at it said Budd . What do you think of Rt . 96 though said David? Everyone likes the rural feeling. Agriculture is not going to exist much longer in this town unless there is something done about the taxes . Maybe commercial won ' t be able to help. You ' re going to have houses on all the agricultural land . That is an important point said David . Sure we have an agricultural exemption, but it ' s not enough. It seems to be less every year. It is very difficult for people who farm part- time to qualify for it and their numbers are going down said Krys . Is our community willing to support the rural qualities we all want by paying more taxes asked David? 4:v .7 I ""t4,14 ' 4, '. - '•t '��'.'.t . 1'.i ,'`C . 11t•. vl;. •. n. tv _. i.l a�' TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 PLANNING BOARD MEETING MAY 17 , 1993 Gerri felt that Trumansburg should be considered a hub. Things should be done to encourage businesses there (to main- , tain them and re-generate them) . Having water extend out to Maguire Ford would be fine, any further and it might diffuse Trumansburg. Commercial has been extended to the north end of the village. She sees no reason for there to be discussion • about extending the commercial in any other direction for now. She sees two commercial hubs now on Rt . 96. If water availabil- ity comes up then there should be decisions made about more commercial districts. • The talk of a B2 is not just about Pleasant Grove, but the area around it. Pleasant Grove is smack in the middle of two sources of water, said David. Even if you get the water to Jacksonville it still is quite a stretch to get it to the proposed area . If that area becomes even more residential (as Alex has indicated it might) said Gerri , she would like to see it regulated so that even the residences are set back off the road. (So it has an appearance of open space. ) Gerri then left for the evening ( it was 9:00 PM) . David brought out the Pleasant Grove proposal for every- _ one to examine. Dick indicated that this might be a way for Alex to arrive at another B2. David said if another B2 is needed why not change the Shur Save B1 into a B2? (Then that area could be extended. ) Krys said she wanted to make it clear that she 'd like to scrap that area by the county home that nothing is being done about. A Krys suggested that the Pleasant Grove group should be • 1 invited to discuss exactly what their intentions are. Roxanne will let Alex know that they need to be invited . The next Planning Board Meeting is on Tuesday, June 8th at the Village Hall at 7: 30 PM. The second meeting for the month will be Monday, June 21st at the Town Hall , also at 7: 30 PM. • The meeting adjourned at 9: 10 PM. TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TOWN HALL MAY 18, 1993 • PRESENT: Chairman: Gary Myers; Members : Judy Cone, Catherine • Stover, David Tyler, Ruth Kahn, Joanne Molino, David Laurie; Building/Zoning Officer: Alex Rachun; • Secretary: Roxanne Smith. The Master Plan Committee Meeting work session began at 7;05 PM. Chairman Gary Myers stated that he would not be able to stay and requested that Roxanne be responsible for the various land use maps , markers , etc. He indicated that John Czamanske had called him and said although he would not be able to attend this meeting he might have an opportunity to do some drive by viewing during the next two weeks and might need access to the maps. The members broke up into three groups and spent the remainder of the session coding the various quadrant maps. The session adjourned at 9: 15 PM. • • • . 1 ? I TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING JUNE 1 , 1993 TOWN HALL • PRESENT: Chairman Gary Myers; Committee Members: Joanne Molino, Catherine Stover, Ruth Kahn, Carl Mann and David Tyler. Secretary: Roxanne Smith ' ALSO PRESENT: Sue Poolverde The Master Plan Committee met at 7:00 PM to continue their work on the Land Use Maps. It was agreed by the Members that the next work session would be on Tuesday, June 15, 1993 at 7:00 PM at the Town Hall . Ruth Kahn said • she would be unable to attend. The work session adjourned at 9: 15 PM. 4 • TOWN OF ULYSSES • ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS JUNE 7, 1993 PRESENT: Chairwoman Gail Zabawsky; Board Members George Tselekis, Carl Mann, Ken Christianson and James Hickey Jr. (absent from first hearing) ; Zoning Officer Alex Rachun; Secretary Roxanne Smith. OTHERS PRESENT: Lorren Hammond, Adam Tsapis, J. Tsapis, Peter McChesney, Barbara McChesney, Laura Holmberg, Mr. and Mrs. Roger Buell , Bruce Kim McPherson. Patrick Shehu. • Chairwoman Gail Zabawsky called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM. The first hearing of the evening was for Lorren Hammond of 3159 Van Dorn Corners Rd. , Ithaca, NY. He applied for a permit to enlarge and build an addition to a house. It was denied because there is na building or structure shall be erected on a lot of less than one acre and frontage of less than 200 feet. Mr. Hammond explained that the piece of property is one acre with frontage of 100 feet. He will work in two separate stages due to financial restrictions. His proposal is to tear down the existing roof, put a second floor on and build a steeper roof. The total width of the building will be 51 feet when completed and will sit almost exactly on the center of the lot. All of the • lots are existing non-conforming lots. No neighbors were in attendance. George stated that: Given that the addition was not substantial , there will be no change in the character of the neighborhood, no addition • to the population and no adenyl burden to available government facilities; he would make the motion for the variance to be granted. Carl seconded the motion. Chairwoman Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: Mr. Mann -aye Mr. Tselekis -aye Mr. Christianson -aye Ms. Zabawsky -aye The second hearing of the evening began at 7:40 PM and was for Adam Tsapis of 1113 W. Shore Dr. , Ithaca, NY. (Board Member James Hickey Jr. had arrived. ) The purpose of the permit • application was to convert an accessory building into living space. They were denied because no building or structure shall • be erected on a lot purchased on or before August 17. 1977 with a frontage of less than 150 feet. (Article V, Section I of the AMMEMEMP .f •:4.r '••`i x. 'x x)f � -0: . i x '. .rtt• �) , , •'f.q_J"{• . 14� 'L}'Yiagpti _ t. .1 TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ;, JUNE 7, 1993 Ulysses Zoning Ordinance. ) The Chairwoman then read a letter received by Alex from Martin and Marianne Harwit who are one lot removed from the Tsapis property requesting that the issuance of • a permit be denied . They stated that to convert further spaces • into potential rental units would destroy the present character • and composition of the neighborhood and would threaten property values. The Chairwoman then noted that the cottage on Laura • Holmberg ' s survey map (neighbor) overhangs the property line by a • slight margin. Adam Tsapis then stated that he would like to put some plumbing and a kitchen in, move some walls around .' (internally) and make no changes externally to the already • existing structure. On the south, west and. east side there are • windows. The general layout of the structure conveyed to Mr. Tsapis that at one time his father was going to create a living • space. There are electrical outlets throughout, it is insulated on both floors. No septic exists currently, but the Health Department will be looking at it. • Pete McChesney then addressed the Board stating that he owned the property north of Adam Tsapis. Although their relationship is amicable he is concerned with the future ramifications should the variance be allowed. They share a • driveway, so additional traffic could have an impact on them. He • believes the neighborhood' s characteristics could • be significantly altered if more renters were allowed. He believes his property' s value could also be lessened. "I Laura Holmberg (neighbor on the south) said that the lot is just one half of what is required. She is concerned with the •; septic, with the three units on such a small lot. The structures are all very close to her property line so ' the problem of noise could be very real . Originally she recollects a carport where the • • building is now. After the carport burned down then this building was erected. Mr. Tsapis said that one room in his mother' s home is rented • out, but it has never been deemed an individual rental unit. 2 Roger Buell owns the property two lots north of Mr. Tsapis. • • He is concerned with the feasibility of putting in a sewer (due to the geography) . He is in agreement with the Article. Mrs. Tsapis stated that the Harwits (who reside in Washington, DC) do rent their property and that two houses south of them is a one family rental unit as well . • Carl questioned the status of the sewer with the Health Department. Mr. Tsapis said that they require a professionally installed sand filter as opposed to a leach bed (an improvement over what exists currently) . It will be between the main road and fir • ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 3' JUNE 7, 1993 the shed. It will be pumped up. The Health Department has not issued a permit yet. Laura Holmberg stated the structure (carport) was there when she purchased the property in 1959. Jim requested that the Board reserve judgement, contrary to the usual routine. The most legitimate concern would be the septic . If the Board of Health denies them than the whole • situation is moot. • George felt that the building overhanging on another' s • property could be an issue. That would be an issue of you take the property as you find it, ;when they bought it 34 years ago • it was there stated Jim. • Alex requested that the Board not only consider the septic issue but also consider whether the building is within the 5 feet framework of the property setback as there may be a building code violation. The building could be re-defined and built on the property line, nothing is allowed over the property line. • Carl requested that the meeting be continued at a later date after the health inspector has had an opportunity to check into • • • it. It was decided that this hearing would continue at 7:30 PM on June 22, 1993 (Tuesday) . At this point Mrs. Buell stated that they purchased the property north of them to avoid someone eventually renting it (though it meant they had to carry two mortgages) . They had had a bad situation earlier with some neighbors renting . •• 111 Laura Holmberg stated that the Harwits do live in Washington. (He left Cornell 2 years ago to be the director of the space museum. ) Their daughter lived in their home here last �• year. They' ll be returning in a few weeks to live here for the • summer. A friend will be staying in the home in the fall . She doesn' t know if they' re renting it or not to this person . The third hearing of the evening began at 8: 10 PM. Mr. • Bruce Kim McPherson of 15 Random Woods Rd. , Pittsford, NY had been denied a permit under Article V, Section I to build an • • addition. No building structure shall be erected on a lot less area than one acre and frontage less than 200 feet. Mr. McPherson stated that a new porch (8 X 20 feet) will be erected (same as before) and that they would like to extend the kitchen north 5 feet 4 inches X 9 feet. He then submitted a letter from a neighbor from the north. Ann K. Martin has no objections to form the north. Ann K. Martin has no objections to the changes ,, .! :1: :f•; -.�,.q t !' ''{ sit :! . n :o ar...'P'! L: . •1 .,.a� , .. i..1! ..t ? if, Ji • TOWN OF ULYSSES 4 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS JUNE 7, 1493 being requested. The tradition of the Greek Revival will be maintained by putting a roof on it instead of leaving the porch as a deck Mr. McPherson stated. As a preface to the motion Jim noted that this was lake front property. Typically lake front property is irregular. Regardless of the variation the alteration of the status quo is relatively minimal . He proposed the resolution as follows: WHEREAS: It was not substantial as it pertains to the status quo, there is no difference with regard to entire requirement vis a vis the current situation; WHEREAS: There will be no increased population, no change in the character to the neighborhood, no detriment to the adjoining property. .. He moved that the motion be granted. The motion was seconded by Ken Christianson. . Chairwoman Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: I Mr. Christianson - aye Mr. Mann - aye Mr. Tselekis - aye Mr. Hickey - aye • Ms. Zabawsky - aye • The fourth and final hearing of the evening began at 8: 15 PM. Patrick Shehu of 1902 Trumansburg Rd. requested a permit for the purpose of adding living space to an existing dwelling. This ' was denied by the Zoning Officer under Article V, Section I of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that no building or structure . I•• shall be erected on a lot of less area than one acre and frontage . of less than 200 feet. • • Mr. Shehu stated that currently the existing structure is • 100 feet from the road. He would like to add a living space of 12 X 12. The general property is non-conforming. The lot is 3/4 of an acre. Jim made the following resolution: . - The proposed addition does not render any impact. ' WHEREAS: The variation is not substantial in relation to • the requirement in that it doesn ' t change anything .. , . ZONING) BOARD OF APPEALS 6 v, JUNE 7, 1993 vis a vis the status quo in regard to the requirement; . WHEREAS There will be no increase population density, • no impact on governmental facilities, no change • in the character of the neighborhood and no substantial detriment to the adjoining properties; WHEREAS: Applicants' project can not be accomplished in any • other method than the variance; WHEREAS: It appears that the interest of Justice would be •. served by granting the variance; •• BE IT RESOLVED: Jim moved that the Board grant this . variance. The motion was seconded by Carl . • Chairwoman Zabawsky called for a vote as follows: Mr. Christianson - aye Mr. Mann - aye . ,.. Mr. Tselekis - aye Mr. Hickey - aye ' Carl made the motion to adjourn to Tuesday June 22, 1993 at • 7:30 PM. Jim seconded. All were in favor. The meeting adjourned at B:30 PM. . e 1 • t'1; '.' r .:.;r .,r" •a,.': r Iv..a,. '. Y.h�...P:,v'•i '11 v' ' i:y�-• • •p.': ..•� i _ @ TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING June 8 , 1993 Present: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis, Robert Weatherby; County Board Representative James Mason; Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia . Tom Reitz absent/attending presentation at Cornell . Others Present : Christine Springer, Karen Smith/SPCA, Heidi • Hodge/Free Press, Roger Brown/Dog Officer Covert. Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Board Meeting of the Town of ® Ulysses to order at 7 : 30pm and led those assembled in the Pledge of Allegiance• to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes. of the • Regular Town Board Meeting of May 11 , 1993, moved by Mrs . Stover, • seconded by Mr: Curtis and unanimously approved. Trumansburg Fire Department No report . . - Representative James Mason ` Budget administration committee to review physical plan for 1994 budget. Public works hit hard with weather conditions; bad . :. roads. . . . . Received letter from Ulysses on solid waste illegal dumping. When I asked- that the complaint be put in writing didn' t • anticipate readingtit in the - newspapers: Working on. it; will be having: a! special• board: meeting on: the`. 29th. - . . . Airport construction is moving ahead. Two weeks behind due to • weather. - . . . . . : .. ® Sales tax split was discussed: Youth Bureau will be getting some of it. Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to. approve Vouchers 1169-199 (withholding #178)•cin. the- amount- of: $9, 806.52 , . moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by: Mrs. . Stover. . Unanimously. approved. • Supervisor's- Financial - Report . . - T . Mr. Hogan: reviewed- the financial report. On budget stets , Workmen's Compensation overdrawn, will have to transfer funds. • Will check' with: bookkeeper about . this item. Will also speak to Jim Meeker about .CHIPS money. : . . • T . Rearing of Individuals and Delegations None . . .. . . . • J: Town of Ulysses 2 ..: Regular Town Board Meeting June 8 , 1993 OLD BUSINESS Dog Control Mr. Hogan said as mentioned at our last meeting the SPCA has been doing a good job for us for many years . The activity seems to have dropped off and we are still paying $6,000 . per year for dog control . Agreed to take a look at this and see if we could get the job done in a similar manner for less cost . Asked Roger Brown to come tonight to speak with us. Also spoke with the Town Clerk in the Town of Covert , their current dog contract is III $2, 600 . per year. Also had a call from Karen Smith from the SPCA. who is also here this evening. Roger Brown stated that the $2, 600 . in Covert is the base salary. Is reimbursed through vouchers for additional expenses; $50 . - $200 . month. These additional expenses include kennel fees which are about $40 . month; mileage $30 . - $40 . month. Have an 800 line; that expense is shared, so that's about $200 . year. Mr. Hogan asked if Mr. Brown had any idea what Covert paid last t year. Mr. Brown said he has cut down since last year, expense wise and patrol wise. Combined Towns of Ovid, Lodi and Covert has about 1200 dogs . Ulysses census shows 676 dogs. Covert is the smallest; am getting about $2, 900. from Ovid and Lodi . Figure would be about $4 ,500 . base salary for Ulysses; assuming that you would want a lot of contact . . .meeting with people, appearance tickets , etc. • Don' t think I can beat the . SPCA price; approximate total could be $7,800. for what I 'm offering. Mr. Curtis asked what it would cost without road patrol . . .Mr . Brown indicated the price could be less without certain services . Was under the impression you wanted more patrol . Short discussion ensued. Karen Smith, SPCA, explained the report . Amount of contract this year was based on prior years activity. Would like to clear up this issue about patrols . The notion of patrols is a misnomer. . .we aren't contracted to do patrols. The contract for $6,000 . hasn' t changed for two years and that 's because your activity has been decreasing, thus you weren' t even asked for an increase last year even though our costs are going up. We respond 100% to the calls we receive. We don ' t charge mileage. We are going to get a conflict around budget time from our proposal ; we still have to keep a person on staff who is available because if you don't have a minimum amount of dollars you have to let the person go and it means we can' t do the work. The overhead is still there. Karen said your numbers have dropped off; where are the calls? Are you issuing warrants for tickets not answered? Mrs . Georgia said that most of the tickets issued for unlicensed dogs are responded to; on dog complaints people may not respond and there is no recourse. Karen said we aren' t interested in generating more calls but if there's a need out there; perhaps if an article was put in the FreePress letting people know that the SPCA is available for them. Asked if the Town minded if a letter to the editor was published in the FreePress . . .Mr. Hogan said go ahead. Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Brown if he could give, in writing , some revised numbers for on-call basis . Also include reminder letters and issuing tickets . Mrs . Georgia asked that dog enumeration be included, that 's long overdue. The State mandated every year and *.. 4r _ _ •il i,'• i .i. I •�f. �:Y'• '1.' i'11•. ..1.: f`.'::i. 'Y��.��:Y i! f:.: ..1 .A "" I . Town ot. Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Meeting • i' June 8 , 1993 then removed that restriction. . . they still recommend that it be done every two years . The monies that we collect can only go for dog control , none of that is suppose to go into the General Fund. According to last year's figures we collected about $1 ,000 . more • than the SPCA contract . . . legally you are not suppose to use that for anything but dogs . Basically you aren' t spending any tax payer dollars for dog control . • Mr. Hogan said let 's talk about a dog enumeration. Mrs . Georgia said for every dog we get $7 . plus 57% of the statutory fee, so ' if there are extra dogs out there it 's more revenue for the Town. Mr. Hogan said we will have to seriously consider a dog • enumeration. Mr. Brown will also include a price for this . Mrs. Georgia said she also has a name of someone who came in and said she was interested in doing a dog enumeration. Joint Youth Commission Representative Mr. Hogan said the next item is to appoint a representative to the Joint Youth Commission. Tom Reitz couldn' t be with us tonight but left a letter (distributed) . It was determined that ' there are two vacancies to be filled, both at-large members from the Town. Mr. Hogan said we have John Rogers, has been on the board and the Chair. Also have Linda Buettner, whose letter of interest was read; won't be back in the area until July. Mr. Hogan suggested waiting with Ms . Buettner since she is not presently a resident . Mr. Curtis suggested that it might be a good opportunity to sit down with the Joint Youth Commission and talk and interview candidates and also talk about some of the concerns raised about 111 communication with this Board. Would like to wait action on John Rogers until we meet and make both appointments at that time. Mr. Hogan said he can understand the benefit of a joint meeting, . however do we need to wait until that time to appoint John Rogers? Mr. Curtis said he was one of the people with particular concern that this Board was not fulfilling our function (think he wrote a letter) in regard to the Youth Commission's goals and I guess I would like to get some understanding from him as to where • our differences lie. Don't think working at cross purposes with that commission is a good idea. Mr. Hogan said think they wanted more funding than we were • willing to give them. Mr. Curtis said he would like to talk to them and any appointees before making any decision. Mrs . Stover said that would be fine with her. Mr. Weatherby said there's no harm in waiting. Will table appointments until we meet . Will ask Mr. Reitz to set up a joint meeting with the Joint Commission and the Village, perhaps the fourth Wednesday of June. Medical Supplemental Coverage Mr. Hogan said that currently we pay 50% of the cost of BC/BS for retired employees . One of the retirees has looked into Medicare Supplement Insurance from BC/BS rather than the regular BC/BS. There is a savings; about $35 . to the employee. Currently a family plan is $326. per month; individual cost $163 .05 . Medicare Supplement for family would cost $208 . 50 or $104 . 25 • individual . If the employee agrees to go with that , it would be a savings for all of us . Checked with BC/BS rep. and asked what • would be lost going with the supplement; was told they would lose the prescription coverage. Spoke with employee who brought this information forward and he said that was OK with him. Yv Town of Ulysses . .4' • Regular Town Board Meeting June 8, 1993 Mr. Hogan said I need to get Board approval to say Yes if this employee wishes to do this . Mrs . Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby that if retired Town of Ulysses employees wish to go with Medicare Supplemental Insurance, they may do so if they so choose provided there is no increase in cost to the Town. Mr. Hogan will also check if the employees relinquish their option to go back on the current insurance. Hearing no further discussion the Board voted. 4. Mr. Hogan Aye :, Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. NEW BUSINESS Resolution/Town Attorney Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to authorize Attorney Bruce Wilson to defend the Town of Ulysses in court involving the American Legion. • Mr. Curtis moved that the Town• Board of the Town of Ulysses authorize Attorney: Bruce Wilson to defend the Town in Court involving the 'American Legion, with the provision he be asked to • work as close as possible with other interested parties to minimize the cost to the Town. Seconded by Mr . Weatherby Mr. Hogan Aye . Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye • Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. REPORTS Town Clerk Mrs. Georgia reported total fees collected for May $1,426 .00 of which $942 . was turned over to the Supervisor. Have finished • retyping the Zoning Ordinance. Waiting for maps from County Planning. Tax Collector •: Mrs . Georgia reported $2, 371.55 was turned over to the Supervisor in penalties and second notice charges . All taxes have now been turned over to the County. Petty cash has also been turned over. Mr. Hogan mentioned that the tax account balanced to the penny. Hiahwav superintendent - Absent Code Enforcement Officer Mr. Rachun reported 8 permits issued in May. Two solid fuel III inspections . Had four SZA hearings , three approved, one postponed. Board Members Mrs. Stover said that she liked the Town Clerk's report last month. Mrs . Georgia said that is the same thing that the Supervisor gets each month, can make copies for the Board. ..- . - ... . . . - .. . . . .. , is f. , . .. - {:, . . 4'n Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Board Meeting June 8, 1993 Mr. Curtis showed a map that is printed by a group; free of charge to the Town. They solicit advertising. Looks like a good _. idea. Mrs. Stover said that the Master Plan Committee is meeting every other week. Working on maps. , Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence received as follows: Tompkins County Economic Advisory Board, ACC, Tompkins County Youth/requesting additional funds, Tompkins County Chamber, Empire State Report, Tompkins Community Hospital , NYS/DEC, Board of Reps, DOT letter to Meeker/street lights , sample of indemnity from Village of Lansing/discussion/will look into. Mr. Hogan moved to an Executive Session to discuss salaries, seconded by Mr. Curtis . Unanimously approved the Board adjourned to Executive Session at 9:30pm. The Board reconvened to the Regular Board Meeting. Hearing no further business Mrs . Stover moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Unanimously approved the meeting was adjourned at 9:50pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia .. '( f .. lil�. ♦ . . r(.% . •tin 1 . ♦ .. 17 ~ • .... ... .. :1. .1�. 40 ' I , TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL JUNE 21 , 1993 PRESENT: Chairman, David Tyler; . Members: Gregg Hoffmire, Budd Stover and Dan Smith; Secretary: Roxanne Smith The Chairman called the meeting to order at 8:00 PM. The • minutes of May 17, 1993 were up for approval . On the top of the second page the word "private" should say "second" . The end of • the same paragraph should say "It is suppose to start in the spring of '95 said David. " Budd made the motion to approve the minutes; Dan seconded. The minutes were confirmed unanimously. • The Pleasant Grove group was not able to appear to provide • a presentation. The Chairman requested that the members try to consolidate their thoughts on the Route 96 issue that they have , been working on for the last month and a half. Obviously because Pleasant Grove could not attend nothing could be finalized. . Dan questioned whether Commercial could be de-classified legally. David stated that it is legal to re-zone. Commercial property that is there becomes a non-conforming use. if the property ceases to be used in that capacity after a period of a year or so then it reverts to the present zoning. The Chairman shared the following thoughts for the record. Water and sewer are really key to Commercial property development. He suggested presenting the Town Board with a • statement saying where the Planning Board would like to see some Commercial development take place. It is time to take a • position. Perhaps this group could meet with the Village Planners. From a planning point of view Pleasant Grove really doesn' t make much sense. If it is looked at as being some sort of node of some Commercial it really has no future as water and sewer are too far off in either direction. Budd mentioned a plan back in 1986 or 1987 to run water to Jacksonville from Trumansburg. Mobil Oil was suppose to contribute a significant amount of dollars to take care of the problem. Mobil Oil decided that it would be less costly to buy up the surrounding homes and the Town Board allowed it to happen. David stated that if the Village wants to see Auble go they need to provide water and sewer and the situation is the same for the Shur Save. The Village does not want to foot the entire bill . Budd stated that the Village is using water and sewer as zoning. IllEveryone agreed. • . . . / . 1 '/: ..5.1:.::.;..,:';' ,'':--•••-:4 ;4 .!' . . ._._...:r''.. _ ..; i1'. .'q . irf TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING JUNE 21 , 1993 The Village may decide to annex the little piece of Auble' s and also the area of the Shur Save. David said he would not have a problem with that. Dan said originally Bill Auble wanted to be annexed into the Village. Have the Faces changed on the Board since than? Would they be willing to change their position? The Town Board has come to the Planning Board and said they want to have more B2s besides Ruble's. David feels that the Planning ' Board 's answer ought to be that the B2s should be next to the Village and they ought to have water and sewer.The B2 at Ruble's 4 has not gone anywhere because it does not have either. David asked the members if Pleasant Grove made sense as a B2. Dan said no. Budd felt that the original problem is with the DEC. David felt that if any planning was to take place Pleasant Grove would • '. not fit in. The perfect spot would be ISA Babcock said Dan. The horse barn across from the Honda Shop could be another spot offered Gregg. A basic issue that needs to be addressed by the Master Plan Committee concerns the Agricultural needs. If the community ' values the Agriculture in the area incentives need • to be provided. Everyone takes Agriculture for granted said David. • Vermont and Rhode Island have made allowances. There ought to be 7 III a rider to the State Ag exemption. It would re-distribute the burden so Agriculture would be more favorable here. An indication of how farming is doing is to look at their support -- services. They are going under. Taxation is a very • effective planning tool . . . To deal with the water issue the Town would have to do something big. Dan said major work needs to be done in the next • five years. Should the Planning Board meet with the Village • Planning Board, have a joint meeting? When the Master Plan . Committee finishes with their mapping The Planning Board should meet with them also. ' The grading of the Residential Zone will be next. - David wanted to take a moment to lay the groundwork for the next meeting. He stated that there is one Residential zone now, how many more are needed? The Master Plan Committee has come up with three (Residential under 2 acres, 2 to 10, then Agricultural • Residential with 10 plus acreage) . David felt the biggest distinction is whether it is owner occupied. Seldom would you find more than two units with owner occupancy. Three or more units would be considered multi-family for the first category. The second category could be the single family (acreage of 2 or less) , which could allow for the mother-in-law apartment. The ill third category would be the Residential in the Agricultural . setting. The next step will be to define what goes in there. �... _ 7lfr TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 PLANNING BOARD MEETING JUNE 21 , 1993 David asked how many Business Districts are needed? Three? The B2 came out as a medium impact zone. Two other categories on either side might be helpful stated David. The lightest kind of • Commercial use that could be seen might be business offices, doctors offices, pretty much self contained, with low traffic. The heavier use should have its own category. Three categories • in each zone makes sense stated David. The meetings for July will meet on the 12th and the 26th. Dan made the motion to have Krys Cail as Chairwoman for the July • • 12th meeting as David will be unavailable. Gregg seconded the motion; all were in favor. Roxanne will get a hold of Alex to see if the Pleasant Grove group can come to the July 12th meeting. Otherwise the agenda for the evening will be to further discuss the breaking down of • the Residential and Business Zones. An agenda item will be what is to be discussed with the Village Planning Board. David will try to get in touch with a member to let them know ahead of time. Budd made the motion to adjourn the meeting; Dan seconded. All were in favor, the meeting adjourned at 9:05 PM. 1 • • = 43 . • TOWN OF ULYSSES ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS JUNE 29, 1993 TOWN HALL PRESENT; Chairwoman: Gail Zabawsky; Zoning Board Members: George Tselekis, Carl Mann, James Hickey Jr. ; Secretary: Roxanne Smith • ALSO PRESENT: James Kerrigan, Marilyn Tsapis, Peter McChesney, Laura Holmberg Chairwoman Gail Zabawsky called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM. She then stated that the purpose of the gathering was to hear the request for a variance from Adam Tsapis for property at 1113 Taughannock Blvd. , Ithaca, NY. The hearing was originally heard on June 7, 1993. They requested a variance to convert an accessory building into living space. It was denied under • Article V, Section I of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that no building • or structure shall be erected on a lot purchased on or before August 17, 1977 with a frontage less than 150 feet. At this point the chairwoman directed the secretary to read the • minutes of the June 7, 1993 meeting. Upon completion of the reading the chairwoman then read a letter that the Board had re- ceived on June 19, 1993 concerning the Tsapis application for a variance. This letter was from Laura Holmberg, Peter McChesney, Roger Buell and Mary Ellen Buell who wished to clarify their • objections to the granting of the variance. (See file. ) The chairwoman queried the audience for comments. Jim Kerrigan, attorney in Ithaca, NY then spoke. He stated that he . is representing Adam and Marilyn Tsapis. He then presented the • Board with a copy of the approved septic and sewage treatment . • permit. ( It was the original copy. ) He then made the following • comments. He has been familiar with the property since the mid 70' s and is unaware of any fire occurring. This is a 2 unit lot and had been told at one point that the back shed had been used as a residence as was the main house. The shed was re-built and has not been used as a residence for perhaps 40 or 50 years. No changes have been made to the building in 30 years. Adam had indicated to Mr. Kerrigan that he would be willing to alter the building to move the encroachment if it were necessary. Various issues like property lines and encroachments are resolved in a different format and may not be necessary. He suggested that there is no true variation since the building was already in existence. The effect of the variance on the increase of • population and density he felt is circumstandard, nominal . He stated that the Tsapis's would have no objection if the Board 1 would like o see the building in question; that it is in a (u�{rmun}ar.� afar currently. Tha. prastn{ WindOw5 jut baralq .tau. !.:n4 M d'• .` ! r, 7...- ..,x- _�.i ?f F•':ii. P..' :'1 ..i' .r ; f ',,a ;. •^ i ` • ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 2 JUNE 29, 1993 Town Hall Mrs. Holmberg' s roof. The structure itself is probably something in the order of 30 feet in elevation of the principle living area of the Holmberg' s residence. It is probably 60-70 feet in distance, 15-20 feet from the porch. (He had not actually • measured, however. ) The one unit bedroom does not mean 4 more cars or 4 more people. It would not be legal to do that. „ The reason for the size of the septic system is that eventually the house' s system will fail and that is in anticipation of that. It has not been his experience that the addition of a one bedroom unit will depreciate the property; nor will it change the character of the neighborhood. The taxes of this property are ' now $7500.00 a year. Mrs. Tsapis' s take home income is $250.00 a week. Mrs. Tsapis is a widow. She has a rental over by Greek • Peak that generates enough to pay the taxes. She has lived on the lake for 30 or 30 years and can no longer afford to be there. There has been no mortgage on the property since about 15 years • ago. Hardships imposed by the zoning could create 3 possibilities. The first would be that Mrs. Tsapis would have to sell her home. The second would be that she could pick up additional income from this addition. The third alternative if • she wishes to keep this home for her family (which is her intention) is to rent the house. Mr. Kerrigan made the additional comments that the Health Department has approved the septic system and that Adam has submitted a plan to remove the encroachment if necessary. He then stated that it is legal to place a building directly on a property line as long as there is 5 feet between any additional building. If it required building a new building he would have advised the Tsapiss against it. Chairwoman Gail Zabawsky thanked Mr. Kerrigan for his comments and asked if anyone else would like to speak. At that point Laura Holmberg introduced herself and stated that she wanted to correct a couple of things. She stated that she has • been there since 1954. To her recollection the shed was never • used as a residence. She also stated that there was a fire and that the carport end of the structure was lost. They had been • raking the leaves in the fall and Stan Tsapis had left a pile in the driveway burning. The Trumansburg firemen responded but decided not to come down into the driveway as they recently had purchased a new truck. When the building had been re-built she brought it to Mr. Tsapis' s attention that it was over her property line and his comment was "I told them not to do that" . She then stated that everyone is affected by the assessments. She noted that none of the properties recently sold on the lake has sold below assessed value according to the assessment office. She stated that individual financial conditions should not be reason enough to grant a variance. ghe also said that when the iea.va5 o.ra. off 4ha, *MA'S variance.at indaad bar nonn2 i5 vislbl¢. {Torn the, i r 1: it f .• I ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 3 JUNE 29, 1993 TOWN HALL building in question. The basic house is 50 feet from the Tsapis' s home, 40 feet from the porch. Pete McChesney then stated that it was his understanding that the building would be a 2 bedroom structure. Mrs. Tsapis's home is listed as having 6 bedrooms. At this point Zoning Board Member Jim Hickey stated that 'he would like to correct the minutes. He stated that he had intended to say that the encroachment issue is not really before us. That would be an issue for court, not the Board. Another . point he wanted to clarify is that hardship is not a factor, it . does not have to be established (as it is in a use variance) . Jim then asked a question of the audience. If there were to be an approval conditioned upon there being only one unit with a • certain number of people would that satisfy you? Mrs. Tsapis responded yes. Mr. McChesney responded that he and Mickie (Mrs.• - Tsapis) have been good friends for years. However, he is • concerned with the noise and traffic (on the driveway and on the dock) of possible renters. The tranquillity of the neighborhood • I is his concern along with the quality of life and value of his property. Mrs. Holmberg and Mr. McChesney are year round residents. He stated that if they could work it out that Mickie .. had one tenant and as many family members as she could pack in it would be no problem. It is his understanding that that can not be accomplished. . Mrs. Tsapis stated that she would like to preserve her tranquility too. In an effort to raise more income she would be forced to rent another room in her house. Ideally she would like . to have her son and family living there. Currently she rents a room to a person who works at Cornell . For over 15 years she has • , given free room and board as she was in a better financial . • position. The room has a 2 burner hid, a dorm heath and a bed. - Everyone shares the bathroom. The outside separate entrance was • included when the addition was built in 1963. The entrance was for the children's play yard which at one time was enclosed. Carl noted that on the sewer application there were 6 bedrooms listed. Mrs. Tsapis noted that one of the downstairs rooms does not have its own entrance, but she has used it as a bedroom. Attorney Jim Kerrigan noted that the building code . limits occupancy in the upstairs rooms. The downstairs "den" is not legal for a bedroom. Jim asked if she had plans to rent any of the other rooms. She stated only if she does not get the • variance. 1.45,14) tha .5461.-11.4.5 J1in asked Mr. mc0esne9 4 ha- would be. happ y ;. tip • ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 4 ' JUNE 29, 1993 TOWN HALL • quo; as many family members as desired, but only one tenant. He indicated he would be happy with that. • The chairwoman called for a motion if there was to be no more discussion. She stated that it is a truly difficult case for the Board Members as well as the audience. George stated ' that there will be some change in the neighborhood and some possible detriment to the property. Jim said that could be limited. George asked if the windows could be limited in size • and number. Carl said that the fire code would have to be ! followed and that limitation would not be possible. At this point Mr. McChesney stated that if the Board could guarantee that • ' two tenants (not families) and only one car would be allowed into • perpetuity he would support that but he has serious reservations that that could happen. Mrs. Tsapis stated that if she had an opportunity to rent the building to a couple she would prefer that as they would probably take better care of it. She wanted to follow up on the term "neighborhood" as she feels that : lake property is unique. People live side by side, yet people do not see ac often. She stated that large trees and bushes separate the properties. • Jim Kerrigan stated that quite possibly only 2 people would be allowed under the state building code. The chairwoman again inquired whether anyone wanted to make a motion. • Mrs. Tsapis stated that she wanted to clarify the statement • that the building in question had never been occupied . A neighbor brought it to her attention that when the Maybees owned the property it had been rented . George inquired about Alex Rachun's comment at the last • hearing about a fire wall being required. The privacy problem could then be resolved. Jim stated that he thought it would have to be done anyway. At this point in the hearing Jim Hickey stated that he was prepared to make a motion. As a preface this matter is the most difficult the Zoning Board has come across. He stated that he . respected counsel and the audience very much. He did want to note that there has been some discrepancy in the offerings to the Board as to what has or has not happened, he attributed those to favorable interpretations, not to anyone intending to mislead any member of the Board. He then continued to say that the neighbors concerns were valid about the ,density, traffic and noise. At the e'amm lima. he. rnspecfs Mrs. Tsapis' dadrra 4-o aolua. har problarl t' • 411 • • ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 5 . JUNE 29, 1993 TOWN HALL without causing detriment to her neighbors. Having stated that he would like to move as follows: WHEREAS: The proposed use is somewhat substantial in terms • of the variation in relation to the terms of the requirement, not really in terms of the Zoning Ordinance's value which is the space of the lot. •' i. Given that this is a lake lot we tend to be • rather liberal in our application of our size • variances; WHEREAS: There is not likely to be much of an impact an governmental facilities; especially in light of the Health Department' s approval of the septic; • WHEREAS: It is clearly desirous not to have a substantial change in the character of the neighborhood and , - clearly desired not to cause a detriment to the adjoining properties; WHEREAS: The alternative ways of solving this problem can beo infeasible in terms of causing an inconvenience He proposed as follows: That the variance be granted but limited to occupancy by 2 people only with 1 vehicle. In so doing it is his hope and passion to create a situation that will not produce a substantial change in the character of the neighborhood or a substantial . , detriment to those concerns validly put forth by the neighbors. . It will still solve the problem that Mrs. Tsapis put forth to this Board. The interest of justice can be served by ' these • limitations. Chairwoman Gail Zabawski made the friendly amendment that , ' this proposal specifically be for the out building not the primary residence. Is it possible to limit the number of vehicles queried George? Jim stated that Mr. Tselekis commented that if you can limit the number of vehicles, you can reduce the number of , • vehicles there now. He feels that that is not true as they are - making a condition on a variance which means an alteration on the i • status quo: George inquired whether a condition could me made • limiting parking to the boulevard. I The chairwoman inquired as to whether they had a second to the moi-ion ? If -that' don* have a second +o •tho, moh•ion do tha_9 fir • 1 ZONING poARA OF APPEALS .. • TOWN OF ULYSSES 6 • JUNE 29, 1993 TOWN HALL • have a different motion? Jim Hickey queried whether the Board wanted to adjourn again. At this point Mr. McChesney spoke up from the audience stating that whatever way the vote went he respectfully requested that a decision be made at this hearing as it has been extremely difficult on all parties involved. At this point in the hearing Carl Mann seconded the motion. He did have some comments stating that he felt Jim's conditions • were too limiting. There are 2 people •.n his home yet .he owns 6 • cars. He does not think you can restrict a couple to one car in • this day and age where you have dual workers. Mrs. Tsapis stated that one tenant would probably not bring in enough for $450.00 • per month. Zoning enforcement does not allow for follow up to see if indeed the requirements were being adhered to over the long term. The chairwoman stated her agreement with Carl . The chairwoman called for a vote as follows: Mr. Hickey - aye Mr. Tselekis - nay Mr. Mann - nay Mrs. Zabawsky - nay • The variance has not been approved. The voting down of an acceptance of• the variance is a denial stated Carl . Carl moved that the application for the variance be denied. George seconded the motion. The chairwoman called for a vote as follows: Mr. Hickey - nay • Mr. Tselekis - aye Mr. Mann - aye Mrs. Zabawsky - aye The application for the variance has been denied. Carl Mann made the motion for adjournment. George seconded the motion. All were in favor, the motion was passed 1 unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 8:35 PM„ • 1 94 PLANNING BOARD MEETING • TOWN OF ULYSSES JULY 12, 1993 TOWN HALL PRESENT: Acting Chairwoman: Krys Cail ; Planning Board Members: Dan Smith and Gregg Hoff mire; Secretary: Roxanne • Smith. The Chairwoman called the meeting to order at 7:42 PM. Since the Pleasant Grove Group were not present, it was decided that the agenda for the evening would be the breaking down of the Residential Zone . She suggested that each member describe how they would like to see it. Gregg stated that too much is better than too little, at least in terms of being prepared for the future„ A point that Krys found interesting is that usually for financing purposes if a house changes hands and there is agricultural property attached to it that won' t be considered part of the financing of it, typically there is a maximum of 5 • acres. The agricultural exemption applies to the earnings of a piece of property ($10,000.00) not to the actual amount of acreage there is mentioned Dan. Krys liked the categories mentioned at the last Planning Board Meeting. The first is Residential - under 2 acres. She wondered if the second Residential should be 2 - 5 acres instead of 2 - 10 acres though, and the third; Agricultural Residential would be 5 plus. She then stated that when she was looking for property there were not a lot of 5 - 10 acre parcels available. When they found more than 5 available it was frequently 35 or 40 acres. Krys wondered how multiple housing units would fit into the categories. Is there a guideline as to how much property has to • be with a multi-unit queried Gregg? Most of the units that have more property would have non-conforming uses and would not even be in the zone stated Krys. When you talk about establishing a zone you are probably talking about putting it close to the village line. Krys asked how the zone should be based; on the number of units or the amount of acreage. Gregg stated both. He listed single family up to 3 acres, then 3 plus should be a different category, 5 plus should be Agricultural . As to how • many units should be allowed on a parcel he thought it should be • done tastefully. Sometimes it is almost self-regulating when you put the units. so close because of the water needs stated Krys. Dan agreed with Gregg that it should be based on both the number of units and the amount of acreage. Currently the way we have it is you need minimum acreage said Krys. The members arrived at 2 attached units (same structure) per "X" amount of acreage (amount Ill of acreage is unknown presently) . Krys thought that it • .. � n PANNING BOAMMEET,N(, TOWN OF ULYSSES • JULY 12, 1993 • 1 would probably be consistent with the building code but they • should check with Alex. The naming of the categories will be as • follows: R1 ,R2,R3 and Al (Agricultural Residential ) . The Al category will be set up as agricultural land including a house. Ideally if there is a tax break you will get it on the house said Krys. There are a lot of parcels with 20 - 30 acres of land with a house that do not engage in farming. Is it considered agricultural land asked Krys? Do you want to call it Vacant land •• asked Gregg? Gregg described agricultural land as actively • worked crop land. Perhaps this should be another category. The usual term applied is actively engaged in farming stated Dan. The activity the person engages in defines it said Krys. How about Recreational instead of Vacant asked Gregg? That would then become consistent with the 2 - 10 category said Krys. Recreational / Vacant suggested Dan. We could say that you have to have at least 5 acres to build there. We could not say • agricultural you have to farm to live there. The tax break is based on what you are doing not how you are zoned. Some may have the agricultural exemption but live in a Residential zone. The exemption is set up for those who own the property not rent it, and it is getting harder and harder to own property if you are a • farmer stated Krys. The agricultural exemption is reviewed every • year said Dan. It should be kept the way it is, permitted in all • zones said Krys. • The categories arrived at are as follows: • R1 - up to 2 acres • • R2 - 2 plus acres (no top end) • R3 - Multi Family - 3 plus units on 1 tax parcel If this is done intelligently then water districts will be formed said Krys. Discussion ensued concerning the amount of acreage that should be required for the R3. Krys allowed that • perhaps it would be okay to have it on a smaller piece; especially if it was hooked into a water district. It would then become a "city type urban dwelling" said Krys. She suggested • that if water was extended out past Shur Save someone could put in a senior community adult home like Juniper Manor. Dan could agree with that but would be against someone purchasing 3 acres next to him and putting up 2 units with the potential of 8 apartments. He stated that the Trumansburg school district is • very attractive. A parent moves in with 2 children, pays $500.00 in taxes and it costs the school district $9500.00 per student a • year. We can help control that by doing this properly. • Ill . .. ... . .. .: . .. . .. .. . 14t • I. . PLANNING BOARD MEETING 3 TOWN HALL :. I/ JULY 12, 1993 Dan suggested that perhaps the Master Plan Committee has • solved this situation. Small lots of R3 could be allowed in Commercial because you are going to have B2s there. Just say Multi Family allowed in areas of less than 5 acres in Commercial Zones. Otherwise , Multi-Units (R3) require 5 acres. Then 20 • odd unit housing could be erected and people would be able to • walk to the store, etc. Krys said that someday there would -probably be water there so it would lit right in. This way you avoid Special Permits and appeals to the Zoning Board said Dan. There may be some additional areas to think about for R3s said Krys. In particular she was thinking about densely populated areas; like the lake front along Glenwood Point. From a planning perspective that area could be redeveloped and condos could be put in. It would increase the tax base. Residential density .. could be addressed by saying a certain number of multi-unit parcels would be allowed in Commercial and in a high density area. All densities would then have to be defined ( low, medium and high) stated Dan. Krys then asked if they were heading for two categories of Multi-Family Residential? Dan said yes and that it would be an allowable use. We really have to think about this; not only about how many units are allowed per parcel but also should R3s be allowed adjacent to Commercial said Krys. It was decided that Daves' expertise would be helpful. After the scheduled presentation of the Pleasant Grove Group . at the next meeting the agenda should address Commercial stated • Krys. Four categories were suggested (B1 , B2, B3 [offices] , B4 ' [industrial] ) . Dan made the motion to approve the minutes of the previous meeting, Gregg seconded. The minutes were approved unanimously. Dan made the motion to adjourn the meeting, Gregg seconded, the meeting adjourned at 8:45 PM. • Ill • k. ' i' . . n. .'a•Y:' .y.' .L }P •IJ�d4: •.\ \ 7!1 -f.. ) :1 .1} , Y: .'.. 'i.... .Y =C,f.:i.'`) TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR BOARD MEETING July 13, 1993 PRESENT: Supervisor William P. Hogan; Town Council Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Men Curtis and Robert Weatherby; Highway ® Superintendent James Meeker;Town Clerk Marsha L. Georgia; Zoning/Building/ Fire Inspector Alex Rachun. • Others Present: Representatives Ulysses Youth, Wendi Shaw and Margaret Northrup. Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7 :30pm. He led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Board Meeting of June 8, 1993. It was moved by Mrs. Stover, seconded by Mr. Curtis. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz abstained Mr. Curtis aye Mrs. Stover aye • Mr. Weatherby aye , Adopted Report : Trumanabura Fire Department No representation Report: Representative James Mason Absent - due to County Meeting - Claims • Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #200-236 for .. $12,281.70 , moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Curtis. Mr. Curtis asked about claim ;202 & 203 made out to Justice ' Rector for a seminar. He feels that there should be documentation and since they lacked it the claims should not be paid .because. he has been told several times. - Mr. Reitz ,amended . ' . his` 'motion. He feels that there should be documentation also. The one seminar is taking place in' July. -• The Board should okay this one and hold the #203 for October. By the August meeting Judge Rector can attach documentation to claim. Also, Mr. Reitz would like a report from Justice Rector on the seminar. Mr. ' Weatherby seconded the amended motion. The claims now total $11, 925 . 20 , which excluded claim # 203 . Mr. Curtis asked if the attorney's bill could be paid out of Part Town Funds. Mr. Hogan said that it could but that they could transfer monies from the contingency account to cover the overage. They did not know what the total attorney fees may be. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mr.:iCurtis aye . - Mrs .'. Stover: . aye . Mr. Weatherby aye . Adopted. .. .^ii+ ifrt'',7.. .•:ia(,t•f,`• �•,`.. .� .•1.`. . . �.. . ... .. bw`.f. ..a.:'.' r` t. •i t ;s . • Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Board Meeting • 7-13-93 The Supervisor's Financial report and Quarterly Report was distributed and the Board reviewed the overdrawn accounts . 1 • Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to transfer $500 to A1420.04 from A1990 .04, moved by Mr. Weatherby, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to transfer $10 . to A1920.04 from A990 .04, moved by Mrs . Stover and seconded by Mr. Reitz. • Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Cutis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to transfer $8000 to A7310 .01 from A7310 .04, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Weatherby. Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye • Mrs. Stover aye . • Mr. Curtis aye Mr. Weatherby aye Adopted. . Mr. Hogan reviewed- the Cash Flow statement .. • The Board discussed the overdrawn account in the. Highway Funds for workman compensation insurance. Mrs. Vanderbuilt. had some questions on the audit done and. she .and Mr. Hogan will talk with Joe Farrell about this tomorrow. • Hearing of Individuals and/or. Delectations No one spoke. OLD BUSINESS • Ulysses Youth Update Wendi Shaw of Family and Children Services reported (see attached) . Margaret Northrup, school nurse in the Trumansburg Middle School said that she works very closely with the representatives of Ulysses Youth. She feels that they contribute a lot to the welfare of the youth, which may be at risk in Trumansburg, by being viable at the school and than attending staff meetings and giving ideas . Wendi apologized for not having a budget and will prepare one for the Board breaking it down program by program. 7. I` C.�. r a`,� i,. .'� .a 11�' r ...� 1. :i/i . .2.i. :L:._' is Y:.�. r.�+• . n' �.:••�..: ral r � . .�'. to '.�.x,.. . . F. . . :•; ..•Y•.� •err x ::1 r .• r n'.., a 1 , Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Meeting •• 7-13-93 • • The Board discussed the two openings for Ulysses Youth Commission and decided that they would have the two candidates come Saturday morning August 14th, at 8:00am to interview. ' Hr. Reitz will notify the two interested parties. . • Update - American Legion Lawsuit Mr. Hogan updates the Board on the current lawsuit that Attorney Bruce Wilson is defending against the article 78 the residents are bringing against the Town for passing the request of the American Legion to build a new facility on Route 227 . The briefs of the attorneys are on file in the clerk's office. NEW BUSINESS Overhead Door Replacement/Highway Barns y. Mr. Hogan reported that he had met with Mr. Meeker to inspect the condition of the overhead doors on the Town Barns. Mr. Meeker has had a. couple of the doors repaired but- the one needs to be replaced: Mr. "Heeker" explained pros and- cons of repairing the door and costs for both. He said- he did not- necessarily need Board resolution. because it is under the $5000 limit of repair spending. The approximate cost to replace would be . around. $3400 for the overhead and $800 for- the walk way- door. ® Mr. Curtis asked Mr. Hogan if he had checked on . the Indemnity Clause for the town. Mr. Hogan stated he had not checked on that but would. Mr. Hogan introduced a resolution that the Town of Chester has asked the Board to consider. The resolution would ask that the City 'of New York check -out potential criminals before they • transfer them to a new homeless dwelling in their town. ..Mr. Hogan read correspondence - in..relation to this .. Mr. Curtis moved, seconded ,by Mr. Weatherby the following; WHEREAS; the City of New York operates a facility for homeless people in the Town of Chester, NY, and • WHEREAS, the Towns of Chester and Blooming Grove have and are experiencing difficulties with individuals who reside at • that facility causing public safety and health concerns , and WHEREAS, the Towns of Chester and Blooming Grove have ascertained .to their satisfaction that a certain number of the residents at the facility are the subject of outstanding • criminal warrants, and WHEREAS, no screening of criminal records for outstanding O warrants, etc. is performed by the City of New York prior to placing the residents at .this facility, and WHEREAS, the Towns of Chester and Blooming Grove have requested the help of the other municipalities in the state • to help insure passage of legislation designed to require criminal record checks prior to admission to this non-secure residential facility (52150 and A2526) , - NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Town of Ulysses supports the Towns of Chester and Blooming Grove in their desire to have the above bills enacted into law, and • • e ® Town of Ulysses 4 Gs Regular Board Meeting 7-13-93 BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a copy of this resolution be sent to the State Senator and State Assemblyman representing the Town of Ulysses , with our request to support said bill (s) , and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a copy of this resolution be sent to the Town supervisor of the Town of Chester. Mr. Hogan aye • Mr.. Reitz abstained Mrs. Stover abstained Mr. Curtis aye - ' - • Mr. Weatherby aye • Adopted. Town Clerk/Collector • Mrs . Georgia reported that the collected a total of $1, 933 . 35 of which $1,341.20 was turned over to the Supervisor along with the monthly . report. Copies of this report were distributed to the Board Members. as Mrs. Stover requested. Mrs . Georgia reported that she is now receiving supplies- for the sale of the new conservation licenses that will go on sale in August . She reported that there are many changes with the non-resident • licenses. The State has added several additional stamps such as bow, muzzleloading., bear and a combination. Making the non resident fees much larger. Highway Superintendent - Mr. Meeker reported. tbat he has been down fixing the bad spots on • Hinging Post. Road. They put binder down before they resurface. • He has received correspondence from' Chips and is now sure when or if we will be receiving our money. They have mowed road sides along the new detour. Mr. Meeker said that if anyone has any • • problems or concerns with the• detour -or new bridge project that " - they can contact the head man that is Andy Seyfried at 387-7897 . The Board asked Mr.. Meeker -to check with him concerning -the sleeves that they are supposed to install along the bridge for • future water and/or sewer lines . . • Zoning/Building/Fire Inspector Mr . Rachun reported that the Zoning Board of Appeals reviewed and • acted on four applications' three of which were passed and the four was denied.: - Eight building permits were issued and there were three starts. Board Members - Mr. Reitz reported that the Tompkins county Planning is on recess III until September. Also that the County Youth is working on a survey and that they may add some questions concerning youth that will go out-to the residents whom children attend the Ithaca City School District . Mrs . Stover reported that the Recycling Center at the Fairgrounds • will be closed July 24th during the Music Festival and August • 28th for the Fair. - I ®1r Town of Ulysses • 5 Regular Board Meeting ' 7-13-93 Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed the correspondence he has received during the month. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion for adjournment, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Stover. • Unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned 10 :25 p.m. . Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia • Town Clerk MLG:mg • ' ' Ill . . • r . ULYSSES YOUTH UNLIMITED QUARTERLY PROGRAM REPORT June 16, 1993 • The quarterly report will focus on the four major program areas addressed by UYU from March 15 - June 15. These include youth employment; community and youth recreation; education/enrichment; and community events. YOUTH EMPLOYMENT I. Job Seekers Course: This course includes job seeking skills (where and how to look for employment opportunities) ; assessment of personal skills; how to present; handling an interview; maintaining a job. This course is modeled after the Ithaca Youth • Bureau Youth Employment Service training program. 3/15 - 4/30 (6) 5th, (3) 6th, (5) 7th, (3) 8th TOTAL: 17 youth 5/1 - 6/15 (4) 5th, (1) 6th, (6) 7th, (5) 8th TOTAL: 16 youth II. Youth Employment Services: This is a high school based program offering one - on - one assistance with resume preparation and acquiring spot-jobs (lawn care; babysitting; house cleaning. . . ) ; matching youth with community citizens and employers seeking youth employment services. 5/1 - 6/15 (11) 10th graders, (7) 11th graders TOTAL: 18 youth III. Summer Job Program: Eight stipended summer job positions viewed as learning experiences. UYU staff seek out perspective employers willing to offer youth opportunities for apprenticeships, skill building, and employment. UYU staff recruit youth, provide on-site job training, supervision of youth, follow-up communication with the employer, and maintain a positive experience for both youth and employer. The stipended jobs program was announced to students in both the middle and high school. Staff and teachers were notified at • staff meetings. Posters were displayed in the schools as well. Position/Employer # of Youth # hours Summer Recreation Program 3 90 hours/youth Dept. of Public Works 1 90 hours Library 1 90 hours Veterinarian (no firm conf. ) 1 90 hours Guidance off/nursery school 1 90 hours Network Cafe 1 90 hours There were 17 inquiries regarding the Stipended Summer Job Program. 15 youth followed through with preparing and submitting an application. All 15 interviewed for positions. Preference was shown to first time job seekers; youth with initiative; youth able to work independently; youth in need of employment. I . • RECREATION I. Open Gym: Open to all community members over 10 years of age •- on Tuesday and Friday evenings. 25-40 youth served each session; primarily high school youth and older. II. Field Trips: Help youth access cultural, educational, and recreational activities outside the UYU area. March: Bowling 6 youth April: Horse Farm; watch show 6 youth • Tom Tran / Mall; learn T.T. 6 youth May: Treman Park; wildflower walk 6 youth June: Taughannock Park; fishing trip 5 youth III. The Outing Program: Coordinated with Ithaca Youth Bureau this high school group meets weekly; targets at-risk youth as identified by the school counseling staff. 8 youth are served; 6 youth attend the weekend camping trips. Case management is coordinated with the schools. IV. Drop-in Center: Small group participation of fun activities to include pretzel making, arts and crafts, videos, cooking, etc. 5-9 youth per day average; numbers below reflect unduplicated count. March: 57 youth served April: 44 youth served May: 36 youth served 6/1 - 6/15: 19 youth served COMMUNITY EVENTS These events are meant to include a wide range of citizens to encourage community pride and a sense of community. March AIDS Baby Quilts 6 youth 4 adults April Sporting Good Exchange 4 youth 6 adults • May Adopt - a - Highway 5 youth 3 adults Boces Drug Quiz 15 youth 3 adults June End of School Picnic ? ? . • EDUCATION / ENRICHMENT I. Drop-in Center: Monthly educational programs and discussion groups are offered through the drop-in center. Month Agency Program 4 youth • • March Planned Parenthood Aids / Safe Sex 16 April TCTFBW/ Rave Review Child Sexual Abuse 13 May Cornell U. / S. Weiss Women in Society 14 June UYU Staff Tom Tran Use 6 T'b. M.S./ M. Northrup Summer survival 7 II. Parent Workshops: Parent workshops are offered at the . school and focus on parenting skills; survival of the teenage years; etc. •- Basic Parenting Skills (6 weeks) 7 adults (2 M; 5 F) Living w / a Teenager (6 weeks) 9 adults (2 M; 7 F) UYU Board Development 2 months 14 adults (6M; 8 F) • III. Tenth Period Activities: In an effort to access the greatest numbers of youth UYU offer tenth period activity classes in the middle school which augment and help diversify those already offered by the school itself. For March 1 - June 15: Banana Splits (5) 5th (7) 6th TOTAL: 12 youth Jazz Dance (7) 5th (2) 7th TOTAL: 9 youth Horse Course (9) 5th (2) 6th (1) 8th TOTAL: 12 youth • IV. School Coordinated Activity: Due to severe federal and local budget cutbacks, many traditional or unusual programs once • offered in the UYU area need cofacilitation or cooperation from allied agencies for continuation. UYU has again this year worked with the school in teaching and preparing youth for the annual • Fays Drug Quiz, coordinated by BOCES. UYU won the local • competition which provided them a trip to Albany to meet with Marty Luster and other N.Y.S. representatives. Drug Quiz 15 youth participated Albany Trip 5 youth participated EMPLOYMENT TOTAL: 68 youth 17 adults RECREATION Drop-in 156 Field Trips 29 Open Gym 60* • TOTAL: 240 youth 25 adults EDUCATION TOTAL: 97 youth 30 adults COMMUNITY EVENTS TOTAL: 30 youth 16 adults GRAND TOTAL: 435 youth 88 adults * estimate of unduplicated count • • . YOUTH PARTICIPATION • RECREATION 240 G • . EMPLOYMENT 66 36.2% 16.6% • it ;. ?.7r. zt4'+!.:^. 9777 `C.-422,4yJ�y/ COMMON.EVENTS 30 EDUCATION 07 22.3% ADULT PARTICIPATION RECREATION 26 26.4% iY''" 41.)...1+'r" EMPLOYMENT 17 • 19.3% w.uf'- i:t;i ;•s :.!;i OMMUN.EVENTS IS EDUCATION 30 16.2% 34.1% s . <.i>r a s'D Y . l i ey .r . . ` ` } ..S. s .. .,f 4 . �'..5, r. :y: :'.' :-�i��."•'r•s ' �' ' .1 • TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING ® TOWN HALL i JULY 20, 1993 • PRESENT: Chairman Gary Myers; Members: Catherine Stover, Ruth Kahn, Joanne Molino, David Tyler, Carl Mann Jr. , David Laurie, Secretary Roxanne Smith. ' ' OTHERS PRESENT: Sue Poolverde The meeting began at 7: 10 PM. Chairman Gary Myers opened the discussion with the statement that the land use maps for the • Town of Ulysses needed to be reproduced in such a way that they - would have a working copy. He said that Gregory Paul Press has the ability to make 11 x 17 color copies but that the maps were actually 24 x 36. The lake front have been done at twice the scale however; so there is the possibility that they could be reduced, then copies could easily be made and pieced in with the larger quadrants. Carl offered to check in Rochester and Buffalo . to see what copying services were available there. It was decided that 2 copies would be made of each of the main quadrants and then 1 copy would be given to Tompkins County, 1 copy the ® Master Plan Committee would keep and the master copies would be kept separate. Once the maps are completed what should the next step be? Who has the disk(s) of the documentation that has been done up to now Gary 'asked. Roxanne will contact Rita Brown to see if the information can be located. Gary stated that they had the hard copy and he knows that Rita gave a copy of the information to John Czamanske. Several sub-drafts had been done to arrive at what they have now said David. Gary asked what the next step should be once the maps have been completed? Sue volunteered - that when she worked on a master plan for the parks she followed some basic procedures. She spent a couple of years just in collecting data. She then had some uniform, basic background to work with. The next step was to come up with some policy statements as to what they were trying to do, based on standards for park and recreation; a mission statement. From there they did . their analysis and developed alternatives. Based on the procedure that Sue followed Gary said they have : done the basic background, they have stated some recommendations and goals (though they are over a year old) , and a mission type • statement has been created. Catherine pointed out that there were many new members that were not involved in that however. Gary stated that the analysis of the maps should occur next. He suggested that overlays on the maps could be done diagraming out • .: It ! ...! ?.•:. t.q�. :i ;t r ,'�t.-.:..-.::•+:4../.-...r .t ',t .tip .�t_v'. . n'•` '), .1 1 .-. . . < . .. +•! -7.';:!\•:. . :J • / s • n TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 • MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING JULY 20, 1993 „�. what occurs. Some possibilities would be open spaces, unique natural areas, utilities, and public transportation. David Tyler asked the question at what interval did Gary think they should ' • get public input on it? Gary thought the analysis needed to be completed and some alternatives suggested first; such as areas .- for development. As each development is shown (Residential , Commercial , etc. ) the pros and cons would be listed along side of them. The public could then offer more pros and cons at the - meeting(s) and they would be recorded in the minutes. A composite could then be created. The composite would then be presented at the next public meeting for further refinement. At some point the Planning Board needs to be involved as they are the governing body said David. They need to come once the Committee is ready for recommendations and alternatives said • Gary. David Tyler requested a time line to give the Planning Board. Gary said that he really did not know how long it would take; that 2 or 3 overlays could be completed in a work session , • • others will take longer. He also stated that documents will need to be prepared for the public presentation. There is a question as to whether the Town or the County will cover the costs of all of this. David said he was under the impression that the land — use maps were not final ; that they had been given to the Town for ® added input. Catherine said that the County was also working on a zoning map for the Town. David Tyler said that it would be good for this group to set some goals. Gary agreed. He stated .' . that he is not sure what the County' s time limits are. He expects the maps to be updated with the information that the Committee has provided them (red outlined areas) and some of the color coding and cross hatching to be changed. Hopefully once this has been done by the County some obvious things will occur. - The roads need to stand out. The final land use maps will _; probably be in a pocket folder rather than being bound as record copies. The overall size if color is to be shown would probably be the 24 x 36 drawings said Gary. . The next step is to make sure everyone has a copy of the . draft and looks through it by the next meeting said Gary. In the March 30th minutes (2nd page, 2nd from last paragraph) a mission statement was outlined. "The goal of the Master Plan Committee is to prepare for the future by: 1. Maintaining the rural character of the Town • 2. Respect our resources 3. Provide for balanced growth in the Town of Ulysses -- (as opposed to the community) . ” -• Gary felt that that was the first time that people who were on • • f •�. a�. : 411', i•.. .di. %/ at . 4 J .i:. .y, r.i':.t�.:' •t< ...F> .a.7• -;i ir i • • • • • TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 • MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING • JULY 20, 1993 • both sides of the issue (no growth versus growth) agreed on the • same basic issue. David Laurie asked a question regarding property along Rt. 89. He was told by the owner of the Glenwood Pines that all the property along Rt. 89 was zoned Residential and that owners of businesses were all given variances that had to be continually • re-applied for. Catherine stated that those businesses were all grandfathered in as they were established when the zoning took • • place. If the business which has the variance is abandoned for over a year then they return to Residential said David Tyler. This is correct except if they were zoned Commercial to begin • with said Catherine. Should these areas be documented queried David Laurie? Every time a business wants to make an addition they have to apply for a variance said Catherine. Carl , Gary and David Tyler all agreed that the variance goes with the property • not the owner if there is a change in ownership. Gary said that they should be documented. Non-conforming use is the property as • it is being used, it does not affect the whole parcel , said David Tyler. The meeting dates for August will be every two weeks (beginning August 3rd, then the 17th and the 31st) . Everyone should take a look through the draft first so they will be familiar with it before the August 3rd meeting . • David Tyler mentioned that the Planning Board will be having • a joint meeting with the Village in the near future. He will • update the Master Plan Committee when it has taken place. Catherine said that a request has been submitted to have water sleeves put in the two new bridges but that nothing has been finalized. The work session then began to complete the color coding of the land use maps. One quadrant needs to be completed . Gary • suggested that the Committee could break down into two groups. One group could finish the map while the other could begin to go through the draft. The meeting ended at 8: 10 pm and the work session ended at 9: 15 PM. • ., .. ICI..[ �-Y'• 'f' ' 1'\'1•+i �+•.a�v. ,11 /4'• .. \' .}. 1• • '} • , a • i ' V y +,t TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL JULY 26, 1993 PRESENT: Chairman David Tyler; Members: Budd Stover, Krys Cail ; Secretary Roxanne Smith OTHER PRESENT: Terry Forbes (one of two owners of the Pleasant - Grave Bed and Breakfast) Chairman David Tyler called the meeting to order at 7:45 PM. It was decided that approval of the minutes from the previous • Planning Board Meeting would be held until more Members were . present, ( Krys Cail was the only Member present from the meeting of July 12, 1993. ) Krys did mention that it would be good if the Master Plan Committee and the Planning Board could get on the same wavelength about what direction to take. David stated that by mid to end September the Committee and Board should aim for a joint meeting. It was also mentioned that Gregg and Dan were both interested in what kind of a mechanism could be used for a Town tax break for actively used agricultural lands. David said that it is a Planning and tax issue but not a zoning issue. Mr. Terry Forbes, part owner of the Pleasant Grove Associates introduced himself. David mentioned that the Route 96 corridor has been under consideration by the Board and that Pleasant Grove Associates had been invited to come and update them about their application. Mr. Forbes stated that it was in the Spring of 1991 that they applied for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) . They had purchased the property in 1989. The Bed and Breakfast opened in 1990. To the south of the B&B they would like to erect some professional buildings. They set it up as a PUD as advised by Alex Rachun. They filled out an impact form, then the whole file was sent to the County Planning Board • for their review. The Health Department came and out and did some tests for the septic system and it was approved. At that point they were advised by Alex to put the PUD on hold (the summer of 1992) . He mentioned that it would be better to do it as a 82 Zone. Mr. Forbes owns NRI Inc. which is an environmental consulting firm. At this point his office is in his home in the • Village of Cayuga Heights on Pleasant Grove Rd. He would like to establish these professional type offices partly for his use and also for doctors,etc. While David sought the large blueprint of Pleasant Grove Associate' s plan Krys queried Mr. Forbes an the septic system. She asked where the septic system was cited in relation to the building. He stated that they sampled the whole area and it could go anywhere. She then inquired whether they did a regular perk test or was a certain square footage approved? • • • • • TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 • PLANNING BOARD MEETING JULY 26, 1993 He stated that they did a regular perk test. She then mentioned that perk tests are done for residences; but that for larger • buildings you' re required bigger areas and in some cases evaporation analysis. They had the tests done in the summer of ' 91 he thought, but it might have been done last summer. He would have to check his file for the accurate date. Mr. Forbes said that they have had some inquires for the office space but nothing concrete as they have not had approval . David asked Mr. Forbes what he felt the advantages would be to be . located there. He stated that the location is excellent due to the proximity to the highway and to the services available in - Jacksonville (gas station, Post Office) . He said they are located right at the crest, the view across the lake is terrific • and that they would contribute to the value of the area. David • asked him hypothetically if the Halsey House were converted into • office space how would his site be superior to that site for an office. He said that his site would be specifically designed for an office, it would not be trying to refurbish some residential property. He said he would not like to be near the business behind there for a professional building. (Halsey Farm) At this ® point Krys said that they were trying to ascertain what would make a business consider a certain location over another. Krys • asked if he thought light industry would be compatible to his • • situation? He said it depends. He thinks software, computer stuff, technicians, more white collar would be compatible; not a lot of heavy machines. Krys mentioned that the Board had received legal advice that it was not in their best interest to grant PUDs to single land owners in relatively small areas. If this were to go into a B2 the neighbors would have to be considered. Mr. Forbes shared with the Board that his clientele comes from all over. He said he hay, had projects with the Department of Agriculture in Washington, projects in Albany. He does have clients who arrive by airplane. He said that he does • natural resource surveys and then puts them on a geographic information system. He works with two other companies, one in • Boulter, PA, the other in Troy. They are meteorological • • companies. They pass files electronically back and forth. They • forecast weather at a very high resolution. They can give you • • weather forecasts for one square kilometer any place in the U.S. or any place in the world. His business provides the geographic information system platform (GIS) . If people desire soil , • vegetation, contours, land use or any other information they • provide that with overlays. They also do field work. It is not • a high volume of client visitation however. He would like a place where the client can come and also a place for all of his computers. He has not discussed their plans with the neighbors iii 1 ' TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 • PLANNING BOARD MEETING JULY 26, 1993 but suspects that his partner Jim Gulledge has. Mr. Forbes said he was not sure if the neighbors would be interested in a Commercial designation. David asked if they had any plans for the balance of the property. The group did purchase a small piece of property so they would have access to Cole Grove Rd. ~' said Mr. Forbes. That would be helpful for fire protection said Krys. Are there wetlands on the property asked David? There are some zones of cat tails said Mr. Forbes. Budd asked Mr. Forbes if Pleasant Grove Associates could work with the 132. He said they certainly could work with it, it would be more than adequate. They have not felt any great • pressure due to the glut of office space available currently; but that should change. The landscaping would be phased in with each building. This property was not purchased with the plan of putting in office space but it certainly lends itself to that. There is an awful lot of traffic. If another area nearby were designated a B2 which had water and sewer they might be ' interested he said. He mentioned that Jim has been on a committee to help do some studies to get water. He said that the B&B has 3 rooms and that basically it is used to pay the mortgage. Their long term plans are to keep it as it is, though it could always go back to a residence. He has used the B&B for his clients, though it is a drive from Cayuga Heights. He would like to know what the procedure is at this point. Krys said that the PUD is not closed off to them, it is still an option. She advised that the B2 might be the correct way to go. Mr. Forbes said that they have held off because Alex said the B2 might be the better way to go. Krys said • it would be helpful if they could get statements from neighbors .saying that they would be agreeable to a commercial ~district. She said if they want to make a formal request to. the Town Board that their zoning be changed that would be an option that would get a yes or no answer. At this point in the meeting Mr. Forbes was thanked for coming to the meeting and then he departed (8:30) . David said there was a reason why he queried Mr. Forbes about the Halsey House. He mentioned that there appears to be some financing problems. To create a B&B it will cost in the neighborhood of $250,000.00; to create business offices it will be about $100,00.00. Ingrid and David Potenza are the owners of the property. Krys stated that concerning the Pleasant Grove application she sees nothing particular other than that it is on Rt. 96 that would be positive for a B2. If Rt. 96 was opened right up the ® businesses do not support each other. .t t'Jtii'� .'t.�6 t. P, . .. •/ ♦i:A ' ' I, . r•5' •� ar -! . . . :S .i 1 . 3 • TOWN OF ULYSSES 4 PLANNING BOARD MEETING JULY 26, 1993 • The chairman stated that he would really like to hash out what the Board discussed (Residential Zoning) at the last meeting when more Members were present. Krys asked David what he thought J. about the agriculture being a zone or being an exempt use. Providing that you have 10 aces you can farm anywhere she said. Essentially you can farm pretty much in the whole Town stated David. People like open spaces, they like Agricultural so we are going to have to come up with something that will encourage this or we will lose it forever. This is a topic that the Master Plan Committee and the Town Planning Board have to wrestle with. There is a Veteran' s exemption so perhaps it could be done for farmers also said David. The Town did not pass that though, just the County, said Krys. The County does have a mechanism though it is becoming less and less every year said David. The benefit • comes to the property owner and eventually that will hopefully benefit the farmer in terms of rent. The dollar amount has to come off of that parcel and it is based on the gross sales. The Master Plan Committee is trying to show the lay of the land said David. The Board said that the categories for existing uses do not make sense from a zoning point of view said Krys. The categories were an arbitrary thing used just to make a • distinction said David. Krys wanted to make sure that those categories were not suggestions for actual zoning. David said they were not; that they were just a way of differentiating the spectrum of what is out there. This way you could get a sense of density and of use by a quick look at the color scheme. Armed with that information you could then decide where an R1 or R2, etc. could go. Krys then asked David what he thought of the categories. He responded that he liked the categories but that minimum lot size had not been addressed. A thorough look has not happened said Krys. • As a follow up to a few meetings ago David spoke to the Chairman of the Village Planning Board about having a joint meeting. Their agenda for their next meeting will be about various topics that they would like to discuss with the Town Planning Board. The main issue will be about water and sewer; some dialogue needs to be initiated. The more discussion there is about Commercial and Multi Unit Housing it becomes clear that they have got to have water and sewer said David. The Town does - not have the where with all to set up a separate district but the Village does have the facility. Perhaps a partnership could be set up so everyone could benefit ultimately. The meetings for August will be on the 15th and 30th. The II/ meeting adjourned at 9:05 PM. . lig , • . .. . . , . : . : . . • TOWN OF ULYSSES ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TOWN HALL AUGUST 2, 1993 • • PRESENT: Chairwoman: Gail Zabawsky; Members: Ken Christianson , Carl Mann, George Tselekis, James Hickey; Zoning ' Officer: Alex Rachun; Secretary: Roxanne Smith ALSO PRESENT: Frank Howe and future Mrs. Frank Howe, Ingrid Potenza. • The Chairwoman called the hearing to order at 7:30 PM. She announced that Mr. Howe's request would be heard first. Mr. Howe would like to build an addition to his home on 1237 Kraft Road. '.. This had been denied under Article V, Section II of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that the side yard right of way must be 15 • feet. Mr. Howe expl,'iined to the members that he would like to add • a family room to his house. He is getting married and needs the • additional space. That specific location (west side) is the only place that it can be built. The survey is from December 10, 1991 . The neighbors have received notification and there have . been no objections. . III Zoning Member George Tselekis made the motion as follows: • WHEREAS: The variation is not substantial in relation to the requirements; • WHEREAS: There will not be an increase in population density; or increased burden on available govern- ' ' ment facilities; no substantial change in the character of the neighborhood; WHEREAS: There is no alternate way that this addition can be built to his house; • He proposed that the variance be granted. Ken seconded the motion. The Chairwoman called for a vote as follows: • Mr. Tselekis - aye . Mr. Christianson - aye Mr. Mann - aye Mrs. Zabawsky - aye • The variance has been approved. Mr. Hickey arrived at 7:37 PM. _. t;r .. . ,:t'..:-.i.-"..r.' r -" i,i;a'. :T••t64. y ;, 1..0 - •V '1•L i:(?• ,. .i. L , I TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AUGUST 2, 1993 •, The Chairwoman announced that the second hearing of the . ' evening was for Ingrid and David Potenza for the property located at 2057 Trumansburg Road. They are requesting another variance in addition to the one approved on October 6. 1992 allowing them to establish an Inn in a Residential Zone. This second request is to allow for the Country Inn to be used as office space. This • was denied by the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance in that office space • is allowed in a Business District when the building is not occupied by the owner. (Article IV, Sections I and II . ) Ingrid Potenza stated that she would like to keep the use variance granted in October but would like to make it broader; giving them '. more flexibility in there ability to get financial backing. This • would allow them to possibly rent out space to as much as 4 businesses and or retailers. She would like to see as occupants • doctors, lawyers, architects etc. Ken asked how many parking spots there would be. At this point Ingrid said she would like to show them and brought out her diagrams. The entry has already • been changed for safety purposes. There are no plans to raise the road but some culverts may be changed. Carl asked if it would be helpful to change the Zoning from Residential to • Business. Alex stated that the Board probably has the ability to do that. It could be a multi-use complex. It is clearly indicated that the developer wants to keep the option of the Country Inn open. They would like to target as many investors as •- possible. The hardship incurred is that this is a very unique property in the Town of Ulysses. It is a landmark and a house that does not lend itself to residential use due to the location. - . . The visibility and noise would make it more ideal and appropriate for Commercial . Jim questioned whether these would be mutually ' • exclusive uses. Ingrid stated she would like both to give her the flexibility with her backers. Carl asked which ever backing . comes first decides what it will be? Ingrid said yes. The floor plan will not be destroyed if professional offices or retail come in. The historic value will still be there. If in three years funding comes in for the Inn nothing will have been hurt. The electrical work, plumbing and painting will still have to be done regardless. The planning and preparation have been in the works for over a year now. Jim stated that for business purposes he is not sure that it is the best location. Ingrid said she prefers the Inn but it all is contingent on the investors. Is retail • something that we could allow in a Residential Zone asked Gail? Yes, if we provide a use variance responded Jim. You can clearly give a variance said Alex; the question is an what grounds you establish it. The developers do not really know what the fate of this building is going to be other than the fact that it can not be used as a Residence said Jim. The use of the variance could IIIbe extended to incorporate • • • y. "r i .. � : .`.. '•i °t'. .._ ±i':^„!..e .•:i.(::,r fir. '.r' .l' t ;.e' �i.ity:7, s •i . .. i fe�.a. . t:CiJ: rows OF ULY55E5 3 •' ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AUGUST 2, 1993 any use that would otherwise be permitted in a Business or Commercial Zone; this would allow her some flexibility said Jim. Carl suggested that F and G should be disallowed. (Theater, gas station, bowling alley; page 5, Section III Business Districts. ) George asked if there would be sign limitations? Carl said they would have to contend with as many as 4 signs. Carl asked if they were anticipating putting on any additions to the house? At one point Ingrid stated that they were considering building a guest house to add more rooms and parking to cover up some of the existing neighbors but that would be way in the future. Carl stated that the variance may, not extend to additional buildings. Jim stated that he was prepared to make the following motion: As a preface to this motion he would like to incorporate the preface to the resolution of October 6, 1992; which states that the building is not suitable to residential due in part to its large size. The area is partially developed commercially. It is close to a car dealership and grocery store. This action • would preserve the historical and functional value of the building. ® WHEREAS: It has been found by the Board that the land can not yield a reasonable return if used only for a purpose permitted in the district for which it is located; WHEREAS: The plight of the owner is due to unique circumstances and not to the general conditions and the vicinity of the property; WHEREAS: The Board further finds that the previously granted resolution does not give enough flexibility; Be it resolved: The Board grant a use variance to permit any use that would be permitted in the Business district as set forth in the Zoning Ordinance of April 8, 1978 with the exception of that contained in Section III , paragraph f and g. This is specifically conditioned on the continued existence of the building. Ken seconded the motion. s11 • • TOWN OF ULYSSES 4 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ® AUGUST 2, 1993 The Chairwoman called for the vote as follows: Mr. Christianson - aye Mr. Mann - aye Mr. Tselekis - aye • Mr. Hickey - aye Mrs. Zabawsky - aye The application for the variance has been approved. Carl Mann made the motion for adjournment. George seconded the motion. All were in favor, the motion passed unanimously. The hearing adjourned at 8:00 PM. � (o . J }�. i ,. . },.♦ .t .I.�n.��*_�i:.i. ::�L.., t. A.. i .,e, 4 4 it �r if. t.r.� Y ,'. or • nt rst'. TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING AUGUST 3, 1993 TOWN HALL • PRESENT: Chairman: Gary Myers; Members: Catherine Stover, Carl Mann Jr. , Joanne Molino, David Tyler; Zoning Officer: • Alex Rachun; Secretary: Roxanne Smith. • • OTHERS PRESENT: Sue Poelvoorde The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:20 PM. Gary said that at least one more set of colored copies of the land use • maps will be needed. He volunteered to get an estimate from Gregory Paul Press. The originals are 24 X 36. Carl investigated and it would be $66.00 for one colored quadrant. There is just one location (in Syracuse) that has the ability to do this. The other option would be to get the colored copies done piecemeal , and then the Committee would cut and piece them together. The estimate to reproduce them would be about $75.00 then. Gary inquired ' whether Catherine thought the Town Board would approve the expense. She thought that they would • Gary stated that with just an outline of the Town with over lays of unique natural areas, roadways, etc. they can begin to do their analysis. The overlays can be done on tracing paper or mylar. If the County could re-plot their map (they are off slightly) ; the overlays would be more effective. Alex said that he is dealing with Joan from the County. The Zoning Map is pretty much done for the Zoning Ordinance. Alex does not think the County has the ability to reproduce . the Land Use Maps. The lake front maps are currently at a different scale. The Committee really just needs a master map, not all the quadrants • broken down said Gary. The earliest would be in two weeks for • the maps to be completed said Gary. Catherine asked Gary to call soon to get the accurate estimate. The bills are not approved until they have been submitted. Funding would not come until the following meeting said Catherine. (Town Board Meeting) Alex • stated that there is a lot of money left over from the attorney's section of the budget. Alex said that he will call Joan anyway and perhaps he can have them back in a week. Then it becomes a moot issue. The County is short staffed. Jeannie left and so did Mary and they are down to new people on all levels said Alex. They were very quick to make the changes. Gary queried whether the Committee could get a copy of the program (disc) . Then he could do some work independently. It may be a possibility stated Alex. Alex inquired about the colors. What if the County has trouble duplicating these specific choices? Their colors are fine said Gary. The colors used were because of what was • III Yi I TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 • MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING AUGUST 3, 1993 available in marker selection. The maps need to indicate that • there is not as much Residential as previously shown; that there is a lot more open space. An additional color needs to be added • said Gary. If the County had not produced those maps to begin with we would still be floundering said Gary. We are still the only Town with these maps stated Alex. Eventually the County is going to do this for all the Towns. By doing the Zoning maps at the same time we killed two birds with one stone stated Catherine. ' A Use Variance has been granted to Halsey House to build ' office space stated Alex; in addition to keeping their Variance .. for the Bed and Breakfast use. The discussion ended at 7:55 PM. The final work session to • complete the color coding of the Land Use Maps then began. That • session ended at 9:00 PM. III • "- lts�qj s,yi}?�`ni ':G^s..t`,ir tls : s `:f r. 5•� . . ,i � 'I • /i� f..- , "s$�•"'s{ drti .. t .. . t 1004, a TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING August 10 , 1993 Present: Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis, Tom Reitz; Highway Superintendent . James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha' Georgia. Absents Robert Weatherby, Alex Rachun. Others Present: Julia/FreoPress, Marion 8oratynaki , Joan •ti Ormondroyd. Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting, of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7:30 pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Hogan entertained .a motion, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by • Mr. Curtis to approve the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of July 13, 1993. Mrs. ,.Stover pointed out an error on page 5 (Mr. Meeker's 'report) , should say 'not ' rather than 'now' . . The minutes were unanimously approved with the correction.' " Report: Trumansburc Fire Department ' No report. Report : Representative James Mason " Attending County Board Meeting. CLAIMS Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #237-273 in the amount .of $10,152 . 97 : Moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mr: Reitz . . . Hr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mra. Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. _ SUP$RVISOR' S FINANCIAL REPORT . Mr. Hogan distributed Cash Flow statements and reviewed. HEARING OF INDIVIDUALS AND/OR DELEGATIONS • Marion Boratynski spoke regarding spraying on Curry Road. Noticed an odor and realized that spraying had occurred. Hadn't received any notification that this was to be done. Has contacted DEC; found also, through Mr. Meeker, that the chemical • company is Agro Statics from Buffalo. Called the chemical company and was told that the chemical is safe enough to drink. In checking with DEC there were regulations not followed by this chemical company. they sprayed within 100 ' of my house; no posted signs. ' Mrs. Joan Ormondroyd stated that they noticed spraying taking place , and did not go out of their house. Ms . Boratynski feels that the spraying is unnecessary. Mr. Curtis asked if DEC was following up on this. Mr. Meeker said they contacted him and didn't find anything wrong other than the chemical company left some containers along the road. - Ms . Boratynski disagreed. Another issue is. with the guard rails and they are not to be sprayed if ithey are within a certain distance t.9�i+.. •'�,v l�.evf�f. 1'..'.�..y}.T`• :J.•, j�•• V:'+ d. „ t1r. . :a')i`"• .:r'i;.i °•> s •% . (J�K" r..£t 21 Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting August 10, 1993 from homes or water ways . Mr. Meeker said he is within his right to spray. Spoke with a '• dairy farmer and he was delighted that Mr. Meeker was going to spray and keep the stuff down. Ms. Boratynaki said these' areas are six feet deep and not blocking the view, etc. Mr. Meeker said that is because the highway crew has been through there and dug them out. Explained the need to keep the ditches cleaned out and trees and weeds controlled. He does have the right (responding to Ms. Boratynski 's comment that he had no right to spray) to spray the highway right-of- way. . . the chemical he uses is not q• restricted chemical . • Mr. Hogan asked how many years the Town has been spraying; does the County and other Towns in the area spray? Mr. Meeker said Ulysses has been spraying for years and Yes, the County and other Towns do spray. Ms . Boratynski said that doesn't make it o1%. It was within 100 ' of her house, she had to walk through it, it's her health. Ms. Boratynski said there is a difference of opinion and everyone needs to find out what the regulations are and work together. DEC is going to contact the chemical company. Mr. Hogan said that spraying is necessary to control road growth and promote safety. Based on the history of the program. . .and we • have all received assurance that these chemicals are not dangerous. . .think you point is well taken about being notified. If DEC has serious objections about the way things are being done, obviously the chemical company would need to conform to DEC regulations. Ms . Boratynski asked why do we need this at all in this community; could we not have input as to whether or not we want to be subjected to this kind of chemical? We have no guarantees how we will be affected by this type of chemical . You are elected officials and are elected to listen to us . . .no one has asked me if I wanted this on my property. Mr. Meeker said that Ms . Boratynski was welcome to contact him. Mr. Hogan said there is no reason to argue. You have serious concerns and we are listening to them. We will discuss them with DEC. Mr. Reitz asked Mr. Meeker how much notice he receives prior to the chemical company arriving to spray. . .Mr. Meeker said perhaps a day. OLD BUSINESS GrassRoots Festival Mr. Hogan said he had received a couple of complaints from residents. Mr. Reitz said that the topic was a hot one at the Village Meeting on August 9th. The Village passed a tentative • resolution saying that they would like to have us work with the Fair Association and try to do a couple of things. Work with the -• GrassRoots Festival organizers to terminate the noise at midnight or pass a Town of Ulysses Noise Ordinance limiting the decibel of noise after a certain time. Would cover all events that are held at the Fair Grounds, which is located in the Town and under our jurisdiction. Mr. Hogan said you can't discriminate. Mr. Reitz agreed. Village Board members expressed that they had received many, many complaints. Mr. Hogan said he too received telephone calls. Mrs . Stover said she would be against a noise ordinance with decibel readings; would open up a can of worms. Mr. Hogan said • r. • • • Town of Ulysses 3 r. Regular Town Board Meeting August 10, 1993 • a Yea, you would need special equipment to measure it. There should be a workable agreement with the Town, Village and Fair Association and this particular group to perhaps reach an acceptable noise relationship. . n . Mr. Curtis asked if this couldn' t perhaps be a part of the • contract that the Fair Association has with this group? Mr. 4 . Reitz said that is true. There is going to be a meeting on Monday, August 16 at 7 :00 pm at the Village Hall , one issue will be the Festival and the other is the Fire Department's internal request to purchase a. used• truck. - - Mr. Meeker said one of the biggest complaints was about parking. Mrs . Georgia said that this is bound to grow in popularity and perhaps planning parking and get it under control before it grows • out of proportion. :i. Rudcets - 1994 Mr. Hogan distributed a copy of the budget calendar. Budget j. worksheets to be passed out. Mr. Reitz-, said a meeting with the Village on September 22 at 7:00 pm to discuss the Fire Department . budget and Youth has been scheduled. • Resolution - Aileen Beer . , Mr. Hogan entertained and moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz the following resolution: • • - - . . . . . • • WHEREAS:- . Aileen R. Beers. has served as Human Services Coalition Representative for the Town of Ulysses for many,. many -years,. and; :. . . . _ _ WHEREAS: Aileen has served the Town with enthusiasm,. integrity, , common sense and a never tiring spirit of community service,- and; WHEREAS: During her years of service she has earned the respect of caring people throughout Tompkins County; . NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED: That the Town Board of the Town of t Ulysses does officially commend and thank Aileen H. Beers • . for a job well done. - Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye • Mrs. Stover -Aye Mr. Curtis Aye ' Approved. . •• Election Expenses Mr. Reitz asked if anything had been done with Election Expenses that was tabled in March? Mr. Hogan said we haven't heard ' anything about it. . . . . • Indemnification & Worker's Compensation Mr. Curtis asked if anything had happened with either of these items . Mr. Hogan said he spoke with Joe Farrell . Regarding insurance against individuals, our insurance does not cover that, we would have to -spend a couple of thousand dollars a year to , have individual employee -coverage. Will have. to get_more . information on that. •_Mr. Curtis said this. would be . f or someone • like Alex.. He. could.rvery likely be sued individually, as well as the:Town, if their building burns down,. etc. . .Think_tbe .Town . needs to indemnify him- or say if he makes-.a judgement call , he ' doesn' t have- torge out and hire- a. lawyer, since he- is working for 10 1V Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting August 10 , 1993 us. Mr . Hogan said are you saying that we could do it with local legislation rather than additional insurance? Hr. Curtis asked if we currently have insurance if someone sues? Mr. Hogan said the Town has liability coverage, Yes. Mr. Curtis asked if that would cover the Article 78? Mrs . Georgia said a claim has been filed and is being reviewed. Mr. Curtis said he is concerned that the employee does not have to cover any legal costs personally. Mr. Hogan said he spoke about Workmane Comp with Joe also. Gave him information on payroll breakdown from Jeanne and Joe was going to review it with his auditor. NEW BUSINESS Taughannock Falls State Park Request Hr. Hogan read a letter from Taughannock Falls State Park requesting No Parking Signs be placed along the Jacksonville Road on the south side of the road starting at the bridge to the crest of the hill . A new parking area has been established across the road. Mr. Meeker said this is not within the Town's jurisdiction. It 's a County road. It has beon declared a State road through May 1994 so it would have to be worked out with them. Soil & Water Conservation District Staffing Mr. Hogan asked the Board if they had reviewed this and what they • felt? " Mr. Curtis asked if there wasn't in alternative. . .staff person is at Community Corners now. . .currently don' t have a contract for them to do staff work, but they' ll do it. Was J. explained that they work like an extension agent, but they would • need to get some money from the County to do that . Would probably be cheaper if that was done rather than another staff • person. Mr. Hogan said there's a lot of people on the County payroll r• already, seems like a duplication of effort . Mr. Reitz said they are saying they could subcontract to existing expertise. Mr. Curtis said he would support that . . .increasing the roll of the Soil Conservation Service, if they wanted to do that. • Further discussion ensued. Mr. Hogan said that he would want to check with local politicians prior to signing on to this. Mr. Reitz felt further discussion could take place at the September meeting, and moved to table this discussion, seconded by Mr. Curtis . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. REPORTS Town Clerk, Mrs. Georgia, reported that for the month of July $1,734. 64 was collected, of which $1,096.32 was turned over to the Supervisor along with the monthly report (copies to the Board) . Distributed new abstract to the Board for their input . Also, sent inquiry on the community map packet received from Mr. Curtis . Don't get involved until they have a map to work with. Talked with Joan at County Planning and was told a new aerial was done. . .would like to work with the Village and Chamber of yt :..... ♦.A:,.�:• i :Y,!.,. ..,.. ..� ' Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Town Hoard Meeting August 10 , 1993 Commerce, see if it could be joint effort. Mr. Curtis said if you had the Chamber on board, would probably have all the ads needed. Read a letter from Senator Kuhl regarding warrant checks on homeless facility operators. Mr. Curtis asked if we weren't going to get a map with roads and parcel numbers indicated on it? Mrs. Georgia said she didn't think so. Mr. Curtis said that he thought that was in the contract for the $1500 .00 . Mr. Curtis asked if the tapes were saved? Mr. Hogan said the minutes would indicate what was decided; read the contract the Town signed. no mention of a large map. Mr. Curtis said he would still like to see a large map (5' x8' ) with all the tax parcel numbers. Hichwav Suverintendent . James Meeker, reported they are ready to start sealing the roads; patching has been done; hot mix paving on Hinging Post; cutting brush on Rabbit Run. Letter from Martin Luster. • Code Enfo cement Officer, Alex Rachun's report given by Mrs. Georgia. Total of seven permits issued. Mr. Hogan questioned the availability of the fire inspection report . • MAO Members Mr. Reitz announced the meeting with Village on budget for Youth and Fire Department at 7:00 pm on September 22nd. Also on August 16 at 7:00 pm meeting to discuss a Fire Dept. truck which is a rescue vehicle they would like to purchase now. The Fire Chief likes to capitalize on what he has available, using resources he has available. Now when there is an emergency, a number of vehicles need to respond with different equipment . They would ® like to purchase a used rescue vehicle and consolidate the equipment from the three or four trucks into one. The used truck was made in early 1970's and selling for $24,000 . Would like to push the schedule back on repurchase of a planned truck in 1996. The John Mack memorial service at the Jacksonville cemetery went very well . The highway crew and Jim Brown did a very good job on getting the cemetery spruced up. Mr. Reitz is working with a couple of youth groups and individuals and the Jacksonville cemetery will be mapped out this month and hopefully in next couple of months replace and stand up the tombstones that have been tipped over. Mrs. Stover said thanks to Tom and Jim and someone from the Village, they got the tree planted. Also, the Master Plan Committee meets every two weeks . Mr. Curtis talked with Hunt Engineers . Going to look into something that might be more modest . CORRESPONDENCE Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence. Hearing no further business , Hr. Hogan moved to adjourn to Executive Session to discuss a personnel matter/Retirement System. Mr. Curtis seconded the motion and it was unanimously approved. Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn the Executive Session at 10 : 20pm, seconded by Mrs . Stover. Unanimously approved. Mr. Curtis moved to adjourn the Regular Town Board Meeting at 10:21pm, seconded by Mr. Reitz . Unanimously approved. Town of Ulysses �..�_. . _ . . ti ; . 6 , Regular Town board Meeting August 10, 1993 Respeoitul l y submittl'd', r t • Marsha L. Georgia, Town Clerk pm t !I . ...1 'I {: • : t 4 . it • •. t. . .. ' ,t l rA , . 44. 444 ' 4. • .I. I t,J\..� \ f', .• S (. , i tr 1 +,., 'D' 1 .'t 'L• , r t 1 t • r I. . ' 1 r• I .I 1r - , . 4. • • • • .. is . , •. , :� { u • I t • ', 11 • • • • • • 'l'CP TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL AUGUST 16, 1993 Present: Chairman David Tyler; Members: Budd Stover, Krys Cail; Zoning Officer: Alex Rachun; Secretary: Roxanne Smith The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 : 35 PM. The Members rewiewed the minutes from July 26 , 1993 . On page 2, at the end of the first paragraph "Later comments by Board Members - stated that they had been led to believe by Pleasant Grove that they were able to move the project along only with Health Depart- :' ment septic approval" was added. On the last page, last paragraph hyphens were added to where-with-all. The minutes could not be . approved because a quorum was not present. Alex Rachun arrived at 7 : 40 PM. He verified that he was not aware of Pleasant Grove having any problems with the Health De- partment. At this point the Members decided that they must have received that information directly from Jim Gulledge. The Members decided to cancel the August 30th meeting. The meeting has been re-scheduled to September 20, 1993 at 7 : 30 PM at the Town Hall. At some point, probably on a Thursday, there will be a joint meeting with the Village Planning Board. David requested that each Town Board Member receive a copy of the General Development Plan for the Village of Trumansburg (before the joint meeting) to peruse. The Members related their discussion with Pleasant Grove member, Terry Forbes,to Alex Rachun. They had asked Mr. Forbes why he thought their location would be good for the B2 Zone. His response basically was because they already own the land and the view is terrific. The Members advised Mr. Forbes that if he were to make an application it should be for the larger area, not just his property. This way there will be input from neighbors, it will make them get out and do a little legwork said Budd. The Chairman then requested that the Members decide on an agenda for the joint meeting with the Village. Budd said he would like to know what the status of the Village ' s water system is regarding its ' capacities, maintenance and whether it will be updated. Krys stated that she is aware of new regulations coming in (from the annual County report) and would like to know what the effects of that on what currently exists will be. • David suggested one way to lead into this discussion with the Village would be to share with them the ideas of the Master Plan Committee. What makes sense for the future of the Village and Town would be to extend water and sewer out to Halsey House • and Auble' s the other way said David. It' s an economic issue updating the system. There will need to be a large amount of capitol expenditures. It would be a good idea to ask the Village what they would like to see the Town do said David. Krys said that there is one designated industrial area in the Village. It is near the old Agway. Most of that area is owned by Bower and the Church of Assembly of God who are not pro growth said Alex. The tanks look out of place. It is not a logical place for industrial said David. t 4 fh :, tYi M. y t L. i {j:::i. :yi.�.. . � aim ,,. al ",;, f' Aid d �' 1 ,� ,.;i..,.• , ilk' TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING :' • • AUGUST 16, 1993 The Village han boon using their water/sewer as a growth tool/zoning tool said Alex . The Town will be forced to seek other sources creating a competing development area which could be very detrimental to the Village said David. We would like to strengthen the Village an a center. Krys said it would be a good idea to look at this purely as an economic issue (not as a zoning issue) . We need hard data on how long the equip- ment is going to last, what will be the cost to replace it and whether it has grandfather aspects in the regulatory system. . . Peter Meskill is the trustee in charge of the water and sewer • said Alex. They just spent $300 , 000 . 00 upgrading the sewer treatment system. The water system is antiquated. It has as- bestos in the system, old lines , breaks in the system in winter. They certainly could use a rate and a half said Alex. Where • ever the B2 goes it will have to have water and sewer to be ., effective said David. One thing for the future would be to invite the people from Bolton Point (Southern Cayuga Municipal Water System) to come and give us a presentation said Krys. The southern part of the Town could be serviced. • When water comes in it brings in employment, tourism, etc. everyone benifits said Alex. The Village as the center will fail without encouragement; even the things people fear may be • helpful said David. Few downtowns are as dead as ours is on a - Sunday. We have the resources but few places to stay and no shopping said Alex. Development needs to be thematic. Owego is . a good example said Krys. Mainstay shopping is not supported said Alex. People (frequently because of their employment) I need to shop in the evening. They need to feel safe. Malls are accomodating in this way said Krys . At this point the Chairman turned the discussion to the • breakdown of the Residential Zoning. R1 - up to 2 acres • R2 - 2 acres plus R3 - multi-family ' Krys wondered how to define the area needed for the Multi- • family designation. Do you define it by unit; will there be set • backs between the units? It' s a lot less expensive to go with :, townhouses or rowhouses she said. We ' re talking about size of lot also. A way to make a lot of money would be to have what • they have out in Enfield. It ' s very crowded, yet it does not broaden the tax base. Are we looking at a large building with several units in it that might be closer to the Village with water and sewer lines? (Urban) In which case the requirement for a lot of land may not make sense. You can have an R31 and an R32. Aubles would be a logical place for more intense use said David. Another thing to think about is manufactured • housing, it doesn' t add much to the tax base said Krys. A per- II fect example would be what Bill Holtkamp wants to put on his property said Alex. He wants to put 4 to 6 mods in currently. The Inn will be a barn to house equipment and the rest of the • land will be for the modulars . He could rent then to students • from September to May, and then rent them weekly during the summer and do quite nicely said David. My thought is to look at the subdivision thing and write the Multi-family such that it does in fact apply to multi-dwellings on impact parcels said Krys. If they are indeed townhouses then each wall becomes a property line said Alex. • • TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 PLANNING BOARD MEETING AUGUST 16, 1993 • Discussion ensued concerning the selling off of avail- ' able frontage land in the Town with little or no regulation. One of the problems with doing this is that all the land be- • hind the frontage is then limited for its potential use (land •, locked) . Access roads need to be put in said Krys. Private • roads under the Martin Act are a problem which then can become a problem for the Town said David. You can petition to make a private drive a public road than the Town eventually has to maintain it regardless said Krys. Older people don't think on down the line as it won' t be their problem she said. Getting back to the Multi-family housing it was agreed that a detailed look needed to be taken. Should a per unit set back • be required, should there be some sort of required space sur- ' rounding a unit and also a limit to how many are attached to- , gether said Krys. Krys made the motion to adjourn and Budd seconded it. The meeting adjourned at 9: 15 PM. • • . !•... . ; ; .. a . _. ,. .. . t • I, :J I . TOWN OF ULYSSES . MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE AUGUST 17, 1993 TOWN HALL PRESENT: Members: Joanne Moline, Catherine Stover, David Tyler; Zoning Officer: Alex Rachun; Secretary: Roxanne Smith OTHERS PRESENT: Sue Poelvoorde and Tom Reitz . • The meeting began at 7:20 PM. Zoning Officer Alex Rachun had brought in the Land Use Maps from the County. He said that • the County does have the ability to create a new set of maps. A planner who is a student from Cornell University is doing his internship with the County. He will be working on digitizing the Maps; noting all the changes that the Committee made. They will be brought down to 1500 so the graphic overlays can be used . The major roads will be put in and the new Agricultural/Residential zone. They are very near completion. David Tyler suggested that they begin work on reviewing the Master Plan - Draft 3 from June 22, 1991 . Roxanne will contact Rita Brown on locating the original disk. The Committee decided l' III to begin with page 6, AGRICULTURE. The evening was spent editing that one page except for the last paragraph. It was suggested that the Committee address the topic that currently farmers can not sell land as an on going business at the next meeting. That meeting will be August 31 , 1993 at 7:00 PM. The meeting adjourned at 9: 15 PM. Attached please find revised page 6, AGRICULTURE, Master Plan - . Draft 3, dated June 22, 1991 . i AGRICULTURE c Since its early settlement Ulysses has been a strong • agriculture community. Town residents cite the area as a farm community and the rural character as a large contributor to the , perceived quality of life for many residents. In addition there is evidence that the citizenry of Ulysses supports the goal of maintaining an agricultural economic and cultural base. The Town of Ulysses is in an agricultural district. Since `' land is the chief raw material used in farming, the population i . density is much lower on agricultural land than on residential land. Therefore, farmers are not required to use the infrastructure to the extent that residential users or perhaps other commercial users do. Farms traditionally use fewer services that require a higher tax base. In addition much of the • farm profit goes directly back to the community to purchase goods e and services. • The farm family, in addition, provides other services to the community. Farming preserves the land from erosion, encourages .' • varied wild life and bird population diversity and keeps the land fertile through crop rotation. Only a major public sector initiative on the part of the community could supply such large amounts of "green-space" or "wildlife refuge", which the farming industry now provides. As in many areas in this country farming costs have outstripped profit. Costs of equipment, labor, raw materials, • chemical additives, etc. have risen faster than the revenues received by farmers. Where large farms are more able to take advantage of price supports and subsidies, the complexity of the programs applications make it difficult for the •small farmer to benefit to the same extent. Typically farmers receive less than minimum wage when all farming hours are tabulated. Historically • this has been true, but in the past the farm family produced much of its own food, fiber and fuel . Today farms are more specialized and farm family members must often work at other jobs to augment farm income. In many rural areas, including the Town of Ulysses, there has been pressure to develop farm land. Farmers often cite • increasing property taxes, cost of production and level or , ...7. decreasing product price as reasons for selling land. The best agricultural land is often most desirable for new housing and ' commercial development since it is generally flat, well drained , and frequently scenic. Development speculation tends to drive up land prices. This presents a dilemma to farmers given the disadvantageous conditions of farming today. REV 00a it TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TOWN HALL AUGUST 31, 1993 PRESENT: CHAIRMAN GARY MYERS; MEMBERS: CATHERINE STOVER, RUTH KAHN, JOANNE MOLINO, DAVID TYLER; • SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITH OTHERS PRESENT: SUE POELVOORDE The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 : 35 PM. Roxanne has spoken with Rita Brown concerning the original disk for the Master Plan - Draft 3. She has the disk but it' s in MacIntosh form. Rita said she will mail the disk to Roxanne. Gary said that hopefully by the next meeting (September 21 , 1993 - 7: 00 PM) the maps will be completed. They then can break down into two groups; one will continue working on the draft, the other will begin to tackle the overlays. The Members proceeded to revise pages 6 and 7, the section discussing. Agriculture. (See attached. ) The meeting adjourned at 9: 10 PM. t� i' { ♦M1 t J �i 3 l4itr �. '•. ±J. .� C .e1;1h :.;..r fit„ �.— .n. . t..< f' `l J AGRICULTURE Since its early settlement Ulysses has been a strong agriculture community. Town residents value the area as a farm community and the rural character as a large contributor to the quality of life. In addition there is evidence* that the citizenry of Ulysses supports the goal of maintaining an agricultural economic and cultural base. The Town of Ulysses is in an agricultural district. Since land is the chief raw material used in farming, the population density is much lower on agricultural land than on residential land. Farmers do not use the infrastructure to the extent that residential users or other commercial users do. Farms tradition- ally use fewer services that require a higher tax rate. In ad- dition much of the farm profit goes directly back to the community to purchase goods and services. • The farm family, also, provides other services to the com- munity. Good farming practices preserve the land from erosion, encourage varied wild life and bird population diversity and keep • the land fertile through crop rotation. Only a major public • sector initiative on the part of the community could supply such large amounts of "green-space" or "wildlife refuge" as the farm- ing industry now provides. • As in many areas of this country, farming costs have out- stripped profit. Costs of equipment, labor, seed, feed, chemical additives, etc. have risen faster than the revenues received by farmers. Typically farmers receive less than minimum wage when all farming hours are tabulated. Historically this has been true, but in the past the farm family produced much of its own food, fiber and fuel. Today farms are more specialized and farm family members must often work at other jobs to augment farm income, particularly for the small to medium size farms typical to the Town of ULysses. In many rural areas, including the Town of Ulysses, there has been pressure to develop farm land. Farmers often blame increasing property taxes, cost of production, and level or decreasing product price as reasons for selling land. The best agricultural land is often most desirable for new housing and commercial development since it is generally flat, well drained, and frequently scenic. Development speculation tends to drive up land prices. This presents a dilemma to farmers. Ulysses still has a viable farming community and supports a variety of agricultural pursuits; tree farming, poultry and eggs, dairy, crop, truck and specialty crops among them. Agriculture is facing times which may change the face of the community. Issues • that may influence the success of the small to medium size farms are as follows: 1 . Economic climate 2. Farm subsidies 3. Soil is marginal for crops 4 Does the community (Town) wish to do something to encourage the future existence of the agri- cultural community. * 1988 Survey conducted by SENECAYUGA PLANNING ASSOCIATES REV/AUG 93 n. } . r. 4 ?21 S:"y ` L. .;^+'(' :1.�:' p� p.� Y: ti 1 .t �•f...-a,. ft:'�.� .S.y ..:.. t »i '' ii • 4: ' ti 10 TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING September 14, 1993 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Catherine Stover, Thomas Reitz, Robert Weatherby, Ben Curtis; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Code Enforcement Office Alex Rachun; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. Others Present :. Karen Smith and Pam Stonebraker/SPCA,, Reporter/Free Press . Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Town Board, Town of Ulysses to order at 7 : 30 pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to 'approve the minutes of the August 10, 1993 Regular Board Meeting, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Stover and unanimously approved. • Report: Trumansbura Fire Department No report Report: Representative James Mason • No report Claims . . Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Vouchers #274-315 in the amount of $35,912 . 62, moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Curtis. Hr. Curtis questioned $299 - hotel pre-payment : Mr. Reitz stated • that the Town usually pre-pays Hr. curtis would like to work on a policy for travel . Mr. Reitz agreed. After brief discussion the Board voted. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Supervisor's Financial" Report - Not available. Hearing of Delegations and/or Individuals Pam Stonebraker and Karen Smith, of the SPCA passed out graphs and a" budget of the SPCA's and., reviewed the same:. (attached) The SPCA is asking for a contract figure of $6561 for 1994 which represents a 3% increase. This would be $191 over last years contract . OLD BUSINESS . . American Legion P.U.D. Mr . Hogan read a letter from Attorney Bruce Wilson (see American Legion file for. copy) . Mr. Wilson had spoke with Mr. Hogan and stated that the Judge was to sign an order on September 17, 1993. Mr. Wilson requested. to speak with the Board before any decisions 0 L •' Town of Ulysses ' 2 Regular Board Meeting 9-14-93 were made. A special Board Meeting was scheduled for September 22 , 1993 at 6: 15 pm prior to meeting, with the Village. pudoet - 1994 Requests •• Mr. Hogan asked the department heads to have their budget request back to him by the end of the week so he could start working on the budget . Roadside Spraying Policy Mr. Meeker stated that he had spoke with the Association of Towns and with DEC on the policies of ,roadside spraying and had conflicting reports . It has been suggested to him to get a manual from Cornell on the subject and he will do this and review that policy. Youth Commission Appointment The Board had met and interviewed John Rogers and Linda Buettner for the Youth Commission. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis the following: • RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint John Rogers for a term to expire December 1994 to the Youth Commission. FURTHER RESOLVED to also appoint Linda Buettner to the Commission for a term to expire December 1995 . Mr. Hogan Aye S Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye • Mr. Curtis Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Adopted Other Old Business Mr. Cutis asked about workman compensation and Mr. Hogan reported that he had asked Mr. Farrell about that. Mr. Rachun asked about a indemnification policy. Mr. Curtis felt that the town should look into this and reminded the board that he had given copies of the policy that is in force in Lansing. Mr. Rachun said he had not seen this copy. The clerk will make a copy of this and they will talk about it at next meeting. NEW Business Resolution Interim Justice - Enfield Due to a death of the Town of Enfield Justice they have asked that Justice Roger Rector be their interim justice until December 31st when a new justice can be elected. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover the following: BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses hereby consents to the assignment of Honorable Roger Rector, Town Justice of the Town of Ulysses to serve as Town Justice • for the Town of Enfeild for an interim period from September _b " ...' li•.. t y' .. : :$i -..y .u'. ': 2.,n•.�.t :,{1:� •'r X':�.s i". ,...L.'a. 4 1,.1 .. .•- nt.: .i i . ., ` :fr '1'.^a ..f ',1q;: J;; lib( Town of Ulysses 3 • Regular Board Meeting • 9-14-93 1, 1993 to December 31, 1993. ' Mr. Hogan aye Mr. Reitz aye Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Curtis aye Mr . Weatherby aye Adopted a ,. Reports . Town Clerk/Tax Collector, Marsha Georgia, reported that $4,680 . 50 . had been collected in August ,of. whiph .$1140. 58 had been turned t over to the Supervisor with. the monthly .report. Also sent DEC $3362.50. Thus far for September have collected $3839.00 having sold about 170 conservation licenses. Mrs. Georgia reviewed the new format of Town & County Tax bills which she received' from" Tompkins County. Also distributed copies of three estimates to reproduce the retyped Subdivision Regulations and Zoning Ordinance. Asked for • two prices . . .one to copy and the other for off-set printing. Mr. Curtis questioned the need to include descriptions of Development Districts and the length of the Zoning Ordinance. Mrs. Georgia pointed out that the increase in number of pages is due to the _ fact that the documents were typed not off-set printed. Have also added maps. After much discussion the issue was left that - Mrs. Georgia will call Harry Willis/Dept . of State or the Assoc. of Towns to see if legal descriptions need to be included in the Zoning Ordinance document. iiahwav Superintendent, James Meeker reported hand patching done, painting fuel tanks, borrowed brush chipper from Town Enfield, trimming brush. Jacksonville Church has requested crushed stone be put along the edge of school house. . .water running past storage building and eroding. Mr. Meeker said he doesn't have any problem with that; we use their facilities for elections . . .the road belongs to the Town, within the highway right-of-way. The Board agreed with Mr. Meeker. Code Enforcement Officer, Alex Rachun reported eight permits issued for building. Twenty-eight zoning violations were sent _ out . Anything from illegal building to junk cars . Did four fire ' inspections . t Land use maps should be ready by next week and the Master Plan • Committee will do overlays . board Members. ` Mr. Reitz said that everyone will be receiving a copy of the new Youth Guide to Teen Services for the Town of Ulysses . The first • year printing was sponsored by the Town and Village; thinking of selling ads when an update is needed. ® Inter-municipal Recreation Committee has sent out survey to homes in Ulysses that have children in Ithaca school district. Expecting a 10% return. Mr. Curtis stated that the Govt . Access Cable Committee has arranged on October 14th to have Carol Jamison from NY Cable Commission to come and talk to municipal officials at 7 :00pm. Correspondence • - ,t, 1 It ,p.•I Town of Ulysses 4 :�i • Regular Board Meeting 9-14-93 Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence. 'Received a resignation from Richard Garner, who has been serving on the Planning Committee. Hearing no further discussion Mr. Curtis moved to adjourn to an Executive Session to discuss legal action on the American Legion, • seconded by Mr. Reitz. Unanimously approved. . '. Executive Session 11 • The Executive Session is to discuss the American Legion legal situation. Mr. Reitz moved to adjourn this session to 6: 15pm on .'•' September 22nd, seconded by Mr. Weatherby and Mrs. Stover. The Regular 'Board•Mesting'vas -reconvened at ,9:40pm. . Mrs: Stover moved:to` adjdurn, seconded'by Mr. Weatherby: Unanimously ' ` • i approved the meeting a$journed at 9: fpm. ` " :,, . Respectfully submitted, :' . Marsha L. Georgia • Town Clerk ( pm . ;... ; ,(. i • 'r ' (,. • ,• „ a„ .. '• 4 . . I ,'ti., -1 s t .. :� .,. .. , . 1 r:. ):i,111 ..' ..'. . .. . t, i ... .. • . ! ' . . i .. r. . . i'ri:,. ` • .::"7 ' .. ' ' .. :' ., 7 !. ' ' .. .i , . -• - ..._ ...._.-�..�__�.. . . - . ii•: .l: .i•.. :[fS .i�ri i::�. .p.: 't•` .Y" . t-V ( .�I .. J UQi- ..r :i�.r iY•9.'d° . �fL .ai' !.. ci�nidt t.h3 ' y J^�•. <�. . ... ..:r :? � .. . 's. fi"r: ,, l r . .d-MV ai'•. .Y. , r;+v:•..N n. � .. art . 117 TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING SEPTEMBER 20, 1993 TOWN HALL PRESENT: Chairman: David Tyler; Members : Gerri Keil, Krys Cail, Gregg Hoffmire, Dan Smith, Budd Stover; Build- ing/Zoning Officer: Alex Rachun; Secretary: Roxanne '; Ill Smith The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 PM. • Several sets of minutes needed approval due to lack of a quorum. The minutes of June 21 , 1993 were ratified. The minutes from July 12th and the 26th were approved. Dan •t moved to accept and Krys seconded (the July 12th set) . Krys moved to accept and David seconded (the July 26th set) . Corrections were made to the minutes from August 16, 1993. On ?. page two, last paragraph the sentence "A way to make a lot of money would be to have what they have out in Enfield" should say "A way to make a lot of money for property owners would be to have what they have out in Enfield. " On page 3, the first paragraph, next to last sentence "than" should say "then" . • David stated since the Board had last met the decision on the American Legion had been handed down. Alex stated at the last Town Board meeting they had spoken very little of that • decision and that they would be meeting in executive session prior to their joint meeting with the Village Board. It is purely coincidental that they are meeting jointly with the • Village as is the Village ' s Planning Board and this Board. Alex did not know the agenda for that meeting. He stated that Dennis Sheehan is now on the Zoning Board of Appeals for the Village. Discussion ensued concerning the above decision. David • stated that one thing that is evident is the need for a com- prehensive plan. Dan inquired about non-conforming use and what • are they to do in the interim regarding that? Alex said that one thing the judge indicated was that if it clearly couldn't fit anywhere else PUD is a way to go. (PUD of and by itself A. is not spot zoning, it' s when it' s used for the benefit of a developer or a person without the exception that it can' t be used anywhere else. ) In lieu of a comprehensive plan we need to indicate that there are other areas. Unfortunatly the areas available are not desirable. There needs to be an overview of • Commercial as it stands now stated Krys. Alex said the maps are not ready for the Master Plan Committee meeting. The two docu- ments needed are the Comprehensive Plan and the Zoning map. The • narrative will be philosophical in nature. The Chairman indicated that he wanted to discuss the agenda for the joint meeting with the Village Planning Board. The Village Comprehensive Plan went beyond the Village' s border. Krys indicated that comprehensive plans are required to discuss abutting municipalities. Whether it' s a requirement there is some wisdom and logic to doing that said David. Some topics for the agenda are: what would the Village Planners like to see the Town Planners do; what does the Village ' s Master Plan show; setting up the water and sewer; economic issues (tourism for example) ; annexation (Village services extended) . Krys stated that she would like to get more ' g7 TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING t;:,- SEPTEMBER 20, 1993 - TOWN HALL factual information (such as: how much do they perceive of the customer base is commercial within the Village coming • from outside of the county and if so from what townships do X. they see that coming from. ) The issue of law enforcement has . come up in the past; and the possibility to contract for extended coverage. They' re getting called out in the Township " occasionally now; Ferretti is deputized in Tompkins County said Dan. In a way these village services are part of the annexation issue said David. Police, water and sewage are all part of the package said Dan. The one advantage they had was that they had a profession- s al consultant mentioned David. We have way too little hard data said Krys, and in good conscience how can the Master Plan • Committee work without this information? David inquired of the Board what would they like to see come out of this joint meeting? Gerri stated that it is impor- tant to understand what their idea of the Village is, so that it meshes with the Board' s thoughts. The Board needs to hear justification of the Village Board' s positions. If there is mutual agreement it will be helpful in arriving at locations for the Commercial and Industrial districts for the Town. • David queried the Members about where tourists stay while ft • visiting the area. There are 26 rooms available from Bed and ' Breakfasts stated Alex. The racetrack is a draw in Watkins Glen. ti Watkins have two motor lodges. Corning, Elmira, Trumansburg and Ithaca are all available. A good development for this area would be an artist in residence program said Gerri. There are several downtown buildings that could be used for studios. The Johnson Museum has nine artists but none of them are in Tru- mansburg said Alex. Another draw is the Trumansburg Fair said David. The development of tourism is a big issue. Let' s • brainstorm this with the Village Planning Board said David. The Master Plan Committee will be invited to attend the joint meeting with the Village Planning Board. Roxanne will arrange to have the Village bring their completed comprehen- sive map to the joint meeting. Future discussion is needed for the categories in zoning stated David. It was decided that the Board will continue meeting every other week. The dates for • October meetings will be the 4th and the 18th. Gerri made the • motion to adjourn and Krys seconded. The meeting adjourned at 9: 00 PM. •. : I . • i.y.k "'F!!i. '.'!1'' 'r?d K. • ?w;- .. .,'.M° _..•�,• :Via.-. . {.'"f. •x: F1+ .YSI .!.-Ly-.-.a....i..-.riGi., iiti'=..'.o�'Y;�ia.° }., y- 1..:'•✓tS' S�l .. !:, t'j' •i"Y yy H .T . ' .F '{. f , t t '< [. •+'f?J••':, r� : ..q. '9 ? TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TOWN HALL SEPTEMBER 21 , 1993 • • PRESENT: Chairman: Gary Myers; Members: Catherine Stover, Joanne Molino, David Tyler, Carl Mann, David Laurie; Zoning/Building Officer: Alex Rachun; Secretary: Roxanne Smith �r- OTHERS PRESENT: Sue Poelvoorde and Tom Reitz • The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 : 05 PM. Gary asked Alex about the land use maps. They should be finished within the week. They have a new circut rider said Alex. Gary inquired whether they can use a DWG format (compatible with Autocad) . Alex said yes and that the maps will also be done in the 1/1500 scale to accomodate the overlays . David Tyler mentioned that there would be a joint planning Board meeting (of Ulysses and the Village) on Thursday the 23rd at 7: 30 PM. He extended an invitation to the Master Plan Committee. Hopefully they will be able to hear the Village ' s rationale on several topics and have a productive dialogue. • Joanne Molino discovered that all the changes had not been made to the existing copy of Agriculture for the Master Draft -3. Roxanne will correct that and send copies to all the Members. The existing narrative for the "Village" in the Master Draft - 3 consists of one long paragraph. The Trumansburg Chamber of Commerce put together the survey that is the basis for that (June 22 , 1991) said Tom Reitz . Trumansburg is very similar to a lot of cities in that every time there was a creek or river running through it they turned their backs on it. The backs of the buildings all line them. Currently you see the opposite of that happening. They' re opening up and creating nice places (for example the Ithaca Gorge) . The views and the coolness are taken advantage of said Gary. It is obvious that the Village is the largest center of commerce in the Town. The narrative should not go into de- tail concerning the Village though; what exists now is largely opinion said Gary. We can reference the Village Plan and say we are supporting • that said Sue. We should have a short synopsis of that plan and state how it affects the Town (negative or positive) said Gary. The Village ' s map indicated where growth can take place outside the Village but they • really didn' t change anything within. They showed the Auble and Seafuse area as Commercial. They did not indicate where added services could go. They did move the Industrial area slightly (the old Agway) said Gary. The status quo is acceptable. There was mixed housing behind • the Shur-Save and low density housing behind Larchmont said Alex. Has there been any action on the Rehab Code asked Gary? It ' s in Legisla- ture now said Alex. Currently housing renovations are a problem with the old buildings in villages and cities like ours . General Muninci- pal Codes can over ride the NY State Code said Gary. If there is a general occupancy classification change (like an occupant going from an insurance agency to a video store) it throws the existing building into the newly constructed classification and then it has to meet all the new building codes said Alex. The whole building then has to be brought up to code said Gary. (Which is physically impossible said Alex. ) A classic example was Camel' s. The money was there but they just could not make code so they had to seek a Variance. The facades of the buildings are very quaint but the buildings themselves are dif- ficult to work with said Alex. My impression of the Village is that it • • • 'll..,. �,...��. ..A6✓.ii 1\ iti'L Cd la:.l.'. . a4 •1-:.. .•'•l 'l .:f 1` L,,. ..,�...t. _. `1:� :1�,%.. .1. .:^%v(t. ..a.,::. ,}ti s,".'L' 9i': .'�1er�:.a. ... ."al. .."R.. .:. a ! 1 v ,y®• TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING • TOWN HALL SEPTEMBER 21 , 1993 • looks like the downtown area has been cut down the middle and then skewed. At one end (P & C) you have facades on one side and nothing on the other; you look at the other end and it' s the same way said Gary. That' s essentially what the creek did to it too said Alex. • Gary suggested that one question for the joint meeting would be are they interested in encouraging development by extending utilities in the two areas they indicated for future commercial growth. The two areas may provide more than enough space for commercial development in the Town for the next twenty years, but that doesn' t mean it will occur in those places said Gary. There is no reason why development would logically follow the perimeter of the Village. There is a barge down at the Octopus testing for pilings, they are going through with the bridge. The South end of Town could just as easily be developed as the North end. Holding water as a carrot for annexation may not be the most important thing. We may find water on the South end of Town • said Alex. The Town of Ithaca has much more stringent requirements than the Town of Ulysses said Gary. Alex agreed totally. Carl mentioned • that the Poyer Orchards area is ripe for housing. • • The Octopus proved to be quite a deterrent for housing develop- ment, but with that being worked on it might change said Alex. The number of people in households has declined due to the aging population said Tom. The number of jobs too; realtors fail to show people this area. The high end real estate in the Town of Ulysses is in the Ithaca • school district. We need to find a way to correct that in our Master Plan. It is so illogical to have a child ride a school bus for an hour and a half when in fifteen minutes they could come to Trumansburg. Both school boards would have to agree to change the lines. The large school tax they are paying goes to the Ithaca school district not Tru- mansburg. It costs $3900. 00 per student if these families wish to en- roll their child in the Trumansburg' s school district, said Alex. Any- body over 18 (who are in the district 30 days) can vote on the school • budget said Gary. Property owners are the ones to pay school taxes • though said Alex. • Alex took the opportunity to mention that the Trumansburg • Charitable Trust is up and running. This trust will be awarding five scholarships of $10, 000. 00 each starting in 1994 to Trumansburg students • who desire to go into teaching. The following year they hope to award ten students. This money is coming from a private endowment from Ed Mosley' s estate. They hope to encourage high caliber students to pursue • teaching. The criteria will be grades, performance and need. Larry Reverby is the attorney. The board members are Marsha Georgia, Alex Rachun, Paula Mount, Christine Springer and Roger Rector. There was a stipulation that these members be Town employees. (Their children will not be eligible, they receive no compensation. ) The recipients will receive it in their third year of college. Returning to the Master Draft - 3 Gary suggested that the Members each take a topic listed on the last page, to begin a rough draft. Someone has to make the initial stab. He said his strength is with the overlays not in the verbal. Sue and Joanne volunteered to take ® numbers one and five (Population Characteristics/Occupations) . Catherine will do local government (number four) . Alex can address topic number six (zoning) . It was suggested Ruth could do number two. Initially a good way to start would be to do it in outline form suggested Sue. The next meeting date will be October 7, 1993 (Thursday) at the Village Hall. The meeting adjourned at 8: 55 PM. t. /4/ • VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG • TOWN OF ULYSSES JOINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING VILLAGE HALL SEPTEMBER 23 , 1993 • PRESENT: VILLAGE MEMBERS: JOHN O'LEARY, PAUL ODELL, ANDY SCOTT, ROBERT BROWN AND DON ELLIS TOWN MEMBERS: DAVID TYLER, KRYS CAIL, GERRI KEIL, DAN SMITH AND BUDD STOVER OTHERS: MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEMBER: CATHERINE STOVER SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITH The Chairman of the Town of Ulysses, David Tyler, called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 PM. David explained that discussions had occurred between John and himself earlier in the summer. They concerned the Village Comprehensive Plan and what the impact on that would be by ideas implemented by the Ulysses Planning Board. The American Legion decision has lended some urgency to the situation. The decision was arrived at on fairly narrow grounds having to do with how the seeker was done. The Judge added (at the end of the decision) , that the Town has problems with its Development District Ordinance due to lack of a Comprehensive Plan. (There could be an issue of spot zoning. ) • The last time these two groups met was one year ago, before the General Development Plan of the Village was adopted by the Village ' s Planning Board. (It has not been adopted by the Village Board. ) David queried the Village Members concerning what they would like to see the Town' s Comprehensive Plan include, dealing with areas that abut the Village. At this point John invited the participants to have a closer look at the Village' s map. An explanation/discussion of color codes ensued. For new Residential development there will prob- ably be lower density. The Commercial is broken down into Cl-more walkable and C2- more driveable. The light Industry area would prob- ably include any kind of electronic assembly, labs; but no smoke stacks. There is no desire to change retail. The middle of the Village real- istically can not compete with surrounding businesses . There is an • interest to place businesses on the edge though said Don. Referring to ._ Dryden and Route 13 David mentioned the Town Member' s dislike of strip development and how that could occur to Route 96 . it tends to weaken the community center. The work on the Octopus begins in 1995. In terms of services , Robert mentioned that if there was a large influx of population, Trumansburg would not have the facilities to accomodate the growth. Looking at the services available, in the confines of the Village, you see that there isn' t much. The Network Café has gone out, the hairdressers next door have too. The building has been bought. David reiterated how do we encourage the Village ' s center? Trumansburg is a village; because of that it draws people. To preserve it you don' t necessarily expand said John. Trumansburg' s real strength is in its provisions; so you do not have to go to Ithaca all of the time. Development on the Seneca County side is much more positive. The other direction would dilute us. The biggest weakness is that the services • we are unable to offer downtown, we don' t have. What really makes sense is a joint meeting between the Town of Covert, Town of Ulysses and the Village. Most of the development is happening in another county said Don. A Developer with some vision could really work at the Auble site. • • '.^A. t\� �2j �' t 't�. Y. L , �'t' ; w,P;i:.. ♦ i� . .'.�..'� . Ifre • wY .2 I . .. VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG TOWN OF ULYSSES JOINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING VILLAGE HALL SEPTEMBER 23 , 1993 • One thing the Town has thought about would be if a lot of businesses came to Rt. 96 there would be too many curb cuts. This could jam up traffic. It is necessary to have a lot of set backs. What is listed as Commercial on Rt. 96 isn' t always viable. There are a lot of devel- opment districts said David. Between Jacksonville Rd. and Rt. 96 there • is a large area that could be zoned Commercial said Don. The property abutting Smith Woods that looks like it is part of Smith Woods actually belongs to the Duddleston family said Robert. Returning to the Village, Krys suggested that some thematic work needs to be done on the draws of the Village. Due to the creek and the steep embankments the Village Center has a different destiny which doesn't include cars said Don. We can accommodate a lot of cars said David, citing the GRass Roots Festival at the fairgrounds and Shur Save. Since the Shur Save has moved out parking is not really an issue. You can always find a space now said Robert. David asked the Village Members what they would like to see in the plan of the Town that the Town Members are working on. Don responded that they'd like to see 96 stay clear because of the hazard. Robert mentioned the Industrial Zone. He'd like to see it cut down. He' d also • like to see the sewer system extended all the way down Seneca Road and then put a pumping station in and bring it back into Trumansburg along Frontenac Road. The water lines extend down to the fairgrounds. There is no reason not to extend it down to 96. Don said that if the South • edge develops more quickly it would be more beneficial to the Town and • Village (due to taxes; being in Tompkins County, not Seneca) . Krys .'i mentioned that jobs to the North are dying out. Once the Octoput sit- : uation is resolved development may take place at the South end. There would be more reason to shop nearer the Village when it becomes a time factor. The Industrial area has water but not sewer said Robert. Krys questioned whether that is an area that is likely to be developed. Robert said that Tom Niederkorn says yes. Businesses need encourage- ,., ment however. John mentioned two businesses that would have come had that happened (Moog Synthesizers and Agri-Bio) . Budd asked what the • capacities of the water and sewer system were. John said due to the DEC changing classifications of the stream some major dollars could be involved. Robert said a couple of $100 ,000. 00 would be needed. Andy said another water tower would be necessary. There is no mandate in the Village for development. The Board reflects the attitude in general. People here like the Village as it is said Don. That is an assumption that things are not going to change. That' s a false premise said David. The Auble project is the wake up call. If they want a Master Plan where the Town is going to be favor- able to the Village they had better start thinking about it. We can • either work hand in hand or cause a lot of problems said Dan. The Village goes out side of the Village anywhere there is a main. They go out to Waterburg. Anyone that is within 500 feet of that can hook up. They will pay a rate and a half and $2500. 00 (for hook up) . The Village is not going to expand the main said Robert. Krys said Bolton Point could be approached as an option. Bolton Point is more profit motivated. ® It would be a disaster if the water lines came up Iradell and 96. If you want things built in a certain direction, water and sewer go hand in hand. The Town does not have water, the Village does, said David. If the Village really wants to support the Commercial and Industrial areas they should extend water and sewer soon with some reasonable control; it • would be questionable to extend to Residential said Don. Gerri said • • VILLAGE OF TRUMANSBURG TOWN OF ULYSSES JOINT PLANNING BOARD MEETING VILLAGE HALL SEPTEMBER 23 , 1993 they really need to work together to identify those areas for both the Village and the Town plans to mesh. David asked from the Village' s perspective does annexation make any sense? John said it would certain- ly help the tax base. Robert said following the natural boundries • would make sense. Auble is now zoned B2, we' re stuck with that said David. • Krys stated that she would like to pursue the the area by Monroe Square for an Industrial Zone. The Ithaca Development Agency (IDA) is holding title to that. A circut rider provided by the County has helped the Town with the Land Use Maps said David. He questioned what the procedure would be to get some imput from the Village Planning Board for the Town' s Master Plan. Don said they would need a directive from the Village Board to work with the Town. David suggested that these groups meet again in six months along with the Master Plan Committee. He thanked the Village for meeting with them. The meeting adjourned at 9: 15PM. 5 III • • • 3 I•1:::,1 i,,1 ;r,• _ .:P;.•' l•~" ':.:+,x'Y:"nk...•rr<.'1i alial. � iGi,,'•. .�:`' • }.. > :1 .. ..• �. r. x� l'� .ti .p',r • ....:LC:, (... . �.v... �. . . �., ;:9: . l,• - .. "!•. ;(:i, -, .,. .. TOWN OF' ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL l OCTOBER 4 , 1993 PRESENT: CHAIRMAN DAVID TYLER; MEMBERS: KRYS CAIL, GERRI KEIL, • DAN SMITH, BUDD STOVER; SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITH The Chairman called the meetin g to order at 7 : 35 PM. The •minutes from September 20, 1993 were reviewed. A change was made to the first page, fourth paragraph, third sentence. "Krys indica- ted. . . " has been changed to "Krys wondered if comprehensive plans are required to discuss abutting municipalities. " Dan made a motion to approve the minutes, Krys seconded. The minutes were approved unanimously. The Chairman asked for the Members ' thoughts/reactions to the previously held joint meeting with the Village Planning Board. Dan responded that he thinks the Village ' s Planning Board is willing to work with the Town Planning Board. David proposed that a letter be drafted by Roxanne to the Chairman of the Village ' s Planning u' Board requesting that they go to their Village Board and seek a directive enabling the two Planning Boards and the Town' s Master Plan Committee to work together on the Town' s Master Plan. It was decided that copies of the letter would be sent to the Town of Ulysses ' s Board and to the Village of Trumansburg' s Board also. Krys made the motion for the above; Gerri seconded. The motion passed unanimously. Continuing with the discussion on the joint meeting, Gerri remarked that she had gotten the impression that in discussing the future of the Village the Planning Board had written off the Village as an economic center. They were recognizing the realities of the limitations they have; Rt. 96 is hemmed in on one side by Residen- tial and the other by the creek said David. Addressing the older buildings, Dan commented that a fire in the restaurant could destroy ;r. one whole strip and the same could happen in the strip that contains the Rongovian Embassy and Camel' s. When Zifchock re-built by putting in the laundry mat there was a reduction of 75% in square footage of available space from the previous building. The Auble project has much better potential for a larger retail business . If the market • were there it could be a pretty nice development said David. Krys stated that she thinks it is a priority for the Village to encourage the businesses that could utilize their older structures; the small • shops are all over Ithaca and it works. They were really hitting on some very significant things, for example, retaining the quaintness of our Village. The new sign at Barry' s Restaurant really sticks out and it probably lights up at night. Something like that can quickly • destroy that community look said Gerri. The Village has a pretty good tax base in terms of Residential. The Town' s is eroding, which is consistent with the economy stated David. David brought to the Members attention a one day seminar being given by the State ' s Bar Association titled "Planning Board and Land • Use Control" . The cost is $175. 00, and it is being held in Rochester, October 15, 1993. It' s an excellent one day course dealing with the nuts and bolts, it' s not technical. David has attended it in the past, he said. The Members were interested but due to the proximity of the date were unable to take advantage of it. David said that often these seminars generate tapes, and perhaps he could get a copy. The Members agreed that that would be ideal. The Chairman stated that there were two possible directions to take regarding their meeting agendas. The first would be to li.r f i.e.. l••j iC U,.�• "' }'./ °: , /.''. .l. Jy''. L .: . 7� .f�. e:1; '�:. e ti f..j,; .fit_ .� tve ;,; TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 7. PLANNING BOARD MEETING • TOWN HALL OCTOBER 4 , 1993 • continue with the discussion of the several levels of Residential. The other option would be to put that on hold and to join forces with the Master Plan Committee. He inquired after the Members opin- ions, leading into a discussion of what the Master Plan Committee • was up to. The Committee will provide a road map for zoning change. The development district is a pretty limited tool. I 'd rather act than re-act said David. As a part of their Master Plan the Town of Ithaca included a separate section of suggestions for zoning changes said Krys. We need to get some framework in place . If we get some samples of zoning ordinances we could learn a lot of what not to do said David. Referring to the minutes of July 12 , 1993 , the Members decided to outline what the breakdown of Residential would be. In Residential the topic of the duplex came up. The duplex is very • different from an accessory apartment. If it is owner occupied quad • you can get a lender' s mortgage; if not, then it is a much more expensive proposition (commercial lending) . The duplex/non-owner occupied in our area is unusual said David. ti If we try to encourage Agriculture, this community isn' t • wealthy enough to buy development rights. There may be some merit • to giving a tax incentive to the farmer however, said David. You won't be able to attract Agriculture to this Town due to the soil type , the yield potential, drainage and the taxes. There is no com- parison to Cayuga County (it ' s so much better there) , said Dan. The outline for Residential is as follows: Rla - up to 2 acres (single family plus mother-in-law auxiliary apartment) Rlb - 2 plus acres (single family plus mother-in-law auxiliary apartment) • • R2 - 4 families or less R3 - more than 4 families A quick outline for Business is as follows: • Si - user friendly - commercial B2 - Have (Rubles) • B3 - Balance of present business district The cost of the property in a B3 zone may be prohibitive to a • business that needs a large amount of space said Krys. This was in response to Gerri' s question of where the American Legion fits in. This may also apply to a log home manufacturer said Krys. It was decided that in the description they would spend time • ® defining family day care, group home, churches, nursery schools and allowable use. The next meeting will be spent addressing Residential • in detail. Budd made a motion to adjourn and Gerri seconded. The meeting adjourned at 9: 05 PM. �' ' . 'j��•� n�. - 1t et/. . '. , ':.i,'!ro .v ? i ' t 1' 1� ,� f 1, ` . ' . '�: ' '�.i •t MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING • TOWN OF ULYSSES N . VILLAGE HALL OCTOBER 7 , 1993 PRESENT: MEMBERS: CATHERINE STOVER, RUTH KAHN, JOANNE MOLINO, DAVID TYLER AND SUE POELVOORDE; BUILDING/ • ZONING OFFICER: ALEX RACHUN; SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITH The meeting opened at 7 : 15 PM. Following up on her task of writing a description for topic number 2 in the Master Draft - 3; Ruth discov- ered a brochure provided by the Chamber of Commerce. Unfortunatly there are not many copies of these available to the general public. It will be very helpful as a reference. Ruth noted the existence of some very old • card tables (at the library book sale) listing area businesses around • their borders. She thought it would be appropriate if the Historical y Society had one for display. _r David reported briefly on the joint meeting of Planning Board Members of the Village and Town. He said that the Village would need • direction from their Board enabling them to work with the Town' s Mas- ter Plan Committee (on the Comprehensive Plan) . The topics of water, sewer and annexation came up. Catherine mentioned that the classifica- tion of the Taughannock Creek by the DEC had been upgraded which will result in higher costs for repair. Catherine had some input on the topic of Agriculture in the r Master Draft - 3. On issues that may influence the success of the small to medium size farms , item number one should be real estate taxes. She then listed the number and types of farms in the Town of Ulysses. They are: one pig farm, one poultry farm, two dairies and seven or eight crops. Also mentioned were those that farm fifty or more acres while working a full time job. , Sue brought in a book (1992 edition) recognizing the value of private and public open space. The book is a joint effort of the Parks and Recreation of NY State and the DEC. It lists recommendations and . goals and possible funding sources to achieve them. One possible fund- ing source would be the five cent bottle/can fee that consumers pay out. . Many consumers never bother to return the cans for the refund. The DEC actually outlined and identified areas that should be pro- tected. Sue wasn ' t sure if any of those areas were in the Town of Ulysses. .. Every time the State buys a piece of property it comes off the tax rolls stated Catherine. The State does pay Municipalities money (for school . taxes) stated Sue and said she'd like to find out more about that. Alex Rachun arrived and inquired after their opinions on the ill completed Land Use Maps. He feels the quadrants are quite accurate. The Zoning Maps are completed (though not in color) along with the PUDs. Alex also has an 8 X 11 (in color) of the Land Use Map that is quite legible. He mentioned that on the Zoning Maps the Commercial area may show the entire . area where the Land Use Map will show just the area actually being used. The Committee spent about twenty minutes looking the maps over. Alex suggested that someone ought to circulate a petition to find MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING 2 TOWN OF ULYSSES VILLAGE HALL OCTOBER 7 , 1993 out just what the sentiment is in this community regarding the school district lines. He has received plans for yet another 3800 square foot home ($300, 000. 00) just across the line on the Ithaca School District side. If a large enough amount of those petitioned said they prefer their • child in the Trumansburg School District (like 95% on DuBois Road and Krums Corners , lower Perry City and Agard Road) you might be successful. At one time there use to be a gentleman' s agreement where each district '" could exchange children said Ruth. That is no longer so. Ithaca is not interested in the children' s best interest. Trumansburg is not getting enough houses resulting in their tax rate being higher than Ithaca' s said Alex. Would Trumansburg be able to service more children inquired David? Most of these new homes coming in do not have kids . There are a lot of seasonal homes, seniors, but few kids . High end real estate • is all going to the city of Ithaca. Water front property can' t sell because of the taxes said Alex. Each district has a school bus going down the same road said Ruth. A member of the American Legion came into Alex' s office and offered a price for five acres on Auble ' s property. (The amount seemed low) . It does not have sewer and they will need a special permit for after hours operation and outdoor activities. Part of the property fronts the road and part of it is contiguous. (The Legion could go where the buses are presently located. ) You do have access to water (by State law) if you are within 100 feet of a water district (the house next door is in the water district) . Whether Auble will be agreeable remains to be seen. Returning to the Land Use Maps David commented just how marvelous they were. Each copy will be $4. 00-$6. 00 said Alex. The Planning Board should have a copy and the Town Board should have one framed behind glass said David. The roads should be outlined (it will have to be done by hand) said Alex. The railroad right of way is very predominant. NYSEG owns the entire right of way said Sue. It would be terrific if they made that a bicycle path said David. They will meet a lot of resistance to that idea due to people ' s wariness of crime mentioned Alex. Sue stated that they already have had a meeting regarding that. It would be for bicycles and pedestrians only. It would be a good idea to have an assistant chairperson when Gary isn' t able to come; someone to keep the Committee on track said David. Joanne Molino has agreed to fill that position. Sue Poelvoorde has officially been made a Member of the Master Plan Committee. It was decided that when it is time to work on the overlays the Planning Board should be involved. Ruth inquired about the level of detail needed for the social institutions she will be writing about. (An active Quaker group, Special Children' s Center, twelve churches, Alpha House, Fair Grounds and Smith Woods were all mentioned. ) It was agreed that a general statement would be adequate. Alex agreed to write the topic for zoning, but will not write the history of it. Sue brought in various plans of other communities that the Committee • could refer to for organizational purposes. She has not had a chance to look through them. The basic information like table of contents, etc. would be helpful. Alex suggested that the two professionals , Sue and Gary, each be in charge of narrative and overlays. Ruth was volunteered to be the editor. Everyone agreed unanimously. The next meeting is October 19, 1993 at the Town Hall. The meeting adjourned at 9: 00 PM. t t •� i•` µ t�: t n 6,i.'N .... .,t ,t .t 1: .,;t.. .. . .. +t:J .. .. • TOWN OF ULYSSES REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING October 12, 1993 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis; Highway Superintendent James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. Absent : Robert Weatherby. • Others Present: Doug Austic, Free Press reporter Supervisor Hogan called the Regular Meeting of the Ulysses Town Board to order at 7 : 30pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs . Stover approval of the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of September 14 , 1993. K• Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis . . .. . Aye . "• Approved. . Report: Trumanaburn Fire Department Absent Report: Representative James Mason Absent Claims. / qp cMr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims #316-356 in the • ce amount of $27 ,914. 36; moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mr. Curtis. t;a. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye 1_ Mr. Curtis Aye . . Approved. Supervisor's Financial Report Mr. Hogan reviewed the cash flow statement and quarterly report with the Board. liearina of Deleaations and Individuals None OLD BUSINESS • American Lesion PUD • Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to accept the Judge's opinion and not appeal the. Court ruling on the American Legion PUD. Mr. Curtis said he would give a .motion although he wouldn't exactly word it that way. Wouldn' t mind saying I .don' t agree with the Judge's ruling but would agree not to contest it because of Town funds and would include that in the motion. Mr. Reitz seconded the amended motion. Mr. Hogan asked for discussion. Mr. Reitz said he has talked with the American Legion since the Judge's decision and they are u. V . Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Town Board Meeting October 12 , 1993 pursuing looking into other areas. Would like to see the Town work with either the Village or other zones to pursue that. Mr. Hogan said that seems reasonable. Mr. Curtis said he doesn't "j. think this discussion is pertinent to the motion. . .but, found himself thinking back through this . . .very bothered again by the original advice we received that we had to contest this in court, but at this time we don' t have to pursue the appeal . Wonder if our case was that badly flawed that we can' t list the procedural reasons , that at this point it ' s not worth pursuing. Guess I 'm concerned that we were advised to pursue it to begin with. Hr . Hogan said he agrees that it isn' t pertinent to this resolution. Mr. Reitz said he has learned from this is that the Judge in this case took the worse case scenario and based his decision upon that . • Mr. Hogan said a decision has been made; only thirty day period to appeal if you so wish. Hearing no further discussion Mr. Hogan asked to vote. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Planning Board Vacancy Mr. Hogan said one application received regarding the vacancy. Would like to advertise again and see if anyone else shows interest, would like more than one to consider. Unanimously • approved. I Zoning Ordinance Mr. Hogan said that PUD descriptions have been removed and thus the number of pages reduced. Also smaller print used reducing total number of pages from 62 to 31. Quality of print was discussed; was suggested that perhaps a laser printer be used. ` Mrs. Georgia also produced various types of print and sizes. Mr. Reitz asked about off-set printing or xeroxing and Mrs . Georgia said xeroxing; off-set is very costly. Changed from three to two columns; felt it was easier to read. Discussion ensued regarding business district descriptions . Mrs. Georgia explained why they should be included. . .would be about two pages . Mr. Curtis felt they could be removed. Mrs . Georgia tried to explain the time involvement every time changes are made; and just a page or two will not make a difference in the prices quoted. (Prices on file in Town Clerk's office) . Mrs . Georgia said she had received three estimates which include printing, collating and a cover and made into a booklet form. Suggested having 500 copies of Zoning Ordinance. Mr . Hogan felt that was too many. Mrs. Georgia reminded the Board that copies of the Ordinance are not given away, but sold, so at $5.00/copy • (do give them to Planning Board members, etc. ) , would more than cover the cost of printing. Did get prices for lots of 100; naturally the cost decreases with • an increase of number ordered. Mr. Curtis inclined to have about 250 copies/enough to last a year or so; by then may be an updated version. Mr. Rachun suggested talking with Challenge Industry about printing. Mrs . Georgia said that we are totally out of Subdivision booklets . Have also redone the format and have reduced that to 23 pages . Mr . Hogan suggested getting 100 . Mrs . Georgia said • 2• .+.t•r9:r u:. � 1 4 Dt':Ii.e, r ii.�!J.,,,i11/4.07 i . ;Yr °�^" �r .. �..'. ! �.. r 1+5 �p 'e 4 :rb:r`i-� r.•R��. -.•t.p. t i t.l •it. �Y f , 1 •( .4 I t "F' , -r 'i '�,.. •, I ea • Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Town Board Heating October 12 , 1993 she had prices on Subdivision also. Mr . Hogan said think we should go with 250 copies of the Zoning Ordinance and get a price from Mid Lakes and New Beginning. Mr. Curtis still felt one page could be removed. More discussion. Mr. Reitz said he would be happy to work with Mr. Rachun, Gary Myers/Chair. Master Plan and David Tyler/Chair. Planning Board and come back with some recommendations regarding this . Mr. Hogan said that 's a good idea before we print up a. number of them. Suggested tabling this until Tom reports back. Asked Mrs. Georgia to also get a quote from Challenge Industries . Mr. Curtis offered to drop off a copy at Challenge. Was decided to have 100 copies made of Subdivision Regulations . . .will also get a quote from Challenge and go with the lowest quote. Justice Retirement Credit Mr. Hogan reiterated what has transpired. Have a recommended format for determining retirement credit for the Justices and other elected officials. The Board has to establish by resolution, an average work week for that elected position and cannot be less than six hours per day: So I would recommend the six hour per day; then the elected officials have to keep track of the actual hours they work for one month, an average month. From that a percentage of credit is determined: Mr . Curtis argued the six hours . Mr. Hogan said you can use six, seven or eight; but these are for elected officials in a part- time job. Short discussion ensued. Was suggested to table this until feed-back is received from the Justice. . Indemnification Tabled. NEW BUSINESS Mr. Curtis reminded people that Thursday, October 14 at 7 :00pm at Cooperative Extension a representative of the NYS Cable Commission will be speaking. . Hearing no further New Business, Mr. Hogan suggested going back to the budget. Budget A copy of the proposed budget had been distributed. Left Election Expenses in and would like to discuss that item. Heard that the Town of Ithaca had removed it from their budget. Opinion from State Comptroller is that the County can' t charge them. We have $13,790.00 for Election Expenses . Mr. Reitz spoke with the Board of Elections some time ago and this issue is still in the courts. Still have encumbered funds from last year. Would fear if it becomes a necessary expense, have only the one year encumbered. Would like to have clarification. Mr. Hogan said he will call Association of Towns and also speak to Board of Elections to see if they have had any further word. Mr. Curtis asked if under Street Lighting, does this reflect ShurSave lighting and if so is there a revenue line somewhere? Mr. Hogan said Yes to both questions. Mr. Hogan will speak to the bookkeeper about this. :: ... . .. .::.. . .. . . ... ..... .F' O Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Town Board Meeting October 12 , 1993 Mr. Hogan said for the budget he used 3% for employee salary increases . Inflation is something like 2 . 9%. Thought we could have a meeting and discuss this with the employees. . .perhaps next Monday or Tuesday night . Mr. Curtis said he cannot make either night. It was suggested October 23, Saturday, at 8 :00am for the employees to speak to the Board. Budget meeting Monday, October • 25 at 7 :00pm for a work session. Tentative work session Saturday, October 30 at 8:00am and will hold the Public Hearing on Monday, November 1 at 7 :00pm. REPORTS Town Clerk, Marsha Georgia reported total fees for the month of September $5,939.50 of which $1 , 475 . 35 was turned over to the Supervisor along with the monthly report. $4,280 . was sent to DEC for hunting licenses. Notification received that the rabies clinic will be Tuesday, October. 26 at the Fire Station from 7-9 pm and they are asking for a $5. donation for each animal . Highway Superintendent, James Meeker reported the following • activities: sealed roads, cleaned ditches, helped Village and Enfield. Working on tile lines and guide rails. Explained Mobil pipe line on Curry Road. Mr. Hogan said we will also be getting $3613. from Federal Govt. for the snow emergency last year. Code Enforcement Officer, Alex Rachun reported that land use maps are finished being revised. Revisions were done after the Master Plan Committee looked at all the quadrants. Overlays and a narrative will be done. • Issued eight building permits. Also mentioned some food for thought: homes along the lake that are in the Town of Ulysses but the Ithaca Schcol District. Quite a bit of tax revenue potential . . .perhaps some way to have those properties changed. Board Members Mr. Reitz announced that there will be speakers at County Planning on Wednesday night; speaking on Economic Prospects in Tompkins County. Thursday night a meeting of the Intnrmunicipal Recreation Committee; received about a ten percent return on the survey. As soon as results are received will distribute to the Board. Also mentioned that after the joint meeting with the Village, Mr. Hogan was going to check with Mr. Rachun regarding a noise ordinance. Mr. Rachun said there is an ordinance, enforcing it is difficult . Mrs . Stover stated that recycling is moving ahead. Received a large container for cardboard; also Salvation Army drop off bins. Will check with Calvin about doors for his shelter. Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence received. Hearing no further business Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn to an Executive Session to discuss personnel problems. Moved by Mr. Reitz, seconded by Mrs. Stover. Unanimously approved. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm • l. .t f•.:ki1. :•�'.., .'�. . : Y'. 1i . . . 1• �. .t':. J ;f , . '•.3 rr.' ;t :'.:,. rl1 1Y` :(vi-n-;. 1 . MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TOWN OF ULYSSES • TOWN HALL OCTOBER 19, 1993 PRESENT: CATHERINE STOVER, RUTH KAHN, SUE POELVOORDE, JOANNE MOLINO AND DAVID LAURIE; SECRETARY: ' ROXANNE SMITH. • The meeting opened at 7 : 00 PM. Ruth discussed the water survey report. A copy of it was unavailable. Marsha had indica- ted to Ruth that she would place one in the Chairman' s basket. Ruth continued by stating that she had brought in information . . concerning the social institutions, which she gave to Sue. Ruth shared with the Members some of the information she had gathered. . The Fire Department serves the Village of Trumansburg and the Town of Ulysses. They are under contract to serve the Town of Hector and parts of the Town of Covert. They have fifty active members with few available during the day. There are two engine drivers available. The Department averages about 600 calls per year. The Trumansburg School District is filled to capacity at the moment. HeadStart had to be moved to Jacksonville. Thirty percent of the Town of Ulysses children do not attend Trumansburg schools because of the district lines. At this point Sue distributed copies of the "Proposed Outline For The Master Plan For The Town Of Ulysses" that she had compiled. (She based it on the Clifton Parks example. ) Sue indicated that she would like to see the emphasis placed on the basics; specific- - ally, gathering all the facts. (The Narrative can be worked on . later) . The Planning Board will eventually be the group that adopts the Master Plan said Catherine. • Returning to the Water Survey, Ruth indicated that the people on the lake and the Jacksonville area were the only parties inter- . • ested. The HUD grant application was turned down. Catherine reported that "thimbles" have been put in place for possible water lines in the new bridge. The State will pay for it. Sue said that the DOT (Department of Transportation) has been getting pushed by the reds to co-operate more on a community level. Discussion ensued on how to proceed with the outline. There - will need to be some more fact gathering. Sue stressed the need to document every source for the eventual bibliography. It would be appropriate to write personal communication as the source if the information came from someone ' s memory she said. While working on the age groups for Population Characteristics , • • Sue and Joanne created some pie charts based on the 1990 census . ' They broke the information into three groups : The Village of Trumans- burg, The Town of Ulysses and Tompkins County. Some discrepancies were discovered and will need to be double checked at the library. Copies of the information were distributed to Members. . Sue suggested that the Members decide on a deadline to complete their various topics. David agreed saying he works better with one. III (He will be working on Section IV, letter B - Housing. ) Sue wondered if smaller groups needed to meet more frequently. She indicated that Gary will need assistance when working on the overlays. Joanne suggested that the Members working with Gary could still be gathering • the raw data in between meetings. Sue said she will be calling the DOT in Syracuse the next day. She would like traffic counts for Routes 96 and 89. The County didn' t have much of that information. ,• . 0 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING 2 • TOWN OF ULYSSES TOWN HALL OCTOBER 19, 1993 • r The next meeting will be on Monday, November 8 , 1993 at 7 : 00 PM. At that time Members should have begun their outline for their assigned topic. Roxanne will talk to Marsha to locate the results of the Water Survey. Ruth elaborated on the needs of the Fire Company. Two thousand dollars is needed just for equipment; that does not include training. The tax payers fund the equipment for the Fire Department and the . building. (The Department is a separate organization. ) The Company is staffed by volunteers. This information is very important when • considering development initiatives. This could be a real back breaker for an all volunteer fire company. As a Town we need to ask ourselves have we reached the point where volunteers can handle it all. It' s a big issue for small Towns said Sue. . The schools are at maximum capacity. The Superintendent and • Business office were moved out of the elementary building. The Town' s reputation hinges on the schools said Ruth. Sue requested of Ruth to follow up on her discussion with Mr. Delaney at the school. The library' s circulation has increased (in the last 3 years) by 38%. Their attendance has increased by 64% . One has no sense of how busy that place is if they do not frequent it as it is tucked a- • way said Ruth. The inter-loan service is up 76%. David shared with the Members his experiences in renting his building. A unique type of business that draws people would really work. He has had a dance instructor, a karate instructor and present- ly a craftsperson renting that space. He has had some interesting . III people inquire about it. A wood sculptor was nixed due to the fire ; codes. A natural foods bakery also was turned down. Legally David could install two gas pumps in front of his building and it would be allowed. The building originally housed a sweat shop. On the second floor is a small apartment in the back with a large art studio in the front. The third floor is apartment space. Lead abatement is a very big issue in Connecticut said David. It has become a nightmare there. Any usage (around windows and doors) create a problem. By next October all fifty states will have a law in place that states that no building can be sold without the lead situation remedied. It already exists in Connecticut. It has be- come a tremendous source of litigation for lawyers. It' s much bigger than asbestos. High traffic areas have soil samples saturated with lead. It' s not just in paint and pipes. Children' s blood levels will be checked when they go in for their immunizations. It is front page news every day in Connecticut. There will be a lot of opportunity in this too. Contractors will benefit, it may bring in a lot of ' business to the communities. The term seeker from the previous minutes should be SEQR (State Environmental Quality Review) . The meeting ended at 8 : 50 PM. 111 , . LitialS AninNIMINIIMINSIJ . . `t i.i�ilt�. �' .. �. , r _..r••}`( ..` • r. n•Y .. . '.r. _ .. :..i) ..:[1• ..lt.:i".. , . I;.. • TOWN OF ULYSSES y PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL .,. OCTOBER 25, 1993 PRESENT: CHAIRMAN, DAVID TYLER; MEMBERS: KRYS CAIL, GERRI KEIL, BUDD STOVER, GREGG HOFFMIRE; SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITH. The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 : 38 PM. The minutes from October 4 , 1993 were reviewed. The first page, third paragraph, "laundry mat" was corrected to "laundramat" . On page two, the first paragraph, the next to last sentence should state "If it is owner occupied, up to four family, you can get a Residential mortgage; . . . " . Under the outline for Business , 81 should be defined as "low impact- commercial" . Budd made the motion for approval, Krys seconded. The minutes were approved unanimously. The Chairman brought several zoning ordinances in for the Members y to peruse from surrounding areas. Newfield, Caroline and Enfield do _ not have one. The Town of Dryden has one that is the most similar to the Town of Ulysses. The two that are the most up to date are the Village of Lansing and the Town of Ithaca. Lansing' s has a low, medium, and high density Residential. They have a low and high traffic Commer- ' cial, Business and Technology District and a Research District (the last . two fit in with the Cornell/airport area) . The Town of Ithaca has five Residentials , several Business Districts and light Industrial. They are far more sophisticated then the Town of Ulysses needs . David sug- gested that Lansing' s would be a good example to start from. Krys pointed out in Lansing' s Residential they specify lot sizes for areas that have sewer and areas that have septic. _ .,: The Members started with page 4 , Article IV, Use Regulations , Section I , Residence Districts of the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance. Krys suggested for easier reading that they take the Lot Area and Yard Regulations from Article V (lower page 5 and page 6) and state that in Article IV so the person reading it would not have to flip back _ and forth between the pages. Gerri pointed out that they look at "For Property Purchased on or After August 17 , 1977" not the before 1977 . David said "we are now fifteen to sixteen years down the line from • when this was revised. If a lot was purchased then, and there are still no improvements made; I see no need to perpetuate it. " The • . Members agreed. David asked if there were any properties in the Town that were on municipal water and sewer. Waterburg Road, South Street and Alpha House came to mind. Lansing mentions sewered and non-sewered _ areas . The changes made by the Members occur on page 6 , For Property Purchased on or after August 17 , 1977 , section a. "One or Two" will be replaced by "the number of" . . . families in the same structure. "10, 000 • square feet for each additional family. . . " will be set aside for the • . time being. The Members discussed the uses allowed in Residential, page 4 . Item a, "Dwelling" remains; a slight change was made to b. "Church or other. . . " . They stated that 10 % of the lot could be used for improve- ' ments. In item c "or public museum" will be dropped out for this category (and will require a Special Permit) . "Daycare Center" has been • ® added to item c. In item d. it will state "Public park not conducted for profit, public playground, field houses or other accessory building, any concessions are subject to Special Permit approval. " "including necessary and desirable concessions, . . . " will be dropped. Items "e . , f. , • g. and h. " will remain the same. Items i. , "hospital or sanatorium. . . " ; j . , "nursing or convalescent home. . . " ; and k. , "juvenile or adult foster home. . . " will be dropped from this category. Item 1 . "Rooming house or tourist house . " will be changed to "Bed and Breakfast and Rooming House by Special Permit. " Item m. will remain the same . Item n. remains the ,'; Ott TOWN or ULYSSES 2 P. PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL OCTOBER 25, 1993 same but will have the following added on. "In deciding whether to • grant a Special Permit the Board of Zoning Appeals shall consider the following: 1 . Impact of proposed use on the neighborhood (traffic burden, demand on municipal resources, population density, character • change, noise level greatly increased) . 2. As a condition for granting a Special Permit it shall not be unreasonable for the BZA to require certain conditions to be met to ameliorate the identified detrimental factors. • Items o. , p. , will remain the same. Item p. 1 . "unit" will change to "pen" . Items p. 2-5 will remain. The last two paragraphs in Section 1 will need to be addressed at the next meeting. Gerri questioned what the difference between the Special Permit and the Variance was. David said that the Special Permit is a right as long as you meet reasonable conditions. The burden is on the BZA to indicate why the Permit should not be granted. The Variance is . arrived at by the mercy of the municipality. The burden is on the applicant to show the BZA why the Variance should be approved. Krys mentioned that she would like to see some provision to show how the Spec.Lal Permit will be enforced. Sanatoriums, nursing homes, group homes will all be addressed at the next meeting, November 1, 1993. The meeting adjourned at 9 : 10 PM. :w: . TOWN OF ULYSSES BUDGET WORK SESSION _,tti October 25 , 1993 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Councilpeopl• Catherine Stover, Robert Weatherby, Thomas Reitz, Ben Curtis; Bookkeeper Jeanne Vanderbilt; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. . Mr. Reitz stated that he had checked with his records and also the Tompkins County Comptroller and Election Commissioner regarding election expenses . In 1992 we were billed for $15, 550 . It now appears that we will only receive part of that bill as our direct expenses . Also the 1993 expenses of $13,000 . we have encumbered; most likely we will pay $3,000. of that amount . . The Board discussed the salaries in the Justice accounts. After much discussion it was recommended that Justice 1 salary be increased by 3% and that same amount (3% of Justice 1) be added t. •,.. to Justice 2 . Making the salaries of Justice 1. at $9, 388 . 97 and Justice 2 at $4393 . 47 . The full time clerk be-increased by 3% and the part time clerk at 3% also. • Mrs . Georgia asked if the Board was looking at COST OF LIVING ' increases or are they dealing with MERIT increases . Mr. Hogan r ' stated that it is strictly COST OF LIVING. _ This was questioned. The following are other areas changed in the tentative budget; APPROPRIATIONS - GENERAL FUND _ . A1010 .01 dec. of $ 304 94 - $10123 ,f ; A1010.04 dec. of 500 94 - 1250 A1110 .01 inc. of 1677 94 - 39028 A1220 .01 dec. of 168 94 - 12223 A1410 .04 dec. of 600 94 - 800 A1450 .04 dec. of 10790 94 - 3000 A1620 .01 inc. of 75 94 - 2500 A1620.04 dec. of 750 94 - 10750 ' . 7.1670.04 inc . of 100 94 - 5600 - • A1910.04 inc. of 1863 94 - 21155 A1920 .04 inc. of 25 . 94 - 525 -• A5010 .01 inc. of 314 94 - 32714 7.5132 .02 dec. of 200 94 - -0- : ••. A5182. 04 inc. of 100 94 - 1700 A7510 .01 inc . of 25 94 - 400 A8810 . 04 inc. of 400 94 2000 A9010 .08 inc. of 298 94 - 5259 A9030.08 inc. of 123 94 - 10514 A9055.08 inc. of 447 94 - 728 A9950.09 inc. of 10000 94 - 12500 REVENUE GENERAL FUND . , .. _ A1081 inc. of $ 600 94 - $ 600 A1170 inc. of 300 94 - 1900 A1550 dec. of 100 94 - . 50 7.2401 dec. of 800 94 - 2200 A2530 inc. of 50 94 - 250 A2610 dec. of 2500 94 - 15500 A2611 inc. of 100 94 - 350 A3005 • inc. of 12000 94 - 60000 APPROPRIATIONS PART TOWN - GENERAL OV FUND - 1 •" Special Board Meetimng 2 Budget Work Shop 10-25-93 . 83410. 01 dec. OF $ 1804 94 - -0- 83410 .04 dec. of 200 94 - -0- ' 83620 .01 inc. of 1500 94 - 1500 83620 .04 dec. of 200 94 - 900 88010 .01 inc. of 150 94 - 800 _ 88010 . 04 dec. of 200 94 - 900 88020 . 01 inc. of 200 94 - 200 88160 .01 dec . of 75 94 - 1700 4 88010 . 01 inc. of 150(BONUS) 94 - 150 89010 .08 inc. of 309 94 - 1000 89030 .08 inc. of 1 94 - 1991 ` REVENUES PART TOWN - GENERAL OV fi• 82110 dec. of 250 94 - 750 82376 dec. of 100 94 - 2000 82401 dec. of 400 94 - 200 82770 inc. of 35 94 - 535 83001 inc. of 120 94 - 3500 APPROPRIATIONS HIGHWAY FUND - DA DA5120 .01 inc. of 7 94 - 818 DA5130 .01 inc. of 324 94 - 33692 ' • DA5140 . 01 inc. of 137 94 - 14335 DA5142 .01 inc. of 159 94 - 16502 DA5148.01 inc. of 183 94 - 19040 DA9010 .08 inc. of 131 94 - 3558 DA9030 .08 inc. of 62 94 - 6456 • DA9040 .08 inc. of 2403 94 - 11239 DA9055. 08 inc. of 3 94 - 447 REVENUES HIGHWAY FUND - DA DA2302 inc. of 5226 94 - 50000 i DA2401 dec. of 2000 94 - 2500 APPROPRIATIONS HIGHWAY OV - DB D85].10 .01 inc. of 391 94 - 40616 • D89010 .08 inc. of 754 94 - 2373 DB9030 .08 dec. of 37 94 - 3107 DB9055.08 dec. of 2 94 - 215 ' REVENUE HIGHWAY OV - DB DB2401 dec. of 1000 94 - 2000 D83501 inc. of 7400 94 - 38000 • No changes in the other fund appropriations nor the revenues. The Board discussed the ESTIMATED FUND BALANCES which are as follows : A FUND $60061 B FUND 9038 DA FUND 47617 , D8 FUND 13700 After much discussion the Board decided to use the following amounts towards UNEXPENDED FUND BALANCES IN THE 1994 BUDGET: i . A FUND $30000 DA FUND 15000 - NOTE: The appropriations listed above reflect any changes made r after this discussion. it .... . " \t. . S�j° � -r:.. .r! r � �' • � . . • Special Board Heetimng 3 Budget Work Shop 10-25-93 It was reported to the Board, after the above changes to the tentative budget, that the percentage to be raised by taxes would be a negative 4.74 percent(e;timato) . The tentative budget had been a plus of 5.46 percent(estimate) . Mr. Reitz reminded the Board that they had previously discussed that if the bottom line of the budget came in at 3 percent or :. less they would discuss employee wages again. F The Tenative Budget became the Preliminary Budget and the clerk will advertise for the public hearing. So advised by the Board. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Ulysses Town Clerk F ii s4l 1Eft BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING TOWN OF ULYSSES 11-1-93 • PRESENT: Supervisor William P. Hogan; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz , Catherine Stover, and Ben Curtis; Town Clerk Marsha L. .Georgia. • Others Present : Douglas Austic and Alex Rachun Supervisor Hogan opened the Public Hearing at 7 :05 pm to review • the 1994 Budget . Mr. Hogan asked if everyone had received a copy of the Budget . They had. . . • lc Mr: Hogan asked if anyone had any questions about the budget at this time. He asked the Board members if they had any questions, comments or changes . ® Mr.Reitz stated that this is the Public Hearing on the budget and it is not appropriate to have the board's comments. Mrs . Stover stated that she does have questions on some items. Mr. Reitz stated that maybe the process should be clarified and when the . board expects to pass the final budget . • Mr. Rachun had a couple of questions for the Board. He asked about the year to date .figures for .his revenue in part-town. Mr. Hogan stated..that the figures ;are as of September 30th, 1993. m. Alex did not feel that all his revenue collected had been reported in -the :correct categories . . He had gotten .a print out from the Clerk and it was different than the totals reflected. He believes that there should be over $3000 reflected in building fees and only $2308 :is 'reported. ... . .he wonders •if Jeanne is posting things :differently :from his understanding. He stated :that this.:year and :last year he has been very cautious in spending :his contractual :and trying to maintain that surplus • and balance. At the end of the year when I have surplus it goes • into the general fund and is never reflected in my budget . There will .come .a :time when .I .will -need some more and I don' t think 'I have a huge budget con the CE. of a $1100 . This should not have been cut back to $900 maybe $1000 . After using gas money I would • not have :any :left..if :I was to..do :any travel or training. I may • • need some equipment. I .just question why the contractual • under . building and :zoning had :to be :cut each .by $200 . These cuts equal about $800.: 1• feel :that .it is a bit steep. • Mr. Hogan stated he would -look at why the Board hade done that. The Board discussed the revenue and: appropriations in part-town • with Alex. He feels that :the revenues are. probably much in line. He hopes that.-building: will .pick up.:: He 'feels that $4000 is a very realisticlaverage: for building lees: Mr. Reitz asked .if ..the fees that the town is charging for building permits . is in line to cover his expenses . Alex stated they wouldn't: cover his expenses but he has a, problem hitting business up• hard and .hitting: the home owner not as hard. It • seems that: is the way: things are done until I find a better way to do. it. I .won' t:.spend ten times: the time at the Special . . Children's center: earl: did Mr. Wolfs residence per se. . - Mr. III Wolf 's fee: was, $300 - and 'the• Children's• Center is $3000. Mr. Hogan: asked. if, those. fee: scheduleflere• revised. They have been. • ' Alex stated that he knows that it is good to come in under budget • 1 and he tries; to. always• do: thatrbut he: feels that he is penalized for that . because: when: her has:money: left: over, it goes • into general fund. It : would:be: nice- if it' could' stay• in part-town. . Mrs . • Stover asked• if it: was: reasonable that the zoning fees have AMENS . :y `i ile' i Public Hearing/Budget e 2 • Town of Ulysses ' • November 1 , 1993 been dropped down. Alex said as we revise the zoning ordinance and make it more agreeable for the people on the lake to meet the . requirements of zoning without the similar demands up here; ie: 200 ' circle and the rest . Think our BZA will profit because lake property represents about 90% of the hearings. Right now the . lake is dead; nobody is buying, selling or building. They are being taxed to death. So I 've had no work on the lake the past year, which is very unusual . That's a direct on the reassessment and the taxes. Mrs . Stover asked about capital expenses. . .Alex said no , talking about perhaps a calculator, stapler, that sort of thing. Share expenses on paper; capital expenses, I can think of nothing. Alex said in part-town we took $200 . right out of CE; Mr. Reitz asked the status , townwide of fire inspections; they were partially done by Doug. Alex said it isn' t done, but it 's not getting top priority. About 25% of the multi-residences and public assembly and most of RT96. Not going to be a number one '. priority. Also have done two or three solid fuel and picked up fees for that. Mr. Curtis said that when new businesses come in can charge $50 . for a fire inspection. Alex said he would gladly put in • something like that. Mr. Curtis said it helps to keep you up-to- •• date on fire inspections . We call it Change of Nonresidential • Occupancy. Mr. Hogan said you have $2000. in Contingency, so if you should go over you should be covered. Alex said we have a Master Plan • _ Committee who are doing overlays, maps; may be a small expenditure there. Also the Planning Board. Don' t mind seeing it lean and mean but wanted to make it known that it 's pretty tight. • Mr. Hogan said hopefully the Master Plan Committee is coming to the end of their task next year. Feel a $1000 . will hold it. Alex said the other matter he would like to address; he signed a • petition, which the Board may or may not have received. I am of - the opinion that if the Board felt that we didn' t merit any cost of living increase I would go along with that. But you better be really careful in terms of how you address a cost of living or merit increase. If you are increasing certain body of work for the town under merit you better have some guidelines for that • • merit, and have it spelled out clearly, because I feel a little bit put off getting a 3% raise and another group of people • getting a 4% raise, under the auspices of it being a cost of living increase. I pay the same amount of money for a loaf of bread as they do, I would keep that in mind. I have no problem - if you thought the highway crew did a better job than we did and they deserve a higher percentage, but set the guidelines for ' • that , let us take a look at it, see where I could do better so I - could merit a little bit more money. If it 's a 0% rate for everyone, i would go along with it; would go along with a 2%, 3%, but I think it should be fair. If it is a merit increase let 's see some guidelines . When employed by Cornell , they based increases on merit, but there were very specific guidelines that the people had to go by. Mr. Hogan said don't think we can compete with Cornell as far as setting goals for each position and those guidelines . Basically what we did here is we had an executive session and we talked about salaries for positions and we felt the town highway crew is an outstanding organization, with the blizzard last year they did one super job, we were cleaned out before anyone else in the County and guess we just felt they are the beat highway crew in the County and we ought to show them our appreciation. In any case, your comments . . . . 140 .. Public Hearing/Budget 3 • Town of Ulysses November 1, 1993 Alex said then it should be spelled out that it is a merit increase and not a cost of living. Mr. Curtis said think that's a misnomer; it clearly wasn' t my impression that 3% was considered a merit and the extra 1% was in recognition of the very adverse conditions and the outstanding • job they did, and maybe in the translation it came out all cost • of living and I can understand as you have pointed out, it costs as much to live where you live as it does up here and that point is well taken. Mr. Hogan said Yes, that was a misnomer; 3% was a cost of living III increase. Alex said I can live with that as long as it 's spelled out. Mr. Curtis said there is no scientific precision to it; think we all kind of recognized that it was one hell of a yetr last year and they did just a super job and 1% is probably not enough or whatever, but what Bill says, we can' t be more precise • than that, that we just felt it was reasonable to do. Mr. Hogan asked if there were any other questions and hearing none the public hearing was closed at 7 :30pm. As an aside, Mr. Hogan mentioned that he knows we are not in an official meeting but to answer Mr. Reitz's question. . .thought we would wrap up the budget at the Town Board meeting next week. As • of right now we don't have much else on the agenda. Mr. Reitz said OK, and part of our deliberations about the percentage increase/decrease of the total budget, we had an in depth discussion about the percentage of salary increases to the various departments; we would try for a goal of at least a 3% cost of living and we are down to where our tax decreases of 4.7%. Can we meet prior to the board meeting and discuss salary adjustments or do you want to do that at the start of the regular . meeting? Mr. Hogan said we could meet at 7 :00pm. Mr. Curtis asked if that would give us enough time, suggested 6: 30pm and was agreed by the board members. Mrs . Stover said she too has other . questions that were never settled. Want to discuss DA and DB with Jim Meeker. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm 1 “A...I ._. . .. s •'q' r ' ri 16 TOWN OF ULYSSES ''. PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL , , NOVEMBER 1 , 1993 .i :; PRESENT: Chairman David Tyler; Members : Krys Cail , Gregg Hoffmire , Dan Smith and Budd Stover; Secretary: Roxanne Smith. • The meeting was called to order at 7 : 35 PM. A motion was made • by Krys to approve the minutes from October 25 , 1993 , Gregg seconded and the minutes were approved unanimously. ;. Discussion ensued on the existing zoning ordinance. David asked '” the Members whether they should work with what exists now or start with • .. a clean slate. Krys stated that she would like to see all the required . information in one place. Some of the ordinances from surrounding areas , seem more compact. David presented to the Members an example of what the City of Ithaca has done. They have a pull out map with all the zones on the front. The backside has the required information on the zones summarized. They have a very complex ordinance with about twenty zones . It is extremely user friendly; the Members were impressed. Regarding the existing ordinance David said it could be dealt with in two different ways. • 1 . Clean slate: starting over takes more time but it will be a neater package in the end. 2 . Existing ordinance: users could see how it was arrived at. It would have an updated rationale. • Krys commented about the Special Permit process . The basis for the decision to grant a Special Permit has not been made clear. This ; could put you in a bad position if you went to court. The Members re- ferred to minutes from October 25 for the criteria of the Special ii Permit process (page 2 , items one and two) . Another aspect that Krys • thought of after the last meeting was extending municipalities through l' 111 large areas (for example two different directic.ns: the golf course and cemeteries) . They may not wish to pay for water and sewer. The criteria for the Permit listed in the previous minutes deal with neg- ative effects. This may not be a negative effect. It isn' t a big issue until you have a large expanse of land. The Members changed the criteria for Special Permit process to read: 1 . Impact of proposed use on the neighborhood (traffic burden, demand on municipal resources , population density, character change, noise level, public safety and welfare. ) 2. Impact on planned future infra-structure improvements and • land use evolution. . 3 . As a condition for granting a Special Permit it shall not be unreasonable for the BZA to require certain conditions to be met to ameliorate the identified detrimental factors. '" Discussion turned to Nursing Homes , Group Homes, etc. and where • they should be located in the zoning ordinance. Krys thought that ' they might work well in interior fields not under cultivation that do not have a lot of road frontage. They need to be provided for. Alpha House has sixty people living there said David. On page 4 , Article IV, Section 1 , items 5 (third column on page) S the statement "Variations of the standards set forth herein shall require application for a Special Permit. " will be added to the "Exist- ing situations . . . " paragraph. Paragraph q will be removed from the Residence Districts and put in the Commercial Section. David queried the Members on their views on Rlb. If the uses are • the same as in Rla why have the distinction of more acreage? After , - looking at the City of Ithaca' s Zoning Ordinance they discovered that they did have some differences. It was decided that they needed to . . . TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL NOVEMBER 1 , 1993 • look at what was more appropriate on the larger parcels. Looking • back at Section I (Residence Districts) under Article IV, The Mem- bers decided that Rlb would be all of Rla plus i, j , k with Special Permit. In letter f "driving range" will be inserted after the word "except" . In letter i "Hospital or sanatorium" will be deleted and replaced with "Treatment or research" . David mentioned that the accessory apartment needs to be defined (in Rla and Rib) . The Town of Ithaca states that it shall not exceed 50% of the total floor space of the primary dwelling. We don't want '_ to encourage basement apartments stated Krys. For an outbuilding • apartment in Rla the floor space shall not exceed 40% of the total floor space of the primary dwelling. In Rlb it shall not exceed 60%. . The agenda for the next meeting (November 15 , 1993) will be to work on Multi-Family. The same level of care that we take with a .' big apartment complex should be taken with the Multi-Family said Krys. We might want to limit locations said David. The meeting adjourned at 9 : 15 PM. r : ® . . .!- -, ... .'1t +C.:'4:11 1 .. { (i ir. '. . r . }._1i'. : .'.•,:,+�i�;Se: t...ijl. ,,, 4' 'i:'7G :, .',. ..!.:_fn. } TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING • TOWN HALL ' NOVEMBER 8, 1993 PRESENT: MEMBERS: RUTH KAHN, CATHERING STOVER, JOANNE MOLINO, SUE POELVOORDE AND DAVID TYLER; SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITII 4 The meeting came to order at 7: 10 PM. Ruth shared with the Members information she has gathered for Community Facilities (Section VII , proposed outline for the Master Plan for the Town of Ulysses) . Jack Fulton will be getting a report to her on the c. Fire Department. She was informed that Tomtram averages a little more than 5000 passengers per month. It is highly subsidized, • 30% of the cost is covered by the riders (averaging for all the routes) . Ruth also talked with Mrs. Lange (principal of the Ele- mentary School in Trumansburg) . She inquired as to why there are still problems with space in the district. (Mr. Delaney has re- located along with the Business Offices. ) Her response was that they are required to follow state mandates. For instance, they are required to have three resource rooms; currently they are using ~. three cubicles. The entire Middle School has to use the High School ' s auditorium when they need to be addressed as a whole _ body. Computer rooms are now required. The cafeteria space is ' . very limited (Middle School) . They have 5 classes at every level . in the elementary building. The district has 1493 students, by 1996 they project 1, 543. . Sue indicated that it will be necessary to get documentation • to support statements made about housing (the fact that it does . not support the services needed) . She suggested that the Members go through the outline and discuss each item and from that formu- ® late a plan of attack. The history of the Town of Ulysses will be in the Introduction. ' The Members discussed the outline (proposed) . Topic A. . "Traffic Circulation" , item 1 . Types of roads that serve the • Town (Map) ; Sue said that it would be good to include a sheet of definitions on the types of roads along with different line symbols. The major roads would be listed (Rts. 96, 89 , 227) along .. with secondary roads (Perry City, Halseyville, DuBois for instance) . The County reimburses the Town for maintenance of roads. For A, 2a-Traffic Volumes, the roads will have traffic counts done on them. For item 2b, Level of Service; the roads are studied to see if there are traffic holdups/flow problems. The comments for c, accidents, will come from DOT (Department of Transportation) . For d, Relationship to Development, existing conditions will need to be stated. For Section B, Transportation Improvement Programs , the Jenny Creek Bridge is operable (but not for public use yet) . Once . . an area is considered a Metropolitan area (Town of Ithaca, City of Ithaca, Cayuga Heights, Village of Lansing) a planning organization ' kicks in that the federal government oversees. Money becomes avail- __ able from the Federal Highway Fund. The Ithaca/Tompkins County Transportation Council is in this process now. It is an entity I/ unto itself, the DOT has a representative and a Director has been hired. For C, Mass Transit,Sue indicated that she saw no incentive for people to use it. David said a change in the cost of fuel could make a difference. It would be a good idea to list the areas of pick up. For D, Bicycle/Pedestrian Initiatives, Sue mentioned the bicycle path. It would begin at the south end (Robert Treman Park) and continue to Geneva State Park. It would follow the flood control channel (Cayuga Inlet Valley) along the west side of Cayuga TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TOWN HALL r NOVEMBER 8 , 1993 Inlet Creek all the way to Robert Treman (under Rt. 13) . It then would follow the railroad tracks (thru Interlaken, Covert and Romulus. it will skirt Ovid. ) Possibilities that might be ' discussed would be a path along the stream corridors and alternate '` access of the areas. The Members looked at topic II , Environmental Setting. The topography will be mapped out. David wondered how old the existing soil maps were. Sue suggested that the Soil Conservation Service . . should be contacted. They need to get more current information; information on hydrology , wetlands etc. The U. S. Geological Service may have what they need. Each separate soil type will not be mapped out. Gary will do the layering. For example, the drainage area will be mapped out with overlays showing bedrock etc. This will show .. where certain areas are best served by not developing. Joanne will call the Geological Society. David said he has some flood plain maps available. Catherine said Alex may have wetland maps. Item C, 5. Air quality was mentioned. Ruth stated that Babcock' s dumping could be an issue for the air quality (to the East, near Krums Corners Rd) . Sue suggested that buffer zones may be appropriate between farms and residences so they don ' t interfere with each- other. David asked if our streams were tested on a regular basis. The streams are classified on the basis of what acitvity the stream _ can support. The Village will be running into problems as Frontenac Creek, where the treatment plant is on, is going to be upgraded from a D to a C. They are projecting a cost of $700 , 00 to upgrade. The DEC (Department of Environmental. Conservation) has information . on the area streams said Sue. Re-classification gives the stream ., more protection said Joanne. D - can barely support aquatic life (don' t go in it) C - can support fish B - raise fish in it, swimming o. k. A - drinkable Sue will try to get more specific information. Sue said one thing that can be done for growth impacts (under III , Public Utilities) is to call the County on their population projections. For item B, Ruth has the survey on water that was done. The Town does not have a water system or a sewer system. The Village has a stormwater drainage system. If the Town selects an area for commercial/industrial park development that may become an . issue. (For instance if Auble' s develops) . Parking areas even re- quire a drainage system. Development is becoming more sensitive to , r. these issues. More filtration occurs with gravel than with paved areas (for oil, gas, anti-freeze etc. ) . The natural gas line comes up Rt. 96 said Catherine. The ® natural gas companies have several big lines that come up our way. There are restrictions concerning these lines. One large pipe can have conduits. These right of ways stay with each property. There is a SOCONY line that comes from Enfield said David. (Standard Oil Company of New York) Joanne will call NYSEG on how far the natural gas lines go. Section IV, Population and Housing David Laurie has volunteered to cover. Concerning Section V, Economic Features, alot of the topics can be covered from the information received from the Census . I" TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING TOWN HALL NOVEMBER 8, 1993 The County has done employment projections. David volunteered to peruse a study that Sue provided form Manfield University that covered nine counties (including Tompkins) . Labor force, market area, commuting and migration patterns were all covered. Assessments are the municipal tax base; where the money comes from. Projections and recommendations will be made on Growth Issues and Economic Development Strategies. Community Facilities has been attended to by Ruth. Sue men- tioned that the park police should be added to the police report. The Park has two full time officers. In the summer months 6-8 part time police cover Ithaca and our area parks. The Public isn' t aware that they have jurisdiction outside of the parks also. Their main priority is the park system however. The region covers ten counties said Sue. It is important to be circumspect about what is indeed con- sidered a recreation space/open space concerning the smaller areas (like Jacksonville, school, district grounds etc. ) said David. We should go through the Open Space Plan too, to see what is pertinent to our plan said Sue. (Published by NY State Office Parks and Recreation and the Department of Environmental Conservation. ) It covers all kinds of open space (farming, recreation, etc. ) . The last secton, VIII Existing Land Use will be discussed at the next meeting. That will be Tuesday, November 30, 1993 at 7 : 00 • PM. The meeting adjourned at 9:20 PM. • •ill% • i, Y. .r ,. t.'a •'. :k`. :4 act.{ .,', tl Ltr, . •a+. r ' Vii'. tl �.�. �'. S4 � ..4 �:•t4 ' . .Y• TOWN OF ULYSSES SPECIAL BOARD MEETING November 9, 1993 Present : Supervisor William Hogan; Counoilpeople Thomas Reitz, Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis ; Town Clerk Marsha • Georgia. Absent : Robert Weatherby. • Mr. Hogan called the Special Board Meeting to order at 6: 35pm. Mr. Hogan announced that he had received a Petition from the Town employees concerning the cost of living increase in the budget. •3 Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to move to an Executive Session, moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mr: Reitz . Unanimously approved the Board entered into Executive Session. TOWN OF ULYSSES • REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING November 9, 1993 Present: Supervisor William Hogan;• Councilpeople Thomas Reitz, • Catherine Stover, Ben Curtis; Highway Superintendent • James Meeker; Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun; Bookkeeper Jeanne Vanderbilt ; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia. Absent : Robert Weatherby. Others Present : Doug Austic, Kevin Roemer, Free Press • Reporter/Julie. • Supervisor Hogan called the regular meeting of the Town Board to order at 7 :35pm and led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America-. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Board Meeting of 10/12/93 , Special Budget Meeting of 10/29/93, and the Public Hearing of 11/1/93. Mr. Reitz moved to approve 10/12/93 and 10/29/93 but to table the Public Hearing of 11/1/93 to review and change the date of Special Budget Meeting • to 10/25/93; seconded by Mrs. Stover. Unanimously approved. Report: Trumansbur9 Fire Department • Kevin Roemer will deliver copies of the April through October reports. Apologized for not attending the meetings of the Town Board on a regular basis. Will entertain questions on anything that the Fire Department has done in past few months . Reported last night to the Village on the Company level and the Department level . Have painted the large meeting room, front office and entryway. Had major building clean-up. Purchased a used rescue- type vehicle. . . fire company approved $500 . to letter and stripe the vehicle. Four people in paramedic school ; will bring to a total of six paramedics at $2,000. a piece out of company funds. • Realized equipment is not up to paramedic standards . Just added pacemaker unit , approved $1800 . from ambulance .money; new • stretcher for $1900 . ; $400 . for back board that • now. complies with OSHA standards . • Plans for purchase of 'new tanker on :schedule for June 1996. Need to determine size of tanker. Recent controversy in newspaper concerning a comment made by a member of the Town Board. . . there is an amount of concern that there is no- support on the Town's aide. Spoke- to the Village . . . . .. AR's.. .:. .. '� �{` e ... I1.v.'i { d: . .:!•v l: '. .. b .�.,'eiY.�i.". . Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Board Meeting November 9, 1993 regarding ambulance service and if the fire department should °' consider to provide it or if we should bail out . Mr , Hogan said things did seem to get misconstrued. I totally support the job that the ambulance crew is doing; feel they are doing it a lot cheaper than anyone else can do it and commend them for the many • hours they put in. Mr. Curtis said he is concerned that a statement taken in that context went as far as it did. . . they were no means comments from the Town. Would like to have the Public Safety Committee sit down and review figures , which would provide information to the public. Mr. Reitz said he would second Ben's comments and suggestions. It was lack of communication, in part . A survey would be interesting and necessary when we are going into 1997 , when the building will be paid for and that money that was being paid for out of town taxes, what direction that money •. should go. Mrs . Stover said older people are concerned. They don' t understand what is going on; aren' t aware of cost . They should be given the whole story. Some more brief discussion ensued regarding Disaster Plan, further training and levels of training (CPR, EMT, etc. ) . • Report : Representative James Mason Absent . Claims Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to approve Claims *357-406 in the amount of $21 , 375 .08, moved by Mr. Reitz seconded by Mr. Curtis . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye • Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Supervisor's Financial Report Board reviewed. Hearing of Individuals and Delegations None. OLD BUSINESS Planning Board Vacancy Received a letter of interest from Russell Carpenter. Makes two interested candidates . Need to interview. Scheduled a Special • Board Meeting for November 16th at 7 :00pm. Budget - 1994 Mr . Hogan said there are a couple of items we want to change in the budget. At our work session we went over everything in the A Fund. . . questions, Jim, on the Highway Fund. Discussed DA5130 . 2 and DA5130 . 4 with Jim. Mr. Meeker said the 02 is equipment; at the end of the year if we have anything left over we usually transfer that into the equipment reserve. The 04 is contractual ; buy fuel , tires, working on fuel tanks right now and that 04 money is equipment repair. Had planned, depending on how things look in December , on purchasing .a wood chipper on State bid. Mr. Hogan asked when the fuel tanks will be tested. Jim said hopefully in next couple of weeks have them tested. . .all tanks are down in fuel . . .will need to buy 4000 gallons of fuel and that will come out of 04 account . Mrs. Stover asked if new tanks are ready and Jim said Yes . i Y!_.M1. 'f2 , I . 4 �•.r. 1 . :1'. ."C:�• .N , lt' ,�I,"••l. . Vc { . . : 1^, t ° ♦ j -L Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Meeting • November 9, 1993 •a ' Discussion ensued regarding various areas of the Highway Department . Won' t bill County for mowing until Nov. /Dec. , will be • about $3500 . Snow contract is up 13%; $50,000 . is realistic. • Hr. Hogan said DB5110 .04 and DB5112 .02 were discussed; $52 ,000 . tied into CHIPS money, correct? Jim said Yes. Mr. Hogan asked ' about the $38, 450 . Maintenance. . . Jim said DB5110 .04 is Town money, anything that is not capital , such as cold patch, guardrails , trenching, oil and stone, anything that is not guaranteed ten year life. Mr. Reitz said we made no adjustments from last year. Mr. Hogan said we had an executive session earlier tonight and discussed the letter we received from the employees concerning the cost of living increase. Discussed it at length. I was • asked to draft a letter to the employees . Basically the cost of living increase is a .3% increase; . the extra 1% salary increase for the highway crew we decided was in recognition of an outstanding performance during the year filled with adverse weather conditions . There was so intent to slight the other • • employees . The intent of the Board after lengthy discussion was to recognize the - outstanding job done by the. highway. crew. The • salary adjustments- for the coming 'year will be left as . presented. Would entertain notion to adopt the Budget for 1994 as presented, moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by. Mrs. ..Stover. Mr. Hogan, Aye Mr. Reitz _ Aye • Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Adopted. . .• NEW BUSINESS • New York State Parks Survey • Mr. Hogan suggested tabling until our Special Meeting on November • 16th. Mr. Reitz said it seems to him that it is more an individual survey rather than Town Board. Mr. Curtis said it doesn' t make a lot of sense to him. Commonwealth Electrical Inspection Service Mr. Hogan asked Mr. Rachun to comment . The Electrical Inspector is a sub-contractor from the Building Inspector. Felt . uncomfortable with Atlantic Inland; feel the same about this firm, don' t know much about them. We can stay with one ,: electrical inspection service as long as we put it out for bid. . New York Board is the service of choice and would rather stay • with them. • Short- discussion took place. Decided to change the first of the year to only New York State Board. . Re: indemnification. Mr. Hogan spoke with Joe Farrell and he ., will get an estimate. . Needed to. fill out. questionnaire, which Bill did. Should have information within a couple of weeks . Indicated'. that it will be an additional . $2000 . -$2500 . . Mr. Rachun said he doesn't • know 'how the coverage works and. asked. Mr. Curtis how it works in Lansing. Mr.. Curtis.. said. they just adopted it; didn't think it cost anything, but will ask. Short discussion ensued. . - Jacksonville Road/No Parking . Mr. Hogan said that we received a letter from Don Oliver, NYS "r➢:J. 'i'. "" ..r 1 e' ...:91•v„Mc Sr r •[f_ • .i'.. • ,, �. :i,• .T� . "' I c it 'r i•.r .% -O ,• Town of Ulysses 4 Regular Board Meeting November 9, 1993 Parke , in July regarding parking along the Jacksonville Road. The County will be putting up signs, No Parking, but won' t do so until they have a resolution from the Town. Mr . Reitz moved the following resolution, seconded by Mrs. Stover: RESOLVED: that the Town Board, Town of Ulysses supports , in the interest of public safety, the New York State Park request for No Parking signs as designated on the map and per the letter from Don Oliver dated July 28 , 1993. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs . Stover Aye +;r Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Copies of this resolution will be sent to Tompkins County • Highway/Ward Hungerford; State Park. REPORTS Town Clerk, Marsha Georgia reported that total fees collected for the month of October $3,181. 89 of which $1, 242.84 was turned over to the Supervisor. Spoke with Bruce Wilson regarding the reprinting of the Zoning Ordinance. Pointed out several points; maps cannot be used until adopted, etc. Will put his opinions in • writing. Also reported on State Archives and Records Seminar in Elmira, attended by Town Clerk and Deputy Clerk. Looking into hopefully writing a grant for the Town. Aim the grant toward microfilming; up to $50 ,000. for an individual grant . Highway Superintendent, James Meeker, reported. Did shoulders, guardrails , serviced trucks. Working now on plow trucks . Jenny Creek bridge is finished. Taughannock Creek, poured concrete. Will cure for fourteen days, perhaps reopen early December. Code Enforcement Officer, Alex Rachun reported one start, three additions , six permits issued. Board Members Mr. Reitz mentioned the County Planning Meeting Wednesday evening. Talking about County transportation planning. Mrs . Stover said the recycling shed needs doors . State Parks have donated doors and Calvin will need help getting installed. Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence received. Tompkins County Board of Reps has notified us that our appointment is due for all representatives whose terms expire December 31, 1993. Have Fire Disaster and EMS Advisory Board/3 year term, two vacancies; TC Planning Board/3 year terms, presently Tom Reitz is our representative to the Planning Board; and Environment Management Council/3 year term, presently Roxanne Marino. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mrs . Stover, seconded by • Mr. Curtis to appoint Thomas Reitz as the representative from the Town of Ulysses to the Tompkins County Planning Board. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Abstained Mrs . Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye %.::::A..- - ' , . ^,, e� ,. , 34. .5 `. • . S :I t• ew 1 . .. ' a' . Cr `. . J •1. .. ( , ',(Y ,?y._ ', , Town of Ulysses 5 Regular Board Meeting November 9, 1993 ' Approved. •='T Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis that Roxanne Marino be appointed to represent the Town of Ulysses on the Environmental Management Council . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Ns y Approved. ;r Will need to have Tom and Roxanne complete resumes. Mr. Reitz said there is an outstanding voucher from Judge Zimmerman, for the court stenographer. It 's from last month. Mr. Hogan said Judge Zimmerman hasn't been reelected; probably getting into a legal battle over the thing should just go ahead _ and pay it. Mr. Reitz said it was a legal expense and we are obligated to pay it. Reason asking, should we include it in tonights vouchers or hold it until December meeting? Mr. Hogan said let's hold it until December. Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn the meeting, moved by Mrs. Stover and seconded by Mr. Reitz. Unanimously approved, the '. meeting adjourned at 9:55pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk pm 1 ;! .q4. _ If,v cn of .,... •4:: •. :.: L: _'4. ' �,. .-. ,.a L. <i.5,•::t , • • TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL NOVEMBER 15, 1993 PRESENT: CHAIRMAN: DAVID TYLER; MEMBERS: GERRI KEIL, GREGG HOFFMIRE AND BUDD STOVER; SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITH s7 The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 :45 PM. The minutes from November 1 , 1993 were reviewed. One correction was made on page one, middle paragraph. "Another aspect that Krys thought of after the last meeting was extending Municipalities. . . " . Municipal service will replace Municipalities . Budd made a motion to approve the minutes , Gregg seconded. The minutes passed unanimously. In discussing Multi-family units (of 3 or more) the areas should • be sewered stated David. (He brought out the land use map from Alex' s • office . ) The Members looked over the map to see where Multi-family Residential could go. The trailer park was mentioned. Gerri stated that she has a problem putting multi-family in an area that is already so densely populated. She mentioned the housing in Enfield and the • tendency for them to reoccur. Budd asked if when the new septic plant was put in in Ithaca if there was any for thought as far as capacity? There is some excess capacity and it probably will be gobbled up due to the Cayuga Heights plant. (There has been a moratorium placed on it. ) That plant traditionally provided service to the Village of Lansing even out to Dryden, etc. Capacity has been reached and for three or four years sewers have essentially been frozen. Part of the settlement has been to use some of the city' s excess capacity said David. The sewer line would be very expensive for the Town of Ulysses said David. The idea is to find the path of reality and not develop potential sites for Multi-family units at this evening' s meeting stated David. The Members agreed that if there are more than 4 units they need to go into a sewered area. Alex' s comments would be greatly welcome, said David. He could tell us if the Multi-family unit (4 or less) could go anywhere said Geri. We' ll keep the distinction for the R2 as 4 family or less , non-owner occupied. The R3 will have more than 4 family and could require water and sewer. The R3 could end up in one or two places; near • the Town line or around the edge of the Village (an area that perhaps will be annexed) said David. Gerri felt it was important to address acreage for each Residential. After discussion the Members decided on the following: R2 - Acreage (4 Families or less) •• minimum one acre per unit (non-sewered areas) . The setback will be graduated depending on the number of units. one unit- 75 feet two units-90 feet three-four units - 100 feet Height restriction- All units to be at or above grade up to two stories . • R3 - Acreage (4 Families plus) - Specify the number of stories and specify the percentage of lot that is covered with improvements. Will the height limitations be the same as in Residential asked Gerri? We should make a special request for Alex to attend the next meeting to address fire codes, height restrictions and setbacks . Rla and Rib will be permitted in R2 and R3 said David. 'a:.h'• .}' I. t , Li• > . > %\t y,. .,,,v l .. '7 $ TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL NOVEMBER 15, 1993 The topic of the Duplex came up. It should be provided for as it is common enough said David. (Owner occupied. ) They are not un- common in the Town of Ulysses as they do help the owner get a mort- gage. It is easier to regulate if it is owner occupied said David. In what Residential should it be placed asked Gerri? It was decided it will go in the Rlb. Gerri asked who would enforce it? Alex would • said David. Restrictions would be placed in the title (owner occupied) . The Town of Ithaca does this. It' s an effective mechanism. Every time there is a change of title the lawyers look into it. We should look into that, it might make Alex' s job a little easier said David. The City of Ithaca inspects every multi-dwelling every three years. ' They require a Certificate of Compliance. It' s the way they keep their code enforced. It' s a more expensive way of doing it; more labor intensive said David. The less the Town has to be involved the better he said. The topic of Multi-Family will continue to be addressed. The • 29th of November will be the next meeting. The meeting for December will be on the 6th. (Two weeks back to back) . Gerri made the motion to adjourn; it was seconded. The meeting ended at 9 : 15PM. 1 / •. . . . .. . .r ^ y'7oi ., a . . . ..fa .'t.' ,. ., .nr. ',• ' TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MEETING NOVEMBER 29 , 1993 • TOWN HALL PRESENT: CHAIRMAN: DAVID TYLER; MEMBERS: KRYS GAIL, GREGG HOFFMIRE, GERRI KEIL AND BUDD STOVER; BUILDING/ZONING • OFFICER: ALEX RACHUN; SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITH. The meeting was called to order at 7 : 45 PM. The minutes of November 15 , 1993 were reviewed. A change was made in the second paragraph, midway down on page one. "The idea is to find the path • of reality and not develop potential sites for multi-family units at this evening' s meeting stated David. " , was changed to "The idea is to define Residential Zones and not potential sites for multi- family units at this evening' s meeting stated David. " Gregg made the motion to pass the minutes, Gerri seconded. All the Members were in favor. The discussion began with the Members questioning Alex about ; the Health Department requirements for multi-family units. Alex replied that there are three governing bodies. The NYS code breaks the units between two and three. The Health Department between _. three and four and the ADA (American Disability Association) also breaks the units between three and four; they also require handicap access for the fourth unit. At the fourth unit you are required to be a water district manager. Every month the water needs to be tested. The old Ed Mosely property and Ken Christianson have a water management district. It may be at the fifth unit that a SPEDES permit is required (you go from the local health department to the DEC regulations for your waste discharge. ) The health depart- ment has the jurisdiction. They go by the number of bedrooms , soil type and area. They will work with what we already defined as our area which is 10,000 square feet for everything over the first . 60, 000 square feet per unit. The first two units require 43 , 000 square feet and the third unit on up you need another 10 , 000 square feet. You need an acre for two units plus 10, 000 square feet for every additional family in that unit. The breakdown at three units • makes more sense said Alex. The uniform code treats duplex the same as a single Al , A2 . . It is discriminatory to make it owner occupied said Alex. . Krys wondered about height restrictions. Do they exist? Alex said that on primary dwellings we do not have restrictions but on accessory buildings we do. The minimum uniform code the "" Town of Ulysses enforces , said Alex. Exterior fire escapes are • . not allowed anymore. Gerri asked Alex his opinion on setbacks. Visually, Alex said, he doesn' t really have a feel for that. With a larger parcel, it' s a matter of scaling said David. The setback is not excessive said Krys. A three unit building might well be 100 feet wide (and set back 100 feet) . . The Special Children' s Center fits into the Residential Zone. . . Sanatoriums, Hospice and hospitals need a special permit. The daycare centers would go in by code. (A center with children under three years would require a C62 Zone; like a hospital. ) The Members asked Alex' s opinion on the separate Article for lot area and yard regulation. Krys would like to see it combined with each zone. Alex said he would like to find it all in one place. David questioned whether the Members wanted to deal with the sewer issue. Krys thought it would be good to have it in place . / yam TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING NOVEMBER 29, 1993 TOWN HALL Row houses, town house and condominiums are real popular with the builders. The units of three can have different roof lines • with private entrances, separate garages, small back yards and have a community area in common. It is more common to see twenty-five groups of three. I could see something like that going in behind the Shur-Save said Krys. David decided to leave the sewered areas distinction for future ', consideration. The Members discussed the R3 - four units or more. It is possible to get a Candlewyck Park Apartments said David. ( . . .Or a Brook Road Apartments said Alex. ) Candlewyck got a variance for their height said Krys. If the Town of Ulysses wants to accept densely populated buildings then they should be on sewer said Alex. If it' s not on sewer let them stick with the two to three units. We are all agreed that it should be sewered and watered said David. ED Mosely' s old property fronts the golf course. That would be an area for an R3. A development is being planned by Bob Seamon. He bought up an enormous piece of property down on the lake and part of it is in the Town of Ulysses. What if Auble did put apartments in? What should the R3 say • about that, asked David? Four stories, said Krys. It should be sewered with no more than 25% of the lot covered by improvements said David. Should setbacks be discussed, asked Gerri? David said he liked Krys ' s idea to have setback a function of the mass of the structure. Lansing has 6, 000 square feet per dwelling unit, their . setback for a large multi-unit is 75 feet said David. You might want to look at height by special permit said Alex. (To take lake views into consideration. ) Sometimes you want to be in sync with your fire department said Krys. The next meeting is Monday, December 6 , 1993 . The Members decided to look at an overview of the Business district said David. The height issue needs to be addressed. Four stories will outsize - downtown Trumansburg said Alex. You could do four stories but not _ exceed a certain number of feet said David. Just make it regardless of grade said Krys. At the beginning of the year we should try to get all this information on to a disc said David. Would 3h floppies be OK asked Alex? Some of us could work at home on it then. The meeting adjourned at 9 : 20 PM. • ..- 'l:: .:f, :w;T.it r..'..-1:i ,4 r..,ON:1•.l.1. 'a'rY�. r.i..::'I rr•r"i.h.' ei • '.h. .. 11t Pi'••?.'^" ..n ..I.' . :'1^.ji:•:i Y. ,*1i. i I '4 ti. TOWN OF ULYSSES - MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING NOVEMBER 30, 1993 • TOWN HALL PRESENT: SUE POELVOORDE, RUTH KAHN AND DAVID TYLER; SECRETARY: • ROXANNE SMITH The meeting came to order at 7 : 10 PM. Joanne Molino was ;: sick; Catherine Stover had another meeting to attend; Gary Myers had a deadline at work to meet. Sue reported that Joanne had received the map from the DEC on • streams. Each stream is coded and they will have to be looked up for .. classification numbers. (The library has that information. ) Sue and Joanne went up to the USGS (United States Geological Services) _ offices at Community Corners. Sue spoke to Bill Kappel and he suggested that they speak to area drillers about sub-surface water levels. Sue would like to look at the Town map and be able to get a general idea on well depths and yield for this area. Bill Kappel offered his services and suggested that they contact Brayton Foster in Covert also (local geologist) . • . David gave his report on the study from Manfield University . that covered the labor force, market area, commuting and migration . patterns in nine counties (six in New York, including Tompkins, three in Pennslyvania) . Tompkins pulls a significant number of workers from outside its ' borders. The two counties with the heaviest draw are Tioga and Schuyler. Between 1980-1990, the six county region (in this • study) lost 28 , 000 potential workers in the age group 25-34 . Tompkins • lost 71% of its 30-34 year olds. The study counted the students. Tompkins gains in the college age level obviously though. The Tompkins County population remains stable when generally the surrounding counties were losing people. There are roughly 11 , 000 who commute into Tompkins County per day and 3, 700 who commute out. The net in-flow is 7 , 600 per day (2 , 500 from Tioga, 1 , 750 from Cortland and 1 , 642 from Schuyler) . (In 1980 the net in-flow was 4 , 100.) . , David then focused on the Ithaca labor market. Ulysses is less dependent on Ithaca. In the Ulysses township 64% of the population work in Ithaca (about 1 , 500 people) ; 79% for Enfield, 79% for Newfield, 73% for Lansing, 77% for Danby, 75% for Carolyn; only Dryden is lower than Ulysses at 62%. Ruth wondered about the changes in the . Octopus and whether that would encourage people to settle to the west of it after the work is complete. Trumansburg functions as a complete community said Ruth. Employment elsewhere is limited said David. If ' Cornell has to retrench that' s going to have a major economic impact on this county said David. Ruth asked if there were statistics on the number of retired persons in the Town of Ulysses . The school district feels we 're a wealthy community she said. Taking all this information into account, what do you think our .4 future planning should be asked David? Ruth responded that it would be good to think of ways to employ our young people who are leaving. Our largest group is 30-50 though responded Sue. The kids may be leaving (for college, etc. ) but they are returning. David said that the Master Plan may want to keep things pretty level (if there is a down turn in education and with the Octopus opening up) . Bolton Point has an excess capacity of water and they would love to provide it providing the public pays for the infrastructure. Water is the great impetus to development. The Village system needs to be upgraded rather than have water come up Route 96 from Jacksonville which would encourage strip development. Do we want to dovetail the •, SE section of the Town of Ulysses with the NW section of the Town of • Ithaca; encourage Residential there and more business growth closer to the Village? The parking requirement is way out of whack (parking '(•,Y . . \:.. . 1. f ..` .. 4, , . .. , .1• A , ' I-.‘ _. . t 1 , N. Al "... "4♦ ...... 1. I. TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING NOVEMBER 30, 1993 • TOWN HALL ratio to square footage) . Planning for peak is such a mistake said Ruth. The Pyramid Mall should not be building for Christmas said Sue. As a society we should be more tolerant of inconvenience said Ruth. Sue said that the group is ready to meet as a whole. They've got the basic information. The introduction will have the historical perspective included. David asked Sue how the inlet trail was progressing. She stated that it is budgeted into the 1994-95 Master Plan. The adja- cent property owners (to the railroad beds) are very negative. There is a lot of work that needs to be done. NYSEG is interested in sell- . their right of way. The state is looking for money. All the •- infrastructure (providing it's in good shape) will be used. The park pick-up truck is probably the heaviest vehicle that would go over it. The big thing is the acquisition said Sue. David said that he thought the group would be more productive if they met every week for shorter meetings. Sue agreed that the commitment needed to be made. We would spend less time re-hashing everything said David. Brainstorming has been a good method said Sue. It would be nice to start the year all organized said David. The next meeting will be Monday, December 13, 1993, at the Town Hall at 7: 30 PM. (Note changes of day and hour. ) ,t .' '"C•:1 .b :;. '. r :. .. ' ' . l . .Y. ;1:4'; r. ' s ^ .' Y:' i.� : (: • .. ~i t .:;%-; ..'i / it .4. ... 1 y . . 2. PLANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN OF ULYSSES DECEMBER 6, 1993 • TOWN HALL . • PRESENT: CHAIRMAN: DAVID TYLER; MEMBERS: BUDD STOVER, DAN • SMITH, KRYS GAIL, GERRI KEIL; SECRETARY: ROXANNE • • SMITH. The meeting was called to order at 7: 45 PM. The minutes from !, November 29, 1993 were reviewed. The second paragraph, third sen- tence should say "The NYS Building Code breaks (distinguishes between) the units between two and three. In the following sentence, "ADA" means Americans With Disabilities Act. The seventh sentence, "The old Ed Mosely property. . . should say "The former Ed Mosely property. The 6th paragraph, last sentence "C62 zone" should read C (6) (2) Zone. Page two first paragraph, the first sentence should have "nationally" at the end of it. The third paragraph, first • ' sentence "Ed Mosely' s old property. . . should say "Ed Mosely' s former property. . . " . The same paragraph, third sentence should say "A . development is being planned by "Tom" Seamon (instead of Bob) . "He bought up an enormous piece of property down on the lake. . . " should say "near the lake" . The last paragraph, next to last sentence, the word inch has been added to 31, to say 31 inch floppies. Krys made a motion to pass the minutes, Budd seconded. The minutes passed • unanimously. After reviewing the minutes Krys had a few questions she would like relayed to Alex. If an exterior fire escape were roofed would that be allowed? Also, referring to the next to last paragraph on page one, Krys stated that she would like to see the separate Article for lot area and yard regulation combined with each zone. She would like to know if Alex agrees with that. . The Members returned to the definitions of the Residential breakdowns. It was decided (after much discussion) that there will be no height restrictions in Ria Rlb. The Residential breakdown is as follows: Rla - single family, accessory apartment (up to 2 acres) Rlb - above 2 acres, single family plus accessory apartment or a duplex (owner occupied) R2 - Acreage (3 families or less) , minimum one acre per unit • (non-sewered areas) . The setback will be graduated depend- . ing on the number of units. One unit - 75 feet Two units - 90 feet • Three-four - 100 feet Height restriction - all units to be at or above grade up to two stories. (Three stories and more by special permit) . R3 - Acreage (four families plus) - four stories not to exceed 40 feet, from average grade, (more by Special Permit) sewered with no more than 25% of the lot covered by improvements. The Master Plan Committee is still working on their Draft. Hope- „ fully they will have something concrete by next winter said David. He suggested that the Members meet every week in January and have , , :t •h,*!.. '..1. ' e';: d - 7{i . 1/2-' , , .¶ , C.lu:•.i _ •C,: r•''_`t"i4;:7.' :t. oi , .'� / 't .Y y.. PLANNING BOARD MEETING 2 TOWN OF ULYSSES DECEMBER 6, 1993 TOWN HALL rt• . shorter meetings . Krys said if they are going to meet every week that Mike Stamm from Tompkins Area Development Corporation should be invited to speak to the Members. He has the ability to forsee what type of business will come here and what they require. Every- one agreed that this was a good idea. We' re looking for insights, S not designs. Locating an industrial zone and how to buffer it; environmental safeguards, getting an overview - what businesses are hot; all would be issues that could be addressed said David. It was decided that Krys will contact Mike Stamm. The Master Plan Committee will be invited, along with Alex. Krys asked for a one sentence statement that she could give to Mr. Stamm. The Members said that the Town of Ulysses would like to investigate the possi- bilities of attracting more businesses. What kind of "industry" is compatible with this community? The Members decided that it would . be a good idea to let Town Board Members know about the meeting by posting it, and also letting Marsha pass it on at thier next meeting. The Members quickly broke down the Business Zone as follows: B1 - Office and Professional Services or Commercial/Low Traffic B2 - What is current with Auble plus light industry (not defined) . B3 - Balance of present with light industry We want to provide for these locations, be pro-active and not re- ., active said David. All the Members agreed. The meeting adjourned at 8:55 PM. I ' I 11• r:a,n (i.Y: n'c ..:<.:�t L'i•1:� ' ., t •:1 , .. •�.i f •�.qd �'1' ., t /'�+ �.' .r.1 - ' ', ... "• . TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING DECEMBER 13 , 1993 • • TOWN HALL • PRESENT: CHAIRMAN: GARY MYERS; MEMBERS: DAVID TYLER, CATHERINE • STOVER, RUTH KAHN, JOANNE MOLINO, SUE POELVOORDE, CARL • MANN; SECRETARY: ROXANNE SMITH. The meeting came to order at 7 : 45 PM. Sue suggested that the Members go over the outline for the Draft by subject. Using a flip :' chart they could list all the facts; thoughts on what they see for the future, list objectives; eventually listing recommendations. These would be brainstorming sessions; this way everyone would be • seeing the same information. Eventually Ruth could then put it into text. Ruth did receive quite a bit of information from Jack Fulton on the Fire Department. She noted that some pertinent information was lacking. For instance: What is the cost per mile to run the ambulance? It does address funding sources however. There are prob- lems with having adequate insured drivers. It was suggested that when the Members address the Transporta- tion topic that Jim Meeker be invited for imputr. • David mentioned that Mike Stamm from the Tompkins Area Develop- ment Corporation will be speaking in January at a joint meeting of • the Planning Board and Master Plan Committee. He will be addressing small business needs. Everyone is welcome; Members will be con- • tacted when a date has been arrived at. • Gary mentioned that other diagrams (besides the land use maps and Draft) have yet to be produced. He is not able to do them himself. • (Diagrams that show where utilities, major roads, unique natural areas, and soils are. ) The question is, how professional do you want the final document (s) to be? Everything needs to be in the same format said Gary. We want a final product that people can make a copy of he said. Simple subjects can be made, folded and put in a pocket in the back of the book. Color maps are really useless as you can' t make copies of them said Sue. (Color maps will be good for public meeting though. ) If Gary can not do these maps the bottom line may be we' ll have to hire someone to do it. Alex has the colored maps, said David. Joanne checked on the pipeline. It is not SOCONY. It is now Mobil, out of Dallas, Texas. It is one, six inch pipe (in a large casing) that can have three grades of gas plus one home heating fuel. It carries the different fuels at different times . It comes out of Pennsylvania, with terminals in Binghamton. From here, it goes to • Waterloo. NYSEG will have the utility information ready in January. Gary said he may have a utility map (natural gas lines) . He has the newest aerial photos. David has flood maps in his office. Alex needs to be contacted about the wetland maps and the county maps. The meetings for the Master Plan Committee for the month of January will be on the 10th, 18th, and 25th. They will meet in the Town Hall at 7 : 30 PM. • Roxanne will talk to Marsha about available space needed to store all the maps and information that has been gathered. This way all of it will always be in one place regardless of someone is available or not for a meeting. The Members thought the space on top of the file cabinets would be adequate. The meeting adjourned at 8: 45 PM. V.•, win,..-0,,:•yw`,y i J r , .!.. j .��I . i •�:P• , 1 v Fi .r n: ♦ 1a. {Y' ' : l , .-'>r.. . J. ... -.. . " • 1 n .. �a•, *�r•.l . .. ...•,y ..,1. •. �,•r, ' ) q1: t. 4 i.�� y. l I. • TOWN or ULYSSES REGULAR BOARD MEETING December 14, 1993 PRESENT: Supervisor William P. Hogan; Councilpeopls Catherine .' Stover, Thomas Reits, and Ben Curtis; Highway “ Superintendent James Meeker; Town Clerk Marsha L. . Georgia; absent Councilman Robert Weatherby. OTHERS PRESENT: Supervisor Elect Douglas Austic; . Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun; County Representative James Mason;. County Representative Elect- Peter Meskill ; Free Press Reporter Julie McComb;.. Members of the Boy Scouts and Leader; Hop Raymond, Kim Grey, Mr. Weeks, and Mr. Potensa. , .t Supervisor Hogan opened the meeting and led. those. assembled in • the Pledge• of Allegiance, to the Flag of the United-States- of . America. - . , : . - .., Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, .moved ,by Mr. .Curtia, ,seconded by Mr. -Reitt - to approve the minutes of the. Regular.Town.Board Meeting- of•November 9; 1993 and the .Public Hearing..of..November 1, • 1993:" Mr. •Reits-pointed out a. typing' error . to. be corrected- in - . the Regular Board-Meeting of 11=9- on page 4, line 3. -Hearing- no other corrections or changes the minutes were approved. • •" Mr. Hogan aye Mrs. Stover aye _ ,,. Mr. Reits aye Mr. Curtis . aye Approved. ,-.,_ .-.. ,._ Fire Department Report Mrs. Georgia reported that Chief Romer,.had .stopped in-and .left the written monthly' teport>; Hl 'had 'also .left several. other ® months - that -had not previously beef} ,received .by ..the Town.. .. . • Counts' Representative Report .. Mr. Janes -Mason gave -his. report on County business .stating ,that • this wil•1"be` his -list. ' He -stated that he has served .the Town -of Ulyase9 for the past 16 years 'and 'has enjoyed working with .the Town officials and thanked them for their Support. Mr. Mason '. went on to report that this last month in office has .been -very difficult with working on the County Budget. He .went- on .to. • report about the different budget meetings and the .difficult cuts the County had to make. . .. . . . ,, Mr. Hogan thanked Mr. Mason for his continued dedication. . . •..., . CLAIMS • ' Mr: Hogin •entertainedta mdti'on. to approve claims #407 thru #446 • in the amount-•of $11,350.37, moved by. .Mr. Reits, seconded- by Mrs. Stever... Mr: : Cuttis° questioned #445' in. the' amount- of . $7.50 for. .the • Town• Attorney• and• claim #40,9, in• the. amount of $90.61 for. a. pager, ' presented- by the. 3ustice,dapartment; . Claim #445 will - be. . . . . discussed- later•in- executive anion and Claim #409: will beheld until• Mri • Bogan- discufses- #t •ith' the Justice: , :Motion amended. to pay,cleims3#409y40e,410 thru 444' 6' 446' in' the . amount of . $100509:76: .. : y . . . . • Mr:'•Hopan- . . .aye , . , . . . . . r ,. • o . . 4 . . e se'l . • , P�• 6,,,,i0A, . . • . • . 4.11. It t : ,. 1'J .. . • 11.x .. { , • I } ', • '• /411‘101 Town of Ulysses 2 Regular Board Meeting '" " 12-14-93 Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Reitz aye 4 , Mr. Curtis aye , • Approved. SUPERVISORS YIN1UCIAL REPORT Mr. Hogan road the report and Bookkeeper Jeanne Vanderbilt explained some transfers that she had made. No questions. HEARING OE INDIVIDUALS AND DELEGATIONS Jim Buck of Middle Dept. Inspection Agency reported that he had some additional literature to hand out to the Board. Mr. Hogan stated that he was on the agenda under Old Business . County Representative Elect/ Village of Trumansburg Trustee Peter Meskill thanked the Hoard for holding the spending and keeping the Town Taxes down. He appreciates this as a taxpayer. He stated that he will do his best as the Town's County Representative. OLD BUSINESS Plannino Board Appointment Mr. Hogan stated that the Board had interviewed two candidates • for the vacant position of one year term remaining on the Planning Board, Russell Carpenter and Peter Deeijanec. Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis the following: RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses appoint Peter Derjanec to fill the one year term that is vacant on the Town of Ulysses Planning Board. This term will expire on December 31, 1994. It was the general consensus of the entire board that both candidates would have been an asset to the planning board although they felt that Peter had more to offer due to his profession. It was a hard decision. Mr. Hogan aye Mrs . Stover nay Mr. Reitz aye Mr. Curtis aye. Approved. Middle Department Inspection Agency. Inc. Mr. James Buck from Middle Inspection Agency was present to ask the Board for endorsement to be allowed to do electrical inspections in the Town of Ulysses. , • Discussion followed with the Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun, ,the Board, Mr. Buck and • support of some local electricians; Mr.• Rachun feels that $18 Board has deeper. pockets (better liabil ty insurance) and feels he would be more comfortable. Mitt ttlei doing the inspections for the Town. Mr. Buck assured the Town that the company: he works for has just au high insurance. Mr. Rachun felt that possibly the Town Attorney could review the coverage that all Inspection companies have (Middle, Atlantic Inland and NYS Board) and recommend to the Town who has the best. Mr. Hogan suggested to table this until an insurance man or attorney look at the policies. Tabled. k 't• ;,. " { y :y ,'r t is d' . t\ . .':1 e . ; , Town of Ulysses 3 Regular Board Hosting 12-14-93 NYS Rettirpment Payment • ' Mr. Hogan reterrad: to. the article ,in the .Ethaoa• Journal in reference to payments- to NIB Retirement that ,the Town •may be liable•:for, tThe:•paper stated that the• Town- owes $14,000+. This was. tsbledtuptilt-he-can confer• with,the bookkeeper. , f: • Audit 1993 . ' ® Mr. Hogan has received several quotes. to do a 1993 audit of the Town's books. They ranged from $3,600 to $1,800 . The office of Ciaschi , •.Dietershagen, Little, & Nickelson, CPA was the- lowest- - with-. an_ estimate•; of $1,800. .- _ . . Mr. Reitz moved to retain the firm of Ciaschi Dieterahagen Little & Mickelson to do the year end audit of 1993, seconded by Mrs. •• Stover. . -Motion-amended- to•.included.•that-.this be startod .as soon• as,possible-.and .to4be,paid by 1993- funds not.- ta- exceed plus or-. -. minus 10% over the $1,800 estimated coat. . Mr. Hogan aye -. •..- - - , . Mrs. Stover aye • Mr. Reitz aye . Mr. Curtis aye • Adopted. , • . • Indemnification _ . Mr. Reits;•aaksd .if-Nrt Hogan• had• received: aay• iaformation. : Mr. Hogan stated that.he-.has•;received a- quote: on this and it would . cost-:$32651•. =Mr.-:Hogan-:advised,the=Board that in-. this quote they asked- if- the- Town- had a-grievance procedure on: employes: dispute, complaints and allegations on sexual harassment within-Abe.. I organization. Mr. Hogan had told them no that the Town does not have this, t : This would- have-: to•.bea,written. r Mr:. Rachun- has talked with: the•.Vii l age•. of: Lansing on:this.i , Mr-. -.Rachun suggested- that. we have•.our; insurance:.agent= shop: around-. for this.- •. • . : . , • . Certified; Reso.lution: . 4 , -, % ; : -.;: ` •:: , -. , -. - : . .- Mr.-.Bocanj presented; the following resolution, seconded by-Mr. Reitz : - - NHEREAS4 .Mr.- Jamea,Mason,has- faithfully and diligently : - -, served: as Ulysses.: Representative, to• the. Tompkins County :. _;Board of-.Representative for sixteen long years,.. and, , . , t WHEREAS t:r t he bas,-,served- as Chairman and Vice-Chairman of ,., that. Board- wi th honesty r and: integrity;t : , •. •. . . a . , •, .. , ' „ . THEREFORL.BL IT•. RESOLVED4 . .. that the Town. Board of the. Town . of, Ulysses, wishttot officially commend. and, thank James Mason for his many years of dedicated service, to the- Town., . . - . ..,,Hr.t Hpgant t ` t , ant '•• 1 • t "• • • •- .., , •.,. • • - . . Mrs ..8tover% , , aye , , t t. , _ . .., - •.-, . . ,.: , . . . • • . - - - Mrr.4 Ref ts, • , • aye , : r > _ • • . - , • : 1 , . . - , , . . • . Mr.-. Curtin. : , t aye, • : + . . . , . Adopted. , • t ::,, z ( ' t • :•. t r pm BUSINESS $merican. Leaion Request/hater District . . The AMerican,.legion is-,looking for. a• new place to build their home..r, Theyt are looking; into purchasing 5, acres that would be Town of Ulysses I• 4 Regular Board Meeting 12-14-93 abstracted from the B2 parcel owned by Mr. Auble. The gaining of • water would be of much importance for the purchase of this land. The Legion- would likeFthe Town Board ' to request water from the Village in the form of.-i . resolution) The Board asked if the Legion has requested 'this in writing and letting the- Town know how much water they would need. Mr. Rachun stated that he has only talked to Mr. Colvin. The general consensus was to get the request in writing. Alex will talk to Phil Colvin. Justice Request / Computer Printer Justice Rector has requested that the printer used in the Justice office be replaced. He has gotten several different prices for the printer that has been requested. Qutoes reviewed by the Board. Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis to allow the Justice • Department to purchase a new printer for the office not to exceed $350. Mr. Hogan aye • Mrs. Stover aye Mr. Reitz aye • Mr. Curtis aye Adopted. IMPORTS Town Clerk, Mrs. ` Georgia reported that the feos: colleated for November 1993 ,are $2,162. 40 and the month end report has been completed and a copy has been filed with the Supervisor along with a check: for '$623.75. Also copies were distributed to the • Board Members: - Also, Paula Mount and I are working on writing a Records Retention Grant. In a couple of days a policy for the Town's Record Retention will be completed and mailed to the Board members for review and hopefully approval at the January Board • Meeting. Also need to appoint an Advisory Committee which is usually the Supervisor and Board. Would be nice to have both of these items finalized prior to going any further with the grant writing. Another item is the Town's house numbering. It has been 99% completed with the exception of taughannock Blvd. With the new 911, would be beneficial to have all roads finalized. Dick Barr, the retired Postmaster did a lot of work on the roads; would like to check with him to see if he is interested in being hired to measure Taughannock Blvd. and the lake roads stemming from the Blvd. With that done all the roads in the Town would be complete. Mre. Stover asked how much time would be involved and Mrs. Georgia laid she couldn't guess. Perhaps Mr. Barr could • estimate the time involved. Mr. Rests and Mr. Curtis recommended finding out the cost. Mr. Hogan said it might be a good project for a Cornell student; or get an aerial photo enlarged and use that. Mr. Curtis said come up with a reasonable proposal . . .it certainly is something that has to be taken care of. Mr. Rachun said this sounds like a job for County Planning; will call and see if they can help out. The next item. . .distributed to the Board the opinion received from Attorney Wilson regarding the Zoning Ordinance. We are completely out of copies of the Subdivision. You need to decide if you want them reprinted or not, and how many. On the Zoning f;.:Rf •f i, 'f.• .{ J,, 't� r . `.., f l 1, ' .. f wl, r r t r ,.. . f1 • Town of Ulysses 5 1. Regular Board Meeting 12-14-93 Ordinance, if we are going to revise our Zoning Ordinance and ' present it as such, it has to be in its entirety. If it is . . changed it then becomes. an abstract of the Zoning Ordinance. • We are- not talking. about a lot- of. pages. Also, the maps created by • the County, . if. we are to use them, they will have to- be. adopted by the Town. . Mr. Curtis felt that- Attorney Wilson• was suggesting a brief statement regarding the abstracted version of the Zoning • Ordinance. atid. would be user- friendly to the public. Mrs. Georgia said I am trying. to explain why. it. wouldn' t be. user friendly. . .someone buys a copy and then has to call this office •• and; ask for. various copies. . . takes time. . .not• everyone. who• , purchases a Zoning Ordinance is- local. . . the. bottom. line. is that • what. the. Board- asked to. have. deleted amounted- to a couple/three pages..- . Mr. Curtis. said• other. places • don't. have all , these • descriptions . . .Mrs. Georgia. said. that. other places• don' t have what we have/Planned Unit Developments! All the PUD's are • amendments. to. our. Zoning. Ordinance. .. Mr. . Curtis said-. it would • make him happy to have a user friendly document and any additional information could be obtained from the 'Town Clerk as needed. Mrs . Georgia said as the person who deals with• the public in handling this document that what you are suggesting would.not. be. user, friendly.. in the long,,run.•. if . printed• in its • entirety the cost would be divided and the, fee, paid. would cover ' • the expense of the printing. . . . , . 4 -, , , . . . . Mr. .Hogan. asked. about: the. coat . . fMrs. 4Oeorgia. said you- have all _ the estimates... .the, number of. pages, you. are. asking,.to. delete. will not affect. the. cost. to any. great. degree,. and. that amount. will be covered.by. the. price. of, the. Zoning.Ordinance. . - . . , . , . . . . . • . Further discussion ensued. Mr. Curtis moved that the legal descriptionsbe . eliminated. from the PUD's and Business Districts and rely on the map; seconded by Mrs. Stover for discussion. Mrs. .. Stover. said. she understands. the. legal . description; . what is the other, description. you, are. talking about? -Mr. , Reitz showed- - Mrs. . Stover. .. Mrs. : Georgia• reiterated- her. .position. .Mrs. , Stover said. you. didn't. change. pny_ of. these? . .Mrs. . Georgia. said. they- are changed. only where, the, Board. has: amended. the. resolution. Once, you extract- the. legal descriptions., this -book- is_no longer. the. Zoning. Ordinance. in. its. entirety, _ . , . . . . . . . . • . Mr. . Hogan said. there, is,a . motion. on the. floor. ,Mr. - Hogan- asked _ • Mr. . Curtis. to. clarify. the. motion. -.Mr. Curtis said- I- am proposing that we print the Ordinance as suggested by the Attorney. without the land descriptions but with a note in the language that he suggests,. that. this. does.not. constitute. the. certified Clerk's. . copy,. that. is.. available. in. the. office.. . Mrs. . Georgia. said. that. is . not . clear. to_me. . . to. know. what. to. extract. . . in. the PUD!s there is • AREA OF DISTRICT, is that what you choose to remove; or are. you. -. talking about extracting ALL land descriptions, even from our Business. Districts?. .Mr. . Curtis said, Yes, . on, the Business. . . Districts. Mrs. Georgia- said. so; under. Business. Districts. A. . .it says refer to Appendix C. . . for example Insert 1, that 's a Business. District, . what. would. you. like left- and what. doyouu want deleted? Mr. Curtis said I would. Just leave that, out,. to. be real honest. . .you aren' t throwing it away, it's available in the office. . .it appears on the.map. . _ I. would Just get rid. of Appendix • C [in existing ZO of 1978]._ ,Mrs. Geor.gia, said and. not-. explain any of our Insets? Why don't. I. do. this. . . I' 11 copy. the REVISED ZONING ORDINANCE, then you. Board.members can take, it. (because this is not clear to me] and you can all go through with your red • pens and you tell me what you want and what you do not want . . .that 's the simplest way. Then from there I can go to a . - a Iv Town of Ulysses 6 '-^ Regular Board Meeting 12-14-93 ' ' ' printer and give him the number of pages. Mr. Hobah' asked Mr:' Curtis' if' he"fished ito' withdraw, his motion ' and go with the Town• Clokkla huggehtion that the Board members take' a"lbok' tt whit she'h prb :ski: ; go through it. . Mrs. beorgia said I don't mean to be' difficult, ' btit • I' don't understand what you want extracted. • Mr. Curtin moved to table his motion until the next meeting. •• Mrs. ' Oeorgia said she- needi to know about the Subdi'vision. . .we are out. Mr. Mogan said' go thead ind' get• 50 printed. iiahwav' tuperintendent, James Meeker, reported that the equipment was readied for winter, changed oil , ' filters, greased, washed and waxed. Did some ditch work on Ni11aw, Creek, mowed, plowed and . • salted as needed. New tires on one ten-wheeler. Fuel tank was . removed, lab results in- three to four weeks. Code Enforcement ffiaer, Alex Rachun, reported four permits issued. . . Board Nemf rs Mrs: • Stover' thanked Mr Meekei Or moving' the' Salvation Army box • . at the recycling center. • Mr. Reitz said we have several appointments for liaisons which are no T&nger necessary; think''the Board' should think about' what ones' are'necessi1r anfl•not'necessari. Also ha-Vet- two positions doming up; BEA and Planning Baird memo rs, need to reappoint or • whatever. Need to take action on- the nergency Preparedness Plan ' r. prior to December 31st. • Mrs . Stover asked when the bridge would bo reopening. Mr. Meeker said he had' heard December 20th. " Correspondence Mr. Hogan reviewed correspondence received: resignation from Joe Schehr/County' Youth Board, State retirement, T-Burg Schools, Youth Bureau, County. Planning/239LM reviews, Solid Waste giving an increase of $ .50 per hour to recycling worker, Youth Bureau Survey, Town' of Dryden re election' expenses, NYSDEC, Youth Bureau . award to John Rogers, SPCA. Report, Justice reports, TC Board of Reps, UYU, and Ithaca-Tompkins Transportation Dept. resident plans which will be passed to Planning Board. Mr. Hogan said there will ' be a Final Board Meeting for 1993 on 'Tuesday, December 28th at 7:00 pm to make final adjustments to the budget . , Hearing no further business, Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to . adjourn to an Executive Session to discuss a personnel matter, moved by Mr. Curtis and seconded by Mrs. Stover. Unanimously approved. Mr. Hogan moved to return to the Regular Town Board Meeting at 11:30pm, seconded and unanimously approved. . Mr. Hogan moved, seconded by Mr. Reitz to approve Voucher $448 in the amount of $766. 98; $447 for $59.25. ' Mr. Hogan aye (under protest) Mr. Reitz aye (under protest) Mr. Curtis aye (under protest) Mrs. Stover aye (under protest) Approved. Inn Town of Ulysses 7 a Regular Board Meeting 12-14-93 Above motion amended to include Voucher #445 in the amount of $750. for a total Claims payment amount total of $12085.99. Hearing no further business, the Board unanimously adjourned at 11:45pm. Respectfully submitted, Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk .n P .l: L G.if a ..•p:Y•. :�._ 00. kt TOWN OP SLTISIS . SPICIAL TONS (IOAMD MBBTIMO ., ' .1 ,, ...1 i o i , t . • DtCP t*R 20, 191IS MOWN Supervisor William Mogan; Counailpeople Catherine 7. Stover, Theses Reits, Den Curtis, Bob Weatherby; MighTay : .v bt u • w. . Superintendent Jeaes Meeker; Town Clerk Marsh, Georgia. 4 .m rvl7 + t� �f, ,al N r' t .' oTMfBS^f Ua!: .Denq,Ibnstiei SePSYWanr ,flost; ie ise 1 1 • Vanderbilt, •Bookkeeper, .r1U': (In , ?'.111.' v T i St, sill, , - ,ai • ,„ 1 , •. :'171115 t . i fni!,n' vp!Tbrt ^.I. .1 rx•. •i'• •i;1' 'P h•, 1 I . 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Chaleeearlwereumade; an gel iewsi, , pale•.A+ .q tyPOr eiroSTIS40 tpld reed' , , .. poita,i eot..pot&ag4oslse,gsnSn,Cteil Awfassa.DWfartmentt,ashquld thakrberdefLpednas Nsarpk$n Cestf,er,1eftmeeSsliAefr$ir1+Pefet9ieft S0. regarding Chief ot4fplive, a inl u:ldgwe,ppg•itbadyibiaSs-,o.,Z-.r:,• • • 'trumansburg. . .could say VC Sheriff's Dept. . . .was suggested Chief Lau:,SMfeseesentnefftesra PeN,•;,, l4ntyPA.. p4yA 40lpq,ts"atPOIr,.t1. • directioaLceadma ,Isle. 3 ,Pa ,, ig/e1d.Cr9SSt phone n eslrn414411Sgs,, e.lt 7Dt gtdrsQpQebt a,n ietnnf -.', 4n.4 %,'1 . alai /1340;m vga.io hive. Prir17 AtfT5Rii1'•"•!' rab,ot•!T i , vittrist : ,Yt . . Mr. Caution adds&knit,eai rags,iv,4*bspereeraSi, te- !rod, 4 •f}t!Pwa • Board shall have the primary responsibility, in coordinattg vitk overlapping Jurisdictions .. . hra b•,.nrl 94r:-iIll in na79• '+df to 41.10.a'-04 '• noi1' t., .c ,,, Mr.aCu$urti-i adq�ttthinfel nee srlen4,y.PrsPat71edaesa P ,. , • . v'1,Tap v.". •r: in >,�..i .• i; . 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',..,) •. r •.( 1 1 , i • Disaster planning is based ontthe Sew York State Defense '1 , • Bmaigaacy act,;t.thw realt<tlationsa aa4 tortAws oSS,# ! Stat..Defanse Camellia+soid Salt.8tlta,.CifI Oaf aunt.,CQnr*sstpninct , mbeCti# py . flan,Mw the Natural„piaaslter,,oR',,,the) Stata„pt,Sp.ifork;• and, the National Plan for Natural Disaster Mobilisatios7. •. . . Tyr Nos ittvVLRe la'tecogpiaglrt t• rtimplat AO' Preparatory. . actions averirOgultrad 1 ssIscas o stem ir.,., Jwetgsnc]. prepara¢nass al low tbe, Woxgt,.ot Al pane);toe.• s s..sat .resat Ito. psaergcncy. . .- situation.. 1ife g4,pjapesty,•it4,the,•Town is .tbrestensd or • • hit 'b!• a,tdisaster ad major f,panrrgatnop...0.0 I .,, 1., . ... , . I.•, .1.f nht,1n 9d ( i r,i lime •1,1? r'!'! .r11,A ...I f ...( ' '?''.t.t..,. “Id 44 :4.? r 1 . • The sew wank Thalle. have.rthe;.p lery..rsappgpib tit,,.;jf1.•,,., coordination with ovpflp st40140 i atipns,. to •a0e ,that, .. 1 everything possible is done to prepare for any disaster and to prowide,.forl the• safetyyandi sec •itg..AR•.the,.ammpppitr •d{rttw .a , disaster. :1141,,,, 1-; I. iflug l tsgiigmuill .,” I ., t . 'II , t %rimi l'1 :art t'a'Trn"T ••!i-1 01 •t! ••tiprr' .r l i (,•tr,.,•t'' 1 i! ! '... "l "- 1, . ;, . ,ir1 rn•; rritt.,', -,•F..r.• :.1 t.;•(n I. 1 .0“ 4.1.? 1 .. I I' p1T CV,. I I n t v (.. 1.q i h•l t n r t! (. . .i .. ) •I C . • 't Ir' I . . • . ._ I . • !, . in Town of Ulysses 1 i, ,. 2 Special Board Meetinf ` •' j$ '.la6, . r .1 ! : • December 28, 1993 ' . 1 ' '.91..! •1 • .. Yn I ,'',1 !: -i i '. : I I ,.0 lit'., , I' 'I! Inl I .1 t.. . ! I .'ill ' ,,;'i4 • p 5I1.IfAT1011ii. l '1 d1 ,. ,W . t ,. 1 t ! • f... .. ; J. • U IA, I .1 6d 1a;$ III • V nw 'r . 1.,:1•..'14 . 4'II. I : ,;.,r!'•'. - ,' : r 'Ur? - The Emergency Operations ts Cmak flr'' e i alttil be' iat eh t l/wn:till 0103 l • . Street, the Clerk's Office. Once the aupervtast"tiv aaxttisttlMe, has declared an emergency exists, the Emergency Operations Center will be atttte4 •oaia'tientp-font hdlithMtitttde desfiredi • i ' ,r: : • eeliri+enet lialibas. ae'nMltgEMeync$eatiMMS Centvr'✓wi1F'Uotlard all wataiAga9 1 dietebtives, iaforatto*, Mc;', tol varleme lseaf''• • departments as mpproftiats'.• 'Tits MilltbeLane•ttktiagb +the''ase 'of • department representatives, telephones (located in the Emergency Operations celltorfl ' radios' in the'peliee, JOltej ti ayrandtCitil Deftase bigfmftnesta aadv in the officeawef I o►oparatleg agenetea6,l': lath`enembet ilisilfeettrthe heat' ese} Cpetattoaw•Icentet Mill' be familikewit!' thia'*lan; 'flrt*al11o1M} wtt&'thbi seatiaiOrtdisl*q to eac&' res beselb li'petion$shIWlitcerdsttibst ' fotj' J:1 ' . 1 41- 1 I , i ! Mt! ta"41.q..U1 ,.r.w ' I'l'l . , 1 igi1. ''T a- r. bit;, ' I of!i.nb,(U: I"' • $llentltiq a loperatibot'tototne I - aapettilior e the'ttem- ' of Ulflhu ' the T81enieler , l ttwctibathe f'"tke''NbMegeScy' 1 i t. • Operations Center, are responsible for the metbtehaMoe--Red ! - -''." • availability of records, documents, plans and other materials rsqkitia to!disaf3irbettei t eAtt others' ;feactioas Aetng' ae' • AsiotoiIyrtl.... 1 .: 1 % 11I rii :'n ,; ;a ; . lhnll ,V -iii : ' Rfi 1 ' / ,1t. tIBOI . . 'tu'. 1 '1 : it.,:. I 1.11 ,. :1t 47$ .'., ! teaupeeppa� of Action - Members of the Town of Ulysses Hoard and otierb ' W i ►#btsoillelid a n°esstalti.as Set'air beestMetl at-'M '• the *geftettUtistatioini"61St* upon'hotifieatiea''of the' i •"'' K existence of an emergency. • ' To cope with the efllbetiteW4di t e&dfl an!topriate steps will be taken at the Erergen��cy� Ooppeeiati'Siteiter to mobilize fully the available personnel , ri'itdbr , Ifilie1�ttiter, supplies and materials in the Town of U1*i1et::' /'i''3"t 1. The Supervisor of the Towp of Ulysses, or the designated emergency coordinator is responsible for the notification sd' ':"'! declaration of an emergency or disaster. 1J;: ! lltt ; . , Y ' i. I I 1 ' v 1 . . • 1 . • . . . 2. Eack ad�otetibekt'1e 4' in- that Towa 'of-Ql heel isdtespaag'ible i . for assiitihq iiatintoffebtivtilaese ibeletilizatioh- of- al'l ' • ' • personnel and equipment of the department" to- alcoomitl isb the"t : Town's responsibilities. Each department head will retain control of the assigned department and implement orders received from the Emergency Operations Center. : r , '-, A ,.t : I: . L;•,et..1 .. r „ r.: , I i • 3. - ' I f andald ionic 'the' Cooperation and aid of 11' a ny or''al! Bier iit malatinitiesl ii tlow evadt'bf'4h imar'yenoy • or `dsaster:''' kr't*geieehtt' for' Mutual` aid- dhould' ttel' soda prior to any emergency or disi stet'.' ' , r u - ! • 4. The Town' of dmtsOri"lftb1d' setltbact •the• Tompkies' 'Cotty tivilt' ,- Defense Office regardingq ant major a#rq.1e} `or' disaster ' • situatton.' 'Civil beftfi'rassistafbe* 'should be keolested' Shish ' local' of mania!• aid resources' itn"4th lted.' I Alt requests, tor' • • Tompkins County Civil Defend 'Yisistanci ,of 'any nature by an} ' 1 't department will be approved by the Supervisor and will be wade to the Tompkins' Cemett: Diroator of Civil Defense' by'direoti phone J" contact or `bj 't'h'e 'Civil'•'Dee i n tddieRtstwork. ' - '-•1 1 " . ' - I t'. I. I . ' . h.li1 .! ,It ..I'.i : 1 : I : :1 I 5. ` l'itdi't tbaitiR'hace"inq%tesitle ilifl lkl7adb• by the' superiisor : of the Town of Ulysses to the Tompkins County lire/n e Coordinator who will forward the request to the Tompkins County Civil Defense Office to the State Natural Disaster Coamiission. • 6. The American Red Cross is recognised as the agency . responsible for mass care to persons immediately following a disaster. 1, . Town of Ulysses 3 • Special Board Meeting December 28, 1993 • Local Red Cross chapters cnn extend natural disaster relief assistance to individuals and families and the 'Red Orois can • • assume.iadainistretive 'end l finanotel "rnapod1ibilitt in providing • • such assistance: lmerican National :Red drosst•tiis been assigned • this responeibilityvby:,the:•eongresa ;or' the United-States: The Red Croas•,ahapter respessibledfor lthe TO ntii ofrUlyiefel- is tadpkins Countyctedrerosa, 0. 111118 (607)L2T3-1900x'' • •• . . • .' ` • •' ` ® .. :t 0: 1 .' ' :71 r,n ',:! L ;'t. .1-,: n .. • , ... :• RMIPONSIBJ 1ITZES AND 'flfCTIORDa,r , " .. .• The 'responsibilities and functions 1'iited';below recognise only basic duties. 10 , The-Supervisor of theltown o4 •Ulysses is responsible for the • conduct-of -diameter operationsiwithiu the Town of Ulysses: - The Supervisor of the Town of Ulysses shall use any and all facilities, lequipment,' supplies, petsonnel +' and other resources • of :the :Town of.:Uiysses •in .such •a smnner -as ;way :be necessary or • • ." appropriate :to traps:with the:Sdisaster. : . 1 - :c _ : tic r•i t . v' ', t :ti -... c4tl , . .... The. Supervisor shall::direct--thesctivities of all 'agencies within the Town of Ulysses against the affects of emergency in conformance with the approved plans for the rescue and relief of the people;. thearecovery and -the rehabilitation -of!'the -o S.r'nity ofothetown tot,•Ulysses. = -The -Supervisor;'will• utilise°servic0ss of the .Naergenayt Operations Center•:andu'its staff-for implementation of nocessary':weasures to achieve,:enerpency.'operations. • •-•• . •• •:,,,• ::1t1 ill:- .:i,;:. !1. ... •. .:1 ',.. . ,,., L11u• p..u., .'n .. .•• .... .. •P . . ..• 2. The Town Soard as the elected body of the people, shall take • all appropriate steps to prepare for any disaster or emergency and shall generally be responsible-for the implementation -of this and' .other- emergency preparedness plans. ' - r .t•• :11.rt ;,a•tt gut.: n •I!:'rtl:; .un .u, .-,,,, : •. 3. The Town Clerk is responsible for the maintenance' and availability of essential records, documents and other materials, required during ths.emergency. .- 1i;n71 1 t,; :11 0:7.. . :.33': '."•:. • . • • .... . 4. The Emergency Coordinator appointed by the Supervisor directs the implementation of the comprehensive plan for the Emergency Operationstttnter; under:•theidirection of thsSupervisor, of the Town,of:Ulysses:': :Ai so+ tunder. the direction' of theLSupervisor; ' • the Emergency Coordinator coordinates the emergency operations• of the Emergency Operations Center, prepares estimates of the • situation)iadvises.:-the:dupervisor of- operational priorities- and- • reccznndsc reqsestst for- assistance. trim' thbLTaiei+kind-'County •Civil • Defense. - _ 5 , 1 , . . - 5<.t :The Qirt.Cbigf=And Rix Gffioerotwill !betresponsible-for the direction of -all :action='to_contain aadiestinguish-fires-resulting • from emergencies and the removal of trapped and injured persons • from damaged buildingstand:'floodedtarelaPhsLPire=Chief-way• • • call :uponntheitompkinsr'County Pire--Ceordinater 'or 'the;;Codnty - • • • Civil - Defense, lunderamutual aid';.'for='tdvice and/or'assistance '• concerningttfirecrilated.-ewergencies,•'relief operations; -•and•' • coordination of emergency shelter and feeding operations. 1: 1 .. 1 t .,:.,:a :• : , .: 1 . :...1 . 6. The Chief Law Enforcement Officer may designate a Traffic Control Officer to be part of the Emergency Operations Center for the purpose of controlling traffic and population movements. The Police Department willudirict .all:taction-tc' maintain order, • • prevent looting, and help alleviate panic; direct injured to • medical installations, and assist handicapped persona by obtaining•:transpodtation:andtdirection 'them to -theineerest•' Emergency"Operating:Center: i ,The:Pol'ice Chitef 'nay call :upon the Tompkins County Sheriff's Department and/or the-'sew -York State • • • • 1 ::..,:.. . ..l' .f': r. err ., .`:. ;:r... r ) i s. • • r Town of Ulysses ...,,,,..; fit t:. ••!` 4 Special Board Nesting rn t 1•,•+N b u:nt1 f t ! .•.'it." . December 28, 1993 1 t 1•- t„rt.. ; Police for advice and/or assistance. •1•. 7 tot t•1 i77'7.;•• r), a .:•tu • ,) into he. ill •y • 7. .The ,Ten ,ip avnerintDINLeAt,dsrtaapiss*ble -.for..t$d.. t .-t a: atsp 4ce .044t;oafe nee dtbri dgesrsadt atl• oflto telrtaiekavear s iliu8 t.r ,,The asr*atendlst twillirdires8 actionto chick,p restoreand imaintain essential publictaititied tad• services -,5%$ „as..streetertbei,dgegm pgbltc ibwiidiaeal!'and /othee vital.' ` . community services, cahl'ing-npon 'all Salim Works asd'It gitieering • Services of Tompkins County for such assistance. The Sighway ; • Superintendent will work in conjumaticstwkth'•the-Mie .?ort'ttate Electric and Oas Corporation and the Truaansburg Sans Telephone Company, nd/.cr any. !other -local ,utility in(the 'redtdiation of the various essential services. fTe .gdEforcemeatOSion at`the ?oun will be respoSible or sefet7 yiaspectices A* d Singed bomes"and businested before _ • evacuees are allowed to reoccupy such buildings. 7. 9••,., Tha Public Information Officer ;mador: the direction of the Superviaor •of, the vTemin iof;.Ullsases )directs -the -•l'ocal d'isseaeihation • of emergency information, the .Ssasness of men- reports 'to the public and notifies the Tompkins County Civil Defense Office on "the,statueFeqd development .oftemergemot ssastrek, using all media of public communication. i *. : 1 ' f Fr,• .:.v '` ' - " ' - • j'OJ1 "i t•.7/- 'llr .... f •111 ]OI :1f F• t•I a:) •.r.r e,i7C "11T `)1j ey.• :....Elf 4, ,'. 1.: 'AV.a :Coaatuaications! offiaar• o + Staff aupervises',• dirrects, RFCAWMA0144WreetorwM0Pandonedamety aki::emsrg0etc7:110rnb101 . • , lipgrfnailale, acassnication.-means: and .methods.,- Maaimmia tae' of all availal4p forms;.of; -commm cationsr)will be iplannedmby. all ' departments to aid the communications staff in carrying out their • 1. t i ! t : t. - ...r, - f,p tluti i ...,•. a . . . • - 11'. The.fodical.•Officerror Staff? directs: all action to render health and medical services-.to. the community.'. The officer or . . staff should alert hospitals and ambulances in the area regarding _ anticipated medical: needs: ,.•i : :;fi,,, :• I ,': I ..' : i , 12. the SuDDiv Officer (Resources S. Production)' carries 'out• measures necessary to the emergency handling of all local resources. , , _f • . ' 1 1.$ ; ' N'')4 •`t- ' }-; ; ' .: , 1 . . ■ • 1. _. 13. The Nantower•,Ofticer carries out measures necessary••to' the,' . utilisatton.of all' transportatioa,moodes for support and ' rescue operations,. .. , , I ' ' . . . .. . 14.-Thei, Transportation Officer carries:.ont- d►easnresi.necessarytto • the)uttl)isetioa,fod all !transportation modes'. for:stpport. and•.. ... rescue operations. 15. T The.School -Rs rppeatatives'Idireet the satisa) related Wears ,,forfecbool.,stpdents', in-school dariag •an1emergency! situation. i1 - 16.,ddditoral resaossibilitisa" and 'functicnstt, !llll departieent ' head. .apd/orfl those i rsoessible fer carryingr edtn.pirtd!of; the; • omergensy,operatisaa fer the'Townlof Ulysses =shall have' their - responalbiljtieslaad functions,listed within,.this plan. . Additional responsibilities: i • I. tffIN•,of 'CONNAND :PWW,mute 11f,m! :1 ,) •'i • • ! : i •. , EH . r; t .•.1 t,.-: r11I., . ) ') . The Town of Ulysses identifies the following' chain of -cord ' flow chart that•-outlines major-positions -as`those which•Icss; be used in the event of an emergency. I . Town of Ulysses ! 1 5 Special Board Meeting . . December 28, 1993 ' '. Ir', 1Al l '. k• ..:.!11 , , .. .Ir r t ..1, I . I , , I` • 111114,1, ' ! : t •II • '1 • •Si 111 ' r I- , . , TI -r, .r , I I. ' 1 Mrintr '1 r . ■ 1., . c.r,rn'•n•cn Ant I <, t !.tt "') .O1 : '. '. i I .i, • 1. :: Ill DEPUTY SUPERVISOR •u4 : & COUNCILPEOPLE :.v ^ vd . .l ' +! ATTORNEY TOWN CLERK • I r , . ..• :1 . . . 1 ! .0 - .it i, .1. I . .i . ' ' ' • & DEPUTY • i4 4 • i V 1 ! 1 ., • I. I ' . I • . . . . . ..i' .A . . . . 5 r• EMERGENCY COORDINATOR STATE & FEDERAL TOMPKINS COUNTY FIRE a EMS . AGENCIES CIVIL DEFENSE'' '. CENTRAL ". -11 I' it 1':P 11 'I+ta Il'i _ FIRE CHIEF POLICE — i., .. r I. . . ,r .1'. • ' ,I 1 ,o . r f,"! + 1.( A P T ti , . . .,-.,1 .r. , , :L l` 1 Hearing no further discussion, the Board voted as follows: Mr. Hogan Aye ' ' , ` , ` r. Mr. Reitz Aye ,` r . i. Mr. Curtis Aye - ,- Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye '`. . Adopted. Mrs. Georgia will fax a copy of the Plan to NYS Disaster Prepaiodn'ees,' Stati`Ci ip "Euilding •22, ''Albany, tNi `12226-5000. Mr. Meeker stated that he is planning to purchase a new Chipper, Model 200+ for $13,131. Will be on State Bid; has iinetigh Money in the equipment account. Also is attempting to receive -half of the coat back from the State. r Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby 'the following: 1I'. - . RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses authorises Mr. Meeker, Highway hiperintehdeat, !to 'purchase la •flew- ' • chipper for the Town Highway. Department, Model 200+ from Roberts Equipment in =the stotil' =aslount 'of •$13;131•,'••"a Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reitz Aye 1... . .. Mrs. Stover Aye ' '• Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Adopted. , Town of Ulysses , Special Board Nestia ,•.,•r , , 6 I .r .t•• .,t.t. December 28, 1993 ,;, ; , ,y. At....,,, Mr. Hogan entertained a motion, moved by Mr. Curtis, seconded by Mr. Reits the following: RESOLVED: that the Town B cd iR t a Town of Ulysses encumber ;.,. $4,351. from DA5130.02 for fuel tank expenses. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reits Aye Mrs. Stover Areth-dIVIe403 t.th d Mr. Weatherby Aye 3dtiOn 4d1_+)4U:' .'. Mr. Curtis Aye Adopted. av7u" Mrem 3�agderbilt said that all the bills for December have not been received, suggested the Board authorise the Supervisor to make the appropriate adjustments when all the bills are received; then at the first official meeting of the New Year, the Board approve those adjustments. Budget adjustments made as follows: itU'l' n '•.3>,Vul ::;C1 '4titQ:i Mrs. Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby: Transfer $4992.00 from DA5140.01 to DA5130.01 14Hogan A�� 1UC' i:nlf9MU7' A:f:L•.i ; ., Irk•d'PI • Refits AyS:n:14 'i,l dIVI ' .t , :•;i'i • .. Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. hitt Mr. Reits moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover: Transfer $4874.00 from DA5148.01 to DA9040.08 [$2804.00] and DA9060.08 [$2070.00]. : RUnllc: CC CtiOV ^Ti:-,. •' t' : . L',..I..:.!Ln1ttIlr .i -4IMJui •.r: t ., " .. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reits Aye Mrs. Stover Aye .,vn , ;.1,: ; r Mr. Weatherby Aye ; ,., Mr. Curtis Aye •• , :, Approved. Mrs. Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Curtis: ' 9 i:GF. U v h n.i Of: !•7 ant r, e• n,) :� [ lows [$13704 00 11 , 00 Li ($15.00]. 90 08 [$3389.00].; cr :m it; wart C. cdCGd^lfin . , D:. ; L, , .y r 11 . . , ' 1 t 1.T! •:L 14P n r el :.t411 .. ,, r k, _ .. ,. 7 O 7 AY.:, r _ . 1 ,.r . Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr . Cu;.fis ,. 9,Aye , Approved. Mr. Curtjp ,moq l„•eeconde4 ,by.;Ms., Refits: 'I Mt' 1 1 i r n n ••"i ” :, I ' �. . rl • : Fl •iL; •' )i.? 1 I t ; 4 Transfer ;$3141.,00 from .AZ4SO.04 to A9030.43 ,[$234.00.]r A9055.08 [$4.00];A9060.08 [$2903.00] . Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reits Aye • Mrs. Stover Aye , Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye „ Approved. -Ii ! /CIS Tdwn of Olyssea 7 Special Board Keating , ., • " Deoember 28, 1993 - i♦ • Mr. Curtis moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover: r , • Transfer $1085.00 from 81990.04 to 88010.01 ($4.00]; 88020.01 ($179.00] ; 88160.01 ($205.00]; B9030.08 [030.00]; 89060.08 ($667.00] . • • :r '•I "t Mr. Hogan Aye , Mr. Reits Aye • , • ,,a Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye. . . . • Approved. „ . • • Mr. Belt's moved, seconded by Mrs.. Staver the following: ; '' REBFlLVBD: that' tha loyn 3ioard.of the-,Town of Ulysses ir authorizes the Teen Supervisor to make budget adjustments as necessary and to present those adjustments to "tho Board at the first meeting of the New Tear. •... c Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reits Aye - . Mrs. Stover Aye • Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr Curtis . Aye ..,-r t:. • • Approved... . » ».... n• - .. c Mrs. Stover moved; seconded by Mr. Reits: i.: " R$SOLVED C , t t the ?don ..aoard 'of -the Tai n _of Ul Ulysses :change . ••''' ' the "+tpproiicitfon 'to •$d:50 'per hour under 88160.01, per latter rocoived from Tompkins County. . . • • , : , •. : Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reits Aye • Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Mr. Reits moved, seconded by Mr. Weatherby the following: ` To accept the additional $1250.00 from the County and increase Appropriations A7310.01 in the amount of $1250. ; • . and to increase Revenues A3820 in the amount of $1250.00. Mr. Hogan Aye - Mr. Reits Aye , • Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye ' - Mr. Curtis' Aye tc Approved. Mrs. Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Reits: RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses decrease A1450.04 Elections, in the amount of $1980. Mr. Hogan Aye Mr. Reits Aye Mrs. Stover Aye Mr. Weatherby Aye Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. Mrs. Stover moved, seconded by Mr. Reits: .............................1 ‘''' OA , • Town Of Ulysses _ .. . ,. . Special Board Meeting . ' . ... December 28, 1993 . . . . , . .. . - RESOLVED: that thetas Soiid• of ihi:TownjOf-Ulyunee ' I. ,... ....• encumber $1980. for the 1993 Town Audit. . . . 1 00. 1);a 1 1 t.; . .1./ —;,.: c,.' c ..t ••, . : \ to‘t. ' .L ., ., • ). t i .. T ''' . ! :k- Mele. 110gazi it .1‘ .' Aiii: •'; ; ! !, r”. !..:.:Z.: ' " '.., ' ■ ; ,.: . . . . . Mr. Reitz Aye ..--• ., Mrs. Stover Aye ..„ ., Mr. Weatherby Aye ',vs% Ail tuck; . Mr. Curtis Aye - . • 1 , ! Approved. - 7:. I ::::.t• Mr. Reitz moved, seconded by Mrs. Stover . , RESOLVED: that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses apprownsbiririatit-WiettVotitinAtsitlei -taucha' of $125. for tuition to attend Association of .Towns ,sominar and thatthil imnftexTb&taienhfrei A112004. ' . , - .7r. tonw/ccib., ,-i.Lad •.AJAM C. i•,', IV114.‘gl. .: in—'. •. - . Hr -.:=. _ tt: bAttoHodAn.71 tii likyo.W. t", •ac.:11 ,. . . : • • .. Mr. Reitz Aye • '..- tn' 0-A -,1 r . , - - : . : c1 . ' Mrs . Stover Aye (mi.; k Mr. Roatherby Aye n . , :-. ' Mr. Curtis Aye Approved. , ,r . ./, t.7: . --. IX . , n', A . : •••I-1 I r, Y.,' :ti • 1 , ' ,i'-• . ; Mr. Hogan entertained a motion to adjourn'16 Executive Session at v, 8:45pm to discuss a personnel matter, moved by Mr. Curtiii, seconded by Mrs. Stover and unanimously approved. . -.. The Executive Session was udjourned and tk, Board returne4 to the 4pmdialieSexiNiteettfili Aich),Aisfiliii*Ousty ad/ourneat 91:30pm. ;! '' 7 . t.! . ni 'F', " i : I.. i' ::e. . • b's ‘•, •— . 1 .0-1 r . r ., . .. Respectfully submitted, ' - - •-'. ' . ., Marsha L. Georgia Town Clerk . . . , . . pm . . . • • : ,:,, : .• • ! : . : , ,: I ,,., : -.,i *.e; .0.4 •; :• • ; • • • • — . ; , :,i(": ; r; •.- L.•:,..,.r:. : ' •: I i a .7; I 1 4 z 10 ! • ; 1 ': 1.; . I: I ,,:,,. , • .. . Oe/. ..1 ;:. in 'Ling-milli': ;.! 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THE PPLANI BOARD 'f;r'~' y i :1 The:firat`meeting of the Planning, Board, appointed by the Town Board ot' ' - Ca Ulysses, St at the Grange Hall in Jacksonville on Monday, April25, 1957 . . at 8:00 P.M. Tho4q.present were Merrill Curry, Alex Proskine, Clinton Stevenson, '':' ';. • Rodri{an Fellows, Charles Dykes and Dorothy Evans. :: . : .,. . ,;i7-.01)cf: cy-.,: : ' • fr Merrill Curry presented.the various problems that have and will come before4;;. ',- �,: the Town Board. Among the subjects area new site of garbage disposal .•::.(.0. •:< §" for the town; a desire to have a plan for zoning; juvenile delinquency problems,and dealings with probationary measures. -` Officers for the group were elected as follows: a Chairman - Charles Dykes. '; ,1r r7}. Vice-Chairman - Alec Proskine Clerk n Dorothy Everts ', ti:" ti . Advisor from Town Board - Merrill Curry , 1 ' *. Charles Dykes presented his views.as to how the board could be - , s''t% i t put in force. It was suggested that we contact persons who have had ' -`•' experience in setting up and operating these boards so that we:may S . `, introduced to these ideas. Mr. Dykes proposed to contact a speaker ,• for the next meeting of the planning board. y`'' , M Dykos has asked for a copy of the budget for the Town of Ulysses. e, .1.-.-• / He also requested a copy of zoning for towns put out'by the State ' Department of.Commerce of New York for reference for each member of ":I. -• the beard. : 4' S. The next meeting will be held in 1py. The meeting was adjourned at t - 10:b0 P.M. + �t l Dorothy 1. Evans Clerk Y , S` ; `a : .. ' , i,„ ,, ,�;i. I p ,� • r'' r , 11F' wr , ,t t xrvi ,i 44F to kk `• %1,7r ,e1, . it 1y � t. f �� r r 1 � . G't�yrt ff Al s� �{ 1 e 'it.t.,_ . ". . .r U . .K. cri 'd�li'Rr , y� r st, fi7,s +� `�y 4 �' f1•}' 4JJ..,-; X414 ci t' it t,* ' .d' { l Z+r.-:.rJ ,'. . VI.t.4 I:44 t• 4 M.:9' ' ; ^y 1}'f S �Y Yt ., t,f ' {: •:, Y ?� J;:fn . 1't ,. t4 'fr .• -1....t...,, M�jUTE$ 'OP .int P' d THE PLANNING BOARD , !" T; 2't " May 27;' 1957 �i ti • fi '; ` The second meeting of the Planning Board of;the,Town of Ulysses ¶ _ ',`.:T WAS held at the home of Charles Dykes on May'27•,,:1957, at:7130 P.M., ''• •,'.,. '~' 0 1- ti'l i,,, The speaker'for, this meeting•was George•E. Hayhes;of Albany, from : ,-''-• , . • the New Yolk.State Department:of.Commerce ' ''He spoke'to-us,of:the y " n• - 'land'use maps't This is the first':step toward_futurea. planning lit our ":`,.' j;, township to be of information for departments,of:road•.construction, • ,1 , i - fire-fighting, health, taxation, etc.. He told of his.experiences of • ... . . ' ,:..i,; 5 s. . various communities, where•these•'maps had been.made'with materials• is ; s collected from sources which already.had informatiori'such as the . . �.1 , z Conservation Department. He told of.his experience>in .the past : : �`• 3�, .-:s with real :estate developments which.came'up in•communities and put ' 4 ,ti,:,i;'', great strain upon budgets in• road'construction;:Mainterianae, fire ;:. . protection .and health. ,a.. -\ �.; #-.4,3114?:::,0' >.t' Members later asked-and received answer from Mr..Haynes, who .. • c „ : . seemed to have a wealth of information. . .. ;'i,. ; .C.5 YY }Y 1 : ' Meeting adjourned at 9:30 P.M. '.?41!:14:::14.: j-; Next meeting to be held at the home of Charles Dykes of Jacksonville, ' 1 • I' i `.t June 17, 1957. . F`o e , ,§ ,- •t Dorothy W:. Evans; Clerk • . a;0' ,1 .. ; : ;-. .,�-i jjt ; e., ,4 Oil f, ..' t� + 3 , 4,...^.:./2 r .lY � • ` ' i•k t J y c . .l i , � `i 4�' A 74 vf x1/. i' l r r' a }i ' + P 1 `! i " R ' f: ' . <t'Fl : !•in ',lei l ia a •: " rK ' r ,ti •. ,} .t .s ;,. fe :ii. N . s:' •....4- *. I 1.0 )1 - 4./ . i;{ 1,4 •‘ . C- .. . ' 1 i VI MINUTES OE THE WINNING BOARD .r. • ,, _II THIRD MEETTEL - ! The Planning Board met at Dykes' residence, Monday, June 17th at At 8:10 P.M. , . , , ... Those present were: Proskine, Stevenson, Whyte and 'Dykes. •t, Absent: dully, Evans and Fellows. It was reported that Curry was hospitalized; Evans and Fellows out of town. • The meeting with Mr. Haynes was reviewed. Recalling that his advice • was to first prepare an Qfficial Map and next to prepare a LandIlse Map, there was discussion on how to get started. It was decided that Dykes would contact Dean Maokesey in an effort to determine just what these • maps were) how prepared; and expense of consulting services. It was hoped that this could be done before the next meeting. . , The view wad expressed that the most important need is to irotect the •Ili , land values in the town. Mention was made of the desirability of adopting • the State Building bode as a first step, then possibly a'zoning code. , The naiad for drawing, up a list of objectives for the Planning Board was recognized. . _ Dykes reported that the Ithaca Journal delivers 719 papers to Jacksonville and Truznansbtrg, and our material should go to Harold Jansen who is the . , lit rural editor. ti The next meeting was scheduled for July 8th at Dikes' residence. ( I -'s The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 P.M. , . I i : ( • 1 0 . t • •: . • ' 's - , ..,1 . . . . . . . _ . .- • • - . . ' • - . • - . ■''' ' n ''' ' .'...... : 410; 7f,t: Vt 4. 1.! 2 I ■ fr.2°4 4i • . • . . . . . ' , . . • ', ' ! . ' ' .• . A''e.ri 4. • • . . • , , . . , . , „ . ,.., .' '‘€4,3O't,5k, - - . . . - • • ... • - 0 ',I . • . , . . .. . . .. , . , . .... , 1 . . .til 1 i . . . . . , . . .• Ks sia .ass* . . .. - • . •... • , . •., - ' . . ' ',• . . • • -• •• • • . . be". Ilia* W. blitak.007 1 .. • 1 : .. 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III • , • 4.. ns mita a osingtois.to P1saninglessda,t Stehle et. *., . . , ••eperitits --eelesesit of des - feeleheled•hit saireimpiY ; . .. ,.. .1 •c •, • • . „. .... . . .. . , , . •,. .. .. . W. will look krord to our aselag with yie..1 • , . • • . , .• • ,. . - . . . . ,• . . ... . • . • . . . • . . • ,. . . . • • •, . , • - - - . .I' • " .. •• • • - .. • 1 •-• 01*win B.'.Dykes, Ciassin . . . , ,, • *yells Meanie; lewd .• . .. • . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . • • . , ;r, 1 . . i . • - , • .• . . . •. . , ,. . . • • • . . . . .. . . , . . • .„ „ - • • , . ,. - •. . . . . • . . .. . . . , , . • • • • ' • .11.:1:•''': . , • „ . . . . . . . . • • . i , . . . , . , . , .0 . • . .. • ... . .. • . . . • . .. • . . 1, iii .. • . •, . ' . . .. . . . . _. . . . . .. . . .. „ . ....., ... .,: , . . .. . . . • '',. .[-.'•. .•..- I . • . . . , . . , . , , . ,.. . .. . . . . .. ., . . .., , . . „ . .. , ... . . . . . . . ... . . . . . .. • 41 t "?, •}or ••'‘'i:'.( • A•Y) • • MINUTES F tie THE FAWNING BOARD ii -1 FOURTH MEETING • • The meeting was held at the home of Charles Dykes, Jacksonville, 7:30 P.M. , July 8, 1957. Dean Thomas W. Mackesey of Cornell was present as speaker. He has seVect as zoning and ordinance consultant for the New York - Power Authority at Massena. Mr. Dykes briefed him on our ideas and materials available. Dean Mackesey first told us of the Land Use Map which shows • present use of land. Its particular use is to plan for the future. It may be of any scale, and will show highways, public areas, reservations, forest cover, retail establishments,: etc. The.U.S.G.S. (U. S. Geological Survey) of Washington, D. C. • already has very good maps of this area. They may be purchased and are accompanied by very valuable information. Watertown Aerial • Surveys are also recommended for any photography necessary. Discussion of persons available for consultant and map making. John Reps is presently consultant on the regional planning board for City and Town of Ithaca and Cayuga Heights.' ' 25% State aid and 50% Federal aid is now available for planning boards to set up maps and fees for consultant for zoning and ordinance, After recommendation has been accepted by Town Board, and application is received by State Department of Commerce. I ' Next meeting, July 29th at Charles Dykes' home in Jacksonville. • Dorothy W. Evans, Clerk ec- ••Ur • ' �e:t�f'y�.�TI•: MINUTES OF 1` THE PLANNING BOARD IIFTH MEETING • ;1. • The meeting was held at the home of Charles Dykes, Jacksonville, N. Y. , at 7:30 P.M. , July 29, 1957. Present: Alec Proskine, Clinton Stevenson, Rodman Fellows, Dorothy Evans, • "Wes" Thomas and Charles Dykes. Mr. Dykes gave his report on correspondence with three consultants in regard to town planning. 1. Herbert Smith of Princeton, N. J. , who offered an estimate of $4, 500-$6, 500 for Land Use Maps, zoning and ordinance. 2. Russell Black of New Hope, Pa. , who did not want to offer an estimate until he had consulted with the Planning Board on the work they wanted done. 3. John Reps, Ithaca, N. Y. , who offered to do the work for $3, 000. Mr. "Wes" Thomas of Trumansburg, and a member of the Town Board, was present at our meeting at the request of Clifford Bower, Supervisor and Chairman of the Board. • Mr. Dykes gave Mr. Thomas a review of our meetings with Mr. George Haynes of the New York State Commerce Department, and Dean Thomas Mackesey, • Planning Consultant at Cornell. It was proposed that the Planning Board attend the Town Board meeting at the Clerk's Office in Trumansburg on Wednesday evening, August 7, 1957, at 8:00 P.M. , • to give a resume on the work and research done, and to request the Town Board make application to the State that they intend to engage a'consultant for the Town of Ulysses. Motion made: • "'' I. Planning Board request that the Town Board by resolution of intent provide $750.00 in 1958 budget. Motion passed. II. Planning Board to request Town Board to include in 1958 budget ($250. 00 for expenses of Planning Board for the calendar year 1958. Motion passed. 0 Meeting adjourned at 9:30 P.M. Dorothy Evans, Clerk • ':.;...1:4,4#•;; .: / . . 1 . , 1: • . : . • .;:t- . .. • ..;.1A ..? ...r1‘ July 15, 1967 . . .„ Mr. C. S. Iktwei , : . . • • - - •• , . . i . Trumanebuig • , . . . • ' • No* Trak - . . . i - • • . ..... • , ... , .. . i. '• . . .. : Dear Cliff: " '. . ,, , ,..- •• • • . . . . . ,,. ,... , . . ,, , • .. . • . . • : .. . . ., , Last Mondry.et my ruidance InjacksonVille, we had the flithameting • :: ' of the Ulysses Planning Saud. The first meeting was on Atria 25th, • " • . at which OS the Ward was organised and officers elected. . .... . .. .• . ...-. .... All members of the board inn preMint except Whin Cum, recently •... . . • deceased. It was the unanimous feeling of the group thet our last . .. , . , . .. meeting was the most construative of any that have been held. This -. , . • feeling was'probably'duo in part to our getting Stier iraquainted.with • ,- • .. . ow assignment, and also to having as ow guest and counsel . . Dean blackener of the Architectural College at Cornell, who has • done considerable consulting.in Town, Village and City planning. . •--• . . . . . It was owfeing of the loud ha ,' should Write you in advance of 1 . sanding to you a copy of our minites, on the following itemm .. 1/4. . 1. Merrill Curry.will be mined in may ways. In this .... . . ., ... : iroup we will miss him because of the liaison that he . ... , • provided between the Planning board and the Town doted. The next meeting has been scheduled for 7130'PIM.• . • ... • Monday, My 29th, at my residence. We' feel thst.this • ,•. -. • , is a Very lawatent meeting at which time matter. will • . • • be discussed partaining to reormarendations Which we • . . • . • • • anticipate salting to the Town Board, hopefully et your . ' August meeting. We respectfully request and strongly . . . . ., I • urge that it possible you attend our stating on July-29th. Ryon cannotattend will you delegate a member of the . - • •- 1 . Tovittlberd to meet With us? • . . . _ . • 2. So important do we fool is tin liaison between the Planning Dowd and the Town Dowd;that it is ourfond hope and -'1 expectation that Merrill Curry's sucaosiar, whO it is our .-.. understanding the Town board will appoint, will be 'a norther . t. of the Town board. 3, It appears as though thetwat important steps which should 1. ,... be undertaken by the Planning board are (a) a Zoning y.r.1. • ! •••• -A, - • Ordinance, and (b) a Land Subdivision Plan. • ' • . , , . ., . - . . ... • •-- 'r.n .• .„.. . • 1• .„:•:'.....! -,:. JL.-,: Li.4%7'. ; ......,.....:,;-'... }.:7:; •;.'::::,....:.'. •- • . .1: 1-. .". 11:.:-..'... *: :r . :.H1-77.1.... ., . -. 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' r • .. • . . , . • . • . , , , • ,- • .„ i. ..: • 0: E. -Bower • • „ ,.. ,.. .. . : . t?)•• . . .. . , •N • •; : ..P:E. , Mr.i,Reps.repoits that the•etate, now has•in'Itand,apPlications" ... • ;94 • ,. , „ .. .. . . .. . ..,,,- for more,money.than has been set aside for this year: 'Howeveri,•. : 7 •- 1 •••: iot all.of the money has been allocated: In any event we will ::•.•'..:. ; :: i ... . 9 ':•, 1 , .. .. . .with ll. . . .. .. :. ,. proceed witivour application. . , . . . . .,.. .. .. • . , ... _ • ... .. . . . . . . . . • . . .• ..•• .: • . . .. . , , . . . . i . . . „.. .• ... . .„ ..., . . . .. . ... . .. . ,•,.. . • . . . .. ... - . . • - .. • . r. • e , •,• • •„ . • .... ". . . , . . , , . . . ' 7 . .„ .• •. , , . , , , . . . . e,- . . . — • . ••• . .. • .. .. - . ,. C:kr . . . . • ' It ' . . .• .• ;• .. , • • . . . . 1 .. . . ... .• .. . . , . . . . . , . ., ., . • . • . , . . . . . • , . . , . . . , . . . . • . • . . . . 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J.r 4b 1)7 � .. �,. f}r �•v- j w b N• � V •U:.I. �, 'Warn', .'i �.•y } Y s �I , 1 .>, -.s.. 4 ;^e..., ...4;1;:P 1"12a.,. !?i Ir^ j,��. .:tt iT « lt �t+, "�C.k J,::L°:'�,..... {Li'WTth V r ssis .:f'.1f. s!•C^ •.14.1M, ��'� . ; ) ..at._ €_j _ .7Ze..6.1.- y . .y'r 7 pct- -cam. .. t al eu-&-.J % eP. a .0j • G`"" li ;• _. , e — (ate- %ate-��--w--... �J 3 . O-,,tJ y. i-s. .rJ , 74tiC0- C. ( • C. 4,-- w.-0,-i--;.-C. )-,e*-r-Z GJ yi 70 ,..4-1.-4--t_. . - a„,..„, _. 62..e...„. ..:a...-c.„J — o it Lt -c-.Li �c ..J —....e..74.4- 21 c / H r I I I 1/214' ,i/e/Ca.. 4e'llt.'"mm.t, 41.3..tn‘"''t.'/OL. th,..C.4..,,C...j, ae...r. • • I OMPKIN8 CO,VN'i'YTRVST CMPANY c 7^� TRUMANB•URO ORRICE .1 (("�, TRUMANBBURO, NEW YORK . • CHARLES W. THOMA5 VICC PPtUICCNT April 3, 1958 r . 4 • ( Mrs. Dorothy Evans Glenwood Heights • Ithaca, New York Dear Dorothy: Enclosed are the minutes of the organization meeting of the Planning . Board held on March 28. Also enclosed is a copy of my letter to Paul Malone, Acting Mayor of Trumansburg inviting a member of his .� board to attend our meeting. mr Sincerely yours, C. W. Thomas, Vice President • 1 , I . 1 { 'i I: ) , t 3 i: en '—' Meeting of Ulysses Planning Board - March 28, 1958 ' .I Present: Chairman, Alec Proskine •1.; Rodney Fellows Winton Baines Clinton Stevenson Charles W. Thomas : ) Prof. William Whyte and Mrs. Dorothy Evans were absent from this meeting. The motion was made by Clinton Stevenson, seconded by Rodney Fellows that 1 ' Alec Proskine be elected Chairman for the calendar year 1958. The motion was unanimously carried. Motion made by C. W. Thomas, seconded by Winton Baines that Rodney Fellows be elected Vice Chairman for calendar year 1958. Motion unanimously carried. Motion made by Rodney Fellows seconded by Winton Baines and carried that i Dorothy Evans be elected Secretary for the calendar year of 1958. 1,� . 4/j Alec Proskine reported that he had been advised by John Reps that final Federal approval of the Town of Ulysses Planning Project should be received about April let. . The adoption of a numbering code for locating town roads and properties was suggested as an important planning board project. Mr. Proskine made this suggestion. Messrs. Fellows and Stevenson were appointed to serve with Chairman on committee to ' 1It explore code numbering systems and recommend to the planning board adoption of a / I ' t suitable system. C. W. Thomas was appointed by the Chairman to attend meetings of the Greater Ithaca • Planning Board and to report matters of interest to the Ulysses Planning Board. The motion was made by Clinton Stevenson and seconded by Rodney Fellows to invite ' I• a member of the Trumansburg Village Board to attend meetings of Ulysses Planning •� Board. Motion Carried. .-x Respectfully submitted, J\'.r C. W. Thomas, Sec. Protein 1 ■ 2 . , . " . • . . . s- ,....• ..... 5 . . I • • , . . 1 . . -. .,. t. . I ., , Intl 34 aila • . . . . . , . . , ..... . .. . • . . . .. . . . . I .., . , VOW'r*a ltd=ao egtterma WNW: t 44: 1:k) . , . tranOvie I 1- . he leek . • eat*Peat . • . . . . . • At the eseet aeleies et lee- -- . e.. LTh...111.mteit lg. gget •. 1 Iiiilli.16.111Elefe Selet,te et'ae,,fiee Petuft Melo ,. . 1, • .-r! -• - erier7est See, et • ,. Ilelsriet'24011' L. .•I , ifrip , 14 1 Mir sellablell lieleae le . - . - - - - , Wee testelsb let. in . oat eta be Atetee2 et . . . . . " pees, . , 1 • • c a• It. 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L ?-1.7%---n-r-./ .- 2_%.4.-2-- v'++_.s•_..... ci., . .c„, .__ , i ax:,-)_ .-tc-1:4 . •ei-- -en—H1,...t7r-C./4 nc_..._," n �- - - ct' • _ - Proposal to Extend Gas Service to Town of Ithaca Residents on the Trumansburg Road; I DuBois Road and Indian Creek Road. . `. Several members of the community described above have approached the Y;� New York State Electric & Gas Corporation with reference to extending its gas service for utilization during the coming winter heating season. The 7. . present gas main ends at the boundary between theodd Fellows Home and the Hospital on the Trumanaburg Road. The following information has been obtained: (1) The Utility is prepared and willing to extend the service; - . provided that it can be assured of a market adequate to justify the expense. It is recognized that the most attractive market lies in Jacksonville and Trumann- . burg of which this extension will ultimately be a part. The Utility; however; -- does not have a franchise for gas service in Ulysses and the legal aspects • • of obtaining this would probably delay the proposed project long enough to make. it impossible of achievement before the winter heating season arrives. If this survey shows that a genuine interest exists in the Ithaca township the :./ NYSE & G will try to fit this much of it into their current schedule. (2) Installation cost (see sketch below) The customer pays a service charge based on the distance from his - - house to the. gas me•?n or to his lot lane on the bighvayj whichever is shorter. This charge is $18.50 for the first 25 feet or less; balance in excess of 25 feet costs $1.00 per foot. It includes everything' essential to making � . the service available inside the house (valved; meter; pipe; etc.) I. , / . (3) Conversion costs usually/average between $200 and $300 for heating. Customer's heating engineer can give estimate for specific installation. . (4) Monthly Gas Rates: First 2 therms (200 cu.ft. ) $ .70 Next 13 therm° 0.196 2.548 Next 25 therms @ .136 3.40 All over 40 therms O .076 • . (Minimum charge $.70 per month) !I� ✓ L.ct !,,,e i I ` -,i t. //," / , /�// : _ i�' . ,. •,'/ /r�,c ///•. �� 231:27 0 -0 Or/ a • /; . 0 . Estimates of probable fuel costs resulting from conversion maybe made on the • basis of the following: .. ,`f 1 (a) For house heating: Gas at $.076 per therm (100,000 Btu) compares with oil at $.11 per gallon (145,000-Btu) and with coal at $18.00 per ton (12,000 Btu per pound). Because cost-fired units are less efficient . than gas or oil burners, the arison with coal is actually considerably more attractive than the figubove indicate (which are based on Btu content only). " (b) As compared with bottled gas for cooking and water heating, one therm is equivalent to about 4-3/4 pounds of bottled gas. Thus if 71 pounds ,.� of the latter is consumed per month, the equivalent amount of natural gas would be 71 divided. by 4-3/4 or 15 therms which would cost $3.25. Conversion of these appliances is simple and inexpensive. There is no indication of any limitation on gas. supplies in the forseeable future, nor any movement at present by the Utility for an increase .- • in rates. Rate changes by a Public Utility require approval by the Public • Service Commission before they can be effected. It is significant that in the past 25 years the gas rate in Ithaca has increased only six-tenths of a cent ($.006) per hundred cubic feet. Please fill out the enclosed card and mail to J'.0. Jeffrey, 1440 Trumansburg Road. Under the column "House Heating", $indly include _ an estimate of your annual house heating cost opposite the type of fuel 0 used therefor. 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T x..� ..2c „ — tc-.L., te-a . 9a — 9 X A./ ' w•- cl/L.c.u„-a- 9 4 — b ,(.,t Au-c.0,..-y -,fit, — / 1- I r d o 'yy . uj„ d.t.:we-C.4.-- s• 'u G.C.,...f, - CeC-G-4-2e..6/ _ ,624:u,g.�Z..:- - - - -4 "..`.,`..,t,Le a it.ni .a/Ltt,e;�.� , .`,_,-.-e- e a V ) .�.c, e4 c-'`�+ _ OC.i.,7 '°"`.`"`t "a-Cr/ 'fit ,-).Lcy+ . c. .c, ems- r�c.. / :. .1 .� . i .moo Q-•--.,,.t. . t.�� .z�..w., 'tip,.. aa„,.,, . c • r R. H. DENMAN RURAL CONSULTANT -:' 972 CLIFF ST. I Ithaca, N . Y. AR 2-8188 Area Code 607 CENTURY SYSTEM RURAL HOUSE NUMBERING SURVEYS, SINCE 1939 HOUSE NUMBERING In the cities the numbering of houses and business places • has been in use for many years. Any person, from country as well as city, expects to find street name signs and house num- bers in any city he may visit. a, But formerly these improvements ended at the city line. The reasons are simple. In the country there was not as much need as now. Also the cost for the city type of numbering was too high because of the surveying measurements necessary for an • • accurate and permanent system. • NEW NEEDS AND A NEW METHOD With so many people now making their homes in the country and working in the city there is an increased intercourse be- • tween country and city and an increased demand for services such as mails utilities (electricity and telephone) , deliveries, fire protection and school records. These things have brought on a need for better addresses. ( During the 1930' s a low cost method of measuring for house numbering was devised and in 1939 the first communities were surveyed and the houses numbered by this method. This is the CENTURY SYSTEM which is simply the standard city system, with which everyone is familiar, modified slightly • so that it fits all the conditions of suburban and country territory. The basis of this system is an instrument operated by the car speedometer cable and geared to read house numbers direct • as the operator drives along the road. After considerable study it was found that 200 numbers per mile was the best spacing. This allows for lots as small as 50 foot frontage, if needed, 1;1 or the houses may be miles apart - allowance being automatically made for future growth, with houses added anywhere in between. So it is unlikely that numbers originally assigned will ever have to be changed. 1 The numbering survey is usually contracted for by the Town or Village Board. 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Lt-,.•_ Are , • 1 j e ,L,E- - tips/ —et-- tyt, �.- �. .z , i ! tdc,. ht �'.-.._,,A. 6,4-.0...4....,...4.2.... .t,.. -t r.,-..e.,( .c.,...—/- ,a�t _ . • /' ' -1: I-9—, go , c J U `/ l { d..(Ctu-t.A•cJ e -ILLi_t:.r,F-A J opt_" ,t_Y/z t 2,,L _-. -!/ ,..4Cr' 01-tc i.-L f.C.a..L.„/ . .. I - 29-. ei___1...,_,,,._ _ Ac_c_A ei---„........L. . c,‘ j,..._.4-7 . . . W6 .. August 10,1960. III 7 Planning Board meeting at the Town Hall of Ulysses , Present Rod Fellows Minton Baines Wes Thomas - ' Clinton Stevenson . Paul Foster ( representative Village Bd. of Trumnnsburg) Alec Proskin . Dorothy Evans • Rod Fellow reviewed ameeting of the Board of appeals _ Members of the board . Prof. Lutz John Duddleston . Paul Foster Y . . Art Millspaugh Rod Fellows (Sect. ) . Meeting had been held with Ch• rlie Newman • explanation of the board of appeals •. Appeal to be made to Clinton Stevenson,in writing - lie gives yes or no to the appeal. 1 If the answer is no the appeal may be made to the board of appeals who decides the approval or disapprov -al. This appeal to the board must be made within • thirty (30) days of the first appeal date. There are now forms to make the formal appeal available in the . Town Clerks Office. Clinton Stevenson reported some of the problems which have come up in carrying out his duties. We then looked into some of statements concerning General • • Provisions under article Five of the zoning ordinance. It was moved and seconed by Clinton stevenson and Winton Baines respecti vely that under Article 5 Section 23 of the zoning • . ordinance be changed to read. • " For the purpose of this ordinance a mobile house trailer wh whether on wheels or otherwise supported shall not be considered a dwelling or any part of E lling. Mobile houses are permitted only in trailer gww?f duly licensed • by the Town Board." Moved by Wes Thomas and seconded by Alec Proskine that: " Summer homes, cottages, and crmps onntaining los_thai► 750 sg . ft. may be constructed only on special approval • of board of appeals." • f Next meeting to be held on Friday , Sept. 9,1960 7:30 P.M. I I . . . . . • .. . . ,• . . . • . • . ® Sept. 9,1960. Planning Board meeting called to order at seven-thirty. • Present Proskine , Thomas, Fellows Stevenson, Baines, Foster and Evans. • Discussion on the price for building permits. Should is be o one price or on sliding scale ? 0 . Motion made byWinton Baines and seconded by Wes Thomas that • mom . -. f - c � , the chairman be authorized to have Attorney Newman rewrite U l YSection 36 on enforcement so that building permits are required. " Discussion of the state building code saying thrt buildings should be constructed thus and so with out regard to brand. • Motion made and seconded by Wes Thomas and Winton Baines that we have a meeting with the Village Board and have a • representative of the state building code inform us.mnex a We recommend the numbering of the town to the Town Board Discussion of who might be desirable for this Job. Inquiries to made to planning boards. Alec Proskine and Clinton Stevenson to make a list of the road signs needed to be changed, signs entering town, ordinance enforced signs, and the cost. Next meetingFrTfluxs, Sept 29th. • C.T' Spet 29, 1960. Present:- ® , Fellows Thomas, Whyte, Evans Stevenson, Proslone, Foster (Village Planning Board) and Denman( Century System Rural House Numbering) Mr, Denman explained some of the work in the numbering he has done in the surrounding towns ( Spencer, Danby, Brooktondale) He exhibited the mechanical device he has used to mark off the highways in spacing about 400 numbers/ mile. This is a fifty foot lot spacing. This can he increased to roform to our ordinance or one hundred foot spacing. He would make a field map and fill in all information o" owners now located. This map would be useful "or postal route, absentee owners, and new property owners wishing to assertaintmg their property number. In checking the parcels of land in the town we find there is approximately 976. An estimate of the cost of numbering was placed at about $700.00. In board discussion there were several arguments as to the accuracy os such a nembering system. There are air photos available and Rod Fellows will have some in2rmation concerning them At the next meeting. We believe the numbering can be done be _ -ter and at a lesser expense. We voted and decided th t road signs should take priority over h house numbering. Proskine and Stevenson have made a survey of the signs needed in the town by changing the names of a few roads, boundaries of the twon and corners adjoining main high ways ( state Ro-ids 96 89) Costs qroted to us by the county road department are:- $ 9.00 ---four way signs "• 6.00 ---two way signs ?;3. 50 --- sign post. Motion made by Prookine, ,eco-ided by Whyte that:- " Town Planning Board recommend to the Town Board that it purchase signs for the Town Roads and that they set aside money for it in the budget of 1961." Voted and passed Motion made by Thomas, seconded by Proskine that: - "The town Board of Ulysses set aside $800.00 for signs and posts," Voted and passed Motionmade by Thomas and seconded by Whyte*:- "Fellows as for estimated for estimates "or a number survey." voted and passed. Next meeting Thursday, October 20th --7:30 Sharp. . . • :. • :1 i , O 0 y 0 = October 30 1960 ga C U Mr. Clifford B. Bower, Supervisor • oo Town of Ulysses . ' H co Trumansburgh, New York U b ' Dear Mr. Bower, 0 J x m ;, Attached are the necessary forms for requesting $250.00 for the expenses of the "Planning Commission of the Town of Ulysses"fot the • The "Planning 0 -ais;ion", at its mooting on September 29, unani— ii mously voted to request the Town Board to include in the 1961 Town budget, the sum of $550.00 for road signs. The County Highway Depart- ment was oentaoted, and they agreed to place all the necessary signs on County roads. On corners that are the junction of Town and County roads, they will pay one half the cost. The signs will cost $3.50 for the post, $6.00 for a 2 way sign and - $9.00 for a Ij may sign. • It was also voted to ask for enough money to erect j. ebgns on roads entering the town, to call attention to the fact that coning is in force in the Town of Ulysses. We didnot have the exact amount of these signs, but Mr. Stevenson is to have that figure for presentation on Wednesday, October 5, 1960. The Planning Board also voted to request the inclusion of $800.00 in I the Town budget for • survey, the assigning of numbers to each rest• i • denoe or future residence, on the present roads, and the preparation of • listing of residences in the Town, by roads. This price includes a set of airephotos covering the Town at either 300 feet, or 400 feet per inch, a card index of residences a card file box, and the cards to notify each resident of his official street name and number. It will be impossible for me to be at the Board Meeting Wednesday nits, but Mr. Stevenson will be there to answer any question you may have. ' • I . Very truly yours, • • R. M. Pellows Ohairman, Planning Board RNI/gl . i . • • AffitiliketbSit f ANNUAL ESTIMATE SUBMITTED BY Itabibtagthaikft PLANNING BOARD TOWN OF al FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 19-61. EXPENDITURES Office and other expenses (itemize) . Ornate & Intl° $ 50.00 • Compensation of employees (itemize) • A • . • I • TOTAL EXPENDITURES $ Moo REVENUES None i • Dated: September_, 19-62. (Signed) I/ • `�L%C�'^"r'-- (Title)d(7YJ�, .nnhii(� *A Note Zoning Commission and Board of Appeals. The Town Law (Art. 16) permits a town board to appoint a zoning commission to offer recommendations for a town zoning or- dinance and a board of appeals to hear and decide appeals from the orders of administra- tive officials charged with the enforcement of the zoning ordinance. Every town zoning commission and board of appeals must file an estimate, Planning Board. The Town Law (Art. 16) also authorizes towns to adopt official maps or plans and for such purpose to appoint a planning board. Every planning board must file an estimate." '1 S• to •r /M1U.NIB UNMAN. r.., _ Sl • ® #M October 20,1960. ` Present:— . j 1 Fellows ' Stevenson ;� ' Evans , Foster = ED ' is Announcement of date for bearing pursuant to Sect. 39 of Re: zoning ordinance . request of Maynard A. Lee for a variance of the regua lr tions or the zoning ordinance to permit trees and shr'tbery to be • ; c r, -, sold on the property ( be tion on lounte 89 --south or intersection .1 o 'o i of Willow Creek Rd and Route 89 n--d abo. t 3/1+ mile south) Hearing to 7) ° i`a be held on Nov. 11th 7:30 P?N? at the Town Of 'ice Bldg. 1 ; U , brt A Fellows has made a request to the Town Board for the sum of ad o , - ( )250.00 or office • r Trans, and Expenses) Y '. Fellows had looked into the matter oC house numbering which j will be done by air photos ( 400' / inch. It will be best to 141r.ve a map ."or the assessor and planning board. :i x Building codes mseting for Dec. 111960. Expect to have a speaker :tom Albany to explain the State Building Code. i e. Special notice will be sent to adjacent property owners who would have special interest in variance hearing of. Nov. 1111960. : ; • �� ,a Public Notice of Hearing Before the Zoning Board of Appeals Please take notice that the Zon- .C.ea.,� C. ing Board of Appeals of the Town of Ulysses, State of New York, will �laf: , &E r.i e, -8,..4() hold a public hearing pursuant to /; �� Section 39 of the Zoning Ordinance on the following propsitton• -1/),,,.. 4-c< /- Appeal No. 1 Request of Maynard A. Lee for a variance of the regulations of the L7`, c r) .Z/f-(„J Zoning Ordinance, to permit trees and planting to he sold on property, being a Variance of Article III sty, %/,I f � 1/ <Ae �J 5-,a77., tion V for property owned by him / 1 7 r' situated as follows on Lake side of _ " . Highway 89, North of Girl Scout l��4- '-'11‘7-/-1 ' I Camp at the place of the Vacant 5f a-/ ,. I,,, Diner. place ' I. thea11th of 1November,19801 at the (•,. <''f.e-r- 4 r, . •�'"�t'� "`," Town Office Building, Trumans- ,r burg, beginning at 7:30 o'clock P.M r/ �i ) n� t� • • By resolution of Board ot, Appeal) / / iJ y;.., Dated October 25, 1960. Rodman Fallow, ar • • • SMINIalISIMPINISIIIIIIIINIal . , •• .. .. . . . . .. . . , :: . 14141 2---c-ef-,--‘-• Cr / el 6 1 . ...---) •-. 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Section 5 P. 3 one parked inside residence 1 • Section 8 Outdoor storage-- no dumping. o '° '. r u `. .; Z • Section 23a bldg. floor area -- omit last sentence. 2 23a trailer camp or parks for trailer residency • • Y F Trailer camps or parks and trailers or mobile homes for . permanent occupancy shall be prhibited in all districts. One trailer may be placed on a lot in a residence or Ag. %. district for use as a temporary housing for a period not . exceeding 18 months unllss such period be extended by permission of the town board. If the town adepts separate ordinance regulating the licensing of trailer camps • --• trailers complying with such such an ordinance shall be exempted from the requirements of this section. Art. I Sect. 28 . Any building substantially destroyed by any cause and any building the roof of which is or has been taken off shall be rebuilt or demolished within one year. _ Para 5 Sect. 36 No building or structure shall be begun or extended until a .. zoning permit atkthorizing such construction shall be issued by the zoning officer and such building or structure shall be constructed or extended in accordance with the terme of of the permit. 3igns P. Art 13 No sign or advertising device to be discussed next meeting. . DiscIssion pf charge for building permit. Wes Thomas made the motion seconded by Alec Proskine that the fee now be $ 2.50 instead of $10.00 Next meeting September 14, 1961. • set. , „4„, / *( /74 , ,. . .. 11 :„; 2,-t. :..'c....“--1. 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'-i' Sa /,a f • l • ' • • • . . i o PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE OF TOWN OF ULYSSES - ® PLANNED 'DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NO. 1 WHEREAS, Section 9 of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance, provided for planned • evelopment in districts; and WHEREAS, Mr. and Mrs. Charles Lueder of R.D.1k3, Ithaca, New York, have 6 •equeated a planned development district for a seasonal campsite; and WHEREAS, the Lueder application was made to the Ulysses Town Board for M 0 o ch a district , which application was referred to the Town Planning Board; and U p cr WHEREAS , the Planning Board considered said application taking into r, 2 q r .nsideration the need of the proposed use, the existing character of the J- ighborhood and the safeguards provided to minimize possible detrimental . ffects of the proposed use to adjacent property; and WHEREAS , said application, as modified by the Planning Board, was ( •pproved and its report submitted to the Town Board; and WHEREAS , the Town Board held a public hearing on the proposed planned .evelopment district on notice; and WHEREAS, it is the opinion of the Town Board that a district be estab- ished for campsites as proposed; now therefore be it RESOLVED, That the Zoning Ordinance and Map of the Town of Ulysses be • ended to provide a "New Section 9, Subdivision a" , entitled "Planned Deve- pment District No. 1", as follows: SECTION 9-a - "Planned Development District No. 1" (1) This district shall be known as Planned Devalonmanr niatrirr u., 1 • ' • ( I • COMMENCING at a point in the southerly line of. Kraft Road , located 250 feet west of the northeast corner of premises owned by Charles Lueder and wife; thence southerly along the line parallel with the east property line of Lueder 800 feet; thence easterly 250 feet to a point in the easterly line of Lueder; thence southerly along the east line • of Lueder 400 feet to a point 100 feet south of the center line of • Willow Creek; thence in a generally eouthwecsterly direction along a line parallel to and 100 feet from the center line of Willow Creek as it twists and turns to the south line of Lueder; thence west along the south line of Lueder 350 feet tc a point; thence west along the south line of Lueder 330 feet to a point; thence northerly 875 feet to a point; thence easterly along a hedge cow and fence line 250 feat more or less to a point; . thence northeasterly 474 feat to an old hedge row; thence northerly 500 feet to a point; thence westerly 150 feet; thence northerly 300 feet to the south line of Kraft Road; thence east along the south line of Kraft Road 450 feet to the point or place of begin- ning. .Reference ie made to a map shoving said premises incorporated as a part of this amendment to the Ulysses Zoning Crdinance and made a part hereof. • (. ) SPECI:ICATICNS FOR CAMPSITES. (a) There shall not be more than 40 campsites in said district. III (b) No site shall be closer than 50 feet to any other campsite. • (c) No site shall be closer than 400 feet to the public highway. • (d) No vehicle shall he parked closer than 400 feet to the public highway for more than a t:o hour period. (e) No site shall be closer than 100 feat to the south line of Lueder. '(f) No site shall be further than 300 feat from toilet facilities. (g) The gate h ?s o shall be at least 200 feet back from Kraft Road. / (h ; - • - • ithin the district shall be at least 12 feet in _. width; properly identified and merited with necessary Warning I � I signs; at no point shall a road be closer than 100 feet to Willow Creek. 111 (b) Thera shall be no bathing in Willow Creek. • ) MAINTE??IANCE, (a) The entire district shall be kept free and clear of all • litter and .maintained in a neat and .orderly manner. • g ' • :) SIGNS. t ▪ E. . . 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The Town Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses recommends the following —o, m amendments to the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance and recommends that a r U � hearts be held by the Town Board on the proposed amendments after due notice • • Y `°_ of ten days' notification as required by Section 264 of the Town Law. 1) Article III. Section 6, Subidivision 7, to be amended to read as follows: "Gasoline, sales station, garage, for minor repairs, autombile sales, s building or lot" /r le°man '' ' 2) Article IV. Section 2, relating to Yards for Business District shall be amended to read as follows: "Business District" Front Yard 50 feet, 20 feet • • Side Yard 25 feet, X0 feet each Rear Yard 25 feet, 20 feet 3) Article II • Section 2. Districts, shall be amended as follows: "The map referred to in this section as the Zoning Map dated • March 20, 1960, shall be amended to show Business Districts with a total depth of 306 feet from the right of way line and, further, ; f to show a new Business District in the Town of Ulysses briefly I " ■ �` I . V bounded and described as follows: • line of Route 96, measured on a line perpendicular to said a right of way line; thence southeasterly and along Ache line parallel to the northeast right of way line of Route 96, a distance of approximately 1600 feet more or less to the west right of way line of Duddleston Road; thence southwesterly along the west right of way line of Duddleston Road to the point or place of beginning". • For a more particular description of said property reference. is made to proposed amendment to the Zoning Map filed with the Town Clerk. 4) Article VI . Section 32, is hereby amended to add the following words: "Section 32, JunkYards, Billboards and Automobile Sales Lots. Notwithstanding any other provisions of this ordinance, any automobile or other junk yard, any automobile sales lot, or any billboard or noncomforming sip/ or advertising device in existance in a Residence District at the time of the adoption of this ordinance shall be discontinued within two (2) years of such date. Any lot containing one or more abandoned, or partially dismantled, or non- operative motor vehicles, shall be considered a junk yard, for the purposes of this section, etc." S) Article V. shall be amended by adding a new Section 29-a as follows: "Section 29-a. Landscaping' In'Business Districts. It is the 'intent and desire of the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses that commercial establishments in Business Districts shall be landscaped • in such manner as to be attractive to the general public" 'sass( l 0 uxo a U • , • j-.a • • . . • 1 .v.jw r: 'A*,.. ', 'a 4'v!!�!MCi'`rfo-v`15 "- }1`ce3/44i ` / ,,{ ;(+ i.��a-cJ. j-- -/ % G �' .... (:...40,0-4,7,7eze . . ea, ,,c-7gre... . 7 tane711/7"-"t— i /3- a , M O 74.414---- O ELI OF in ! aw4. ea O W Al ` a—it-et .e1-1"`"'"---4--42) . . .• • U' /fq . • • • , SA f. '.Ir,,, ... . ..);:,d{c f' i ",1 rs".,^.wrLr'i %Ai`t'4':!V;riti''. ''1Pii', ,,l.. .n „ L.•:t: r.� i.b• ••t'.;,44). ti ,. ,z) r . .n „tn�•. ..+. k • gen. 211.19846 glitter. 1/tiwati Cha Inan Towa ot Ulysses TAM Tramensbniti tior. Dear IhN, DOM.; • 2t is the billet of the Planning Doer.. Taal of Calmest, flat tales* the Gerrit, Al longs have an boodiate easeretiit use tor the near Route 96 C CPI eve to asp as panel 12•3023) that they have sequeeted a shaft* in swing tree residential to business C secesnial) be tabled at this tine* This settee is taken In vies of the teat that at the present Use that is in the • assess of 10.000 ft of read treatise en Iteitte 96 that is stood eainmeelal end is vacant. • Tours truly, Town of ill.yasse Plasosing Doan. • C. Dower Gerrit% Allea Is D.W.R. (ff r. 1 ® ' s/6‘ g / 'f c= co �p w 0 in „grk 0 . f Y � ,- t - c • / ttaz, /c O O d /-4-e---14 L Q 1 % At- r v) d lb OFFICERS, NEW YORK STATE DIRECTORS, 4I\OLD STEINER Federation of Official Planning Organizations RALPH W.OA[UT HER M. BARNES • VICK 1•111.1011171 EMMETT J. ROACH JOHN J.ORI[R OEORDE E. HAYNES 112 STATE STREET • ROOM 1101 • ALBANY. N. Y. 12307 SETH A.HUSSARD 1x1cu71v1 •1C11RA11r 510 AREA TELEPHONE 4344401 JOSEPH C. REDMOND.JR. CHARLES L. CRANOLE JOSEF STEIN .. • To: Chairmen and Members of Planning Boards Zoning Boards of Appeals Officials and Interested Persons I am writing to call your attention to what I consider a great oppor- tunity for local officials, planning board members, members of zoning boards of appeals, and persons interested in the planning and zoning pro- cess. This year's Annual Planning Institute, sponsored by the Federation under the theme of "Planning for Modern Living", encompasses a look • ahead for "our town" and "our area" as well as an appraisal of accomplish- ments on the local scene. Future town forms, transportation, utility services, airport ap- • / proaches, junk yards, and area controls are matters of current interest and future concern to all of us. Increasingly, we are faced with the con- sideration of providing open space and parks. What some communities and areas have done in putting plans into use should be of great interest and, perhaps, spark the generation of new solutions for our own commun- ides. The program notes a Buffet Dinner on Sunday, October 17, at 6:00 P. M. In connection with this, we will have to guarantee the number to be served. So that we may ensure proper service for all, we ask that you reg- ister in advance and indicate, particularly, if you plan on joining us for the Buffet Dinner on Sunday evening. I hope that you will try to make the Annual Planning Institute, October 17-19, at the Parkway Inn, Niagara Falls, yourself, but at any rate that your board will be represented. Many boards are finding it profitable to have more than one member in attendance so that they may split up to attend the four concurrent workshops. Charles L. Crangle Executive Secretary ,j 1. let ® NEW YORK STATE FEDERATION OF OFFICIAL PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS ANNUAL PLANNING INSTITUTE October 17-18-19, .1965 Hotel Reservations should be made to the Parkway Inn, 401 Buffalo Avenue, Niagara Falls, New York 14302, by October 1, 1965. • J Rooms are: c ° Single Room with bath $10. 00 per person per day aDouble Occupancy with bath $8. 00 per person per day Name Arrival Date AM/PM 2 ca E Address Arrival Date AM/PM No. of Persons Reservations held until 5 P. M. Deposit of one nights room rent is required to hold a room for late arrival. Deposit for late arrival enclosed $ • J Advance registration is requested and should be sent to Charles L. Crangle, Executive Secretary, Room 1101, 112 State Street, Albany, New York, 12207. This part of form is for your use for registration. Registration costs are: Name NYSFOPO Address Member $10.00 Non-member $15. 00 Municipality Planning Board 17 Board of Appeals ]T Other 77 I (do) (do not) plan to attend the Buffet Dinner, October 17, at 6:00 P. M. I will be accompanied by person(s). tsv''` 9 ' BRUCE 0. DEAN ;.. ATTORNEY AT LAW • .AVINO•BANK .UILDINO ITHACA. N. Y. 14•8O AREA coot 007 TLL[PHONK 07.•...• December C, 1�VV � Town Board / Town of Ulysses Elm Street • Trumansburg,. N. Y. 14886 • • • Ma presses of William P. Bfln, i, NYy,C�.r�(fy fitly rig 7s Town oP Vlysses, situatad between Saw State Route 96 and Halsey- v e Creek Road -Area r„,�{wximat�ely 5.16 Auras _ • Gentlesen3 • ram attorney fors o William P. Ryan, who. at the present time, is out of the County. I am writing this at his West with respect to his .• • letter to the'Board date of October 11, 1966, in which he Takes ap�lieation to hate the above p Asmises zoned from Residence' to Ccimaoroial". The premises are situated across from the B al L Motors and fir. Ryan understands that the area is essentially commercial property. I believe Pro Willies Ruble, an a4Jolning landowner, also favors soaing of the area as commercial property. Will you please advise any further infor- mation which you aassyy quire at this time for favorable• eoesideratioa reof the application of Mr. Ryan? Yours truly, • Brave G. Dean BGD1 n tee *'Ra n Plle , • . . .. .. . •> . ...�4+.J " 1LI c.'w 'n. aa. .. `-)i{ [A`i�1J n..Si 'LIAi1t1CUUj.Illu' tit! r' January 9, 1967 • • To The Town Board, �+ g • The Ulysses Board of Zoning Appeals held a hearing Jnnunry 9th to consider the request for a variance to allow a Edmund Hurd to construct a dog kennel in a non commercial zone. In the discussion it nnnrnrs that this nren and surrounding • e o properties should he changed from residential to commercial o zoning. C, G d Therefore, we recommend that this Ulysses Planning Board 2 b :' take this under immediate consideration and make their recom- Y ." mendation to the Town Board• so that a Public Hearing can be held, It is /leo recommenddd that the Bill Ryan and Bill Zublo application for a change in zoning also be acted upon immediately. Ulysses Board of Zoning Appeals ;! Paul S. Foster, Chairman • • • • PSF:MPM . 7-'Yi e. •(;k4A- rut,. tCa�u.�tC> l lJ W�L 9^4vv' ' • L� r..8 , £, 44- (Nast `iet1t. fh.4c. a4L , Media 1 . r�rrd c�I.c � ` • • • • CAROLINE CLIFFORD E, BOWER ELSIE D. DOYD ROBERT I. WILLIAMSON CITY OP ITHACA RALPH D.Putua Chain/au 0.4 Aunty Waterville Springs,N.Y. FIRST WARD DANDY or 7, • JAMn R.GRAM 616 W. State St. J,wn II.Co*TawHT SS Hilieiew Rd. $ .r.ar 0� i DRYDmN Spencer, N.Y. 6,4%...i ri rtili SECOND WARD :i THOMAS L.Tao !nettle,R.D.3 .s •r e•!; r 'G MICHAEL J.Limn 577 N. Albany St. Cuu Urmea FTrumansburg.A.D. I BOAR ' O �` �, E 71. a ISORS THOMAS 1.GRFFIIN 3115 S. Meadow St. I GROTON 7 ,. C A"n W. HOLDEN Grown, R.D. 1 * FOURTH WARD y" ITHACA ♦ ' Al r * Eowatn P. Assort 903 N.Cayuga St. WM.B.Km . 317 Cayuga Heights Rd. • .1;43 •Il• FIFTH WARD ' LANSING M * * * 4 WILLIAM P.SULLIVAN..617 N. Aurora St. HAaus B. Duns ..._.LUdloweBle,R. D. t • NEWFIELD SIXTH WARD WILLIAM M. OsTnANnaa....77 MaIn Street DONALD J. CULLIGAN 627 Hudson St. Newfield,N.Y. Court House, Ithaca, N. Y. 14850 SEVENTH WARD ULYSSES ammo E.Down Trumansburg,R.D.1 Phone: Area Coda 607 AR 3-2080 Mu. Haan Hoana .113 Brandon Place January 12,1967 Mr. Rodman Fellows, Chairman Ulysses Planning Board . R.D. #43 Ithaca, New York 14850 • Dear Rod: , As you can see from the enclosed request, the Board of Appeals and the Town Board are faced with several requests for either variences or changes in our Zoning Ordinance. c These requests have been pending for some time and I am sure both Boards would appreciate your Board's opinion and recom- . mendations about them. . It seems imperative that you call a Planning Board meeting very soon inasmuch as the Appeals Board has reserved decision on these requests and hesitate to render a decision without the • Planning Board's opinion and recommendation. I am sure that if you were to invite Mrs. Arlee Robinson,Zoning Officer, and Paul Foster, Chairman of the Appeals Board, they could give you much pertinent information. Sincerely, CLIFFORD E. BOWER, . cc: Supervisor, Town of Ulysses Alec Proskine Gerald Ehrhart • Dorothy Evans Stanley Koskinen David Langley 0 — . , . i . .. . .• . ish . . . ;finnan pis1967. . Town Board of Ulysses S.S . . gE , Trumansburg * N.Y. 14886 .. .- i.i . The Planning Bbard of the Town Of Ulysses met on the , tz, a a evening of January 26, 1967. „., N. 2 244 piton $ The motion was made by Koskinen and seconded by Langley thin " the William 34, Auble property be considered . • _ for commercial property by the Town Board*" t . . • Ill Motion 12. The motion made by Koskinen and seconded by Evans _ :LT that 'the William P. Ryan Property- be considered for commercial ... . . , -,...: soning by the Town Board*" •-- -.-•,:. . • Very respectfully yOur* ; . Secretary* 1 . „ • . ... „ . • " • , . . . • . . . . . , • . • •,_- .... , • ...,,,, lc\ . , . ] " • . . . . • . . . . . . • . 1l • tdsa-f-c- c-7-- a 6. / " ? a .. "-- -., //" "0C---+-t----. ---C� __ _.--iL—C_ 3-Y. 1__:� O—r�cJ ;CC- L_4___ • • � G y G-1 r T/;Z:(-- 7�C—ac — L „ � � � -/ c o— -L A � . _l,_,�_ tJ � .. _�_ -1 -Limit--.-. _/ L_r� ` _ !-;__t_. „ � 7--- 41*c1--' / , --IC"' C--4-7-4--e---ilet.--t-c_ti in . - / v /J / .tea- L'r�-�C_ e. . 7 •) /L._. cc:,tir✓ -2-7L.r---:�'-� /C_cy /`--t�.i�. . A. `�1 �L-0.+t .. —K� �(_�' !"'��. Sr�Y 'l'-0---4.4..t.7:2A---'01-.74--(.....-t--y d-c____ e..,_ . , C.-1) f_, „La__ / ,-`-::7_, ,ru C.t._,, . —It.,4--1.--e-7- - ----ti III 7/ )6•1•C.,-.4{..,Z7 413 Art--Ca-C-/C..ty s G/ 7 .. . D p , /gyp /' /� �( :Cl L1-.�� i�j ac-c a CAL yl -Lre 1 . UQ Ct' // cam. �� -• . it i A../L...,,__ _. a?tto_t,L., ,a4__±..Ct-/Q...-C.A.-, #C.---Ar PI i C CJ ✓ / Do / / CJ = Ou .2 L✓ : b t - Y /7 Ca, r grantruz r- rg-x, 2<tat,i, , 2 44.,:a/ add-ca' im r 0-__o_t_o_e_..4„ z ca_e_______c_ • • • �r.' April -19,4 . • Tom Board of Ulysses Trumanebarf# if.T. 14886. Dear Sims . Committal an request of B. A. Bard and • byes Bsld, Cold Springs Road, Trumaneburg0 N.T. • ' The planning beard believes that the planned development district should be planned in its entirety and enters • with the present Boning ordinance. This would require 20,000 sq. ft. and 100 ft. width house lot and %06 sq. ft. for each trailer with. % ft. frontage. Driveway suitably -5 graded and surfaced and not less than 36 ft. vide plus other • • requirements under Section 10 design of trailer parks and the trailer park ordinannr. Consideringg the above and the mixiimum average requirement of three acres vs cannot approve the request. This was an unanimous vote of the . Planning Hoard. • • Very truly yams, • • Planning Board of the Test of tilyeses. Seeretasp. All April 18,1967. Planning Board Meeting at Town Hall, Trumansburg N.Y. Present A. Proskine R. Remley D. Langley J. Erhart . D. Evans. Town Board had asked us to review the request of E.A.Hurd and .' gg g E . Joyce Hurd of Cold Springs Rd. , Trumansburg, N.Y. After discussion a the motion was made by Ehrhart and Seconded by Langly that we not c If ° o grant the request for the planned development district. The following -, c CI ° letter to be directed to the Town Board of Ulysses. ' Y # Concerning the request of E. A. Hurd and Joyce Hurd , Cold Springs Rd. Trumansburg, N.Y. The Planning Board believes the planned develop- - . ment district should be planned in its enterity and conform with the present zoning ordinance. This would require 20,000 sql ft, and 100 411 . foot width, for house lot and 5Q9000sq, ft. for each trailer with 50 . ft. frontage. Driveway suitably graded and surfaced and not less than 36 ft. wide plus other requirements onder section 10 design of trailer . parks and the trailer park ordinance. Considering the above and the . minimum acerage requitement of three acres we cannot approve this request. This was the unanimous vote of the planning board." Motion made by Ehrhart seconded by Langle -- 5 ayes. Mr. Proskine told of the worke accomplished on the marking of houses in the Town of Ulysses. We hope the fire department will take part in this work. It was found there were several road unamed o4 the offical map. Motion made by Langley and seconded by Ehrhart that Roads unamed on the 1960 offical map of the Town of Ulysses having ( been named for numbering purposes in March 1967 shall be accepted ' as the offical names of these roads as shown on the map in the Town office building. Page 2 April 18,1967 Planning Board r Town of IIylsses. ® ' Mayo Road--- part of the old Trumansburg- Mecklenburg Road. Parke Avenue---- Between Route 96 and Jacksonville Rd. in Jacksonville. • Manse Road--- Jacksonville vlle�between Route 96 and • Proskihe Place---- off Taughannock Park Rd. near Route 96. Vote 5 Ayes. fi 111 yn • Uri j . WIGGINS, TSAPIS AND GOLDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELORS AT LAW • WALTER J.WIOOINS 300 NORTH TIOGA STREET T[L[PHONC STANLEY T/MIS ITHACA, N. Y. 14631 AREA COO[ a071 ., ARTHUR J.OOLDER.JR. ITHACA AR 3.2040 LAURA H.HOLMUERO February 14, 1967 TRUMANSEURO 557.0301 DAVID L OEREH MATTHEW r.MOHUGH g Town Board en Town of Ulysses o Trumansburg, New York N Re: Application Pursuant to Section 9 of • 2 T Zoning Ordinance of Town of Ulysses Dear Sirs: On behalf of our client, Edmund Hurd, we hereby make application that certain property owned by him be approved as a Planned Development District pursuant to Section 9 of Article II • of the Town's Zoning Ordinance. ` The land in question is approximately 4 1/2 acres • located on Cold Springs Road in the Town of Ulysses, County of Tompkins, State of New York. There is presently located on the premises a trailer park and, if this application is approved, Mr. Hurd would like to add a dog kennel. This letter will be presented to you this evening by • Mr. Hurd personally, who will explain in greater detail his proposed use of the property. We are of course prepared to present to you or the members of the Planning Board, as the case may be, any additional • information as may be required. Thanking you for your consideration in this matter, I am Very truly yours, WI . INS, TSAPIS & GOLDER falter- • L 0 1 • �«.T r ., • March 1, 1967 1 •4• r•: Mr. Cliff Bower . Supervisor, Town of Ulysses �.f Ulysses Town Hall !, Elm Street ; ' Trumansburg, New York 5 1' Dear Mr. Bower, . . I :, It is with regret that I tender my resignation from the ,.j; Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses effective March 1, 1967. The Town has been suffering from my inability to function pro- y;: • perly as a board member and as chairman. This move should .• have been made some time ago but because of my interest in -: Town planning,• from its inception, I •have found this decision difficult to make. I thank you, the Town Board, the Zoning Office and the members ' of the Planning Board for their understanding. It has been pleasant working with you. Very truly yours, K ✓ ', Al/. e I, te. R. M. Fellows • RMF:cr cc: Mrs. Dorothy Evans Mrs. Arlene Robinson ' 1 ,,i ; • 1 . • 1 . Copied from the minutes of the Planning Hoard of the 'ton of Ulysses ® General provisions under Article 5 section 23 August 10s1960. " Per the purpose of this ordinance a mobile house trailer whether • on wheels or otherwise supported shall not be considered a dwelling or any part of a dwellings Mobilo houses are permitted only in a R g trailer park duly licensed by the Town Board." J = " Summer houses, cottages and comps containing less than 750 o m square feet may be constructed only on special approval of the o at Board of Appeals." 5 b t • ~ Changes suggested by Attorney moan reported by • Fellows Article 1 no 11 omit the word feeble minded and change+ word liquor to alcholic. Section i• article 8 omit the word opill:.Cdtic \ Sections Pere, 3 one parked outside residence Section 8 Outdoor storage no dumping Section 23 a Building floor areas► omit last sentence i 23a trailer camps or parka for trailer residenoycTrailer j t camps or parks-- and trailer or mobile homes for • permanot occupancy shall be prohibited in all districts. One trailer may be placed on a lot in a residence or agricultural district for use as temporary housing for a period not exceeding 18 months unless such period be extended by permission of the rose Board. If the twos adopts separate ordinance regulating the licensing of trailer camps trailers complying with such an ordinance shall be exempted from the requirements of this section. • Article 5 Section 28 Any building substaneially destroyed by any cause and any building the roof of which is ar has beats taken Page 2 Copied from the minutes of the Planning Board, Torn of Ulysses. ' off shell be rebuilt or demolished within ono year.01 Para 5 section 36 " No building or structure shall be begun or extended until a zoning permit authorising such construction shall be issudd by the coning officer and such building or structure shall be constructed or extended in accordance with the terms of the permits" eci,•. CAROLINE CLIFFORD E. BOWER EISIR D. BOYD ROBERT I. WILLIAMSON CITY OF ITHACA gt RALPH D.Tutu. Ch.inv. Clerk Anon, {, ' • SlatenlIle Springs, N. Y. 1 FIRST WARD . DANDY I' f,`, JAMla R.Guru .. . . 614 W. State St. ' JAMS H.Coinsure . . U Hifl.lew Rd. e,•.. 1t N ' DRYDEN Spencer, N.Y. • ' •. , E. A SECOND WARD THOMAS L.Tay freewill., R.D. 2 ' •'� �, •• Mrnu c.1. LUNY 325 N. Albany St.• ENFIELD BOARD-OF, SUPER 'ISORS TIreRD WARD 0.AU UPntg. .. Trum+mhuq, R. D. I Mown J.GIIntN !I! S. Meadow Sr. GROTON !:LAUDE W. HOLDIN .... Groton, R. D. t y.. ,.., _ FOURTH WARD I77{AG EDWARD P. Anon . 903 N.Cayuga Sr. 1. ' B.KM ..LANSING Cayuga Heights Rd. kmpkin Cairn ain FIFTH WARD .._ Ham D. DAna Ludlow.illt, R. D. I WILLIAM P.SULLIVAN X17 N. Aurae St. NEWFIELD •~.�"•'i� SIXTH WARD WILLIAM M. OSTIANDII. 77 Main Street DONALD J. Cm LIlAN 627 Hudson St. Newfield, N.Y. Court House, Ithaca, N. Y. 14850 SEVENTH WARD ULYSSES airman E. Bowen Trumambmg.R.D. I Phone: Area Code 607 AR 3-2080 atm Ilazo Hnlru U! Brandon Place = 0 January 12,1967 J = d • Co 0 2 O — m • u Mr. Rodman Fellows, Chairman °; Ulysses Planning Board . • 2 b R.D. #3 • • SC 1- Ithaca, New York 14850 Dear Rod: As you can see from the enclosed request , the Board of Appeals and the Town Board are faced with several requests for either variences or changes in our Zoning Ordinance. ® These requests have been pending for some time and I am sure 'CV both Boards would appreciate your Board 's opinion and recom- mendations about them. It seems imperative that you call a Planning Board meeting very soon inasmuch as the Appeals Board has reserved decision on 11 these requests and hesitate to render a decision without the ! Planning Board's opinion and recommendation. I am sure that : if you were to invite Mrs. Arlee Robinson,Zoning Officer, and Paul Foster, Chairman of the Appeals Board, they could give you much pertinent information. Sincerely, CLIFFORD E. BOWER, cc: Supervisor, Town of Ulysses Alec Proskine Gerald Ehrhart . Dorothy Evans 4 Stanley Koskinen vid Iatey liwdCl'l. . • • . Deember 10,1967. Town Board of the Town of UlysSIS Trumanshu■gi N.Y. 14886 ( dentlements • At the request of the zoning officer regarding a junk yard on the 11113. BIS property. Afe,mse maandmemity spistarad to the establishment of a junk yard on this property. Our objections are based on section leo of the zoning ordinance in that there is no need for such use and that itswill not contribute to the convierumuse and prosperity of the community and the neighboring versa!" and property vouldf be adversely affected." Furthermore we ma that this case should be handled the same as other violations of this ordinance in the Town of Ulysses. f•• Respectively submitted by the Planing Beard. • /- „ . 111 fit V' LIcyssel• '7'0 4✓.✓ 7x,44,7 �C.'4114/4 se...) .4' 6 n/, Y, 975-161 . en 0 7Ht 744 N1 1.✓6 U 'a or id 4Y .:%ers AI€ 7" ' 2N 19Y �kF �OwN OF.e''ad YF .. Sear, 3, /t al . )` 4r 8 ; ao P. Apt . re Ce .✓ r/O�e 1 9 i 4 Art teATra .y BY ')1 +S . 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Agard had brought - - information to February Town Board Meeting. Explained some of the . critisims of the new route in regard to travel for vehichles especially in regard to fire department aid. Tho following night he had attended a meeting at the Glenwood Pines at a meeting of the West Shore Civic Association, Arlee Robinson asked questions on zoning ordinance and suggested changes. • 1. Building permits do not include swimming pools and their location in relation to lot lines. ?. Certificate of occupancy never carried out and there are no forms. 3. Number of road signs to be allowed on lot. . non conforming uses-- should trailer be sold can same trailer be left on site and rented ? 5. Storage on or near highways that could produce hazard -- present does not cover storage of junk, lumber, boxes etc. 6. Multiple dwellings and their parking space allotment, Mr. Bower told Mrs. Robinson to take these to county attorney Williamson for consultation ns to how these items may be placed in ordinance. . Gerald Ehrhart appointed chairman of the Planning Board. Discussed . recruitment of new members to board . Mrs Sidney Rocker of Maplewood imd Robert Herrick of Trumansburg recommended. Bud Golder to unite to all members of the Planning Board to meet and bring comments and suggestions in regards to Route 96. Meeting adjounned, } C! X.^).0 L- c ' . .. . .. .. '• - mil ' f, i. PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SECTION 92 OF THE TOWN ;Th., ''. , OF ULYSSES , ZONING ORDINANCE, JUNKYARDS, BILLBOARDS, ''./ AND ALL AUTOMOBILE SALES LOTS . -/ a/� A.19L �4 Section 32 - Junkyards , B --..... _._ __._.. - . , • _ _ _ ___ • Notwithstanding any of the provisions of this Ordinance , any 6 • automobile, or other junkyards , including Iooggn area use or t e, ;' ny� storage of scrap metal, paper, rags , gla'Y`S"'`j d c a Tetove7 r. diattztwassieRmottred, Any lot or area containing one or more y' abandoned Motor vehicles shall be considered a junkyard for the purposes of this section. However, the Board of Appeals may grant special F •• • approval for the continuation of such uses subject to the limitations of Section 40. It ' Proposed Amendment to Section 38. Section 38 to be amended as U. follows: f. Building Permit - No principal building or accessory building, nor any other structure, including but not limiting same to tanks, power and pump stations , swimming pools, and signs , in any district , shall f be begun or enlarged without a building permit issued by the person • i' designated by the Town Board. . Every application for a building permit shall state in writing '• V the intended use of the building and shall be accompanied by a plot r . plan and all dimenaionsjnhown indicating the size and shape of the lot, , :' and the buildings to be located thereon . Every application for a building permit :hall be accompanied by - a fee of 92 .50 . . •t e.o-„ 'i-----rye- - „ .? ,e r-c- (12.---6,40___ are•--1-e-n-40-cr->---..---- e �j�q clot e�� %/ 6.11' Z' 49/ 9-`44 kox.: 5, ,/ B � •(Aga aitivi7,'l a; G4-UG'O so Gtt Gl_c(,G<. d" a /SGaeta a .l.L • "_"La'" ao. - t.Lc ii') s 1 4.2.-Zei. tC'L-i a�. eta cal 6-i ,?c O T 91 October 21, 1968 ® , Meeting of the Ulysses Planning Board held at Town Office in T'burg )tenant : Der. Baines, Langley, Erhardt, Rice , Remeley, Mrs. Robinson, Mrs . Rocker. • Mr. and Mrs. Mayo were present and discussed their plans for a trailer park on T'burg-Perry State Highway 227, in a 9 acre plot which they own. The Board of Health has already checked the soil and water and ' °t given an approval. Normally a request of this type is given to the • i E Town Board and then is given to the Planning Board. It was decided that it would be all right for the Planning Board to hear the plans first, and then advise. • co a ' A motwion was made by Mr. Lagiey, seconded by Mr. Remeley that Mr. 55 and Mrs. Mayo present a planned sketch with the application, meeting O g all specifications under section 10 of the Trailer Park ordinance . • f % That there should be in this plan proposed use of the land, present Fe and future development on additional acreage which the Mayo 's own. . .. Roads, playground, shrubbery, facilities, etc. and also some assurance that neighbors arc not going to object. Mr. Rice felt that the Planning Board should check the zoning ordinance .• with a fine toothed comb and out some teeth into it. • Mrs. Robinson asked what she could do in a residential area, where land owners accumulate bath tubs , scrap metal, paper, glass, etc. in • their yards. After much discussion on whether this would constitute a violation of the Zoning ordinance because they were operating a junk yard, a motion was made by Mr. Baines and seconded by Mr. Langley that Section 32, Article 6 of the present zoning ordinance would read as follows; iteape illy submitt 7 Gertrude Rocker • • . a .. • • • January 27 , 1969 , Meeti 'g of Planning Board of Town of Ulysses Present: Robinson, Rocker, Proskine, Erhardt, Langley, Kosknen and Attorney Robert Williamson Discussion of a lengthy nature took place concerning: 1. Section 32 of the zoni g ordinance concerning junk yards and debris in a residential area. • 2. Billboards and signs in a commercial and residential area. Revision of the present zoning ordinance to be done by Bob Williamson where it concerns the above problems. Motion made and voted unanimously that the planning board send a letter of resolution to the following people : Connie Cook - Assemblywoman Ted Day - Senator, Interlaken E.L. Tolson - District Engineer, Dept. of Sanitation, Syracuse Resolution attached: Respectfully submitted, 9b2/74-4.4. /15/2,27,67 • Gertrude Rocker 4 Va. 24, 1969 ` : ® Meeting of the 1'lnnning Hoard, Town of Ulysses Present : i'ronkinn , Robinson, Erhardt, Barnes, Kosken, Langley, Rine , uerten and Rocker. • Dincnnnion nn to whether the changes in the proposed zoning amendments meet the need of the zoning officer. Mrs. Robinson agreed that they do. 1 E I)inr.unai.on on nignn - size. (not h gher than 5 f*eet), distance between, also that they be limited to local businesses ONLY. m Dincunsion on Lot sizes : Town requires 100 x 150 _ 0 Hoard of Health requires 150 x 250 s• C Our ordinance must be changed. •D ai E A Notion made by Barnes and seconded by Langley that we adopt the . au Y F proposed amendments to the zoning ordinance. Discussion on parking for multiple housing: . It wan suggested by Mr. Rocker, Cornell Housing Inspector, that the • • Planning Hoard obtain n copy of the Mitchel Law, as a guide for a multiple housing law. Then our zoning requirements for the Town of Ulysuen can be added, which will take care of parking. Discussion took place concerning Bell Station. ' Respectfully submitted, 4)/4.- -le_Gertrude Rocker �' `�" • .• • No March 1969 Meeting of Ulysses Town Planning Board held at Town office in T'burg. Members and guests present: 1•fr. Potter, Donovan, Foster, Rice, Moynes, Bower, Williamson, Proskine, Erhardt, Wertes and Mrs. Robinson and Mrs. Rocker • • A letter was read by Erhardt concerning a trailer park - 150 trailers • on 30 acres subtracting road, playgrounds. They were asking the village to put in water and sewer, which would run $50,000 to $80.000. Williamson discussed location of Mobile Homes and concurred that the ordinance allows them only trailer parks. • Assessment on trailers : They are taxed at 20% of their true value, while homes are assessed at 80%, yet cost mlie school system the same. • The same applies to police protection and snow removal. John Moynes discussed a planned development for Babcock Research Lab. , and that it never be turned into%a hatchery or turned commercial, but rather should be used as a showplace for research. Mrs. Rocker said farmers were complaining about not being able to comply with zoning because it was necessary to leave farm equipment in front yards. Respectfully submitted, • G trude rude Rocker II/ • tot June 2, 1970 . Meeti.:g of the Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses. Present: Gorman, Proskine, Erhardt, Robinson, Rocker and Alfred Hissing, project engineer for Babcock Hatcheries. Discussion took place as to size of building addition proposed at Babcock. It will be a Research Lab. on the planned Dist. No. II a a, located in Jacksonville , N. Y. Lot size 72 x 32 feet. The Board unanimously approved this. The motion was made by Proskine and 'o sconded by Erhardt. •= el Alex also moved that each trailer park shall be subdivided and . 'o o marked off into house trailer spaces which shall be at least a100 x 200 feet in dimensions. Seconded by Rocker and passed. CI e . g1 A copy of the above resolutions will be sent to Alice Conover to 2 .2 be presented to the Village Board June 9, 1970. Respectfully submitted, •- //'icy . Gertrude Rocker • ® l 1 lAb .: c . . . . .. __.. . .... . .. . . . .. .... . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . August 24, 1970 Meeting of Planning Board of Town of Ulysses convened at the Town Hall • on August 24th at 7 :00 n.m. III • Present : Erhardt, Rice, Langley, Robinson, Barnes , Koslcen, Proslcine , Rocker and Fir. Auble. This was a SPECIAL MEETING, called to review the proposed trailer park to be built by Auble north of T'burg. To review the events leading up to this meeting: • On June 2nd, 1970 the Planning Board was unanimous in sending a resolution to the Town Board that trailer lot sizes be increased from 50 :c 100 to 100 x 200 feet. The thought being that since water and sewer are available to a developer, in 25 years this area could be used for homes instead of trailers. The Town Board tabled this resolution. Their thoughts were that the size was too large and would discourage a developer. On July 7 , 1971 Fir. Auble applied for a license to build 39 trailer sites on 50 x 100 lots divided by a 36 foot road. The Town Board referred him bhcic to the Planning Board for any recommendations. Since the present zoning ordinance , written in 1960, clearly states that lots shall be 50 x 100, Fir. Auble felt that he was within his rights. After much discussion, Rocker brought information about the 1•:aplehurst Trailer Park in Horesheads . It is a beautiful park. She went into detail about the physical set-up, and that the owner of that park stressed that since trailers are being built longer the lot sizes should be no less than 70 x 100. Since it was too late to change the zoning, Mr. Auble was given the sign to go ahead. A motion was made and seconded that Mr. Auble 's application was covered by zoning for lot size. i•,r. ruble was then questi ned as to the trailer park itself. He assured the committee that : 1. There would be adequate drainage. He would have the best system of elminating water, since this in the nature of his business. 2. That each trailer would have its own washer and dryer. 3. That he tsar, having underground electric concb.iits installed. 4. That a name plate would be on the light post in front of each trailer. 5. That grass would be taken care of by tenant. That if not, then would would tend to it. 6. That a skirt would be mandatory around each trailer 7 . That shrubs and trees were to be planted down the sides, across the back and down the other side , with trees on either side of the entrance. The Board told hi:'i that if he started Phase II it woelcl have to be on larger lots. He agreed to thin. Trailer licenses are renewed every year and it was pointed oet that if there are variances of the above, or complaints from within or outside, that a trailer license does not have to be renewed. - , . • Nov. 16, 1970 Meeting of Planning Board - Nov. 16, 1970 Present: Kosken, Langley, Rice, Erhardt, Rocker. Motion was made by Er. Langley and seconded by Rice that the Planning Board approve the following Amendment to Article 5, Section 23. Notice : Please talce notice that a public hearing by the Town Board of Ulysses a will be held in the Town Hall the day of 1970 at o 'clock in the evening thereof to consider the following amendment to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses : . c••o Article V, Section 23 shall be amended to eliminate therefrom the following sentence : a "For the purpose of this ordinance, a mobile house trailer, whether X g on wheels or otherwise supported, shall not be considered a • °,fig dwelling or any part of a dwelling. Mobile homes are permitted only in trailer parks duly licensed by the Town Board." And in its place and stead shall be the following language : "Mobile house trailers and homes, whether on wheels or otherwise supported, shall be permitted only in trailer parks duly licensed by the Town Board in accordance with the provisions of the A discussion took place by Jim Rice on the functions of the Planning Board. Respectfully submitted, ertrude Rocker • • March 19 , 1970 i;eeting of Ulysses Planning Board held at To��n Office in T'burg. Present: Mr. Baines, Proskin, Rice , Erhardt, Gorman, Kostinen and Mrs. Rocker. Hr. Erhardt brought the meeti g to order with a discussion of the new proposed Routes 13 and 96. A letter had been received from Mr. Tolson informing the Board of the projected plans for the high- way, offering two alternate plans and asking the Planning Board to send back, before the end of March 1970, any ideas we might have. i,r. Rice suggested we contact Mr. Liguori, County Planner, to find . out his thoughts on the proposed highway plan. • , However, in order to get some word back to Mr. Tolson before March 30th, and since it was strongly felt by the Planning Board that routing a ' major highway right through Trumansburg would not be beneficial to Trumansburg, the following resolution was drawn and passed unanimously: From the standpoint of safety, the Planning Board of the Town of • Ulysses stro&y feels that arterial highway traffic should not be . . funnelled into the village of Trumansburg, in the interest of a better environment for the residents of the village. Furthermore , the . Planning Board is in favor of alternate Route 1t2, and that it be given primary consideration. .. We request a more detailed net of plans before we can make further ® ' recommendations. One copy of the above sent to State Engineer i'ir. Tolson, and a dis- cussion to be entered into with Mr. Liguori, County Planner. t•.r. Rice discussed the enlarging of the water and sewer districts in Trumansburg, in order to get more building of residential homes. Individual sewer systems and sand filters are not the answer. A sewer district would be a step for the future. Rocker: Discussion concerning smell from chicken farm, permeating . lake properties and Perry City Road residences. Mr. Rick explained that : 1. Legal steps will probably be taken in about 5 years to eliminate this as a public nuisance. - 2. Research constantly is trying to combat this. 3. Atmospheric pressure determines whether we get the odor or not. We were not able to come to any definite solution at this time. Res tfully submitted, 47 e% sue G ill ertrude tcocker I 804 Mitchell Street Ithaca, New York 111850 August 28, 1969 . _ Mrs. Alice Conover . i E • Town of Ulysses Clerk Tramensburg, New York m • o ° . Dear Ws. Conover: 0 y m . ti c As your records will show, I own a cottage just north of the O a Glenwood Apartments on the Maplewood Road in the Town of Ulysses. Y i I have heard rumors that Mr. Indelicate, the owner of the above apartment house is planning to build further apartments on land recently purchased from Mrs. Dorothy Evans„„,�__bounded by Maplewood Road, Perry City Roed and New York State Route #a9. Several residents in this area are concerned about any further multiple dwellings in this small area and wish to oppose any such request that mi&zt come before the Town Zoning Board. We would like, therefore, to be informed if env such request is submitted so we can appear before the Zoning Board and enter our objections. In this connection we request that you send to the above address i a cow of the Town of Ulysses Zoning Regulations, a map of the area involved showing zoning coda and a copy of the toning code eaplane- tion. Any reasonable charge for this service will be remitted proMetl4. • Sincerely yours, . etc.42,y=c Robert E. Terwillegar act Jerry Yhrhart ' I i • ( l;- • • 10(p • I have purchased 30 acres in Town of Ulysses between pennsylvani Road and. South Street and request permisseen to construct a mobile home park according to submitted plans, My intentions are to rent lots with restrictions until the park is completed,then rent or sell lets to tenants that may want to buy with the same restrictions. Lot sizes will be 50xI00,75 x I00,and I00 xI00.This park will be one of the nicevt,if not the nicest park in the State. It will be on the idea ofMaplehuast Park in Horseheads,N.Y. People have asked me ,why not build houses or apartments?Good houses are beyond the reach of many young couples starting out and Senior Cetizens on fixed incomes.Apartments are the last resort for most people who can't afford anything else,With mobile homes people can live with dignity in Country Club style and build equity in the meantime for i3arger conventional homes or other life 's desires, Richard Hill of the State Division off Rousting and Community Renewal says that communities ought to encourage the reasonable r development of mobile homes subdivisions which builders have watched for years with horror andfascination.Mr Hill alsosaid bankers have said for most families it is hard to buy the first house today without help from a rich uncle.The rich uncle isgoingmore and more to be Uncle Sam,he predicted. Buildeit s magazines for quite some time have been trying to persuade contractors to build mobile home parks to help the people to get a better park due to knowledge of trades,construction and land- . soaping. Overwhelming needs of individuals and families for shelter in the next few years will see more contractors constructingparks, I feel due to prices of homes,high mortgage rates and scarcity of mortgages. (^r If this should happen i think there would be many more nice parks built and competition would force all parks to continual improvement even without regulations. ' 11111 Federal, State and localco m nities are all betting into the • business of housing that I feel is all wrong.This typeof housingruns • down cities and neighborhoods and takes money out of ail our pocket- books through relief and subsidies.Why not give people something of their own that they can afford to keep nice and take pride in?I think builders and contractors could and can do the fob if given the rte. . opportunity with the help of good zoningregulations but not denials. I want this area because its a nice residential area where • anyone would be proud to call their home.My intentions are to raise co °-, a property values in the area on existing homes. ,;, 0 g • It should be in the interest of everyone to see thatlivable A go- - communitiesare constructed and if there are not enough regulations more should be added but construction should not be forbidden unless • it can not meet reasonable regulations. I genuinely feel I will help the community with better housing as well as increasing tax value in • the Town and Village.This park will also help keep some residents from moving away and bring in many new residents who would help in every way; It is net my intention to make anyone think that I would be doing this just for the good of the community.I would intend to make money on thisventure.To make money this project would have to b • be very desirable to the mostdiscreate people so they wi ;ll want to make their home in this park permanent. Thank you. July 21,1c69. •, -• •- George W.Thomas. III August 1I. I969 10$ To The TAwn Board Of Ulysses . -, There is a least one point on which both thepropOnents and the opponents of a Trailer Park in the Pennsylvania-South St. ,extebsion area agree-that the location is a fine residential area. In view of this the Town and the Village should plan its development carefully. • If the Village decides to extend the necessary water and sewerage facilities to this area for the development,would it not be best to thoroughly explore,through consultation with local building and bank officials,the development of a housing area of, say,50 homes?While I • realize that money for housing development is very tight at present, this situation will of necessity be rectified within one or two years. Some of the advantages of such a housing development to the Village and to the Town are listed below. I-It will broaden the tax base by apprtximately$I,000,000. (50 homesx $20,000.average value . )Compare this wirh the increased tax assessment that will result from a trailer park. 2.Construction of these homes by local contractors and builders will result in hundreds of thousands of dollars in business for local merchant and employment for local residents. In contrast,trailors are built in other areas and little revenue from their construction is gained by the local community. • 3.Schooling for the children from fifty homes with an assessed valuation of 4J,000,000.will not place a tax burden on other residents of this area as would be the case with a trailer development. Despite the claims of the proponents of a trailer park,there is an average of two children per trailer in this area.The increase in taxes resulting from a trailer park will cover only a fraction of the increased cost of schooling these approx imately 250 aditionalc children.The fact is that the number of retired persons in trailer parks in this section,unlike Florida,is low. , S t}..A housing development of 50 homes will incrense,not decrease,the real estate value of the entire community.Five trailers per oar is not a imuirenit " Country Club"and cannot possibly increase real estate values of thda community. Three is no immediate need for a decision on this matter. The ® r need at this time is for deliberate and careful planning as to how this site can be developed to the best interests of the Town of Ulysses as a business and residential area. . Q a: B.J.VanDemark �; Robert C.Herrick • e • ' o ° Thomas Bennett 'S U G a John Radenberg aA. Y ,`_ William P,Hogan • •, ® , • • i . 1 I • o; I May 23, 1969 Town of Ulysses Planning Board Town Office Building • Elm Street Trumansburg, New York Gentlemen: The intent of this letter is to bring to the attention of the Board and • to the Town Board a clear statement of the opposition of the undersigned to the proposed approval and development of a 150 unit trailer park on the Olin Gardner property in the Town of Ulysses. • The undersigned have been in conversation with many of the residents • adjacent to the proposed development and we sincerely feel that our thinking and comments reflect those of many of these residents though this letter is not intended as a petition as such from the neighborhood at large. The • reasons for our opposition are as follows: 1. The present character of this area is modest residential properties owned by local families, many of whom have been long term residents of our community. Within the last several years the single family residence character of the neighborhood has continued with the construction of homes by Harry Thompson, Robert Herrick, John Radenburg, William Hogan and Clifford • Northrup. We believe most emphatically that this is a desired and suitable type of development for this community and would expect to see additional construction of this sort within this area in the future. Development of the proposed trailer site would almost certainly blight this area from further consideration of single residence home construction. • 2. The proposers George W. Thomas and John Collacchi, being unknown to many of us in the community and having made no effort to acquaint themselves with us, leave us in serious doubt as to their intention of developing an attractive trailer park and as to their purpose in so doing, beyond the motivation of their own personal. gain. Such a development, if it were contemplated by a known community member who had both illustrated an interest in the development of the community, coupled with the means of financing the appropriate and desirable development could • conceivably be looked upon with less suspicion and concern. ih 3. In their letter requesting village services the developers suggest that a tasteful and discreet atmosphere will be created with the addition of this park. It is our serious doubt that placing 150 • trailers on 30 acres, discounting the fractional part of this • acreage necessary for streets, sidewalks, a recreational building • and a recreational area could result in anything but a concentration of trailers so dense as to make landscaping and tasteful placement of these difficult, if not impossible. 4. A result of the effect of these trailers on existing property values can be realistically seen by a situation that exists in $ this neighborhood at the present time. Mr. James Morgan, who a purchased the Alton Kingsbury property adjacent to the property of the undersigned VanDermark, is attempting to sell his South Street - c property. The existence of a trailer and the addition which is • m being made to it by Mr. John Reynolds has been given as a primary reason by prospective purchasers for their lack of interest o in this property. It is our serious concern that the existence of • f a upwards of 150 such homes in the area would have a seriously bd depreciatory effect on the property value of present home owners in the area. We do question whether or not existing property owners can expect tax relief from our taxing authorities as a • result of such de facto depreciation. • 5. A further consideration for your group is to weigh carefully the effect of this proposed development upon our school system, • our side streets into and out of this area, our need for • additional community services including snow removal and police S • protection. In opposition to rather shallow statistics offered by the proposers as to the hopefully modest effect upon our school systems we merely suggest that one need only follow a school bus as it picks up children from our existing trailer parks to • determine the additional pupil load which will result from the • influx of 150 families in to the proposed trailer community. • 6. Because of the aforementioned single family properties which exist and are being constructed in the South Street - Pennsylvania Avenue area we feel that the encrochment of trailers into this area will result in homes of a completely non-conforming type in this area. It is our suggestion that if a trailer site be proposed in this township and if such construction be in accordance with existing zoning requirements that it be reconsidered for an area which is relatively isolated from a residential area. By this we mean the character of trailers within this neighborhood is entirely out of harmony with the way those of us who live in this area would like to see it develop. We are fully aware that we can not look out on vacant fields and that development on this rather satisfactory terrain is inevitable. We fully expect, and would approve of the development of a reasonable number of single family homes within this area. We would welcome those who bought such property as friends and neighbors and would offer no opposition. We only oppose development which would surely be detrimental to those who have, "Put their roots down in this area." • •............rrr—......�r.ti.u�wr:L�a.t..Y. .........u1Hwa.w.u. . .. t ♦.. r .. ..... a.. a. .. . _•4.. •_) t _.. r .� .t. r .✓ 'u ✓auw�. ..-. It is our respectful request that those of you who must review and act upon such a proposal, should it be made on a realistic basis, give serious consideration to the questions and concerns of those who have willingly committed themselves to home ownership in this area. Yours truly, AfAteve4 Paul, "enfe ,, k Robert C. Herrick RCH:jdb if ainaintannisa . . 113 • • ® June 17, 1969 • I • I Clifford Boor Q Ulysses Town Board -. Trumansburg; N.'T.. 11,@g6 . c Dear Sir: •• 3' 5 • The Planning Board of the Town of. Ulyseee met June 6,. 1969 to consider an application from. Babcocks;Poultry. Farms A Ino: ,for a Planned Develop�mesnt, District ' on 'the East, side of Routa' 96' between,rthe J 'dc,LYMotor. Court and .the 'Cold .Springs Road: : A single story. 72'` z ''32' Research Laboratory Building is to be constructed. on this site. In a letter from'Mr. Jack Hill it is stated that they do not plan to build any poultry houses on this site. Tho followi.ng members of the Ulysses Planning Huard 'recommends the approval of the Babcock Poultry Farms Inod ' - application for a planned developthent district and the construction of a Research Laboratory Buildings• • ® David Langley. Mrs. Sidney Rocker Thomas Gorman • Gerald Ehrhart • Alec Proekine was present but 'refrained from voting because of his involvement in the Real Estate Transaction fcr for this property. The other two members of the Planning Board, Winton Baines and Stanley-Koskinen, were out of town. • Very truly yours • • G.W. Ehrhart ' • • Chairman • • • • • • . lit OPERATION OF PROPOSED LABORATORY May 26, 1970 . 1. All experimentation on chicks will be performed within the laboratory. At no time will chicks leave the building except for further experimenta- tion at another laboratory. However, we expect this to be a rare situation. When tests are completed chicks will be destroyed. 2. Chicks to be' used for experimentation will be transported from our hatchery. 3. Incinerator equipment has been approved by the State of New York. Its operation will be in accordance with the requirements set forth by the Board of Health, and the manufacturer. 4. All areas will be kept clean and rubbish will be removed on schedule. 5. Construction of the proposed laboratory will basically match the exist- ing facilities. 6. The primary objective for the new laboratory is experimentation. We will not raise, sell or breed chickens. 7. The building will be automatically ventilated with no possibility of offensive odors. l • • �... . AFW.gm • . ' 1 ," �; '" a.,• • , • AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE OF TOWN or ULYSSES . A new Planned Development District Section: shall. be ' . Q E added to the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses as follows : - o SECTION 9-b - Planned Development District Ho . 2 . c a • (1) This district shall be kiown as Planned Development d District ito , 2 . on Y (2) The purposes for which the district may be used are • as follows : • ( a) The construction of a. research building for Babcock Poultry Farm, Inc . , said building to be 72 feet by 32 feet in width and ].ocated . approximately 150 feet from the east line of Route 96 and 190 feet • j from J . & •L Motor Court on the 20 acre premises to be • purchased by Babcock Poultry Farm, Inc . , as hereinafter described . (b ) The construction of further buildings within the Planned Development Area hereinafter described shall be subject to the approval of the Planning Board • • and the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses after • Public Nearing . (c) There shall be no chicken houses , breeding of chickens , rc-L•f.,."=t...crF:'-.''Irltattt. or sale of chickens in said Planned Development District . • ( 3 ) Area of the District . The area of said district shall bo approximately 20 acids fronting on Route 96 and boundod and doacribad as toll. , . • Bfi,GIIIMIHE at a pipe marking the intersecticn of the south line of Cold Springs Road withthe easterly lino of New York State Route 96 running from Trumansburg to Jacksonvi).].o i thence runnin ° g � t13•: 1129 ,5 feet along the . southerly side of Cold .•Springs Road rih.t • L of-way to a pipe •_ • • -1- . y/Mt•;C`:+ai7N'vR;nx,.1.v<,pN x4ctsr.7i-:iv:r':.G'!:':5:'::r,,.w.n.,::;r,F«.:nx.:'=:r�a-i:rn..... _.. . • • • ' set in the southerly line of said road marking a . . . • . ® northwesterly corner of premises of. Stanford C . Bates and wife as conveyed by the deed recorded in the Tompkins . ' County Clerk 's Office ?larch 1 , 1956 in Book 305 of Deeds . gt page 412 ; thence running S 17° 40 ' 0 and along a westerly • line of Bates 100 feet to a pipe ; thence running S 55° . • 10 ' Fl and along a westerly line of said Bates parcel, 267 ' . r feet to an iron pin; thence running S 14° 20 ' E and ' " along southerly line ' of said Bates 231 feet to iron pipe ; • thence running north 86° 55 ' E '545 feet to iron pipe ; ' ' thence running S 9° 30 ' .8 and along a further: westerly line of Dates 139 feet to a fence line ; thence running S 31° • s, ; \ ' 45 ' li and along lands nor or formerly of •Raymond Swartwood : 149 . 0 feet to an iron pipe ; thence running N 83° W along an old fence line marking premises now or formerly of . GiJ.lispie heirs 183 .5 feet to a pipe ; thence running S 6° 45 ' it and along a westerly line of said Gillispie heirs . marked by a fence , 270 , 8 feet to a pipe ; thence running . S 84° 30 ' W 475 .7 feet to an iron pipe set in the easterly line of New York State Highway right-of-tray Route 96 ; thence running N 24° 23" H and along the easterly line of said Highway about 119 feet to an iron pipe ; thence running N 31° 30 ' w and along the easterly line of said Highway 1225 feet to the pipe marking the point or place of 4 ' beginning . j _. . . _ The above described promises are convoyed" subject to ; t the rights of the Nen York Telphorte Company more particularly . I sot forth in an instrument dated February 9 , 1950 and recorded in the Tompkins County Clerk 's Office !larch 1, 1950 in Book 329 of Deeds at page 392 , as said right-of-nay may affect said parcel, and also subject to rights of Neu Yofk State Electric , & Gas Corporation as set forth in the instrument recorded in • •,1 said Clerk 's Office November 6 , 1959 in Book 423 of Deeds page 20 . -2- • • • • 4 There is hereby quit-claimed all the right , title and interest • of the Grantor in and to the premises lying northerly of the north line of the above described premises as it runs along the i p south line of Cold Springs Road, to the center line of said road, together with all of the right, title and interest of said Grantor in and to the premises lying between westerly • I line of the above parcel and the center line of Now York State • • Route 96 Highway , as said westerly line is co-existent with the easterly line of said Highway . 1 The above description is made in accozdanco with a survey � I • i 11 made by E .D. Crumb under date of August 1 , 1964 , a copy of 1 • which is filed in Tompkins County Clerk 's Office concurrently 0 herein . i ! I (4) Specifications for said District: ( a) An incinerator shall be provided by the Babcock • Poultry Farm, Inc. if sane is needed to eliminate: ordors - k in the area . Said incinerator to meet the requirements of the Tompkins County Health Department . 1 (b) Sewage and garbage disposal shall meet all the � I requirements of the Tompkins County Health Department . i I ; ( c) Drinking water shall be provided and conform to the Tompkins County Health Department 's standards . ' I a ( d) The entire district shall be kept free and clear of all litter and maintained in a neat and orderly manner ILand landscaped in keeping with the surrounding" area and especially a landscape of the parking area , (6) Signs : • (a) Two signs or, bulletin• boards not exceeding 18 square r , �o. is/' \. • feet in aroq�are "Vvauthorized referring to the uco of the r promisor . Said signs shall not be self-illuminating and the ' .4 + i; bottom of said sign shall not be more than' 5 feet from j r • ` r i • the ground. 1 ... • L t j i . . ._..._._-_ ....nwn......•++nr.IS7! .f ap4 awn?.t;',.ata k. .Li'.4!7,oths,Pi4wcw.$...i,V May TMO4ti✓«:grq...:•r.,•'.'..I', • • • • • I . f • I'_ ,. IIV MINUTES PUBLIC HEARING TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD Meeting, June 7, 1972 Present: Mr. James Rice, acting chairman of Town Board in absence of Mr. Bruce M. Payne, Town Supervisor; Mr. Gerald Ehrhart, Chairman of Planning Board; Mr. Stanley Tsapis, Town Attorney; Mrs. Arlee Robinson, Zoning Officer; Mr. Frederick Allen, Mr. Dana Payer, Mr. H. William Smith, Town Board; Miss Alice Conover, Town Clerk, A. Beers, secretary. Guests: Mr. and Mrs. Charles Lueder. Mr. James Rice opened the meeting at 7: 30 p.m. for public hearing relative to the request of Mr. and Mrs. Charles Lueder for an amendment to the Planned Development District No. 1 for expansion • of the Spruce Row Campsite. Mr. Ehrhart presented the suggested amendments to the Planned Develop- ment District No. 1 as requested by Mr. and Mrs. Lueder. Based on the original Planned Development District, they are: (1) This district shall be known as Planned Development District No. 1. (2) The purposes for which the district may be used are as follows: a. Campsites b. Living accommodations for campers shall be either tents, travel trailers, motor homes or pick-up campers or vehicles built with the intent to be used as such. Travel trailers are defined as: a vehicular portable structure built on a chassis designed to be used as a temporary dwelling for travel, :recreational and vacation uses; subject to highway regulations as a travel trailer. This being in contrast to a mobile home unit which is much larger and which is not a frequently moved and when it is moved, is generally pulled by a truck. c. No campsite shall be occupied for more than seven months in any calendar year by the frame camper and his living accommodations. There shall be no permanent sidence on the camp grounds as described in this Planned District. (3) Area of the District. The area of said district shall be approxi- mately 83 acres fronting on Kraft Road in said Town, bounded and described as per attached. (4) Specifications for campsites: a. Omit b. No site shall be closer than 50 feet to another campsite c. No sites shall be constructed closer than 501 feet to the highway. d. Same e. Same . 114 Planning Board meeting minutes 6-7-72 p2 f. Omit g. Same h. All roads within the district shall be at least 12 feet in ® width, properly marked with the necessary warning signs. i. Same j. Same (5 ) Sewage and Garbage Disposal Same (6) Water Facilities : EE Same ( 7) Maintenance 0 0 Same N a, 4 ' '� A d (8) Signs 2 • Same oa tr. . (9) Commercial Sales a. There shall be no commercial soles in this district except the sales of firewood, charcoaQ, or other fuel to be used for camp purposes, and an inventory of miscellaneous and sundry items for the accommodation and use of campers and their guests. • The amended Planned Development District No. 1 is to be presented to the Town Board at its meeting June 13, 1972, for action; and map of the District as amended is being revised. Upon approval by the Town Board, this amended Planned Development District will become a part of the revised Zoning Ordinance. There being no objections to the proposed amendment, the meeting was adjourned. GERALD EHRHART, Chairman Planning Board of Town of Ulysses • NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING .' Please take notice that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses will • hold a Public Hearing at the Town ,Office Building, 10 Elm St.,Tru- 'mansburg, New York at 7:30 p.m. ) on June 7th, 1972 to consider a request from the Spruce Row Camp, for an amendment to the Planned Development District No I i1, to expand their camp. By Order of the Town Hoard' • Dated May 23, 1972 Alice B.Conover, Clerk • FP21tw • • • I 'l b • • • , ALL THAT TRACT OR PARCEL OF LAND situate in the Town of Ulysses, 7. County of Tompkins and State of New York, and being part of Military Lot 16 in said Town and bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at a point in the center line of Kraft Road approximately 2643 feet from the west line of Military Lot 16; • THENCE south parallel to the west line of Military Lot 16 approximately 2061 feet to the south line of Military Lot 16; I ' THENCE west along the said south line of Military Lot 16 approximately. 2643 feet to•the west line of said Military Lot 16 (being the east line of Military Lot 15); THENCE north along the west line of Military Lot 16 approximately 1188 , feet to a point; THENCE northeasterly along a hedgerow and woodlot about 528 feet; THENCE in a southeasterly direction along the said hedgerow and woodlot about 462 feet; • CONTINUING THENCE in a southeasterly direction along the said hedge- • tow about 792 feet to a second hedgerow which runs north and south; THENCE north along the said second hedgerow about 792 feet to a third • • hedgerow which runs east and west; • THENCE east along,said third hedgerow about 462 feet; THENCE north about 350 feet to the center line of Kraft Road; THENCE east along the center line of Kraft Road about 462 feet to the point ' of BEGINNING. SUBJECT TO existing and public rights within the lines of said Kraft Road. BEING a part of the premises conveyed to Charles Lueder Jr. and Jeanne W. - • Lueder by J. Warren Chase Individually and as Administrator of the Estate of Ida May Chase, also known as Ida W. Chase, Mabelle C. Griffin and Amelia Chase by deed dated September 2, 1941 and recorded the same day in the Tompkins County Clerk's Office in Liber 261 of Deeds at page 340. • • • • r.:,r-4"'"nvi.ka ".m' Atu+ *'"..snv �'»'a fir.._"boa."' '3A1.^.i%S «.'.'i','»`.yve""f z'sx43`r,aa ,v,,r'4'kuv,,:f,tr coon" e.' ti'ia,z;iS:k'z. :`:. • • • .` 12-A TOWN OF 'ULYSSES • Trumansburg, N.Y. 14886 ® BRUCE M. PAYNE, Supervisor H. WILLIAM SMITH, Councilman ALICE CONOVER, Clerk FREDERICK ALLEN, Councilman JAMES E. RICE, Justice 607.387.8601 DANA FOYER, Justice • • APRIL 19, 1973 MEMORANDUM - IMPORTANT g TOs BOARD MEMBERS FROM BRUCE M. PAYNE, SUPERVISOR ee®.C N w ° SUBJECT: PUBLIC HEARING m . . O „ • Y A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD AT THE TOWN HALL, FRIDAY, MAY 4, 1973, RELATIVE TO THE ERECTION OF A N&I BUILDING IN THE BABCOCK INDUSTRIES INC. COMPLEX, AGRI-BIO, ON ROUTE 96, JACKSONVILLE, Ni E YORK. THE PLANS SUBMITTED WERE ACCEPTED LAST NIGHT BY THE PLANNING BOARD. IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND, PLEASE ADVISE. MEETING WILL BE AT 7:30 • riga • gitte 'Away frencej ree m 41,4. . 717 40— Ifircito7mAr -0104;•,‘ 46 gt-s-42-- eta' Qat .4,1rArt, acirsing, Aran, 7Atenteses- 0 eelidrmena ' 1 Lam ' . • . TOWN OF ULYSSES'. PLANNING BOARD:. April 20, 1973 i I Tot Ulysses Town Board ' . Froms Planning Board • _ • . The following recommendations,amending the Zoning Ordinance now . in force, are hereby submitted for appropriate action by the , town board. , ' ? • •• 1. That Article I, Section 1, part y be amended to'include ' �! i I • the defination of a mobile home, } ' • . 2. That Article V, Section 21, part a, line 5 be amended by ' j I .I changing PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS to read MOBILE HOKE i �. .. PARKS I ' . 3, That.on page 6 the title MOBILE HOME ORDINANCE be amended ! ' T': to read MOBILE HOME PARK ORDINANCE I iI J. 4. That on page 6 under Mobile Home Ordinance section 3 I I . . . License Fee be corrected from $20.00 to $2.00 I . . I ' • Notes Implementation of item 2 will create conflicting — ,' requirements relating to floor area. Article V, Section I • 21, part a - indicates not less than 750'square feet, where as under Mobile Home Ordinance, section 10, part • . 10.15 regulates the minimum at 600 square feet. i • nn . • �mGc« tf' . „ John .V. yrell • "' • Chairman . I! • aoi David Langley .• , • . . Jack Girox • • • . i . ! Winton Baines ' . ' j Oleo Haines • • Thomas Gorman r y• ' Thomas Gall • • • ' I . Anse Aobdnsost •:, . • I ; . S . • . . .. . • I 1 TOWN OF ULYSSES • t PUBLIC HEARING May 4, 1973 .' Present: Supervisor Bruce M. Payne; Councilmen J. Frederick Allen and H. William Smith; Justice James E. Rice, Jr. , Zoning Officer Arliss • Robinson; James McVey, representative from Babcocks (AgriBio Corporation, ' ! S Fl Jacksonville, New York); Mr. John V. Tyrell, Chairman, Town of Ulysses ` j Planning Board; A. Beers, Sec. o o Purpose of Hearing: To consider application of Babcock Industries a a c, to construct'a new warehouse and conference room, application for. , � ; building permit having been approved by the Planning Board on April 18, 1973. Copy of Planning Board meeting minutes attached. • Y ri Mr. Payne opened the hearing. General discussion of building plans followed. Members of the Town Board indicated they could see no reason why the proposed construction could not be approved. Mr. Tyrell and Mr. Payne asked Mr. McVey for a copy of the plot plan. Mr. Allen moved that the application be approved. Mr. Smith seconded . 1 the motion, voted and carried. . . A. Beers, Secretary • copies of minutes to • Mr. John McCoy • Dr. Emil Gelenczei . Mr. John ,Tyreli •_ ' . • r , . I • _! • • r 4' . • • ( . ale] . 1 • 4� • .. . • • • MINUTES OF THE MEETING TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MAY 12, 1973 TIME & PLACE: A special meeting of the Planning Board was held at 7:30 P.M. , Wednesday, April 12, 1973 at the Ulysses Town Office Building. PRESIDING: John V. Tyrell, Chairman ROLL CALL: Present Excused John Tyrell Winton Baines Jack Giroux Thomas Gorman Alec Proskine David Langley Thomas Gell OTHERS PRESENT: Douglas Dimock • NEW BUSINESS: Proposed Dimock Subdivision Mr. Douglas Dimock, 45 Congress Street, Trumansburg, New York, representing himself, Mrs .. Dimock, Mr. and Mrs . Rick Sellers and Mr. and Mrs . Chris Swansen presented a preliminary plat of a proposed subdivision on Rabbit Run Road . The matter was tabled until the June 7th meeting at which time Mr. Dimock will present a revised preliminary plat in further detail. Snyder Building Permit The application of Edward J. Snyder, Swamp College Road, Trumansburg, for a building permit to construct a mobile home on Swamp College Road was reviewed . A motion was made by Jack Giroux, seconded by David Langley and passed unanimously that this Planning Board recommend to the Ulysses Town Board that this application be disapproved for failure to meet the minimum requirement of 750 ft .2 of livable floor area as specified in Article V Section 21a of the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance . Also, acreage was not clearly defined and the Board was unable to determine if the minimum lot size of three acres would be met . -2- ® ' ADJOURNMENT: Meeting adjourned at 10:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, E Thomas E. Gell Secretary . co o • nin acn U i Oct a ., m • • up 0219 wt�� 1,xb May 29, 1973 Mr. Bruce Payne, Supervisor Ulysses Town Board Trumansburg, New York 14886 Ret Building Permit Application Edward J. Snyder„ Swamp College Roedd Dear Mr. Payne! At a special meeting of the Town of Ulysses Planning Board a building permit application submitted by Mr. Edward J. Snyder, Swamp College Road, Trumansburg, New York was reviewed. The Planning Board recommends to the Ulysses Town Board that this application be disapproved for failure to meet the minimum requirement of 750 ft.2 of livable floor area as Tr specified in Article V Section 21a of the Town of Ulysses tli. 0 • Zoning Ordinance. tol • Also, acreage was not clearly defined and the Board was unable to determine if the minimum lot size of three acres would be met. Very truly yours, ULYSSES TOWN PLANNING BOARD Thomas E. Gall SecretAry ditx _ 12''1 r, ' ' To the Ulysses Planning Board: Subjeo: , Mobile Home on 3 acre plot .:' On the tkt elan for the Mobile Home is. shown a dotted line----this line divides V ® .y the property now owned. by Mr. Snyder and the proposed Mobile Home Site. • As. of now, Mr. Snyder has an option to purchase thin property from Wilber, Briggs. • . I • As. he is the sole support of his mother, and has a family himself, he is not in _ a position to purchase this property until he finds out if the Mobile Home will SE • be. allowed. • • al . Co 0 A'rlee p ° • Oct . " ••• 2 . c 1°- • • . • i • i • I 1• • • . • • I • t . • • • • 1 • • • • • .. • • . • , • • fl. j � TOWN OF ULYSSES APPLICATION FOR BUILDING PERMIT Application Date Permit Number _..._ r II «: 3s.00 ' Date Make checks payable to Town of Ulysses Parcel Number Return application to: �/ Zoning District • Application is hereby made to (build CI, extend ❑2sonvert 0, ❑) a structure or use land at E.L /t?f_:__k-2&4.5_s':._.ccr_—_4/ crr,// !_'sJ Rd., Town of Ulysses, N. Y. To be used for 41/1.4t-c..__./?s .sa _—_±!ti T_.t_i_e_&4 At a cost of _ Structure is to be completed on or before .__.__..—_-_-_.__ r s 1 Owner of land _ E<d'.c•gr_-t.�_..___I_.4 N's-I-_I-:r ____.___ Builder £a4c ---.4 ,1.____;r't .;:' Lund Owner's mailing address 4,0 '---..i'pi).x_!r1°_.._Gel e7 !!_..._.._[_/titan.=:_ash.r-e ---_._. If building is being built for a person other than present land owner, show name ___ i'c!-�'n c-_-_{a:�_ :r, - The structure (s) will be as follgws: Square Feet Floor Area: Type of construction ,e41e_.a,_e___—_____ Basement --� Number of stories _.._L_____-__________________ First Floor 6 V 4.1 Number of Family Units ______......_________________ Second Floor • Percentage of Lot to be,occupied y Over Second _ by ail siructures ___:::cJa__ z n_1— _._ _ Pict Plan on Back of Permit or Attached F . / `t '" k. The required permits have been obtained as follows: Date Issued FROM TOi4IPKINS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT / /y R Approval of septic system and/or well i2� .,' • FROM TOWN CLERI{ Street opening (if road must be opened for pipes) • Blasting permit (if blasting necessary) • FROM SUPERVISOR - - Water 'Tap .__ District __..____.._ Sewer Tap District • FRO:,i PROPER HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT Culverts and driveways FROM TOWN ZONING OFFICER Multiple residence permit The Undersigned hereby applies for permission to do the above, in accordance with provisions of the Zoning Ordinance and other Laws and Regulations of the Town of Ulysses, New York, or others having ,jttiidictiun, and affirms that all statements and information given herein are correct to the best of his knowledge and belief. °, 7' , /', ./. / /� i- ' Date: _._ “.,:127.).” . , 1'J L., ce-G(Li-iv- f. (/ >L/:>:., , Signature of Landowner. . Building permit ( ) approved by Progress of work. Checked on: ' ( ) denied under Section ___-__ of the Zoning Ordinance Foundation _ _ _._ by -------_-__-_.____ Appeal action: Framing _.___— __ — _ _ Date of appeal _.______—_—_.-___-_____ Date of hearing .--._.......__....._________ Trim _—__--____—__—__.- Date of advertising __.__._..____. _ _...._ Board members notified Completion __.__ _ —_ -_ _-_ _ .____.— .__._..__—___ Order to refill excavation ________________�______.____________. issued on _____---.__..__ _._..-_-__ 9 . -••------- -----•---------------- Order to demolish structure ____---____--_—_-------......_---._-._._ Expenses of Appeal to be born by applicant. issued on _..._. _.. __ __ __ , Ix'? • .:., rr.l; 1r73r�/!.' Rh./'yn:r*!r^;`t41'r?�'•"� i 1N�1,^1. •'1 :t.r 11,11,0):.',It •161.11..14; • • P•-ar••n. y •1°.'1,.r' ' '1vi*. '1'”r. '( 1, •1,. ,t .vp.1 . .,. . +'1 f, , .•• .4'. (r•__, / 'I• ' • • ' ' • ! 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I /nal S', Ig73 ii .�' --''dD, `._'� OASF• q t T scale /� % i .. ' .' Wo o • s ; • .e+"" "'? k "A = ■. ts4,e.• dsposal .syr � ,,I I ', si ~ �fIJG WO 1 , r 1 , • ,,:. • • •:::,:i.•:; ;•.:•••.. .' !, • : y ( lox o h06 l . . '` '• \ �! , rr w:N. IZXYO cAA�A• BOO. ) . '+ t ,• • it 6 was4r d is pc,41 sticrept' t . : , • , in.H... •I ' 1/21 ' . '14 ` / t••••• ciYIYC WCI� ' ',., ' 'r .,i: � . l •' 1 ",y' r'i'�'�.1 :I' • ' . ,,• .1 , •,'.-i I: „ '., err f . �{].� 1�J/ ��''�/�.�� ; :tici i' 3 r, • ' , ,t \ ,• .' : • '''I '� ; , ' +. •'!''. .I.':.,;. '\ cco,A!VP CoihE6t Rp.. ' .7:the'sda to t'•�{.. . : ... ., ., . • • TOMPKINS COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH v" I 1287 TRUMANSBURO Rn, ITHACA, N, Y. SEWAGE DISPOSAL CONSTRUCTION PERMIT ® FOR ki) e.i u .a(zi `�.J ,i dc,(..- �^� J // �� f • LOCATION %CiL `i0 td .. — j l } • • PERMIT: Valid for sewage flows NOT in excess of /'O f/ gallons per day ( � bedroom + house or equivalent). Valid for garbage grinder NO (yes or no). j d j ' In accordance with the provisions of the County Sanitary Code, you are hereby granted permission to 0 o construct a private sewage disposal system at the above location in accordance with the sketch and details i a shown herein or previously provided. j U E V ; The installation upon completion and PRIOR TO COVERING MUST be inspected by this Depart- + Y1� ment. At least 24 hours prior notice is required before final inspection. ■ I All household liquid wastes including bath room, kitchen and laundry wastes must be disposed of through this installation. l • i , f If the construction job is to be done by a contractor, it is to your advantage to insist on a fixed price for the completed system subject to final approval of the system and issuance of a Certificate of Corn- j - pletion by the Health Department. Roof leaden, cellar or tooting drains and wastes from water softening units must be entirely separate . from the sewage disposal system and must be located at least 20 feet from the sewage disposal area. i 1. In order to insure long useful life of your disposal system, the septic tank should be cleaned every 2 to 4 years (even more often if garbage grinders used) depending upon the amount of solids such as S greases, soap scum, toilet wastes and other solid materials discharged to the tank. If possible, the sludge and scum depth should be checked every year. When the combined depth of sludge and scum equals 14 of the total liquid depth, cleaning is necessary. Septic tanks are best cleaned in the spring or summer as . they become readjusted more readily in warm weather, See "Sewage Disposal Systems For The Home" < Available from the Health Dept. 1 A list of persons authorized to clean septic tanks in this County may be obtained from the Health De- I pertinent. It will be to your advantage to insist on a fixed cost for cleaning or at least to obtain a definite 1 maximum estimate before engaging • septic tank cleaner. Normal use of household detergents and chemicals will not be harmful to your disposal system. Avoid _ use of so-called septic tank cleaners or conditioners as they have not been shown to be beneficial and they may result in actual harm to the system. Date...ii. 1, Inspector rrr" • ela ..,• • PLANNING BOARD - TO/1N OF ULYSSES June 4, 1973 To Planning Board Members, I • ' Reminder: Scheduled regular meeting JUNE 7, 1973 at 7:30 , . I . AGENDA: Mr. Dimick will be present with his revised subdivision plat. Mr. Snyder wishes to offer his revised application for • .1 a mobile home site for approval. Evaluate and coordinate our euggeetionrrelative to the . Zoning Ordinance. John Tyrell Chairman I I 1 • . i •. i,, it . ; II • • I' . • . • . t II . , . � . i • .• /5 4 MINUTES TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD JUNE 7, 1973 ® Time and Place: The regular meeting of the Planning Board was held at 7:30 p.m. Thursday, June 7, 1973 at the Ulysses Town Office Building. .=. Presiding:John V. Tyrell Chairman E°' Roll Call: Present Excused C 0 a John Tyrell David Langley s 5 Jack Giroux G g Winton Baines Thomas Gorman Y Alec Proskine Thomas Gell Others Present: Edward Snyder Edward Foster • Wes McDermott Old Business : Snyder Permit Application Mr. Edward Snyder, Swamp College Road, Trumansburg, presented and application for a planned development district on Swamp College Road. A motion was made by Winton Baines, seconded by Thomas Gorman and passed unanimously that : The Planning Board recommend to the Town Board that the application of Edward Snyder for a planned development district containing 7+ acres located on Swamp College Road be approved subject to a variance on the livable floor space requirement of 750 sq. ft. or subject to Mr. Snyder meeting the floor space requirement of 750 sq.ft. for a mobile home. Further, this Board recommends that this be granted only for the life of Mrs. Mildred Snyder and for her personal occupancy. Zoning Ordinance Chairman Tyrell will 'ask the Town Board for authority to reoutline the Town Zoning Ordinance. ; III t ; Next Meeting: Thursday, October 4, 1973 7:30 p.m. nA _ Adjourn- --/// , l/ D/ met Meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ,�--a` MINUTES TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD JUNE 7, 1973 Time and Place : The regular meeting of the Planning Board was held at 7 :30 p.m. Thursday, June 7, 1973 at the Ulysses Town Office Building. Presiding:John V. Tyrell • Chairman Roll Call: Present Excused John Tyrell David Langley Jack Giroux Winton Baines Thomas Gorman - Alec Proskine Thomas Gell • Others Present: Edward Snyder Edward Foster Wes McDermott Old Business : Snyder Permit Application Mr. Edward Snyder, Swamp College Road, Trumansburg, presented and application for a planned development district on Swamp College Road. A motion was made by Winton Baines, seconded by Thomas Gorman and passed unanimously that : • The Planning Board recommend to the Town Board that the application of Edward Snyder for a planned development district containing 7+ acres located on Swamp College Road be approved subject to a variance on the livable floor space requirement of 750 sq.ft. or subject to Mr. Snyder meeting the floor space requirement of 750 sq.ft. for a mobile home. Further, this Board recommends that this be granted only for the life of Mrs. Mildred Snyder and for her personal occupancy. Zoning Ordinance • Chairman Tyrell will ask the Town Board for authority to reoutline the Town Zoning Ordinance. Next Meeting: Thursday, October 4, 1973 7:30 p.m. � , ment Meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m. u1- •- ' 4 June 19, 1973 ca . Mr. Bruce Payne, Supervisor o ' Ulysses Town Board 0 o Trumansburg, New York 14886 c d Re: Proposed Planned Development District 2 WI Edward J. Snyder Y Swamp College Road Dear Mr. Payne: • At the regular meeting of the Town of Ulysses Planning Board held June 7, 1973, Mr. Edward Snyder presented an application for a Planned Development District on Swamp College Road. 411 The Planning Board recommends to the Ulysses Town Board that the application of Edward Snyder for a Planned Develop- ment District of 7+ acres located on Swamp College Road, be approved, subject to a variance on the livable floor space requirement of 750 sq.ft. , or subject to Mr. Snyder meeting the floor • space requirement of 750 sq.ft. for a mobile home. Further, this Board recommends that this be granted only for the life of Mrs. Mildred Snyder and for her personal occupancy_ Very truly yours, Ulysses Town Planning Board John V. Tyrell, Chairman Thomas E. Gell, Secretary TEG/pb 1 I TOWN OF ULYSSES TOWN BOARD Minutes of a Public Hearing On the Application of Edward Snyder For a Planned Development District Time and Place: Ulysses Town Hall June 28, 1973, 8:45 P.M. Presiding: Bruce M. Payne, Supervisor Board Members Present: James E. Rice, Justice H. William Smith, Councilman • Others Present: Arlee Robinson • Edward Snyder - Edward Foster Rolf A. Holtkamp Thomas E. Gell Application of Edward Snyder: Bruce Payne read a letter from the Town Planning Board to the Town Board, a letter from Edward Snyder to the Planning Board and presented a map submitted by Edward Snyder (see attach- ments) . • James Rice related that a problem arose with a similar situation, in the past, when the invalid person died the owners of the nonconfirming trailer wanted to rent it rather than remove it. Mr. Snyder made assurance that this would not happen in the present case. A motion was made by James Rice and seconded by H. William Smith that the recommendation of the Town Planning Board be approved. This motion was approved unanimously. It is the intent of Mr. Snyder to request a variance from the Board of Appeals on the minimum floor space requirement. • Respectfully Submitted, Thomas E. Gell Acting Recording Secretary TEG/pb 7/2/73 - . • . . • • , r • June 19, 1973 • Mr. Bruce Payne, Supervisor o • Ulysses Town Board c o Trumansourg, New York 14886. a ° 0 d Re: Proposed Planned Development District Edward J. Snyder Mg Y " ...- Swamp College Road r° Dear Mr. Payne: At the regular meeting of the Town of Ulysses Planning Board held June 7, 1973, Mr. Edward Snyder presented an application for a Planned Development District on Swamp College Road. • The Planning Board recommends to the Ulysses Town Board that the application of Edward Snyder for a Planned Develop- ment District of 7± acres located on Swamp College Road, be approved, subject to a variance on the livable floor space requirement of 750 sq.ft. , or subject to Mr. Snyder meeting the floor space requirement of 750 sq.ft. for a mobile home. Further, this Board recommends that this be granted only for the life of Mrs. Mildred Snyder and for her personal • occupancy.. Very truly yours,, • Ulysses Town Planning Board John V. Tyrell, Chairman Thomas E. Gell, Secretary TEG/pb o . . • • • • i3q • , , • May 8, 1973 Ulysses Town Board Town of Ulysses Planning Board I an requesting a planned development district per section 7 of the revised zoning ordiance of Town of Ulysses. I wish to place a mobile home on my property for my mother, Mrs. Mildred Snyder, who has multiple sclerosis. The mobile home is to remain on proper ty only for life use of Mrs. Snyder, then be removed. See enclosed plans for location details. • J oW k " . .. I • . t--a uo .....--........._>:I a n 0s$ . C _rtH \ gla . e , . i ; i : sa....... ic,„). t (Ned 4 0411* affeinied)SrPrrc sysrf4i `' , . � `,� O c \ ! L , . . , ' ' Sa ; is Sas�'2rti . r oiuewK I .. • ,• s 41.k- 1 .' 1�. . ' ! • --- I A,. 'fens i a 3 E • sy? .` v. , t a. propotecl r I e ,s ; 6ad ?. . . . 2 .0f'.isr-IY1ef •, M •. n • Sao, s 2 U j O C -i I � ' I V (�3 kp�o(�+•eX. i t 1. :4 i . 47 ,... .0 .• ' , e... M.. . •• . . . a* Al P♦ ! eta ✓...... a• Tend0 R / • 14° MINUTES • TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD AUGUST 27, 1973 TIME & PLACE: A special meeting of the Planning Board was held at 7:30 p.m. , Monday, August 27, 1973, at the Ulysses Town Office Building. PRESIDING: John V. Tyrell, Chairman ROLL CALL: PRESENT EXCUSED '' • John Tyrell Winton Baines Jack Giroux Alec Proskine David Langley Thomas Gorman Thomas Gell OTHERS PRESENT: Richard E. Parker Mary Parker NEW BUSINESS: Mr. Richard Parker presented an application for a planned development district as shown on map entitled 'Survey map showing parcel to be conveyed by Alfred M. Mk & E. Alice Eno on Trumansburg Road, N.Y.S. Route 96, Town of Ulysses, Lot No. 22, Tompkins County, New York" dated May 4, 1973, by Thomas G. Miller, Engineer and - Surveyor, Ithaca, New York. A motion was made by Jack Giroux, seconded by David Langley and carried that the Town Planning Board recommend to the Ulysses Town Board that this applica- tion be approved. NEXT REGULAR MEETING: Thursday, October 4, 1973, 7:30 p.m. ADJOURNMENT: Meeting Adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Thomas E. Gell Secretary • ( r \ &e11 ,#< %l j TOWN OF ULYSSES / 5v R APPLICATION FOR BUILDING PERMIT • , / Cy) • Application Date V1.. .' /+y s 1 Permit Number _ _ Fee: OM Date _......._..__ Make checks payable to Town of Ulysses Parcel Number • Return application to: .........._-_.-__--____--. �,7� /y,Zoningl/District Application is hereby made. (build 0, extend 0, convert cog.t.0✓{,r,jg.,llr2r*- 0) a structure or use land at j1. . ._ . •_-..____.____ �__.___.__.._____ Rd., Town of Ulysses, Nit.y. f.. To be used for _._fit.-a..✓.g .� ____-- At a cost of Q.QQ_..--_-- Structure is to be cp.Tpleted on or fore -.. % -.�___-.-_-w-..._�-.-.-. . , 19_ _ -.__w Owner of land .-. ..,1/4�__. ��'-: _ Builder __ /�Y.,- 7/ /I a_ Land Owner's mailing ad ss �0t__.5 � -:.,,ccnrte!tr _.F/_�., -_ 7a711—_____ o o If building is being built for a person other than =sent land owner, show na .�. w0' 2 0 The structure (s) will boa's folipws:, Square Feet Floor Area: 0 ,; Type of construction 1%Pc, i l fY .._-___ Basement 05 Number of stories ___._..___._.____ First Floor ..._LYE ___ r 1 Number of Family Units --..___ _ _.__ Second Floor ___ _r_ ___ �� ~�� . Percentage of Lot to be occupied Over Second by all structures _._ Plot Plan on Back of Permit or Attached The required permits have been obtained as follows: Date Issued FROM TOMPKINS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT •• O _ qq _ 7 3 t Approval of septic system and/or well ___.....__O_-_ --.l-- _ _---__. . FROM TOWN CLERK • Street opening (if road must be opened for pipes) ,_.___ __r...__.._ Blasting permit (if blasting necessary) ------- ._-+-_. FROM SUPERVISOR . Water Tap -_ District . . .. . . . -.. Sewer Tap District ___.._____.___w__.._ 1 , • FROM PROPER HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT Culverts and driveways FROM TOWN ZONING OFFICER Multiple residence permit _______ - The Undersigned hereby applies for permission to do the above, in accordance with provisions of the Zoning Ordinance and other Laws and Regulations of the Town of Ulysses, New York, or others having jurisdiction, and affirms that all statements and information given herein are con to the best of his knowledge and belief. /� Date: -. • -- /1 , 19. ' - . / _ '`'j-1)--- _ ��'� Signature of Landowner. Building permit ( ) approved by Progress of work. Checked on: ( ) denied under Section __._-_ of the Zoning Ordinance Foundation Appeal action: Framing Date of appeal __...-_--_ _._. Date of nearing _-___-_--- - Trim __.. Date of advertising - -__-___--_-_---__ Board members notified Completion ....._-__. _ .._, Order to refill excavation issued on - Order to demolish structure Expenses of Appeal to be born by applicant. issued on - • ' , • T y ' ( J � . ?' 111+5•1.' .'. :'i..i • . 'i'• 'y •i • • t •••• meal egt17t) STATE OF NEW YORK—DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION r a • Perna Yee $ Nn nfvary% 4 ti HW Permit No.373� 0372 '• Ins. Yet $ 2 5( I• 11&:'7, Deposit Deposit Rec'd for 1S• rote -,calved $ P 50 Ck. or�`�M��o)_�� 4'77 I ...'......:1„1,: •u • Che. M.O.$ •#'g 479 oats h/4/71 � . : • ,, Date44M 7$ , 479 i , �. n.,^ ., u.tdtity Ina Poll p HIGHWAY WORK PERMIT Of . ." ;:i 1 $ chargeable to • txpitlng gnounq 4 - WaWnan'a Compeneellon r,.,.... �.' ••. . I . - •,, .r me roucy a Bond .�.— Olaabela e.n.at. cowr.P• Undertaking on file. __ - Polk:y 8 .; • • • Under the provisions of the Highway Law, permission Is hereby granted to. Richard E. Parker (Name of Parmittee) • . whose address IsP-0- Heir , aokannie,N.Y . .ll :ofnrnl nh rtnra i set tali got or-1211 steel pipe as shown on the above Bketoh. Ditch to be ., . (WIa summary of work authorized including type of Installation and number of feet) .• • ',: rf £ nnnr.nc ary to inntq • • : • : .. . • • s • . , • • • . • • eat l • • • - • • • rt. : • . :y t north of R.M. 96-2602-3053 I SR No. 616nh Tompkins as set forth and represented in the attached applica- . Von; at the particular location or area, or over the routes.as stated therein, If required) and pursuant to the con- l • ditions and regulations, whether general or special, and methods of performing work, if any; all of which are set i l • forth in the application and form part of this permit - sttmated Date of Completion... ompletion 9/1 I(73 Commf Aof/Tran /rtatlo , - • ' i .. , • ated at , New York •• By ,J - ` atoJune 12, 1973 • . .. . , • '.• ••IMPORTANT • . . .. .. ''.I' ■t I • THIS PERMIT, WITH APPLICATION AND DRAWING (OR COPIES THEREOF) ATTACHED,•SHALL BE "' : i PLACED iN THE HANDS OF THE CONTRACTOR BEFORE ANY WORK IS STARTED. : 'TICE—It Is absolutely necessary that the permittee notify John Shannon • Resident Engineer, whose address i:Box 123rd St. Ext.,Ithaoa,N.Y. • Art-1471 i. . Tel. No before week is started and upon Its completion. .. , • Issuing authority resents the right to suspend or moles this permit,at Its discretion without•hearing or 1M rwcessaf of showing cause,either ' On or during the operations authorised. • / 1 -• -.•....d rM aaollueen to be and emote attached�hento Until all work under the permit is satisfactorily . • • . •• -. r I . . • . .. • . . ' .• / • • I . • . . f • r . ., •f, . • • I • r • , 1 • 1 r• • , Q .. V . • - 1 • SKETCH AND SPECIFICATIONS • ■" (See Attached Specs. for Additional data.) BUILDING SEWER 4" cast iron, leaded joints, minimum grade y," per foot, supported to prevent settling. Minimum dis- • tance to well 25 ft. SEPTIC TANK Water tight concrete, or Health Department approved tank; Capacity 700 gals.; Minimum ' distance from house /0 ft.; from water supply,50 feet.Support on undisturbed ground free of large stones. Washed gravel base is best. Minimum 24" Diameter Manhole to surface required. SEWER FROM • TANK TO DISPOSAL AREA 4" NSF approved plastic or bituminized fibre pipe; Tight joints; Minimum grade 1" per foot. DISTRIBUTION BOX No. outlets •�•• ; Outlets all same level and 4"from bottom; Inlet at least 1"above outlets. FILi. Length ......... . . ... . . ft.: Width • ft.; Depth . ... .. .. : .... . ft.; Use porous fill; Do not ' use heavy clay soil. Fill must be inspected and allowed to settle 90 days before trenching. Do not . strip top toil within 50 feet of fill and in fill area. See Fill Specification Sheet for details. '•V TILE FIELD 4" NSF approved perforated pipe; Total ft. : No. laterals . ; Length per lateral ft.; Grade not more than 1/16" per ft.: Trench width inches; Depth ...... .... .. .. ...... inches; Minimum distan:e from any water supply ft.; Minimum • distance between center of trenches . ft.; Use 6"to 8"of 3/4-1/2"washed gravel under tile and 2" above tile; Lay building paper or straw over gravel before replacing earth; Do not strip soil, nor work when wet nor run heavy equipment over tile field area. Keep laterals out of driveways and - ., 20 ft. from banks, edge of fills, streams, tooter drains,waterlines and gsalines. LEACHING • PIT Minimum distance from any water supply ft.; Site inside (length ft., width or diameter ft., depth below inlet ft.); Walls of cinder block or equivalent with openings facing out; Use 4" No. 3 gravel around walls; Use concrete cover. Equivq• • lent precast concrete drywells may be used providing equal square footage of earth wall Is pro- vided and excess open area is filled with coarse stone. SAND FILTER Length y� ft.;Width l.& ft.; Depth .sand as ft.; Source of sand .YJ.....,..F..0 .ke, shlorinotion chamber 50 gallons with unitary "T" inlet; Must be in- • wetted before and after placing sand. See Filter Specification Sheet for details. REMARKS • t . GA P•• • I w/ SAVE FOR I• 'PURE REFERENCE ' . • ' • , .. 'V,� X11 . i w - ,1 . . . . , . . • H ® 4 TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD • ''+ S February 19, 1974 o Co Cu, 0 , w � o• d X b Y To All Planning Board Members: There will be a special meeting of the Planning Board on Wednesday, March 6, 1974 at 7: 30 p.m. at the • ∎ Ulysses Town Hall. The purpose of the meeting is to consider an applica- tion from Babcock Industries for alterations to their - Agri-Bid Building on Planned Development District No. 2. Very truly yours, velw o�I� Thomas E. Ge 1 Chairman O TEG:ts • ►'t6 Town of Ulysses Planning Board Meeting-----March 6, 1974 • Subject: Bab000k's Agri-Bio —addition to building The Ulysses Planning Board mot March 6, 1974 to consider an addition to the Bab000k Agri-Bio Labratory located in Planned Developement District #2 in the Town of Ulysses. Present at the meeting were Tom Gal, Chairman of the Ulysses Planning Board, John Rutter, Winton Baines and Aleo Proskine--members of the Planning Board. • Discussion took place on the purpose of the addition, plans of the addition • were looked over, a letter from the Tompkins County Health Dept. was presented, this letter is attached to these minutes, discussion on the use of the addition continued-- the addition will be used to continue the same type of work and will use the same equipment as is now in use. Two (2) small (15x20 ft.) rooms will be added to the back of the building to hold equipment. Mr. Rutter moved that the Planning Board recommend to the Ulysses Town Board • that the plans as presented by Babcock,Inc. be accepted and presented to the Ulysses Town Board for their consideration. Mr. Baines Seconded the motion. Neeting Adjourned, Arlee Robinson SEC. Pro-Tam • • • . , , • • 141 LEGAL NOTICE LEGAL NOTICE LEGAL NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING a. • The Ulysses Town Board will hold a Public Hearing, Friday March 29, 1974, 54 at 7:30 P. M. in the Ulysses Town Hall located on Elm St. in the Village of 2a . Trumansburg, N. Y. Tho purpose of the Hearing is to act on the request of • • • oo o Babcock, Inc. to construct an addition on the present building of Agri—Bio • u . Labratory located on property owned by Babcock, Inc. and located in Jacksonville, • ° : N. Y. This property is referred to in the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance as Planned Y r- D4v. #2. This request was presented to the Ulysses Planning Board on March 6, 1974 and recommended by that Board 9 the Ulysses Town Board. � �/g..aG?-LSzv,.. • Alice Conover Ulysses Town Clerk • • • • II/ _ .1111_.111.b TOIIPKI ti`S COUNTY . PE�°11PT ENT OF HEALTH ' 1287 Trumamhuro Rood •i Kathleen Gaffney, DS.D. _ Comminlon.r of Health Ithaca, Now York ` • phone 272.7272 • February 25, 1974 • . , Mr. John ,McCoy Babcock Poultry Farms, Inc. P.O. Box 280 • . Ithaca, NY 14850 I . Re : Jacksonville Agri-Bio building (letter of February 15, , • 1974) . • Dear Mr. McCoy: . - c ' Mr. Alfred Wissing indicated by letter to this department, • dated January 7, 1972 that the new addition' to the then- ' existing laboratory would have a maximum flow of 50 gallons per person per day or a total of 300 gallons per day, because • • a total of six people were going to work there. The sand • filter was designed and installed for a maximum flow of 450 gallons per day. • I would say if this flow does not exceed its designed rate, a new system would not have to be installed. ,, Since 1969, as you. know, the first laboratory was built', 1972 saw the addition to the laboratory and finely in 1973 the . warehouse conference room was built. At the present time, there are a total of four sewage systems serving these two • buildings . I am concerned about having a lot of small sewage systems to handle' each new addition in such a small area . i . • Because of local, state, and -federal laws covering waste water treatment operations, the company :should start consid- ering what facilities will be needed in the future. It appears • to me that there is not any more room for sewage systems in e ' relation to the existing buildings. I would think the following factors would have to be considered. -2- ( 1. What additional buildings will be needed that . ® ,: require sewage treatment? • • 2 . The type and amount of treatment that would be •• needed. • 3 . The amount .of room available for such treatment. , Please understand local approval cannot be given on • such projects. However, such plans must go through this Ma g department, and it may require your company obtaining an • t _ • engineer to design the system. Enclosed is an outline of , , e t : what is required for sewage disposal systems. If there are el any questions in regards to this matter, feel free to contact • C • me. ,.. 0 rn Very truly yours, • c0 a J • • Y '- f . . . • • • Carl Burgess • . Sr. Environmental Health Tech. . Enc. , '� CB/rw , . . I I • . • ' TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD April 22, 1975 TO ALL PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS: There will be a meeting of the Town of Ulysses Planning Board at 7: 30 p.m. on Monday, April 28, 1975, at the Ulysses Town Hall to consider a proposed change in planned development district No. 2, Babcock Poultry Farm, Inc. �.. Sincerely yours, TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD Thomas E. Gell Chairman TEG:ts r.. TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNNING BOARD k May 15, 1975 e o � Via, 5. 0 M _ t beg TO ALL PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS: There will be a meeting of the Ulysses Town Planning / Board at 7: 30 p.m. , Tuesday, May 27, 1975, at the Ulysses • ` Town Hall to consider a change in the planned development district of Mr. Bruce Robinson located on Swamp College Road. Sincerely, - ezeia Thomas E. Gell Chairman TEG:cb , .1 TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD June 17 , 1974 Dear There will be a meeting of the Town of Ulysses Planning C. Board at 7:30 p.m. on Monday, June 24 , 1974 at the Ulysses • Town Hall to consider an application from Mr. Marvin Cooper to erect a mobile home on Iradell Road. • Please make every effort to attend. Very truly yours , • TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD Thomas E. Gell Chairman TEG:ts Enos. ` „,y • 1 MINUTES - INSTRUCTIONS The official record of the proceedings is called the minutes, • These usually include the date, time, and place of the meeting, the name of the presiding officer, and a list of those present (and sometimes those absent), • Papers presented are often attached to the final typewritten • a C minutes, Discussions should be summarized, not recorded in full, J = 2 E Resolutions and motions should be fully recorded in their proper order, together with the names of those who introduced and e o . seconded the motions. fl y m •; a Weather short or long, well-organized minutes of a meeting are CI essential, For quick, accurate identification of each item of f 21' business,use marginal headings. Y ` The following is a sample reconstructed from the text book, tti MINUTES OF THE MEETING TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD _ ,_ JANUARY 3, 1973 • SS .S/aces SQvcS TIME AND A special meeting of the Planning Board was r PLACE held at 7130 p,m;, Wednesday, January 3, 1973, in the Ulysses Town Office Building 1r PRESIDING Mr, Gerald Eherhart, Chairman, Town of Ulysses Planning Board, presided, BOARD Presents MEMBERS David Langley Winton Mine Tom Gorman Abe Proskine John Tyrell, Sec, Absent. Jack Giroux BUSINESS — Review the apnlication of Bruce Robinson ill for a Planned Developement of three acres, purpose - placement of one mobile home, • MOTIONS Motion was made and carried to postpone a ADJOURNMENT decision on said application, allowing time to claify intent of revised Zoning Ordinance. Meeting adjourned at 10,00 p,a, , • MINUTES OF THE MEETING TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MAY 12, 1973 TIME & PLACE: A special meeting of the Planning Board was held at 7:30 P.M. , Wednesday, April 12, 1973 at the Ulysses Town Office Building. PRESIDING: John V. Tyrell, Chairman ROLL CALL: Present Excused John Tyrell Winton Baines Jack Giroux Thomas Gorman Alec Proskine David Langley Thomas Gell OTHERS PRESENT: Douglas Dimock NEW BUSINESS : ; Proposed Dimock Subdivision Mr . Douglas Dimock, 45 Congress Street, Trumansburg, New York, representing himself, Mrs . Dimock, Mr. and Mrs . Rick Sellers and Mr. and Mrs. Chris Swansen presented a preliminary plat of a proposed subdivision on Rabbit Run Road . The matter was tabled until the June 7th meeting at which time Mr. Dimock will present a revised preliminary plat in further detail. Snyder Building Permit The application of Edward J. Snyder, Swamp College Road, Trumansburg, for a building permit to construct a mobile home on Swamp College Road was reviewed . A motion was made by Jack Giroux, seconded by David Langley and passed unanimously that this Planning Board recommend to the Ulysses Town Board that this application be disapproved for failure to meet the minimum requirement of 750 ft.2 of livable floor area as specified in Article V Section 21a of the Town of Ulysses Zoning Ordinance. Also, acreage was not clearly defined and the Board was unable to determine if the minimum lot size of three acres would be met. • IS -2- ® ADJOURNMENT: Meeting adjourned at 10:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, r Thomas E. Gell Secretary co o0 a0 > 4 U O ai 2 u ro xl- • • • • • ■ • • • • I,Sb 1 l PLANNING BOARD - TOWN OF ULYSSES \ ' June 4, 1973 i To Planning Board Members, . Reminders Scheduled regular meeting JUNE 7. 1973 at 7=30 . AGENDA: Mr. Dimick will be present with his revised subdivision . plat. ' Mr. Snyder wishes to offer his revised application for , . a mobile home site for approval. p ' . Evaluate and coordinate our euggeetionsrelative to the . Zoning Ordinance. • John Tyrell Chairman i • l . Ji• I, i ,. . • III I! 1.I, . 1 . . C , t i r, I ' , , i . .. 157 ZONING ORDINANCE .Amendment requested by Spruce Row Campsite Charles & Jeanne Lueder. SECTION 9.8 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NO.1 (1) This district shall be known as Planned Development District No. 1 (2) The purposes for which the district say be used are as follows* (a) Campsites. (b) Living acconodations for campers shall be either tents, travel trailers, motor hoses or pickup campers or vehicles built with the intent to be used as such. Travel trailers are defined ass • vehicular portable structure built on • chassis designed to be used as a temporary dwelling c for travel, recreational and vacation uses; subject to highway regulations o o as • travel trailer. This being in contrast to a mobile home unit which is such larger and which is not frequently moved and when it is moved, is ' t] e generally pulled by a truck. 2 § (1) Area of the district. The area of said district shall be approximately 83 acres fronting on Kraft Road in said town, bounded and described as follows, (see attached sap) • • (4) Specifications for campsites, (a) omit • J (b) No site shall be tut closer than 50 ft. to another campsite. (c) No further sites shall be constructed closer than 501 ft. to the highway. I' (d) same (e) same • (f) omit (g) same (h) All roads within the district shall be at least 12 ft. in width, properly marked with the necessary warning signs. (1) same (j) same (5) Sewage and Garbage disposal. (same) (6) Water Facilities (same) • (7) Maintenance (same) (8) Signs (same) • (9) Commercial SAles (a) There shall be no commercial sales in this district except the sales of s firewood, charcoal or other fuel to be used for camp purposes, and an '-'a u inventory of miscellaneous and sundry items for the acoomodation and use of campers. .4 uesfs • • • • lAHATIQWS Ws are applying for this change in the ordinance to allow us to sake plans for the All !I future and to perhaps see our say to operating a business thee would sties us to make , • living from the property without having to go motaido to bring in extra revenue. We feel that it la a right to bn allowed to develop our resources to that extent. Wo would also like to cake further improvements such as a permannet toilet and shower building. but feel that we need some assurance that we can maks it pay to do so. The lunges that we have asked for would help us to do this. We have tried to think • ahead as we must do, to avoid having to auk for another amendment is the near future • and to allow us to develop as the future needs arts.. Iwo this past we have tried to do just as the demand and our finances would compensate for. • i May we explain these changes.-- ' (2) (a) We have omitted the sword Seasonal sines in the future it looks now as though ' I qty more people morsoshas their equipment for the whole year. As of now we W111 Use- feel that the moat of plowing is too much. but perhaps if the deuced were . , I greet enough it would be a possibility. I feel that with the outlay of expense in providing pater and electricifl and such that it should be left to the operator. as en operational decision. (b) The definitions of camping units has changed in the last few years and may also change in the future. Also anything that is pulled on the highway as • a recreational vehicle is necessarily governed by highway regulations. (1) Ws have attempted to follow the boundaries of the fare as far as possible. We did not feel that at any tip in the foreseeable future the property west of the house bordering on Kraft Road should be included as a part of the vamp area. The • areas which we have included (as you can see from the map) are isolated for the most part fees the publics view. (4) (a) This is again an operational development. to make dement, investment and income balance outil (b) sass (c) the future development would be in the beck area of the farm near the woodlote. (d) sans (a) same (f) Our permit to operate is granted by the Health Department sad wader such we aunt meet their requirements and specifieetlons. At times these cheese and also the facilities in the camping units shags with tits addition of self. contained facilities. Our Health Deportment does very thorough and eeeplete check-ups and advises on al! setters of this nature. (g) saws (h) U. have tried to develop good roads - but the section of graveled road sleet - and crossing Willow Creek wee there at the time we Forehand the fare and is necessary to allow w to have atones to our bach field. Shoes this was here at the tine of purchase we have always used it and always will need tots get • machinery over to now or harvest. We hem included this area in the new district just to even out the pepsrty. (I) saw (3) same , . 1 . 010 (3) seas • (d) same (7) sass (I) saes • 2 E CO) eareelllstls. a eta is t o itt s with a 1St ly e sorer Se Oaaada et St ter least.♦m aaa. la do ease to weds to quatity Sa s erder6rg to air ti oat a •/rkt. Alas senrip sll asapeeatads 3 o operate soil eeauoo tier S ado a! Sir asataaaea as a nasal tart .1 S ' = a • apsratte. Very tear a! Sea. pap their fait do °help to heap the swiss.. > G d . g(saer) hem. 4a e . sad la -. beep them la the ere. lanes* to to aad awe aeate.er •2 F, • eh* ease hero ttrr. Y r • • IS vault tiles to lest tssvard to die she .Asa va said see spssaa ear as a saslassa that said stab a easel tally salt ea a fell•tlas lasts. *ea tried Item tad era Arad at Set has bees aesesesitiMA es tar. Joss & Clash leader 1 • 1 j • • • MINUTES OF THE MEETING TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD APRIL 18, 1973 TIME AND PLACE: A special meeting of the Planning Board was held at 7:30 p .m. , Wednesday, April 18, 1973 at the Ulysses Town Office Building. PRESIDING : John V. Tyrell, Chairman BOARD MEMBERS: Present : Absent : Winton Baines • Alec Proskine Jack Giroux ! David Langley Thomas Gell! Thomas Gorman OTHERS PRESENT: Bruce Payne, Town Supervisor Mrs . Arlee Robinson, Enforcement Officer Dr. Gelenczei, Babcock Industries • Mr. Thomas McCoy, Babcock Industries NEW BUSINESS: Secretary •/ Thomas Gell was appointed Secretary. Babcock Industries Dr. Gelenczei and Mr. McCoy submitted an applica- , tion for building permit to construct a new warehouse and conference room in authorized planned development district #2. A motion was made by Winton Baines, seconded • by Jack Giroux, that the Planning Board recommend to the Town Board that this permit be issued . Mrs . Robinson will advertise for a public hearing to be held on May 4, 1973 . Folders The. Chairman suggested that each board member obtain a folder to keep zoning map, zoning 1 ordinance and other material pertaining to board business . Distribution of Minutes A motion was made by Thomas Gell, seconded by 1 Winton Baines, that minutes of Planning Board meetings be mailed to each member and to the Town Supervisor. .0 Agenda , Agendas will be distributed prior to each meeting. jet 2 NEW BUSINESS: Mobile Homes (Continued ) A motion was made by Winton Baines, seconded by Thomas Gell that the Planning Board recommend to the Town Board that the title "Mobile Home .. Ordinance" be changed to read "Mobile Home Park Ordinance" . Carried, three in favor, one ; abstaining. '• • A motion was made by Jack Giroux, seconded by Winton Baines, that this Board recommend to E E the Town Board the following changes in the th �zoning ordinance: Article V, Section 21(a ) the last sentence be e a changed from "Mobile homes are permitted only . —o n in planned development districts, duly authorized s zi and licensed by the Town Board" to "Mobile homes o d are permitted only in mobile home parks duly 2 2 authorized and licensed by the Town Board" . �° Y Article I, Section 1 (y) be changed to include the definition of mobile home as defined in the mobile home ordinance . . Mobile home ordinance Section 3 be changed to correct the fee from $20.00 to $2.00. Members not p:nsent will be phoned and advised of the above action before recommendations are submitted to the Town Board . OTHER BUSINESS: Suggest to the Town Board that the zoning ordinance booklet be changed to a loose leaf style utilizing supplements for updating. Board members to be furnished with a semi-permanent type binding. I NEXT MEETING: This board will hold regular quarterly meetings on the first Thursday of January, April, June, and October and will hold special meetings when called by the Chairman . The next meeting will be called for 7:30 p.m. Thursday, June 7, 1973 at the Town Hall. ADJOURNMENT: Meeting adjourned 11:07 p.m. Respectfully submitted, v-55CC ��fib- —4 Thomas E. Gell ill / ; Secretary , Iliiiiiisammitainnsiskims. ' : ... . . , l6g. • BUILDING PLo r PLAN FoR WAREHOUSE, SCALE 16/ : a' :® li. r V r > .".11% -- . v - 4. 20 .7 r — �- o o p 6r . 3 3 • . . i • rn _ An 0u • . . . c • 4. • • • i if D N o o 0 • 9� o m p .. . . vat 3 fi � m • d O(�f1 • cri r • J• Ob L . �. Op f 3N •• . 2 , • . , TOWN OF ULYSSES • ' ,APPLICATION FOR BUILDING PERMIT • Application Date . __----.-_-_ . Permit Number _________ • Fee; $5.00 Date Make checks payable to Town of Ulysses Parcel Number Return application to: Zoning District Application is hereby made to (build El, extend ❑, convert ❑, 0) a structure or use land at G••t n e •, c c. Co‘.c 4,E-2)-....c.. Ua. 4- V3/4-.k__16........— Rd., Town of Ulysses, N. Y. b To be used for ____u.'“:-‘1^-.-,e— «� cL Cc,t.-Frr en e.�.Spr.rn_--- -- At a cost of -C �° 37291-' , • �, Structure is to be completed on or before �,t�,,l :N4 l______ __._____ _, 18�s3.— — ___ Owner of land _As,s • - C3,.S_. C.s.c.en r-t:• ev", Builder Sal :r.c.S__i a_ 14ty G:•,c,„4-.7.0s. A Land Owner's mailing address __a^�S_ sn i1L�--)--N.c -__� 12i'-' _ _ __ __ ___ __�_ • • ° If building is being built for a person other than present land owner, show name e 0 The structure (s) will be as follows: • Square Feet Floor Area: m °, Type of construction rai=s.3_ . _,_w-.-nQ s .-.Yl••1 Basement - > 75 Number of stories - ...�_� First Floor _eZ36 _—- ____ _ p• e Number of Family Units _ 0 Second Floor Percentage of Lot to be occupied Over Second ._._._ x by all structures __ __3S- •/e -. Plot Plan on Back of Permit -.---_. or Attached ..X•-_ The required permits have been obtained as follows: Date Issued ' FROM TOMPKINS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT Approval of septic system and/or well _ L? 3 7 — FROM TOWN CLERK _ - -.Y ® Street opening (if road must be opened for pipes) _ N - Blasting permit (if blasting necessary) _ FROM SUPERVISOR Water Tap ____ -- ---------- W____ ._�_�___ District Sewer Tap District FROM PROPER HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT Culverts and driveways -- ---.----- • FROM TOWN ZONING OFFICER Multiple residence permit • The Undersigned hereby applies for permission to do the above accordant ith provisions of the Zoning Ordinance and other Laws and Regulations of the Tow• .. p ly:seel-Nemo% ork, or others having jurisdiction, and affirms that all statements and informatio.($+ =n A: ei o ect to the best of his knowledge and belief. �,��/ / ', �i/ •Date: Ji e_vi 1L. l 18 J. K_— d- Sig :ture of Landowner. Building permit ( ) approved by Progress of work.''ecked on: • • ( ) denied under Section _._._-_._ of the Zoning Ordinance Foundation by Appeal action: Framing • Date of appeal _._.. — Date of hearing _ _.__ __-- _ — Trim Date of advertising --- _ _---_ Completion Board members notified P - •••-•--•----•— -- Order to refill excavation issued on ___ Order to demolish structure • Issued on Expenses of Appeal to be born by applicant. jg 1b14. • PLOT PLAN • INFORMATION TO BE SHOWN: • • Dimensions of lot. Dimensions of structures. . Distance of Structure from: Names of neighbors who bound lot. Road, Set-back of neighbors. Both side lot lines, • North Arrow. ( , '• Rear of lot. Street name and number. • Other Structures • Show existing structures in contrasting lines. - • Floor and Room Plan Show floor dimensions and indicate use of each room. • • • • _. • • • • • • • • • • • • IV • ,..4 ''.� t'!/ A > I _' •. / 13p,TTC'Ek`? RooM t _i\EVRIG..1Zocr t^' A a . . .> I, % Cr 0g 1 coal • , • • �� ..,9 0 C c.... \W G •..D.J N w 36' •••••F.1 •...._.. ._ _... ..._..__..._...._. . ag• . .. _....__; .>4. q'_---> . 1 t StOSi. _.......,` ._ ! %, • to � 4 ... p • ..,r . y �JO ROGtfl • i - . . COS1)FERE.IICF . . Room.... `( . — • �i w� ..'- . . g. . • ( / • (Loori\ _ V b _ _ V . tag • MUTES OF THE MEETING ' TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD NOVEMBER 30, 1972 • TIME AND A special meeting of the planning board held at 8:00 P.M. PLACE Thursday, November30, 1972, in the Ulysses Town Office Building. PRESIDING Mr. Gerald Ehrhart, Chairman, Town of Ulysses Planning Board, presided. Board Present: Absent: MEMBERS Gerald Ehrhart Jack Giroux Winton Bain David Langley • John Tyrell Alec Proakine Thomas Gorman Quorum Yes • BUSINESS Application for a planned developement district submitted by Mr. Bruce Robinson was not processed at the last meeting, action was postponed in order to • study further the requirements as outlined in the revised Zoning Ordinance. Ill • Application, after discussion and review, deemed to have met the requirements. MOTION Motion was made, seconded and carried to approve said application. Motion Motion was made, seconded and carried to submit recommendation to the Town Board regarding the revised Zoning Ordinance. Recommendations to be itemized and presented at a later date. • ADJOURNMENT Meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m. /Z. John V. Yyrell, Secretary cc Bruce Payne IMMEMOMMEL 4. V A-- C-9,, • . • Bruise Robinson . Cold Springs Road •• • Tumanebug� N. Y. R.D.3 ' • Nov. 2� 1972 •' • • Ta the. Dlyesess Town Board 'and ' To the Town of Ulysses Planning Boards • This is a request for the placement of a Mobile Nome on property owned by • me'and located on the Swamp College Rd. I. submit 'the'enolosed plan, as •required in Seotion•7b-Art, a and b and Section 21•of the revised Zoning eo a o Ordinance of the Town of Ulysses. a m • Y F Sincerely . BPuoe Robinson • • • ` i .• •r • RE EF' ;. ,..' • • : NOV 4 1972 • TOWN'OF ULYSSES' • i� . �. ib . . . , • .. • '\'-I , -, :. .. . • . . ' 1 . . W . k . MAtLKS 1 •. . .. Z.' avRwt; c.004 , cc • • •. a ._. .'.._ _a.. 5w�w.... cats t • • -0 416'4 •. .. +i,. c:-Aovp oP 6onne.t.C� - INE'►. . . i 0 �© • : ©"e X . ttac v F%F.� t. ■ '.�,�3 th641 - ..__. f J • C::: _ .. r._-, (. ,ate . . - • . . :.Q. W,cc%%%. rte • \© j .CO% & 0.44' a . • d ir J . . asp D • ' 0 '1` OV6k Nu- floor Saner. ■ J. .. . . 10. ✓ ' • ✓ • ��! x el /.3 0 . _ .. . ' . . .. / s . ex bgyLo u-n ,t . o f� 'F • 93G' ` y9 � ' s • .__O -ro . :._ I v-R-C ` G SW t .aC - co 6.1:•EG E. ._ C.�b ' "c 0 t\A� S`i v ` . "ii•- ••. TOWN OF ULYSSES • _ Trumansburp,.N.Y. 14886 1'J • ® ® BRUCE M. PAYNE, Supervisor H. WILLIAM SMITH, Councilmen ALICE CONOVER, Cork FREDERICK ALLEN, Councilmen E. RICE, Justice 607-387-8601 DANA POYER, Justice DECEMBER 26, 1972' • LEGAL NOTICE OF • PUBLIC HEARING • QE Please take notice that the Planning Board of the Town of Ulysses I will hold a Public Heating Wednesday, January 10, 1973 at 7: 30 P. M. c o at the Ulysses Town Office Building, 10 Elm Street, Trumansburg, N. Y. , Z5 regarding the request of Bruce Robinson to place a Mobile Home on O 2 property owned by Bruce Robinson, and located on Swamp College Road, in • 2 b the Town Of Ulysses. . oa ' YF By order of the Town Board of Ulysses. , in Alice B. Conover, Town Clerk December 26, 1972 ' • • • . • r. ". . • • . • /n % .., P, 2y- 0 .e-4ar ite. PITHti ,vo^/ /3Ua,.d, 170 a tr its ha «. 4' 4--)c.0 - 77,140h S(iv cJ. C?,..,etirltuE C.) 7: 115 ' •Q W4 tug /a 0-- Jr hilLt f • T B(LLA 11Lon '� d v e� m.1) �otithe o-sd, 44-11 .cI 714„4,, . ° . a idA {- • • • • ,,,�,,�, 1 ILA/ h. f' `�.�..0-.; r a Z, fir: if�-�r A tAmi a-curgfit eigat-"At . Of &kJ Att....4-ingrimito.la vie-on fr 4.„,..�v4.4. r -rtrs.____..-----) ' a Ill TOWN OF ULYSSES 10 ELM STREET I,' TRUMANSBURO, N.Y. 148136 ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD . MINUTES ` 21 April 1982 ' g Meeting called to order at 7:35 p.m. in Town Hall by Chairman k E James Warren. Other Planning Board members present: Budd Stover Webb Fiser, Burel Lane, Roger Williams and Seville Reulein, Jr. , Also present: Thomas Ferretti, Zoning Officer. e 0 w th ;. The various items originally proposed by Gary Evans for the W 6 - review of the Zoning Ordinance were briefly discussed. The C e Board decided to wait for concrete proposals from Mr. Gary 2 b Evans on some of the items. It was also decided that the Town Y Board should be asked whether or not the Planning Board should develop sub-division regulations. The meeting was adjourned at 9: 00 p.m. it/Aa4 A j 4At;` ys • k Webb S. Fiser, secretary • ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD • . . •. TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD MINUTES 12 October 1981 Planning Board Chairman James Warren called the meeting to order at 7: 40 p.m. in the Town Hall. Also present: Planning Board members Thomas Gorman, Buret Lane and Webb Fiser; absent: Winton Baines, Robert Weatherby, and Budd Stover, The Woodens were also present. Topic of the meeting: Application of James Wooden,et.al. ,Podunk Road, to establish a Development District at Terrell Road, Trumansburg, for the purpose of installing a mobile home. The discussion between the Board and the Woodens centered on the issue of whether the use of a Development District for a single mobile home corresponded to the letter and intent of the Zoning Ordinance. There was also extensive discussion of whether or not the home in question could qualify as a "pre-built" home. The Board unanimously authorized the Chairman to submit the attached report to the Town Board. The meeting adjourned at 8: 30 p.m. �1'�J WEBB -Oa-c- /a/ S Planning Board • Secretary t.. �' 11 /13 TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD Meeting - 12 October 1981 ® The Town of Ulysses Planning Board, having met to consider the proposal by James Wooden et,al. Podunk Road, Trumansburg, to • establish a Development District at Terrell Road, Trumansburg, for the purpose of installing a mobil home, finds the following: WHEREAS: Article VI, Section 9, of the Ulysses Zoning Ordinance, though stating that "mobilehomes are permitted only in g g a mobil home park or a development district" ► does not support the establishment of a development g E • district with one mobile home as it's sole constituent. WHEREAS: the Planning Board understands that the development fl district is intended to allow those unforseen types of activity which, though not specifically permitted by the _ 0 a , Zoning Ordinance, would be of benefit to the community, M b and that the installation of mobile homes has been Y F forseen in the drafting of the Zoning Ordinance and they have been restricted to mobile home parks or development districts, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED: that the Planning Board, having found that the proposed development district does not meet the criteria established for the creation of a development district, recommends that the Ulysses Town Board deny approval of the proposed district. The Planning Board suggests that, given the size of the unit the Woodens are considering, its type of construction, and exterior appearance, that this structure be looked at as a "pre-built" home, and be viewed as' comparable to a modular home. In discussion between the Chairman of the Planning Board and Mr. Golder, Town Attorney, it was agreed that certain specific requirements designed to distinguish modular homes from mobile homes (e.g. arrival in sections) probably reflected the "state of the art" at the time the ordinance was drafted and may no longer adequately distinguish a "pre-bult" home from a mobile home. • /Respectfully submittedi /S/ l f)/oc.�J�a_� �AMES P. WARREN • Chairman, Planning Board • i nit TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD 15 April 1980 !' Meeting called to order at 7: 30 p.m. in Town Hall. Members present: ;• Winton Baines, Burel Lane, Budd Stover, James Warren, Thomas Gorman, ® .j John Huttar, Robert Weatherby; also present: Supervisor Bruce M. Payne, A. Beers. The first order of business was the selection of officers for the Planning Board. Mr. Warren was selected as chairman, Mr. Weatherby as vice-chairman and Mr. Huttar as secretary. The next item of business was the consideration of the Town Zoning map and the Official Town map. Mr. Payne had provided the Board with road name changes which should be incorporated on the two maps - which would not necessarily be the same for each map. One question was asked - Falls Street within the village - is it officially maintained by the village as a dead-end street? (The Planning Board will be advised that Falls Street is a village maintained dead-end street) . - Mr. Lane moved the Planning Board approve the changes for the Zoning map as well as the changes for the Official Town Map. Mr. Baines seconded the motion, voted and carried. (copy of changes required attached. ) The Town Board will have to schedule a public hearing for the changes to the Official Town map. The meeting then adjourned for a short period of time. • Mr. Warren re-convened the meeting at 8:15 p.m. in the Town Hall. Present: Planning Board members Winton Baines, Burel Lane, Thomas W Gorman, John Huttar, Robert Weatherby and Mr. Warren. Absent: Mr. Stover. Mr. Warren asked the Board to consider the application of Beach and Catherine Stover for a Planned Development District on their property located on Gorge Road. Supplied with the Stover application was a map, and Environmental Assessment form, a sound level report submitted by the Cornell Cooperative Extension Safety Engineer, and petitions favoring the District signed by 343 residents or property holders in the Township. After considerable discussion of the application the Board decided it needed more information relative to the application. Mr. Gorman moved the following: That the Planning Board direct Mr. and Mrs. Stover to provide accurate scale drawings and descriptions of the proposed buildings in the District, the proposed use of such buildings the exact location of such buildings within the proposed District, and the proposed access roads to such buildings, such information as required ny the Town Zoning Ordinance for Planned Development Districts. Jill Ulysses Planning Bd 4-15-80 p2 171 I ' Mr. Weatherby seconded the motion, voted and carried unanimously. The Planning Board then decided a public meeting should be set, after l the additional material is available to them, with the following ' persons present: members of the Planning Board, Mr. and Mrs. Stover and their attorney Wally Wiggins, Mt. and Mrs. John Gill and their attorney, Martin Luster the Town Attorney Arthur Golder, Jr. , and Gary Evans of the Tompkins County Planning Board. Meeting then adjourned at 10 p.m. drier r g OHN HUTTAR, sec. • C c. a c) ▪ a O 6.. 2 • • • aY i.i r, c. i 17b TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD 15 May 1980 Planning Board met in Town Hall at 7: 30 p.m. Present: James Warren, Burel Lane, Tom Gorman. Absent: Winton Baines, Robert Weatherby John Rutter, Present but abstaining: Budd Stover, who disqualified himself in the Stover case per his letter to Bruce M. Payne, Supervisor, dated 14 April 1980. Also present: Carl Cox, Zoning Officer, Earl Richer, Virginia Burns, John Gill, Seville Reulein, Mr. and Mrs. Beach Stover, their attorney Wally Wiggins, as well as others. (Mr. Martin Luster, attorney for John Gill, came in late. Purpose of the meeting: for the Planning Board to discuss between its members only the Stover request for a"proposed Authorized Development District", dated 8 April 1980. Mr. Warren stated at the opening of the meeting that this was not a Public Hearing and that those Board members present could discuss the proposal among themselves. He also regretted the fact that the full Board was not present. No action was taken. Meeting adjourned at 8: 30 p.m. 61 A. Beers, acting sec. ' • • IV/ 1• TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD NOTES 17 June 80 ` Present: riser, Warren, Lane, Weatherby, Gorman (A Beers) V. ® _ • items to—Consider—in recommendation to TownEoarb - -- -•--1. treatment_(of -poste) precautions rot -drainage systems,•--it•--• I. • • • - type of treatment in accordance with DEC requirements I .Z.- naisei recommend power source be moved to east aide -- "- of sawmill shed or within building; get clarification -- - — - - of power Smarter recommend planting of -trees letwean --___- •'- - sawmill building and property line 3. recommend entrance road be located 75 feet from • property llne- - _ _ _ - .._._ ... _ _ -_- .._ ........... . o a - --- --PB -considering only'-present-'-building structures 'and noise -level •• > t, . ; G or,. ----•---- —Warren asked Mr •-Fiser-to`act as-secretary -of•FB re:-minutes °-- ------- : • 2 % --_ __-- I Arrange public meeting (more or less) for 30 June with Mr. xi- Stover present . _____ - ._.- _ • • AD I: i TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD Minutes 30 June T980 Planning Board Chairman James Warren called meeting to order at 8 p.m. in the Town Hall. Also present: Planning Board members Burel Lane, Robert Weatherby, Thomas Gordman, Webb Finer, absent - Winton Baines. Member Budd Stover had previously disassociated himself from decisions of the Board relative to the Stover Development District - which was the subject of this meeting. Also present: M. Beach Stover, Catherine Stover, Budd Stover, their attorney Walter Wiggins, John Gill, Elaine Gill, their attorney, Martin Luster. Topic of the meeting: application for a Development District requested by M. Beach and Catherine Stover, submitted 8 April 1980. Mr. Warren read through the proposal in its entirety. Questions, comments • and discussion occured at various points. In response to a question from Mr. Lane, Mr. Stover said there would be no chemical discharge or odor from the lumber treatment process proposed. Mr. Stover also said that there would be an enclosed power unit for the saw mill but was unable to say when it would be ready. He also asserted that present equipment sales were very small, that there were no plans to extend the sales operation. There will be no show room or display area. There was discussion of means of reducing the noise level and improving the aesthetics of the operation. A wood barrier is apparently immediately possible. A planting of evergreens by the Stovers along the Gill property lines was acceptable to all. It was agreed that there should be some • limitation on the hours of operation. Also, log storage should be at least 75 feet from both the property lines and the road. Also, both the buildings • and the access road should be 75 feet from the property lines. Mr. Luster stated that permitting the operation opens the door to commercial and light industrial activities in other residential areas. In particular he felt that the Stover operation had a negative impact on the quality of the neighborhood. The Gills have a property appraisal indicating a substantial reduction in the value of their property. After discussion of the relation of the proposal to the criteria specified in the Zoning Ordinance, a motion was made by Mr. Lane and seconded by Mr. Weatherby that the Planning Board approve the Stover proposal subject to • the restrictions and limitations discussed during the meeting. The motion passed unanimously. It was agreed that the Chairman would write the report • to the Town Board and would seek the approval of the report from the individual members of the Planning Board before submitting it to the Town Board. The first Tuesday of each month was set as the regular meeting day of the Planning Board, beginning 5 August 1980. The meeting �-adjourned at 10: 55 p.m. ALA. , Webb S. Finer Secretary i — Jf1/.,4ICaecdr.P4e-At-dar vn__ ..a.:4rx4w4,512vicett,. -» -u4d� ' -_,dam' ;a' .,.-'�_4*• 4t.P, 4/_4.214144 , ..___ — . 9/3•CAmast_t3c244 h.144.1144A Aik, . i 6.- . 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Payne, Council- • men William Agard Robert Herrick, William Smith, J. Frederick Allen; Town Attorney Arthur Golder Jr; Town• Zoning Officer Mary S. • Slade; • Planning Board members David Langley, chairman, John Mutter, James Warren, Winton Baines. Absent: Town Clerk Marilyn Ough, Planning Board members• Thomas Gall, Robert Weatherby, Thomas Gorman. Also present A Beers, sec. pro-tem. Mr. Payne called meeting to order at 7: 30 p.m. in Town Hall. The purpose of the meeting was to permit the Town Attorney Golder to delineate for the Planning Board members scope of functions of that body. Mr. Payne turned the meeting over to Mr. Golder. Mr. Golder opened his remarks with an explanation of the State "open meetings law" as revised on October 1, 1979, indicating the Planning Board could discuss certain matters in an "executive session" but that no decisions could be made at such a session but must be made during a public meeting. Mr. Golder also advised the group that the Planning Board was not required to reach a decision on any case•before them on a "time limit" basis but that they could defer decision on a case until they had had an opportunity to study in greater detail the ramifications of a case where they believed this to be warranted. Mr. Langley iterated the various questions the Planning Board had to consider in reaching • determination. One of these was "personal need" • of an applicant vs the "community need". Mr. Golder said the Planning Board could always request permission from the Town Board to seek and hire professional help in determining a Planning Board decision. He also expounded on the legal requirements for an environmental impact statement under provisions of the' Stats law AVAn +hn,rnh Ft... • • ` • Y 11-5-79 lit • NOTES JOINT MEETING between Frank Liguori, Gary Evans and Harry Missirian of • County Planning office, Bruce M. Payne, William Agard, J. Frederick Allen of • Ulysses Town Board, Mary Slade, Ulysses Zoning Officer, Carl Cox, deputy ' Zoning Officer, Arthur Golder, Jr. Town Attoryney , A. Beers, sec for Town ® Board and BZA. Mr. Liguori opened discussion relative to Beach Stover request for a Planned Development District for his property on Gorge Road. He outlined • restrictions which might apply to property in question re the Stover request, • saying it was the County Planning Board' s opinion the property would fall under the Type I action of SEQR which would possibly require an environmental impact statement since the land area in question is 80 acres. He said they a c believed a smaller tract of land involved in the request would be better. z The County office personnel visited the site, found locations on the 80 • S a • acres which they believed more suitable for the location of the mill itself, that they believed the mill could be moved without great expense, that the current mill site, while not really a wetlands area, was of the kind to be 0 2 considered nearly so. q o, -' ' Mr. Evans said alternate locations were possible on the 80 acres which would G d satisfy all parties concerned and the Town could make a statement that an 4 g environmental impact statement would no longer be needed - if acreage Y � " smaller that the 80 in the request could be used. • The Planning Board believed the best solution would be to work with Stover for another location of the mill, but still allow the operation to continue. It might be best for the Town to suggest meeting with Stover to select a new site which would eliminate the complaints of the Gills. • Questioned about the rest of the operations Stover listed in his application, . ® • Mr. Liguori said they did not consider that - just the saw mill operation. Mr. Golder asked how big the entire operation should be, indicating the application was such that the business operation in addition to the saw mill could expand to another Ag-way type. It was the concensus that the Town Board would have to establish limits as to the extent of the entire operation to be permitted. The County Planning Board will help Stover prepare a site plan for the relocation of the saw mill, that the 80 acre request needs to be cut down . to size - a few acres. Mr. Golder said the Town Planning Board and the Town Board could (and should) ask for specific definitions of the proposed business activity. The approach should be made through Mr. Stover' s attorney. Mr. Missirian said the Town and Planning Board should view the matter with the future development of the area in consideration; that the Town Board should consider this in relation to the rest of the acreage in the Town. Mr. Payne suggested Mr. Golder contact the Stover attorney for steps to be taken to resolve the problem. Mr. Liguori said a time limit of say 6 months could be set for the resolution of the problem and site relocation. ® All agreed that there is a need in the County and the Town for a saw mill operation. Mr. Liguori aaid action might not satifv Gills but will give the Town legal backing for its action. Mgt. Golder is to raft a letter to be sent to Stover. • 1 - �r�� lysee � s1ri:.r:ic,: _oa, c' `^l4;1 Aju11 7 , 1 't:2 Uv ® t. ;. r-tin - cellro tc. oru' at 1 :4: ? ., by Chair•r,ar. dawee (the: ilar:ni:." zos:'d i.. be rs p:'ese;.t: tuud Stover, :.obcrt hc-t:tnc : ty . .. .r' 1 L.ar.'' . Also presr- rit : iruee rayru- , hlllif+_. 3,:est Jlieai '•:' : vh:y _vans , .o,apkins '_o,+:ity _epartrent or to present material on _loo, plain :.appirrY a::c �nsurr:,,c.c , anc: Z.abdivision eaulation. • • ; low, etc . r.lstory : the rederal government , finding that it had been both providing r .::.r_. f.tuding for construction in some areas prone to flooding and rederal relief after • iflooding occurred ,begat_ considering means to discourage building in such flood hazard areas. The 1972 flooding • caused by hurricane Agnes precipitated the establishment of a federally subsidized flood insurance program. The initial , emergency subsidy program provided made flood insurance available to all property owners in a designated municipality , but at a uniform rate which ignores actual risk at a given site . it was intended that further , detailed mapping would identify specific flood risk areas , and that these areas would then be subject to various restrictions in the • zoning orainance. kith building in these areas restricted , Ulysses woulo be able to participate in the 'regular' flood insurance program, and all those properties out- side of the identifies hazard areas would have reduces flood insurance rates . 'Today : The initial mapping of the Town of Ulysses was completed a number of years ago. However, federal funding for further mapping , according to Gary Lvans , .. appears to have run out, with many municipalities- Ulysses included- not having detailed maps. In order for Ulysses to benefit from the reduced rates which would be available to many residents under the regular program the Town must either produce a map of its own, iaentifying flood hazard areas , or contract with an engineering firm for detailed surveying and mapping. Gary Evans suggested that the increased accuracy of a detailed map would not justify the cost to the Town for an outside consultant. Gary indicated that an approximate map could be prepared by the County Flanning -,apartment from information alreaay gathered and that this • - - \ -2- map would be sufficient as a basis for the restriction ill • of building in flood hazard areas. The Board asked G.Evans to procede with the drawing • of an approximate map for the Town of Ulysses. Subdivision: G. Evans- The power to review subdivisions hres been specifically delegated to Municipalities by the state. On the state level , subdivision is regulated through 1 ) the N.Y.S. Health Lept. , ii ) the . .E.C. , and iii) the eal Propert Law ( regulating subdividers) . At the county level, the Tompkins County health dept . el does have a set of subdivision regulations , but these c o are concerned with matters of environmental health -am e .g. water supply , waste disposal. These regulations . s Zt., apply only to subdivisions with lots of less than five Ciu acres. a Y o_ Kunicipalities , being charged with a concern for the public health, safety, and general well being, may adopt regulations requiring municipal review of proposed • subdivisions. Such review may involve a number of considerations such as general layout, drainageways , existing character of the neiahborhoocl , and compatability with any municipal comprehensive plan. Gary :vans stated that a good set of model subc:ivision regulations has bcci; published by the Statc of i..ew York , with a step-by-step guide i'o. their adcption. .:;a.. y comae nted that ;;lysses and the tillage of 2rumansburg are the only zoned municipalities in the county which have not adopted subdivision regulations. It was suggested that the Ulysses Town Board discuss this topic at their next meeting. Motion to adjourn- n. Weatherby . Second- B. Lane . l':eetinw adjourned 9: 15 Pi.. Respectfully submitted , James Warren, Chmn. Ulysses Planning board J1. • WIGGINS, TSAPIS, COLDER AND HOLMBERG S4/01.144-11 ATTORNICY0 AND cOUNa6LOR0 AT LAW 300 NORTH TIOOA OTRGCT ITHACA, N. Y. HUS1 TKLZPHONt ••••LTCM J.WIOOINL • �~ ANLEY TOAPI■ 11 �1.bT •�, (ARIA 0000 OD>I �'•iattAYtMc v a t) APIs HUR J.001.01CR.JR. ITHAOA AR 18•111040 LAURA H.HOLMOERU • TRUMANPOURO 8•7.O6111 '1 DAVID S.CERAM : I IJ•� 1 7�j1. 1972 •I JAM[O M.KiRRIOAN . MK( 2/ 1971 . March 22, 1972 WIR CE ULYSSES • • Mr. Bruce Payne Supervisor, Town of Ulysses Town Offices • Trumansburg, New York • Re: Planning Board and Amendment of Zoning Ordinance • Dear Bruce: . • At our meeting on March 14, 1972, two questions were left with me for . • research, as follows: 1) the procedure for the appointment of members to the 'arming Board and their terms; and 2) the exact procedure for amending the • ..oning ordinance. With reference to the Planning Board, Town Law Section 271 governs the procedure. It provides that the Town Board may appoint a Planning Board of 5-7 members . If there are five members, they are appointed for terms of office as follows: 1 member, term of office 1 year • • 1 member, term of office 2 years 1 member, term of office 3 years 1 member, term of office 4 years 1 member, term of office 5 years and successors are appointed for five year terms . If there are seven members, the scheme is the same: the 6th member is appointed for 6 years , and the 7th for 7 years, and the successors are appointed for 7 year terms .. • As a vacancy occurs, other than by expiration of office, the Town Board fills the unexpired term. Neither the Town Supervisor nor a Town Councilman • may be on the Planning Board. • 4 • -2- • • With regard to the decisions made by the Planning Board during the time they were serving expired terms, Section 5 of the Public Officers Law reads as • follows: "Every officer. . . .shall. . . .hold over and continue to discharge the duties • of his office, after the expiration of the term for which he shall have been chosen, until his successor shall be chosen and qualified." "An appointment for a term = shortened by reason of a predecessor holding over, shall be for the residue of $ the term only." Co The validity of Planning Board action taken while a member was "holding • aover" after his term had expired was upheld in Waters v. Connor, 11 Misc. 2d o d • 174, 169 NYS 2d 526. It appears, therefore, that Planning Board actions can be 2 2 assumed to be valid. fia I would suggest that the expired terms be immediately filled and that a • resolution be passed by the Town Board confirming the action taken by the Planning Board during the expired period involved. • The procedure to amend the zoning ordinance is governed by Town Law • oection 264, and is as follows: • • r I A . 10 days' notice of time and place of hearing published in paper of general circulation in the town. B. Written notice of any proposed change or amendment affecting property within 500 feet of the boundaries of any city, village, town, county, state park or parkway to the regional state park commission with Jurisdiction over state park or parkway; in case of a city, village or town to the clerk, in • the case of a county to the clerk of the board of supervisors at least 10 days • prior to the hearing. II Public hearing Entered in minutes of Town Board. III Publication in newspaper published in town or county (Town Board designates) of amendment (but not maps). • IV Posting of amendment and any map incorporated therein on sign board maintained by town clerk. • Affidavits of publication and posting filed with town clerk. VI . Ordinance to take effect 10 days after publication and posting. • If we plan to have a public informational meeting prior to the required public hearing, I suggest that we take steps to immediately set up that meeting and to give at least 10-20 days' notice in the newspapers and news media to all residents that the zoning ordinance has not been completed and is available for inspection, together with the proposed map. You should also tell them where this can be done and I would assume that the meeting room of the Town Hall would be appropriate. Finally, I am enclosing herewith the mobile home ordinance which appears to be in order. • I think it would be appropriate for us to discuss the manner in which I will be billing the T.awn for the services rendered, and the rates of pay. Please give me a call at your convenience for this'purpose. Kincest regards, I remain Respectfully yours, if • STANLEY TSAPIS • ST:mp . • • • • . MM 2.3m72 • • Tvwu Sri: 4':.Y•ytF. • • • • • l • • TOWN of ULYSSES 10 ELM STREET • TRUMANBBURO, N.Y. 1413B6 I 23 June 1983 Mr. Roger J. Williams 1843 Trumansburg Road Jacksonville, New York c o O '^ To co Dear Roger: 7 U o. g Be advised that the Ulysses Town Board has accepted , ZS your resignation from the Planning Board with regret. . Y.�° Please accept the Town Board' s appreciation for your efforts in behalf of the Town. Sincerely, ® : sO RICHARD E. BACKER Supervisor b/b ) • 1 C id '.._ l1wr . . . aninsi ael , TOWN OF ITh A►CA 126 EAST SENECA STREET ITHACA, NEW YORK e . ;aso March 9 , 1983 Marilyn E. Ough ' Town Clerk Town of Ulysses Box 446 Trumansburg, NY 14886 • Re: Positive Declaration of Environmental Significance for Revisions to Town of Ithaca Subdivision Regulations Dear Affected Agency: • • On March 15 , 1983 , the Planning Board of the Town of Ithaca resolved that the proposed revision of the Town Subdivision Regulations was an environmentally significant Type I action under the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) and that a Draft Environmental Impact Statement should be ' prepared in conjunction with the proposed revisions . The Planning Board intends to act as the lead agency in this environmental review. You have been identified as an involved or affected agency and the Planning Board would appreciate your cooperation and advice in this review process. Your agency will be be informed prior to a "scoping" session which will be scheduled for later in the spring. If you have any questions regarding this environmental review, • the proposed subdivision regulations, or the Planning Board' s designation as lead agency, please call or write to the Town of Ithaca offices. Sincerely Peter M. Lovi MUM Town Planner . • MAR 101983 SOWN OF ULYSSES 3 ii J-1 . , G.l�c a;..,,, ell. 91,..x.,...-? Jai. c0ry �'� lIl I if SEQR C Positive Declaration Notice of intent to Prepare a Draft EIS • Determination of Significance Lead Agency: Town of Ithaca Planning Board Project 0(if any) Address: 126 East Seneca Street Ithaca, NY 14850 • e Date: March 9 , 1983 O 0 O oP 3, • 1980 • G This notice is Issued pursuant to Part 617 (and local law A if any) of the Imple- 2 A menting regulations pertaining to Article 8 (State Environmental Quality Review) of the Environ• • ea ea mental Conservation Law. The lead agency has determined that the proposed action described below may have a signif- cant effect on the environment and that a Draft Environmental Impact Statement will be prepared. • . N' Title of Action: Revision of the Town of Ithaca Subdivision Regulations • • SEAR Status: .. Type I • Unlisted ❑ • Description of Action: The first comprehensive revision of the Town Subdivision Regulations since their adoption • in 1955. • • k6 Location: (Include the name of the county and town. A location map of appropriate scale is also recommended) Town of Ithaca, Tompkins County • •• C (Attach additional pages as needed) • C•14 • • C . SEQR Positive Declaration Page 2 • Reasons Supporting This Determination: • • This Generic Environmental Impact Statement will enable the Planning Board to consider the comprehensive impact of developments within the Town which would otherwise fall below the thresholds set by SEQRA and Local Law, • #3, 1980. For Further Information: Contact Person: Address: Peter M. Lovi, Town Planner Phone No.: 126 East Seneca St. , Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 273-1747 Copies of this Notice Sent to: ® a Commissloner-Department of Environmental Conservation, 50 Wolf Road, Albany, New York 1 12233-0001 Appropriate Regional Office of the Department of Environmental Conservation Office of the Chief Executive Officer of the political subdivision in which the action will be princi• pally located Main office and appropriate regional office(if any)of lead agency Applicant (if any) All other involved agencies(if any) • Tompkins County Planning Department Tompkins County Health Department Town of Ithaca Zoning Board of Appeals NYS Department of Transportation, Regional Office City of Ithaca • Town of Lansing Village of Lansing Village of Cayuga Heights Town of Dryden Town of Danby Town of Enfield • Town of Ulysses • C( Finger Lakes State Park Commission • i j c:fi5 i ADOPTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD 2/15/83 Page 1 I�' RESOLUTION MAKING A DETERMINATION OF POSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL -e 410 SIGNIFICANCE PURSUANT TO THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT FOR THE REVISION OF THE TOWN OF ITHACA SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WHEREAS: 1. the Planning Board has begun the revision of the present Town of Ithaca subdivision regulations, and 2. the Planning Board has reviewed the long Environmental • E • . Assessment Form, and el 0 3. such revisions are a direct, Type I action as defined by c o SEQRA and Town of Ithaca Local Law #3 - 1980, and ii O1 p , 4. such revisions will have an effect on permitted land uses A within the Town of Ithaca, and bc , ~ 5. a comprehensive environmental assessment should be made prior to the revision of these regulations, and .; 6. the Planning Board should act as the lead agency in this . SEAR review, • THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED THAT: • 1 . The Planning Board declare and hereby does declare that the ' . revision of the subdivision regulations is a Type I action and that a positive declaration of significance shall be filed with the Town Board as an affected agency. • • ® • 8R res 021583 IMAGE EVALUATION -.�� TEST TARGET (MT-3) • rei • Ati; 4 V . • • ., a 2s 2s • (IIII I.� a .s I12.2 III 11111 I.I u. '° lIila ii. YY.. la 11.25 hill 1.4 1111 1.6 , • r 150mm H F , H * \ w ti\\ top S' _ 0 s t /` MICROFILM CORP. C OS n �\ . s . • • Methylene Blue Analysis u s Customer Steuhen ARC � AN � $ 199`' �� 6838 Industrial Park Road • Address Bath. New York 14810 Contact Jacques Begin Month Cc--"1"--A—L- rDt. L< I Telephone j( _ (607) 776-4146 Year \�� Your sample film strip has been tested for archival quality (residual thiosullate concentration). Concentration of less than(<)1.4ug(micrograms)indicates archival quality,and greater than(>)1.4ug indicates non archival quality. Actual test readings are provided below, as well as "pass/fall" check marks. Actual Meets ANSI Standard Does not meet ANSI Standard Concentration (<) 1.4ug t/ (>) 1.4ug Lab Comments: • • • • Dale —1 ' k r • 9 7 Lab Manage -,A� — I MEP Von for • <a 4'0 .. a s, a" s ° a 1 , o• 7 9,)0 �.yC� AdminirtrativeOfficu•6838 (ndustriatTart pad•Bath,New York. 14810 • IS su (607)776.4I46•f607)776.9366•'Bernard Burn, aC( 7• Executive Director • DIESCRIPTION . own UIsws I• ._Ofr &L � . Ks c H . less . . . . . • . . . . ROLL NO . u .. 62 DATE FILM FR _________=an 4.1 • Si- MONTH/DAY/YEAR . SUPERVISOR: �rt...)."./.. Q n CAMERA OPERATOR: WI/MU 111 F Rot. L atARC ante �ses co �� Administrative Office-DWI!n�attriatPark (pad•Bath,9610 york, 14810 47s 9 V (607)776.4146•fat(607)776.9366*Bernard J.Burns,ScutivcDirector