HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013-03-14-AD HOC, ZONING Ad Hoc Zoning Committee
Town of Ulysses
Meeting Minutes
March 14, 2013
Approved 3/28/13
Attendees : Rod Hawkes ( chairperson ), Darby Kiley, Dave Kerness, Rebecca Schneider, Don Wilson
Public : Tim and Betsy Fallon, Lawrence McCann, Cheryl Chalmers, Liz Thomas
Mr. Hawkes called the meeting to order at 7 :00 PM .
Ms . Kiley announced that Don Smith resigned from the committee . The Town Board appointed Dave
Kerness at their meeting on March 12, 2013 .
Mr. Hawkes asked if there were any additions to the agenda : Ms . Kiley would like to discuss Navigation
Law recommendation to the Town Board and that will be discussed last on the agenda .
STREAM SETBACK
Ms . Schneider distributed three handouts : "Crafting a Lake Protection Ordinance" by Karen Cappiella
and Tom Schueler; Appendix 3 : Municipally adopted buffer bylaws, as of 2007 from "Act 110 River
Corridor Management and Lake Shoreland Management Programs" by the VT Department of
Environmental Conservation (found here :
http ://www . leg . state .vt . us/reports/2011ExternalReports/265312 . pdf) and " Lake Management
Jurisdiction, City of Shell Lake, Wisconsin, Zoning Code ."
In the document, "Crafting a Lake Protection Ordinance," Ms . Schneider pointed out the following
sections :
P . 757 A common base width for a shoreline buffer is 75 feet ( Heraty, 1993 ) ,
although widths typically range from 50 to 150 feet . If a lake is used as a source of
drinking water or is very pristine, buffer widths of 200 to 300 feet are often used
( RICRMC, 1994; Standing et al., 1997; Kitchell, this issue) . The base width of a
shoreline buffer should be expanded to include steep slopes or wetlands, or
contracted when pre-existing development is located close to the shoreline .
P . 756 Most communities allow minor alterations along the shoreline to provide
reasonable access and recreational use . For example, most typically allow only one
pier or dock on each frontage lot, along with a limitation on its total length and
extension into the lake (50 feet is common; Standing et al., 1997 ) . This provision
prevents the proliferation of docks from detracting from the scenic character of the
natural shoreline .
P . 758 Allowable uses in the shoreline buffer should be limited to clearing for
shoreline access paths and view corridors . Many communities also permit trails and
passive recreation within the buffer zone . In addition, boathouses and other
accessory structures may be allowed within the buffer, but must be set back at least
25 feet from the shoreline . Some shoreline zoning ordinances also place limits on
the number and square foot area of boathouses and other structures ( Bernthal and
Jones, 1998) .
In Appendix 3 : Municipally adopted buffer bylaws, as of 2007 from "Act 110 River Corridor Management
and Lake Shoreland Management Programs, " Ms . Schneider drew attention to the list with stream
buffer widths, lakeshore buffer widths, and building setbacks from streams or lakes . The building
setback numbers ranged from 25 feet to over 200 feet, averaging more than 75 feet .
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In the zoning code for the City of Shell Lake, Ms . Schneider pointed out that the vegetated buffer is
either 50 or 75 ft and the building setback is either 75 or 100 ft .
Mr. Wilson said that the information presented is consistent and depressing, that everyone would need
to tear down their house to meet these setback requirements . Ms . Schneider reminded him that the
existing houses are grandfathered and these requirements would apply to new construction .
Mr. Wilson provided updated news that the Girl Scout councils have formed a regional group and some
of the camps will be sold, but Camp Comstock is their gem and they are not going to sell and might even
expand the camp ,
Ms . Schneider stated that the committee has discussed stream setbacks at three meetings and would
like to bring it to closure; the town does have zoning in place and if it' s not being enforced , we need a
better fee/fine structure . She suggested three options : keep the existing numbers ( 25/50 feet); widen
the buffer with one standard number; widen the buffer but have impermanent and permanent with
different widths .
Mr. Kerness asked if this would cover streams created by culverts . Ms . Schneider responded that it
would and that other municipalities do not make that kind of distinction .
Mr. Kerness suggested that the three large streams (Taughannock Creek, Willow Creek, and Glenwood
Creek) might benefit from wider buffers but that should be applied for the entire length and not just the
lakeshore district, but that is not the intent right now . On further discussion it was mentioned that land
around Taughannock Creek is owned by the State Parks, Glenwood Creek is surrounded by the Ithaca
Yacht Club, and the land around Willow Creek is all owned by Don Wilson . It seems to be unfair to apply
a wider buffer that would single out one landowner.
Ms. Schneider made a motion, seconded by Mr. Wilson to continue with the existing numbers in the
current zoning: 25 feet for impermanent and 50 feet for permanent streams. All members voted in
favor — motion passed .
LOT SIZE
Ms . Kiley followed -up on the last meeting' s discussion of lot size . Tax maps were distributed that
highlighted which parcels could be subdivided with the existing zoning and with the proposed zoning .
On most of those lots, houses already do exist that would make subdivision difficult under either zoning.
Based on updated numbers, with the current zoning, 5 lots could be subdivided , creating 5 new lots;
with the proposed zoning, 11 lots could be subdivided to create 13 new lots .
The committee discussed why was the one acre originally suggested , and Mr. Kerness' recollection was
that the rationale would encourage development under a controlled environment. The previous
analysis looked at what would happen under different scenarios .
Mr. Wilson made a motion, seconded by Mr. Kerness to keep the lot size at 2 acres. Mr. Kerness
suggested a friendly amendment to also keep the lot width at 250 feet, Mr. Wilson seconded the
amended motion . All members in favor — motion passed .
Driveways/Parking
Mr. Hawkes said that he was not prepared for a full discussion . The draft lakeshore zoning currently
states :
Semi-permeable and permeable surfaces for driveways and parking areas are to be
encouraged to minimize runoff and erosion .
Driveways and parking areas should follow contour lines of the land as much as
possible .
Regrading of slopes for parking areas shall be minimized .
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For safety purposes, parking areas shall be designed and built to avoid the necessity
for drivers to back their vehicles onto Route 89 .
Previous discussions included. limiting impervious walkways but that was separate from the provisions
above . Ms . Schneider said that the intent is to protect the percent of land cleared . If driveway length is
limited, there will be more development right along the road . This discussion will be continued at the
next meeting .
Navigation Law authority
Ms . Kiley stated that in order for the Town to regulate in- lake structures, the Town needs authority
under NYS Navigation Law. That authority comes from the NY State Legislature . The Town would need
to request this authority via the Assembly and Senate representatives . In order to request this before
the end of the legislative session ( in June ), a request needs to be sent sometime in April . The Town
Board asked for this committee' s recommendation on how to proceed . There are three options : ( 1 ) if
this committee recommends that the in - lake structures are not regulated by the town, the next step is
in the town board's control; ( 2 ) the committee could recommend that the town board proceed with
requesting authority as soon as possible; or ( 3 ) the committee could recommend that the town board
wait until the next legislative session, i . e . after completion of the review, but that might mean that if the
zoning changes are adopted , they are not enforceable .
Mr. Wilson asked what the ramifications are of taking on the authority. He started reading through a list
of concerns, such as wildlife issues and toxic spills, and Ms . Kiley read the section of Navigation Law into
which the town wants to be added under Section 46-a ( 2 ), which states that those municipalities listed
"may adopt, amend and enforce local laws, rules and regulations not inconsistent
with the laws of this state or the United States, with respect to the restriction and
regulation of the manner of construction and location of boathouses, moorings and
docks in any waters within or bounding the respective municipality to a distance
of fifteen hundred feet from the shoreline ."
Ms. Schneider made a motion, seconded by Mr. Kerness recommending that the Town Board proceed
to request authority from the NYS Legislature to have authority under Navigation Law to regulated in-
lake structures . All members in favor — motion passed .
NEXT MEETING :
The next meeting will be held on March 28 at 7 :00 PM . The discussion will cover the resident survey,
"driveways and parking areas, " and docks .
The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 36 PM .
Minutes submitted by Darby Kiley.