HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-02-24-LZ TOWN OF ULYSSES
LAKEFRONT ZONING COMMITTEE
02/24/10
APPROVED 03/10/10
NOTE : The audio version of this meeting is on tape available for review at Ulysses
Town Hall, 10 Elm Street, Trumansburg, NY.
Present : Chairperson- Don Smith, Board Members : Krys Cail, Terry Cool, Rod Hawkes,
David Kerness, George Tselekis, John Wertis, Code Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun
Excused : John Wertis
Mr. Smith called the meeting to order at 6 : 58 pm . He stated Mr. Wertis was on vacation
thus would not be in attendance tonight .
1 . Old Business from last meeting-
Review/Approval of minutes-
Mr. Kerness MADE the MOTION, Mr. Hawkes SECONDED the MOTION to approve
the MINUTES of 02/02/ 10 as presented.
THE vote was unanimous, Minutes Approved.
Homework status
Cool-he has prepared information for this meeting
Kerness-he has prepared information for this meeting
Hawkes-Conservation Zone, the last meeting did not happen so not much to report. The
decision to wait until the next meeting for Mr. Hawkes presentation was made.
2 . Alex Rachun-
Mr. Rachun had emailed a response to the members answering their questions . The
members stated they had received the responses and appreciated his effort. He stated
currently there are 45 to 60 permits a year. The lakefront area is 10% of this number.
If zoning is enacted this would increase . The Design Standards would alleviate these
having to come in front of the Planning Board in the new zoning. If the Design Standards
are met then a permit could be issued if this is stated in the zoning allowances.
Currently, DEC regulates the docks, we have to meet but can exceed their requirements .
There is commercial lakefront which is now regulated by DOH, 7 Lakes Girl Scout Camp
Comstock and Bailiwick as well as the Yacht Club are two areas . The Cayuga Inn used to
be commercial but it is now a Residential zoned area.
We do not zone the lake area. Any building within the 387 foot mark but not to the lake it
could be the town ' s, it would have to meet FEMA Flood Zone standards . We have a poor
flood map, it is difficult to read. If he has someone building on or near the lake he has the
engineer send the elevations to him .
Mr. Kerness stated he thought it was less than 99 feet are regulated under DEC
regulations .
Mr. Rachun stated it is also the type, there has to be waterflow under the dock. In
addition, he thought the Sheriff department had some regulatory authority as it is a
navigable waterway.
Mr. Rachun stated "waterward encroachment" could be referred to as navigable
waterway. It should probably be "waterway encroachment" in the document.
3 . Zoning Discussions
1 .4 Design Standards for the lakefront zoning
Mr. Rachun stated the Design Standards could probably use portions of the Conservation
Zone to build from. Another resource would be the Ithaca Lakefront and Canandaigua
Lakefront Zoning Meeting 2
02/24/2010
Lakefront zoning for reference. This Board would be responsible for creating the Design
Standards .
Kerness : Roof Pitch
Mr. Kerness gave his presentation, members clarified this had been approved at the last
meeting. They did clarify that is a current boatlift has a different pitch, thus could be
replaced with the same as long as there is no expansion.
Cool : Dock Dimensions
Mr. Cool gave his presentation to the members . A lengthy discussion created various
changes that Mr. Cool agreed to take home and prepare as well as create diagrams for the
next meeting.
The discussion included the surface area of docks and additions e. g. L shaped extensions .
The 5 feet draw being allowed or going to ZBA for variance, dock length 40 feet vs . 50
feet. Most members were comfortable with the 50 feet allowance . Sailboats are a concern
for this area however sailboats are moored not docked . Comment that an individual
should not purchase a boat they cannot anchor, etc in their lakefront area. The mean high
water mark varies seasonally, Summer is 384, Spring 387 and Winter is 378 thus an eight
foot difference. The maximum surface for Ithaca is 320, the members felt this was too
small and after working various plans agreed with the amount Mr. Cool had presented.
Additional Sections
Mr. Smith stated he would like to make a proposal regarding regulating moorings . He is
working on guidelines for these regulations. There are no mooring/buoy requirements .
Discussion resulted in Ms . Cail agreed to contact Sheriff Meskill regarding regulations as
these are numbered.
Ms . Cail stated she had concerns regarding the installation of elevators on the lakefront
properties . Her husband had worked on one of these and she is very concerned as to how
they look, are maintained etc . A lengthy discussion determined most members agreed
outdoor elevators would be a good item to zone for. The discussion led to the option of
property owners installing lifts. Members felt the lifts would be a viable alternative for
those who needed this type of system.
Mr. Smith stated there was lots of work to be done for the next meeting. He asked
Ms . Carlisle Peck to prepare a list of homework items be sent in the body of the email
with the minutes .
The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 00 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Robin Carlisle Peck
Secretary