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PLANNING BOARD
03/18/08
APPROVED 05/06/08
Present: Chairperson Ken Zeserson, Planning Board Members : Rod Hawkes,
David Means, Rod Porter, Rebecca Schneider, John Wertis,
Deputy Supervisor Dick Coogan, Town Board Member David Kerness, Code
Enforcement Officer Alex Rachun.
Mr. Zeserson called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 pm. He stated he and Mr. Kerness had
discussed they would prefer to be more than a rubber stamp group . They would like to be
more proactive than they have been. He thanked Mr. Kerness for spearheading this
process .
Mr. Kerness stated he feels they may have opposition in the timing is not right and he
wanted to remind the members they are volunteer. The pain they go through will be
evident but the conclusion will be worth it. The public hearings could be contentious but
just wanted to let them all know . When changes occur there are repercussions. He has
prepared an agenda and has prepared reference material for later.
The first item on the agenda is a comprehensive sketch of the water district and at the
same time identify all the major tasks that need to be done. They have the water district
activity, most people are nervous about water due to development. The Comp Plan
should be done ahead of what they are talking about doing. The third is zoning, he stated
they all need to determine what they want to look at. It is important to reference zoning.
The last piece is the water needs survey. Sue Ritter is heading this committee and they
hope to prepare a survey. He has not confirmed with DOH they have to submit
paperwork for scoring water district to assess interest (i . e . 0% or low interest) He stated
they did have 0% however that has been lost. It was his understanding they would have to
submit by August of this year to get in the funding for this year. They have to know
where the district is going to go, it is a preliminary application.
The Comp Plan is in the planning phase, he tried to look across the Comp Plan water
needs and try to have it complement the IUP submission. The Comp Plan is not supposed
to be available until November. He continued to discuss the elements of the zoning, water
needs, water districts, etc . How the DNA ' s impact the difference elements of zoning.
The Comp Plan Committee have scheduled two information meetings with the public to
be held in April .
Mr. Kerness presented a wind mill reference guide from a seminar he attended. He stated
it may be worthwhile to develop laws regarding these as he anticipates this coming before
this committee in the near future . They have had issues related to this in Enfield, as well
as Ithaca.
Mr. Wertis stated another item to consider are gas wells, he has seen some of these units
in other town ' s that are huge and unsightly.
Mr. Porter asked if the Town Board had asked the Planning Board to address these issues .
Mr. Kerness stated he had presented this information twice and had not gotten a negative
answer, so he stated they were going to do it.
Mr. Coogan stated they had not received a resolution from the Town Board. This is the
correct way to do this .
Mr. Wertis stated this committee could do lots of things but he is still waiting to hear
what they are supposed to be doing.
Mr. Porter stated he does not mean to stir up a hornet ' s nest, but he would like to have the
directive from the Town Board that they would like to have this done.
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Mr. Wertis stated he does not know if he agrees with that statement but he does know that
some of this will require money and he has discussed this with Mr.Austic and he agreed
with him.
Mr. Kerness stated it is a lot of work however he feels it would be a valuable process and
tool to have to protect aspects of our town.
Mr. Zeserson stated it may seem naïve however why would the Town Board not want this
Board to pursue these issues .
Mr. Coogan stated they are in the middle of the Comp Plan and have spent almost
$ 80,000 . (the original funding and the Ag and Market Grant) whether it is all spent that is
what they are stating they have available. These tasks are part of what the Comp Plan
committee is looking to incorporate into their document.
Mr. Porter stated he appreciates their position, however this Board has not been in the
position to initiate this type without having been directed by the Town Board.
Mr. Rachun stated the changes in zoning have been recommended in full by the Planning
Board, at the end of that section were UNA and CEA. His feeling is that it is an open
question and they can continue to review as part of that process. It could be adopted as a
separate law and apply zoning to that law. They could use design standards etc . to be
incorporated into the zoning.
Mr. Porter stated he would hate to go to through all of this work and not have it be looked
at by the Town Board.
Mr. Kerness stated the last item is commercial zoning. They do not have commercial is
zoning.
Mr. Rachun noted the light industrial areas vs . the commercial areas on the zoning maps .
Mr. Wertis asked if they are in the same place, they were at a Comp Plan meeting last
night and they were envisioning where these should happen. He interpreted it as playing
God, he is concerned that this committee is working on this as well as the Comp Plan
committee.
Ms . Schneider stated she would like to have some input into this, if this committee was
working they could provide input to the Comp Plan on ideas we have.
Mr. Rachun stated this Board maybe getting ahead of themselves with the Comp Plan
working in tandem . He was approached by Mr. Kerness to protect the damages and
control on the lakefront. He informed him establishing the UNA as part of Town Law
would help this process .
The discussion continued regarding drafting UNA, CEA, work done by the Planning
Board could be used as overlays, incorporated into the Comp Plan and or Zoning Laws.
The members agreed Mr. Kerness and Ms . Schneider should go to the meeting with a
presentation as to the reasoning for incorporating UNA and CEA as part of Town Law.
They will put a resolution together to hopefully get approved by the Town Board and if
approved will bring back to the Planning Board.
The members discussed conservation zones, overlay districts, revisions to the zoning law
and how this would impact. The length of time it may take to incorporate.
Mr. Kerness noted that while researching noise laws for the golf course project he used
other town ' s and found this a viable tool . They were lucky to have Sue Poelvoorde on the
Comp Plan who has a vast experience with this and wrote to Request of Proposal to
obtain the consultants .
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Mr. Wertis stated he has the impression they wanted to concentrate on the lakefront, but
wondered about the other UNA ' s . He noted they are different.
Mr. Rachun stated they would adopt the County UNA, then they would decide if they
want to create their own criteria. He stated it was in the original recommendations he was
going to check to see if they have actually been adopted or not. It may have been an
oversight .
A discussion regarding what the Planning Board would like to do regarding future UNA
and CEA, zoning changes etc was held. Ms . Schneider and Mr. Kerness will go to the
next Town Board meeting with a presentation to request the Town Board adopt the UNA
and CEA and present a resolution requesting the Planning Board specifically address
these as well as a conservation zone, wind mill and the items listed on the agenda.
Mr. Wertis made the MOTION, Ms . Schneider SECONDED to approve the minutes of
01 / 15/08 . All members voted unanimously, 01 / 15/08 MINUTES APPROVED .
The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 20 pm .
Respectfully submitted,
Robin Carlisle Peck
Secretary
03/23/08