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SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING
OCTOBER 29, 2003
PRESENT : Supervisor Douglas Austic ; Councilpeople Carolyn Duddleston, Lee Scott
and Robert Weatherby; Town Clerk Marsha L. Georgia.
Supervisor Austic called the meeting to order at 6 : 45 p . m .
Mr. Austic has submitted his thoughts to the Board on updating the Town of Ulysses
Land Subdivision Regulations and they are as follows : (these are entered into the minutes
as Mr. Austic presented including font) .
1 . 112 . 1 Change to SIMPLE SUBDIVISION last sentence to read NO DISTINCTION
IS MADE BETWEEN SUBDIVISION AND RE- SUBDIVISION.
2 . Change 202 . 1 to : ALL DIVISION OF A LOT INTO TWO OR MORE LOTS ,
WHETHER OR NOT NEW STREETS , PUBLIC FACILITIES OR UTILITY
EXTENSIONS ARE INVOLVED OR NOT .
3 . 203 . 2 Add after approved by THE TOWN OF ULYSSES ZONING OFFICER OR
before the Town of Ulysses Planning Board
4 . Change 203 .4 to read : RESULTING IN 3 OR MORE LOTS AND NO NEW PUBLIC
FACILITIES
5 . Change 203 to read : RECOGNIZE FOUR TYPES OF SUBDIVISION, which are
subject to FOUR DIFFERENT review
6 . Add new 203 .4 SIMPLE SUBDIVISION : RESTATE 112 . 1
7 . Change 210 . 1 after submit to - add THE ZONING OFFICER AT LEAST 10 DAYS
PRIOR TO
8 . Add to 211 BASED ON AN ACCEPTABLE SKETCH PLAT, THE SUBDIVISION
MAY BE CLASSIFIED AT THIS TIME BY THE ZONING OFFICER AS A SIMPLE
SUBDIVISION, OR IF NOT A SIMPLE SUBDIVISION, THE REQUEST WILL BE
FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO CLASSIFY THE SUBDIVISION
PROPOSAL FOR REVIEW SUBJECT TO
9 . ADD 219 SIMPLE SUBDIVISION REVIEW PROCEDURES : UPON
DETERMINATION BY THE ZONING OFFICER THAT THE SUBDIVISION IS A
SIMPLE SUBDIVISION, THE ZONING OFFICER ACTS TO CONDITIONALLY
APPROVE, CONDITIONALLY APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS , DISAPPROVE
OR GRANT FINAL APPROVAL. IN ANY EVENT , FINAL APPROVAL CANNOT
BE GRANTED UNTIL AN OFFICIAL SURVEY MAP PREPARED BY A
SURVEYOR LICENSED BY NYS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE ZONING
OFFICER AND THAT SUCH MAP INDICATES THAT ALL OF THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAVE BEEN SATISFIED .
FINAL APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION BY THE ZONING OFFICER SHALL
BE INDICATED BY HIS SIGNATURE AND DATE ON THE FINAL SURVEY MAP .
Mr. Austic suggested that the Board review and give him feedback on how they feel.
The Board continued on with the review of the Draft Zoning Ordinance from page 1 .
Page 1 . George Frantz had added a new paragraph under 2 . 1 that the Board feels is okay.
Page 3 . 2 . 9 Establishment of Districts — Conservation District is not list — the Board feels
that the name should be changed to Park & Recreation — be called PR and be the first on
the list.
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Page 4 — under 2 . 10 after 1st paragraph needs a space before number 1
2 . 14 Could add in Subdivision regulations
2 . 15 — remove or doublewide manufactured
Page 5 — keep it to read as printed
Page 6 — Airport — add as Regulated by FAA
Airstrip Private — use the same definition as airport but not regulated by FAA and
used by the owner of the property. (Doug will look into how FAA regulates — Call Steve
Selover
Page 7 — Bed and Breakfast — keep the original definition — this was from NYS
Caterer — leave for hire in there
Page 8 — Cottage industry — insert on site last sentence after persons
Page 9 — Elder cottage-go back to the original definition - remove everything after
marriage or adoption.
Farm — go back to fifty because that is the NY State definition
Page 10 — handicapped was changed to Persons w Disabilities leave this here as but have
under the P — Persons w Disabilities
Page 11 — hotel — go with the definition that George Frantz put in
Page 12 — kennel — okay — But Carolyn will check to find a better definition
Page 14 — motel — leave original
Page 15 — Project site — add in — The project site is the entire parcel where something is
being developed. Doug will check with George to see if he has anything better.
Page 16 — residence, single family — add including doublewide manufactured homes
Residential care facility — the title was changed to include Assisted
Living/Rehabilitation Facility — also add in, after mental disability, addiction of
Roadside Stand — tempory or permanent remove and erected or placed
Page 17 — sign — take out visible
Skirting — As defined by NYS Residential Building Code Section AE 503
Add in definition — Tempory Building or structure used for office, sales, storage
or fabrication activities related to the development of a site for residential purposes,
provided that such building or structure may not be continued for more than one ( 1 ) year
except upon receipt of Special Permit.
Page 18 — Zoning District — changed opens to open and the or to are
Article IV - Al - Agricultural District
4. 1 Purpose - leave the definition as it originally stands
4.3 Permitted Uses
Cemetery — at the end of definition put as Regulated by NYS
Remove Flag lot
Remove — Doublewide manufactured homes because they are single-family homes
Add in Subdivisions, Rural, minor and major as regulated by Article number ?
Subdivision
4.4 Permitted Accessory Uses
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Put Group adult care back to the way it is under definitions — Adult care group
4.5 Uses allowed by Site Plan Approval
Add in Airstrips private
Add in Kennel
Mr. Austic stated that there is a difference between site plan approval and special permit
— you cannot refuse a site plan, but you could refuse a special permit if the applicant did
not do what was required . Mr. Austic asked if there were some uses that you might want
to add more than site plan approval . Site plan approval does not address how a use could
affect the area whereas a special permit could. Create a 4 . 6 and put some of these uses
under that. They didn ' t feel that you would need both a special permit and site plan
approval because there are standards , some may need both. It was discussed which board
would do special permits and it was the consensus that the elected officers of the Town
should be issuing these permits . The people elect the Town Board and any big project
should be reviewed by the elected officials, but the Planning Board still can be used as
advisors like in PDD ' s . Make a new section called :
4. 6 Uses Allowed by Special Permit by the Town Board
Transfer the following from Site Plan Approval :
Airports
Campground, group campground
Fire station or other public building necessary for the protection or the servicing of a
neighborhood .
Public and private school , nursery school, institution of higher education, including
dormitory accommodations .
Regional parks and preserves
4.6 would become 4. 7 - Lot Area & Yard Requirements
At the previous joint meeting a show of hands was agreed to go with 700 ' frontage and
200 ' depth, but after that show of hands more Rl ' s were taken out. You have to go back
to the purpose and the purpose is to preserve agricultural. No problem of a maximum
non-agricultural lot being 3 acres . A long discussion took place and no determination
was arrived. The Board will rethink this whole section and come up with something.
4.7 as in originally has been eliminated
Hearing no further discussion the next meeting is scheduled for November 5th, 2003 after
the scheduled Public Hearing on the Budget.
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