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Ulysses Planning Board and Comprehensive Plan Committee
Joint Meeting, December 9, 1998
Present : Peter Demjanec , Dave Tyler, Gregg Hoffmire, Krys Cail, Catherine Stover, Ruth
Kahn, Doug Austic, Alex Rachun, and members of the public .
Recording minutes : Deb Austic .
Peter started the meeting at 7 : 45 p .m. and welcomed the public . The Board
reviewed the minutes of 11 /4/98 . Krys made a motion to approve, seconded by Dave, and
passed unanimously . The Board reviewed the minutes of the public hearing 11 / 17/98 .
The last line was amended to read "article 239 arrived with a finding of no deleterious
affects". Dave made a motion to approve as amended, seconded by Krys, passed
unanimously . The Board reviewed the minutes of 11 / 18/98 . Gregg made a motion to
approve, seconded by Dave, passed unanimously . Peter opened the meeting for public
comments .
Kai Shafft expressed concern for the definitions of the zones, particularly the C3
near Agard Rd .
Tom Reitz said the C3 near Agard should be well defined as to the area, allowable
uses and existing businesses, and Ulysses Square should be added to the map . Torn asked
about regulation of junkyards and used car lots and suggested there should be a special
use permit for activities like the expansion of Alpha House that might have additional
traffic and environmental needs .
Cindy Robinson was concerned with the definition of C3 and said there was a
lack of notice to residents about the public hearing .
Linda Knewstub suggested the C3 be removed because the language was too
general and it would affect land values and the wellbeing of residents or C3 should be
smaller to limit the size of industries that could locate there . Knewtub also suggested
more notification for the next public hearing, including posting map in grocery stores,
post offices , etc .
Fred Knewstub expressed concern for the lack of clarity in the language and the
need for C3 in the Town.
Andrea Murray asked about the process for adoption and how many public
hearings there would be . Murray also asked about adult entertainment and what zone it
would be allowed in. The Board answered that it would go in the least restrictive zone
(C3 ) and that a subcommittee was working on a separate ordinance for that.
Larry Thompson stated that he owned Ulysses Square that was left off the map .
Thompson said it should be placed on the map and that it should be C3 . The Board stated
that it was an oversight and Ulysses Square would be on the map .
Peter Penniman suggested that the higher intensity development should be closer
to the Village and lower intensity development farther away, and development near
Agard Rd . should be low impact.
Dave thanked public in attendance for positive feedback as well as constructive
suggestions . Peter suggested the Board work on definitions of the districts and then think
about whether the map reflects that . Peter ran through his interpretation of the districts as
Cl : tourist based enterprises, C2 : retail, services, and offices, C3 : light manufacturing
and business that doesn ' t rely on street traffic . Peter noted that at some point the there
would be a need to address the transition from home occupation to a size business that
needs to relocate .
There was a discussion of the definition of Cl and what activities would be
appropriate. Dave said the definition of Cl would need to be specific to keep C2 from
creeping in. Alex suggested tourist activities and lodging, other activities would be
allowed only as an accessory use . Krys suggested perhaps a seasonal aspect to the
definition. The Board agreed the definition should include examples .
The Board discussed C3 . Alex suggested if the Town wanted light manufacturing
it was best to keep it in a designated C3 area, rather than eliminate the zone . The Board
discussed the C3 near Agard and the reasons for selection. The Board agreed that
reduction to one side of Route 96 . Dave suggested the Auble parcel should reflect some
C3 . There was a discussion of the Auble parcel and size of development it could
accommodate . The intersection of Perry City Rd . and Route 96 was discussed as to
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whether it would be suitable for development. There was concern over the traffic flow at
that intersection. There was a discussion of the need for C2 versus C3 in the Town and it
was suggested that C2 would not grow unless there was a population increase , but that C3
was more likely to grow. Alex suggested that housing could be a larger impact on the
Town than commercial development.
The Board discussed what kind of definitions would be appropriate in the
comprehensive plan. Peter volunteered to work on the definitions and to include
examples and goals of the zone . The Board agreed the map should reflect existing
commercial development in tax parcels and the uses to '/4 mile within the Village limits .
Peter announced the next meeting would be 12/ 16/98 at 7 : 30 p . m . The meeting
ended at 9 : 10 p . m .