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process would be joint committee review followed by final changes
before public review .
Mr . Rachun requested a projected time line . Ruth Kahn
indicated yesterday ; Ms . Poelvoorde indicated a couple of months ;
Ms . Cail noted that Christmas is a famous construction deadline .
Ms . Poelvoorde reviewed the process : the framework is underway , a
plan synthesis is required ; the work with the survey must be
completed ; and other topics remain to be written .
Mr . Rachun stated he understood the proposal to mean the draft
Master Plan would pass from the subcommittee to the Planning Board
and then to the Town Board , and thus he was confused about the role
t o the Master Plan Committee . Ms . Poelvoorde noted that only Ms .
Stover was on the Master Plan Committee but not on the
subcommittee . Mr . Tyler noted that the draft Comprehensive Plan
was no longer for the Planning Board to adopt . Mr . Reitz stated
t hat he understood that adoption by the Planning Board was
required ; Mr . Tyler noted that a 1993 change in the law made that
unnecessary . Ms . Call noted that while it may not be a legal
requirement , it may be prudent to have the Planning Board adopt the
draft Comprehensive Plan . Mr . Tyler agreed .
Ms . Stover noted that the Town Board had appointed her to be
Board representative to the Master Plan Committee , but she was not
on the draft writing subcommittee . She asked if that was
acceptable to Town Supervisor Douglas Austic ? Mr . Austic noted
that Ms . Stover is still on the Master Plan Committee , and that he
understood she does not want to write . Ms . Stover indicated that
she might want to , although she did not profess to be an excellent
writer . Mr . Tyler observed that time is of the essence , and it
would be advisable to confine the writing to those with proficiency
- get people with talent at writing , and after the draft is
completed , then punch holes in it . Ms . Stover asked if a list of
subjects had been developed ; Ms . Poelvoorde responded that a list
had been started a while ago , but that the writing committee might
divide them differently , and combine some to get broader
categories . Ms . Stover inquired if transportation was one subject ,
Ms . Poelvoorde said yes . Ms . Cail indicated that the first task
would be to confirm that all topics were covered .
Mr . Austic asked how many members were on the Master Plan
Committee ; Ms . Poelvoorde responded five . Mr . Austic suggested
t here should be one meeting of the writing subcommittee ; Mr . Tyler
indicated that that has been done .
Ms . Call asked what the status of meeting minutes was ? David tyler
said we all have the minutes , but that with Roxanne no longer
serving , the Board must get another secretary . Mr . Austic
indicated that he had a copy of the last meeting minutes ; Mr . Reitz
indicated he has both June 28th and May 8th minutes . Ms . Stover
asked if any one had any suggestions for secretary ; Mr . Tyler said
no , the Board must advertise . Ms . Poelvoorde noted that she has a
t ape recorder , and that she would use it to make a tape which the
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future secretary could transcribe into minutes .
Mr . Tyler stated that as a committee member , he would move to
proceed as outlined .
Mr . Austic asked if Roxanne erased tapes ? Mr . Rachun said no , and
noted that with a Zoning Board meeting coming up , a secretary was
n eeded soon . MR . Austic noted that the Town would not need a big
t ime hiring scheme , and asked that if anyone knows of a person
willing to be secretary , to give him the name . Ms . McGuire noted
t hat the last minutes were of great detail , was this customary ?
Ms . Cail responded no , but given the volatile nature of . the last
meeting , Roxanne felt a verbatim transcript was advisable . Mr .
Rachun observed that there would not be another meeting until the
d raft was completed , in approximately 2 months . Mr . Tyler
suggested hiring someone from Manpower , he noted that Roxanne has
kept the Board organized and did a good job , and asked that the
B oard ' s gratitude for her service be noted in the minutes . Ms .
Cail asked what the qualifications and pay were ? Mr . Austic
suggested using Kelly Girls , but Mr . Tyler noted that that was
pricey and the skill level would be low . Mr . Reitz noted that the
Town has the tape recorder : Mr . Tyler asked if Marsha and Paula
could pull the minutes together ; Mr . Reitz noted that Fran McGuire
might be interested ; Ms . McGuire declined , but noted that she was
surprised that the Board could not find a sitting member willing to
act as secretary , and noted that she has served as secretary on two
boards . Mr . Rachun asked if Ms . McGuire was volunteering her
services ; and Ms . Mcguire responded she ' d be happy to help if she
could . Mr . Rachun noted that a new up- to - date computer for the
P lanning Board ' s use would be available soon . Mr . Reitz noted that
t he Board was at a point in the process where 20 years from the
Town will need to know what happened , he observed that at the
morning Chamber breakfast , a recurring concern was the direction
t he Town was going , and the compatibility between the Town and
Village and with adjacent Towns .
Ms . Poelvoorde stated that is all were comfortable with the
proposal , the subcommittee could get started . Mr . Tyler noted that
2 months would be early December ; before Christmas . Mr . Tyler
✓ equested a motion to adjourn . Ms . Stover requested setting the
December meeting date ; after discussion ; the date was set as the
week of Nov 27th . Mr . Rachun stated that Wordperfect 6 . 0 and
e ither D -base or 123 would be available on the new computer , Ms .
Kahn showed the committee her portable low- tech disposable word
processor ( pencil ) . Ms . Kahn asked if the subcommittee was O . K .
w ith Ms . Stover ; Ms . Stover responded no , but she would have the
opportunity to tear it apart later .
The meeting adjourned , except that members of the draft
writing subcommittee remained to receive their assignments .
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TOWN OF ULYSSES
JOINT MASTER PLAN / PLANNING BOARD MEETING
4 OCTOBER 95
VILLAGE MEETING ROOM
PRESENT : CHAIRPERSON : SUE POELVOORDE ; MEMBERS : RUTH KAHN ,
CATHERINE STOVER ; GREGG HOFFMIRE ; BUD STOVER ; KRYS GAIL ;
JOANNE MOLINO ; PETER DEMJANEC ; DAVID TYLER ; BLDG / ZONING
OFFICER : ALEX RACHUN ; TOWN SUPERVISOR DOUGLAS AUSTIC ;
TOWN BOARD MEMBER THOMAS REITZ ; VILLAGE BOARD MEMBER FRAN
II/ MCGUIRE
• The meeting came to order shortly after 7 : 30 PM .
Planning Board Chairperson David Tyler noted that secretary
Roxanne Smith had resigned , and requested that Peter Demjanec
t ake minutes of the meeting .
Sue Poelvoorde presented a concept for completing the work of
t he Master Plan Committee : not to rehash the discussion of the last
meeting , which focused on areas of disagreement , but to move
forward in a positive way to complete the work of the Master Plan
Committee and pass it on the Planning Board to allow the Planning
B oard to complete its task of reviewing the town zoning , and allow
t he Planning Board to deal with the issues such as economic
concerns . Ms . Poelvoorde noted that some time during the summer
had been spent on identifying the remaining tasks of the Master
P lan Committee , i . e . , the portions of the draft Master Plan which
remain to be written . In addition , a number of Master Plan
Committee members who have had the time to attend meetings
regularly have indicated that they have time to devote to writing
portions of the draft Master Plan . Ms . Poelvoorde therefore
proposed : that the Master Plan Committee dispense with regular
meetings during the writing of the draft Master Plan ; that the
draft Master Plan be written by a subcommittee of the Master Plan
Committee ; that the draft be submitted to the Planning Board for
' review and comment ; that the draft be revised in accordance with
t he review of the Planning Board ; and that the draft Master Plan
t hen be submitted to the Town Board .
David Tyler noted that a lot of issues have been reviewed and
aired over the past two years , and that a lot of good ground work
had been compiled , including the County mapping , the County report ,
t he 1988 survey , the recent survey , etc . Mr . Tyler noted that all
the needed raw material was in place , and has been since last
spring , that all that is needed now is a synthesis drawing all that
material together into a 20 to 30 page " not legalese " document .
Now is the time to write the document .
Sue Poelvoorde observed that the document should take all
views into consideration . She listed five members of the Master
P lan Committee who are available to write portions of the draft
Master Plan : Ruth Kahn , Joanne Molino , Krys Cail , Gregg Hoffmire ,
and Sue Poelvoorde . Barbara Page has volunteered to be Village
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Liaison .
David Tyler observed that throughout the Master Plan process ,
not much input has been received from the Village , and that what
t he Town does will have a significant impact on the Village .
Krys Cail requested reactions from Planning Board members to
t he three part proposal put forth by Ms . Poelvoorde . Ms . Call
identified the three parts as 1 ) the establishing of a subcommittee
t o write the draft Master Plan , 2 ) the individuals appointed to the
subcommittee , and 3 ) the inclusion of a Village liaison .
Mr . Tyler noted that the proposal is in response to the letter
sent by Town Supervisor Douglas Austic to the Planning Board
d irecting the Board to proceed with the Master Plan .
Ms . Call concurred , but requested that the Board move forward
with agreement .
Mr . Tyler noted that the Board had been at the point of
putting it ( the Master Plan ) together when " we stubbed our toe " .
Catherine Stover requested to hear again the list of people in
t he draft writing subcommittee .
Ms . Call reiterated the three parts of the proposal and again
requested Board reaction . She noted she is in agreement with the
proposal , though she would prefer a single individual to write the
d raft Master Plan , but no single individual can devote the time
required .
Mr . Tyler observed that the group selected was a small but
d iverse group , with Mr . Hoffmire representing agricultural
interest ; Ms . Cail representing development and the south end of
t he Town ; that the group has the intimate knowledge of the process
to date that will allow them to synthesize the information .
Ms . Cail asked if any Board Member objected to the concept of
a draft writing subcommittee . There were no objections .
Ms . Poelvoorde reiterated that the named group would put the
plan together , review it with the Planning Board and Town Board ,
and make modifications based on those reviews before the final step
of public notice for the comprehensive plan .
Alex Rachun asked if this process meant that the Master Plan
Committee no longer had Town Board representation .
Mr . Tyler indicated yes , the Master Plan Committee is intact
and still has Town Board Representation .
Ms . Cail requested a clarification to " get the mechanics
straight " - the draft Master Plan would be reviewed by a joint
meeting ? Mr . Tyler said yes , Ms . Poelvoorde repeated that the