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TOWN OF ULYSSES
JOINT MASTER PLAN / PLANNING BOARD MEETING
FEBRUARY 6 , 1995
TOWN HALL
P RESENT : CHAIRWOMAN : SUE POELVOORDE ; MASTER PLAN MEMBERS : RUTH
KAHN , CATHERINE STOVER , JOANNE MOLINO ; PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS : CHAIRMAN : DAVID TYLER ; MEMBERS : GREGG
HOFFMIRE , BUDD STOVER , DAN SMITH , KRYS CAIL , PETER
DEMJANEC ; BUILDING / ZONING OFFICER : ALEX RACHUN ;
SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH
The Chairwoman called the meeting to order at 7 : 35 PM . She
reported that she has entered questions one and two of the Town
o f Ulysses survey , into the computer . She has not received the
d ata from Gerri Keil ' s package yet , to enter . It is coming
ill r along . She printed the whole worksheet , but it is much too small
to read . She then printed up sections for the Members to read .
This is a lengthy process . She will need at least a month and a
half to enter all the data and have something useable .
David Tyler stated that he had received a call from Doug
Austic a week or two before Christmas . He asked if David could
be available every Thursday for the next six weeks , as they were
trying to put something together for the HUD grant . The
individuals involved were two Village trustees , two Town Board
Members , two people from Planning from the Village and the Town .
Sue Poelvoorde from the Master Plan Committee was also involved .
There is a plan to try to get water to both ends of Town . Some
time was spent defining what the districts would be . The south
e nd will include all of Falls Road , down Duddleston Road to
basically the State Park lands , across Rt . 96 , to the extension
o f the fairgrounds land , then down to the large chunk of property
t hat includes Halsey House , Maguire Ford , and the Shur - Save . The
land behind those businesses could become a light industry
d istrict .
The north end includes the trailer park . It winds down to
include Salo Drive and comes along the bottom of the Auble Parcel
across to Rt . 96 . It then goes north along the Village line to
Seneca Road and then across . The grant looks into both economic
benefits to the community , and in general , and benefits to low
income households . This is what the group has been trying to
achieve without threatening the character of the Village . A
total of five meetings have been spent in doing this . The grant
application needs to be completed by February 21st .
Ruth mentioned the survey that had been taken at the trailer
park . Roxanne distributed a copy to the Members . Due to the
time constraints , it was thought that the park would be a good
area to target to fulfill the lower income requirements for the
grant . The park could use improved water pressure and more fire
protection . The volunteers who distributed / picked up the surveys
( Ruth , Gregg , Doug and Peter ) noted that they did not have anyone
upset with them for asking their income . Krys stated that by and
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large you would not find anyone complaining until the grant did
not go through . She inquired that once the results are tabulated
would the originals be destroyed ? She would feel comfortable if
t hey were destroyed , or sent somewhere else . It is very
sensitive information . She stated that she did some work on the
census information . It was based only on the Town of Ulysses ,
IIInot across the road from the trailer park . It would be
interesting to see the per capita income according to the census ,
if you sort the census data which somebody at County Planning did
for her . It ' s about $ 8 , 100 . Presumably that would prove the
same thing . She got that information Wednesday afternoon .
Thursday morning she left a message for Ted at County Planning to
be sure that Karl got it . David commented that after Doug
tabulates the information , if figures are in line , that might
make it all the more powerful . Krys asked , in terms of benefits
t o low income households , is that to low income persons or to the
low income housing stock ? Alex said it is the people . It is a
backup to the economic development of the grant and job
retention . There will be a public hearing on Thursday ( February
9 , 1995 ) . There was a public hearing last Thursday also . It
basically described how the HUD grant works , and how the Town and
the Village are applying for it as a joint grant . The amount of
monies available is about $ 600 , 000 . The next meeting will discuss
the nuts and bolts of what will actually be done ; such as the
d istricts , why we need them , and how they are going to try to put
them together . It will be held at the Village Hall at 7 : 30 PM .
Alex reported that a meeting was held with himself , Doug ,
K arl Hecht , Jim Seafuse , Tim Maguire , and Jim Hansom that
afternoon . They went over the best way to approach the grant in
trying to get the available money . They decided to focus on job
✓ etention and job development . A less than favorable letter of
support was received from John Anderson ( Health Department ) .
The Members commented about the article in the Free Press
that stated there was contaminated water in the trailer park . It
was incorrect . Krys stated that she received calls from people
in her area inquiring if the contaminated water was the reason
why the Town and Village were pursuing the water districts . Krys
w as not the only individual who received calls over that article .
Alex stated that Bill Auble decided to not write any letters
o f support for the grant . They would like a letter stating that
o ne / or more developers would like to go into Auble ' s , but due to
the water situation they can not . Alex received calls last
summer from people in Rochester who were interested . Dan said
that he will call Dick Thayler ( Auble ' s attorney ) to see if he
can help . Letters of intent have been received from Jim Seafuse ,
_ . Tim . Maguire , and Ingrid Potenza .
Returning to the survey , Joanne commented that people did
III indeed jump the gun on question one . She saw this over and over
as she was typing in the comments . People were looking toward
the future . Krys said that having a percentage of response for
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each area would be helpful . Having the raw numbers is great said
Alex . The Members stated their appreciation for all the work Sue
h as done ( and will be doing ) .
The school issue came up for discussion . Alex said that out
of 60 people in the Ithaca School District , 36 would like to be
in the Trumansburg School District . David queried how many had
no preference ? That number was unavailable . Krys said that that
question seemed to be answered ( at least in her package of
surveys ) . Krys requested ( as someone who does like the Ithaca
School District ) that if the preference is noted on people who
would like to be in the Trumansburg School District that are
currently in the Ithaca School District , that both sides be
presented . Sue responded that if that is the decision that this
body wants to make that is fine . The question was easy to answer ,
not like the one dealing with development . Sue would like input
on how the Members would like the next few questions tabulated .
Question 5 isn ' t a problem , 6 will be however . Many of the
Members had 10 to 12 areas listed .
The Planning Board Chairman , David Tyler , asked the Members
if they wanted to meet as a group while Sue was working on the
survey ? It seems like it will be awhile before they have as much
available time again . Alex thought it would be better to work
with the information in front of them , rather than going back and
making changes . Krys mentioned the situation with the sub -
d ivision regulations , does it pertain to the Master Plan ? She
h as a neighbor who is doing a sub - division through a place that
does sub - divisions out of Cortland , who has one pending in
Lansing . Our laws are different . She spoke to the neighbor about
it and they have a plan with what they intend to do . They have
no wells on the site . There is one across the street , a lot with
a new house on it , which is for sale . It is a situation where
the sign is up , they have the 800 number on the sign , you call
Cortland . It has all the appearances of a sub - division . The way
our laws are written , unless you sell more than two a year it is
not viewed as a sub - division . Alex corrected Krys , indicating
that the number is four , not two . He also said the water is very
suspect in that area . David asked how many sub - divisions have
come before them , then stated zero ; it ' s a useless ordinance .
Alex said that it is not useless , but unused . The Board will be
g etting one by spring . David thinks that it is worthy of
d iscussion . Krys stated that she isn ' t all that clear on it .
Alex brought to the Members ' attention the new maps from the
County . The roads have been darkened . It shows the major
arteries , the development , due to colorization . The County asked
for editing . The Members spent a bit of time looking them over .
The Planning Board Members will meet March 6 , 1995 at the
Town Hall at 7 : 30 PM . The Master Plan Committee will have a
III joint meeting with the Planning Board on March 20 , 1995 at the
Town Hall at 7 : 30 PM . The meeting adjourned at 9 : 00 PM .