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Public Hearing
Town Board of the Town of Ulysses and
Trumansburg Village Board of Trustees
January 26 , 1995
A Public Hearing was held on January 26 , 1995 in the Main
Meeting Room , 56 East Main Street , Trumansburg , New York . The Town
of Ulysses jointly with the Village of Trumansburg , are considering
the submission of a joint Small Cities application involving a
series of water improvements involving both jurisdictions .
PRESENT : Town of Ulysses Board : Supervisor Doug Austic .
• Councilpersons : Ben Curtis , Tom Reitz , Catherine Stover . Bob
Weatherby absent .
Village Board Members : Mayor Tom Bennett . Trustees : Don
Fairchild , Jackie Merwin , Barbara Page . Trustee Griswold excused .
Tompkins County Planning Board : Karl Heck , Jim Hanson
CITIZENS : Stacey Young - Reporter Free Press , Peter Meskill , Ian
Merwin , Alex Rachun , Marty Petrovic , Marsha Georgia , Peter
Demjanec .
RECORDING MINUTES : Sharon Housworth , Clerk Treasurer
Supervisor Austic open the public hearing at 7 : 30 . Supervisor
Austic stated the intent of the public hearing is to discuss the
HUD grant process .
Supervisor Austic invited Karl Heck from the Tompkins County
Planning Department to address the public .
Karl stated he is here to discuss the grant application , •
eligible activities and monies available :
The 1995 Small Cities Program , as administered by the Buffalo
Area Office , has a total projected funding of $ 51 , 114 , 000 . Maximum
funding levels have been established as follows : comprehensive
applicants can apply for $ 900 , 000 per year grants ; other grants are
limited to multiples of $ 400 , 000 per year for Single Purpose grants
or $ 600 , 000 per year for jointly submitted Single Purpose grants .
Single Purpose grants may provide funds for one or more projects ,
each consisting of an activity or a set of activities designed to
meet a specific community development need . Funds are available to
address serious problems with housing and public facilities which
affect the public health and safety , or economic development .
Projects are rated and scored against each of the following
factors : Need - absolute number of poverty persons - 75 ; Need - percent
of poverty persons - 75 ; program impact - 400 . Outstanding
performance in : fair housing - 40 ; local equal opportunity efforts
- 25 . Maximum total - 615 .
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To receive the highest program impact rating , a public
facility project must : ( 1 ) address a need that is serious ( 2 )
benefit a large number of persons ( 3 ) resolve the identified
problem completely ( 4 ) have no other obstacles to program
implementation .
The primary objective of the Community Development Program is
the development of viable urban communities , including decent
housing and a suitable living environment and expanding economic
opportunities , principally for persons of low and moderate income .
There is a provision that activities which are in themselves
eligible , must also meet other HUD restrictions . Most
particularly , activities must comply with requirements regarding
benefit to low and moderate income persons ; the threshold
requirement that every program benefit a minimum of 70 percent low
income persons ; activities must fully address HUD rating criteria .
Karl stated Ulysses has never been an applicant for a HUD
grant : Councilperson Reitz stated the Town applied in 1986 / 1987 :
Karl stated the Town was not a grantee ; they did not receive the
grant , therefore it does not count .
Supervisor Austic opened the meeting co the floor for
questions .
Trustee Merwin asked Karl to address the HUD focus on low
income criteria ; or job producing .
Karl answered there are rules for the grant ; HUD requires 51 %
of the funds must be used to support the national objective ; which
provides an opportunity for low to moderate income people ; either
through job creation for those people in thy; case of economic
development program or support of an actual housing condition ; you
can meet it either through job creation or job retention ; that jobs
are considered to be available to low income people or low income
people fill those positions . Karl stated this application is a
little bit of both ; what you are proposing ; it meets the national
objective .
Trustee Merwin asked if there is accountability for jobs going
to low income people . Karl answered yes there is ; it is reported
through a survey mechanism ; individuals fill out a survey form when
they are hired ; the businesses do not have to verify the
information that is filled out .
Karl continued : the project the Town and Village are applying
for don ' t have to support both ; your proposal happens to have both ;
you can have one or the other ; you can be supporting housing or
public facilities that helps low to moderate income people ; or you
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can create jobs which go to that population .
Trustee Page asked about the poverty level . Karl answered
poverty is used as one of the criteria ; applications are rated on
the scale of 100 - 400 ; 400 is the highest ; if you get a 400 , you
w ill not get . funding ; Karl stated the percentage in Ulysses is
fairly low ; your number will probably be average or slightly above
average for the competition ; using both the Town and Village there
are approximately 6000 people ; which is large compared to others
places .
Coucilperson Curtis asked if there is any waiting on the HUD
money for the nature of the job . Karl answered HUD does not have
rules like that ; HUD looks at employment .
Trustee Merwin asked if this is the same " pot of money " that
the City is applying for under the Community Block Development
Grant ; Karl answered yes , but you won ' t be competing with the City
o f Ithaca . Karl continued that 85 % of the money will go for single
purpose application ; 15 % will go to comprehensive purposes ; the
City is always in the comprehensive category ; they compete
separately .
Karl continued that HUD is offering for the first time a
multi - year application for up , to three years ; the City will be
applying for a multi - year project .
Councilperson Curtis asked Karl where we may come under the
poverty point level . Karl answered between 28 - 40 ; points go from
1 - 75 ; 75 being the highest you can get ; not many communities are at
the high end .
Councilperson Curtis asked how the poverty points are based .
Karl answered points are based on the census ; it would be the
Town ' s census which includes the Village ; it is not just the
district you are talking about for water ; it would include all of
the Town and Village .
Trustee Page asked if the $ 600 , 000 that both municipalities
are applying for as a joint effort , if the Village could add
another $ 300 , 000 on to that for the Village downtown improvement .
Karl answered a comprehensive grant requires multiple activity
either housing or economic development in a very concentrated area ;
you don ' t want to scatter projects in different areas , as it would
n ot score well as comprehensive .
Trustee Page asked how likely is it when you apply for a
$ 600 , 000 grant when you share it between two municipalities , to get
the full $ 600 , 000 . Karl answered it is a " all or nothing " ; you
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either receive all of $ 600 , 000 or nothing ; it is not split up : in
a comprehensive grant , they can throw out one . it they think it is
not good .
Councilperson Reitz asked how the applications are reviewed .
Karl answered HUD in Buffalo has a group of specialist in each of
the major categories who rate the applications ; last year they
bought in some people from Washington to meet with the people in
Buffalo ; it is all HUD people who review the applications . It •
takes approximately 75 days to review the applications which makes
it about May 10th when they should be done .
Trustee Merwln asked who is writing the grant . Karl : the
Tompkins County Planning Department has a consultant , Dave Carlson ,
w ho writes grants . Trustee Heroin asked if Karl knows what will be
put in the grant . Karl stated it is too early ; a lot of it will
come from the engineers ' report . Mr . Hanson stated there are two
hearings ; one for the HUD prcccdure ; the second hearing will
address the questions you have asked and as Doug mentioned the
engineers report will be a part of that application and we will go
over the whole thing through the hearing process .
Councilperson Curtis stated he is still unclear as to the
process of the grant and what is - ncluded is the grant ; is that a
decision you make . Karl ; in consultation with everybody here ;
o bviously you have selected an interest in a specific project ; we
don ' t pick that project for you ; what it takes to get there , is
something else ; a big part of that is going to be told to us by the
e ngineers ' report .
Councilperson Curtis asked when the application has to be
filed . Karl : February 21st .
Councilperson Curtis asked in regards to Trustee Page ' s
questions — why can ' t there be a component for some kind of
downtown revitalization in Trumansburg ; as you mentioned ( Karl )
being widespread as opposed to focus ; the City of Ithaca has a
Cherry Park employer as their economic component ; and they have
✓ arious housing components spread over the southside . We are
looking at a water district to the north and to the south ; housing
component to the north ; why is this different ( from the City ) .
Karl answered : there is e housing component , but basically the
w ater is one project ; it is one activity ; an economic development
activity , which does not necessarily have to be in the same area
but needs to be related to the other project ; the Ithaca project
has employers , they have housing , : hey might have water and sewer ;
there are usually three or four activities related to a
comprehensive grant for it to compete well .
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Karl continued : to have a joint activity for $ 600 , 000 and one
activity for $ 300 , 000 does not make it a comprehensive grant ; it
w ould not compete well . The Village could do a downtown
development on their own as a separate activity . You would need
specific employers to be tied into this program that would borrow
the money to create jobs . Supervisor Austic stated the Village
w ould probably not have time to do this in a couple of weeks .
• Trustee . Page had a question regarding the community
development plan that Councilperson Curtis was referring to ; in the
grant application , you need a community development plan especially
because the Town does not have a master plan . However , at this
point the Town and Village have made resolutions on this , and what
e ffect if to say one municipally or the other did not agree or
didn ' t ratify this community development plan : what effect would it
have on the grant .
Karl answered : it is a grant requirement not an application
requirement ; if you got the grant , it is a HUD requirement to what
extent you do that ; you can have something fairly generic : you
don ' t have to have something that specific . Trustee Page asked
w hat happens if you have a memorandum of understanding and one
group or the other didn ' t approve it , what effect would it have on
the grant . Karl answered : that it would be something else . like
a change in the conditions , like the water plan . The plan needs
some kind of documentation on paper as to what it is ; it can be a
✓ ery generic document : but if something changes like the basis of
reallocation , that would be something else : such as the source of
the water ; if you had no source of water , that would be a major
change in the application . Part of the application has to have a
feasible activity and that it can be done .
Councilperson Stover stated we are under a real time
constraint , if the engineers ' report comes in when it is suppose
to , do you feel confident that it can be ready by February 21st .
Karl answered yes , it should not be a problem .
Supervisor Austic reported that Alex has been working on
business surveys in the area ; and this weekend they will be doing
economic income information at Auble ' s Trailer Park and other areas
which will be specifically affected by this water district .
Councilperson Curtis asked Karl if we can ' t come up with a
community development plan , will the planning board come up with
one ; Karl answered yes . Supervisor Austic stated we have one , it
is on his desk and it should be acceptable .
Ian Merwin stated he has three questions : ( 1 ) is this money
already appropriated and sitting there ; or is there a chance it
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might be taken back with budget cuts . Karl answered it is
appropriated and has been published in the Federal Registrar .
Ian ' s second questions : what is the percentage of success
for people who write grants and receive them . Karl answered : last
year there were about 158 applicants and 88 were funded .
Ian ' s third questions : Are there quotas from one county to
another ; it is a " state wide free for all competition " . •
Karl answered it is an open competition through out the state ;
last year there were six Tompkins County applications and all were
funded .
Councilperson Curtis asked if an environmental review will
have to been done . Karl answered if you receive the grant , you
have to go through a Federal SEAR ( NEPA - National Environmental
Protection Agency ) : there is a 32 day comment period .
Supervisor Austic asked if there were any more questions or
comments . Having no further questions , Supervisor Austic closed
the public hearing at 8 : 10 p . m . and thanked everyone for attending .
Sincerely ,
Sharon Housworth
Clerk Treasurer .
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TOWN OF ULYSSES
SPECIAL BOARD MEETING
January 26 , 1995
P resent : Supervisor Doug Austic ; Councilpeople Catherine Stover ,
Tom Reitz , Ben Curtis ; Town Clerk Marsha Georgia ;
Architectural Consultant Peter Demjanec .
S upervisor Austic opened the Special Board Meeting of the Town of
U lysses at 8 : 15pm .
G rant plans and application were reviewed and discussed by the
B oard . Mr . Reitz commended the work and time commitment of Mrs .
G eorgia , Mrs . Mount and Peter Demjanec .
Mr . Reitz moved , seconded by Mrs . Stover the following :
• WHEREAS : the Records Advisory Board has identified a need
for an appropriate Records Storage Room , and
WHEREAS : the Records Advisory Board has prepared
specification and a SARA Grant Application for
construction of a Records Storage Room ,
BE IT RESOLVED : that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses
authorizes the Town Supervisor to sign the SARA
Grant application .
Mr . Austic Aye
Mr . Reitz Aye
Mrs . Stover Aye
Mr . Curtis Aye
Adopted .
The Board discussed the purchase of the land , the needs of the
Town Hall and possible solutions .
Mr . Curtis moved , seconded by Mrs . Stover the following :
WHEREAS : the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses recognizes
the continuing need of additional space in the
Town Hall , as reflected in the lack of sufficient
office space and space to hold meetings ,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED : that the Town Board commits in
principal to explore constructive alternatives to
meet its current and future building needs .
Mr . Austic Aye
Mr . Reitz Aye
Mrs . Stover Aye
Mr . Curtis Aye
Adopted .
Hearing no further business the Special Board Meeting was
adjourned at 9 : 20pm .
Respectfully submitted ,
Marsha L . Georgia
Town Clerk
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