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SPECIAL BOARD MEETING
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TOWN OF ULYSSES
October 3 , 1994
PRESENT : Supervisor Douglas Austic ; Councilpeople Thomas Reitz ,
Catherine Stover , and Ben Curtis ; Councilman Weatherby
absent ; Highway Superintendent James Meeker ; Town Clerk
Marsha Georgia .
Supervisor Austic called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 pm to
discuss the bids received and opened at the Regular Town board
Meeting of September 13 , 1994 .
Mr . Meeker , Highway Superintendent stated that he has reviewed
O the bid proposals received , from R . L . S . Structures , Inc . for
$ 34 , 760 . and Park Lane Construction & Development Corp . for
$ 44 , 800 , on September 13 , 1994 . He told the Board he had
advertised for specifications ; in other words - - what do you have
to offer to the Town of Ulysses for a 30 ' x 60 ' Salt Storage
building ? So therefore after comparison between the two
proposals of the two buildings offered I feel Park Lane
Construction & Development Corp . submitted the better bid
proposal for our Salt Storage needs and recommends the Board
accept their bid of $ 44 , 800 . The following are + or - reasons for
his recommendation .
PARK LANE R . L . S .
+ Architect or Professional Yes - No
Engineer
+ 5 / 8 " CDX plywood for roof - 1 / 2 " plywood
+ 8X12 laminated column - 8 " X8 " columns
60 treated 6 ' on centers ( laminated 8 ' on centers )
8X8 stub column . treatment ?
+ 6 ' centers Engineered truss - 4 ' centers . truss ? every other
45 P . S . F . total load one not supported on column .
minimum 35 P . S . F .
+ Exterior wall 5 / 8 Texture 111 - Inner seal ? 3 / 8 " like press board
+ Shingles 25 yr . + 2 yr . on install - - 25 yr . shingle warranty
ation .
+ 8 ' height stress skin panel - 1 1 / 2 " tongue & groove boards
( see detail ) 6 " Thickness
+ Check references ; Good + References ; Good
53 plus in N . Y . S . including 3 all subcontracted ; no salt
buildings built by R . L . S .
e salt buildings .
+ Continuous vented roof & side wall - None ?
vent .
+ Interior wall , ease of replacement - Tongue & groove not so easy .
plywood .
+ 6 " interior wall - 1 1 / 2 " interior wall
+ 8 ' height - Not 7 ' in height
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A general discussion took place as to different prices per square
foot for buildings of this kind that ranged from $ 37 . to $ 23 . for
a comparison that had been from other sources of already
constructed Salt Storage buildings .
The general census of the Town Board was to accept Mr . Meeker ' s
recommendation and award the contract to Park Lane Construction
and Development Corp .
Mr . Reitz moved , seconded by Mr . Curtis the following ;
RESOLVED , that the Town Board of the Town of Ulysses accept
the bid of $ 44 , 800 from Park Lane Construction and
Development Corp . based on the product quality and
design as per bid specifications .
Mr . Austic aye
Mr . Reitz aye
Mr . Curtis aye
Mrs . Stover abstained
Adopted
Hearing no further discussion Mr . Reitz moved , seconded by Mrs .
Stover to adjourn the meeting . Unanimously carried .
Meeting adjourn 6 : 30 p . m .
Respectfully submitted ,
Marsha L . Georgia
Ulysses Town Clerk
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TOWN OF ULYSSES
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
TOWN HALL
OCTOBER 3 , 1994
P RESENT : CHAIRMAN : YEN CHRISTIAN ON ; MEMBERS : CARL MANN , RUSSELL
CARPENTER , GEORGE TSELEKIS ; BUILDING / ZONING OFFICER ; ALEX
RACHUN ; SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH
ALSO PRESENT : FRANK PALMER , MR . AND MRS . WHITE ( MR . PALMER ' S NEIGHBORS )
The Chairman called the hearing to order at 7 ; 30 PM . Frank Palmer
o f 2374 Mecklenburg Rd . , Trumansburg , NY , has requested a variance un -
der Article II , Section 6 , of the Zoning Ordinance . The purpose for
t his is to expand the cubic content of the existing house at 4088 Cold
Springs Rd . , Trumansburg , that does not have the required front yard .
Mr . Palmer had been denied under Article VII , Section 3 , of the Ulysses
Zoning Ordinance in that no nonconforming building shall be altered or
e xtended except as authorized by the Board of Zoning Appeals . The
Chairman stated that Mr . Palmer had decided to raise the roof and one
an addition on the back of the house . Carl asked if the new height met
t he NYS building and fire codes ? Alex indicated it does and that it will
conform more than it originally did .
Initially Alex Raciun spoke on Mr . Palmer ' s behalf ( as he had in -
dicated he might not he able to attend the hearing ) . The Chairman stated
that he had a little problem with the fact that the job is just about
completed and the Members are just meeting now to consider giving Mr .
P almer e variance for it . Alen did review the plans with the builder ,
and everything was satisfactory . At that point some of the structural
work had been done . Alex pointed out that the house was too close to
t he road , and because the cubic content of the house was being increased ,
it would need a variance . The footprint of the house is not being in -
creased .
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Mr . and Mrs . White , neighbors of Mr . Palmer , spoke in favor of the
change . They stated it was a great improvement .
Carl noted that the reason that the Members of the Zoning Board
o f Appeals were proceeding with the request , without the applicant
present , was due to the fact that the letter was sent to the applicant
at an Ithaca address instead of a Trumansbuzp one . It was an error on
t he Town ' s part . At this point Mr . Palmer arrived .
Russell stated that he felt it would be in everyone ' s best interest
to grant the variance as it was an improvement on the facility .
Carl Mann made the motion as follows :
Whereas : The requested variance is not substantial in the relation
to the requirement ;
Whereas : The effect of the variance ( if allowed ) on increased popula -
tion density ; on available governmental facilities is nil ;
Whereas ; There will not be a substantial change in the character
o f the neighborhood ;
Whereas ; There will not he a detriment to adjoining properties .
The height will be brought at to conformance . This is
✓ eally the only practical net to obviate the difficulty .
It is to the Town ' s benefit that the roof be raised . In the view of
t he manner in which the difficulty arose , which was that the building was
constructed this way originally , and in consideration of all of the above
factors , justice will be served by allowing the variance .
Carl made the motion to grant the variance . Yen seconded It and
then called for e vote as follows : Russell Carpenter - Aye , Carl Mann - Aye ,
K en Gristnenson - Aye , George Tselskis - Aye .
The motion was passed unanimously , the variance was granted . Carl I :
made a motion for adjournment , Ken seconded . The meeting adjourned at
7 : 35 PM .
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TOWN OF ULYSSES
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
OCTOBER 3 , 1994
TOWN HALL
PRESENT : ACTING CHAIRWOMAN : KEYS CAIL ; MEMBERS : PETER
DEMJANEK , DAN SMITH , GREGG HOFFMIRE ; DAVID TYLER
( 8 : 15 PM ) ; BUILDING / ZONING OFFICER : ALEX RACHUN ;
TOWN PLANNING BOARD MEMBER : TOM REITZ ; SECRETARY :
ROXANNE SMITH .
MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 19 , 1994
The meeting came to order at 7 : 40 PM . ( There was a Zoning
Board of Appeals Hearing scheduled at 7 : 30 PM . ) The Members
reviewed the minutes of September 19 , 1994 . Keys asked that a
change be made in the paragraph under Wal - Mart Environmental
Study . In the third sentence , " private " , will be changed to
" municipal " . Greg made a motion to pass the minutes as amended ;
Keys seconded it . The motion passed unanimously .
MASTER PLAN DRAFT
The Members were given a copy of the County ' s draft of the
Master Plan ( minus 15 pages ) .
Keys asked what the Members thought about the recommendation
that the boundaries of the County Transportation Group be
e xtended past the metropolitan / Ithaca area ? ( Page 8 ) She went
o n to say that they would prefer to have the transportation
planning done for the Town as a whole rather than just for that
metropolitan area . She queried , who " they " were ? ( Tom Raise was
not present . )
With very simple additions the draft could form the basis of
the Master Plan document , commented Keys . The Members agreed .
Peter stated he ' s more interested in the conclusions that come
out of it . The Members spent a lot of time reading through the
document , commenting on such things as : soil types , the large
amount of non - taxable land and Alpha House ' s water district .
During this time period Tom Raise joined the group . He
volunteered to have the Town Historian ( Ester Northrup ) , as well
as Fran Leuder look over the document .
PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE MUNICIPAL TRANSPORTATION AREA
Keys asked Tom if it was the County Planning Board that is
recommending that the municipal transportation area be changed ?
Tom said that currently it is the City of Ithaca , Town of Ithaca ,
a small part of the Town of Dryden , and the Village of Cayuga
Heights . They want to expand it to peripheral areas also . It
has been a formal recommendation . December 14th or 15th will be
the final recommendations . The ones who have a vote on this
issue are the principal leaders of the governments just defined .
Tom is working on a sub - committee of the Planning Board ( County )
to review the document page by page , line by line . Keys asked if
there would be representation on that committee from outlying
areas . They haven ' t taken them into account yet as this is only
the first stage , responded Tom . He continued to say that yes , it
w ill have some effect on the residents up here . It is a 50 , 000
population segment centered around Ithaca . Regional uniformity
in the performance and design in roads being encouraged is part
o f the recommendation , the Black Diamond Trail and additional
infrastructure will be put into the future plan also . The
discussion involves about 4 billion dollars of federal money
coming this way .
DAVID ' S MASTER PLAN REPORT
Hopefully the Master Plan will have the survey finished up
by tomorrow . The plan is to have it out by early November . The
Members will get a copy to the Planning Board and the Town Board .
Keys felt that it was very important to get the survey out before
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the holidays . Dan stated if they went out by the first of
N ovember they would probably be back by Thanksgiving .
AD HOC COMMITTEE
K eys shared that the Ad Hoc Committee has been playing
" telephone tag " and have not actually met . She queried whether
it was Tom ' s idea to keep the group small ? Dave responded that
the thought was , if you had a small nucleus group you would have
a meeting that had everyone there . Keys would like to include
the gentleman from Ulysses Square since he spoke favorably of
participating .
WATER ISSUE
Tom Raise reported that the Town asked the Village , what do
you need in return for giving the Town water ? The Village
responded ( after meeting on September 26th ) that there were four
issues that needed to be discussed prior to making a commitment .
They are : limit on water , if it is exceeded , an additional
contribution needed to be made ; the size of the district ; what
kind of capital improvements the Village would get out of it ; and
land use discussions . Tom went on to say that the Town ' s
d iscussions were prompted by the petitions the Town received to
form a water district by the Residents in the south end , and to
the north end by Mr . Auble . Before they can process that
petition to get an indirect study started we need to have a
source / supply of water . That is why the Village has been told if
t hey give the Town water , the Village will receive something in
return . The State people will be coming on Wednesday at the Town
H all at 4 : 30 PM .
David stated that having Doug working for the Village and
the Town puts him at a disadvantage . The bottom line is we are
all in this boat together . There has to be a meeting in the
middle , and equality of personalities involved .
D an asked how much longer the Village could go before they
h ave to update their systems ? Tom responded that they have a
loan ( for sewage update ) of 1 . 2 million . Unfortunately their
contract price came in at 1 . 8 million . The infrastructure needs
immediate attention . Other infrastructure points are that the
two , DPW and the Highway Department get along great . A key
ingredient will be to have the Master Plan complete , as it will
g ive a guideline to the Town and the Village .
NEXT MEETING
The Members are scheduled for a meeting on October 17 , 1994 .
If the Master Plan is able to finish the survey , everyone will
meet on the Master Plan Committee ' s scheduled meeting date
( October 18 , 1994 ) , but the Planning Board will come in at 7 : 00
P M . The meeting adjourned at 9 : 20 PM .
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