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Home My WebLink About1994-07-05 - MP . I . 4 . TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING JULY 5 , 1994 TOWN HALL P RESENT : CHAIRWOMAN : SUE POELVOORDE ; MEMBERS : CATHERINE STOVER , IRENE SCHICKEL , PETER PENNIMAN , RANDY BROWN ; PLANNING BOARD MEMBER : KRYS CAIL ; ZONING / BUILDING OFFICER : ALEX RACHUN ; SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH THE MEETING CAME TO ORDER AT 7 : 35 PM . • COMMENTS ON PREVIOUS MINUTES Krys liked the idea of having the survey respondents define their neighborhood . Regarding the water district , Alex questioned the state - ment that there is a petition that was submitted by Jim Seafuse , and H alsey House ( last page of minutes ) . Catherine said no , that it does not exist . It is precisely what they should do , said Krys . Alex stated that Auble has everything for sale ( here , and in Watkins Glen ) . It is not posted but Alex is getting phone calls from prospective buyers . Having a petition does involve money ; that is why it hasn ' t h appened . WATER DISTRICT The ARC Grant is a matching funds grant . The amount that the Town would be getting is $ 750 , 000 said Alex . The Town needs to piggy - back that with another grant . The Little Cities Grant is not matching and that is over one million . The Town has a business that is being threatened by the County Health , to either be shut down or to completely re - do their water system . The County Health is going to start clamping d own on all the businesses that have a number, of emplowees and / or sell food . Alex has documentation on that from Jim Hanson . The Town is looking to have water down to Halseyville bridge . Krys mentioned that t he HUD Grants have a pretty good record of granting 50 - 70 % of the requests . Alex commented , after getting it to Halseyville they still are looking at about 3 million to get it to Jacksonville . The Village h as the problem on the north end . The Town would like to make it all one district . They are looking at 1996 funding . The ARC Grant money comes through at a much slower rate than the HUD . The deadline is August 30th . WATER GRANTS The Village Master Plan has targeted the Shur - Save area as a much denser use . The Town ' s Master Plan Committee may or may not agree , stated Alex . The farm soil is marginal at best , 28 inches down you are looking at sand ; at one time it was a beach . Krys stated that it makes sense to talk about what a particular project costs while you ' re thinking of it . The Village wants the north end done now . That northern part will help the Village , other ® than the rate and one - half , the southern end won ' t , said Alex . Karl Heck ( County Planning ) thinks the Town should be applying for consider - ably more . Krys said part of this process is establishing a history . Of the eight times it was offered , there was only one time that the City of Ithaca did not get the grant . If you can set up your improve - ments in " chunks " , you can do one after the other . There is a meeting o n technical assistance for filing the ARC Grant that is being offered o n Thursday . It is at 4 : 00 PM at the mass transit building . That ' s an opportunity where you can ask questions like , " do you have to have t he engineering study done before you apply ? " . There is also the issue o f a feasibility study ( for example - could a pipe be laid here or is t here bedrock a foot down and you ' ll have to blast first - resulting in more cost ? ) . no I � 1 TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING J ULY 5 , 1994 TOWN HALL Alex mentioned that the Village had a consultant come in to discuss their capacity ( where they ' re at now , the state of their hardware in the district ) . To continue to be on par they ' re talking a quarter of a million upgrade . Doug Austic and Tom Reitz attended that meeting , said Krys . They divided it into two discreet problems . One was the low flow issue • ( the Health Department requires a plan ) . The other was dealing with the pressure , needing a closed loop and a water tower . Those were for projections , the quarter of a million was just to bring it up to par said Alex . Krys agreed , but stated that the feasi - bility study the Village used for the north end could be used by the Town . Perhaps that area could be addressed first . The only problem is , you do not have an existing business with water problems at that e nd . They have a point system , the less money you ask for the higher your score , said Krys . You should put in an application this year, for a planning grant for a fairly small amount of money . Alex said he ' ll t alk to Karl about it . ZONING FOR SHUR- SAVE AREA The Members were questioning the amount of acreage involved . Peter, wondered if this would mean that the area on Falls Road would be considered Commercial . Sue estimated there were some 60 acres . She stated that she would be comfortable with a " mixed use " , not all Commer - cial . She ' d like to see some kind of buffer besides Smith Woods . The P lanning Board has kicked that around a lot , as being a denser use . It ' s near the school , along with the shopping area stated Krys . Whatever g oes in there ( water lines ) should be big enough to service Jacksonville , said Sue . Alex suggested a statement to the effect that : 1 . there is Commercial buildout on the western line of that area 2 . the parcel in question ( on Falls Road ) is marginal farm land 3 . the Village Master Plan has designated that area as a potential Commercial Zone 4 . the Town ' s Master Plan is looking at it as a mixed use ( light industry , industrial , residential and commercial ) . Krys commented that in terms of high density residential , one good thing is that there is a lot of green space ( you could walk your dog o n the fairgrounds , school grounds , etc . ) . Alex agreed to put something in writing . Mixed density housing , commercial and light industry will be the mixed use that the Master P lan Committee referred to . ® Peter raised some questions for background information as he is n ew to the Master Plan . The subjects of environmentally critical areas , u nique natural areas , habitat protection / aquifers / depleted wells , all came up . Krys indicated an interest in the number of wells that have sulphur and salt content . Alex mentioned that the Halsey House is now on the National Registrar . We do not have an historic district , t hough there may be places in Waterburg , and Jacksonville . NOISE ORDINANCE The Town of Ulysses is unable to enforce their Noise Ordinance . It does not measure anything against decibels , stated Alex . The Village d oes have a Noise Ordinance that is enforceable , the lake does not ( regarding offensive jet skis ; cigarette boats ) . Iyy TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING J ULY 5 , 1994 TOWN HALL SURVEY QUESTIONS The Members spent the remainder of the meeting addressing the introduction that David Tyler had written and coming up with ques - t ions for the survey . It was decided that the introduction was a little long . Peter volunteered to work on it . Peter commented that he liked q uestions that give a list and ask you to rate the answers . He wondered if it would be possible to code the survey somehow . Alex likes multiple • choice questions with " other " for comments . He would like to see a focused follow up with certain areas regarding specific issues . The suggested questions for the survey are attached to the end of these minutes . METHOD FOR MAILING SURVEY / COST OF COLOR COPIES Irene brought in the Voter Registration and said it was divided into four sections . There are 2 , 852 registered voters . If the Town uses this list it will cost about $ 50 . Krys suggested using NYSEG ' s list as it is free . Peter suggested using the tax assessment roles and send to " resident " . Krys liked that as people who have not de - veloped their property would be contacted . Sue suggested using both N YSEG and the assessment roles . ( The voter registration is just for people who live here , businesses would not be contacted . ) Randy re - ported that for 1000 , 11x17 , two color, copies of the survey , it will cost $ 260 . For 2000 , it will cost $ 410 . NEXT MEETING The next meeting will be Tuesday , July 26 , 1994 at 7 : 30 PM , at t he Town Hall . The meeting adjourned at 9 : 45 PM . 01 , TOWN OF ULYSSES MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE JULY 5 , 1994 TOWN HALL These are the suggested questions for the Master Plan Committee ' s survey to be sent out in September 1994 . Eventually they will be narrowed down . 1 . Commercial areas - where do you think they should be ? ( Give them specific choices and " other " . ) i2 . What areas do you think will remain in agricultural production ? 3 . How long / short have you lived in the Town of Ulysses - when or it do you plan to move ? ( Addresses re - sale issues . ) 4 . Where do you work / shop ? 5 . What kinds of businesses would you like to see come in ? 6 . What school district would you prefer to be in ? 7 . Is there an issue you feel very strongly about ? 8 . Please define your neighborhood . •