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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-02-21 - PB im 410 , TOWN OF ULYSSES PLANNING BOARD FEBRUARY 21 , 1994 PRESENT ; CHAIRMAN : DAVID TYLER ; MEMBERS : KRYS GAIL , BUDD STONER , GERRI KEIL , PETER DEMJANEO ; SUPERVISOR : DOUG AUSTIO ; SECRETARY : LYNN JOHNSON The meeting was called to order at 7 : 45 PM . The minutes for February 7 , 1994 were reviewed . Budd moved to approve the minutes , Gerri seconded the motion . The minutes were approved unanimously . A copy of a letter to Doug Austic from Dave Stoyell , HOST P rogram Manager for " The Elder Cottage Concept , " was distributed to Members for their comments , David asked how many units the H OSE' ( Better Housing Options for Seniors today ) people were considering in a given town . Doug said they didn ' t have the information at this time , that this was an initial query . Dave n oted the funding would be a combination of federal and state money through the S . Y . S . . Division of Housing and Community Renewal for the purchase of several " elder cottages . " Because the Members were uncertain as to the role of HOST in the community , Merri explained the many ways they helped seniors ( financial counseling , matching people with seniors who don ' t w ant to Dave their hones , etc . ) . Referring to the Building O rdinance , members discussed many aspects of the " elder concept , " i . e . , acreage , how structures would be constructed , septic , sewer , fire codes , water , electric , special permits . Members ✓ eviewed Article 5 , Section 11 ( p . 7 ) , MORE THAN ONE BUILDING ON A LOT ; Article VI , Section P ( p . 7 ) , BUILDING FLOOR AREA and Section 4 , ( p . 8 ) , MULTIPLE DWELLINGS ; Article VI , Section ib , ( p . 7 ) . BUILDING FLOOR AREA ; Article V , Section tb , ( P . 6 ) , LOT AREA AND YARD SEOULATIDNs ; Article V , Section it ( p . 6 ) ( same heading ) . Lengthy discussion continued on the above , but nothing ✓ esolved until further information is forthcoming . Dave referred to last week ' s discussion on the low impact B l , suggesting Members review the present B2 and allow there will be a 133 . He asked how the existing 5i fit ( referring to Auble lot and wandering if it didn ' t look more like a middle - of - the - ✓ oad type of B2 ) . He queried if all the things in B2 now were appropriate there and wondered if they should be reserved for something called a Si ? Krys noted special permits were the areas they were concerned about ( Section 2 , p . 7 ) . She said the Building Ordinance has a list of outmoded occupations ( Article Iv , Section Li , g . 5 ) , W hen Dave asked for her suggestions for Si , she mentioned g asoline sales stations , garage for repairs , outdoor managementfrecreaticn , heavy industry . Dave noted the difference between gas stations and industry ( discussed LYSEG and Milliken Station and the different levels of use and industry ) . Peter o ffered the type of facility that employs 15 - ' PP people ( furniture , printers , Acufab , Johnny ' s Wholesale type ) . Krys ✓ eferred Members to Article IV , Section ln , p . 4 . Peter referred to Article II , Section 8 , p . 3 , and read the three conditions to Members . Dave asked for more input for 83 , He wandered if B was too bread and Gerri said it was never intended to be that broad and that was why there were so many grey areas - - the o verlapping . Budd said that if 82 was changed that Auble would come under B3 ( depending upon how the project unfolds , might have more intensity than appropriate and would settle problem Members are having with it ) . Krys said one of the big differences between Si and Bi were the hours of operation . ( She raised the issue of the peoples ' reaction to what the Members do in making good planning sense ) . Discussion followed an defining light ler TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 P LANNING BOARD FEBRUARY 21 , 1994 industry , camps , etc . Members continued discussing parts of 32 that could conceivably be used in 33 . They discussed size , structure , definition of light industry , current ordinance as opposed to proposed B3 , etc . Cerri read from Local Law passed May 4 , 1992 ( Dave noted B2 was approved to be all things to all people - - g arages , vehicles , boat sales , outdoor amusements , i . e . , intended for special permit from aspect of 82 ) . His concept of B3 would be more like a medium industry rather than heavy industry . Krys felt a 33 district was needed that concentrated on commercial ✓ ather than industrial uses that take place at other times of the day ( Her point was to take hotels / motels and bars and separate them from the industrials ) . Peter thought they were approaching the issue in the wrong way - - that it might be effective by defining B1 in a restrictive fashion and to use it as a protective buffer , then lump the B2 district to be everything e lse . Dave wondered it you make B2 everything else ( when you designate certain geographical areas as B1 , B2 ) you may find some u ses may supercede the type of usage you want to have in an area you might want to foster , to create the kind of community hub that you have in mind . You may want to have a B2 that ' s more ✓ etail oriented - - things you ' d like to see around the core of the village - - and make the B3 everything else . Peter said e stablishing the B1 buffer zone , everything else becomes B2 ( then you get Wal -Mart next to a furniture manufacturer , rather than Wal - Mart next to K - Mart , etc . ) . Given that perhaps they should be starting a commercial from the industrial , rather than sorting between types of commercial . Krys mentioned clustering some of the retails . Dave proposed 32 consist of : retails , business o ffice , professional office , restaurant , banking / monetary institution , hotel / motel ( people oriented types ) . This allows the Town Board to pick some logical places to put the above . ( Mike Staiac said these business people don ' t want the main drag - - they want to be off the main track . Dave said if that ' s our inclination , we ' re substantially changing 32 ) . In closing , Dave announced Mr . King would be the guest at the February 29 , 1494 meeting and would speak on tourism . The meeting adjourned at 8 : 45 PH . Respectfully submitted , Lynn Johnson