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TOWN OF ULYSSES
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
TOWN HALL •
OCTOBER 4 , 1993
P RESENT : CHAIRMAN DAVID TYLER ; MEMBERS : KRYS CAIL , GERRI KEIL ,
DAN SMITH , BUDD STOVER ; SECRETARY : ROXANNE SMITH
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 : 35 PM . The
minutes from September 20 , 1993 were reviewed . A change was made
to the first page , fourth paragraph , third sentence . " Krys indica -
t ed . . . " has been changed to " Krys wondered if comprehensive plans
are required to discuss abutting municipalities . " Dan made a motion
t o approve the minutes , Krys seconded . The minutes were approved
u nanimously .
The Chairman asked for the Members ' thoughts / reactions to the
previously held joint meeting with the Village Planning Board . Dan
✓ esponded that he thinks the Village ' s Planning Board is willing to
work with the Town Planning Board . David proposed that a letter
be drafted by Roxanne to the Chairman of the Village ' s Planning
Board requesting that they go to their Village Board and seek a
d irective enabling the two Planning Boards and the Town ' s Master
P lan Committee to work together on the Town ' s Master Plan . It was
decided that copies of the letter would be sent to the Town of
U lysses ' s Board and to the Village of Trumansburg ' s Board also .
K rys made the motion for the above ; Gerri seconded . The motion
passed unanimously .
Continuing with the discussion on the joint meeting , Gerri
remarked that she had gotten the impression that in discussing the
future of the Village the Planning Board had written off the Village
as an economic center . They were recognizing the realities of the
limitations they have ; Rt . 96 is hemmed in on one side by Residen -
t ial and the other by the creek said David . Addressing the older
buildings , Dan commented that a fire in the restaurant could destroy
o ne whole strip and the same could happen in the strip that contains
t he Rongovian Embassy and Camel ' s . When Zifchock re - built by putting
in the laundry mat there was a reduction of 75 % in square footage of
available space from the previous building . The Auble project has
much better potential for a larger retail business . If the market
were there it could be a pretty nice development said David . Krys
stated that she thinks it is a priority for the Village to encourage
t he businesses that could utilize their older structures ; the small
shops are all over Ithaca and it works . They were really hitting on
some very significant things , for example , retaining the quaintness
o f our Village . The new sign at Barry ' s Restaurant really sticks out
and it probably lights up at night . Something like that can quickly
destroy that community look said Gerri . The Village has a pretty
good tax base in terms of Residential . The Town ' s is eroding , which
is consistent with the economy stated David .
David brought to the Members attention a one day seminar being
given by the State ' s Bar Association titled " Planning Board and Land
III Use Control " . The cost is $ 175 . 00 , and it is being held in Rochester ,
O ctober 15 , 1993 . It ' s an excellent one day course dealing with the
n uts and bolts , it ' s not technical . David has attended it in the past ,
h e said . The Members were interested but due to the proximity of
t he date were unable to take advantage of it . David said that often
these seminars generate tapes , and perhaps he could get a copy . The
Members agreed that that would be ideal .
The Chairman stated that there were two possible directions
t o take regarding their meeting agendas . The first would be to
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continue with the discussion of the several levels of Residential .
The other option would be to put that on hold and to join forces
with the Master Plan Committee . He inquired after the Members opin -
ions , leading into a discussion of what the Master Plan Committee
was up to . The Committee will provide a road map for zoning change .
The development district is a pretty limited tool . I ' d rather act
t han re - act said David . As a part of their Master Plan the Town of
Ithaca included a separate section of suggestions for zoning changes
said Krys . We need to get some framework in place . If we get some
samples of zoning ordinances we could learn a lot of what not to do
said David . Referring to the minutes of July 12 , 1993 , the Members
decided to outline what the breakdown of Residential would be . In
Residential the topic of the duplex came up . The duplex is very
different from an accessory apartment . If it is owner occupied quad
you can get a lender ' s mortgage ; if not , then it is a much more
expensive proposition ( commercial lending ) . The duplex / non - owner
o ccupied in our area is unusual said David .
If we try to encourage Agriculture , this community isn ' t
wealthy enough to buy development rights . There may be some merit
to giving a tax incentive to the farmer however , said David . You
won ' t be able to attract Agriculture to this Town due to the soil
t ype , the yield potential , drainage and the taxes . There is no com -
parison to Cayuga County ( it ' s so much better there ) , said Dan .
The outline for Residential is as follows :
Rla - up to 2 acres ( single family plus mother - in - law
auxiliary apartment )
Rlb - 2 plus acres ( single family plus mother - in - law
auxiliary apartment )
R2 - 4 families or less
R3 - more than 4 families
A quick outline for Business is as follows :
B 1 -- user friendly - commercial
B 2 - Have ( Aubles )
B 3 - Balance of present business district
The cost of the property in a 83 zone may be prohibitive to a
business that needs a large amount of space said Krys . This was
in response to Gerri. ' s question of where the American Legion fits in .
This may also apply to a log home manufacturer said Krys .
It was decided that in the description they would spend time
defining family day care , group home , churches , nursery schools and
allowable use . The next meeting will be spent addressing Residential
in detail .
Budd made a motion to adjourn and Ge .r. ri. seconded . The meeting
adjourned at 9 : 05 PM .