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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-08-16 - PB V ' TOWN OF ULYSSES P LANNING BOARD MEETING TOWN HALL AUGUST 16 , 1993 P resent : Chairman David Tyler ; Members : Budd Stover , Krys Call ; Zoning Officer : Alex Rachun ; Secretary : Roxanne Smith The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 : 35 PM . The Members rewiewed the minutes from July 26 , 1993 . On page 2 , at the end of the first paragraph " Later comments by Board Members stated that they had been led to believe by Pleasant Grove that t hey were able to move the project along only with Health Depart - ment septic approval " was added . On the last page , last paragraph hyphens were added to where - with - all . The minutes could not be approved because a quorum was not present . Alex Rachun arrived at 7 : 40 PM . He verified that he was not aware of Pleasant Grove having any problems with the Health De - partment . At this point the Members decided that they must have ✓ eceived that information directly from Jim Gulledge . The Members decided to cancel the August 30th meeting . The meeting has been re - scheduled to September 20 , 1993 at 7 : 30 PM at the Town Hall . At some point , probably on a Thursday , there will be a joint meeting with the Village Planning Board . David ✓ equested that each Town Board Member receive a copy of the G eneral Development Plan for the Village of Trumansburg ( before t he joint meeting ) to peruse . The Members related their discussion with Pleasant Grove member , Terry Forbes , to Alex Rachun . They had asked Mr . Forbes why he thought their location would be good for the B2 Zone . His ✓ esponse basically was because they already own the land and t he view is terrific . The Members advised Mr . Forbes that if he were to make an application it should be for the larger area , not just his property . This way there will be input from neighbors , it will make them get out and do a little legwork said Budd . The Chairman then requested that the Members decide on an agenda for the joint meeting with the Village . Budd said he • would like to know what the status of the Village ' s water system is regarding its ' capacities , maintenance and whether it will be u pdated . Krys stated that she is aware of new regulations coming in ( from the annual County report ) and would like to know what the e ffects of that on what currently exists will be . David suggested one way to lead into this discussion with t he Village would be to share with them the ideas of the Master P lan Committee . What makes sense for the future of the Village and Town would be to extend water and sewer out to Halsey House and Auble ' s the other way said David . It ' s an economic issue u pdating the system . There will need to be a large amount of capitol expenditures . It would be a good idea to ask the Village what they would like to see the Town do said David . Krys said that there is one designated industrial area in t he Village . It is near the old Agway . Most of that area is owned by Bower and the Church of Assembly of God who are not pro growth said Alex . The tanks look out of place . It is not a logical place for industrial said David . I SI TOWN OF ULYSSES 2 PLANNING BOARD MEETING AUGUST 16 , 1993 The Village has been using their water / sewer as a growth t ool / zoning tool said Alex . The Town will be forced to seek o ther sources creating a competing development area which could be very detrimental to the Village said David . We would like to strengthen the Village as a center . Krys said it would be a good idea to look at this purely as an economic issue ( not as a zoning issue ) . We need hard data on how long the equip - ment is going to last , what will be the cost to replace it and w hether it has grandfather aspects in the regulatory system . Peter Meskij. J. is the trustee in charge of the water and sewer said Alex . They just spent $ 300 , 000 . 00 upgrading the sewer t reatment system . The water system is antiquated . It has as - testes in the system , old lines , breaks in the system in winter . They certainly could use e rate and e half said Alex . Where e ver the B2 goes it will hare to have water and sewer to be e ffective said David . One thing for the future would be to invite the people from Holton Point ( Southern Cayuga Municipal Water System ) to come and give us e presentation said Krys . The southern part of the Town could be serviced . When water comes in it brings in employment , tourism , etc . e veryone benifits said Alex . The village as the center will fail without encouragement ; even the things people fear may be helpful said David . Few downtowns are as dead as were is on a S unday . We have the resources but few places to stay and no shopping said Alex . Development needs to be thematic . Owego is a goad example said Krys . Mainstay shopping is not supported said Alex . People ( frequently because of their employment ) n eed to shop in the evening . They need to feel safe . Malls are eeenendating in this way said Krys . At this point the Chairman turned the discussion to the breakdown of the Residential Zoning . R1 - up to 2 acres R2 - 2 acres plus R3 - multi - family Krys wondered how to define the area needed Inc the Multi - family designation . Do you define it by unit ; will there be set backs between the units ? It ' s a lot less expensive to go with t ownhouses or rowhouses she said . We ' re talking about size of lot also . A we to make a lot of money would be to have what t hey have out in Enfield . It ' s very crowded , yet it does not broaden the tax base . Are we looking at a large building with several units in it that might be closer to the Village with water and sewer lines ? ( Urban ) In which case the requirement for e lot of land may not make sense . You can have an R31 and an R32 . Aubles would be a logical place for more intense use said David . Another thing to think about is manufactured h ousing , it doesn ' t add much to the tax base said Kays . A per - feet example would be what Bill Holtkamp wants to put on his property said Alex . He wants to put 4 to I mods in currently . The Inn will be a barn to house equipment and the rest of the land will be for the mwdulars . He could rent them to students from September to May , and then rent them weekly during the summer and do quite nicely said David . My thought is to look at t he subdivision thing and write the Multi - family such that it does in fact apply to multi - dwellings on impact parcels said Krys . If they are indeed townhouses then each wall becomes a property line said Alex . TOWN OF ULYSSES 3 P LANNING BOARD MEETING AUGUST 16 , 1993 Discussion ensued concerning the selling off of avail - able frontage land in the Town with little or no regulation . One of the problems with doing this is that all the land be - h ind the frontage is then limited for its potential use ( land locked ) . Access roads need to be put in said Krys . Private roads under the Martin Act are a problem which then can become a problem for the Town said David . You can petition to make a private drive a public road than the Town eventually has to maintain it regardless said Days . Older people don ' t think on d own the line as it won ' t be their problem she said . Getting back to the Multi - family housing it was agreed that a detailed look needed to be taken . Should a per unit set back be required , should there be some sort of required space sur - rounding a unit and also a limit to how many are attached to - gether said Krys . Rrs made the motion to adjourn and Budd seconded it . The meeting adjourned at 9 : 15 PM .