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MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING
TOWN HALL
MARCH 30 , 1993
7 : 00 P . M .
P resent : Chairman Gary Myers ; Members : Judy Cone , David
Tyler , Carl Mann Jr . : Ruth Kahn , Joanne Molino and
D avid Laurie . Zoning / Building Officer : Alex Rachun ;
S ecretary : Roxanne Smith
Audience : Gerri Keil and Budd Stover
G ary called the meeting to order at 7 : 15 P . M . Ti : i. eps
are a good rough draft , though there are lots of errors . Through
conversations with Ben Curtis , Alex Rachun and Catherine Stover
h e discovered that changes are being made , roads are being added .
H e mentioned that the Committee would like to have . input on the
changes . Many inequities will be cleared up when everyone is
clear on the definitions being used . Alex and Gary were able
t o key on two ; Residential and Rural / Residential . Rural / Res -
idential appears to be five acres or more with a house on it .
Anything under five would be Residential . Gary stated the
largest inequity was that the Rural / Residential was designated
yellow ( by the Town ) . It would be a better graphic representa -
tion if the Rural / Residential were the same color as the Agri -
cultural /Rural . Those areas would then stand out primarily as
Agricultural land with a small house on it . That one change
in the color could go a long way in fixing a lot of the problems .
There wouldn ' t appear to be as much Residential use as the map
currently shows . If we know areas that are Residential and
are five acres we certainly would indicate so .
J udy Cone said the only other area that stood out to her
w as Steve Weaver ' s 28 acres of Commercial . All of it has been
designated Commercial due to the Mobil Station that takes up a -
bout 1 acre of use .
D avid Tyler asked about woodlands . How would they be treat -
e d ? Currently they could be considered Vacant . At the last
meeting members interpreted Vacant to mean areas that the Town
d idn ' t have information on . After talking to Alex , Gary says they
n ow are parcels of land someone owns but are inactive and have
been overgrown for say ten years and it has reverted . The term
✓ acant may be inaccurate .
D avid Laurie questioned whether there was any designation
o n the map for Wetlands . Gary said until an area has actual -
ly been tested it won ' t be indicated as such . An individual
could purchase land and never realize that it has Wetlands until
t hey desire to build and are told they can ' t , that it has to
be tested . The DEC designates very large areas by aerial pic -
t ures and soil samples . David Laurie lives in Rhode Island
a good part of the year . There , Wetlands are considered an
integral part in how the planning of towns take place . He thinks
t hat it would be of special interest in our Town also . Gary
said unless it ' s already been designated ( large portions ) he does
n ot know where the money would come from to do that . Judy said
t he aerial maps that indicate the Wetlands should provide the
designation on these maps . Alex said that the Town has two Wet -
land areas designated by the DEC . There are two agencies that
oversee the Wetlands ( one Federal , the other State ) . The Army
Corp of Engineers at the Federal level go by soil type and
permeability . The State level is just DEC . David Tyler said the
Feds scrutinize much closer than the DEC . If they suspect land
is Wetlands than it ' s up to the owner to pay for all the testing .
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The discussion then centered on the quadrangle map pro -
✓ ided . It was decided for the next meeting that the Committee
would have bJack and white copies of the four quadrants . ( Carl
said he would be able to make copies . ) The Committee will
break down into four groups , each taking one of the quadrants .
Through the course of the work session the groups would ro -
t ate until everyone had had an opportunity for input on each
q uadrant . The Committee wouldn ' t necessarily have to use the
same colors the County chose , they could use various high -
lighters and then border with red marker . ( Gary would provide
t he markers . ) The definitions used may need to be broken
d own further .
Alex mentioned that the Planning Board is having dif -
ficulty with the existing Zoning Ordinance . The Committee
n eeds to arrive at some sort of framework that they can use .
d erri concurred as there is a lot of pressure on them cur -
✓ ently . She would like to can some sort of list with pro -
jections on the growth for the Town .
David Tyler shared the dilemma of the Pleasant Grove area
that the Town wants them to designate as a hi . It in south of
t he hamlet of Jacksonville . Alex indicated that it is almost
in the center of the Town of Ulysses . It is right on Rt . 90
stated Gnarl . The Planning Board has become concerned that
this could be considered ; trip zoning . Alex said teeheerviale
h as one commercial property that is viable . The rest is owned
by Mobil , The variety stores are outside of the Commercial
zone . tri. .ry said that when he thinks of strip zoning he thinks
o f every piece of property having a curb cut . with that kind
of development there can be a lot of traffic problems . if he
thinks about a Hub ( a term really never defined ) he thinks one
curb cut , less traffic . Alex said a Hub for the Town of Ulysses
could easily be four , 3 , 000 square foot buildings offering a
mix of office / retail with one curb cut and contained parking .
David Tyler said that the Planning Board feels the zones
are too limited . They win work up the categories for the
Committee to plot -
We have sufficient commercial space designated to take
care of what our actual needs are , however nobody is building
o n it ,•. They want it someplace else stated Judy . Economically
t hey may not be able to afford it . The Comprehensive Plan can
indicate options where these possible zones could go so that
the Panning Board can re - zone it ( because the guidelines have
been met ) and they won ' t get into trouble said Gary . There is
the possibility of reverse zoning if areas aren ' t being used
for what they ' re zoned for said David Tyler .
Cary indicated that the Committee should have a strategy .
The members decided that a mission statement was in order . The
goal of the Master Plan Committee is to prepare for the future
by ; 1 . Maintaining the rural character of the Town
. Respect cur resources
3 . Provide for balanced growth in the Town of Ulysses
( as opposed to the Community )
Alex said there has been a very steady growth of houses
since he ' s been here ( about I8 - 0 new homes are started a year ) .
The school population has increased . Ruth indicated it is im -
portant to provide a healthy economy as the population of high
school graduates and the 25 - 34 age group are declining . They
are going elsewhere as there isn ' t any opportunity here for them .
Alex said that a possible way to plan for the economy is to
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plant the seed in the Town Board ' s mind to start orchestra -
ting getting the lake property back into the Trumansburg
school district . The whole lake area in the Town of Ulysses
belongs to Ithaca . The Town has never fought it .
The next Master Plan Committee Meeting will be April
611993 at 7 : 00 P . M . at the Town Hall .
Th _:: : ., ceting adjourned at 9 : 10 P . M .